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Anaconda 1997 & Anaconda 2025 · Citizen Frame

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What the hell is this? Anacondas. Is snakes out there this big?
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This skin is three or four years old.
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Whatever shed it has grown since then. But something like this has made a meal
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of our dear captain. What?
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Snakes don't eat people. Oh, they don't?
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Anacondas are a perfect killing machine. They have heat sensors.
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A warm body like Mateo's. In the water, It wasn't hard to find.
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They strike, wrap around you, hold you tighter than your true love,
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and you get the privilege of hearing your bones break before the power of the
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embrace causes your veins to explode.
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Imagine something is big to capture a lie. It's worth a lot of money, Gary. Jeez.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another exciting episode of Citizen Frame.
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Now, we are talking running man.
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Soon we're not we're not delaying it like we did with well everything final destinations,
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everything else no we are definitely getting to it i'm looking forward to it
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we thought it'd be a good time though because anaconda 2025 came out and i like
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to go to a movie once a week just to give the biz some some money and as a fanboy
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i am like my routine and there was really nothing else to go to. Yeah.
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It's John DeWater. So, yeah, we decided to go see Anaconda 2025.
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Now, I'm a big fan of the original.
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So, as you all know, I love my creature features.
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And so, what better way to start off before we do the Running Man reboot and the original?
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Let's talk Anaconda and technically the reboot within the reboot.
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And so, what we're going to do is we're going to talk Anaconda and then we're
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going to give you a small review on what we saw yesterday at Anaconda 2025.
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It won't be as in-depth as what we usually go through, but it,
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In all fairness, neither was there a script.
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I think they basically watched Tropic Thunder, took notes, and then basically
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ran with it with Anaconda.
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All right, so we're going to jump into Anaconda here. Anaconda,
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directed by a guy I really enjoyed some of his stuff.
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He's kind of not retired. He left Hollywood. He decided just to work in South America.
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He's Perugian. Is it Perugian? Peruvian. He's Peruvian? Is he Peruvian?
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Okay. He's from Peru? Yeah.
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From Peruvian? He's Louis Lusol.
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Apologize if I'm butchering that. He did a film that was fucking awesome. And I want it badly on 4K.
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It takes place in South America in the jungle. So he's used to that kind of surroundings.
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And it is a wonderful, wonderful film. Tom Berenger. It's called Sniper.
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Anyone who's listening to this podcast will watch Sniper because we'll definitely
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get to it it's so fucking good I haven't seen it but I quite like Tom Barringer
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it's Tom Barringer Billy Zane that's it right there's nobody else in it it's
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about a sniper and his target his target no no he's good,
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sidekick whatever they call a sniper sidekick,
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and how they're in the jungle and they have to take one shot,
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but it's so intense and so good and
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he also did a film called The Specialist didn't do as well but it was a big
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budget film and I think that was kind of the film that pushed him away from
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Hollywood which was called The Specialist with James Woods, Sylvester Stallone
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and Sharon Stone good cast.
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I remember The Specialist yeah he did that one and then he left he does a lot
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of yeah like I said a lot of South American film and some stuff but good on him.
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It's too bad he never came back because in my eyes he's three for three but uh,
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we'll kind of jump into what went wrong with anaconda and the funny thing is
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you know what i don't think there's
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anything wrong with anaconda the movie cost about 45 million to make.
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And which seems like a lot when you see the film but i
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guess the animatronic snake and the cgi
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they did have to use again this is cgi in not
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edits it's still it's a better both
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it's still fairly young cgi and it
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cost like a hundred grand per five seconds for the snake or
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something like that that's nuts and but fortified estimate but it made 65 in
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the u.s plus all together worldwide 138 million so it's not yeah it was a commercial
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success yeah it was a commercial hit but to this day the funny thing is i think
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movies need to be re-reviewed and that's why i kind of like doing in this podcast.
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I've changed my thoughts on films, both ways. I used to like it growing up as
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a kid, now I hate it, or vice versa.
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And I'll tell you what, this has got a 4.9 on IMBD. That's not fair.
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I think that, you know, at different points in our lives, we will view films
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and different works of art with different eyes, and we will take away something different from them,
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you know, with different ages and at different points in our lives.
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So, I mean, certainly with Anaconda, I would give it a six at least.
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Yeah, I'd be a little higher, but I like creature features a lot.
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And the only difference is,
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Besides Jon Voight, I think most of the actors were playing this dead straight.
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And that's the one little flaw with the film.
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But let's just jump into it.
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We got a decent little cast. Jon Voight, we'll call him Baby Bird.
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Baby Bird. Baby Bird Paul. J-Lo as Terry. Owen Wilson as Gary.
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Eric Stoltz, Dr. Kale. Ice Cube as Danny.
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Danny Trejo as, well, he's just fucked.
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Yeah, he just blows his brains out at the start. That's what I would have done.
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Jonathan Hyde, who I like as Warren, and Carrie Werrer as Denise.
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She's beautiful. I love Carrie Werrer.
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Yeah. I like the opening scene. I like, we all know what the snake looks like.
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We see it in the trailers, but they never saw you the snake right away.
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No, they're never going to. Yeah.
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That's the right way. Yeah, exactly. What if it's not the snake?
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Maybe that's a misdirect.
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And we see Danny Trejo. And I do like the shot where they have the snake cam.
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So it's just slightly above the water as if the snake's popping up just above
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the water to check out the, you know, the surroundings.
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So they use that quite a bit and it works.
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One thing the film does right, and I mentioned this with Sniper a second ago,
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that he's used to filming in this kind of terrain.
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And this shows with this film, because him being from South America.
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Like I said, he knows the terrain, but he shoots really well.
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And when it's dark, you can see everything crystal clear. So he knows how to
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use lighting in this kind of terrain.
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When it's raining, he knows how to use the right camera.
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Underwater shots are beautiful. They're really nicely done and bright.
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So the DP and the director certainly know how to place the camera in this kind of terrain.
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I will say one thing. he has, while the CGI versions of the snake aren't,
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you know top standard but I say one thing they have the balls to actually show
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it during daytime scenes because a lot of times films when they know they have
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ruby CGI they will basically or special effects or whatever,
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they will basically make it featured during a nighttime scene so that they can
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sort of get away with certain things, but they have the balls here to give us it in broad daylight.
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Yeah, and that's what I applauded for. And most of the shots are with this animatronic snake.
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And this animatronic... It's not hidden? It's not hidden. This snake's in the
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whole film. Which I applauded for that.
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And the CGI could be a little... Some really cool CGI moments,
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like the waterfall scene I really like.
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But it's funny, but it works.
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But the snake is actually in the... I think it's the LA Film Institute.
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They actually have the actual snake in an exhibit that they used.
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The practical marking, obviously.
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And you know the practical is silly. It was still cool.
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Yeah, I mean, for what this is, you know, a sort of tongue-in-cheek sort of
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B-movie creature feature, it totally works for me.
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I think the problem is, like you sort of referenced earlier,
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I think that the memo wasn't given to some of the actors that this is a bit
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of a tongue-in-cheek, you know, nudge and wink to the audience,
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like J-Lo and Ice Cube and, you know, Eric Stoltz and stuff who are playing at Dead Straight.
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Yeah, that's really only the minor thing I have with the film, believe it or not.
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I mean, it's an hour and 29 minutes, and it doesn't overstay its welcome.
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And I applaud films like that. Some of them just fucking just end.
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And the movie starts off right away. It doesn't stop from there.
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There's no data dumping.
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It's just quick, quick, quick. We're on the river. Yeah, we're on the Amazon.
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And so they do a little nod to Jaws with this one because an anaconda's eyes
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are actually round like a shark's.
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Yeah. And what they decided to do was give it slant, you know,
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a slant pupils because it comes off more villainous.
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And this is what Steven Spielberg did with Jaws.
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He deliberately made the Jaws eyes the same. Well, because he wanted the shark
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to be more villainous looking when he did see the eyes.
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And so they, they changed the, what a shark actually would look like.
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Yeah. Which I didn't know. So there you go. And you know, anacondas do not attack
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people. They usually, well, they won't unless they're, they're provoked.
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I wouldn't fancy pumping into one. Let's just say, regardless of whether they attack people or not.
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I'll tell you what, you know, I, I, as what everyone knows in this podcast,
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I'm terrified of snakes.
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And this one, it wasn't because it's fake. You clearly know it's fake. and I enjoyed it.
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The scariest part for me is when they blew up the wall in the river and the
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actual snakes they used. Those things creep me out.
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Yes, they're like the baby snakes, basically. Baby snakes, yeah.
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And they're the ones we see some of them earlier on when John Voight is back
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to your mother, back to your mother. Yeah, yeah.
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Oh my God. But yeah, the genitreal thing I thought was fun because he's just
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a poacher and this is the time with Dan Trail really wasn't Danny Trail yet.
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And he...
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There's a shot where all this scene was pretty much to show you how powerful this creature is.
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And he's in the little cabin of the boat trying to hide from it.
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And the thing's bopping up the boards. And there's a nice slow motion shot with
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all the nails coming out of the board.
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The fly up, yeah. That fly up in the air as it stuns Danny Trejo.
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He's like, fuck, I got to get out of this cabin.
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And he crawls up to the crow's nest of the boat.
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And then we know the snake's just wrapping itself around the crow's nest as
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it's coming to him. and he takes his own life, which I would have done too.
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There's no way I'm not getting fucking swallowed.
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Well, it tells that there is a serious threat here where you would rather blow
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your own brains out than be basically eaten and then regurgitated, as we see later on.
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And this is why I reflect a bit. This is why we're talking about Anna Conner's
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2025 talk, and I don't want to jump ahead about 2025, but this is the one thing
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this film does, right? It shows you peril, and it has casualties.
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Well, the other one, you don't get that.
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I know. And that's the flaw. of Anaconda 2025, and we will certainly dive into that at the moment.
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Now, I feel sorry for Eric Stoltz. He gets fired from fucking Back to the Future,
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and then in this one, he's in the opening scenes, and then he gets bitten by
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a wasp in the throat, and then he's off camera now the rest of the movie.
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Well, I think there was something maybe going on there. I don't know all the details,
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but it appears that maybe he was only, and I could be completely wrong here,
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but I sort of got the sense that maybe he was only available for certain days
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during the shoot, so they had to come up with something.
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They didn't want to lose him, so they had to come up with something where he
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would basically be off screen for a lot of the time
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i don't know but i did get that sense yeah
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because he's kind of a get yeah oh you know at
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this time he was more of a character actor he was a lead actor in the 80s but
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then he kind of went more you know really fun cameos like pulp fiction would
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be a perfect example yeah indie films yeah indie stuff nothing wrong with that
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at all i like it he was in one i remember which was very much Tarantino-esque,
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but it wasn't Tarantino, although I think he might have produced it.
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I know what you're talking about. Killing Zoe.
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That's a great film. It wasn't Tarantino. It was Lawrence Bender,
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who's producer, who's Tarantino's producer for. Yeah, I think Tarantino might
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have been executive producer or something.
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You know, give permission to use his name type thing. It's a French film.
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No, it's Lawrence Bender. Lawrence Bender is the right-hand man. Judy Delpy.
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Lawrence Bender is the right-hand man of Tarantino. He produces all this stuff.
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In the early days, yeah. Yeah, so they said from the producer of Pulp Fiction.
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Which is Lawrence Bender but yeah it's a really good film you guys should check
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it out it's about a bank robbery yeah Bankrabby gone wrong yeah.
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But yeah, so Dr. Cale Stoltz here, he's looking for the Shimmy Shama tribe, the people of the mist.
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And so he's, and then he hires J-Lo to be the director. Warren is the narrator,
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the English accent, of course.
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And Danny is the DP, because I always believe Ice Cube is a director of photography.
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And then Denise, the production manager, and Gary, the sound guy.
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It's so funny seeing a young- The third guy, Owen Wilson, I think it is,
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sticks out as, for me, I think this is, He's the weak point of this film?
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Yeah, but he gets the best death. And we'll talk about it. Yeah,
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he does get a good death. Well, Voight gets a good one.
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That's another thing. Good deaths. Yeah. Good deaths. Memorable deaths. And this was PG-13.
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Yeah, this was PG-13. It wasn't a R. They had some sound dubs they had to change
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from Ice Cube from swearing too much.
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So he says freaking a lot, but he's actually saying fucking.
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But they wanted a PG, this kind of PG-13. And yet what I saw yesterday was a PG-13, technically.
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And nothing like this. I know that.
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This is, you know, there's just a world of difference.
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I don't know. There's something about films, modern films now,
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where they don't feel like films.
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You know, I know, obviously, they're shooting on digital and stuff compared
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to where they were shooting on film back certainly in the 90s and stuff.
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But I don't know, this just felt more like an actual movie, an actual film,
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compared to the new one, which just felt like almost like an episode of a TV show or something.
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That's pretty much, you're right, it's the digital technology.
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The digital 10, 4K and all is so crispy clear.
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It's too crisp and clear. It's too crisp and clear. It's almost like you're
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watching a Hollyoaks episode or EastEnders or Dallas or Notchland,
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a TV show, which is how they shoot those. Thank you.
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Yeah, but anyway, so I've got some bad one-liners.
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Gary, is it me or does the jungle make you horny? You know, really?
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Yeah, the dialogue here isn't the best. No, I'm alone with. Oh yeah, you cannot.
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And then this movie resurrected John Voight. John Voight's career was over.
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He was gone for quite a few years. He burned some bridges in Hollywood and then
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he got this role and then it just snowballed. He ends up being the bad guy and everything.
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And he, and good on him. And this is the same time where I believe Angela Jolie,
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his daughter, got the Oscar.
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She was starting to rise as a star, yeah. She just got the Oscar for Girl Interrupted, I believe.
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Yeah. She was in things like Hackers and stuff. Yeah, she did small roles. The Anaconda.
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Has a voice. Do you know who does the voice of the Anaconda? No. It's Frank Welker.
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Oh, yes, sorry. Yes, I did. I heard that. He does the voice of Scooby-Doo and Megatron.
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That's right, yes. Yes, I did know that.
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I think it's funny the Anaconda speaks. Well, it doesn't speak.
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It just goes whatever it does. Yeah, it's not really talking.
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It's not sentient. Well, maybe it is, but it's not having a chat with them,
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you know, but at those sort of make noises type things. Snake noises.
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You know what works for the film? It's when they pick up Paul, who's stranded, right?
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And the minute they pick him up, they all know he's up to something.
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Everybody does. They all do. But no, that's what I like about it.
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They're not dumb. They're not clueless, so they are keeping a watch on him, especially Dr.
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Kale, who calls him out about the Shishimi tribe when they worship snakes.
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And we should go this direction. And he says, no, we should go this direction
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because of this. You're wrong.
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He knows something's not right here.
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As an audience member, maybe, you know, I mean, you sort of know fine rightly,
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you know, but you also know that both these characters are going to get it in
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really gruesome ways later on, and you're looking forward to it.
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You know, it's what you expect, and they do give us it.
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You know, as you would do in the normal circumstances, when it's dark as fuck
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out, and you're in the middle of Amazon, where all the deadliest creatures live,
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you take your girlfriend and you go have sex with her.
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Yeah. What the fuck?
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When you have a perfectly good, basically, room in the boat,
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where you get shagged to your heart's content, without the threat of being killed
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by all sorts of jungle wildlife.
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But the plot has to be forwarded, I do need some like threat.
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They do this because they're getting attacked and you think it's the snake but
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it's not. You can hear it. It's a boar.
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And Paul shoots it. So this gives Paul like, oh, they need him.
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You know what I mean? It's kind of like that moment where even though he's up
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to something, they technically need him.
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But even J-Lo says something, okay, or he says something like,
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she says, maybe we shouldn't be fucking in the middle of the night in the Amazon.
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How's that sound? Yeah. Yeah, well Also, I have to ask See when Eric Stoltz
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gets it with this insect thing Wasp, yeah Was that set up?
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Yes By John Voight? Yeah, Paul missed it at the end,
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Yeah, I thought that. He put the wasp in his mask. He was looking at him offside.
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He put the wasp in his mask or something like that.
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Yeah, he was looking at him offside. Yeah.
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He was too smart, basically, Eric Stoltz, and he would basically have hindered
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his plans to catch the big snake.
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And that's what I like about it. It keeps that continuity because when he tells
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them, okay, we got to get the dock back, we need to stay away from the current and go this way.
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Makes sense. so they go this way and then there's a wall in what we just talked
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about the wall there and and it didn't not Denise what's JLo game again,
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let's call it fucking JLo Terry goes right away you know this like the place
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like you know this route like the back of your hand you didn't know there's
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a fucking wall there yeah I mean.
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All the signs are there although it does play them well and that he actually
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makes them believe that they also need him for the directions to get Eric Stoltz
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home, even though we set it up.
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But also, you know, for things like, you know, saving them from the boar and other things like that.
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Yeah, he's kind of quite clever actually. Yeah, he's putting him in situations
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that he's causing but he's doing it to make him look like a hero.
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I absolutely love the facial expressions of Jon Voight in this.
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Oh yeah, it looks like he's taking a dump.
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He's literally queuing the scenery almost you know,
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he's wincing he's wincing like Clint Eastwood all the time yeah but Clint Eastwood
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does well he knows the score here you know as an actor he is going full on pantomime
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villain he literally winks at the audience later on whenever he gets he gets eaten.
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Yeah it's a very simple story I'm probably really overselling it but I'll tell
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you what I'll tell you what.
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I can say I'll hold true to this but people should review this because everyone
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loves this movie I talk to people oh we love Anaconda but when it came out it just got ripped on,
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it's like the thing the thing was critically panned now it's like an 8.2 on
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IMD and the most one most beloved sci-fi films of all time I think people need
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and that's the only thing good about Anaconda 2025.
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People might revisit this now and go, you know what? And maybe we will get a
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sequel. That'd be kind of fun. I'd be up for it.
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Yeah, a proper sequel to this film, not this reimagined sort of meta new version
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of the book with Jack Black and Paul Rudd. Nah.
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But yeah, he... But Paul's... And that's where the movie is.
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He puts him in this situation but then gets him out. He looks like the hero.
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He's the one who caused Paul's little bug bite, but yet he's the one who saves him.
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He's manipulating the situation Yes,
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He's winning them over He's trying to win them over Yes And by catching the
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big fish Remember he catches the fish He catches the fish Yes Eye with the spear
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Yeah That's how I do it Because he's Rambo Yeah That's how I do it,
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And then go see We go to the poachers You know Danny Trello's place In the beginning
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And we see this picture Of Mateo I love Mateo He's the driver right And you
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got Mateo And when Paul comes on the screen,
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Mateo looks, it's like, dun, dun, dun, dun.
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Yeah. They look at each other and he's like, oh yeah, they're not linked.
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It's so obvious. Like, you know, I mean, the camera literally zooms in on his
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face and he gives it, you know, the sort of weird look.
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It's the same thing as the dog with the shifty eyes. I know something. Yeah. Yeah.
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I do like his death because when a snake wraps around him, it moves his neck
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and then twists him to break his neck.
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Yes. No one caught that. I just caught that for the first time I've watched
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it. He actually breaks his neck. It's pretty creepy. Yeah. Yes.
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Who the hell wants a snake for a pet? The fuck?
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I know people who keep snakes for pets, and I have been in their houses,
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and I have allowed the snakes to wrap around my neck and stuff,
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but obviously they're very tame and safe snakes,
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and I was just doing it basically for a bit of a laugh but to be honest in the
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past I've done it and went drunk but yeah I mean generally with creepy crawlies
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and snakes and all that sort of thing I wouldn't keep them as pets let's just say yeah,
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not my thing yeah fuck them.
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So Gary turns I don't know he kind of makes a point he goes we're stuck here
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we catch the snake we'll make some money out of it we're here,
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you know, we may as well get something out of it it kind of goes off to,
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it's a bit of a leap for his character, yeah and it did have a sort of, it's not a big thing,
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but it did have a sort of a small issue with the fact that, you know,
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he's sort of portrayed at first as just this horny
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sort of guy who's kind of harmless, but then all of a sudden he's a complete
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dick, you know yeah, but he jumps in he sacrifices himself to save Denise So that kind of helps.
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He has a sort of character arc. Yes. I mean, we got to find something.
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Self-sacrifice. There you go. But that whole sequence, when they take over the
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boat, Paul and Gary, and-
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You got, again, the well shot. You got the fog lights. You got the fog coming in.
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But everything's so clear. You can see everything crisp. And it's really nicely shot.
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And it's just the whole setup.
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Obviously, it's a stage boat and all that kind of stuff. But it's really well
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done. Even better by today's standards.
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They just CGI all this crap now. Exactly.
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Exactly. These days, a large bulk of that would all be just green screen.
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With actors, you know, acting against nothing, basically.
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But here, it's all, apart from the Rupi CGI snake in certain scenes,
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here it's all sort of, it's all real.
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The creepiest scene in the entire film is Gary's death.
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And it's when he gets wrapped by the snake and he gets pulled on there and then
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he comes back up and we have a close up of him wrapped around the snake and
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he goes, and you can hear him still breathing, like as he's being pulled under again.
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It's a really creepy shot. But the creepy shot is about a minute after they're
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talking and Denise is crying because her boyfriend's been eaten by a snake, as you do.
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And we see the snake underwater, again, clear as fuck, and it's coming toward
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the camera, and we see its belly.
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But the belly is the outline of fucking Owen Wilson.
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His face? I was just about to say that. Yeah. Yeah, it's quite a good effect.
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I mean, it's not the best sort of realized effect.
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Oh, come on. It doesn't have to be. The general concept works well.
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It's the idea of what a snake does.
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Yes, exactly. That's what I'm talking about. The idea of it that's planted in your head.
25:28
I love a scene where Terry decides right after Gary's death,
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she's going to flirt with Paul.
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Oh, yeah. You can help us. She gets a lipstick on. Yeah. What's the setup?
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And I do like the fact Paul was onto her. Like, you know what?
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Fuck off. And he was about to be ambushed by Danny.
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And he catches on and puts the gun to his face. Fuck off. But we end up,
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Warren ends up saving the day with the golf club. But that's right.
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Come on. Do you really think he was, Captain Paul was buying into this shit?
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No, no, well, he's supposed to be a lot smarter than basically all of them, or certainly craftier.
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So I doubt he would fall for that, but he doesn't really. You know,
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he knows something's up.
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The only one who had a decent little arc was Warren, the narrator.
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Because when you first meet him, he's got his coach bags, he's got his good wine.
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And he's a dick. Yeah, he's a dick. He's yelling at the porter. He's an arsehole.
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Yeah, he's an arsehole. But once he knocks Paul in the head at the golf club,
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he puts the bandana around his head. He's taking over the boat.
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He's got balls. He's courage. You know, he's got a lot of courage.
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He teaches Ice Cube hard to drive the boat and stuff.
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He's in with them and they're friends, basically. Yes. Yeah.
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So I do like that. The characters here are okay.
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Denise and Gary just there for extra body count.
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Oh, my God. Denise Defts is the best. That is the stupidest.
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She's going to go stab. Paul because she blames him for Gary's death while the
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other two idiots are swimming in the fucking lake.
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And Janice goes up to him and he's tied up. He can't go anywhere.
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His legs. He does a ninja move. Yeah.
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First of all, I can't see John Voight doing this. But so she walks up to him with the knife.
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I'm going to kill you. He's like, oh yeah, baby bird.
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And he wraps it. He jumps up in the air with his, he's tied behind the pole or something.
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He does a fucking Van Damme move, and then he strangles her with his legs.
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Yeah, yeah. And she's like, ugh.
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Yeah, and then she falls overboard type thing. Yeah, he kicks her over.
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Yeah. There's a nice shot when the snake goes to apeshit, and this is when Warren
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gets it. He goes into the UK. He has to climb away from it.
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Again, courage, because he leads the snake away from them, and he climbs up this waterfall.
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And then as he jumps out of the waterfall at last minute, because he has no
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choice, he's got to jump from the waterfall. Snake gets it.
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The snake comes down, wraps around him. It's a nice shot, actually.
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He's probably the better of the CGI shots, and wraps around him.
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The weight of the tree is so heavy, the tree comes crashing down and causes havoc.
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Then the snake's in there with him. Paul is dead at this point.
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We see Denise's body floating around as he tries to eat Denise and Ice Cube
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and Danny at the same time.
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Takes a really nice little chaos seat.
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Yeah. And then you got a lot of that cool stuff. And like I said,
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it's an hour and 29 minutes.
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The movie doesn't stop. If anyone likes at all a creature feature,
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there's no way this should be as hailed as it's getting.
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It works totally for me, for what it is.
28:41
People need to be less snooty and accept things.
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You know, there seems to be a lack of understanding as well about what they're trying to do here.
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Yes, J-Lo's maybe taking it a bit too serious and her acting's a bit ropey,
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but so what? It's a B-movie.
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It's about a giant snake attacking people and killing people.
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Take it for what it is. And you'll enjoy it better I certainly have no major
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issues with it I did enjoy it and like it.
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The big showdown. It wasn't a factory. I think it was an old fueling station for boats.
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Yeah. Yes. Basically, that's what it was. Where they were trying to get basically the fuel.
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Because don't forget a couple of their barrels of fuel they lost as well.
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Yeah. And they have to, he pours monkey blood all over him, which is cool.
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That's bait. Yeah. And then as the snake wraps around Danny and Terry,
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which is so funny. Come on.
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But again, you're going with it. You're just having good fun.
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Jon Voight's like, give me that look.
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He's going to get you. And then Jon Voight gets it. He gets wrapped around as
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he's going up the steps. I like that shot.
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And Jon Voight's death is just creepy. Because it shows you what a snake does.
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And then you see, they cut it out.
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There's actually a shot of his eyeball coming out. but they had to remove it.
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Oh, they cut that out? Oh, that's not good. Yeah. I'd like to see that.
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Yeah. Because you see, because when he, there's a POV shot within the snake's
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mouth looking down at, which is actually very good.
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It's actually quite creepy looking at down at John Voight who's about to swallow
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him and then it cuts back to John Voight and his eyeball's gone.
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And then later on, shortly after, whenever he is basically regurgitated and
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he's got all snake slime and all over him, he winks.
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Yeah. He winks, he baby bird.
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It's yeah I mean that's basically Voight you know,
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literally wanking at the audience saying don't take it too seriously you know
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having a bit of a laugh here and the chimney shot was really nice when she's trying to get,
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she's going up she has to jump off she has to jump off when she's trying to
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get you know and Danny's got to take the pickaxe and stop it through the tail
30:55
that was clever how to stop it for a bit yeah.
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And and then when it doesn't give us a final skirt as well it comes back Yeah,
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and it does, but the whole explosion with the chimney, and then as you see the
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whole, the explosions here are quite nice, the chimney scene and the dam scene.
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And so when the chimney blows, then you see the snake on fire too coming out.
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It's pretty clever. And the snake falls in the water, but the snake's still
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alive. It goes underneath the water, but then it comes back like a third time.
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Now there was two of them. Is there a continuity error? There was two,
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there's two snakes in this film.
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Yeah. Yeah, because they kill the one at the waterfall. Is that being confirmed? Yes, there is.
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Because they blow the head off, the first one in the fall.
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The second one is the one that looks like it's healed and all.
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It's not. It's a different snake.
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Yeah. I think it's blacker, that second one. Because it did sort of...
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I was like, whatever Ice Cube originally stabs it in the head and all the rest.
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He might shoot it in the head as well, I think.
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But then... No, she shoots...
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She shoots it twice in the face, blows its eyes out and shit. Yes.
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But then it comes back later on. This is a different snake. This is a different
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snake. That's okay. Yeah. I need that confirmed. Yeah. Okay.
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Oh, yeah, because that would have been terrible.
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It would have been bad. Because I was thinking, right, I know this is like,
32:19
you know, it's all tongue in cheek and all, but come on, a bit of continuity.
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But yeah, so yeah, I was thinking that it might have been a second snake. So yeah, that's fine.
32:28
So after everyone's safe, and this is me, just for fun.
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I wish the director just said, fuck it, let's do this.
32:39
So as they're sailing back to home, and Dr.
32:45
Kale is back, and they're looking outside, and there's the Shira Shama tribe
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that they've been looking for this whole time.
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He's like, oh, my God, Paul was right. I think it would have been awesome if
32:59
the shimmy shaman tried to attack them and they were cannibals and cannibal
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holocaust I was thinking cannibal
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holocaust anyway for a lot of this and then just like the end yeah,
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and then they not just cannibalize them they sacrifice them to their snake god
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the anaconda who they worship or something like that that would be perfect,
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yeah but this this this brings us to to anaconda 2025 and yeah i'm i knew i
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was going i was going to go in i knew going in it was going to be bad but i
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went out going okay it wasn't as bad.
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The thing is i'm trying to be
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fair to it in terms of we are not the target audience that's the problem,
33:46
I thought... It's a family film. Yeah. We went to see this, and they all played
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animation films before the movie started.
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All Pixar. Yeah, like Mario and Toy Story 5 and stuff. Yeah.
33:57
The trailers. I turned to you and I said, oh boy.
33:59
I knew this was... And then it came up 12A. It was like, oh shit.
34:04
Was it even a 12A? It was 12A. No, it was 12A. A PG maybe? It was 12A.
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Was it? Okay. Yeah. So PG in the US.
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And so right there, uh oh so there it goes maybe that's why Nick Cage didn't
34:20
want to do it even the audience.
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Apparently Nick Cage wanted to be a John Voight character, which he would have been perfect for,
34:31
essentially maybe he would have been the steak wrangler yeah,
34:34
yeah, but they didn't want to do that and they obviously wanted to go down this
34:38
route of having a very family friendly, safe,
34:43
gentle comedy that pertains to be agey but isn't really exactly very very safe.
34:49
And you know so I don't want to be too harsh because I and certainly I don't
34:54
think you are the target audience but I it's not the type of film I would be in too let's just say.
35:01
You know it should have worked really worked well because it's the same it's
35:04
Tom Cormican who I actually like he's a screenwriter but he also wrote the new
35:09
Beverly Hills Cop Axl F which I enjoyed but he also directed a film called The
35:13
Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent which is Nicolas Cage playing Nicolas Cage and it's just like this.
35:21
It's, and so I thought, my only thing is, and I don't want to say he did,
35:26
because I don't know if he did or not.
35:28
Sounds like he might have had a sellout, because there's an edginess to it.
35:32
To the unbearable weight of massive talent. There's an edginess to it.
35:36
And it's adult humor, but younger Johnny Race, you can get it too.
35:41
The problem is, fucking Hollywood needs to understand, people aren't stupid. I know.
35:45
Kids aren't stupid either. Kids aren't stupid either. Kids can go with,
35:48
you know, potty mouth once in a while.
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Edgy stuff. Edgy stuff, you know, American pie, stuff like that.
35:55
People aren't going to be offended by that anymore.
35:57
So I don't get why you couldn't give us happy media.
36:00
Because we're in the audience, and there was a lot of kids there,
36:03
believe it or not, young teens. Young boys, especially.
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A lot of boys. Like 12-year-old boys and stuff. And I'll tell you what,
36:08
in all fairness, the only one laughing in that cinema I heard was me.
36:11
I laughed at some of the lines. Nobody else was really laughing.
36:14
I wasn't. Oh, I know. You look scared, actually. I was more eye-rolling.
36:20
Here's the concept, guys. Now, if you haven't seen Anaconda,
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who gives a fuck? I'm really not spoiling anything.
36:27
It is about a group of old friends who get together, who are not happy with
36:31
their current life situations, and they decide to remake their favorite film
36:35
from 1997, which is Anaconda.
36:38
We got Paul Rudd, who plays Ronald. Jack Black plays Doug.
36:41
Thaddee Newton, who plays Claire. Steve Zahn plays Kenny. good cast.
36:45
Then you got two characters, Adia and the scene stealer who sounds like was
36:49
supposed to be played by Nicholas Cates. It's a character called Santiago.
36:53
He plays the snake wrangler. He's the best in it. He is.
36:58
It's got some great moments. I think the first half's better than the second half.
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You say great moments? Yeah. Well, no. I do like when you're introduced to Ronald,
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who's an out-of-work actor.
37:10
He's playing this doctor in this scene. and he's so bad at it.
37:15
And he's trying to do these, like the English accent. He goes,
37:18
I don't know what accent that was, but try it again, please.
37:20
And can you speak slower?
37:21
And the next scene, he's speaking really too slow. The next scene, he's speaking too fast.
37:26
It's moments like that that I,
37:29
you know that i like that i really i think paul i think
37:32
the problem with this is paul rudd has no
37:35
interest in it overall like a lot of the actors sandy newton as well where they
37:41
seem to be have you know maybe the original script was a bit more edgier so
37:46
that's why they signed on but then after it went through all of the studio bullshit
37:49
and rewrites and stuff they decided you know what this is kind of a waste of our time,
37:55
but we're contracted to do it, so they're just going through the motions,
38:00
which was a long-winded way of me saying that.
38:03
Well, you know, Ronald, who's the actor, Doug, who's the wedding film,
38:07
the wedding video guy. Whoa. Excuse me, I just burped there.
38:12
Lovely, right? Well, you know what? You know what? After seeing fucking Anna
38:16
Connery 2025 and spending about 34 quid to see that fucking movie,
38:20
I ended up, I had to buy a new a coffee maker and so
38:23
then i had to take cab home right away because the fuckers
38:26
in amazon delivered my coffee maker a day
38:29
early so i was just sitting there on the doorstep and it's the exact same with
38:33
me yesterday as well i was waiting on boots and bear in mind it was a damp day
38:36
in belfast and as soon as i got home as expected there was a box of boots just
38:41
dumped out in in the wet they were all right but you know not that you know
38:45
amazon give a shit whether they were all right or not.
38:49
Yeah, and it's not even in a box, like a brown box labeled Amazon.
38:54
It's a big box. It's the coffee maker box. So people know exactly what they're going to be stealing.
39:00
If you were a thief and you were walking past, it might as well say on those boxes, please steal me.
39:06
So I had to pay 18 quid for a cab to get home in time to grab it.
39:10
Fuck you. I was like, assholes. I don't know if it's a subject here, but.
39:15
Well. Yeah, I just suppose we are. But yeah, we got Ronald, played by Paul Rudd,
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who's the out-of-work actor.
39:23
We got Doug, who's Jack Black. He's the wedding video guy.
39:27
Claire, she's the divorcee. And Kenny, he's just the idiot. I like Steve Young.
39:31
I like everyone in it. I have nothing against anybody in it.
39:34
But this movie was casted not even a few months ago.
39:38
So this movie was fucking rushed. And yet, it's made its money.
39:42
The only good thing about making a movie like this, and because it's successful,
39:46
and here's what I don't like I don't like the fact this is getting a 6.1 in
39:51
IMBD and the original Anaconda is getting a 4.9, that makes no fucking sense
39:55
Totally agree, yeah I mean.
39:58
It just says a lot about movie audiences these days and the expectations and
40:03
also reviewers, you know like mainstream reviewers and stuff it just speaks volumes,
40:08
and you know I don't want to be too harsh but it really wasn't for me and I
40:14
just don't think it worked,
40:16
on pretty much all levels.
40:17
Let's talk about a couple of scenes that work and some don't.
40:20
I want to be fair to it. I'm not going to... I do think...
40:23
The Squatch, their movie they made back when they were kids was fucking hilarious.
40:29
That was a bit cringe for me. Oh, no, no. And I think there's a statement there,
40:34
because I think this film was heavily edited and was, hey, because you need
40:40
a swearing in this. Come on.
40:41
I never like films when you put people in peril and they're about to be eaten
40:44
by a snake and they're going, golly, gee, fuck that. I'm going fucking apeshit.
40:49
Well, they're literally bleeping it out with this sort of video we made whenever
40:53
the teenagers I think that's a point that the director was making because they
40:56
say before they played the quatch video for Doug's birthday he goes,
41:02
unfortunately this is edited because it was for a school project and we couldn't
41:05
have all the swearing the school made them do it or something the school made
41:08
them edit the project so it's funny because it's all bleeping and there's no
41:12
need for all that swearing anyway but and then even even.
41:17
Even Ronald says God we really were into Scorsese that year,
41:22
because they're just consistently swearing and but they edited the project and
41:27
I think that was a way the director going we could have gave you more but we were told we had to edit,
41:33
You know, I know you shouldn't be, you know, you should be reviewing what we're actually given.
41:40
But in a perfect world, this should have been a hard 18 creature feature with
41:48
loads of gore and a giant snake going about ripping people's heads off and stuff.
41:52
That would have been a better homage to the 1997 one.
41:57
Instead, we've got this stupid family film. I do like some of the misdirects,
42:01
the Anna character. and it's being traced what we think is drug smugglers.
42:06
But they can't even say that because it's a family film. No,
42:10
no, no, no. They do. No, no, no, no. That's not fair.
42:13
That's misjudging it. No, they talk about the gold destroying some of the Amazon,
42:19
and they end up, they're gold smugglers.
42:21
And so that's planted. That's okay.
42:24
And so I do like that misdirect. I do like the fact, Anna, you're kind of rooting
42:28
for her, but we don't know she's actually the bad guy. The only problem is,
42:33
once it's revealed, the execution of how it ends is poor.
42:37
It's stupid? Yeah. I mean...
42:40
Because it's somebody knocked out. We won't get into every scene. There's no point.
42:44
They even play on the whole, you know, you piss on your foot for the jellyfish.
42:48
I think Friends did a whole episode on it.
42:51
Yeah. It's kind of a myth. I don't know what, but there's a scene where.
42:56
The jokes don't land. Yeah. The problem is they wouldn't stop.
43:00
So there's a scene where he gets bit by a spider or whatever.
43:04
Pee on it. Oh, yeah. I heard you just have to pee on it. And nobody.
43:07
It goes on for ages and ages. Yeah, it went on, but it's because Ronald goes, my bladder is empty.
43:13
And Claire goes, I'm in a onesie. That was kind of funny.
43:17
And Kenny can't pee in front of people. He can't pee in public bathrooms.
43:22
And he has to sit. I mean, it is kind of funny.
43:27
And then there's a nice shot where, again, stealing from classics like Deep
43:31
Blue Sea, where Doug is giving the speech and apologizing to Ronald.
43:36
And then all of a sudden he gets engulfed by the snake and thrown up in the
43:40
air and we don't see it coming it's a good jump scare, I heard people in the
43:44
audience going screaming, it was a good jump scare, but again,
43:48
the ending of that whole thing is ruined by Doug actually surviving this, it's...
43:53
I knew it was going to happen, yeah, well they give that away in the trailer,
43:57
that's the other thing I didn't even watch the trailer for this,
43:59
but apparently it gives the whole film away.
44:01
I mean, comedy, it's all about timing and delivery
44:05
and all of that and I just don't think while some of the jokes in concept are
44:11
funny like the whole jellyfish pissing thing and stuff and you know the whole
44:16
later on with Jack Black with the pig's sort of head on top of them and stuff
44:19
in concept they don't land here because of the delivery and,
44:25
I felt anyway, you know? No, the problem is the jokes run long.
44:30
That's the problem. Well, again, it's about timing. Yeah, comedy's all about
44:33
timing as well. The pissing is funny, but I don't need to watch it for 10 minutes.
44:36
I know. Yeah. They drag a lot of them out, and it just becomes.
44:41
Oh, I just get on with it for fuck's sake. Well, I do. You know what?
44:45
I never fall asleep in the cinema, but I was finding myself drifting off at this.
44:49
Yeah, the movie's a little long, which is weird. We should be enjoying ourselves.
44:54
Guys, I know we're ripping on it. It's not terrible. It's not a piece of shit
44:57
like I thought it'd be, but it's not good.
45:00
If you're like a 10-year-old boy, you might find it fun. I don't think they would either.
45:05
I think they were kind of like rolling their eyes. Yeah.
45:09
I mean, when you're a 10-year-old boy, you want to see creatures eating things.
45:11
You want to see a creature creature. You want gore?
45:14
You want gore? And the problem is another problem. Some reviewers I've read
45:18
on said the problem is the opening setup is fine, but the act when they're actually
45:24
being attacked there should be some peril there's no peril at all,
45:29
you know who does this kind of humor right for horror Fright Night,
45:33
the original Fright Night Gremlins, the original Gremlins Lost Boys,
45:37
they know how to implement.
45:40
You could be kitty-like banter, but you can twist the knife in a little bit
45:44
by changing the genre on you and play, give us some scares.
45:49
What the fuck is wrong with that? Because there's no scares.
45:51
There's that one jump scare, which I told you about, which is,
45:53
you know, that's it, one and done.
45:55
It just, it didn't know where to go. It didn't know where to go.
45:59
But there- It was, there are, I think, being fair, some good ideas on paper
46:05
here, but again, it goes back to the realization and it just,
46:10
I personally don't think they put it off at all.
46:12
I think going back to their school project that was edited by the school because
46:18
of the swearing, I think he does it again here.
46:21
I think the director felt a little restricted by Sony.
46:26
And there's a shot where they're in their little boat and they're doing a couple
46:30
of scenes from Anaconda.
46:32
And this big, huge, fucking fancy-ass yacht boat comes by and it's an actual film crew.
46:38
And they're like, what are you doing here? Oh, we're remaking Anaconda.
46:42
Oh, what? And this is when they find out Ronald was lying. He doesn't have the
46:46
rights. That he doesn't have the rights. By the way, I saw that coming a mile away.
46:49
Yeah. But the assistant director says, he goes, really? You're remaking Anaconda?
46:57
And she goes, yeah, there's no more originality in Hollywood anymore.
47:02
I think that is also a jab at the studio because there's something going on
47:07
here where his work went from an R to a PG-13 to a fucking PG.
47:13
There's no way this was written,
47:16
Not a little more R-rated. There's no way. I don't know what was going on,
47:21
but it would not surprise me in the slightest if the studio said,
47:25
if there was a more edgier, sort of gorier original script of this,
47:30
and the studio said, no, we want loads of changes to make it family-friendly.
47:35
That wouldn't surprise me at all. I don't know if that's true or not,
47:38
but that's certainly what we've got here. A family-friendly piece of nonsense.
47:44
That, yeah. Well, let's talk about the ending then. Yeah, I will say this.
47:49
Ben Stiller would have made this better. He did Tropic Thunder.
47:52
And he did Cable Guy.
47:56
Both films are edgy, but they're not over the top to where everyone can be offended.
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It's about knowing what you're doing in terms of comedy.
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And Stiller knows what he's doing. It's timing and casting. Yeah.
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There's a lot of elements. Something was wrong here. But let's talk about the
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ending, the big finale. And I got a big question here.
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So Ice Cube is back. He plays Ice Cube.
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And he's on the set of the remake of Anaconda, or the sequel to Anaconda.
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Yes. And he's the only survivor on the set. It's all destroyed.
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All of us have been attacked by this big snake.
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And he comes and makes a cameo. Some funny moments when they want to take a
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selfie with him. I thought that was kind of funny.
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You know, again, very far and few between. But it works.
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And Ice Cube says, well, I'm playing Danny, my character, in the first Anaconda.
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But I got to go. Why? I got to find Eric Stoltz and Jennifer Lopez. Actors stick together.
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And Ronald goes, yeah, actors code. Actors code. Actors code.
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And then he leaves to go save them.
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Here's what I don't get. At the end of the film, Doug gets a knock on the door,
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and there's Jennifer Lopez.
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Good on both of them for showing up, making a cameo.
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But J-Lo goes, hey, Doug, I saw your work on the Anaconda remake,
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the one that you weren't supposed to make because you didn't have copyright. right?
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She goes, yeah, well, we're going to remake Anaconda. No, we're going to do
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a sequel to Anaconda. We want you to direct.
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And he faints. Right? He got his big break.
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But weren't they remaking it? Weren't they doing the sequel...
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I got the impression that this was, that the one that Ice Cube was in,
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that they were all massacred at, but we don't see it, sadly,
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was basically like a remake.
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And the one that J-Lo shows up at the end was going to be the sequel to their remake. I thought that.
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At this point, I didn't give a single fuck.
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That's where I got confused because he goes, I have to go and save my peeps.
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I have to go save J-Lo and Eric Stoltz, right?
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Yes. Which she clearly survives because she's in the ending when she goes to see Doug.
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But she says, we're going to do a sequel to Anaconda.
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Well, weren't you doing the sequel? Because you were on the set.
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Because Ice Cube went to look for you. I think she meant the sequel to the remake.
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I don't care, you know. Okay. I was doing the sequel. Okay.
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I thought she said, don't lose any sleep over this. I know, but that's a really
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bad, you know what I mean?
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It should have been made more clear. Yes. Okay.
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I don't know. Yeah. I just thought they could have given us a little more gore.
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I mean, it could have even been funny gore.
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You know, give us Jesus. Yeah, B-movie.
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If they had done it in the same tone as the 1997 original with actual...
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Sort of, you know, tongue-in-cheek sort of gore and silliness.
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But here we're getting family-friendly, kid-friendly silliness,
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which just wants me to just bang my head off a wall.
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Yeah. So there you go. We're not going to talk much more about it.
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There's no point. It's not offensive. And that's the problem.
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I didn't hear it. It's just bland. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's not shit.
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But it's not good. It sort of is shit, to be fair. Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm surprised you don't like it then No,
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but There's a certain type This is just bland shit You know what,
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it is completely That's what I would say, it is completely forgettable It's
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just You'll forget about it About an hour later.
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Yeah, well, there you go. So it's up to you if you want to see it.
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People are going to see it. It's doing well.
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But again, we were- There's something else you're going to watch anyway. It's January.
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And that we were surrounded by families and kids' birthday parties, it looked like.
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So that's who it's for. And that's why they're making their money.
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And so, you know, fair play. Hopefully, this will get us, because it's doing
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so well, it will actually get us an actual sequel to Anaconda with the original
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cast, which I would love to see. I'd be up for that.
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And bring back the original director he deserves it alright so there you go,
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massive pass for Anaconda and uh for the reboot sequel slash whatever it was,
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for the original 97 yes 100% a pass for the,
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remake-y type thing whatever it is this new one I just don't care you know alright
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that's it guys we're done that was a special treat for you guys We didn't see that one coming.
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Anaconda double bill. You're welcome. Like a snake sneaking up on you without your knowledge.
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Well, not the Anaconda in the 97 one because it talks.
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Oh, look, here comes the snake. Yeah. Like the Sark in Jaws 4 The Revenge. It screams.
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It sounds like a lion alright and it's a guy from Scooby Doo does the voice
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of the snake so what word do you want I was waiting for the snake to go we go ready,
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Scrappy Doo to pop up oh god no that would be in the that would be in Ataconda 2025,
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the Scrappy Doo ruined fucking Scooby Doo well here's the thing about Scrappy
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Doo because I was very small whenever I watched the Scrappy Doo episodes of Scooby Doo that he's in.
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I always liked Scrappy-Doo, and I've always liked him since.
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So, I have a soft spot for Scrappy-Doo, and I think he gets a rough ride,
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but I get why people hate him as well. If you can hate him, ruin Scooby-Doo.
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I get it, but at the same time, when I first discovered Scrappy-Doo as a young boy, I liked him.
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Alright, next up, guys, Running Man.
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Running Man? Plural? Running Man. Well, those are going to be two separate podcasts.
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Because they're, You know, there's a lot more depth. There's a lot to talk about.
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There's a lot of depth in those ones. Well.
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Kind of the original, Arnie. It's just the new issue of Phantasmagoria.
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The new issue of Phantasmagoria. The Dialect Special. The Dialect Special is
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