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- 0:10Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show with the hosts Adam Todd
- 0:15Speaker 1: Brown and Conne mcspaden.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown.
- 0:30Speaker 3: I'm connorm Spedding. What's up, Adam?
- 0:31Speaker 2: You time the drinking of the water better this time.
- 0:34Speaker 3: I became very cognizant of it, remembering the fiasco that
- 0:39Speaker 3: was the previous eight episodes.
- 0:40Speaker 2: This whole podcast is a learning process. It really is
- 0:44Speaker 2: figuring it out as we go.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Me and Adam got some pretty hot chitchat out of
- 0:47Speaker 3: the way. We probably should have saved for the top
- 0:49Speaker 3: of the show.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Oh, it'll be in the outtakes. Okay, nice most of it.
- 0:52Speaker 2: If there's anything to do, You want me to leave
- 0:55Speaker 2: the N word story, Well I don't.
- 1:00Speaker 3: I don't even know what you're talking about.
- 1:01Speaker 2: I actually like, I feel like I can't leave it
- 1:03Speaker 2: in now, just because it would be more fun to
- 1:06Speaker 2: put that teaser out there.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Something we have a memeboy is something called the black File,
- 1:09Speaker 3: where it's just things that are not fit for air,
- 1:11Speaker 3: and we're like, well, if we ever make like ten
- 1:13Speaker 3: thousand dollars in the page an, we'll just drop that
- 1:15Speaker 3: bad boy, which includes a game that someone sent in
- 1:17Speaker 3: called Emo lyric or Suicide Notes, where the last suicide
- 1:21Speaker 3: note had been posted like forty minutes before he sent
- 1:23Speaker 3: the game over, and we like, we're going through it
- 1:26Speaker 3: and I'm like I read, I'm like, oh, it's a
- 1:28Speaker 3: funny idea. Let's all play along. And then as it progresses,
- 1:31Speaker 3: we all just like this is really bad and the
- 1:34Speaker 3: human beings are suffering. They were just like regular people's suicide.
- 1:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:39Speaker 3: It was all like you know, from like forums and
- 1:42Speaker 3: shit and like you know, exit bag tutorial like sites,
- 1:45Speaker 3: and it was just the it was a rough time.
- 1:47Speaker 2: As awful as that sounds, I feel like it makes
- 1:49Speaker 2: a good segue into our topic today because we're going
- 1:53Speaker 2: from that to this is almost a drop down to
- 1:55Speaker 2: make fun of nine to eleven. We're making fun of
- 1:57Speaker 2: nine to eleven.
- 1:58Speaker 3: There's nothing funny about it yet.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing yet. Now other four or.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Five years and it's gonna be you know, yeah.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Or give it forty five minutes for this podcast to
- 2:06Speaker 2: be over, there'll be plenty funny about it.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Yeah. Nine to eleven is one of those conspiracies I've
- 2:10Speaker 3: always been afraid to dig in. It's similar to the
- 2:12Speaker 3: reason where I'm like, I can only watch like two
- 2:14Speaker 3: different animes at a time because I can't be the
- 2:17Speaker 3: anime guy. I just can't be the nine to eleven guy.
- 2:20Speaker 3: I can't be the guy that's got a mohawk. And
- 2:22Speaker 3: Doody thinks that you know that there was thermite in
- 2:25Speaker 3: the basement, right, you do have the mohawk though, I do. Yeah,
- 2:28Speaker 3: I did. I did get a very ill advised mohawk.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that happen?
- 2:33Speaker 3: Was it? It was the podcast thing and it was
- 2:35Speaker 3: just hot and I was feeling impulsive, and I was like,
- 2:38Speaker 3: you know what, I had a mohawk when I was younger.
- 2:39Speaker 3: I don't have I don't need to be I don't
- 2:41Speaker 3: need to look any particular way for the foreseeable future,
- 2:44Speaker 3: you know, why not just let them a freak flag fly?
- 2:47Speaker 3: And then I got it and I looked in the
- 2:48Speaker 3: mirror and I was like, I'm fucking twenty four.
- 2:50Speaker 2: And then you double down on it with the tank
- 2:52Speaker 2: top today.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is uh, this is this is the
- 2:56Speaker 3: around the house like abusive step dad look that I'm
- 2:58Speaker 3: usually usually rocking. Cameras are off. We're doing this early
- 3:02Speaker 3: in the morning, by which I mean eleven am, and uh,
- 3:06Speaker 3: this is pretty much how I'm how the look I
- 3:09Speaker 3: have anytime. I don't need to be a like, you know,
- 3:14Speaker 3: interacting in society in any meaningful way.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just always look great, so it doesn't
- 3:20Speaker 2: matter you do. Yeah, Adam, all you look consistent. Yeah,
- 3:22Speaker 2: you got a brand because I own like three pairs
- 3:24Speaker 2: of pants.
- 3:25Speaker 3: I walk out. I walked out of the ports the
- 3:26Speaker 3: other day like this. My roommate open. He goes like,
- 3:28Speaker 3: you look like a black step dad. You look like
- 3:32Speaker 3: a black uncle at a barbecue. And I was like, oh,
- 3:34Speaker 3: that's that's pretty accurate. It feels cool for me.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Yeah, So happy nine to eleven, everybody, Happy nine to eleven.
- 3:41Speaker 2: It is the NFL's favorite holiday today.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Is what is he the NFL's favorite holiday. I don't
- 3:46Speaker 3: follow football? Do they do a lot of show?
- 3:48Speaker 2: The NFL is super duper into the military and patriotism. Okay,
- 3:54Speaker 2: probably because they're both the same general principle. You're sending
- 3:57Speaker 2: your young children off to die in a very violent
- 4:02Speaker 2: war under cretext right for the benefit of rich white people.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Helped, you know, stop the spread of a system of
- 4:09Speaker 3: government that more or less died in like nineteen ninety
- 4:12Speaker 3: four exactly.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about nine to eleven. This
- 4:16Speaker 2: episode comes out on nine to eleven. We're we're talking
- 4:19Speaker 2: about nine to eleven conspiracies ranked from the least to
- 4:24Speaker 2: most believable.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam is put together a he's triaged, you know,
- 4:29Speaker 3: the fucking veracity of these of these claims.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and I should add this is this is my ranking.
- 4:38Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily reflect the opinion of Connor. He may
- 4:41Speaker 2: disagree on the believability of some of these.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I may yeah, I'm I'm I'm always just maybe it's
- 4:47Speaker 3: maybe it's optimism, but I'm always inclined to just be like,
- 4:50Speaker 3: you know what, I'd probably just get the official story.
- 4:53Speaker 3: I want to believe the official story, you.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Know, well with nine to eleven, especially because the official
- 4:59Speaker 2: story is way more comforting than almost any other story. Yeah,
- 5:03Speaker 2: there's like that, there's no other alternative beyond.
- 5:06Speaker 3: By the way, the official story includes, uh, you know,
- 5:09Speaker 3: the president being handed a folder that was like they're
- 5:11Speaker 3: gonna do nine to eleven and he was.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Like, ah, exactly, yeah, yeah, that's one of the four knowledge.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Kids goats is.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Four knowledge is one of the categories of conspiracy theories
- 5:23Speaker 2: about nine to eleven, And I didn't even put that
- 5:25Speaker 2: one on there because it's really obvious, like, yeah, someone knew,
- 5:29Speaker 2: like they even if they didn't know that day it
- 5:31Speaker 2: was gonna happen, they knew this shit was coming. So yeah,
- 5:34Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's part of the official record sad times.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Let's talk about the least believable theory though, let's jump
- 5:41Speaker 2: right in to it. People have barbecues and cookouts to
- 5:44Speaker 2: get to today. Let's talk about the no planes theory.
- 5:49Speaker 2: This is one. Have you seen this video before? Yes, yeah,
- 5:52Speaker 2: yeah it is if you base your opinion just on
- 5:57Speaker 2: this video, which if you go out take a.
- 6:01Speaker 5: Look at this rare super slow motion.
- 6:03Speaker 2: YouTube, you'll find the video that hit the sound for
- 6:07Speaker 2: a second. It's called holographic planes used on nine to eleven,
- 6:11Speaker 2: and what it is is.
- 6:12Speaker 3: A rare than a regular plane. So you get a
- 6:15Speaker 3: rare plane in every pack, but every four packs you'll
- 6:18Speaker 3: get a holographic plane.
- 6:21Speaker 2: And this video, when you watch it, it does look weird
- 6:25Speaker 2: because it's a slow motion video of the second plane
- 6:28Speaker 2: flying into the World Trade Center and what the guy
- 6:33Speaker 2: points out on.
- 6:35Speaker 5: Nine to eleven, two thousand and one, take a really
- 6:37Speaker 5: close look because there are two impossibilities. I'm going to
- 6:42Speaker 5: show you here, Okay, video listened by Michael Herzakhani, a
- 6:47Speaker 5: diamond merchant based in Los Angeles.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I look that up.
- 6:50Speaker 2: That is true. Michael Herzekhani did shoot this.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Video a diamond merchant. We're in downtown. He probably minutes away.
- 6:57Speaker 5: Steal facade with reinforced concrete.
- 7:00Speaker 3: We should have got him on the podcast.
- 7:01Speaker 5: Seven steel support beams. A jets wing can't slice through
- 7:05Speaker 5: steel building like a hot knife through butter.
- 7:08Speaker 3: How do you know story the news media, Well, jets
- 7:11Speaker 3: go pretty fast.
- 7:12Speaker 5: We're hoax.
- 7:14Speaker 3: They're incredibly heavy. There's a property of matter. Probably that's
- 7:18Speaker 3: you know, says that that will work. I forget which
- 7:21Speaker 3: one it is off the top of my head.
- 7:22Speaker 5: I can't believe it took me over twelve years. This
- 7:25Speaker 5: is the Let me show you a still of this video.
- 7:28Speaker 5: I've highlighted a building that's clearly behind the South World
- 7:32Speaker 5: Trade Center tower. Yet when we pay close attention to
- 7:35Speaker 5: the video, Flight one seventy five's wing should appear in
- 7:39Speaker 5: front of the building, not behind it. This is a
- 7:42Speaker 5: layering CGI glitch. And this proves that this video, which
- 7:46Speaker 5: was seen all over the world over and over and
- 7:50Speaker 5: over again.
- 7:51Speaker 3: This guy sounds so convinced.
- 7:53Speaker 5: Yeah, cgi rendering. Thus it's not an amateur witness video.
- 7:57Speaker 5: It's a fake and.
- 7:59Speaker 3: All right, Well, like one of the things is you
- 8:01Speaker 3: always hope like people like look into things and try
- 8:04Speaker 3: to spot inconsistencies. But it's like, do you really think
- 8:07Speaker 3: that you're gonna sit down on one night with the
- 8:10Speaker 3: monster energy drink and fire up the Adobe after effects
- 8:14Speaker 3: and be like oh shit, of course, you know, like.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Yeah, if this, if this was legit, someone else would
- 8:21Speaker 2: have spotted it along. Because this guy even says at
- 8:23Speaker 2: the beginning it took twelve years.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:25Speaker 2: And but since this video has come out, this video
- 8:28Speaker 2: has spread and people have used it a lot too.
- 8:32Speaker 2: And it does look weird on the surface because when
- 8:35Speaker 2: you watch the video from that angle, it looks like
- 8:38Speaker 2: the building that he's referring to is behind the World
- 8:43Speaker 2: Trade Center. Yeah, and when the plane flies up, it
- 8:45Speaker 2: looks like the wing disappears behind that building. So it
- 8:49Speaker 2: does look fake as shit, But there is there's another
- 8:55Speaker 2: video also, Well, there's a second video. I don't know
- 8:57Speaker 2: if we need to watch all of this because just.
- 9:01Speaker 6: Happen to be talking to his producer's wife, Teresa Renault
- 9:05Speaker 6: at the time of the second alleged plane strike.
- 9:08Speaker 2: I love how authoritative these people always sound.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it's always with a bad microphone that
- 9:15Speaker 3: clearly came with the Xbox headset.
- 9:19Speaker 2: So his argument here is that she's being coached through.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Mom, leave the pizza rolls by the door. I'm exposing.
- 9:32Speaker 1: And right now that yes, that would definitely.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Look like since there was no real jib. Yeah, I can't.
- 9:41Speaker 3: They needed to create a lot.
- 9:42Speaker 2: I cannot fuck with that microphone this guy's using. I'm
- 9:45Speaker 2: very sorry. Yeah, but here's the thing. This has been
- 9:49Speaker 2: thoroughly debunked. And uh, the reason it's it's debunked. That
- 9:55Speaker 2: building is actually way way way in front of the
- 9:58Speaker 2: World Trade Center.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy just had his like map upside down.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like it's from that particular video
- 10:06Speaker 2: that perspective makes it look like the building is behind it. Yeah,
- 10:10Speaker 2: but there's if you research it. I don't know why
- 10:12Speaker 2: I didn't put it in the links, but if you
- 10:15Speaker 2: go out on YouTube, you'll find there's another video where
- 10:18Speaker 2: they show a side angle of that view and you
- 10:21Speaker 2: see the building in question, which is two or three
- 10:24Speaker 2: blocks in front of the World Trade Center, so there
- 10:27Speaker 2: were fucking planes probably at least at the World Trade Center.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and I like that they're saying holograms when
- 10:34Speaker 3: what they meant was like, you know video, well there
- 10:39Speaker 3: is actually, oh that's it. There are people that think
- 10:41Speaker 3: that they like, you know.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one video that I linked to, but it's
- 10:45Speaker 2: like forty five minutes long, so it like we can't
- 10:48Speaker 2: watch it all. But it's an old retired Navy or
- 10:51Speaker 2: Air Force guy talking about yeah, because it's.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Like people in their sixties know a lot about holograms. Yeah,
- 10:57Speaker 3: that's the thing.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Once someone like you see an old person talking about this,
- 11:02Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, that guy seems legit, and
- 11:05Speaker 2: it's like crazy people get old, Yuess that's true, and
- 11:09Speaker 2: you know sometimes they just continue there crazy into their
- 11:12Speaker 2: later years.
- 11:13Speaker 3: But I just like they like they have like you know,
- 11:15Speaker 3: romulan cloaking technology. That's That's kind of what he was
- 11:18Speaker 3: pitching was that like way easier I think is to
- 11:21Speaker 3: bribe bribe a bunch of Saudi Arabians or whatever than
- 11:24Speaker 3: it is to develop this like million dollar cloaking device,
- 11:28Speaker 3: right right, and like create all their backstories and whatever.
- 11:31Speaker 3: And you know, have these people go to flight school
- 11:33Speaker 3: and they did have photographic evidence of them in the
- 11:35Speaker 3: airport and all that be like, but then they they
- 11:38Speaker 3: switched them out and they hologram.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Dude, what And you would have to be so precise
- 11:44Speaker 2: with that hologram because it's following a missile.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Like I don't know if you remember CNN on election night,
- 11:48Speaker 3: like the holograms weren't perfect, you know, like fucking will
- 11:52Speaker 3: I Am didn't exactly look like he could take down
- 11:54Speaker 3: a fucking skyscraper.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Fucking CN. I saw a CNN headline the other day.
- 12:00Speaker 2: This was like their main headline. It said, CNN stayed
- 12:05Speaker 2: up all night reading Hillary Clinton's memoir. It's like, you're
- 12:08Speaker 2: a fucking news organization. Someone should just do that. I
- 12:11Speaker 2: certainly hope you did. They want so much congratulations for that.
- 12:15Speaker 3: I'm so excited to listen to the audiobook of that
- 12:18Speaker 3: in my car.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Are you gonna listen to it?
- 12:20Speaker 3: I'm I'm going to well because I listened to Bill
- 12:22Speaker 3: Clinton's audio book and it's it's the fucking funniest shit.
- 12:25Speaker 3: There's a that nobody appreciated how great I was, even
- 12:29Speaker 3: though I did my best and I did a couple
- 12:32Speaker 3: of oopsy doozles, but uh, I was still the great.
- 12:36Speaker 3: I was a good guy. I don't let anybody tell
- 12:40Speaker 3: you otherwise. You know, it's just going and I'm you're
- 12:43Speaker 3: just gonna be able to hear just Hillary, just hear
- 12:45Speaker 3: fucking I. I.
- 12:48Speaker 5: Oh.
- 12:48Speaker 3: I always loved the fact that she was just completely
- 12:50Speaker 3: like flat and emotionless. Like that turned a lot of
- 12:52Speaker 3: people off, but I was like, oh, yeah, that's great,
- 12:54Speaker 3: that's you.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Know, yeah, you kind of want a robot for a president.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Wasn't crazy about her. I voted
- 13:01Speaker 3: for her and all that shit, but uh yeah, well,
- 13:03Speaker 3: I mean at some point, I mean the book, and
- 13:04Speaker 3: also I'm just I can't like just the the the
- 13:07Speaker 3: emotional experience of losing an election is like that's probably
- 13:10Speaker 3: devastating if you're running for city council, but like I
- 13:13Speaker 3: cannot even imagine, like, okay, I severely you know that
- 13:18Speaker 3: it's all her fault or whatever, but like this severely
- 13:20Speaker 3: fucking impacted the trajectory of human rights, the economy, and
- 13:25Speaker 3: every other like pertinent measure of like prominent you know,
- 13:28Speaker 3: like a prosperous world for generations, and she just has
- 13:31Speaker 3: to like, well, I'm hiking up here in the Hamptons.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Like remember al Gore after he lost to Bush for
- 13:38Speaker 2: like months after that, he grew a big fucking mountain
- 13:42Speaker 2: man beer. Oh you got it, went into hiding.
- 13:44Speaker 3: Like David Letterman like you. Yeah, yeah, you have a
- 13:47Speaker 3: major lifestyle change like that, you got to grow the
- 13:49Speaker 3: beer to go along with it. Yeah. Absolutely.
- 13:52Speaker 2: So let's talk about the next theory, which I would
- 13:55Speaker 2: argue is kind of unbelievable, and this is one that
- 13:59Speaker 2: for a long time I thought was probably the most likely,
- 14:04Speaker 2: and that is that flight ninety three was shot down, okay,
- 14:09Speaker 2: as opposed to the passengers knocking it out of the
- 14:14Speaker 2: sky or whatever. The movie version of the story.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Is, yeah, and well so the kind of the you know,
- 14:20Speaker 3: the reasoning behind it being that, like they wanted to
- 14:23Speaker 3: feel good story after all this went down, so they're like, oh,
- 14:25Speaker 3: the passengers bravely you know, did this, And yeah, that
- 14:29Speaker 3: was to kind of try to like, you know, give
- 14:30Speaker 3: people a little bit of civic pride or whatever.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Right, And the reason it has always seemed believable to
- 14:37Speaker 2: me is because it's what you're supposed to do, Like
- 14:40Speaker 2: after two planes have flown into buildings, and there's one
- 14:42Speaker 2: headed for Washington, d C. If the government got in
- 14:46Speaker 2: front of the people and said, look, we shot that
- 14:48Speaker 2: third plane down. We didn't have any choice, I'd be like, yeah,
- 14:51Speaker 2: you didn't have any choice. All those people were gonna
- 14:53Speaker 2: die no matter what. You weren't gonna board the plane
- 14:56Speaker 2: and save them. Is that like official policy it's supposed
- 15:00Speaker 2: to be you're supposed to scramble fighter jets in response
- 15:04Speaker 2: to terrorist attacks, and that it didn't happen on nine
- 15:09Speaker 2: to eleven.
- 15:10Speaker 3: So that's where you put the milk with the FA teens.
- 15:12Speaker 3: And then okay, that is not.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Good and they, oh, scramble, I get it.
- 15:18Speaker 3: Like eggs. Oh like eggs. You know, some words have
- 15:21Speaker 3: two meanings at him and that can be a lot
- 15:23Speaker 3: of fun. I don't like that.
- 15:25Speaker 2: They The Popular Mechanics actually did a really interesting article
- 15:32Speaker 2: where they kind of debunked all of the different myths
- 15:37Speaker 2: around the fact that these planes might have been shot down.
- 15:40Speaker 2: But the one thing that always struck me as weird
- 15:43Speaker 2: is there is video of Donald Rumsfeld giving a speech
- 15:48Speaker 2: somewhere and he it's obviously just a slip of the tongue,
- 15:52Speaker 2: but he does say the terrorists who shot down Flight
- 15:55Speaker 2: ninety three, which I mean that he he said it,
- 16:01Speaker 2: God damn it.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, that's kind of like when Scott Peterson was
- 16:04Speaker 3: like talking about you know, like he was recounting the
- 16:07Speaker 3: events before he killed that lady. I think it was
- 16:09Speaker 3: Scott Peterson. I'm not going to keep him tracking a
- 16:11Speaker 3: different murderers. I have like no interest in true crime.
- 16:13Speaker 3: But he's like, well, yeah, you know, I was in
- 16:15Speaker 3: the RV and then you know, we headed out to
- 16:17Speaker 3: the desert. And then his lawyer had to be like, well,
- 16:20Speaker 3: he thinks of his RV as a woman, and he's
- 16:22Speaker 3: named it, and he was saying we because he's lonely,
- 16:25Speaker 3: and he just said that, like yeah, he had to
- 16:29Speaker 3: backtrack it real hard. Yeah.
- 16:31Speaker 2: The so there's a bunch of different things. Everyone should
- 16:35Speaker 2: just go read this Popular Mechanics article called Debunking the
- 16:39Speaker 2: Nine to eleven Myths Special Report Flight ninety three, because
- 16:43Speaker 2: it was this was I thought one of the more
- 16:46Speaker 2: believable ones.
- 16:47Speaker 3: For a while.
- 16:47Speaker 2: There were all these witness accounts of a live, low
- 16:51Speaker 2: flying jet in the area, which that turned out to
- 16:55Speaker 2: be true. But and here's the thing, Popular Mechanics looked
- 16:59Speaker 2: in it. They went out and got an official comment,
- 17:02Speaker 2: and what they got back was that, yes, there was
- 17:04Speaker 2: a jet in the area, but it was a private
- 17:07Speaker 2: jet and it was there, that it was there for
- 17:11Speaker 2: completely different reasons. Donald Trump shut down fled ninety three
- 17:16Speaker 2: with his his Lear airliner. So everybody that has ever
- 17:22Speaker 2: shown up too early for a doctor's appointment knows that
- 17:24Speaker 2: this is false. Yeah, basically, and they they you know,
- 17:29Speaker 2: they looked into it. And it's the thing is, they
- 17:31Speaker 2: got an explanation for it. I know, people though, will
- 17:34Speaker 2: argue that, well, it's not like they're going to come
- 17:37Speaker 2: out and go, yeah, you got us. How did you
- 17:39Speaker 2: know there was a plane in the area. Yeah, Like,
- 17:41Speaker 2: that's not that if there was a plane in the
- 17:44Speaker 2: area that shot down flight ninety three, it's not like
- 17:47Speaker 2: it would have hovered to see if it did the job.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd just probably break away asap.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Yeah, you would get the fuck out of there.
- 17:56Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 17:56Speaker 3: And then, well, don't they have like black box recordings
- 17:59Speaker 3: from flight ninety three?
- 18:00Speaker 2: They do, But in this in this conspiracy connor, those
- 18:04Speaker 2: were faked. Uh duh, duh, there were no.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I was like, how can you possibly create some kind
- 18:11Speaker 3: of false audio records? We don't have that kind of
- 18:13Speaker 3: technology and we could do it right now. Well, look,
- 18:16Speaker 3: they just go to Central Casting for crisis actors.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Uh, we need to do an episode on crisis actors
- 18:22Speaker 2: at some point.
- 18:23Speaker 3: I have this thing I want to do where I
- 18:25Speaker 3: want to prank info Wars by pretending to be a
- 18:27Speaker 3: paid protester and then I'm gonna have this like short
- 18:30Speaker 3: video clip and then as the video clip just pans out,
- 18:32Speaker 3: it's just like me just you know, like the fucking
- 18:35Speaker 3: a blow up doll of Alex Jones or something stupid.
- 18:38Speaker 3: It's not a bad idea. Yeah, I mean supposedly if
- 18:41Speaker 3: they listen to this, they'll you know, be able to
- 18:44Speaker 3: see behind the ruse. But I've got a mohawk now,
- 18:46Speaker 3: so I'm very I could I can change my appearance
- 18:48Speaker 3: very very quickly.
- 18:49Speaker 2: They they don't listen to this. Yeah, I promise you
- 18:52Speaker 2: that it's probably true. Probably not the uh so, Yeah,
- 18:56Speaker 2: there's a bunch of things, like there was a roving
- 18:58Speaker 2: engine that people thought was a weird distance away from
- 19:02Speaker 2: the crash, but it actually wasn't. It was like everything
- 19:06Speaker 2: about flight ninety three does seem pretty much explainable, and
- 19:11Speaker 2: that I just thought that was interesting because at first
- 19:15Speaker 2: without looking into it much. This was always the one
- 19:17Speaker 2: that I thought, yeah, maybe.
- 19:19Speaker 3: But all the everything seemed to be pretty much accounted for.
- 19:23Speaker 2: But let's talk about the Pentagon getting hit with a missile.
- 19:26Speaker 2: This one is weird. I put this in.
- 19:29Speaker 3: The to be fair. I can imagine that, you know,
- 19:31Speaker 3: people in the federal government would want to kill Donald Rumsfeld.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Well, one of the theories is that there was a scan
- 19:38Speaker 2: a financial scandal happening involving a bunch of money that
- 19:41Speaker 2: went missing, and that the Pentagon attacks destroyed the records.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Because you know, was basically to cover up Pentagon office space.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Pretty much out of control Pentagon spending, so they took
- 19:54Speaker 2: down three four buildings and an extra airplane.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Out of control Pentagon spending is when the geometry department
- 20:00Speaker 3: at your school is over budget. Now it don't fly
- 20:03Speaker 3: a missile into fucking Missus Potts.
- 20:07Speaker 2: So this one is let's let's watch the first video.
- 20:12Speaker 2: It's this is just raw surveillance footage. Anyone can go
- 20:16Speaker 2: out and find this. Does this look like an airplane
- 20:22Speaker 2: hitting the World Trade Center? I mean, obviously not that.
- 20:26Speaker 3: This is the I'm pretty sure it's only one story,
- 20:29Speaker 3: which is what's always been weird to me.
- 20:32Speaker 2: Is the the angle and the maneuvering you would have
- 20:36Speaker 2: to do to make this work with a plane. Here
- 20:41Speaker 2: it comes and see that white thing that you see
- 20:44Speaker 2: when it hits the building, I thought was the plane,
- 20:48Speaker 2: but that is actually smoke coming from the back.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Okay, well this is this is such a low frame
- 20:54Speaker 3: rate that you didn't You didn't get the actual impact.
- 20:57Speaker 2: And there is another video, which is this one that
- 21:03Speaker 2: has a little bit of detail too.
- 21:06Speaker 1: It only has this question never been answered, but an
- 21:09Speaker 1: in depth analysis of the only footage of the impact
- 21:12Speaker 1: ever released.
- 21:12Speaker 3: Again, the video editing is not good enough.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Initially released these five frames taken from a Pentagon Parking
- 21:19Speaker 1: security camera. Later on in two thousand and six, the
- 21:22Speaker 1: DoD released the entire sequence from which the five frames
- 21:25Speaker 1: had been extracted.
- 21:26Speaker 3: Okay, time lap.
- 21:27Speaker 1: Sequence runs in approximately one frame per second, and it
- 21:30Speaker 1: shows the moments leading up to the impact, the large explosion,
- 21:34Speaker 1: and the billowing fire that ensued. Unfortunately, the video does
- 21:37Speaker 1: not show the airplane in transit. All we can see
- 21:40Speaker 1: in the frame preceding the explosion is what appears to
- 21:43Speaker 1: be the tail of an airplane, followed by a trail
- 21:45Speaker 1: of white smoke.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Sure, okay, the body of the plane remains covered by this.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Concrete column standing in the foreground. The Department of Defense
- 21:53Speaker 1: also released a second video taken by a different camera
- 21:56Speaker 1: from the same parking lot. The second camera was actually
- 21:59Speaker 1: low key in the very column that obscured the view
- 22:02Speaker 1: of the plane in the first video. This aerial shot
- 22:05Speaker 1: of the Pentagon shows the actual location of the two cameras.
- 22:08Speaker 1: The second camera faces in the same direction as the first,
- 22:11Speaker 1: and it offers a clear, unobstructed view of the same
- 22:14Speaker 1: field of action. By using the moment of the explosion,
- 22:17Speaker 1: we can synchronize the two cameras with absolute frame by
- 22:20Speaker 1: frame accuracy.
- 22:22Speaker 2: How about you just do that and not tell us, Yeah,
- 22:24Speaker 2: do you need to first cameras?
- 22:26Speaker 1: We notice that the second video begins earlier than the first,
- 22:30Speaker 1: while the first lasts longer than the second.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Okay, see good observation.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Common section of about one hundred frames which are perfectly
- 22:37Speaker 1: synchronized with each other.
- 22:38Speaker 2: Fantastic.
- 22:39Speaker 1: From the moment the police car moves on, the action
- 22:41Speaker 1: proceeds in an identical manner both in the frames preceding.
- 22:44Speaker 2: The We know how sinking video works was.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Following the explosion.
- 22:48Speaker 3: This is video. These are photos.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Videos after the explosion. We can verify how each couple
- 22:53Speaker 1: of frames depicts exactly the same action by looking at
- 22:56Speaker 1: the shape of the billowing smoke.
- 22:58Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got it, We got it.
- 23:01Speaker 1: So this confirms that the two cameras were operating in
- 23:04Speaker 1: perfect synchronization.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Oh why wow? Oh whoa right?
- 23:08Speaker 1: Expected? After all, the two cameras were controlled by a
- 23:11Speaker 1: centralized recording system called multiplace hitch.
- 23:14Speaker 3: Yeah are There's no way this is relevant to what
- 23:17Speaker 3: the point is supposed to do. There's no way.
- 23:19Speaker 1: It shows a completely different action from one another. They
- 23:23Speaker 1: happen to be the two frames in which the plane
- 23:25Speaker 1: travels across the lawn. It's frame twenty three in the
- 23:28Speaker 1: relative count Jordan. As the first video showed the tail
- 23:32Speaker 1: and the trail of smoke, we would expect the second
- 23:35Speaker 1: camera placed in this concrete column to show the entire
- 23:38Speaker 1: body of the plane in the same position.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Yeah it does not.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Whoa corresponding frame, Camera two shows only the tip of
- 23:46Speaker 1: the plane entering frame from the right hand corner. But
- 23:49Speaker 1: how can the nose of the plane be behind the
- 23:52Speaker 1: tail at the same moment in time the.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Synchronous travels Stupid for a.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Maximum fluctuation between the two cameras is flying it backwards
- 24:00Speaker 1: of one thirtieth of a second. Given that the plane
- 24:03Speaker 1: is traveling at seven hundred and fifty feet per second,
- 24:05Speaker 1: the maximum possible fluctuation between the two cameras would translate
- 24:09Speaker 1: into a difference of a mere twenty five feet In
- 24:11Speaker 1: the position of the plane, A seven fifty seven is
- 24:14Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five feet long calculating the perspective
- 24:18Speaker 1: due to the diagonal path. This is far from sufficient
- 24:20Speaker 1: to explain the large discrepancy between the two images. Well well, well,
- 24:25Speaker 1: at this moment, the two videos resume their perfect synchronization,
- 24:28Speaker 1: which is maintained all the way to the end.
- 24:30Speaker 2: The truth is out there.
- 24:31Speaker 3: Connor, I'm kind of just mad that the Pentagon didn't
- 24:34Speaker 3: have more cameras.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Well, that's I think part of this conspiracy also is
- 24:39Speaker 2: that there were more surveillance cameras and that they THEBI
- 24:43Speaker 2: went out and rounded them all up and won't show
- 24:46Speaker 2: them because.
- 24:47Speaker 3: They're sitting on almost twelve whole frames of high speed video.
- 24:52Speaker 2: They one of the other things, let's let's pull up
- 24:57Speaker 2: this video. There's one of the weirdest things about this
- 25:01Speaker 2: is there's this eyewitness.
- 25:03Speaker 3: Here we go. Let's listen.
- 25:04Speaker 2: This is an eyewitness who says he saw the plane
- 25:09Speaker 2: fly into the Pentagon. And this is from a video
- 25:12Speaker 2: called nine to eleven Pentagon attack. Strange case of the
- 25:16Speaker 2: taxi cabin light pole number one Pentagon's attacked.
- 25:21Speaker 7: Is so quiet and he never said a word. He
- 25:26Speaker 7: helped me get the pole out. The pole happened to
- 25:28Speaker 7: be bent. We pulled the pole out and the pole
- 25:33Speaker 7: was bent.
- 25:35Speaker 2: So what this guy's saying is he saw the plane
- 25:38Speaker 2: fly and hit the Pentagon and that it knocked over
- 25:43Speaker 2: a light pole which then flew into his car. And
- 25:48Speaker 2: when he's talking about the man who didn't say anything,
- 25:51Speaker 2: it's a apparently an eyewitness who came by helped him
- 25:55Speaker 2: get this pole out of his car and then moved
- 25:58Speaker 2: on because what else is here to see?
- 26:01Speaker 7: Took me down to the ground. I fell down on
- 26:03Speaker 7: my back, but I held a pole up and laid
- 26:07Speaker 7: the pole down, and he got it his van and
- 26:10Speaker 7: went on down the road.
- 26:12Speaker 8: This would mean that a ninety ton Boeing traveling five
- 26:15Speaker 8: hundred and thirty miles per hour, factored with the kinetic
- 26:18Speaker 8: energy of the cab traveling about forty miles per hour
- 26:21Speaker 8: in the opposite direction.
- 26:22Speaker 3: So we're simulating this surely caused gold. I do think
- 26:28Speaker 3: this was a good point large piece. It's a lot.
- 26:31Speaker 7: Yeah, the large piece was sticking out across the hood. Wow,
- 26:36Speaker 7: the pole came right on through it to the back seat.
- 26:38Speaker 7: Anybody had been sitting in the back, sitting in the
- 26:41Speaker 7: front on the right side, the pole would have went through.
- 26:44Speaker 3: Sure it and it actually was laying on your.
- 26:46Speaker 7: Head then yeah wow yeah, but then no scratches on.
- 26:50Speaker 2: The hood, right, how does that happen?
- 26:53Speaker 3: Well? So that fuck, that's weird.
- 26:56Speaker 8: The sheer weight and length of the pole in context
- 26:59Speaker 8: with the physics of the scenario described by Lloyd, when
- 27:02Speaker 8: compared with the total lack of damage to the hood
- 27:04Speaker 8: of the cab, reveals the situation that is beyond implausible.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Like there is no damage on that hood.
- 27:11Speaker 3: I think a lot of the reason that that other
- 27:13Speaker 3: guy that helped him with the poll did income forward
- 27:14Speaker 3: is because he was like, man, if I do this,
- 27:16Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to talk to Alex Jones for the
- 27:19Speaker 3: next thirty years.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Well, was Alex Jones a thing by nine to eleven?
- 27:24Speaker 3: Oh?
- 27:24Speaker 2: He was?
- 27:24Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just just very low rent
- 27:27Speaker 3: he's been doing it since like the early nineties. I think, damn,
- 27:30Speaker 3: since right around the time Bill Hicks died.
- 27:33Speaker 2: Oh hey, shout out to the next episode. Yeah, oh really, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 27:38Speaker 2: we talked about Bill Hicks at one point.
- 27:41Speaker 3: So yeah. This.
- 27:43Speaker 2: The other thing about this theory is there are a
- 27:47Speaker 2: lot of witnesses who say they saw the plane coming
- 27:51Speaker 2: from one direction, and then there's just kind of this
- 27:55Speaker 2: guy who says he saw it coming from the other direction.
- 27:59Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy's a cab driver, and cab drivers just
- 28:03Speaker 3: keep a sleep schedule similar to mine, you know, which
- 28:07Speaker 3: is not good for being a reliable witness.
- 28:10Speaker 2: And I don't I really don't understand the I mean,
- 28:14Speaker 2: none of this necessarily means the Pentagon was hit with
- 28:17Speaker 2: a missile, but that cab driver's story is weird. And
- 28:24Speaker 2: here is You can also find this on YouTube, a
- 28:27Speaker 2: compilation of news reports.
- 28:29Speaker 3: If this hasn't been auto tuned, I don't want to
- 28:31Speaker 3: watch it.
- 28:31Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to get someone on that. It is
- 28:34Speaker 2: from a DVD available at the website. Ah, just joke,
- 28:37Speaker 2: And I'm not going to say the name of the website.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Nine to eleven video Clips. Dan rather would rather not
- 28:41Speaker 2: show you.
- 28:44Speaker 3: I love.
- 28:45Speaker 2: I love I love that this video, let's rewind it
- 28:50Speaker 2: just a little, is clearly recorded over an old episode
- 28:54Speaker 2: of Mash which you see very briefly.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Real really, that's amazing. Oh my god, fuck Mash.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Nine eleven's happening.
- 29:05Speaker 3: That's the bomb? You know? Wait, positive, that's what we're positive.
- 29:10Speaker 6: Second.
- 29:11Speaker 3: Sorry, you know this guy was like what he sees
- 29:14Speaker 3: the first plane hit and he's like, oh man, I
- 29:17Speaker 3: mean these news they might have a slip of the tongue.
- 29:19Speaker 3: I should hold onto this. Let me grab a VHS.
- 29:22Speaker 3: And he looks up and he's like, oh, it's the finale.
- 29:24Speaker 3: I I get drunken watches It's like, what's a mon fuck? Okay,
- 29:29Speaker 3: god damn. It just shoves it in. He's like, you
- 29:31Speaker 3: better fuck up rather.
- 29:33Speaker 2: So this is this is one video that I think
- 29:36Speaker 2: has circulated a lot. It's from a Fox News clip
- 29:39Speaker 2: right after the second plane hits, and it's just a
- 29:43Speaker 2: reporter talking to someone in the street.
- 29:46Speaker 3: It can fly. It wasn't bomb bombing in all the building,
- 29:49Speaker 3: not sick and plane. That's the bomb, we say, the
- 29:53Speaker 3: second plane. That's what we're told.
- 29:55Speaker 4: The second plane.
- 29:56Speaker 3: We saw it on television, all right, Thanks.
- 29:58Speaker 2: A lot that guy says it's a bomb. Yeah, okay,
- 30:05Speaker 2: we're going a little over on that clip, aren't.
- 30:07Speaker 7: We idea how much of the plane actually impacted the building?
- 30:11Speaker 4: You know, it might have appeared that way, but from
- 30:14Speaker 4: my close up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane
- 30:17Speaker 4: having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site is
- 30:21Speaker 4: the actual side of the building that's crashed in, And
- 30:24Speaker 4: as I said, the only pieces left that you can
- 30:26Speaker 4: see are small enough that you could pick up in
- 30:29Speaker 4: your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections
- 30:33Speaker 4: of fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate
- 30:37Speaker 4: that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon.
- 30:40Speaker 3: And then that's wee side to collapse.
- 30:42Speaker 4: Now, even though if you look at the pictures of
- 30:44Speaker 4: the Pentagon you see that the floors of all collapse,
- 30:47Speaker 4: that didn't happen immediately. It wasn't until almost about forty
- 30:50Speaker 4: five minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that
- 30:53Speaker 4: all of the floors collapse.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Well, planes are covered with the United Airlines plane. It's
- 30:58Speaker 3: believed to be that side outside Pittsburgh, is it? Ah, right,
- 31:02Speaker 3: that's good enough. So, yeah, that's see the fact that
- 31:06Speaker 3: there's no big plane chunks. I mean, how fast is traveling,
- 31:09Speaker 3: how much heat there is from the jet fuel explosion?
- 31:12Speaker 3: Like I don't I mean, that isn't really a nail
- 31:15Speaker 3: in the coffet to me. Also, anything that has any
- 31:17Speaker 3: kind of like real structural sturdiness is going to be
- 31:21Speaker 3: deep within the building at that point, you know, after
- 31:24Speaker 3: the collision.
- 31:24Speaker 2: So what's weird about that to me is have you
- 31:27Speaker 2: ever seen the Loose Change documentary, which is super duper bowlshit. Yeah,
- 31:31Speaker 2: the guy started doing it as a parody and like.
- 31:35Speaker 3: And then he just kind of cold got freaked out
- 31:36Speaker 3: and convinced himself. Yeah, like I did, like like I
- 31:39Speaker 3: did with the Berenstein Bears thing, that one that one night. No,
- 31:42Speaker 3: this is this is almost exactly like those Oklahoma City videos.
- 31:45Speaker 3: Yeah where eyewitness testimony. I mean I sound like this one.
- 31:48Speaker 3: Everyone is freaking out and traumatized and like, you know,
- 31:51Speaker 3: you don't know how to fucking process what you just saw.
- 31:55Speaker 3: Like you know, the human brain is probably was not
- 31:58Speaker 3: evolved to seeing up sort of rick and morty, you know,
- 32:01Speaker 3: much less see a fucking thousand people die after a
- 32:05Speaker 3: plane hits ability. So I mean all that shit, I
- 32:08Speaker 3: mean it's weird, but I don't think it's complete.
- 32:11Speaker 2: The reason I brought up Loose Change is there's a
- 32:14Speaker 2: scene right near the beginning where he shows the impact
- 32:17Speaker 2: site of the Pentagon and he also says there's no
- 32:22Speaker 2: plane parts or anything around.
- 32:24Speaker 3: Why not?
- 32:26Speaker 2: But the way that was eventually debunked is the actual
- 32:31Speaker 2: photo he was using was released and he was using
- 32:34Speaker 2: a cropped version, and when it wasn't cropped, you did
- 32:38Speaker 2: see a bunch of plane parts laying around. Yeah, but
- 32:43Speaker 2: they were also I mean, I guess I don't know
- 32:46Speaker 2: what that last guy's angle was who was talking on
- 32:49Speaker 2: the video, but they seemed big enough that people would
- 32:52Speaker 2: have seen them like that.
- 32:57Speaker 3: Let me well, you also got to remember these people
- 32:59Speaker 3: are on the you know, right at the time, and
- 33:02Speaker 3: they just don't.
- 33:03Speaker 2: See Hopefully someone just did a side by side Yeah
- 33:08Speaker 2: fuck it, I can't find it. But there's a there's
- 33:11Speaker 2: an image in Loose Change where he shows the Pentagon
- 33:15Speaker 2: and it shows there's no wreckage, and then someone later
- 33:18Speaker 2: released an image showing there was wreckage. So like, why
- 33:23Speaker 2: wouldn't people have been able to see it? Who were
- 33:25Speaker 2: there that day? I guess is my only quest? But
- 33:29Speaker 2: who knows? So That's why I call.
- 33:30Speaker 3: That one a maybe.
- 33:32Speaker 2: And I also the flight pattern you would have to
- 33:35Speaker 2: take to make that to do that without knocking over,
- 33:39Speaker 2: like there was one light pole that got knocked over,
- 33:41Speaker 2: Like you're flying over traffic in.
- 33:44Speaker 3: A well yeah, but I mean the field of where
- 33:47Speaker 3: light poles are. You know, that's a that's a range
- 33:50Speaker 3: of twenty feet, you know. Yeah, and then you're you're
- 33:53Speaker 3: making a descent trying to hit the Pentagon. So I
- 33:55Speaker 3: mean you're you're you're not in.
- 33:57Speaker 2: GTA, just trying to clip light poles, you know that
- 34:01Speaker 2: is I mean I would be I would guess that.
- 34:04Speaker 3: Well at that point, I mean you might suck up
- 34:05Speaker 3: your whole mission.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Well yeah, but at least you clip those light poles.
- 34:08Speaker 3: You play terrorism simulator every night like I do? Okay, Yeah,
- 34:13Speaker 3: I mean, well, you're you're gonna you're gonna want to
- 34:15Speaker 3: come in in an angle where there's you know, minimal
- 34:18Speaker 3: fucking chance of you just getting knocked haywire.
- 34:21Speaker 2: So yeah, uh, I thought I had one more in here.
- 34:27Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know where the heading went. Oh
- 34:29Speaker 2: there it is controlled demolition, let's talk about that.
- 34:33Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the big one.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is I have this as probably
- 34:39Speaker 2: really well. The the video is weird, like the there
- 34:44Speaker 2: is I mean not the video, but there there are
- 34:47Speaker 2: several videos in the The explosions do look strange like
- 34:52Speaker 2: they they do. No matter what else you do or
- 34:56Speaker 2: don't believe, those explosions do look like control demolitions.
- 35:02Speaker 3: We have no idea.
- 35:04Speaker 2: Well, we don't have a lot of plain impacts to
- 35:06Speaker 2: compare him to, right, I mean, on this SKO, we
- 35:11Speaker 2: don't really have any you have to get Yeah, I
- 35:14Speaker 2: guess it would be a matter of the you know,
- 35:17Speaker 2: the top part crashing down into the technical I was
- 35:21Speaker 2: sure this guy had a if necessary bitch and ponytail
- 35:24Speaker 2: at first, but it's just a shadow and I wasn't
- 35:27Speaker 2: at all surprised that he had a ponytail over all, Right,
- 35:31Speaker 2: you wanted auto tuning resistance, Here we go, connor O.
- 35:37Speaker 3: This is the Trons soundtrack that Deaf Punk did.
- 35:40Speaker 8: This is a controlled demolition.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Typically, a tall building like this is demolished by placing
- 35:46Speaker 1: thousands of cutter charges.
- 35:48Speaker 3: Throughout the columns and beings, detonating them in a very
- 35:51Speaker 3: precise order.
- 35:53Speaker 1: This is a controlled demolition, synchronistically timed floor by.
- 35:58Speaker 3: Floor detonating him in it very precise order.
- 36:02Speaker 2: This is we should have taken ecstasy for this video.
- 36:08Speaker 3: Well, I'm grinding my teeth and with the government probably
- 36:12Speaker 3: killed us, but I'm happy about it. It's from Ebom's world,
- 36:17Speaker 3: by the way.
- 36:19Speaker 6: So the result is an inclos that that's the nine
- 36:22Speaker 6: to eleven This is because you do see in the
- 36:26Speaker 6: nine to eleven explosions or the nine to eleven collapse.
- 36:30Speaker 2: You do see those little explosions like that building just showed.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Is that not just the dust from you know these Yeah,
- 36:42Speaker 2: it's breaking. It could be the Yeah, it could be
- 36:45Speaker 2: those just those points collapsing. But well they've never demolished
- 36:52Speaker 2: a building as big as the World Trade Center.
- 36:54Speaker 7: Time.
- 36:55Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore.
- 36:57Speaker 7: This is.
- 36:59Speaker 3: There's building seven. This is a controlled demolition.
- 37:04Speaker 2: This is a controlled demolition. Yeah, this is like this
- 37:09Speaker 2: is all right, all right, okay, if we finished this video,
- 37:12Speaker 2: I'm gonna shoot somebody when Tone shows me the Ace
- 37:14Speaker 2: of Spades, Like I the editing was very upsetting.
- 37:18Speaker 3: Well, it's just a problem of a lack of data points.
- 37:20Speaker 3: I feel like it's like we don't buildings as big
- 37:22Speaker 3: as the World Tradesmener. You don't get demolished to put
- 37:24Speaker 3: something else there because it's too expensive. They're already making
- 37:27Speaker 3: money in terms of people running the mountain stuff. So yeah,
- 37:29Speaker 3: I mean, we have a lot of videos of twelve
- 37:32Speaker 3: story buildings being demolished, but I don't know how many
- 37:34Speaker 3: fucking stories world Trails. Probably at least it's like one
- 37:36Speaker 3: hundred or eighty at least, you know, it's yeah, it
- 37:38Speaker 3: was a lot fucking yeah. Yeah.
- 37:42Speaker 2: I don't want not to be controversial, but it was
- 37:44Speaker 2: a lot of pretty tall A lot of people died too.
- 37:47Speaker 3: That felt like a lot to me. It was up there,
- 37:49Speaker 3: it was up vertically guessed the exact number on a
- 37:54Speaker 3: podcast once and I was so impressed with myself. I
- 37:57Speaker 3: recently guessed exactly how many episodes of speed Racer they were,
- 38:00Speaker 3: despite not really knowing that much about Rice Racer?
- 38:03Speaker 2: Are there also twenty nine and ninety six?
- 38:07Speaker 3: No, there's fifty two? I was talking to my dad, No,
- 38:09Speaker 3: and even what do they make maybe fifty two episodes
- 38:11Speaker 3: of speed Racer? He's like, break something like that, and
- 38:13Speaker 3: I looked it up. It was like fifty two. That's
- 38:16Speaker 3: pretty great. But yeah, I just feel like, you know,
- 38:19Speaker 3: the plane impacts that weakens the floors above it as
- 38:22Speaker 3: those start, you know, falling and collapsing, and the weight
- 38:25Speaker 3: is like the way buildings are made, like weight has
- 38:26Speaker 3: to be distributed evenly. And then you know the fact
- 38:29Speaker 3: that there's a big fucking plane shaped hole means that
- 38:31Speaker 3: a lot of it is going to be spread out
- 38:33Speaker 3: over other other points, which you know, weaken and crumble
- 38:36Speaker 3: and melt. And then yeah, as they kind of fall
- 38:38Speaker 3: down on top of each other, and it's it's like
- 38:40Speaker 3: the it's just none of it is enough for me
- 38:44Speaker 3: to think that this is the.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Thing about this too, is it's the part that would
- 38:48Speaker 2: almost require I mean, aside from all of it, this
- 38:52Speaker 2: is the part that would require a lot of conspiring
- 38:57Speaker 2: on the parts of a lot of different people. Yeah,
- 39:00Speaker 2: you have to go in and set those like you
- 39:03Speaker 2: can't just.
- 39:04Speaker 3: Someone told me and I saw this. It was one
- 39:06Speaker 3: of those like today I learned on Reddit was like,
- 39:09Speaker 3: uh oh, that's a pretty brutal burp. Uh, there's a
- 39:13Speaker 3: good there's a good conspiracy show because one of us
- 39:15Speaker 3: is a burping protein shakes and the other one is
- 39:17Speaker 3: smoking weed.
- 39:18Speaker 2: So I say, perfect, Yeah, and the person burping protein
- 39:22Speaker 2: shakes is the one with the mohawk.
- 39:24Speaker 3: Yeah, would you believe again? Perfect, Yeah, if you're a
- 39:27Speaker 3: dragon ball z fam I look like a skinny, fat
- 39:29Speaker 3: raccoon right now, which is funny to probably for you.
- 39:33Speaker 3: But I saw like the World Trade Centers were like
- 39:36Speaker 3: closed for like electrical work the day before, you know,
- 39:39Speaker 3: and like no one could find these electrical work. So
- 39:41Speaker 3: I I don't know, yeah, that's the thing. It would
- 39:44Speaker 3: again I'm afraid to be a nine to eleven guy, Adam.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Yeah, And and people are like, uh, well, you would
- 39:50Speaker 2: have to send people in there, and people would notice
- 39:52Speaker 2: that there were so many people in the World Trade
- 39:55Speaker 2: Center every single day.
- 39:58Speaker 3: Oh yeah that I.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Don't know that people would have necessarily noticed workers coming
- 40:04Speaker 2: in and out.
- 40:04Speaker 3: Oh, they would have been like, oh, it's gonna be
- 40:06Speaker 3: know the goddamn candid camera thing where they make the
- 40:08Speaker 3: bat they put a crocodile in the bathroom or whatever,
- 40:10Speaker 3: you know, And uh I read one of the things
- 40:14Speaker 3: I read researching this. One of the theories is that
- 40:16Speaker 3: they used thermite but put it in paint, which apparently
- 40:20Speaker 3: is a thing you can do.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Oh shit, you can you can uh paint with thermite
- 40:25Speaker 2: and then detonate that. But I don't know all the
- 40:28Speaker 2: science and logistics behind that or even if it's actually possible,
- 40:31Speaker 2: but that's one of the theories.
- 40:33Speaker 3: Sounds like a cool thing to like make in the backyard. Yeah,
- 40:36Speaker 3: I mean, like not for terrorism and essay, just to
- 40:39Speaker 3: you know, like paint a shed and then make a
- 40:42Speaker 3: shed fire. Yeah.
- 40:43Speaker 2: I don't know how you detonate it from there, but
- 40:45Speaker 2: hopefully it'll come out in.
- 40:46Speaker 3: The flaming seems like the only way.
- 40:50Speaker 2: It's probably that or flaming airplane. Yeah, that would do
- 40:53Speaker 2: that would do the trick.
- 40:54Speaker 3: That's a that's a just an airplane that's going to Cancun,
- 40:58Speaker 3: a gay airplane. Uh what guys.
- 41:01Speaker 2: One one fun factoid about this before we move on
- 41:05Speaker 2: to the last thing. The president of Iran, Akhmedinajad, has
- 41:09Speaker 2: actually come out. He holds a PhD in transportation engineering
- 41:15Speaker 2: and planning. For what that's worth, and he says two
- 41:18Speaker 2: planes hitting the World Trade Center would not have been
- 41:21Speaker 2: enough to bring it down. And after he said that,
- 41:24Speaker 2: al Qaeda reached out and said, hey, please stop saying that.
- 41:29Speaker 3: I love that. I don't he's a desist from al Qaeda.
- 41:33Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of that, because that, like,
- 41:36Speaker 2: is that them saying I don't get I don't get it.
- 41:40Speaker 3: I don't get it. Someone told me about al Qaeda
- 41:43Speaker 3: and and uh and nine to eleven. Like them doing
- 41:45Speaker 3: that was kind of like the moon landing for them,
- 41:48Speaker 3: like it proved that it was possible. You know, it
- 41:50Speaker 3: just gave him a lot of hope that like, oh
- 41:52Speaker 3: we can we can really get to the Western world,
- 41:54Speaker 3: you know.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, I just I thought that was a funny,
- 41:58Speaker 2: funny wrinkle.
- 41:59Speaker 3: Yeah, that that is fucking bizarre and hilarious. Yeah.
- 42:03Speaker 2: I always sometimes wonder if there's something to how much
- 42:08Speaker 2: everyone else in the Middle East hates that.
- 42:10Speaker 3: Guy, oh mackmodamage.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and if it's not, maybe like you never
- 42:16Speaker 2: know with us in the Middle East and like whether
- 42:18Speaker 2: we're really on the right side of some of these conflicts.
- 42:21Speaker 3: Yeah, and he might be the good guy over there,
- 42:25Speaker 3: but ritually the fact that everyone hates them, it might
- 42:27Speaker 3: be a good sign.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's so weird because I read that's
- 42:30Speaker 2: why we'll be at war with them, Like when you
- 42:32Speaker 2: hang I've hung out with like a bunch of Iranian
- 42:33Speaker 2: people and like, you know, like like from over there,
- 42:36Speaker 2: and it's very bizarre that that all the the you know,
- 42:39Speaker 2: there's all that fucked up shit going on with them,
- 42:41Speaker 2: and because the people are so nice, like and they're
- 42:43Speaker 2: so just friendly, and it's just like there's no kind
- 42:47Speaker 2: of like bitterness or like weirdness. They're just like so friendly.
- 42:51Speaker 2: And I'm just just odd. I don't know, like this
- 42:53Speaker 2: guy just I don't know how he stays in power.
- 42:56Speaker 3: And I read somewhere is this true? Still?
- 43:01Speaker 2: I read somewhere that Iran is like one of the
- 43:04Speaker 2: best or easiest places to get like sex change operations.
- 43:07Speaker 3: What and shit, that's weird.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Iran sex change documentary.
- 43:11Speaker 3: I'm feeling good about my claims. The Google suggested search
- 43:16Speaker 3: results air transsexuality in Iran. Oh, you've visited this page
- 43:21Speaker 3: five hundred times.
- 43:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It's a thing. Look it up.
- 43:27Speaker 2: It could be the exact opposite. Maybe it's it's very
- 43:30Speaker 2: very Oh yeah, be like others. There's a documentary from
- 43:35Speaker 2: two thousand and eight and it deals with the Iranian
- 43:40Speaker 2: government and transsexuals in Iran, and it's that's something I
- 43:46Speaker 2: should look into for another podcast.
- 43:49Speaker 3: That'd be fun. Oh yeah, you should watch this documentary.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Oh, there's a BBC article that says the gay people
- 43:55Speaker 2: pushed to change their gender.
- 43:57Speaker 3: Ah, maybe that's what it is. Also s how today
- 44:01Speaker 3: the BBC let lig write a thing about the hurricane
- 44:05Speaker 3: what And I was like.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Dude, what the fuck are you? That's insane. All right,
- 44:10Speaker 2: let's get to the last thing, which.
- 44:12Speaker 3: Uh, maybe making the news of business was a bad idea.
- 44:18Speaker 2: The last conspiracy that I have marked as almost definitely
- 44:24Speaker 2: Saudi intelligence agents met with the nine to eleven hijackers.
- 44:28Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, this was a rumor forever after
- 44:34Speaker 2: nine to eleven, and it became even more of a
- 44:37Speaker 2: rumor because there were twenty eight pages of the official
- 44:41Speaker 2: nine to eleven report that were redacted, and the rumor
- 44:46Speaker 2: was that those twenty eight pages included testimony and evidence
- 44:51Speaker 2: about a Saudi intelligence official meeting with two of the
- 44:55Speaker 2: nine to eleven hijackers and planners in Los Angeles not
- 44:59Speaker 2: long before nine to eleven happened, And it was always
- 45:03Speaker 2: the rumor. And then those redacted pages were finally released,
- 45:08Speaker 2: and they were still very heavily classified, but they were released,
- 45:11Speaker 2: and sure enough they that's exactly what was in them.
- 45:16Speaker 2: Was this all these details about this Saudi intelligence official
- 45:21Speaker 2: who came to the United States, or was in the
- 45:23Speaker 2: United States, met with two of the hijackers, lived with
- 45:26Speaker 2: them in San Diego for a while.
- 45:28Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, And.
- 45:31Speaker 2: His excuse or explanation was something like, yeah, I mean
- 45:37Speaker 2: I met these guys, but we just met at the
- 45:39Speaker 2: airport and hit it off, and so we decided to
- 45:44Speaker 2: combine our resources and move in together. I was just
- 45:47Speaker 2: helping them out. And it's like, probably not.
- 45:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the people planning like huge acts of
- 45:55Speaker 3: domestic terrorism aren't fucking usually the most friendly, like you're
- 45:59Speaker 3: you're not. They're not the type to chatchy up in
- 46:01Speaker 3: the line at Panera.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Yeah, and if this was not long before nine to
- 46:06Speaker 2: eleven happened, the Saudi government probably knew they were planning this.
- 46:10Speaker 3: Yeah, like you there's there's no way they wouldn't. The
- 46:13Speaker 3: Scotti government actually just gave Trump a bunch of swords
- 46:15Speaker 3: and paintings of himself, So I don't expect any kind
- 46:18Speaker 3: of repercussions from that. Well, yeah, I mean they have
- 46:21Speaker 3: that lawsuit that allowed people to soothe the Saudi Arabia
- 46:23Speaker 3: Arabian government and Obama blocked it, he vetoed it. Yeah,
- 46:27Speaker 3: I think that it got overridden and he just thought
- 46:29Speaker 3: it's set a dangerous president.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Right, it set a dangerous precedent in that there are
- 46:34Speaker 2: ally like a severe ally in the Middle East and
- 46:39Speaker 2: we need their support. Like, but I think it's pretty
- 46:44Speaker 2: clear that even if it nine to eleven wasn't an
- 46:47Speaker 2: officially sanctioned act of the Saudi government, that's the country
- 46:52Speaker 2: we should have been focusing our efforts on after nine
- 46:55Speaker 2: to eleven, as opposed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah, like
- 46:59Speaker 2: most of the the hijackers were Saudi's and in that case,
- 47:04Speaker 2: I've heard this, This argument came up a bunch when
- 47:07Speaker 2: we did go to war nine to eleven and dealing
- 47:10Speaker 2: with it should have been a police action. It should
- 47:14Speaker 2: have been a Munich kind of thing.
- 47:16Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well, the fact that we we that when
- 47:20Speaker 3: we declared war was like that declaration of war is
- 47:23Speaker 3: still being used today because by virtue of the way
- 47:26Speaker 3: the constitution works and related all this, you're if there's
- 47:29Speaker 3: a power that's associated with that pet you're allowed to
- 47:32Speaker 3: also make you know, action against them, And they've just
- 47:35Speaker 3: spread it out and they've basically been been using it,
- 47:37Speaker 3: you know, for everything else. And there's always Jeff Flake
- 47:41Speaker 3: and Tim Kaine, I think, just cosponsored a bill to
- 47:43Speaker 3: have as like a sunset resolution where like wars have
- 47:45Speaker 3: to be renewed every like six years or something like that,
- 47:48Speaker 3: because we've just been skating mind of the same one.
- 47:50Speaker 3: So Congress basically has no power other than like, you know,
- 47:53Speaker 3: they remember when they were trying to stop the war
- 47:55Speaker 3: in I Wreck with the power of the Purse, where
- 47:56Speaker 3: they're just like, well, we're just kinda cut the military
- 47:58Speaker 3: budget and then they're like, oh you guys, heye the troops.
- 48:00Speaker 3: And then they're like, oh, fuck, okay, I guess we
- 48:02Speaker 3: can't do that. You know, so it really it should
- 48:05Speaker 3: have been. But then you know, they had the whole
- 48:07Speaker 3: fucking aluminum tubes shit in Colin Powell's like speech to
- 48:11Speaker 3: the United Nations and everyone was just like, okay, well
- 48:13Speaker 3: fuck you America.
- 48:15Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's it was, uh.
- 48:18Speaker 3: The way the way NATO truths America is kind of
- 48:20Speaker 3: like this. They just found a smart girl to do
- 48:22Speaker 3: most of the school projects, and they're like, well, let's
- 48:25Speaker 3: be honest, if we don't, you're still gonna go, you know,
- 48:28Speaker 3: kill all the afghanies anyway. So we will just probably
- 48:31Speaker 3: hang out here and enjoy our freedom fries.
- 48:33Speaker 2: Yeah pretty much. So so Yeah, that one I with
- 48:38Speaker 2: conspiracy theories, I feel like once there's a document like
- 48:41Speaker 2: that that's an official government thing. Yeah, it's pretty much
- 48:45Speaker 2: not a conspiracy theory anymore, like government surveillance of John Lennon, Like,
- 48:51Speaker 2: that's that's the thing we confirmed, you know, that the
- 48:53Speaker 2: government was infiltrating all of these groups and following all
- 48:56Speaker 2: of these famous people and political figures in the seventies.
- 49:00Speaker 2: We find out that is true eventually because official documents
- 49:04Speaker 2: come out and this is kind of the same thing.
- 49:06Speaker 3: That's why this.
- 49:07Speaker 2: Is I think the most believable nine to eleven theory
- 49:11Speaker 2: is that the Saudi Saudi Arabia was obviously somehow involved.
- 49:16Speaker 3: Yep.
- 49:18Speaker 2: The world is a fucking scary world is a vampire.
- 49:22Speaker 3: I would will rather that the hologram planes were real
- 49:25Speaker 3: than that one.
- 49:25Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, that the hologram planes, because then
- 49:28Speaker 2: the possibilities are endless. Yeah, then we might see hologram
- 49:32Speaker 2: aliens at some point, and I'll take that too.
- 49:34Speaker 3: I think that would I think honestly that would be
- 49:35Speaker 3: a great way to fix the problems of the world
- 49:37Speaker 3: as make hologram aliens to united against the common foe.
- 49:41Speaker 2: That's that that isn't actually a theory. Oh really hologram aliens.
- 49:46Speaker 2: And then there's also a like one of the anti
- 49:49Speaker 2: Christ theories is that when the Anti Christ finally announces
- 49:53Speaker 2: his presence, he'll do it by way of a projection
- 49:56Speaker 2: in the sky that you can see around the world.
- 49:59Speaker 3: So it's gonna be like some kind of like Devil Batman.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, which at that point I'm gonna
- 50:05Speaker 2: be like Commissioner Gorg.
- 50:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 50:07Speaker 2: I might be scared at first, but I feel like
- 50:09Speaker 2: that might end in a slow clap because that's gonna
- 50:11Speaker 2: be pretty fucking impressive.
- 50:12Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's this is that's one for four
- 50:14Speaker 3: Chan is just convinced everyone the Anti Christ is back,
- 50:18Speaker 3: all right? Justin Bieber's playing in North Korea and uh yeah,
- 50:21Speaker 3: the the rivers are running red with blood. Good job, Anonymous.
- 50:25Speaker 2: All right, let's get the fuck out of here.
- 50:27Speaker 3: What do we have to plug?
- 50:28Speaker 2: Uh there's a Uh you're gonna be on the next
- 50:31Speaker 2: on Pop's Live show September twentieth, Yeah, baby at the
- 50:34Speaker 2: Alex Theater in Glendell. That's such a great fucking line up.
- 50:37Speaker 3: How much how much does that cost, it's gotta be
- 50:38Speaker 3: pretty expensive.
- 50:39Speaker 2: It is free, Connor what seven thirty pm? Doors open
- 50:43Speaker 2: show starts at eight. It's free. It's at the Alex
- 50:46Speaker 2: Theater in Glendale. If you go to event bright dot
- 50:48Speaker 2: com and search front pops you can reserve a spot.
- 50:51Speaker 2: Connor will be there. Lorie Kilmartin is headlining.
- 50:55Speaker 3: Oh man, she was way funnyer than me. Comes for
- 50:56Speaker 3: Love Kill.
- 50:57Speaker 2: Martin, way funnier than everybody's fantastic camp.
- 51:00Speaker 3: Greg Edwards is.
- 51:02Speaker 2: On it, Josh Danny Connor me, Uh, there's someone I'm forgetting.
- 51:08Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I hope they're below me because I'm pretty
- 51:11Speaker 3: much on the bottom wrong of that comedy tote of Paul.
- 51:14Speaker 3: I'm like, kind of should I didn't do Thug Notes
- 51:15Speaker 3: or get a Food Channel show?
- 51:17Speaker 2: So Thug Notes is pretty great. Shout out to Greg Edwards.
- 51:20Speaker 2: All right, what do you have to plug?
- 51:22Speaker 5: Well?
- 51:23Speaker 2: Nine to eleven we did a very special nine to
- 51:25Speaker 2: eleven Mean Boys with Steve rand is easy.
- 51:27Speaker 3: We take this holiday seriously, everybody. I'm jetting over to
- 51:30Speaker 3: my house to record it right now. We didn't exactly
- 51:34Speaker 3: tell Steve it was coming out on nine to eleven,
- 51:36Speaker 3: but I think he probably gathered through contra. Even if
- 51:39Speaker 3: he doesn't show up, you can still do it with him.
- 51:41Speaker 3: Oh well, I'll just be the Steve Randon's easy.
- 51:46Speaker 2: We should have had Steve rand Is Easy has been
- 51:49Speaker 2: on this podcast the whole time.
- 51:50Speaker 3: Also, hey guys, I was on the league. I don't
- 51:53Speaker 3: even know what he sounds like, well enough to can't.
- 51:55Speaker 3: He's not an impersonatable person, all right, Say goodbye Adam,
- 51:58Speaker 3: goodbye Connor. Uh I forget how this part goes, but goodbye,
- 52:04Speaker 3: goodbye everybody. We love you one