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Capitulo 008: Femme Tech · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies of Myth and Bullshit, a radio
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Speaker 1: phonic novella. Local Radio hosted by Malamunos and Hello lookas
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Speaker 1: and welcome back to local Radio. Local Radio is hosted
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Speaker 1: by your local to Malamunos and I'm disa fem and
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Speaker 1: as you all know, during Brown Girl Hour, we make
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Speaker 1: space for the exploration and celebration of the experiences, brilliance, creativity,
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Speaker 1: and legacies of fems and women of color. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in to another cap of Brown
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Speaker 1: Girl Hour in this capital, We're gonna be talking about
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Speaker 1: fem tech and what that means. Um. We want to
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Speaker 1: explore the ways women and fems of color have created
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Speaker 1: technology in accessible ways. We all know that a lot
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Speaker 1: of restrictions have been placed on our learning and education historically,
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Speaker 1: and in so many ways, our brilliance is resurrected and
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Speaker 1: manifested in these like techno historical ways. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: And this the idea for fem tech. For this is
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Speaker 1: something that we've been talking about for a while. We've
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Speaker 1: been letting it brew, we've been sitting on it, we've
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Speaker 1: been doing our research to really cultivate this idea and
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Speaker 1: our fem tech content is not only going to be
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Speaker 1: limited to this capito correct. And it's also really hard
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Speaker 1: because I think Mala and I are both really impatient people,
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Speaker 1: Like once we have an idea, we really want to
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Speaker 1: put it out there. But we have been, like Mali said,
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Speaker 1: kind of like letting this idea of like what fem
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Speaker 1: tech is, let it, letting it culminate in our brains.
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Speaker 1: And like we've been now we've been seeing everywhere, and
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Speaker 1: we've been seeing like inspiration everywhere. So I'm really excited
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Speaker 1: to really unveil like all these different ideas in this
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Speaker 1: cup too and share with y'all. Um. I think like
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Speaker 1: first and foremost, like we can talk about really like
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Speaker 1: not maybe not very subtle them tech um or like
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Speaker 1: maybe our first intro to some type of like stem
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Speaker 1: as women as young girls has been like through cooking,
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Speaker 1: through sewing. Um. Mala, for you, like, did you, first
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Speaker 1: of all do you like to cook? I do like
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Speaker 1: to cook. I enjoy cooking, and my grandmother is and
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Speaker 1: my grandfather, both of them they are the cooks in
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Speaker 1: the family. And as we all know, cooking is very
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Speaker 1: much a science. Yes, that must be really that must
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Speaker 1: be a really interesting fusion because as I remember, your
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Speaker 1: grandpa is Puerto Rican. Yeah, he's from Puerto Rico and
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Speaker 1: so and my grandmother is from Jalisco, Mexico. So the
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Speaker 1: cooking that they do is very different. Yeah, that must
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Speaker 1: be delicious. It is delicious. There's always something good to
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Speaker 1: eat always in Peru also, and yeah, so do you like,
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Speaker 1: do you have a dish that you like to cook
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Speaker 1: or that you remember learning as a young girl. Well,
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Speaker 1: something that my grandmother taught me how to make um
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Speaker 1: is themalist because she makes them quite often, and there's
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Speaker 1: definitely a science behind making whatever kind of them are making.
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Speaker 1: So I think that was one intro and another intro
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Speaker 1: to kind of like fashion. But even like I would say,
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Speaker 1: like it's I feel like there's a lot of engineering
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Speaker 1: that goes into fashion and the construction of clothes. Absolutely
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Speaker 1: there's a pattern, it's like so scientific or scientific undeniable.
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Speaker 1: And my grandmother and we'll because we're definitely descended from
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Speaker 1: like my grandmother and my great grandmother worked in sweatshops
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Speaker 1: in l A and they sewed in factories. So sewing
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Speaker 1: and pattern making and all of that stuff has always
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Speaker 1: been a deal in my family. And so my grandmother,
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Speaker 1: like she made her own wedding dress. She would make
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Speaker 1: all of my mom and her siblings their clothes. And
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Speaker 1: my mother is of professional flamenco dancer, but she makes
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Speaker 1: her own costumes, you know. So I've always been around
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Speaker 1: the sewing machine and sewing and my dad's mom when
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Speaker 1: whenever she had a new grandchild coming she would um quilt.
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Speaker 1: She would make a new quilt right for the new babies.
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Speaker 1: So on either side of the family, you saw those
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Speaker 1: very like traditional firm methods of creating, cooking, sewing, pattern making.
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Speaker 1: And it's something that I saw a lot growing up. Yeah. Interesting, Um,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I I don't really have that kind
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Speaker 1: of like memory. First of all, because my mom hates
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Speaker 1: to sew. She still hates to cook, like she won't
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Speaker 1: admit it, but she hates to cook. She like her
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Speaker 1: and that's cool. Like she didn't like it, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to. And sewing also, so I feel
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Speaker 1: like I don't really have that exp from my mom.
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Speaker 1: But for for all the other women in my life
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Speaker 1: growing up, like everybody had like their own little like
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Speaker 1: niche like what they were really good at. Like one
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Speaker 1: day I was really good at cooking, the other one
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Speaker 1: was really good at sewing and she would like make dresses.
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Speaker 1: And I know for my mom, her Thea and Machinko
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Speaker 1: would make her dresses all the time, like a new
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Speaker 1: dress every week, you know, because that was like her
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Speaker 1: her little baby um. And on my dad's side, same thing,
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Speaker 1: Like everybody was good at something. I think my lad
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Speaker 1: design hats at the point, like in Fidu, she was
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Speaker 1: like designing hats like millin Yeah, and then my Thea,
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Speaker 1: like she when she moved here from Fidu when they immigrated,
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Speaker 1: she was also working in a factory here in downtown
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Speaker 1: l A. And she kind of did like the whole
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Speaker 1: fake it till you make a thing, like I think
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Speaker 1: that her Her boss was like this Armenian man and
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Speaker 1: he like saw or she was like always like trying
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Speaker 1: to do more. So he saw something in her, so
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Speaker 1: he started like saying, like can you do this? And
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Speaker 1: she'd be like yeah, but she had no idea, but
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Speaker 1: she would literally create it and she would learn and
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Speaker 1: she would force herself to like learn these different patterns
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Speaker 1: and she became really successful and like had like a
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Speaker 1: business in Mexico and Fidu and like was just like
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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. You know, so I think, like we have
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Speaker 1: models in our families, then maybe we don't necessarily see
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Speaker 1: them as like these like stem check like brilliant creators,
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Speaker 1: but they really are are um you know, and what
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Speaker 1: they're what they're expressing and the sewing or the weaving,
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Speaker 1: um printmaking, pattern making, dyeing cloth, all that stuff is
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Speaker 1: what has been historically for centuries practice as a means
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Speaker 1: of surviving and creating. But also a lot of our
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Speaker 1: ancestors are fem ancestors have very much been limited right
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Speaker 1: to only utilizing certain forms of knowledge and production that
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Speaker 1: are accessible to them because different allowed to go to school.
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Speaker 1: What are you where are you channeling your genius? Exactly?
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Speaker 1: I know you hearing you say that, Like thinking of
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Speaker 1: our fem ance history, Like I'm thinking about likes and
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Speaker 1: Vinas and fidu and like how like dies created, like
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Speaker 1: for like Yama and like alpaca, like you know, like
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Speaker 1: the wool, like how it's like died and how it's
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Speaker 1: like an actual science. And when I was in like
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Speaker 1: we um, like someone did a demonstration about I was
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Speaker 1: at a a cooperative type of thing and um it
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Speaker 1: was like run by a family, like like a few
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Speaker 1: different families, and they were like showing us how they
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Speaker 1: like take natural colors and like diet. You know, so
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Speaker 1: hearing you say that reminded me of that trip um
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Speaker 1: I know that you actually have and like a really
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Speaker 1: brilliant example about sewing and weaving, tell us about it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: absolutely so. Um. What we wanted to do with this,
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Speaker 1: right is talk about how women women of color, indigenous women,
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Speaker 1: indigenous fems have been participating in technology and innovation for centuries, right,
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Speaker 1: Like we've been creating and our ancestors have been creating
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Speaker 1: for centuries. But quite often what the production and the
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Speaker 1: and the inventions made by indigenous women, by black women,
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Speaker 1: by brown women, by fems are often undervalued and considered
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Speaker 1: either frivolous, not that intricate, not that innovative. They're they're
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Speaker 1: completely undervalued because of who creates these products, and because
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Speaker 1: they're not their utility is not recognized. Right. So we
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Speaker 1: saw a contemporary example of very ancient fem knowledge now
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Speaker 1: being utilized like in biotech. Yes, tell us, yes so
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Speaker 1: we I bet a bunch of people have seen this.
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Speaker 1: But there was an article that made its rounds in
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Speaker 1: print publications and RESCLA did one and Remescla did an
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Speaker 1: article about Eyemata women from Bolivia, indigenous women who were
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Speaker 1: using their very traditional weaving techniques and weaving patterns to
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Speaker 1: create heart implants for children with heart defects. So I
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Speaker 1: guess there was some biotech company that decided to take
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Speaker 1: on these Amata women as employees. And they're really they're
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Speaker 1: like in laboratories weaving the actual physical, little tiny heart
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Speaker 1: implants by hand, right, because based on the research that
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Speaker 1: I've seen and based on the journalism around these women,
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Speaker 1: the type of sewing, the type of intricate work that
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Speaker 1: goes into a heart implant is even more intricate than
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Speaker 1: machines can accomplish, right, So they needed something so technical
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Speaker 1: that machines could not you know, performance, So they needed
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Speaker 1: to go and reach into a very like old like
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Speaker 1: pool of knowledge. So you have these indigenous women literally
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Speaker 1: saving lives and doing so in a biotech yeah, which
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Speaker 1: I think is awesome. Yeah, And I like how you
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Speaker 1: mentioned where you touched the on the fact that a
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Speaker 1: lot of these these knowledges are undervalued, right, and because
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Speaker 1: of who's creating them and who's producing them, it's like
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Speaker 1: not seen as important, it's not like scientific, it's not genius.
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Speaker 1: Not genius. Yes, and if we if anything with our
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Speaker 1: fem tech theme and content, we what we want to
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Speaker 1: establish is that women of color our geniuses are and
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Speaker 1: have been geniuses for many centuries. And I think also
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Speaker 1: like we bring our community with us, you know, like
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Speaker 1: I don't see that from white men, and I don't
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Speaker 1: see that from like white women, like I see like
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Speaker 1: them like what is that word like nepotism, Like I
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Speaker 1: see that kind of like unfair ship where it's like
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Speaker 1: they the only reason they get ahead is because they
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Speaker 1: know people, not because they're actual genius. Lies where they
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Speaker 1: have the funds their idea exactly, but like us, like no,
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Speaker 1: we will bring our people with us. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like it's like almost commonplace now, Like every other day
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Speaker 1: you hear some like some stories, some you know, human
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Speaker 1: interest piece about oh, such and such third world child
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Speaker 1: learned how to create a helicopter out of cardboard, or
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Speaker 1: you know like such and such individual in in an
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Speaker 1: oppressed situation created like um, you know, like some crazy
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Speaker 1: invention where they could give clean water to their whole village,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you see these examples,
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Speaker 1: A lot of young people young people of color, marginalized people,
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Speaker 1: black and brown people, Indigenous people who use like the
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Speaker 1: little resources that they have to do what you're talking
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Speaker 1: about exactly, uplift the community. You tech right in a
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Speaker 1: third world contest to uplift their community. This is a
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Speaker 1: really good transition into what I'm bringing today, which is UM.
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Speaker 1: This also did an article on her and her organization.
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Speaker 1: Her name is Marianna Costa and she's spewana Um. She
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Speaker 1: started an organization called Laboratoria and it began two and
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Speaker 1: a half years ago. And UM what they're trying to
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Speaker 1: do is give access to young women and teaching them
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Speaker 1: how to code. And what I really like about it
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Speaker 1: is that it's a six month training as opposed to
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Speaker 1: like two or three years, because that is so much
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Speaker 1: more accessible. Because I'm positive that these women while they're
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Speaker 1: training or they're in the six month course, they're also working. Obviously, yes,
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Speaker 1: so years it does not know that does not work,
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Speaker 1: like especially if you have a family support, especially if
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Speaker 1: you're think the one of the younger ones in the family,
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Speaker 1: so you're expected to work and give money back home
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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So these women are being taught
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Speaker 1: to code, and they're you know, doing the damn thing
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Speaker 1: because they're after they graduate, right like like like they
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Speaker 1: have a like higher rate, you know. And I want
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Speaker 1: to say that it's expanded to Mexico and chilem And
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Speaker 1: it's just really dope because she like had a vision
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Speaker 1: and she was like solid that the women in her
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Speaker 1: community just weren't given access to things, access to certain resources,
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Speaker 1: not because they couldn't, you know. So she like took
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Speaker 1: it upon herself to teach young women to code, and
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Speaker 1: she has like investors. Now she's just like really expanding
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Speaker 1: on what she's doing. And I think that's really wonderful. Yeah, No,
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Speaker 1: that's amazing, And I mean it's so true. It's like
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Speaker 1: the fact that women of color are underrepresented in science, technology, engineering, mathematics.
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Speaker 1: We believe, I believe it is completely antithetic a goal
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Speaker 1: to our history exactly. Look at like there's so many examples,
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Speaker 1: like look at our fen women ancestors, look at our
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Speaker 1: friend women ancestors. I mean when we talk about for example,
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Speaker 1: like if you want to talk about like Machupicchu or
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Speaker 1: like Aztec pyramids, right or Mayan pyramids, and you want
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Speaker 1: to talk about advanced societies and astronomy and all the
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Speaker 1: things that our people were practicing for centuries. I imagine
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Speaker 1: that our ancestors were living in a different sort of
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Speaker 1: historical context than we live in now, and that women
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Speaker 1: were able to participate in different levels of society in
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Speaker 1: ways that have been difficult for us to achieve today. So, like,
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Speaker 1: for example, I've seen a lot of conversations on Twitter
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Speaker 1: about how different minority groups will talk about, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's difficult to celebrate oh the first you know, African
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Speaker 1: Americans PhD In chemistry, or the first you know, Mexican
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Speaker 1: astronaut are the first such and such, you know, because
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Speaker 1: there's this assumption that our history has only been like
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Speaker 1: a few hundred years long, right, And so it's like, well, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that there were a ton of black astronomers
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Speaker 1: and you know, physicists before colonization and slavery, and there
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Speaker 1: were probably a ton of indigenous engineers, you know, and
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Speaker 1: scientists and librarians and all of these things before colonization.
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Speaker 1: We've been doing these things for a long time for centuries.
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Speaker 1: But post colonization, it's like we're starting from literally starting
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Speaker 1: from zero. That reminds me of that meme of it's
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Speaker 1: like me linking everything back to racism and colonization and
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Speaker 1: like that's literally, like I think about that all the time,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, literally, that is the rule of so
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Speaker 1: many things that have gone wrong. So because of that,
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Speaker 1: you know, like us who come from a long line
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Speaker 1: of geniuses. And I used that word intentionally, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not exaggerating when I say women of learn historically our geniuses,
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Speaker 1: you know, and I don't. I'm not going to use
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Speaker 1: a different word. That's the word. That's what we are.
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Speaker 1: So the fact that like we are, like fems are
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Speaker 1: more known for you know, beauty or cosmetology or nail
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Speaker 1: tech or you know, hair versus engineering, it's because that's
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Speaker 1: where we were allowed to channel our genius. Right that
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Speaker 1: reminds that's a really good um transition into our next topic.
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Speaker 1: We have so much to say about that, but before that,
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Speaker 1: I think we should go into a song break and
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Speaker 1: ship welcome back. We hope you enjoyed our song break
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Speaker 1: that was queen by Janelle Monet. UM. Moving forward, we
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the very accessible ways and how
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Speaker 1: fem tech has manifested in both of our lives. UM.
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Speaker 1: So we want to talk about like beauty and hair
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Speaker 1: and nails and all that kind of beautiful fem adornment. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think, like, like fem like there's so much from
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Speaker 1: phobia in and like that's why, like our fem tech
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Speaker 1: is undervalued, you know, because it's like not it's seen
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Speaker 1: as extra, it's frivolous, it's not necessary. It's in the way,
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Speaker 1: like the ship that people give me that I do
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Speaker 1: not ask for their opinion. They give me ship because
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Speaker 1: of my nails and their length. And I'm like, I
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Speaker 1: didn't ask you, and like I have been rocking and
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Speaker 1: curl like nails for years now, you know. And of
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Speaker 1: course I get my nails a break here and there.
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Speaker 1: But obviously if there are this length, like I can
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Speaker 1: get ship done. I can write a dissertation if I
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Speaker 1: wanted to, you know what I mean. I got through
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Speaker 1: my undergrad through them. I'm in my job, my big
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Speaker 1: girl job. Now I spend my monthly reports to my director. Yes,
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Speaker 1: you know, like they are not in the way. But
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Speaker 1: it's like, if you want to be quoted professional, you
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Speaker 1: can't have this kind of like long adornment, right, you
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Speaker 1: can't have your bold lipstick in a in a meeting
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Speaker 1: room with the executive director of or a funder of
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Speaker 1: your nonprofit. But watch me, I will you know, so
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Speaker 1: I think, like we just have so much to say
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Speaker 1: about like fem tech and like fem economics and like
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Speaker 1: them economy, you know, an entrepreneurship, and like especially being
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Speaker 1: from the hood or like living in the hood, your
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Speaker 1: family's from the hood. However like that may look for you. Um,
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Speaker 1: we can see like the way informal economy has manifested
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Speaker 1: and there's a market for like fem adornment, you know.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I mean it's so interesting because nothing
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Speaker 1: that women do that fems do is without some type
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Speaker 1: of a history or some type of a trigger, a reason,
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Speaker 1: a context and origin, you know, so like even just
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Speaker 1: you talking about nails, right, So why are we talking
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Speaker 1: about beauty? Well, because historically beauty is one of the
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Speaker 1: only accessible avenues for production, expression for careers that women
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Speaker 1: have had. So we jumped into it and have flourished.
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Speaker 1: And there's a science behind it, Like I'm telling me,
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Speaker 1: there's not a science between behind like getting the right
19:55
Speaker 1: length of your acrylic the shape that yes, you have
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Speaker 1: to know what you're doing. They're using tiny machines and
20:03
Speaker 1: drills and a lot of electronics that that that go
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Speaker 1: into it, depending on what kind of salon you're going too.
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Speaker 1: And like also if you think about like nail are
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Speaker 1: like where that originated from? Hello? Like no, not by
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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashi and Kylie Jenner. No, they did not originate
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Speaker 1: that ship no way. But um, like even that, like
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Speaker 1: the folks that can that can create that type of
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Speaker 1: art on a tiny little surface, you know, it's brilliant.
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Speaker 1: It's actually brilliant, and it's wearable. It has to be
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Speaker 1: somewhat durable, it has to be somewhat tough. Like there's
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Speaker 1: so many different elements that go into a set of
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Speaker 1: acrylic nails. Somebody told us actually shout out La la.
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Speaker 1: She told us about this like bougie nail salon that
20:48
Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you follow on Instagram, but I
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Speaker 1: will not name them. And she said she got her
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Speaker 1: nails down there, you know, paid the like expensive tag
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Speaker 1: basically the price for them, and within a couple of
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Speaker 1: days they all broke off, you know, and our twenty
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Speaker 1: dollar sets, Like how durable are they? You know? Very
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Speaker 1: extremely extremely yes? And actually speaking of now art, we
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Speaker 1: wanted to bring in some history is really important to
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Speaker 1: be intentional. So we were doing some research about nail
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Speaker 1: art and we knew that. You know, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of different types of people that that do nail art,
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Speaker 1: that participated in nail tech. Nowadays, there's even kind of
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Speaker 1: like nail art like reality shows. There's like conventions, there's conventions.
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Speaker 1: It's a big industry. It's used eight billion dollars. I
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Speaker 1: think we read yeah, but some it's an eight billion
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Speaker 1: dollar industry. I read this article on this website called
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Speaker 1: take part dot com and um, this writer named Celestwang
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Speaker 1: did a story about the fascinating story behind why so
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Speaker 1: many nail technicians are Vietnamese. Right, so we know a
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Speaker 1: lot of nail technicians, a lot of people that were
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Speaker 1: in nails are Vietnamese. Are so our Asians somehow? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: api and uh so Celeste Wong did a story about
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Speaker 1: how this actress, Tippy Hedren was involved in working with
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Speaker 1: communities of Vietnamese refugees in California and basically bringing skill
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Speaker 1: and job training um to the different like camps where
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Speaker 1: they were staying while they were transitioning right from Vietnam
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Speaker 1: to American life. And so they were in refugee camps
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Speaker 1: and something that the women took to was nail tech
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Speaker 1: and working in nails. And according to this article that
22:41
Speaker 1: we were reading um today the nail industry is worth
22:45
Speaker 1: about eight eight dollars and about eight percent of nail
22:49
Speaker 1: technicians in southern California are Vietnamese and across the US.
22:54
Speaker 1: So here you have this history where the beauty, the technology,
22:59
Speaker 1: the economy had. This had so much to do with
23:03
Speaker 1: women of color in a state of being refugees, yes,
23:06
Speaker 1: you know, and needing to survive exactly, like in a
23:09
Speaker 1: state of emergency. Let's type of brilliance, like that creativity
23:13
Speaker 1: had to come out like the ass that exactly, which
23:16
Speaker 1: is a lot of where economy comes from. Like there's
23:19
Speaker 1: a need, like you're surviving for your family, for yourself absolutely,
23:23
Speaker 1: and I think of all like in my neighborhood, for example,
23:27
Speaker 1: there's a lot of little salonasa, little beauty salons where
23:32
Speaker 1: it's all Latinas Latino women you know who either they
23:37
Speaker 1: run the space or they rent out booths to other
23:40
Speaker 1: Latinas are Latino X people to work. And it's all
23:44
Speaker 1: having to do with they're creating, they're providing a service,
23:47
Speaker 1: but they're also feeding their families and their communities, right,
23:50
Speaker 1: and it's all through beauty. And not only that, but
23:52
Speaker 1: it's like think about the community that's created in these
23:55
Speaker 1: like nail salons, beauty salons, Like it's cheese my hour
23:59
Speaker 1: and so many ways. Like and it's also like your
24:01
Speaker 1: venting session, like you tell them like about what's going
24:04
Speaker 1: on in your family, and like maybe they hook you
24:06
Speaker 1: up with somebody that they know because they know somebody
24:08
Speaker 1: that they know somebody you know. And it's like also
24:11
Speaker 1: another form of survival because more more than likely, like
24:14
Speaker 1: you live in the area where you get your hair done,
24:16
Speaker 1: you get your nails done. You know, I know that's
24:18
Speaker 1: true for me. Um. And there's also like the informal
24:21
Speaker 1: salons that exists, like in the garages and people's houses,
24:25
Speaker 1: renting a room maybe to cut someone's hair. Right. The
24:29
Speaker 1: gym that I go to, she like is creating because
24:31
Speaker 1: she's also a hairdresser and like this nutritionist and she's
24:34
Speaker 1: like now she they just moved locations and she has
24:37
Speaker 1: like a big room where she's going to start to
24:39
Speaker 1: do hair. Like she's like creating like something totally different
24:43
Speaker 1: and totally brand new. You know, we'll not brand new,
24:45
Speaker 1: but like in the sense of it's a gym and
24:47
Speaker 1: hair salon. I think that's pretty cool. That is some
24:50
Speaker 1: self care, self love right there. You know it really is. Yeah. Yeah,
24:54
Speaker 1: And I even wonder, you know, like how many because
24:57
Speaker 1: we can talk even about like feminists on a global
25:00
Speaker 1: scale and global economies, So there are so many layers
25:03
Speaker 1: to it, because like feminists is at once like constantly,
25:07
Speaker 1: constantly like consumed and ob justified and used for purposes
25:12
Speaker 1: that are not healthy for us, right like our images
25:16
Speaker 1: and our bodies and and and all of that are
25:19
Speaker 1: used a lot of times to oppress us. But when
25:23
Speaker 1: I think we take our feminists into our own hands
25:26
Speaker 1: and we're projecting it and utilizing it for our own purposes,
25:29
Speaker 1: that's a totally different scenario exactly. That's when when people
25:32
Speaker 1: want to say, like, oh, feminists, capitalists, it's so good.
25:35
Speaker 1: It's so that because like you're spending to get something done,
25:39
Speaker 1: you know, you're by your shopping at the Flora, Like
25:42
Speaker 1: what are you doing for the revolution? Like hold on,
25:45
Speaker 1: you know what at that minute? Wait a second? Um, Yeah,
25:51
Speaker 1: I think that's like a really really important part that
25:54
Speaker 1: you're touching on in terms of like fem identity and
25:56
Speaker 1: like once we're taking our identity into our own hands
25:59
Speaker 1: and like using however that like fem adoration, like adornment
26:03
Speaker 1: looks for you, and that type of fem worship for yourself,
26:06
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't have to be makeup, It doesn't have
26:08
Speaker 1: to be like this kind of that like everyone's adornmaant
26:12
Speaker 1: looks differently, right and like for us, like this is
26:15
Speaker 1: what it is, you know. And I'm even thinking, like
26:19
Speaker 1: how if we're talking about what are you doing for
26:21
Speaker 1: the revolution, how many who work in like a fem industry,
26:28
Speaker 1: who cut hair, who do nails, who do makeup? I
26:31
Speaker 1: wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars in remittances
26:35
Speaker 1: are sent abroad, are sent back home and are feeding
26:39
Speaker 1: families off of money that was made doing nails and hair.
26:43
Speaker 1: You know, I like, I wish we had a number.
26:44
Speaker 1: I wish we had thousands and thousands of dollars. Yes,
26:47
Speaker 1: money on in babysitting, yes, you know, money off of cooking.
26:53
Speaker 1: You know the types of technologies, the types of fields
26:57
Speaker 1: that were always relegated to and live it did too,
27:00
Speaker 1: But we're contributing and also owning it and then making
27:03
Speaker 1: it like you're you're you're making it your own business.
27:06
Speaker 1: You're becoming an entrepreneur entrepreneur, so that's you're like taking
27:09
Speaker 1: it into your own hands and you're like, this is
27:11
Speaker 1: what I'm good at, and then this is what I'm
27:13
Speaker 1: a genius at. Yes, so I'm going to make a
27:15
Speaker 1: business off of this, exactly. And one of the best
27:17
Speaker 1: examples of that is you tell us is Madam C. J. Walker. Yes,
27:23
Speaker 1: Madame c J. Walker, also known as Sarah breedlove Um.
27:28
Speaker 1: Madam c. J. Walker was her public name, her business
27:31
Speaker 1: name Madam I Love It, Madame diosm exactly. So she
27:37
Speaker 1: was an African American entrepreneur. She was a philanthropist, she
27:41
Speaker 1: was an activist, and she is known as the first
27:45
Speaker 1: female self made millionaire in America. Dope, Yeah, she did it.
27:50
Speaker 1: She created her empire and her millions off of beauty
27:54
Speaker 1: products for Black women. Right. She saw a need. She
27:58
Speaker 1: saw that there were not enough products specifically targeted towards
28:01
Speaker 1: Black women for their skincare, hair care, nail care needs.
28:05
Speaker 1: And she created products that were healthier than what was
28:09
Speaker 1: out there, that we're safer than what was out there. Definitely,
28:13
Speaker 1: there had to be chemistry involved, there had to be
28:15
Speaker 1: science involved, and the marketing and the entrepreneurship, you know,
28:19
Speaker 1: and so Madam C. J. Walker is just one of those,
28:21
Speaker 1: another a genius, you know that. I don't think it's
28:24
Speaker 1: celebrated enough because she was working in beauty and beauty
28:28
Speaker 1: for black women especially so especially it's maybe not something
28:31
Speaker 1: that everybody hears about or knows about or sees that. Yeah,
28:36
Speaker 1: sees it as like some type of tech like stem
28:40
Speaker 1: but literally like folks that create their own makeup, like genius,
28:44
Speaker 1: like women of color that do that, because there are
28:46
Speaker 1: a lot of like women of color and like black
28:48
Speaker 1: owns makeup brands and like actual genius, because there's a
28:53
Speaker 1: science behind it. It's not just some like let me
28:56
Speaker 1: put this in a really pretty package and sell it
28:58
Speaker 1: for thirty dollars or however much. You know, It's like
29:01
Speaker 1: there's actually a science beanted to get the right shade.
29:03
Speaker 1: And especially if you're working with our community, you know,
29:06
Speaker 1: like that my red isn't going to look good on
29:08
Speaker 1: everybody else, you know, but like working with all these
29:12
Speaker 1: different skin shades and like taking into it, taking into
29:14
Speaker 1: account that you want to be inclusive, you're serving like
29:17
Speaker 1: a very broad community. Like that's that's a science, like
29:20
Speaker 1: to find a read that somehow looks good on everyone,
29:23
Speaker 1: like how literal science, And I mean we can we
29:26
Speaker 1: can talk about fem tech and talk about social media,
29:29
Speaker 1: yes right, I mean we engage in tech every day,
29:33
Speaker 1: all the time, multiple types of tech on multiple platforms,
29:37
Speaker 1: multiple devices. I mean this podcast is fem tech because
29:43
Speaker 1: we have struggled, and we have we have really really
29:46
Speaker 1: had to learn how to use a lot of things
29:49
Speaker 1: just to create this podcast, you know, because not because
29:52
Speaker 1: we like I don't want to know about these things,
29:56
Speaker 1: but it's like they weren't taught to us or either
29:58
Speaker 1: we thought maybe it wasn't as important, or we're like
30:01
Speaker 1: we get frustrated. No one was patient with us to
30:04
Speaker 1: teach us how to fucking code, if you know what
30:06
Speaker 1: I mean. Like even creating on website has been difficult,
30:09
Speaker 1: and you and I have been like in the process
30:11
Speaker 1: of doing that for a few months now. We're working
30:13
Speaker 1: on you know, everything is for us has been like
30:17
Speaker 1: we're literally learning as we go as we go, and
30:19
Speaker 1: like I think not only this segment or just as
30:24
Speaker 1: as a whole, like the podcast is fem sex, but
30:26
Speaker 1: even like what you and I do on social media,
30:28
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's all fem tech. I mean engaging
30:32
Speaker 1: with your computer, engaging with your phone, engaging with the microphone,
30:37
Speaker 1: with the equipment, you know, with the recording software that
30:42
Speaker 1: we use. All of that is fem tech because we're
30:44
Speaker 1: using it for fem purposes exactly like we're doing it,
30:48
Speaker 1: so it's fem tech. And like that's my thing is,
30:51
Speaker 1: I don't care if white people or men find what
30:56
Speaker 1: I'm doing to be valuable or important. You're not the
30:59
Speaker 1: barometer for you. It's not for you. You don't decide
31:01
Speaker 1: what is useful and what is not. You don't decide
31:04
Speaker 1: what is brilliant and what is not a because you
31:06
Speaker 1: have trash taste and I don't trust it, number one,
31:10
Speaker 1: you know. So there's that a number two. We know
31:14
Speaker 1: that what we're creating is brilliant and it's interesting, absolutely,
31:19
Speaker 1: you know. And so we're gonna put ourselves in the
31:21
Speaker 1: in the in the tech category, right And that's new,
31:24
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's a new kind of thing
31:26
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about that maybe we didn't expect
31:30
Speaker 1: this podcast to turn to go on that route. But
31:32
Speaker 1: like the more, like we had said in the beginning,
31:34
Speaker 1: like the more that we've been thinking about, like what
31:37
Speaker 1: fem tech is like, the more it relates to so
31:40
Speaker 1: many things in our lives. Yeah, And I'm sure like
31:43
Speaker 1: as we continue to think about this topic, as we
31:46
Speaker 1: continue to move through life we hear about family histories,
31:51
Speaker 1: We're going to see more examples of a fem tech
31:54
Speaker 1: like in everyday life and in our upbringings and our
31:56
Speaker 1: family histories. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm interested to hear like or
32:00
Speaker 1: to see more. And I've been thinking about this a
32:03
Speaker 1: lot because i feel like I don't really have any
32:05
Speaker 1: type of knowledge about like my Mexican side, which is
32:08
Speaker 1: something so new for me because I grew up really
32:11
Speaker 1: close to my mom, so my my mom's family, so
32:13
Speaker 1: my Mexican side. But the more that I think about it,
32:16
Speaker 1: like my grandparents are both dead now, you know, and
32:20
Speaker 1: we don't have any type of like family history, any
32:22
Speaker 1: type of ancestry because my grandparents died where he was
32:26
Speaker 1: a baby, so and the more that I yeah, I
32:31
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I've been thinking about it a lot lately,
32:33
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like I don't have any
32:35
Speaker 1: history in that way, and that's kind of stressing me out.
32:37
Speaker 1: But with my dad's side, there's so much history because
32:39
Speaker 1: we're all here and we're all fucking really close, and
32:42
Speaker 1: it's annoying sometimes, but I know that there's so much
32:45
Speaker 1: like stem and tech in that side and my dad's side,
32:49
Speaker 1: and I'm really interested to like think about this more
32:52
Speaker 1: and developed the second before, I mean the other day, right,
32:54
Speaker 1: I'm like in my grandma's house and she I walking in.
33:00
Speaker 1: And my grandma, who's like eighty three years old, she's
33:03
Speaker 1: a little old lady. She's from Mexico, and when she
33:06
Speaker 1: came to the US, she was sixteen. And the first
33:09
Speaker 1: thing she did when she came here was working people's houses,
33:12
Speaker 1: you know, and she raised kids for white people and
33:16
Speaker 1: clean houses. And she went to night school and eventually
33:18
Speaker 1: she got her a A her associates degree, and she
33:22
Speaker 1: worked in accounting. She was an accountant. Grandma Natcha was
33:28
Speaker 1: an accountant for many years. And then she would sell
33:30
Speaker 1: like you know, like princess house, like crystal, So she
33:35
Speaker 1: was hustling. She was doing a lot of she would
33:37
Speaker 1: sell tupper wear, all kinds of stuff. But she has
33:39
Speaker 1: a very mathematical mind. The other day, I'm walking into
33:42
Speaker 1: the house and I see her at the table and
33:45
Speaker 1: she has all these papers spread out on the table,
33:47
Speaker 1: and I look and she is just adding up all
33:50
Speaker 1: these numbers and doing all these calculations. And she's like
33:53
Speaker 1: doing all this math, like big numbers, and I'm like, Grandma,
33:56
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And she's like, well, I don't
33:58
Speaker 1: have an adding machine, so I do it all in
34:00
Speaker 1: my god stop, Yeah she does so, like all of
34:04
Speaker 1: her bills, her taxes, everything, it's all with a pencil,
34:10
Speaker 1: just by hand. That's how it's been done. That's how
34:12
Speaker 1: it's been done. And so you have this woman who's
34:15
Speaker 1: just this tiny Mexican lady. She's great, who's awesome, and
34:19
Speaker 1: who has done so much in her life, and she
34:21
Speaker 1: is so good with numbers and just in her head.
34:24
Speaker 1: And a lot of us I feel like we were
34:26
Speaker 1: raised on calculators. Oh yeah, we haven't. We don't have
34:29
Speaker 1: that anymore. Yeah. For me, Like also, like math has
34:32
Speaker 1: been such so traumatic for me for many of us.
34:35
Speaker 1: Get me started, Oh my god, low key. I think
34:38
Speaker 1: the reason I picked my college majors because I didn't
34:40
Speaker 1: have to take math literally, which also stifled me in
34:43
Speaker 1: so many ways because I was like, I wanted to
34:46
Speaker 1: avoid a trauma, so then I went for something else
34:49
Speaker 1: and actually was really traumatic. And my college experience was
34:52
Speaker 1: sucking awful with the department I was in. But that's
34:55
Speaker 1: the story. But um yeah, so for me, like it's
34:59
Speaker 1: like so many of us, like young girls, especially of color,
35:02
Speaker 1: it's like we're taught that we're not good at math,
35:05
Speaker 1: Like girls are naturally not good at science. That's what
35:07
Speaker 1: we're told. Like girls are bad at science. We're better
35:10
Speaker 1: at the humanities, are better at reading and writing. So
35:13
Speaker 1: that's what that's the career that you should stick to.
35:15
Speaker 1: And a lot of times it's not just like necessarily
35:19
Speaker 1: the messages that are given to us, but like how
35:22
Speaker 1: are our math and science programs at our schools? You know,
35:25
Speaker 1: Like we were talking about this the other day. When
35:28
Speaker 1: we were first coming up with this idea. When I
35:30
Speaker 1: was in eighth grade, we had four math teachers because
35:34
Speaker 1: they just kept getting cycled out and they would quit
35:37
Speaker 1: and they would leave. Towards the end of my eighth
35:39
Speaker 1: grade year, rpe coach was the math teach. But that's
35:43
Speaker 1: because they just needed someone to watch it. Oh my god,
35:45
Speaker 1: what happened to me one time in high school the
35:48
Speaker 1: soccer coach became like the sub math teacher. She was
35:53
Speaker 1: teaching us, you know, and it's just like I know
35:56
Speaker 1: that that has an effect. Of course, that has a
35:59
Speaker 1: negative effect. I was most traumatized by math in high school.
36:04
Speaker 1: I was taking calculus and the teacher was this white
36:08
Speaker 1: guy I shall not speak his name, like he's horrible,
36:13
Speaker 1: and I just have so many memories of just sobbing
36:15
Speaker 1: like in his office like all the time. That was me.
36:18
Speaker 1: It was so my third year of high school, I
36:21
Speaker 1: had a nun, this wide nun teacher, and she literally
36:27
Speaker 1: failed so many people, like it became a thing where
36:30
Speaker 1: people were like petitioning to like remove her from the
36:32
Speaker 1: department or from what being a math teacher. And she
36:36
Speaker 1: was so mean, Like I would cry all the time.
36:39
Speaker 1: And I'm positive she knew that I was like a
36:40
Speaker 1: little queer. I'm sure of it. So you think that that,
36:45
Speaker 1: I think for sure. I mean my high school had
36:49
Speaker 1: four hundred people. It was small, it was sucking tiny.
36:52
Speaker 1: Everybody knew, like there weren't very many of us that
36:54
Speaker 1: were queer and young, you know, in high school. So
36:58
Speaker 1: I'm sure she knew. And yeah, math is traumatic. I
37:01
Speaker 1: would cry all the time, like I would like, yeah,
37:04
Speaker 1: I would hyperventily, like I would get anxiety going into
37:06
Speaker 1: her classroom. That's horrible. I knew I would fail her class.
37:09
Speaker 1: Like every time I took a test, like I was like,
37:11
Speaker 1: it does a matter what I do, I'm gonna fail.
37:13
Speaker 1: That was my mentality, you know. For mass it was
37:15
Speaker 1: really shitty. Um. Yeah, So I like hope that one
37:20
Speaker 1: day with all these brilliant women that are doing like
37:24
Speaker 1: the coding and like and they're doing it for young girls,
37:28
Speaker 1: Like I hope that one day young girls like feel
37:30
Speaker 1: like so empowered by STEM and also art. Yeah, you know,
37:35
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, I just thought of something. But you know,
37:39
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know how we hear how back
37:42
Speaker 1: in the day, like historically, like to prevent pregnancy, like
37:45
Speaker 1: women would just put like a little stone. Yes, you know,
37:48
Speaker 1: like I feel like that that is like reproductive tech
37:51
Speaker 1: like back in the day, Like that's just like ancient,
37:54
Speaker 1: which is also being usual. I can't say it's used
37:57
Speaker 1: for like birth control, but like also you see like
37:59
Speaker 1: this this um interest in like Yoni eggs just like
38:04
Speaker 1: healing crystals in general, I feel like they're like the
38:06
Speaker 1: conversation right now, which is really good for folks that
38:09
Speaker 1: are using it correctly. Um. But yeah, like a Yoni
38:12
Speaker 1: egg is like used to like strengthen the pelvic floor like,
38:16
Speaker 1: which is really interesting, and it's it's also like a
38:19
Speaker 1: quote ancient, you know, ancient, yeah, but still genius. Yes,
38:23
Speaker 1: And I don't know, there's just something about like I
38:27
Speaker 1: don't know why people hate like on nails so much,
38:29
Speaker 1: like on not long nails, because I cannot. When I'm
38:32
Speaker 1: wearing my acrylics. I feel like a fucking like bionic woman.
38:35
Speaker 1: I am the bad. I feel like an android. I
38:40
Speaker 1: feel like Cindy Mayweather, like, oh my god, we didn't like,
38:44
Speaker 1: we didn't really like talk about this too much. But
38:47
Speaker 1: I remember you sent me, like, I want to say,
38:51
Speaker 1: months ago before fem said, maybe even before this podcast
38:53
Speaker 1: was even an idea in our minds. But I remember
38:56
Speaker 1: you sent me something about a woman that like put
39:00
Speaker 1: her like metro card or something in her nail so
39:03
Speaker 1: she would just scan her nail right right, right right
39:07
Speaker 1: for like when she had to get on the metro
39:09
Speaker 1: or whatever. I saw it on Facebook somewhere floating around.
39:12
Speaker 1: But see, things like that were brilliant. Girls just come
39:15
Speaker 1: up with ship. But you know what a lot of times,
39:18
Speaker 1: when like women of color, especially when black women like
39:21
Speaker 1: innovate like that is considered like, oh, that's ghetto or
39:24
Speaker 1: that's ratchet, you know, like always it's in the negative.
39:28
Speaker 1: When no, it's innovative. That is so genius because if
39:31
Speaker 1: you think about like all the time you'd save, like
39:34
Speaker 1: say you have the big old purse, right, or you
39:36
Speaker 1: have something and you have to surge and whatever you're
39:38
Speaker 1: running late genius, it's in your nail. Like absolutely that
39:42
Speaker 1: literally at hand already. Absolutely, No, we innovate all the time,
39:45
Speaker 1: like just as women and like as fams, there's always innovation.
39:49
Speaker 1: There's always new ship, Like there's just everywhere there's brilliance.
39:54
Speaker 1: I also like create or invent. I don't want to
39:57
Speaker 1: say invent whatever. I find ways to make things that
40:01
Speaker 1: I can't do without my name with my nails happen.
40:03
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So it's like, yeah, I'm creating
40:07
Speaker 1: another form of doing something that don't tell me that
40:10
Speaker 1: I can think. That's where I feel like a bionic
40:12
Speaker 1: woman because I'm like the nail has now become like
40:16
Speaker 1: this functional like extension of my hand. Yeah it's fucking cool.
40:23
Speaker 1: It's oh my god, Yeah, it's really cool. Transformers like
40:27
Speaker 1: you know like fems like that's that's for me. I'm like,
40:31
Speaker 1: that's the ultimate transformer. The fem is a transformer like
40:35
Speaker 1: in real ways. Yes, I agree we are, and something
40:38
Speaker 1: that we haven't really talked about, which we're kind of
40:40
Speaker 1: coming towards the end, but you know, I guess we
40:44
Speaker 1: can kind of summarize some of our main points right
40:47
Speaker 1: of why we wanted to talk about fem tech, and
40:49
Speaker 1: this is going to be an ongoing conversation because we're
40:52
Speaker 1: going to present fem tech in a workshop as a
40:54
Speaker 1: workshop form right eventually, and we'll tell you more about
40:58
Speaker 1: the different events we have coming up it. What we
41:00
Speaker 1: want to relay in all of our conversations of fem
41:05
Speaker 1: tech is how historically women in fems and our tech
41:09
Speaker 1: and our innovations right have been channeled into areas that
41:13
Speaker 1: have been most accessible to us. For example, beauty, sewing, weaving,
41:18
Speaker 1: home economics. We don't even really touch on the brilliant
41:21
Speaker 1: of weaves and how that is actual skill in art.
41:24
Speaker 1: We can save that for the future before another time back, yeah,
41:27
Speaker 1: for sure. And then the other the other idea that
41:32
Speaker 1: we really want to push is that fem tech is
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Speaker 1: undervalued and has been for a long time, and one
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Speaker 1: of the reasons is due to what fem phobia fem
41:40
Speaker 1: phobia always in tech, fem phobia in general, in school,
41:45
Speaker 1: in life and education. Right, if a little girl has
41:49
Speaker 1: an idea, like an engineering idea and it involves baking,
41:53
Speaker 1: that might get shot down, right versus the little boy
41:56
Speaker 1: who wants to do something with cars that might be
41:59
Speaker 1: considered more engineering oriented or oriented, you know, um, and
42:04
Speaker 1: then them tech and economics like intermingled with entrepreneurship. Yeah, absolutely,
42:11
Speaker 1: there's I mean we touched a lot about that about
42:13
Speaker 1: like the like informal economy, informal businesses, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: creating like your own beauty salons, your own type of
42:23
Speaker 1: like giving No I don't want well, yeah, I guess
42:26
Speaker 1: you kind of aren't giving back to your community in
42:27
Speaker 1: that way because you're creating this like communal space where
42:30
Speaker 1: folks can you know, practice our self care if that's
42:33
Speaker 1: what it is for them, or their adornment, their worship,
42:35
Speaker 1: whatever it is for them. You know. However, manifest um,
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Speaker 1: there's so much fem brilliance and that there's a whole
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Speaker 1: is a whole lot. And I want to be clear,
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Speaker 1: we're not saying that the only fem tech or the
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Speaker 1: only fem brilliance is in beauty and now we're saying
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Speaker 1: the actual I mean, we're saying that there's so much more,
42:51
Speaker 1: but there's so much like where it has been accessible
42:54
Speaker 1: and before it's been channeled into and we want to
42:57
Speaker 1: celebrate it exactly. We're exactly and or it. But also
43:02
Speaker 1: we recognize, like using our examples in the first part
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Speaker 1: of this, like the ways that it's actual, you know,
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Speaker 1: being like produced in like actual STEM ways like bio
43:14
Speaker 1: you said, like biotech in biotech. Yeah, so yeah, we
43:18
Speaker 1: are not just like hair nails and makeup. We are
43:21
Speaker 1: so much more that happens to be how we adorn ourselves,
43:25
Speaker 1: which is brilliant and beautiful and just as brilliant as
43:29
Speaker 1: you know STEM because it is it is STEM. Yeah,
43:32
Speaker 1: so recognize that, appreciate, recognized, give credit where credit is
43:38
Speaker 1: due always and when you get your nails, then pay
43:41
Speaker 1: your nail techna. Those are geniuses who are creating functional
43:48
Speaker 1: art on your person. You know, yes, always took well.
43:52
Speaker 1: Any type of service that you're getting done, any type
43:54
Speaker 1: of always well, because not only did they work on you,
43:59
Speaker 1: but they're going to about so many other people it
44:01
Speaker 1: might not tip them well, which they probably don't. So
44:05
Speaker 1: you know, I think about the support people who are working,
44:09
Speaker 1: who are working hard. Support support women of color, immigrants
44:13
Speaker 1: or immigrants, queer folks, and people that are creating their
44:16
Speaker 1: people that are creating support them absolutely. Yeah. So we
44:21
Speaker 1: want to hear what you think about from tech um,
44:24
Speaker 1: and we want to hear about it in UM in
44:26
Speaker 1: a very real way because we will be at which
44:30
Speaker 1: is March eleventh, Yes, five to eleven pm. Yes, go online,
44:37
Speaker 1: look up tickets right because you don't have to get tickets.
44:40
Speaker 1: We're also doing a ticket giveaway we will give you UM.
44:44
Speaker 1: We will be posting on the Instagram about that and
44:48
Speaker 1: about the times for our workshop and all of that.
44:50
Speaker 1: So we'll be posting on our different social media so
44:52
Speaker 1: we can stay in touch about the logistics of the
44:55
Speaker 1: workshop that we're doing. UM. What are we doing as
44:58
Speaker 1: our workshops. It's really exciting, We're really excited. UM. We
45:02
Speaker 1: have a few different events coming up this spring, but
45:05
Speaker 1: this one I'm really excited about because at via head
45:09
Speaker 1: we will be recording a live slash like fem Knowledge Share, Yes,
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Speaker 1: and we'll be talking about fem tech. So if you
45:16
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this episode and you like you're thinking about
45:19
Speaker 1: your own fem tech and like all that's manifested in
45:21
Speaker 1: your in your life and for your family, Like come
45:24
Speaker 1: and share with us, tell us we're you know, we're
45:27
Speaker 1: going to be recording a life, so we really want
45:29
Speaker 1: to hear from y'all and what you think. Yeah, because
45:32
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, like the few examples that we
45:36
Speaker 1: were able to give from our life and our research,
45:38
Speaker 1: I'm positive that there are a lot of more heads
45:40
Speaker 1: out there, that there are a lot of people out
45:42
Speaker 1: there fems with just like a multitude of examples and ideas. Absolutely,
45:48
Speaker 1: I'm excited. So yeah, so look at her to get
45:52
Speaker 1: giveaway that we're going to be participating in for Viva
45:56
Speaker 1: la mo heead will post announcements, we are posting. We're
46:02
Speaker 1: gonna be posting announcements and updates about all of our
46:05
Speaker 1: events like as they happen. So make sure that you're
46:08
Speaker 1: following with us as always, you know. Um, you can
46:11
Speaker 1: listen to us on SoundCloud on iTunes. Leave comments, comives
46:18
Speaker 1: like things, share things. We love reading all the comments
46:22
Speaker 1: and messages you'll leave. It's really really exciting. It's really exciting.
46:27
Speaker 1: We get so high, Like when they have new comments,
46:30
Speaker 1: we send like screenshots to each other. By the way,
46:33
Speaker 1: so seeing like maybe they're not going to read it now,
46:35
Speaker 1: we read it and most likely we respond because we
46:39
Speaker 1: always respond, which we try our best to always respond.
46:44
Speaker 1: I think what we want to do is we want
46:45
Speaker 1: to ask you guys, if you have examples of fem
46:49
Speaker 1: tech in your life. If you are a fem techie yourself,
46:52
Speaker 1: we're femtex yes, if you're a fem techi, that's the
46:56
Speaker 1: hashtag we want to use, fem tech fem tech e
47:00
Speaker 1: comment on our posts. If you want to repost anything
47:03
Speaker 1: onto your profile, make sure you use hashtag look at
47:06
Speaker 1: our radio, hashtag femtech, hashtag brown girl hour, hashtag brown
47:09
Speaker 1: Girl our um and share with us the tech that
47:13
Speaker 1: you were brought up with, the fem tech that that
47:16
Speaker 1: the fems before you utilize. We want to hear all
47:19
Speaker 1: about it, absolutely, especially if you can't come out to
47:21
Speaker 1: about head, we'll be We'll we'll post something that everyone
47:24
Speaker 1: can have a conversation about it. So thanks again for
47:29
Speaker 1: tuning in. We will see you next time they see
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Speaker 1: us