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LNC Says Beetlejuice So Many Times · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nerd On Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always
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  Speaker 1: is the ever awesome Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: Strickland stand and deliver.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any packages for you, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. Hi, everybody, welcome. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff to talk about today, although I think slightly
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  Speaker 2: lighter than last week. Of course, we were coming back
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  Speaker 2: from a hiatus last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this might actually be like a normal sized episode.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not make any promises, but we'll try. So. First off,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about stuff what we have seen
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  Speaker 2: and done since the last recording, and believe it or not,
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  Speaker 2: for one c I ve seen more than one thing.
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  Speaker 2: I did catch up on Dick Turpin, the completely made
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  Speaker 2: up Adventures of Dick Turpin to give its full title
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  Speaker 2: on Apple TV Plus. So what was fun is that
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  Speaker 2: in a recent episode, Jessica Hines was a guest star.
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  Speaker 2: She played Daisy in Spaced with Simon peg way Back
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  Speaker 2: in the Day, and Mark Heap was also on Space
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  Speaker 2: way Back in the day as Brian. So to me,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yay, it's like a spaced reunion here.
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  Speaker 2: Too bad we don't have Simon Peg and Nick Frosten
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  Speaker 2: here too, But that made me really excited. I did
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  Speaker 2: not recognize her at all. I had no idea she
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  Speaker 2: shows up. Well. First of all, she's playing a character
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  Speaker 2: who's got a very dramatic wig and costume and contact
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  Speaker 2: lenses and all this stuff that alter her appearance. But
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  Speaker 2: she's also wearing an outfit where her bosoms are thrust
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  Speaker 2: to heaven. And it was just like, I see it
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I was like, I know, I know
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  Speaker 2: this actress, but I don't know from where. And I
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  Speaker 2: had to look it up and then I was like,
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  Speaker 2: holy crap, that's Jessica Hines. She totally doesn't look like her.
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  Speaker 2: She was fantastic, really fun, really fun performance. One of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite episodes of Dick Turpin so far, which remains
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  Speaker 2: a very silly show, doesn't have a whole lot of
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  Speaker 2: substance to it. I wouldn't call it like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: brilliant satire or anything like that, but it's fun. And
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  Speaker 2: then I also watched damnsel that's the Dragon slayer type
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  Speaker 2: story where Millie Bobby Brown plays a young woman who
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  Speaker 2: is deceived into marrying a prince and then immediately dumped
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  Speaker 2: into a dragon's layer. I was, let me put it
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  Speaker 2: to you this way. I watched on one and a
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  Speaker 2: half time speed. Wow. Yeah, I never do that ever,
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  Speaker 2: but I did it for this movie because I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I do want to see it through, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to have to sit through the actual running time
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  Speaker 2: of the film. I was overall unimpressed. I thought the
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  Speaker 2: costuming was great. I thought Millie Bobby Brown was great,
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  Speaker 2: her performance was great. It was the script that was
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  Speaker 2: the problem. It wasn't anything else.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I've heard. I've heard that they've put it.
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  Speaker 1: They put in like, and I know this is a
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  Speaker 1: different problem from what you had, but they put in
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a a dios x makin a thing
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  Speaker 1: in there that then kind of gets ignored and you're
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  Speaker 1: wondering why nobody used it earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Magic slugs, Yeah, talk about magic slugs. Yeah, magic slugs
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  Speaker 2: are an issue. But no that that didn't even bother
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  Speaker 2: me so much as like, it's so obvious where the
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  Speaker 2: story is going from the beginning, and it doesn't take
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  Speaker 2: a particularly creative way to get to where it's going,
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  Speaker 2: so not only do you know where it's going, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have any real delight or surprises along the way.
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  Speaker 2: And then the resolution is done so quickly, which granted
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching it at one and a half time speed,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe that's part of the problem. But it happened
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  Speaker 2: so quickly that it wasn't very satisfying for me. So
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  Speaker 2: I like where. I like the movie's ambition, I like
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  Speaker 2: the performances, I loved the costuming and all of that,
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  Speaker 2: but it still fell flat as a story did to me,
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  Speaker 2: kind of like the way a lot of Marvel more
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  Speaker 2: recent Marvel films have sort of fallen short of where
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  Speaker 2: I would like them to be, Like I can recognize
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  Speaker 2: the craftsmanship, and I can really respect that, but it's
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  Speaker 2: still not the overall package is less than the sum
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  Speaker 2: of its parts. And then the other thing I watched
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  Speaker 2: was Night Court. I watched the more recent episodes and
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  Speaker 2: the reason why that's kind of germane to this discussion,
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  Speaker 2: apart from the fact that I refuse to stop watching
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  Speaker 2: despite despite it not being very good, like it still
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  Speaker 2: feels like a very dated sitcom like laugh Track and
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  Speaker 2: all but one is that there was a recent episode
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  Speaker 2: with Brent Spiner reprising his role as Bob Wheeler, the
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  Speaker 2: very unfortunate hay Seed character who you know, showed up
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  Speaker 2: in the original run of Night Court like six times,
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  Speaker 2: so that was kind of fun to see his character
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  Speaker 2: come back. And then the most recent episode guest starred
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  Speaker 2: Reese Darby as the Duke Gergs's boyfriend h and Dave
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  Speaker 2: Foley as his valet, and and that was that was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Still not great, but Reese Darby and Dave Foley both
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  Speaker 2: fully commit.
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  Speaker 1: That's you know, you gotta fully commit, you gotta fully commit. Yeah. I,
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, watched very little anything since we
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  Speaker 1: recorded last time. All weekend I had rehearsals and tabletop game,
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  Speaker 1: and then Monday I was doing film stuff, and Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: I was doing rehearsal, and Wednesday I went to go
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  Speaker 1: see Beetlejuice, the touring show the musical, and tonight I've
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  Speaker 1: got a gig and I've got rehearsals all weekend this
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  Speaker 1: weekend too, So a little light on the geeky viewing
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  Speaker 1: for me, But I have been trying to catch up
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  Speaker 1: on Fantasy High junior year on dropout, which some of
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  Speaker 1: the episodes I have to clutch my pearls. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: not lie. And then so you think you can dance,
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  Speaker 1: which is one of the things that I like geeking
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  Speaker 1: out about. I've never been an amazing dancer, but I
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  Speaker 1: love watching it. And this year they filmed at Pullman
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  Speaker 1: Yards in Atlanta, so locally.
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  Speaker 2: Right across the street from me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of not to.
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  Speaker 2: Dos myself, but I mean, like I literally could look
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  Speaker 2: out my window and see it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, going to have to go through some people, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of keeping an eye out because
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  Speaker 1: I think once they get to the actual competition, if
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  Speaker 1: they're still filming in Atlanta at that point, they'll need
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  Speaker 1: audience members. And while I don't do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: extra work because of the logistics between being an extra
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  Speaker 1: and a principal character or a speaking character, I would
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  Speaker 1: one thousand percent be an extra in that audience to
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  Speaker 1: watch some live dance. That would be really exciting to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not going to be the last time
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  Speaker 2: that we mentioned Beetle Juice either. As Ariel, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I had gone to see the touring show. We will
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  Speaker 2: be talking about Beetle Juice later, but don't worry, we
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  Speaker 2: won't talk about it a third time, so this podcast
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  Speaker 2: is safe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've said the name a whole bunch, which I
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  Speaker 1: will say. I absolutely going to the Fox. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of dressed. I didn't dress in costume, but I wore
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  Speaker 1: like a green velvet jet dress with fishnets and a
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  Speaker 1: lacey blero, so it was still kind of like appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: There are a bunch of people just dressed up as
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  Speaker 1: Beetle Juice, which I love. That happened on the Broadway
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  Speaker 1: show too. Just people who are really into the property.
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  Speaker 1: And I just said say m again.
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  Speaker 2: And in Atlanta, it's a city that's known for its
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  Speaker 2: cause players, largely big thanks to dragon Con and some
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  Speaker 2: other conventions that happened in the city. Like there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of places that have a lot of cosplayers,
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta has like perhaps an overabundance of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I am bounding when I see six
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  Speaker 1: later this year. But I had something that I thought
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  Speaker 1: was appropriate for Bille Juice, So I just want to
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  Speaker 1: head more. I really enjoyed the touring show. I thought
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  Speaker 1: the cast was amazing. It's it's hard not to compare
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  Speaker 1: the people you've seen in the performances between different times
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  Speaker 1: you've watched the performance, because everybody brings their own thing,
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  Speaker 1: right sure, and you want the show to grow and
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  Speaker 1: evolve with whatever the actor and the role is bringing
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  Speaker 1: to the table, because that way, it's more genuine and
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  Speaker 1: it's funnier because it's theirs. They aren't just trying to
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  Speaker 1: recreate somebody else's magic. So from that standpoint, it was
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  Speaker 1: it was wonderful. I loved watching everybody. There were some
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  Speaker 1: new jokes in it, which I loved, because of course,
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  Speaker 1: everybody brings their own things to the table. I think
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  Speaker 1: I heard an interview saying that Justin Colette, who is
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  Speaker 1: who is Beetlejuice in the touring show, most of the
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  Speaker 1: time he has understudies, but didn't ever really collaborate with
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  Speaker 1: Alex Brightman on the role, so it is completely his own.
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  Speaker 1: There of course beats that are written into the script
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  Speaker 1: that he hits and staging and all that, but he
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  Speaker 1: really did make it his own. It was delightful. I'm
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  Speaker 1: really glad I saw it on Broadway, just because they
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  Speaker 1: tried to keep the touring show as close to stage
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  Speaker 1: like staged as close to the original as possible, but
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  Speaker 1: they did have to change a lot of set pieces
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  Speaker 1: and some of the some of the special effects. They
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  Speaker 1: kept a lot of them, but some of them were gone,
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  Speaker 1: and well then I wasn't sure why. So, like on
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  Speaker 1: the Broadway version, Delia, who is the hippie girlfriend of
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  Speaker 1: the dad Catherine O'Hara in the movie, wears like a
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  Speaker 1: stripey dress to a dinner party, and then halfway through
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  Speaker 1: the dinner party, her dress gets caught and it unravels
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  Speaker 1: and she's in a mess dress and you see her
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  Speaker 1: underwear and like the bottom of the dress and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And it's very funny. And that's not in the touring show.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like that one they could have done. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if the costume, just switching it between all the
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  Speaker 1: people who play her would be difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not like, that's not like the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you know, oh, the stage doesn't have that particular trap
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  Speaker 2: door gimmick worked into it, so you can't really do
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  Speaker 2: that particular effect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the people were great. I was kind of
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  Speaker 1: that annoying person who was like, I would be one
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  Speaker 1: of the first people to cheer in places that I
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  Speaker 1: knew it was good to cheer. Other audience members did too,
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  Speaker 1: but I think a couple of times I started it,
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  Speaker 1: and I know as an actor, when I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: do a funny show, it is a thousand times better
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  Speaker 1: when you have a responsive audience. So I might have
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  Speaker 1: annoyed the people around me, including my husband, but I
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  Speaker 1: kind of don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean as also an actor who well
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  Speaker 2: not anymore, but back in the day when I was
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  Speaker 2: an actor, to be on the stage and do a
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  Speaker 2: comedy and they're not there's no response is soul crushing
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  Speaker 2: and you're saying there, I think, especially if it's like
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  Speaker 2: early on in the show and it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: a big beat that gets a big laugh and nothing happens.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, I still have an hour and a half
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  Speaker 2: to go with this, Yeah, and it's not gonna get
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  Speaker 2: easier and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and beatles juice, especially such a fast paced, high
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  Speaker 1: energy show. There are some mellow moments, but they're far
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  Speaker 1: and few between. I will say, like, honestly, the biggest
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  Speaker 1: issue I had was that where I was sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the back of the orchestra section, underneath the the balcony section,
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  Speaker 1: underneath the loge, it was quiet, So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's a common problem in The Fox, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: really noticed it every time that I've been there. But
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  Speaker 1: this time, like the act the actors, the performers, we
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  Speaker 1: get to a really like powerful moment where they're belting
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  Speaker 1: and the music is supposed to swell and it's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to like move you, right, it's supposed to like if
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  Speaker 1: like the vibration should move you, not painfully loud, but
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  Speaker 1: like you should feel it. And it kind of felt
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  Speaker 1: like easy listening radio because the volume was just down.
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  Speaker 1: There was nothing that was like there was nothing that
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  Speaker 1: rushed over me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds to me like that was a technical
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  Speaker 2: issue because I've never experienced that necessarily in the Fox,
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  Speaker 2: or at least nothing is standing out to me. But
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  Speaker 2: it is a complicated space to work inside. So it
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  Speaker 2: could very well be that whatever the touring companies set
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  Speaker 2: up is wasn't playing nicely with the Fox. I will.
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  Speaker 2: I do remember seeing the producers at the Fox and
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  Speaker 2: the night I went, what's the sweetish character's name? You
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  Speaker 2: can just say the first name, not the whole name.
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  Speaker 2: Ula Ulla's number when you've got it flaunted. Her microphone
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  Speaker 2: gave out, and so like halfway through the song, her
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  Speaker 2: MIC's gone, and then at one point a hand from backstage,
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  Speaker 2: like an upstage door. The door opens and a handsticks
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  Speaker 2: out holding a hand microphone, and she grabs the hand
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  Speaker 2: mike and does the rest of the song, which of
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  Speaker 2: course doesn't work out great because she's got gestures during
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  Speaker 2: the song, so there are moments where the microphone's not
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  Speaker 2: pointed at her mouth, and like the volume just suddenly
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  Speaker 2: drops to like thirty percent. I remember that distinctly because
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  Speaker 2: I was like, how unfortunate that it happens during her
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  Speaker 2: one big number, And but that was like, that was
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  Speaker 2: something that obviously was a technical glitch in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if this was something similar, or
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe it was just poorly adjusted for the
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  Speaker 2: Fox set up. I don't know. But other than that
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  Speaker 2: one standout moment that I remember, I don't have any
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  Speaker 2: experiences that were similar to that, where and I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of hard of hearing. I'm getting more hard of hearing
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  Speaker 2: as I get older, because I saw too many punk
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  Speaker 2: rock shows when I was I was in college, and
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  Speaker 2: and so I typically do notice those things. It's only
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  Speaker 2: a matter of time before I'm going to have to
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  Speaker 2: have those hearing assists setups so that I can really
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  Speaker 2: enjoy shows without turning to my wife and saying, why
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  Speaker 2: did he say?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I you know, I do have tonight as
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  Speaker 1: so that might a little bit of it. But I
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  Speaker 1: haven't found it affecting my overall hearing much. I can
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  Speaker 1: still hear minute things around the house, and he keeps
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  Speaker 1: me up at night. I think I think it was
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  Speaker 1: just a little quiet. Maybe it was a little quieter
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  Speaker 1: for me, but I do think I do think that
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  Speaker 1: that it didn't hurt the performances. The performances were still phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: It was just that it lost some of the the punch.
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  Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, but it.
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  Speaker 1: Was still very impressive. I still highly recommend the touring
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  Speaker 1: show if you get the chance to see it. It's
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  Speaker 1: so much fun. It's just it's just a delight. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna laugh, you're gonna groan, you're gonna cheer its, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna gasp at snakes, you're gonna go, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: that's really cool. I didn't expect them to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, highly recommend. Now I've talked way too long
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  Speaker 1: about the touring show.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think that's great, Like it's fantastic to
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  Speaker 2: hear you talk about something that you're really excited about.
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  Speaker 2: And one other thing that Ariel is very excited about
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  Speaker 2: is the fact that she's got a musical gig tonight.
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  Speaker 2: It will be be singing and playing and entertaining, which
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  Speaker 2: means we got to get this show on the road
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  Speaker 2: so that miss Ariel can get her Patuti ready for
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  Speaker 2: her gig. Yes, so that means moving on to our
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds or less. And this week I'm gonna go first,
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  Speaker 2: So here we go. You might remember last week that
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  Speaker 2: Ariel and I were not swept off our feet by
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: the trailer for the reboot of The Crow, and it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like Alex proyas the director of the original film adaptation,
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  Speaker 2: shares our concerns. Moreover, Proya says that while he never
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  Speaker 2: wants to dismiss the hard work that folks have clearly
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  Speaker 2: put into this new movie, he viewsed the original film
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  Speaker 2: as a work that was made in honor of Brandon Lee,
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  Speaker 2: who tragically died during the filming. Quote it's his legacy.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it should remain end quote. I don't disagree,
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  Speaker 2: But then we've already had so many terrible sequels to
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  Speaker 2: that movie too, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, true, Okay. On a slightly more original note, vaguely,
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  Speaker 1: it's based off mythology, so it's still not like uber original.
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  Speaker 1: Netflix is doing a mythological dark comedy television series called Chaos.
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  Speaker 1: It stars Jeff Goldbloom as Zeus and kind of how
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  Speaker 1: he's not always the best people person and then like
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  Speaker 1: six people gang up I guess to kind of overthrow him.
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  Speaker 1: There's not a lot of information on it. There's like
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  Speaker 1: a fifty second teaser trailer from Netflix, but again, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't show a lot. I had to actually kind of
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  Speaker 1: read up on the premise to get more information on it.
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  Speaker 1: But it looks exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this shows how my memory works in my head.
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  Speaker 2: I had to replaced Jeff Goldbloom with Nicholas Cage, So
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: when you said Jeff Goldbloom, I'm like, oh wait, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: It's not Nicholas Cage for once, who is supposedly retiring
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  Speaker 2: from acting. But anyway, that's an your point. Here we go.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: You've got poo on your universe. At least that's what
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Jagged Edge Productions is trying to do. The studio that
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: brought us Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey and its
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  Speaker 2: sequel plan to launch a connected universe of low budget,
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  Speaker 2: public domain IP horror adaptations, including works like Price Yourself, Aerial, Pinocchio,
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  Speaker 2: Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, and Banby. No
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  Speaker 2: beloved classic character will go unsullied.
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  Speaker 1: It seems, yeah, I am not looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: Something I'm also like not looking forward to, but only
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  Speaker 1: because it's still kind of a rumor. Is that The
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Sun reports that Aaron Taylor Johnson, who was kick Ass,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: he was Quicksilver in Age of Ultron, he was Tanderine
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: in Bullet Train, has been offered the role of James Bond.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: You know, we don't always talk about rumors, but the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Times magazine. Time Magazine is talking about this, so probably
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: has some weight to it. He hasn't accepted yet and theory,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: so that's a thing.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I love the thought of James Bond potentially talking like
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Tangerine and bullet Train because because it's a very lower class,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: kind of working class kind of accent that he used
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: for Bullet Train, so I can just imagine it like, yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Voca Martini, isn't it? Shake it not stood mine? Like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I love the idea that that's how James Bond would talk,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and I would pay to see. I haven't seen like
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: most of the recent James Bond movies, but I would
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: make it a point to go see that one. Yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: So, Bond producers, if you're listening, Jonathan's giving you that idea.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll buy a ticket. I know that
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just one person, but I haven't gone to any
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of the more recent movies, so that's saying something. So
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: next up, would Bill Hayter do voiceover on a boat?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Would Bill Hayter do voiceover with a goat? The answer
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: it appears to be yes, as Hater has been tapped
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: to provide the voice of the cat in the Hat.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: A new animated adaptation of the Doctor Seuss work is
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: in production and aims to release in March of twenty
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: twenty six. So we'll have a little while to wait
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and see if it's a delightful project or if, like
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: fellow SNL along Mike Myers, Hayter's version should just be forgotten.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: For some reason, I'm more on board with Hater than
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Mike Myers or Jim Carrey. I don't know why. I
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: don't know why. Same so dead Boy Detectives are a
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: couple of DC characters that showed up and do Patrol,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and then they were going to get their own spin off,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: but with different actors, and then you know, everything blew
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: up with DC and changed hands and all that. But
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: apparently we are still getting Dead Boy Detectives on Netflix.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: It's gonna just be their show, and we don't have
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a release date yet.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yep. So that's why it's in thirty sive G's or less.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: The Teen Titans, a group of superheroes who mostly got
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: their start being sidekicks to more established heroes, are going
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: to get their very own live action film adaptation, maybe
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: because we are talking about Warner Brothers Discovery here, so
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: it's possible they'll cast and film the whole thing and
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: then never release it. But Anna Noguera is writing the
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: screenplay as well as she's writing the screenplay for a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Supercirl film, and I am cautiously curious about how it
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: turns out. As long as David Zaslov says it can
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: actually go to theaters.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Here's hopein if it can get the like the the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: tune of Sorry I Know that's thirty seconds long, If
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: it can get the feel of light. Teen Titans or
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: teen Titans go and not necessarily Titans. I'm all for it. Lastly,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Marvel Zombies is a project that we know is coming out,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: but now we know that it is not going to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: be kid friendly. It is going to be raded mature
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: more so than if So yeah, just be aware. I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: hope it's not as bleak as Walking Dead, that's all
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Having read at least some of the Marvel Zombies comics,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I can definitely say that if it's at all similar
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: to that source material, there's gonna be a lot of
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: upsetting stuff that happens in this series because it turns
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: out superheroes are not necessarily a immune to becoming zombified,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: and it just takes one or two particular heroes to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: turn into zombies for that stuff to spread like wildfire.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, prepare yourself for a pretty dark storyline.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is it for thirty seconds or less.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: As always, we nailed it. Okay, So moving on, let's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: talk about some of the trailers. What came out since
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the last week. We know every week, I think, okay, good,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: we're caught up. Now we'll just have maybe two or
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: three trailers to talk about, and every week it seems
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like there's a dozen, although sometimes we decide not to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: cover one, either because the film doesn't fully fall into
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the geek category, or it's like trailer number four for
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a series we've already talked about.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but which means there's a couple we could technically
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: cut out from this if we need.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a couple we could cut out, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: probably won't. So first up is the trailer for a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Star Wars series that honestly I had forgotten was going
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to happen. I mean, I remember when they announced it,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: but I forgot that it was a thing, which is
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: The Acolyte. It's funny because Ariel found the trailer and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: it was I think the day after I saw the poster,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: like the teaser poster for the series, and I went, wow, yeah, okay,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: this really is a thing that I just totally forgot about.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: What did you think of the trailer for The Acolyte.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Well, originally I was excited because they were like, it's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be like a Rein Johnson film Noir, which it
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't quite feel like that anymore. I like it. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: realized that it's another prequel kind of, but it doesn't
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: have to do with the Skywalkers per se. I I'm
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be real honest here. It's got many Jacinto and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I really justin to I don't know how to pronounce
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: his last name from the good place, and I really
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: like him, and so I look forward to seeing him
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in something else.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Like that's fair, you know, looking forward to seeing an
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: actor you like in another project has always I think
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a fair thing. But yeah, it takes place one hundred
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: years before the prequel films happen, and to me, that's boring.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And the reason why I think it's boring is because, Okay,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: so The Acolyte is taking place during the toward the
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: end of the High Republic, where you've got, you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the Jedi Order, and you've got this character who appears
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: to be intent on destroying the Jedi Order as best
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: they are able. But we know from the prequels that
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the Jedi Order is extremely robust, that in fact, at
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that point in the prequels, the assumption is that the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Sith don't even exist anymore, and that you know, essentially
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the Jedi are all that's really left of at least
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: force users, that maybe there's some dark Jedi out there
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: or Dark Force users out there, but that's it. So
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: it tells me that whatever this happens in the Acolyte,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the status quo is maintained, because you'd have to in
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: order for the prequels to make sense.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I got this in my mail and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, I just got this in my email,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to watch it. That's why we got
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it right after the image was released. I hadn't forgotten
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it was coming out. It was one of the things
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I was actually more excited about because it felt different
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: from the description. I will say the second time watching
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the trailer, I put it on one and a halftime speed,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and at that time it felt like maybe it was
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: going at a reasonable not slow pace. Maybe it's because
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I'm in a rush today, it's.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Just because The Acolyte is little known as a sequel
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to Damsel.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, It's not the only thing I watched
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: on rush speed today, But I don't know. I am excited. Also,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's got the lead actor from Squid Games, so I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: look forward to seeing him.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Do more stuff. I mean, I'll probably I mean I
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: say I'll probably watch it, but I still haven't watched
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and or I still haven't watched the finals the latest
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: season of the Mandalorians. So like there's Star War, there's
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Star Wars stuff. I never I never saw Obi Wan
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: now that I think about, like there's a growing list
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: of Star Wars properties that I just haven't watched.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had never finished and or I know I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: lose my geek cred for that. I watched like the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: first three or four episodes and it just didn't rab me.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: And then I haven't watched Ahsoka yet but I want
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to and forgot Mandalorian. Mandalorian season three was just okay, so.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I heard. So uh yeah, Well the problem
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I had with getting back into the Mandalorian was that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: episode of the Book of Boba Fet where you just
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I thought the Mandalorian reuniting with Grogu
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: was gonna be this whole big thing, like that was
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: going to be like a season long arc, but no,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you you resolved it in an episode of a show
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: that wasn't even your show.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yep.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I know, like one or two people who enjoyed Boba Fett,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Well they're wrong. Speaking of one and or two, Uh
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: we got a trailer for part two of Rebel Moon
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the Scargiver.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Rebel Moon is the science fiction series where
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: you know, is it Christopher Nolan? I think it's Nolan,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: right who did it? It's he was originally going to
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: do a Star Wars film and that kind of fell through,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: so he ended up doing Rebel Moon, which is just
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I think'nder Oh, Snyder, you're right, Zack Snyder, not Nolan. Yes,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: you're absolutely.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Right, it was Nolan.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: It would be shorter, yeah, it would also be darker
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: and better. Snyder. Yeah, no, it's totly Snyder. I don't
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: know why my head went with Nolan in that case,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: but thank you for the correction. Zack Snyder doing Rebel Moon.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: He was supposed to do some Star Wars stuff, fell through,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: ended up doing Rebel Moon, which is a very very
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: very very thinly veiled like path like almost a parody
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: of Star Wars. Not intentionally a parody, but it's so
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: clearly like a story that was meant to go in
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the Star Wars universe and now has just been very
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: lightly scrubbed so that the Star Wars Wrecked references are removed.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: But you watch this trailer and it's so apparent that
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: was like to the point where people have like laser
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: swords and they're fighting with each other that you're like, yeah,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: this clearly was originally meant to be a Star Wars film.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's like a Midsommer droid and that's what
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the droid looks like to me. It looks like it
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: came out of Midsummer. I will say, like watching the trailer,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: this is the other one that I watched on like
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: one and a half time speed. At first, I was like, Okay,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm interested in the second half, and then like
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I got so disinterested so quickly that I kind of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: zoned out briefly in the middle and to go back
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and rewatch it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's very It's also we've already made
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: this comparison, but it's very clearly a retelling of Seven
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Samurai Magnificent Seven. It's that story like this just nails
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: it home even more about a group of former warriors,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: most of whom have given up fighting for one reason
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: or another, reuniting and trying to teach a group of
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: humble farmer types how to defend themselves against an overwhelming threat.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: It's the same story and this just this really drives
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that home.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, are we getting more? Is there more parts?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I know that the original cut is very, very, very long.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I remember hearing that there was supposed to be like
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of movies in this series. But I
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: could be mixing that up with Avatar, which also has
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of movies that are supposed to come out.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't remember. I knew at one time.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I think it was something like there're going to be
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: two movies because Netflix said it's too long for one movie,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: our viewership won't finish it. But then there's actually more
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that he wants to put in there, So we're also
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: going to get a director's cut that's gonna be like
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: very long.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Oh good, a Snyder cut. Never heard about that before.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: You know, it's whatever.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Actually, I hear that the Snyder cut of Justice League
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: is in every single way better the theatrical cut.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I disagree. I think both the theatrical and this, I
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: mean we've talked about this before. Both the theatrical and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the Snyder version are incomplete. Because the Snyder version didn't
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: do any of the things that I loved in the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: theatrical version, it left those out, so it didn't keep
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the good parts, and it was way too much. Snyder
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: likes to make pretty things, and he makes pretty things,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: but it makes his stories really long. And I could
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: move with a little I like a noir pace and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I like artie stuff, but I could use with a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: little less chaff. I guess got it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how much chaff is in our
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: next thing. But we watched also a trailer for a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: science fiction film that's going to be on Netflix called Atlas,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and I just remember mechs and the feeling of a
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: character being abandoned on a planet and feeling helpless, And
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: it made me think of a few different properties as
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I watched it. It made me think a little bit
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: of gravity, like this character who is trying to survive
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: in a circumstance that is incredibly dangerous. It also made
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: me think a little bit of Oh my gosh, Matt
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Damon did a film adaptation of it, The Martian, Thank you. Yes,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: it made me think of The Martian as well. I'm
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: batting a thousand when it comes to a membring one on, Mars. Well,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you gotta remember Ariel I had a medical issue that
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: happened in January that literally killed half my brain.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So, oh, did it really? I'm sorry, Well not.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I've literally killed half my brain, but it definitely back now.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It definitely impacted my ability to remember things.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I taught daycare for ten years. When I came
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: out of that situation, I felt very dumb because all
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: of the big adult things that I learned I hadn't
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: used for ten years. So I understand got it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, what did you think of Atlas? I I
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: mostly came away from it thinking that it looked okay,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: but there was nothing that convinced me I needed to
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: watch it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: It looked okay, Jennifer Lopez looked like she did a
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: good acting job in it. It was weird because on
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the one hand, they're like, this woman who hates Ai
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: might have to rely on it. But on the other hand,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the villain is Ai, and so I'm really confused about
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the log line. And this is the first I've heard
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of Atlas. This one kind of snuck past my radar.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: So I might watch it if I have an afternoon.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I'm keeping a very long list of things that I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: need to watch, including like I still haven't watched living
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: with myself with Paul Rudd.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean it doesn't look bad. I'll
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: say that it doesn't look like it's bad. I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the problem is that because it looks like these other things,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: or are just like the trailer made me think of
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: these other things. It's that feeling of I don't get
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the sense that the story is going to tell me
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: anything new, and therefore all I'll be doing is comparing
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: it against the other material that I see as being similar.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, speaking of new material being similar
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to old material. We got another trailer for Furiosa.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the prequel to Mad Max Fury Road, and I
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: don't know. The trailer looks good to me, Like it
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: looks looks like a really like high octane, no pun
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: intended action film. Anya Taylor Joy looks like she's nailing
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: it as Furiosa. Chris Hemsworth looks like he's having a
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: heck of a time playing a character who at one
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: point is riding in a chariot drawn by motorcycles. Like
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: it looks it looks so stylized in that Mad Max universe,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm totally okay that it's a Mad Max movie
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: that does not have Mad Max in it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same, I wish I had Nicholas Holt as nuts
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in it. But uh so, I like looking at a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: picture of Charlie's Sarn, I can see how Anya Taylor
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Joy could be a younger version of her, But when
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I watch her on screen, I don't think she looks
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: like Charlie's Sarn. So that's something that I'm having to
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: get past. I also think it looks like a very
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: high octane, fun, energetic movie. It looks like they're putting
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: more plot into it then I'm used to a Mad
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Max movie having. But Anya Taylor Joy is a great
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: actress and I think she'll do great. The thing that
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: got me in this trailer is they show some more
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of her as a child, and I looked up the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: child actor and she doesn't really look like Anya Taylor Joy,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: but the child in the movie does. So they've even
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: either done some like uh I don't want to say,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: they've either done some cgi or some makeup stuff to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: make her look just like current Ania Taylor Joy was
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: much younger, which is a thing they do when they
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: d age people. They don't make them look how they
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: actually did younger. They make them look like they do
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: now but younger, so interesting.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Now but smaller.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I have been looking forward to this ever since I
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: saw Mad Max Fury Road and then heard that there
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: was going to be a Furiosa film, because I really
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: enjoyed Mad Max Fury Road. Arguably, Max is not a
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: super important character because as he's so he typically is
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: so reserved and quiet and very He's a very reluctant
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: hero that it didn't bother me that we were going
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to branch out in the Mad Max universe and tell
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: a story that doesn't have him in it. And Yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I just think that the design, the aesthetic, it continues
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to have this sort of diesel punk thing going on
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that I'm really digging. So I'm hopeful that this ends
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: up being as gripping of an experience to watch in
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the theater as Fury Road was. Same, Yeah, because I
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: mean that movie. Really, certain movies I think kind of
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: send a message that I wish Hollywood would pay attention
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: to more. Fury Road is one of those. Another one
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: is the recent Godzilla film, where you can see studios
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that are creating phenomenal, engaging stories without having to you know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: go bonkers with CGI and visual effects and all that
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff and it's still a really effective experience
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: to see in the theaters.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, speaking of speaking of that, we're getting a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: brand new, highly anticipated, all original biopic about peoples in
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the Star Trek universe. We just got a trailer for
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Alien Romulan, a wonderful biopic.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: No, sorry, I hate to interrupt you here, Ariel, think
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: you misread the thing that you typed in into our
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: not to not to not to blow the cover on
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: your joke. No, we've got a trailer for Alien Romulus.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: It's another entry into the Alien as in Xenomorph series.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: The thing I'll say about this, it's not really I
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's a trailer. It's really more of a teaser.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And what I would say about this teaser is that
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to me, it looks like this more than almost any
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: other film after the original makes it look like they're
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: going hardcore back into the horror elements of the franchise.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: The last Alien movie it wasn't Prometheus. It was the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Alien Covenant. I don't what. No, Prometheus was like a prequel. Yeah,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: but there was like an Alien movie that came out.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I tried to watch and I had to turn off
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: in the first like ten minutes in my horror. I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: have a friend who loves horror stuff who is over
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the house also was like Nope, this is too much,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and we turned it off. They probably could have gotten
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: through it. But yeah, this feels a lot more in
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: line with like the first movie to me.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, which I'm totally on board with. Like
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like James Cameron when he directed Aliens, which,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: by by the way, I still think of as just
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: as good as the first film. It's just very different
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: from the first film. But with Aliens things started to
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: take more of a turn toward action rather than horror.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: And then later Aliens films I felt almost explored other
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: sub genres while you know, you still maintain some of
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the horror to it, but you had things like mystery
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: or drama thrown in and.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of body gore, a lot of body horror.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there'd be body horror whenever you were talking about
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: an attack with Alien. But it wasn't like the film
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: itself was all about ratcheting up tension and then having
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: big outbursts, right, It wasn't. It didn't have the qualities
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: that you would associate with horror as like a horror film.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It was just a film that had horror elements to it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: This one looks like it's a freaking horror movie, and
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I think it looks pretty good,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: just as much horror as the next film that's in
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: our lineup.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Horror and the Purple Cran. No, Harold in the
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Purple Cran. My reading comprehension apparently has gone out the window. Yeah,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Harold in the Purple Cran a property that Jonathan is
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: not familiar with. We talked about it the other day
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: on the show. And now we've got a trailer. So
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: there's this really big trend in the past few weeks
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: of here's your first look, here's or here's a poster,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: now here's your trailer. And I'll put like, okay, we
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: get to see the poster, let's talk, let's hypothesize about it,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and then the trailer comes out, like we want is
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I gonna throw that note out the window?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but why did you think of the trailer?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: It's okay. I I love the Harold in the Purple
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Cran books. I think they're delightful. I love the idea
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: of drawing something into existence. I know Zachary Levi has
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: played young brains and adult bodies recently Am Shazam. But
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and that's like, it's an okay choice, and he's I'm
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: sure he'll play being naive about the real world. Just fine.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I just it feels a little less genuine and fun
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and exciting because it's not a kid doing it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: To me, it feels it's weird because to me, it
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: feels maybe it's an attempt to appeal to multi generational audiences, right,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's an attempt to appeal both to kids and
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to the kids' parents by making it kind of almost
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: like a meta commentary, like there's some some like it's
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: kind of making fun of itself a little bit in
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the trailer. But at the end of it, I thought,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: this almost feels to me like it's trying to target
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: grown ups who read the books as children more than
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: it's targeting children. Drin. Yeah, And that was largely due
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: to the types of humor we saw on display in
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: the trailer. And it didn't appeal to me. I didn't.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I have no desire to see this movie. But then
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I have no connection to the original source material either.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But even without that, I don't I don't look at
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: this and say, oh, this looks fun. It just I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: don't know. To me, I look at this and I
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: see like a series of decisions made by committee in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: an attempt to cash in on an existing ip, which
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: is very cynical, and I hope I'm wrong about it,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: but I can't help but get that feeling.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's the way it feels to me too.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I want it to be better than that because I
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: like the books. But I guess we'll see or you
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: won't see.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'll just hear about it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Next, we've got a second trailer for Fall
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Guy came out, which I already thought looked like a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: cool movie. It still does, but I'm really worried this
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: new trailer just gives us all of the plot.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because now with this trailer, it's revealed that the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the stuntman character that that is that is the fall
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Guy that he ends up being tapped to look into
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the disappearance of the lead actor who is in this
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: big action film has just gone missing and then gets
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: pulled into running away from bad guys. I don't know
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: that there's too much given away. I think you had
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: to have at least something in a trailer to indicate
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: why are people out to get him? Like, because otherwise
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you're just like, why is a stunt man like facing
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: death in the real world, you know, not even on
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the movie set. Why are people trying to hurt him?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I think you had to have at least some indication
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: as to what was going on. It's still an incredibly
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: outlandish premise, the idea of this person who is not
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: in law enforcement at all being tapped to go and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: check into a disappearance. But then this is based off
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: a television series in which a stuntman character did go
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: around and like fight with bad guys and stuff, So
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: you got to give it some leeway.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it looks fun in my brain,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: my head canon. The movie that they're working on is
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Rincede Repeat, and Ryan Gosling is the stuntman for Tom
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Cruise and Emily Blunt is the actress and the director.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Just because one of the scenes kind of looks like
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: it explosions and sand and stuff.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: What was the other title of that movie? Because I
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: know I saw it, but.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: It wasn't called That Day After Tomorrow.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's the one I saw. Yeah, Yeah, I
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: don't know. It looks fun. Ryan Gosling's very charismatic guy,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: so maybe maybe I'll check it out because it does
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: look like a kind of fun film, and and he
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: has great chemistry with Emily Blunt, so maybe that'll who.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I think Emily Blunt is just able to have great
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: chemistry with everybody.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's her. I think that's her superpower. So
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: so there's there are enough reasons to want to check
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: it out now. I don't know if I'll have enough
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: reasons to check out a new entry into the never
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Ending Story saga.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: What I so for a very long time, I'm like,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I love the never Ending Story. They should never remake
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: it because they're gonna use CGI and it's gonna make
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: it dumb. But I'm a huge fan of the book.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I actually got the book for Christmas and I'm rereading
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: through it. The book is far superior to the movies.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Movie follows the book pretty well, the second movie kind
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: of follows the book, and the third movie shouldn't exist.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: But never any story movies. But I'm i if they
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: go with practical effects, I think that an updated version
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: may not be the worst thing, especially if they are
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: more true to the source material. But I do think
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting. The studio that has picked it up, Yes,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: the Seesaw studio, Right Films, Yes, because the things that
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: they have been done. They have done is stuff like
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Lion and The King's Speech. Yeah, what you mean a
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: bunch of movies.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: You see the King's Speech and you're like, well, clearly
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get ourselves a luck dragon from the same studio.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently they do have like a teen suspense or
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: some kind of show that I've not watched because it's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a UK based show. But yeah, I'll I'm sure they
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: can do fantastical stuff. I'll be interested to see what
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: they come up with at the very morbidly curious.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: At the very least, as I understand it, it's going
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: to be a two hour film showing a horse slowly
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: sinking into quicksand.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Jonathan, Yeah, Jonathan, what, There's so much more to the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: movie than that.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: It's the scene that traumatized my generation.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it traumatizes every generation that watches it. But
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: then there's also like the giant turtle that sneezes on you, and.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Well that they'll have to save that for one of
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the sequels, because the first film is just going to
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: be a horse sinking into quicksand for two hours.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Racing the racing snail. That's like a knockoff Doctor Doolittle character.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: And uh yeah, but horse sinking I think is really
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: money in the bank for episode one. So this is
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: where we loop around and we have our second not
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: really story because well you were telling a story about
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: seeing Beetlejuice the musical on tour. But we have a
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: teaser for the film sequel to the original Beetlejuice. It
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: is of course called Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, which makes you think
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: is there going to be a third film? So we
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: actually get Beetle Juice beetle Juice. You know, But why'd
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: you think of this teaser? Ah, there's not much to it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: There's not much to it. I think aesthetically it looks good.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: It's weird that Lydia hasn't changed her esthetic at all
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: in like thirty forty years.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: But it makes why known a rider look like twenty
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: years younger to jump back into it. Ye, the Beetlejuice
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: bankup does not make Michael Keaton look twenty years younger.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: No, he looks. He looks like Beetlejuice has had some
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: miles of hard road behind him.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So everything leading up to his appearance in the trailer,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I thought it was fine. You know, it's it's setting
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a scene when when he shows up, gives Beetle Juice
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: shows up and he says the juice is loose. I
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: can't tell if Michael Keaton is just not enthused or
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: if Beetle Juice is kind of being sheepish, like come back.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, we only get the one line from him, so.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: There's no energy to it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Well that's one line and one shot that may not
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: even be in the movie. I'll wait till we get
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: our full trailer to see more of him, because I
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: can't imagine Michael Keaton putting in a reserved performance for Yeah,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: for that character, he's going to have like that frenzy
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: and energy, I'm sure of it. We get to see
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a little bit of Jenna Ortega. We get to see
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the three women of the household at what appears to
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: be a funeral. So I'm imagining Lydia's father has passed away.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which it's interesting because there are so Jeffrey Jones,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the gentleman who played the father got into a bunch
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of trouble for doing a bunch of really bad stuff. Yes, yes,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: so I'm certain that Timberton would not want to use
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: him in the movie even if it were an option.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know anyhow, but if they kill the father,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: killing somebody does not set them up to be out
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: of the movie necessarily in a Beetlejuice movie.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: So well, Also it makes you wonder what happened to
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the Maitlands, right, because yeah, they be because the movie
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: also they go back to the house like it's the
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: house from the first Beetle Juice film. You see the
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: giant a model of the town that's in there too.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: In fact, that's where Beetlejuice emerges. So where did the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Maitlands go because I thought there. I can't remember from
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the first film how long their haunt was supposed to last,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: because they do say like how long they're supposed to
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: be there before whatever else happens in the afterlife, which
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: we never we never learn what that is in the
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: first film. But I would have imagined that the Maitlands
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: would still supposed to be like haunting that house. So
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I'm very curious to in my head when I was
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: thinking Beetlejuice sequel, I never imagined it was going to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: take place in the same house. I thought it was
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: going to be a new location.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe with new people, kind of like the
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Jamunji sequel.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I want to say that there was once a rumor
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: about a sequel taking place in Hawaii, like it literally
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: was going to be taking I might be making that up,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: but in my head, I remember there being talked early
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: on of a sequel that takes place in Hawaii, and
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: that it almost is a send up of those old
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: like like television sitcom specials of like the sixties and
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: seventies where characters would go to a place like Hawaii.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard that too, And maybe it's
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: a fever dream, or maybe we just both matched up
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: to articles together in our brain.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: It's entirely possible.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do know, because I was reading because right
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: before the trailer, like the day before the trailer came out,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: they dropped a first look of the movie which is
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: in the trailer, uh, and I was reading up on it.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: And apparently neither Tim Burton or Michael Keaton were chomping
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: at the bit to make a second movie. They're like,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I guess we could do it if a good story
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: ever arises. So that gives me hope that this is
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: going to be something fun.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I sure hope so, because you know, I would
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: hate for them to feel like begrudgingly that they have
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: to make this movie. I think the only reason you
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: make a sequel to something that came out so long
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: ago is you need to be really passionate about it
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: and want to make that sequel. If it's just yeah,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: you know, we got to look and see what ip
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: we can cash in on because it's too risky to
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: do something totally new, then I'm not as interested. But well,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: we'll set this up. We haven't, you know, we'll wait
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: till we see another trailer for Beetlejuice before we make
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: any other you know, judgments one way or the other.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: I'm cautiously really excited about this film because I love
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the original so much. I love the people who are
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: in it, I love I hope Danny Elfman is doing
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: the music again.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I hope we get a cameo by Alex Brightman.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: That would be fun. It is fun that they have
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: a nod to the song the Banana boat song in
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: the teaser, although I think that was not necessary, but
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I still kind of liked it. But yeah, I'll wait
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: because we don't know yet what we're going to get.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful now something else where. I don't know what
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get. We got another trailer for the action
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: film Monkey Man, which we talked about in an earlier
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: episode of LLENC And this is really a secondary trailer,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: kind of a revenge story type thing. You know, character
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: ends up trying to take on a criminal, gets that character,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: gets their butt handed to them, goes off and trains
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: for a long time to be able to challenge the
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: person again in the future. Becomes like an incredible like
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: cage fighter champion type dude. You know, classic tale as
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: old as time story where's a monkey mask while doing it?
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, like, it's a story that's
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: been told a lot of times, but no, this one
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: looks like this. This trailer made me want to see
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: the movie even more than I did the first time
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I saw a trailer for it.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this trailer gives us a little bit more of
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: like possibly some of the cool visual aesthetic they've given it,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: as well as some of the backstory. You know, you
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: were joking that it's a tale as old as time,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: but they did add Phil Collins, I can feel it
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: coming in the air, something in the air tonight.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's interesting because when I first heard the
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: title and I first heard it was an action film,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be tapping into various
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Asian cultures mythologies around supernatural figures who have like animal
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: aspects to them, right, because we've seen that sort of
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: thing before. But while he might be evoking that as
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: part of his persona in the film, it's clear that
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: this is not like some sort of super This isn't
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: like The Crow, This isn't like a supernatural vengeance film.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm cool with that too. I think it's neat.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing it when it comes out. Which,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: by the way, this is our last of the film
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: trailer discussion. We now have a couple of stories about
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Vija games.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: It's been a while.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: The first is which we are getting a new version
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of Riven. If you're a millennial or older, you might
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: have played the missed game or the sequel, which was
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: kind of like exploring a world. It was it was
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: like a precursor to Sandbox games kind of, because you
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: explore a world and you figure out mysteries and puzzles,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: and it was incredibly difficult and frustrating, and I played it.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I never beat either game. I just enjoyed pressing buttons
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  Speaker 1: and wandering around the world and exploring.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I beat Missed, but I never I don't think I
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: owned Riven, but I did beat miss eventually. I think
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: I had to have used a gamer guide or something
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: at some point, because, like you, I ran into two
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: puzzles that I would just bang my head against them
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: and not figure out, like not even figure out what
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: the puzzle was asking me to do, because that was
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the nature of these games, is that you would encounter
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: puzzles where even the task you were supposed to do
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: was not clear. You had to figure it out through experimentation.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: And then, oh, it's wanting me to play a song
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: by rearranging this off on this on this you know platform,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: and then if I get the right notes in the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: right order and they're the right length and everything, then
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: it'll open up another area. Like not not everything was
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: even remotely intuitive. So they did a re release of
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Mist a few years ago, just a few years ago,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: and there was promise that there was going to be
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: the same treatment given to Riven. That's what we're getting now,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: and apparently this new re release will include new puzzles
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I'm excited I might be good enough to actually play
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the game now. I mean, it's it's all about discovering
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: and experimentation and journey. So yeah, you're supposed to enjoy
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: the journey.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's it's it's from that era of like
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: the adventure style games, where it's like a click and
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: adventure game. Like I think of games. It's not the
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: same thing remotely, but I think of games like Monkey
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  Speaker 2: Island and where again you're put into situations where you
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: have to solve some pretty hard puzzles, and again they're
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: not always intuitive. I mean, in the first Monkey Island game,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: at one point you create a way to go down
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: a zipline by using a rubber chicken and a pulley,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: and it's I would never have thought to put a
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: rubber chicken and a pully together to make a way
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: to go down a zip line, but that's how you
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: do it. So this is a style of game you
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: don't see as much. You see it more in independent
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: games like smaller independent games have been playing with the
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: click adventures type stuff for a few years now, and
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I love those games. It's not something you typically see
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: in your big publisher titles. Yeah.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm excited for that. I'm also surprisingly excited
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: for the video game Marvel nineteen forty three Rise of Hydra.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: It looks the cinematic trailer looks really pretty, and it's
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Captain America and Black Panther. I don't know, it just
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: looks cool.
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  Speaker 2: The facial animation is phenomenal, like the acting that you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: get captured on screen. I mean, every year, I think
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: that video game characters are getting closer and closer to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: not looking exactly like people, but being able to emote
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: and to perform in a way that is convincingly human.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: So again, I don't think you would necessarily watch this
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  Speaker 2: and go oh, this was full motion video and live
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: action actors playing this part. You're not going to feel that,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: But when you see the performances that unveil on the screen,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: you're like, wow, this is really expressive and impressive.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently the studio is using unreal edgine five and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Metahuman Animator to do it. I think they're succeeding so far.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: We'll see if the actual game holds up. Because of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: course there's always cinematic trailers are always prettier, right, Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: It's not like it's necessarily this is what it's going
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: to look like moment to moment while you're playing the game.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: In the game, it also looks like Captain America and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Black Panther, it's T'chala's grandfather in this game, that the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: two of them come at odds with each other because
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: you know, they're both apparently working toward similar goals. You
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: would imagine that Black Panther is working within the interests
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  Speaker 2: for Wakanda, and of course Captain America is just you know,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: anti Nazi, so you figure they're probably working toward a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: similar goal, but they don't necessarily recognize that, and so
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: they have conflicts with one another, which just kind of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: goes back to the classic stuff we saw with like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the Avengers movie, right where the first half of the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: first Avengers movie is our heroes fighting each other. So
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's running in that long history. I don't know
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: if we're gonna end up seeing the Red Skull in
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: this or not. There was at least one reference where
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: they talked about three like Super Soldiers, which if they're
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: talking about that, and Black Panther is one and Captain
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: America is another. I imagine the Red Skull would be
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: the third, but I don't know for sure.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unless it's Bucky.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, as far as I can tell, Bucky's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: not directly you know, mentioned in this particular trailer.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyhow, I haven't been excited for a Marvel game
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: in a while, so I'm very tentatively excited about this.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, I would say, like The Spider Man
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: two was probably a title that I was interested in.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I just don't have a PS five, so I haven't
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: played it, but it's definitely got me more interested than
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: like the more recent Avengers game, than a lot of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: other titles that have come out over the last few years.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm I'm eager to learn more about this
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: and perhaps save up to be able to buy a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: rig that'll be able to play it.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Same, I don't have a Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get a PS five because my husband wants
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: to play the second final Fantasy seven.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: You might want to hold off because rumor has it
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: that Sony's going to release a PS five Pro in
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: time for the holiday season this year, which means it
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: will be a PlayStation five with even better processing power.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the thing is well and then it'll be
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: hard to find. But Tony still has a bunch of
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: PS four games he needs to finish first, so you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: will be holding off. We've got time, are are? We
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: also don't have the latest Xbox, which, of course.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: Do we do?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: We do that? Are the rumors true? I guess we'll
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: have to see. I know you're all very excited to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: hear about my my console journey.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, like it's important for people who might also
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: be considering it. Microsoft is also, we know is developing
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: the next Xbox because it got leaked in some documents.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: It's code named Brooklyn and supposedly is cylindrical in shape,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: which should be interesting.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like we're we have enough to play on
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: our current things. Heck, I'm playing Skyrim on my Xbox
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: three sixty in the living room, like really.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Us, I'm playing like a dragon infinite wealth, and I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: really wish it would stick to one tone, but I
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: preferably it should be the lighthearted, silly don because I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: like that, but occasionally it just switches to super somber
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: serious tone and I'm like, this is exhausting. Please just
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: stick to one. I prefer it to be half as
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: long and just be just just stick to a single
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: kind of tone to the whole game. But I'm really
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: enjoying it. I'm almost done, but I'm not finished with
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: it yet.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I also have a metaquest too, which is connected to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: a gaming laptop to play Beat Saber. But I know
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: that my husband has been having some fun downloading some
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: other stuff on there as well, but I haven't touched
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: it yet because it's his gaming computer and he's I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: have to wait for him to show me how to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: get on there, and he will. I just I haven't
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: had time. But I digress. We've reached the end of
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: our episode and I could talk to Jonathan for hours
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: and make you guys listen, but I do have to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: get ready for playing D and D geeky music tonight,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: So we're going to wrap up. Jonathan. Yeah, if people
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: want to reach us, how do they do?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: So what you gotta do is you got to go
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: out there and you've got to pick up a musical
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: instrument that people assume dates from say the late Renaissance era,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: even though it's a much more modern instrument. And then
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: you're going to learn a bunch of songs that sound
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: like they could be like Renaissance songs, but really they're
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: like Irish folk songs that came out like in the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: early nineteen hundreds at the latest.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: And you're going to learn all of this and you're
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: going to commit it to memory. You're gonna get really good.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: You're gonna find a whole bunch of other people who
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: are like minded but have picked different modern instruments, and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: you're gonna form a band and you're gonna rehearse for
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: a long time. It's gonna take you a while to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: kind of gel. Maybe you write a couple of original
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: tunes as well as all the ones that you cover.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe occasionally you even throw in a cover of a
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: modern song right in the middle of like a folk song,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: so that you're really changing things up and throwing your
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: audience off balance. Then you're gonna end up auditioning to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: land yourself a gig. You're gonna be hired. You're gonna
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: get there early. It's really important you get there early
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: as a performer and you're gonna set up and in
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: the process of actually doing sound check, which is not
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: going to go well, you're going to find out that
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: there's like this one speaker that's making a buzzing noise
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: no matter what you do, and you like change the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: cables five times, but you're still getting the buzzing noise,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: and you're going to be like, what the hell do
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: I have the dude to fix this thing? You're going
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: to hear, Hey, I could probably fix that for you.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: It's going to be me, and you can either have
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: me fix it or you can ask me your question.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you've just given me so much anxiety
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: about my sound check tonight. Sorry, No, it's totally fine.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: It's totally fine, and you're totally right. A lot of
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: our music is not actually what we do. Actually play
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of like traditional folk music, we'll be doing
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: that pre show, but we also do a lot of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: the like bardcore ren pop.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, a lot of the stuff that you hear
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: at renaissance festivals, especially like the Irish music that you
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: hear at renaissance festivals. Turns out most of that typically
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: was written in the early nineteen hundreds and some of
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: it as early as the eighteen hundreds, but very little
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: of the renfestyle music you hear was written anywhere close
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: to the Renaissance, which is fine, there's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: It creates a sense of a different time and place,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: and no one alive today was around back then, so
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: it might as well have been from that period.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: So there are like Madriic goals and things that you
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: can sing. The thing is like, and I ran into
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: this too in my Weird West game, Like, well, in
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: the Weird West, a lot of music from that time
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: was actually pretty racist and we didn't want to sing it.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: But medieval styling, like vocal music, not a lot of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: people actually enjoy listening to that.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, no, Like like you said, there's some
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: magicals and stuff that truly do date back to the Renaissance.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I remember we had a musician at the Georgia Renaissance
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Festival for a couple of seasons who played genuine Renaissance pieces.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: They were beautiful, but they were all in things like
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Italian or Spanish, so you couldn't understand the words unless
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: you happen to be fluent in those languages. I am not,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: and so for me, I was like this is very pretty.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what it's about. It could be
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: something very deep, or it could be there's a rock
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: in my shoe and it's really ticking me off.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're singing never ending story and we're mashing
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: up all along the watchtower into greensleeves. So you know, yeah,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: you might say.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: That I took some inspiration from Ariel's real life in
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: order for me to give you those instructions. So, Ariel,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: if they wanted to use an easier way to contact us,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: what can they do?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: You can reach out to us on social media on Facebook, Instagram, threads,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: and discord. We are Larger Nurdohn Collider. That discord invitation
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  Speaker 1: is also on our website www dot Larger Nur John
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  Speaker 1: claud dot com. I will get our show notes up
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: there eventually, though not until after this weekend because I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: am busy all through the weekend as well doing artsy
• 1:09:42
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