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Cathy Moriarty - The Journey To Hollywood · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 1: Are you okay. I'm just I'm just tired.
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  Speaker 2: I can't sleep all any more money for lunch.
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  Speaker 1: My look has to change.
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  Speaker 2: Look whatever it is, I'm here. Look I'm fine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to Kats and Pudding and Today.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, hold on, oh Kats, I sucked it up.
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  Speaker 1: I sucked it up.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's totally good. I meant to say right
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  Speaker 4: headed step child, So you're not. But I thought I
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  Speaker 4: was your child and I'm in your homemance with you.
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  Speaker 1: That's all right. I think it's a little it's a
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  Speaker 1: little complicated. Let's try it one more time.
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  Speaker 4: Kats in Footing Podcast, a Melting Pot and now here's Jen.
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  Speaker 4: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to Kats and Pudding and Kitty.
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  Speaker 4: I am so proud that I have Katherine Duch to
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  Speaker 4: be my co host today and we have a Oscar,
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  Speaker 4: Wayne and Derry Well.
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  Speaker 1: Oscar nominated as now, but.
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  Speaker 3: Nominated for quite a few. But that's you're good.
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  Speaker 4: And a icon and I'm just thawstruck right now. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, tongue tied right now. Never ever thought you
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  Speaker 4: would see me tongue tied right now. Kathy Moriarty's Kathy
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  Speaker 4: fucking Kathy fucking Moriar. How about one you would do
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  Speaker 4: in your speech at the Pison Coon.
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  Speaker 3: We're at the Pison Con. I finally get to meet you,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I love you, I love you, I
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  Speaker 3: love you, No dude. She gets up, You're doing a
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  Speaker 3: Q and A. You're doing a Q and A. Nobody's listening,
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  Speaker 3: the mic is turned off, places gets out of yow Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I got Kathy fucking morioty here.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up.
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  Speaker 3: The room goes completely silent. I'm scared of her at
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  Speaker 3: this point. Usually people are scared of me. I'm like, well, thanks,
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  Speaker 3: not Duc. And that's where yes, I did give you
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  Speaker 3: no Duc a million years ago, just you would just nodu.
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  Speaker 1: She named me no Du.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody in the business calls me no Duc. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of people call me duc. Even Gandefini called me a duc.
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  Speaker 1: And I love that nickname. Right, It's great. She would say, nah, duch,
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  Speaker 1: do not duch, and she doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if she remembers I got the
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  Speaker 4: Sopranos because of Kathy.
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  Speaker 1: You called me up. Know what the phone call was? Hey,
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  Speaker 1: not duc.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard about this new show.
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  Speaker 4: But I just screen tested for the lead. Come Ela,
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  Speaker 4: but it's a good show. You should ask your agents.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you went up for it or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Called my agents and that's how I got it.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, I said, you Musko win for Carmela. You were
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  Speaker 3: not Carmela.
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  Speaker 4: Chamaem but I didn't. I didn't. I didn't even know
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  Speaker 4: about a Charmaine. They just set me in and I
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  Speaker 4: read for Camela like you.
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  Speaker 3: Just said, get in, and I was supposed to do.
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  Speaker 1: I Carmela.
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  Speaker 3: I went with James two HBO contract signed. Whatever happened.
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  Speaker 3: I have three beautiful kids. Otherwise I wouldn't have had them.
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  Speaker 3: And so all was good, and you were on it
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  Speaker 3: and everybody was on it, and everybody had a great time,
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  Speaker 3: right yeah, And I got the best out of all
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  Speaker 3: of you because I got my three beautiful kids.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. That is beautiful. I want to know
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  Speaker 1: something though, I love that I read for Camela.
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  Speaker 4: I ended up getting Chawmain And I remember thinking when
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  Speaker 4: I saw the show, I said, and I knew she
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  Speaker 4: screen tested for she tested for Camela, even for Edie,
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  Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, okay, for me, I loved d
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  Speaker 4: I thought Edie was Carmela.
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  Speaker 1: But if there was gonna be the the other Carmel.
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  Speaker 4: If there was, if it wasn't Eadie, definitely, but it would.
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  Speaker 3: Have been a different show. It would have I understood,
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  Speaker 3: and I understood David Chase because in the beginning when
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  Speaker 3: I met with David Chase, he goes, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe doctor the you know, Lorraine's part. Oh, Malfi for
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  Speaker 3: this part. And he did me a huge favor by
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  Speaker 3: having me go for that one. Edie was it was
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  Speaker 3: written for her, was beyond perfect, and you know, so
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  Speaker 3: it all worked out great and I was I'm a big,
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  Speaker 3: huge fan of it. And that was just God's way
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  Speaker 3: of telling me it's time.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I love that.
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  Speaker 4: I love that for you to even say that, like
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  Speaker 4: other people could be so bitter and they're not for
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  Speaker 4: other people's and and you know, for you to say that, that's.
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  Speaker 3: James and I were having conversations on the phone and
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  Speaker 3: doing all this stuff, and his mom had he had
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  Speaker 3: just lost his mind and he was, you know, his
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  Speaker 3: mom was the world. I hope my kids will miss
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  Speaker 3: me when I'm gone any right, Oh they will, because
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  Speaker 3: who's going to pick them? But you know, James Keith
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  Speaker 3: came to pick me up and took me to the
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  Speaker 3: screen test and we were just like, all right, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to work together for the next whatever. And it
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  Speaker 3: didn't work out. Then I called you and I said, no, dude,
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  Speaker 3: you got to get him. You got to get in
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  Speaker 3: on this. Because we both have the same name, so
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  Speaker 3: I always referred to her not as it was either
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  Speaker 3: cat or not dude. And then I called you. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, come meet me at the top of the hill,
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  Speaker 3: right because yes, And I was like, I am so pregnant.
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  Speaker 3: And I was pregnant with twins, remember idea. And You're like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, you're only waddling.
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  Speaker 1: So you were pregnant at the time.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I wasn't at that point, but
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  Speaker 3: a couple of months later later.
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  Speaker 1: Was which is amazed, Which is an amazing gift.
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  Speaker 4: That's for you to say that, it's but what I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying is.
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  Speaker 3: I never even think about it with any regret. It's
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  Speaker 3: always joy because all my friends were ended up being
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  Speaker 3: in it, so it was just such a pleasure. And
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  Speaker 3: and my kids, my Kathy and Joseph are twenty three
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  Speaker 3: now going on fifty, and and my Bella is twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know any other life now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know anything, you know. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I was with Kathy when you were just starting in
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  Speaker 3: and your kids were, yes, at the same age as
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  Speaker 3: my kists now. Yeah, and Mike Sally and who I'm
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  Speaker 3: still talking to.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I know, she's the best, the biggest heart of
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  Speaker 4: anybody I know in the business, anybody pure Oh me
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  Speaker 4: a thing. It's not like a cheerleader for Whis's because
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  Speaker 4: you say we.
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  Speaker 3: Worked together quite a few times. Now, We did Copland,
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  Speaker 3: We did.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what amazing movie that was that?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well, yeah, yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Wait can we talk about soap Dish? Oh? Okay, did
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  Speaker 1: you love soap Dish? Did you?
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  Speaker 3: That was a great more than life itself. Really, I
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  Speaker 3: was actually still in bed crying because I did not
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  Speaker 3: get the part. And I jumped through freaking hoops everything
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  Speaker 3: and I'm still in bed crying. My aging clothes no
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  Speaker 3: longer my age and obviously cap they're sending a carn
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  Speaker 3: get up. I was like, but wait, my clothes, it's
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  Speaker 3: coming in forty five.
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  Speaker 1: Get not fucking car?
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  Speaker 3: Can I curse?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you can say whatever you want whatever.
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  Speaker 3: They'll give you another plane ticket if you do get it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, all right, take it easy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: still in bed crying because there was a couple of
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  Speaker 3: people up for blah blah whatever. Anyway, Geena Davis ended
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  Speaker 3: up pulling out who would have been perfect to dose.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Gina. Yeah, I'm back in the running with
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  Speaker 3: another actress. I get on the plane, I fly to
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  Speaker 3: New York. They put the other actresses close. She under
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  Speaker 3: my door. I'm like, great, third time I'm getting turned down.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I ended up getting the parts, staying in
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  Speaker 3: New York and one of my favorite movies.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies.
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  Speaker 4: I just watched it. I love it, and I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to ask you what the character you played. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if any everybody who knows she plays an actress
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  Speaker 4: and they find out that she's.
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  Speaker 1: Actually a TRANSIENCD yes and at that and that's sad
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  Speaker 1: how long? I asked it long Island, long to.
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  Speaker 3: Get twenty five years ago going to Long Island. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't go look and I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: so I aw it.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, knowing how they in
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  Speaker 4: the light they put it in then, which was funny
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  Speaker 4: light It wasn't and it didn't mean anybody any harm,
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  Speaker 4: but it would have that you think today, what howard
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  Speaker 4: that have came across? You think people would have been
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  Speaker 4: offended by the way it was came across.
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  Speaker 3: I really didn't think about it. I actually played it
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  Speaker 3: completely straight that I mean, I played that then they
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  Speaker 3: actually went in at the end when I my Nurse
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  Speaker 3: nan Or Montana's Demise where I played Willy Lowan in
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  Speaker 3: Dinner Theater and it was it was my thirtieth birthday
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  Speaker 3: one time down and I was like, why would you
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  Speaker 3: cut that out? In the direction?
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  Speaker 1: Was gorgeous in that movie? By the way, yeah, my.
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  Speaker 3: Aids and chemo therapy. I was like, all right, oh shit,
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  Speaker 3: But what I learned on that one set with all
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  Speaker 3: of those icons. You know you have a bucket list. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: I knocked off that bucket list, Craig, Wow, what was
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  Speaker 3: in it? Named? The bucket list, okay, because Sally Field,
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  Speaker 3: Ken Climb will Be Goldberg carry Fish and Harry Hatcher,
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  Speaker 3: Robert Tony Jr. I mean it was going on.
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  Speaker 1: And she was having an affair with with Robert Downey. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was young.
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  Speaker 3: He was like just I thought he was the same
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  Speaker 3: age as me. He was younger than he.
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  Speaker 1: Was in just in Less than Zero was that was
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  Speaker 1: right before that movie.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit before. So he was on the straight
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  Speaker 3: and arrow on Yeah, and became my dear friend. And
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  Speaker 3: he was so supportive of me because I walked in,
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  Speaker 3: you know, literally got the part. And the next day
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: we were shooting outside the plaza. Wow, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: they never forget. I got so nervous and I had
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: a huge plister on my lip and they came in
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  Speaker 3: with a big switge and I was like, holy shit,
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  Speaker 3: shot it up, shrunk it and there you go.
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  Speaker 4: You looked but you was just and watching it recently, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, wow, she just looked so beautiful in that movie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that was so beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: You know. They had the best makeup, hair, all of
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  Speaker 3: your da You couldn't look bad at that.
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  Speaker 4: And the Sally Field, who doesn't play women like that,
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  Speaker 4: se sex symbols. She did such a great job. She
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  Speaker 4: did it so funny and so.
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  Speaker 3: Like sadly should be hysterical crying, and then behind the pillow,
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  Speaker 3: in like a hospital scene or something, she'd whip out
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  Speaker 3: her needle point ah, And I was like, how do
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: you do that? Wow? She said to me, because she's
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: to me, I mean, how much I love this woman?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? And and we with the November babies, it was
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: Terry Hatcher was she's actually December. WHOOPI Goldberg was November.
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  Speaker 3: I'm November. You're November exactly.
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  Speaker 1: My mom's November was November.
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  Speaker 3: And so we all have liked the November thing. And
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  Speaker 3: I said, how do you go from A to Z
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  Speaker 3: that quick? She because I don't know. I knocked on
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: that door and I just pray that somebody's there. Oh
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: she didst advice I had ever gotten from somebody, you know,
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  Speaker 3: as a woman. And I was like, wow, she goes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to throw it up to whoever and hopefully
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  Speaker 3: somebody landswer.
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  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. So you were already
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  Speaker 1: acting when you got raging.
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  Speaker 3: Both it was I was doing.
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  Speaker 1: And you was seventeen when you.
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  Speaker 3: Was seventeen When I met them. I just had turned
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  Speaker 3: eighteen when I finally got the partner screen test. Which
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: is funny because every time I told like Beverly Tangela,
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  Speaker 3: We're like yeah, they told me stay home. It was like,
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  Speaker 3: you're not mad at me? Still are you? She goes wow?
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  Speaker 3: But I remember I met them in September, right, and
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: I kept coming back, kep coming back, and then they
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  Speaker 3: went to la for a couple of weeks and I
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, silence. You know. Then when they
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: came back, they called me to come back down and
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: I would go after work. I was working down the
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  Speaker 3: garment center, and then I was working at fifty seven.
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: Bruenberger had this one casting director, the stupidest story. But
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: she'd come in every Wednesday night. She would never look
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  Speaker 3: up and she'd come with her assistant. She leaves like
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  Speaker 3: fifty cents. I finally one day I was like, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, father, She came up to me at a
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  Speaker 3: big Permi.
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  Speaker 1: That's like so, that's like so obnoxious.
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  Speaker 3: I was at the premiere for for the Boys with
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  Speaker 3: Bette Mellon and Jimmy conn and she came up. She goes, Kathy,
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  Speaker 3: And now I was doing well, I'm going twenty years
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  Speaker 3: later and I looked at her and I listened. I listened.
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  Speaker 3: I said, chicken parmesan every Wednesday. Whoa stop dead in
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  Speaker 3: her tracks? I was like, yes, I was your waitress.
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  Speaker 1: You better be nice as a viewer. Yeah, watch it
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  Speaker 1: come on the way down.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to pass them all the way down.
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  Speaker 1: So let me just go back to that. So you're
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  Speaker 1: seventeen years old.
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  Speaker 3: I started doing dinner theater when I was fifteen. The
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  Speaker 3: Elms for dinner theator on nine A, which they eventually
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  Speaker 3: asked me, would you like to come back? I was
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  Speaker 3: like why, I've already taken everything, every glass, every knife
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  Speaker 3: and fork in the place. We're done. Wednesday night was
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  Speaker 3: seniors night, so if you didn't have a big part
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: in the thing, you had to waitress, and it was
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: senior nine. They would literally take the teeth out, put
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  Speaker 3: it on the table mashed potatoes, and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: this has got to end. I had applied for a
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  Speaker 3: grant to go to acting school in nineteen seventy six.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: In November, it was only fifteen, and they didn't consider
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  Speaker 3: acting a profession back then. They said I should be
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: a nurse. I said, I don't want to be a nurse.
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  Speaker 3: I want to play nurse, which I did twice. Then
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  Speaker 3: I just I was like, you know, they just I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to go to acting school and I came. I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't come from a lot. There were very many
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: of us. My parents are from Ireland. There was seven
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  Speaker 3: seven of us biological children in nine years and three
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  Speaker 3: other kids I lived with us. So there were ten
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  Speaker 3: of us.
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  Speaker 1: Wait.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, and we were all basically the same age and
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  Speaker 3: that's how we rolled.
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  Speaker 4: So wait, so let me go. So you get a
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: who do you get a call from? How do you
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  Speaker 4: get the audition to play?
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  Speaker 3: I had done a bathing beauty contest at a club
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  Speaker 3: called Hoops that was in Mount Vernon on Sunday nights.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: I wanted this pair of shoes that they had at
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: this store called Marnie's and I will design this shoe again.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: It was the perfect There are black heels with the
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: pekaboo toe with you could remove the ankle strap or
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: leave it on. It was the perfect shoe and I
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: wanted them and they were ninety eight dollars. So I
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: was going out with this guy and he said, just
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  Speaker 3: go on the contest and if you win by the shoes,
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: and if not, I'll pay for the shoes. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I'll do that. And I didn't and I won.
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  Speaker 3: I got my hundred dollars and I went and I
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  Speaker 3: bought the shoes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how did you meet Joe peshe who helped you
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  Speaker 1: get the roll?
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  Speaker 3: Right? I know?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, tell us how you.
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  Speaker 3: Got No, I mean it was the Arthur Revenue gang whatever,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, we hung and we knew each other,
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  Speaker 3: the truth be told. My father worked down at National
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  Speaker 3: Cold Storage in Brooklyn, and sometimes he'd wear a really
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  Speaker 3: big coat and come home with a lot of frozen
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: blocks of shrimp and lobster tails. And I'd go down
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  Speaker 3: to and meet She's down Arthur Revenue. Joe was the
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  Speaker 3: so cool manager there there. Yeah, and I'd every second
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  Speaker 3: Friday sell them the shrimp out of the trunk of
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  Speaker 3: my car with my dad.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. So he sees you, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then he knew I was in the bathing beauty
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  Speaker 3: contest because why don't you send you know, Joe? Why
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: he send you a picture in I was like, God,
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  Speaker 3: little three by five. I go and I meet Sis
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  Speaker 3: Corman and she calls because I look like VICKI quite
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  Speaker 3: a bit. I don't even know who she is. Nothing,
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  Speaker 3: and I and my little picture in and she called,
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  Speaker 3: she goes, can you read sides? I was okay, I
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: didn't even know what anything was. Are you union? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: And you was seventeen at the time.
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  Speaker 3: I was seventeen, wow at the time. And I got
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  Speaker 3: past that a couple of times. They'd have me come
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  Speaker 3: back every day at five point thirty, but my shift
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: started at seven, and I'd be seeing all these like
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: really wonderful, amazing actresses walking out of this lobby on
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: fifty seventh Street. I was sitting downstairs waiting to be called,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: and they'd bring me up. And then Sis said to
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: me one day, can't care. I want you to meet
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: my friends. This is Bobby, this is Marty. I was like, hey,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: how you doing? Not a clue?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Denial scorse scores.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. So I meet with them and you know whatever,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: All right, cool, that's great. I thought you did a
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: movie with like a handheld, you know, homemade camera. That's
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: how I thought you did it. I didn't know. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: didn't know. So anyway, months go by. Now it comes
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: February and they're like, we want you to take a
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: screen test. Okay, I don't know what a screen test is.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know what sh it is. I know, I
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: know nothing. I know how to get from this club
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: to that club, to this to that. Right. Yeah, So anyway, Joe,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: she says to me, he just get a good night's
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: sleep tonight. Of course we're out till like five in
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: the morning, which is what time they were picking me up. Now,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: you knew Joe before I knew because I was selling
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: him shrimp and out of the trunk of my.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Car, because he owned a restaurant his family right in
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the Bronx.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: It was Joe. Yeah, and they had and Joe lived
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: upstairs and he was managing whatever. You know. We became
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: friends and then whatever, and.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: The rest is history. The rest is history, and then
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: you're academy.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: I'm at Melue soundstage take the screen test. And I
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: never forget Scorsese. And you know, he's a little bit
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: on the pale side, right like he's like close to
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: like paste. And he looked and he's like, okay, ready action,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: and they had the fence built and whatever.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: What's wrong, Kathy? I Well, I'm waiting for everybody to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: leave and he went't even paler. He goes, well, they're
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: not leaving. I said, well, why didn't you just fucking
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: tell me that? I said, let's go. They called me
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: two days later, they said, you have the part. Now
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I really don't know what to do. They were supposed
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: to start shooting in New York. They called me up.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: They said, pack your bigs, going to California because they
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: were doing all the fight scenes first.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: And that was that was you see, ignorance is bliss
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: sometimes I know what you were getting into.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't have a call.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: That's probably why it flowed so well, because you were
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: just stupid.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, sometimes stupidity prevents.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yes it does.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Ignorances like it kind of is in a way. You
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: don't really need to know everything. But as long as
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: you do your best, you can sleep that night. Because
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I tried, whether it be good or bad, anyway, I
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: was trying.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Were you shocked when you were nominated for raging both?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I had no idea what that even meant. Well, they
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: called me. I was in Europe. I was doing the
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: European tour with Vickie Lamana. Was fun and I wanted
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: to and I wanted to go to Italy because that
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: was next. I was like, you know, I did this
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: whole entire thing. I want to go. I didn't really
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: want to go there or there, but I did it. Anyway.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: You're like, you're nominated, you have to come home. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: was like, oh now, oh no, no, no, no, I can't. No,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: it's like what they told me I was pregnant. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: was like, oh no, yeah, like yeah, anyway, I came home.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I was nominated, and you know, how'd.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: You feel when you heard your nominated?
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I really didn't feel anything. I got on a plane
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: and ran again. I'm a runner.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did it change your career?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: It hurt my career how because there was such tunnel
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: vision it took. We finished shooting Raging Bill in December
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: of seventy nine, came out in November of eighty eighty one. Whatever.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: It was a whole year. I had no age and
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I had no manager. People were reaching out to me,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: but nobody would let me know because they didn't want
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: me having any protection because then they could manipulate. So
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: they were wrong in that sense. But I ended up
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: winning in the long room anyway. But then I got nominated.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything. I mean, listen, I got nominated
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: that your President Reagan was shot. I did my own
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: hair and makeup got this. It was a horrendous gown
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: by the way, Oh my god, it was so ugly.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: And president gets shot. They caught, They're like, okay, oscars
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: are canceled. I said, well, I'm not eating that food tomorrow.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: That's all I could think of. Wo Yeah, So then
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I had to redo the whole entire thing. I didn't
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: have a stylist, I didn't have hair. I kept all
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: of that from me. I went on tour for all
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: these weeks, you know, with fifty bucks in well.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You could never tell because you were were still stunning.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but then there was a lot of
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: tunnel vision, and then I did neighbors right out.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: When you say tunnel vision, they tried to pigeonhole, you're.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say they tried to pigeonhole. But
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: it's not like I had a big force of advocates
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: for me. You should go with this person, you should
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: do this, you should do that, not everything. And Joe
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: always looked out for me, you know, as far as
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: accounting and stuff like that. And I was young and
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't listen, you know, I mean, Bobby seriously tried
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: to guide me in the right way, but I just
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: thought I knew I was all that in a bag
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: of chips, and I wasn't.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: So so let me ask you this so you get
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you get nominated. You said it hurt your career because
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: they would tunnel Vision.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Was going to meet me for other parts, because such
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: a hard part, and I was playing a person, but
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: it's not like I could do research on her. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: got stuck a little bit happily through the movie, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: then it was Marty who finally pulled me to the
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: side and sat me down and explained an awful lot,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and then the rest of the movie was smooth sailing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I trying to play this person who you won't let
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: me meet. It's because it's not her. You're not playing her,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: You're playing what jakesies.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: His vision of her.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Then I really understood it. Like the end of the
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: COPA scenes, I said, would she really say that?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: And it was like in a horrific language and sexually
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: in int whatever, And I finally I was like, oh
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: my god, that's why when Vicky would come to LA
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: they would fly me back to New York. It would
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: not let us, and we had both written each other letters.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: After the movie was finished, in say, December January, I
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: took it upon myself that I finally found her, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I flew myself down to Florida to meet her, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: we spent the weekend together. We never slept a wing
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and I got to know her and she had just
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: come out with the Playboy centerfold at fifty you know
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: all that, met her other kids, and it was good.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: And then I understood that I was playing a character
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: that somebody else.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: You're playing his version of her exactly.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: She left went. We never had a premiere. We had
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the twenty fifth anniversary premiere, and when I went to
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: his screening, Scorsese was still running up the street with
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: like the film in his hand. He didn't have the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: movie ready, So we never had anything.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: But Vicky was with me at the screening and I
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: was in the bathroom throwing up, and my father walked in.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, doub what are you doing? It's the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: ladies room. He was so nervous. It was my brother's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: and sisters and they were younger.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did everybody come? Did your whole family come?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: My whole family came out and then my mom even
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: had like a little party at home after Wow, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: then I had to go to the city because I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: had to work the next day. My dad walks in
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: because he was more nervous than I was. But Vicky
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: was there and I was like, I'm so sorry if
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I did not do you proud. She goes, I've never
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: been happier in my life on look, oh wow. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I stayed friends with her until the week she passed away,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: which was right before the twenty fifth anniversary. She passed
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: that Tuesday.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Did she help Marge Scorsese with the script that was
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: it hard? Did she write a book? Because I thought
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: she did.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: She did, and they sent the book to me. Her book,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: it's like it's not a movie, you know, It's just
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: it's just like memo, what's done is done. But she
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: did work with martk Martin and in Denio quite a bit.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: They went down to visit her with the writing and stuff.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: The Raging Bull was based on a book that a
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: guy named Pete Savage wrote with Jake Lamata. I don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: think I've ever read the book. I'm telling you the truth.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: But it's not like you know, you got a script
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: back then. Everything improvised.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Could I ask you what was the one thing that
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: you took that clique for you to create the character
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: that you went, Oh, I found her now and you have.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: A full And after Scorsese pulled me aside and explained
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: that to me that you're playing his version, version of
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: his version, so you'll never know that because he had
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: such mental illness. And then de Niro taught me. And
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I hung out with Joe Pesci every day, who made
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: sure I was like fed and watered. Basically, he was
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: so kind, so kind. We'd walk down Sunset Strip to
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Mirror Bells and get our peace soup.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: You know, love Mira Bells.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I do, I do, go ahead. But Bobby had said
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: to me one day, DENI robby.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: People close to him go out to call him Bobby.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Joseph just got another dog. We have to call him
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: mister Nella. We'll call him mister. De Niro was very
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: kind to men, and and Marty always checked on me
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: at least once a week. You're good, what's going on?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: And Marty storyboard things for me. And I was fascinated
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: with cartoons and like comic strips. Yeah, showing me the breakdown.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I was fascinated with stuff like that. You have to
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: remember I didn't have a chance to go to school.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: You know, they say comera right. It was like God,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: somebody just say right or left? You know. I still
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: to this day have to look down check and see
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: which way I got to go. I knew nothing, but
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: that's how it makes you so great. I knew nothing technical,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: but I was willing to ask questions and finally told
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: them one day I did not show up with my dictionary. Today,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what that meant, and so break
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: it down for me, and they would. But if I
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: didn't have a big mouth to become because I was
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: tired of pretending that you knew what she was going on,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: studying on like this before computers, before something like I.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Read walked and you imagine and that at that point
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: that you could not pick up a computer and look
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: up at anything.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't call my mother, and then at
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the hotel it was twenty five because what.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Would be really, what would your reference be unless you
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: read a book or about about That's true, we read
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: something about them in a magazine, I mean, but Wikipedia.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: To VICKI had given them all of her scrap books,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: so I knew how to look, how to pose. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: was able to learn that because of mister Deannaro, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: he'd go through all the scrap books and stuff with me.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Joe was very knowledgeable on certain things. Because Joe actually
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: wasn't who they were looking for. They looked at a
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: movie called Death Collector. I don't know if I can say.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I guess I can say whatever I want at this point,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: a movie called Death Collector, and they were looking at
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Joe courtesy to play the brother and they saw Joe
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Peshi and they were like, wow, he actually looks like
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Joe Lamana and that's how they got Joe because Joe
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: gave up acting. He was done. He was dead. But anyway,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: so then going back to de Nio had told me,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: he goes, if you can find a character and bring
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: it to life and be comfortable with it and stay
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: in that So I was able to bring Jake's version
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: of Vicki to life with the help of De Nio
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and Peshi and Scor, that's good.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And then that's amazing.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Then I was comfortable. At least I was okay.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: My favorite scene in that whole movie is when you're like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I fucked your brother. I fucked you when you just
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: get you gave up and you gave into his madness.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: She just I was a great she just had enough.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm John want fighting with you. Yes, I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: did it. I fucked your brother. I fu your like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: fuck you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Going down the stairs came from the cameraman, Dusty, just
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: to give him a little credit, a bigger than yours.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: And that came from him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Wow wow wow. But anyway, so now we're going to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: move on to the Oh, Jeff's bowl.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it Jeff Jeff's bawl because we have
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: no questions in there. Jeffy with me on the way, Jef,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: who is Jeff Jennifer.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Jeff is like my He's everything for me.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: He's my I G he's my therapists, he's my assistant
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: just Silistlis.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And he's also your bowl creating question. He is is
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: your goat, here's my goat? Have we have things in
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: this bowl? And we're going to start. I guess since
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I'm holding it out, you want asked me the question. Yeah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the question, and then you're gonna take
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a question. Ask Kathy. Kathy can pick.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: One and are these for me too? These questions because yes,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: oh okay.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I trust you, you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Can't trust him. He was hungover.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, Kathy, this is how we woke up this morning.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I was, I was on speed when I woke up
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: this morning. I have them on it. I'm like on
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: a phone call with the two. I'm like, all right, Jeff,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: hold on, I put you on the three way with Kathy.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Hold on, Kathy, just on the phone, and I'm like, Jeff,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: just talk. And I said, Jeff say hello to Kathy
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: like he was a little kid. She woke up and
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: bost bitch mode. But you guys, yeah, so let's let's
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: just say.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read a question right now. I don't know
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: what's on Jeff's mind. Hung my mind, this is hungover, Jeff.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I will ask where should I go?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: This way?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: This way? Whatever you want? That way? I know I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: can right, Okay, here we go. Oh, I know this
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: is the fuck up most fucked up question. You better be.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: You better answer this on? I will you don't all
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: answer it on?
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Come on, where is the craziest place you ever hooked
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: up with someone?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: When you say hooked you mean fuck or I mean
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: just cancel?
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: What my best I had sex in Macy's elevator outdoor
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: elevator coming from the pocket.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: What.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, at about nine at night.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: We were coming out of Macy's on Queens Boulevard and
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: we were going into the Pocketmont and there's an elevator
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: that comes out of the male up into up into
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: the pocket. No, you can't see it now, but anybody
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: could have been there, and any family would have opened
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: the door with their kids and they're like, holy shit, yeah,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: my god.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Were you nervous? No, you enjoyed it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I totally enjoyed it, I told and we were finished
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: with No, it was it was you know what it was.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: It was late at night, so nobody was in the
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: parking lot really, so it wasn't like it was like
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: in the middle, like at seven o'clock at night. It
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: was like towards the end when it was closing, so
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the parking lot was empty, so it was maybe three
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: cars on the floor.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: So we kept it kept like opening and closing. So
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it was, Okay, that's a good answer.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I haven't done anything that crazy in a long time,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: so I have to kind of in an elevator in
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: a wall in a more parking lot. Yeah, I'm kind
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: of crazy one too, but that was probably the crest.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know who how would it go? You'll ask car,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I don't. I can't top you. I can't top you.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And these people have had sex with Robert and Joe
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Pesci on camera and they can't top me. Right, have
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: you ever had sex on camera with with with with
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Joe Robert?
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: What do you mean like real sex?
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: No, like sake sex, like as as as Yeah, have
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: you not.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Seen Majing Bell?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying like yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And then as I was coming up out of that
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: scene in the mirror in this little apartment Pellam Parkway
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: is the boom guy staring straight at all. I don't
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: think he's supposed to be in that. And I felt
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: so bad because he ended up getting fired because he
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: got lost in the scene and just kept staring at me.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I'd well, you.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Very covered up at that point because that was like
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: years and years ago.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Why did they.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Keep on film? Wow, nobody's really asked me you.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: You are beautiful.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're a great body, especially in that in raging, balling.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: The moments where I've had a good body, moments where
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I've pudged up, And you know, it's all part of life. Whatever.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I'm good where I am right now, I'm good enough.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Are you happy with yourself? And that's all that matters.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I'm delighted with me. I'll tell you that it took
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: me a long time. I'm six now and it took
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: me a long time. I'm at peace.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: And as long as the judge asked me in one
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: of my numerous court cases, what is it exactly that
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: you want, miss morioist? I want peace? How much does
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: that cost?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: How much does it cost? I'll pay for it? Wow?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: It just want piece.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: How much.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Is a beautiful just to wake up on your own
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: in the morning, taking a smile, have a cup of
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: coffee and wake up mayhem and drama? I had enough
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: drama in my life.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Isn't that wonderful to get to that?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Kids feel like you're awful calm? That might not be good?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: They are they scared of you when you're calm, because
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: my kids are frightened of.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Me if I go to the garage, if I go
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: to the garage.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: They know, they know not to master? What mom piece
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is priceless? Okay?
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Ready, okay? What TV show do you think is overrated?
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: This is a stupid question. Why don't you give me, like.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Get another one? Yes? I see one?
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: All right, he was give the guy a break? All right,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: let's say good question. Actually, oh that we just asked
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: you about this. How do you feel about taking naked pictures?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I don't. I haven't taken anything, I'll admit to.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with that?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: No?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: No, not at all? And you've never done it in
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: your career? No? Will you ever asked it?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Do Playboy after? Did you? Did you ever meet you? Hefna?
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Did you ever go to Playboy mansion? Because I could
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: see him wanting you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: To come there?
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Because oh, yes, that's not that's not my thing. No, no, no, no, no.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: No, nobody ever went to the midnight summer dream party
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in the Playboy Man.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: You know what I wish, and I would. I would
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: pose naked. I would totally be not great.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: But are you kidding me? It's just not my thing?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: No?
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Okay. If you could be a cast member on one
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: of the Real Housewives franchises, would you do I have
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: your answer, I'll.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Do it if you do it, Cat, I like that, Yes,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: if you two do it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: All.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I heard or I read in something that Chelsea Handler
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: is going on to Beverly Hills Housewives. Something else is
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hill whatever it's called. I actually like will watch
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: that show sometimes because I love the fashion. I miss California, Cat,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: so I watch it just to say, oh my god,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I see there. Okay, this is great. Not dude, what
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: type of lesbians would you be? And who is your
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: lesbian crush? Oh? Only I could ask this question, glad,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I doubled.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I would be a lipstick lesbian, boy girl lesbian, right,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: like a boy girl lesbian. That's so much lipstick because
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not, like, I don't have long nails, so you know.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I think stick lesbian is more like that's like porn lesbian.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Down as an educated lesbian, okay.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: And educated lesbian, and my girl crush gotta be her alright,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: question would be Jennifer.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: But if it was a celebrity, I think it would
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: be oh ship, uh god, I don't know. I have
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to get back to that. I gotta hear that one
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: because I like to hear that. We're all like, I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: don't want to cheat on you right now. Say she
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: does want to cheat him. We're still in a hole.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Man's together, all right? You ready for one more? Two?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: More more round?
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: No, wait, I gotta ask you. We're asking two at
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a time.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: If it's not spicy, it's getting the phone on the table. Yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: we're getting We're gonna throw it out, Jeff.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: If it's not spicy, she liked this. It's not spicy,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: but it's good. If an actress had to play you,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: who would you want to portray you?
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: You al answer?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You see this such a romance. Good questions, I'll ask
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you Kat. Oh, no, you gotta ask Cat.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I'm gonna ask you both this next question.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Let's say if it's a good one, I got good ones, okay,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: both of you. Is there such a thing as too big.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Meaning a peepeh ship.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: You're talking talking about the the broccoli, Yes, okay.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: The peepe its big. I think there's a too big,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: of course.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Sometimes if it's too big, it kind of it's not enjoyable.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe my shop has been closed, you know, for quite
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: some time. I whatever, But back in the golden there
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: is such a thing as Yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm sixty three. I don't have too many complaints.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: All right, Kathy's keeping it under the hush hush.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I think she I think she has a little I
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: think she has a I think she has a little
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: romance going on. Okay, well, let's say if you could
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: bring back a fashion trend from your childhood.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't like this one. That's stupid. I want
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to do a good one. Oh, okay, this is a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: good one. Here you go. If you are a drag performer,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: what would you drag name be?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Holy shit, I gotta go with Montana Whead. I'm gonna
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: go right back to Wow. I thought that she would
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: be brilliant.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: What is it? Montana?
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Montana Morehead? And then Milton more Head and then Nurse Nan.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Because you would have to have an alter ego, because
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: because the drag is the boy and the girl, right, I.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Think Montana was half and half. Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't get that far. But from the waist up,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: my god, I was gorgeous. Wow.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, would you what would mind be? Oh? I don't know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I used to have a club before we opened up
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Mulberry Street. We had this place. It was cool Manhattan West.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Then we turned it into Alzatos and down the street
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: was the cause of full and every night the guys
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: that performed were the women that performed or whatever the
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: heck they were. Yeah, they performed, would stop in and
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: they'd feed them and we'd go down. So one night
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: I went down to the show and they performed. They
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: were brilliant. Wow, they were brilliant. They were beautiful in
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: La in La right on Losiana. So they were male
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: drag male drag into female. And they first of all
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: made me weak, because you know, everything makes me weak anyway, Wow,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: and I would laugh. But there they gave me the best.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: They taught me how to contour, and they had the
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: greatest legs. This I'm going big. I'm going back to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight. But yeah, and they passed by and
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: they'd come in and oh my god, that's just a
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: whole It was amazing.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So Kathy, So I did this with
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Catherine the first when she when she first did her.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Episode with me.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: And I love the fact that at least one of
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: the So it's a game called fuck Mary or Kill
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you three names of people that
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: you've been in projects with movies, and you're gonna tell
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: me whether you want to fuck them, you want to
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: marry them, or you want to kill them.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: You got three options.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: You've got three men, right, so you have three men,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: and those three options suck maryo kill Okay. So there,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: but you guys, there's you have. There's one that's both
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: of you have the same the same group of men.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: So I want to say, if you're how you're going
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: to answer, if it's the same as Katherine or different? Okay, Ready,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: fuck Mary or kill uh Bill Pullman, Robert Danny Jr.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Or Paul Johansson.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I got to pick one of them.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: You gotta say, you gotta, Hey, I either want to
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: fuck Bill Pullman married Robert Danny or.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Kill Joe Paul Johansson.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I probably marry Robert Jenny Jr.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Good joints.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the other? Kill Bill Pullman, Bill Pullman. Okay,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I'll take that one and that. I like Bill, but
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I definitely don't want to fuck himself. I will save
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Johansson for the last I love it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Well. You know you could also fuck. You could also fund.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Them by killing them too, right, That's what I said
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: them Dad, fuck them to death till six.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: You could pull it out.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Good, but not with that list. Give me another list.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, John Belushi, Sylvesta Stallone or Ray Loyota.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, I could say who I.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Would do that?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Ray? We got that covered right, Okay, what's the other two?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: John Belushi or Sylvester Stallone? Oh?
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I'd married John Belushi and a heartbeat that I'm miss him.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: How much? How much I loved John miss I was
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the last woman to work with him, Wow, neighbors with him.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I was the last person to work with him. I
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: talked to him four days before he passed ship and
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: he crushed me and destroyed me. How much I love Wow.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Him and dan Aykroyd took care of me like Joe
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: and Joe Pesci And you would marry Bluechi? Oh? Yeah?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Kill Who was I killing? Sebasti saloon Rad? I definitely
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: wouldn't kill him. And he's another one, another one, I know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean missing the friendship, the friendship that
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I just loved raise so much. I mean, we go
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: back so far, so you'd kill Stalone and fuck right,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I guess I have no choice but to kill Slone who?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: You know? Those are my options? He's gotta go.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, alright, all right, this is okay, it's in't and
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: off for you.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I'm was also on one of your lists.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Raffi Raphivron.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I always say his name of No she you're not
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: asking me? No?
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: If she didn't work, I don't know who he is.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry?
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you? You have the wrong? Oh?
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Do you know somebody did this to me the other day?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I was doing like an e.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: You putet no, you put you put this with Katridge
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: by accident. I think you got that all right, so
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: scratch him. But I do have the last one.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I am going to ask you this though, because I can.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Would you because I'm thinking of the movie Copland now too?
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Would you Copland?
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What's his name? Not Christopher Walking? Harvey Kite? Would you?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Would you Mary kill Harvey Kaitel?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I think I've done basically all of them except the first.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Except the first one. I guess you might as well.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I've known Harvey since I'm seventeen, have
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: already married him in a movie, right, and a couple
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: of other things with him, had my kids with me,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: and he's like, listen, let me tell you to tell
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: them nothing, Harvey, Please, for the love of God, tell
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: them nothing everything in moderation that that's not good advice.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: You're a horrible parent. So I'd have to kill him.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, she got it out, all right, got it out.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I'd have to kill him.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I have to kill him. She was, she was really, I've.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Already married him. I've pretty yelled at him. So yeah,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: we'd have.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: To kill him to kill Okay, so we kill Harvey.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: It's funny. I have a portrait from Copland that they
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: did of Harvey and myself and it's like, at this
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: abandoned it's not abandoned house, that is at this house
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: that I have upstate from nineteen seventy nine, and they're like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: who is that, mom, It's like, I don't know. And
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: then I had to like like look really close. I
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, it's me and Harvey.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: There were so many great people in that movie. Oh yeah,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: that cass was packed full of amazing.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I that was a part that they
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: kind of got like soap dish. Somebody had pulled out
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: of it and demand whatever would not hire me for
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: years and years and years, and had no choice but
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: to hire me.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: On that, James Mangold directly.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I love James. Yeah, I love working with you on that.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I was but I got cut out, not me, but
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a whole scene. He's a party scene. I don't know
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: whose husband.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Who's he too got cut out. She was the bartender. Yeah,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: but we have fun.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: That was been a great set to work on.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: It was a lot of people played roles that you
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: wouldn't expect them in, Like Robert didn't play a cop
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: instead of like an asshole.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, he played the FBI.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: He played the internal affairs guy who's real assholes. Yes,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they Michael, he was great.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I love Can I ask one question to both of you.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I always like to ask these kind of questions, but
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: I asked Kathy first because she's the guest.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: If you had one superpower, what would it be.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: To feed the world?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Wow? Amazing.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I'd like to be able to feed the world.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know that's first thought. Wow, don't give me
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: that much credit. Is the first thing that popped into
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: an empty head. But yeah, I'd like to be able
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: to end world hunger.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I love that. That's fucking really great. Cat.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Think I just would like to have peace. I just
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: wish this the whole. What would just be peaceful?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Piece is a beautiful Let everybody live and you would
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: get to that spouse.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: What's the superpower?
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Superpower would be trolling your mind, not letting everybody else
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: control it. Control.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Hey, listen, that is a superpower, because absolutely I would
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: like to see into the future.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: That would be something i'd like.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Would you I've seeing that when I don't want.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: To You don't want to know the future? Would create?
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this creepy question. Would you want
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: to know the day you die?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Or how you die? You know that's a that's a
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: weird question.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: I would like to know, But then I think after
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I know, I wouldn't want to Yeah, because I'd be
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: waiting for that day to happen.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just because.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: When you think, I listen, if you want to die,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: you can make that happen any day of the week.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Let me.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Choosing not to know and not wanting to die, I
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: think is a better option. What's your answer? It's a
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: great question.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: It would be no one. No, I wouldn't want to
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: know when or how?
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: But what about what super power would be to fly,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: to fly, I wouldn't want to fly because.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I always dream I'm flying.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: When sh it gets when she hits the fan of
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: my dreams, I'm like, I'm in my dream.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I could fly and I stop flying.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I used to tell my dad when I was a
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: little kid growing up and as an adult growing up,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: just five more minutes, let me finished my dream. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: used to want to finish my dreams. Yeah. I was
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: enthralled with Bewitched. I just wanted to wiggle my name.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I dream of Genie.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I thought she was Darren and there was two Darren's there.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but that's a that's a great question.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So could I ask one more? Oh? Okay, hmmm, boring?
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Boring?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Boring?
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Oh if you if you were deserted on an island,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: and this is a common question, but I'm interested in
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: knowing you would deserted. What what's one thing you would
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: bring in? What music would you listen to? It could
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: only be one one song?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: One song?
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Oh okay?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: And what would you bring with you you go first?
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I would soapering, moisturized, and I would if I could
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: bring Billy Joel with me, I would wow. It would
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: be from his Turnstiles album New York State of Mind.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's what he did that live. I saw him do.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: That.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And if I could take meat love with me too?
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Wow, you like me huge?
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: And I got to work with him twice.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: And you got to hear him sing ah, well you
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: can't anymore but unfortunately, but to hear him sing opera,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: the Antonio Banteros, the two of them, wow voice. Yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: But Billy Joel I was turned onto when I was
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: really young that it was so ahead of my time.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: They'd hang out with these people that were so much older,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: you know, fifteen going on thirty. And yeah, you know,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Billy Joel had a huge, huge impact on me going
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: to California. Think about a how Turnstiles. I have it
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: on an eight track, I have it on a vinyl.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I guess you call it beautiful. I just love that
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I love.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? How music just it brings you back?
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: My son, Mom, do you want I'll get for your birthday?
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: He said, it's just chill. And I love Andre Bachelli.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I love him and I'd love to go see him
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: with my son, who so respects and appreciates his music,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: and my son he wants to get me Billy Joe.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: It's like either one will be perfect. Thank you too beautiful? Yeah,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: and moisturizes are of course, and what about you?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: So I would take probably any track of the Rolling Stones,
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: and I would take come in. Yes, I know there
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: supposed to be their last half. That's been the last
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: half for forty years.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: But look.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: And I know that's what one of his favorite groups. Yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: and they're good friends.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Do you have a meet Mick Jagga? No? Wow, yes
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you've met Micjagger. What's one thing you take with you?
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I would I want to take Big Jagger with me
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: when he was younger.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Oh ship, So you want Mick Jagger and you want
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: to use I wanted to sing to me. Now you
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: could save on that deal because you could. So I
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: want to Big jag and let him sing to you. Yeah,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: I could do that and have another option music.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: I'd probably take food with me because I would probably
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: die without some kind of good food.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: So I would probably say like my grandmother with me.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I would say that I would.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Want to always have something haughty and make sure that
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I was fed.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's good.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: And you know what's funny You and I saw Andre
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Butchell lea together at the met and on this like
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: fifty people away from us, two feet.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Away from us. It was actually the Natural History.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: The Museum of naturally a response when he was singing
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: like we had no idea what we we didn't.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: He just went to this private thing.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Like fifty people. He came out right here.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I saw Walters walk in. I'm sitting here, you're sitting
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: with that, and he's right there, and I was quiet,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: a good week, good then I saw him. I think
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I was with them with job. Actually maybe I think
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: maybe that was Whitney usonim. But they would take me
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: to a lot of things. But he's just.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Now his kids are saying unbelievable always.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: That God feeling a God moment. Yeah.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's like something that you'll never ever.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: I can't explain the experience. I just want my children
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: to have these experiences, and they've had a lot of
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: good ones, but he still can't top mom, you know,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: and I want them to have every one of those.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: You know, that moment in time that you will never
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: you can never be erased, you can never forget, you know.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I love that. I love that I love my life.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you one more last question? Yeah?
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: What is your perfect role right now at this point
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: in your life? What would you want to play? Movie
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: or TV?
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Anything? You have it, Kathy, I'm going to make a
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: phone call. You got it.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I have it down quite yet.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: You know, it's always what haven't you played that you
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: want to play? I want to be a nun? Why
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: you know, a noun? But you know that's what I
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: would say. But now I've been doing like so much research.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: What about Agnes of God?
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: Ye?
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Play?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I would like you to move that. I'd go back
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: to Rose Tattoo and wow, you know, I mean if
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: they're we're going to go back back Sarah.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know that was a play, had
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: a movie?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know. Yeah, but that's a
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: really good question. I've optioned. I started optioning people.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Well I've been doing I.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Know, I know people's books and stuff. So I optioned
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: this book. It's just so sad. It's based on a
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: true story about this this woman, Fiona. I've optioned her
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: book to play her older and then, but it goes
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: through her life of her father abusing her in pressing charges.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: The first person in history she ended up her father
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: went to jail and turned around and pressed charges on
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: her mother because the mother knew all about the abuse
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: of the father the whole time, and she died before
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: they could. Probably it's a little too dark for right now,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: but it's a story that should be told. So I'm
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: into like stuff like that. Wow, yeah, to play a
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: real person. Yeah yeah, I don't want to play me either.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: I want to see you do something really juicy and
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: be nominated all over again.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Come back, k Yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here looking at the boat of you like.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: You were in a movie that was like iconic, like
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: probably in my top fly of movies that I do know, yes,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: and you were in the top five of shows that
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Like I'm sitting here with these two amazing women, I
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: cannot like, I'm an ore of the both of you.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: And why are we here? Oh that's right, because of you?
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Do. I love that. I'm like, I feel like it's
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: so surreal right now for me.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I have to tell you that's very special. Know you're worth,
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you, You're worth. Remember that. And now I think
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: it's something I tried to teach me too, too. Well,
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: you better know your worth. Yeah, because you're good.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: And you guys are beauty. I cannot believe you. I
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: can't believe you here. I'm happy here. I'm so happy
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: that I got to meet you. I got to meet her,
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: then I got to meet you.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: How long are you? Guys? Friends?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: We had a little we have a little homemance going
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: on for now for.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: What on the incident on on Instagram Instagram?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: For like three years we were talking on and off
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: and then like we we knew.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I knew God, they introduced you to me.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, yeah.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: And my daughter thought it was so funny. She goes,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: you will sound the same mom if you do, didn't
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: hear dog, you'd one of them. I just laugh at her.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: We do. We will have the same commonalities.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, we'll like the same soul and the soul
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: were the same type of people. If I cut from
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: the same cloth, that's what it is.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: It's called the mom Jean. Yes, definitely the mom the
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: mom Jean.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: But I knew I would go.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: I knew in the minute I saw I talked to
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: her on Damn, I knew we would be friends. I said,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: you just you know when you just feel like you
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: know somebody your whole life. And then when I met you,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: I felt the same way.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, very much the same way with you.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: And then talking to your daughter, I felt like I
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: was talking to my own my own daughter. She's so beautiful,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: she is dynamite.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: They are beautiful. Yeah, beautiful girl. My Bella is my Bella,
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: She's my baby. You know I had three in a year.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I had Kathy and Joseph, my twins, and then I
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: had Bella the same year.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Talk about having Irish triple.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Irish triplets, and you know what, man, it's so And look.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: At you and look now, look at this. You have
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: these beautiful gifts.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: And I have a smile on my face.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: God less. What's your one advice? If we could end it,
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: what's your what's your one.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Solid advice should give to an upcoming actress?
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Drink a lot of water?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And what is yours? What is your? What is your advice?
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Never give up, don't listen to people, dream don't listen
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: to anybody. You gotta have if it's in your heart,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: you gotta have the follow through and just keep fucking going.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: And get it. Get up.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Let's go, get get that price, you get knocked down,
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: you get and anybody who's in your your your your
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: poriphial vision telling you now get the get the fuck
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: out of the way, and you gotta just go. And
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: that's why because when New York women were tough and
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: they will move out of our way.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: You don't will hit you, We'll beat you. I have
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: great insurance.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a great episode this was.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Oh Kathy, thank you so much for coming on the show,
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: and I hope you come back again.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: We loved it. This was great.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: I had so much fun and my beautiful Kittie that
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: we had you on today as my co host be
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: first and many first of many shows.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: And it was a great episode. Oh my god. I
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: can't wait till it is. Everybody, please watch us on YouTube.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Apple, Spotify and watch the whole episode, not just the shorts.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, we need the views on the full episode. Everybody.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: You're going to email me that stuff, right.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to email you that stuff.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: You look at an email, make sure we email miss Moriodington.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Then I'll tell my kids and then they'll.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: And they help you. That's what this is. What we
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: all need our kids to.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Help us to figure out how to work and cut off.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Food when we're old and we can't do it. I
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: don't know if they're going to do it for me.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: We we'll say, everybody, have a great day.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: This is Kat's in pudding and I'm Jen and Katy
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: and Kathy