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Bullies Don't Graduate, They Just Get Older | Episode 215 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: Welcome to this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 0:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: I am your host, founder and executive director of Voices for Voices, justin Allen Hayes.
• 0:14
  Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us today on this episode.
• 0:18
  Justin Alan Hayes: We have in the books in our catalog, 214 episodes are ready.
• 0:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: We're on our way to 300.
• 0:28
  Justin Alan Hayes: We rounded the corner at 200, and we're just continuing on.
• 0:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: For our viewers, our listeners, for our screenshot takers, for everybody who has taken an interest in Voices for Voices, thank you for joining us.
• 0:53
  Justin Alan Hayes: We have grown exponentially from a viewer listenership in the last two months A pretty steep climb and not really sure what the reason behind that is.
• 1:17
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's a lot of things that are going on in the world and so we're just happy to have a platform and a place where we can talk and share and be in a safe spot where we don't have to worry about anything but just talking about what, what's happening, the truth.
• 1:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: We we do a lot of organizations do this.
• 1:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: So this, this isn't just voices for voices, and I I think maybe we're getting singled out a little bit where some think that we're taking too big of an activist position on various topics.
• 2:15
  Justin Alan Hayes: We can't control the minds of others, we just do the best that we can.
• 2:25
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so, when the topics and the the like do come up, uh, and, and we do talk about them, uh, we, we know, just like celebrities or our favorite artist or favorite ball player or actor, actress, what have you we know that no matter how popular a person, an organization is, there's going to be detractors, there's going to be people that, for whatever reason, want to hate, and that's not something we can control.
• 3:08
  Justin Alan Hayes: It's been quite some time, many years, where, when I was starting to come into my own we'll call it we talk about, you know, with friends and family and colleagues, about all kinds of things, all kinds of all kinds of topics, and a lot of people have an opinion, and that that's we see voices for voices, right.
• 3:38
  Justin Alan Hayes: So we we have, we have lots of, lots of opinions, and and that's really the goal, and so, when I harken back to many years ago, when I started to come into my own, part of it was a lot of people were given lots of advice, lots of thoughts in the particular situations that I was going through had gone through.
• 4:10
  Justin Alan Hayes: That may be on the horizon, but not all those people are looking out for my well-being, our well-being as individuals.
• 4:24
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, as we know, gossip is huge.
• 4:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, you know, there's publications that are out there that that talk about different rumors that go on with celebrities and the like.
• 4:37
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, you know, we have these reality tv shows.
• 4:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, you know, started kind of with the kardashians with their uh, you know, the sex tape, and then all of a sudden they got this empire and and they're some of the most powerful people in the world uh, for for something that they didn't go to school to perform a sex tape, and so a lot of people have a lot of opinions.
• 5:10
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so where I was starting to form my self was there's a lot of information out there, a lot of people out there, a lot of people out there, a lot of opinions out there, and it's good to take in information, but at the end of the day, we have to decide how we're going to move forward.
• 5:44
  Justin Alan Hayes: We have to decide how we're going to move forward.
• 5:50
  Justin Alan Hayes: Are we going to?
• 5:52
  Justin Alan Hayes: We're going to be, hopefully, on the side of helping others, of being a voice for people, for individuals, for organizations who are trying to do the right thing, and share their stories, share their background, share their experiences.
• 6:24
  Justin Alan Hayes: Their story, share their background, share their experiences.
• 6:28
  Justin Alan Hayes: How did they get involved with said topic or said thing?
• 6:30
  Justin Alan Hayes: And I don't I'm not able to give my opinion on what other people's experiences are.
• 6:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: However, when it comes to helping people, we're talking about helping a lot of people.
• 6:52
  Justin Alan Hayes: We've helped a lot of people already, and so, as an organization, we can just close up shop and just say, well, okay, here's what we set out to do and we're we're helping people and we have helped, and and you know, there's different stories and people that can vouch for that, and some of it comes public and some of it doesn't, because we realize that privacy is a big, big deal and with privacy, if we don't have the privacy, then people will seek out to try to destroy an opinion, a topic.
• 7:42
  Justin Alan Hayes: And again, there's only one perfect person and that's God, jesus, the Trinity, father, son, holy Spirit.
• 7:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: So for anybody that's out there to say, oh, I'm perfect or I'm close to it and you need to follow me.
• 8:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong, I'm wrong.
• 8:09
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so for me to, for us to close up shop with voices for voices and say, well, you know, we've done, we've done enough.
• 8:18
  Justin Alan Hayes: Well, we know we're not perfect and we know that there are a lot more people that need help.
• 8:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: However, that comes about.
• 8:28
  Justin Alan Hayes: As we all know, life is turbulent.
• 8:34
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's ups, there's downs.
• 8:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: There are things we can plan for, things we can in a distance kind of think and out in the back of our mind, and then there's things we can't.
• 8:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: And that's a lot of, really, what we're doing here, voices for Voices, what we have and what we are doing.
• 8:57
  Justin Alan Hayes: Some things we had planned and some things we don't.
• 9:05
  Justin Alan Hayes: But when it comes to helping people, we're not discriminating on that, saying oh well, we're not going to talk about this, we're not going to talk about that.
• 9:18
  Justin Alan Hayes: We're going to do what we can, and I'm only one person out of 7 billion people in the world, same with you.
• 9:33
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're one person or family out of around 7 billion or so in the world, and so we can do as much as we can try to do, but we're not perfect.
• 9:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's never going to be a day where I'm going to say, oh well, I was able, the organization was able to help, impact positively all the people in the world.
• 10:01
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's just not going to happen.
• 10:05
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's just not going to happen.
• 10:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so if you're out there thinking and and on the platforms and showing it oh, follow me, I'll, you know, take you to the promised land.
• 10:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: And and to compare yourself to Christ you're wrong, the Christ, you're wrong.
• 10:29
  Justin Alan Hayes: And that's where, when individuals, for any number of reasons, know they're vulnerable, they're looking for an alternative way of thinking about things.
• 10:45
  Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it's rebellion against parents, what have you?
• 10:47
  Justin Alan Hayes: And they mistakenly think oh wow, I can follow, I can be a part of, I can meet with a person who says that I'll take you to the promised land.
• 11:09
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so, as I've touched on numerous times, that's just not the case.
• 11:16
  Justin Alan Hayes: Just like everybody, right, we all have good qualities.
• 11:20
  Justin Alan Hayes: We all have qualities we could, we'd like to change, we'd like to change.
• 11:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: A bully in school is the same as a bully out of school.
• 11:37
  Justin Alan Hayes: Taking advantage of somebody in school or as they're growing up, and taking advantage of somebody as an adult, fully functioning adult.
• 11:45
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's no difference.
• 11:47
  Justin Alan Hayes: It just so happens that each of those events or experiences happen at different points in their lives, so there's no difference.
• 12:01
  Justin Alan Hayes: So there's an adult that's bullying another adult, so there's an adult that's bullying another adult.
• 12:14
  Justin Alan Hayes: Bullying a child, a minor, the same as being in school or going to a convention and being told you're worthless, you're never going to amount to anything.
• 12:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're nothing without me.
• 12:29
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's what we're talking about.
• 12:32
  Justin Alan Hayes: So, if anybody's out there which there's a lot of people out there and again, I don't take these things lightly with different topics, actually with all topics, but when we talk about serious, I don't.
• 12:46
  Justin Alan Hayes: I don't take these things lightly with different topics, actually with all topics, you know.
• 12:48
  Justin Alan Hayes: But when we talk about serious, really serious things, it's because there's things that are going on that are very serious.
• 12:56
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's people that are being hurt, there's people being taken advantage of, there's people thinking that there's no outlook in life if they're not following said person or reading said material that said person is is putting out there and, as you've seen in our catalog of TV show and podcast episodes, there's all kinds of bullying.
• 13:32
  Justin Alan Hayes: I talked about a couple of the ways.
• 13:34
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're no good.
• 13:36
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're too fat, you're too dumb, you're too slow.
• 13:38
  Justin Alan Hayes: What have you?
• 13:41
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're never going to mount anything.
• 13:43
  Justin Alan Hayes: Your writing is horrible.
• 13:44
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're too slow.
• 13:45
  Justin Alan Hayes: You misspell words.
• 13:46
  Justin Alan Hayes: You don't have the distribution that I have.
• 13:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: I have the power.
• 13:51
  Justin Alan Hayes: You don't.
• 13:52
  Justin Alan Hayes: Nobody's going to believe you.
• 13:54
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's called an abuser Straight up.
• 14:04
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's an abuser straight up.
• 14:10
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's an abuser.
• 14:10
  Justin Alan Hayes: Now you may if you know.
• 14:12
  Justin Alan Hayes: God forbid.
• 14:14
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're one of these people that are abusing people and you mean, whether you think it's wrong or not, it it is wrong, and that's not me trying to be God or anything, that's just straight up.
• 14:29
  Justin Alan Hayes: Abuse is abuse.
• 14:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: One of our episodes we had was with Timmy and Tim Woods, and so they are a couple mother, father and they had a son.
• 14:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: He's in heaven now and the son had a cell phone, smartphone, whatever you call it.
• 15:00
  Justin Alan Hayes: Somehow someway the son was a great athlete.
• 15:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: Somehow someway son was a great athlete.
• 15:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: He was, I believe.
• 15:08
  Justin Alan Hayes: He was accepted to play sports at various colleges, so successful, but on the outside like a successful person, and what the parents didn't know was there were messages and things going on behind the scenes at the house on his phone, where somebody befriended him on his phone, right, I mean I tried to post a couple of things, but apparently social media doesn't like when you tell the truth.
• 15:41
  Justin Alan Hayes: A couple of messages I've I've received and A couple of messages I've received and they go something like oh, your child left the toy at our house, can you come pick it up, let us know, and you can do that.
• 15:56
  Justin Alan Hayes: Or I just got a new phone, wasn't able to.
• 16:01
  Justin Alan Hayes: You know the contact, something happened and you know how do we know each other, and so something like that to some people is all right.
• 16:15
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's something the farthest going on, so that's that.
• 16:20
  Justin Alan Hayes: And then there are people that are vulnerable, like this individual, tim and Tamiya's son, even though he's a great athlete, had a lot going for him some appearances, popular, a lot of friends and he started getting these messages.
• 16:43
  Justin Alan Hayes: Some people were befriending him on the phone, right?
• 16:48
  Justin Alan Hayes: Not everybody they look at their social media is actually who they are, and we should know that by now.
• 16:56
  Justin Alan Hayes: It's not.
• 16:57
  Justin Alan Hayes: You know the whole thought of oh well, you know, I stayed at a holiday inn last night, so that makes me.
• 17:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: No, it's not like that.
• 17:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: These things can happen to anybody.
• 17:09
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so they happened to him and to me, his son.
• 17:11
  Justin Alan Hayes: Things were going on and he was asked to send nude pictures of himself to the person on the phone.
• 17:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: They were basically extorting him and blackmailing him and saying look, once you have these photos out here, we'll release those if you don't pay us $100 or $200.
• 17:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not sure the specifics of the amount of money, but the fact of the matter was, is he was doing that because he was afraid that, oh, my photos are going to get out.
• 17:47
  Justin Alan Hayes: My photos are going to get out.
• 17:48
  Justin Alan Hayes: My photos are going to get out.
• 17:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: I got to pay the money, and so he was.
• 17:50
  Justin Alan Hayes: Somehow he had the control to be able to do it and he was sending money.
• 17:59
  Justin Alan Hayes: You know people he's never met in his life, and these can be people that are in the United States or they can be in a different country.
• 18:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: What I've learned over the years is, historically, some of us have had the opinion that, oh, that's happening in a different country, different area of the world.
• 18:16
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's happening here in the United States, and whether we want to believe it or not, whether we want to think our neighborhoods are the safest or not, it's not the case.
• 18:30
  Justin Alan Hayes: So their son sent the pictures, started sending the money, didn't want photos to come out.
• 18:41
  Justin Alan Hayes: One night his dad was going into work and he said hey, I love you, see you in the morning, mom, kind of the same thing she was.
• 18:53
  Justin Alan Hayes: I believe she was at home, that she, that she had a day job, and so she was home at night.
• 19:00
  Justin Alan Hayes: One of the husband went into work that's kind of how they did things and in the morning they found their son dead.
• 19:13
  Justin Alan Hayes: He died by suicide.
• 19:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: So then they started bringing in all different law enforcement agencies and come through the phone and find what I just said to be the case.
• 19:28
  Justin Alan Hayes: Somebody texted them out of blue, became friends over somewhat of a period of time.
• 19:38
  Justin Alan Hayes: They felt like they could confide in each other, sent the nude photos and then all of a sudden the tune changes hey, you need to send me $100 or whatever that amount of money is.
• 19:51
  Justin Alan Hayes: And it just got to the point.
• 19:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: And the son, as part of our organization, what we're trying to do is talk to your family about things that are going on, because our son didn't.
• 20:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: They didn't talk to the mom, they didn't talk to dad and all outward appearances was everything was okay, so he took his life because of this.
• 20:22
  Justin Alan Hayes: It's called sextortion, it's called taking advantage of people.
• 20:26
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's just one way individuals take advantage of others, others, I mean.
• 20:41
  Justin Alan Hayes: We're going to spend hours on all the different ways people can be taken advantage of.
• 20:46
  Justin Alan Hayes: And you know, another guest we had on was our 2024 Voice of the Year, elliston Berry.
• 20:57
  Justin Alan Hayes: She was at President Trump's joint address to Congress and she was First Lady Nelania Trump's guest of honor, and what that deal is.
• 21:13
  Justin Alan Hayes: And again, we have two episodes.
• 21:15
  Justin Alan Hayes: We have one with Ellis.
• 21:16
  Justin Alan Hayes: We have two with Elliston and her mom, miss Anna, and then we have one, which is the award presentation show that we did, and what happened to her is somebody took an innocent photo that she had on her Instagram account and ran it through a free AI program, turned it into a nude photo, posted it, got out to the school.
• 21:46
  Justin Alan Hayes: She shows up the school the next day, doesn't know anything of it and people you know the students were I don't know what they were saying or what, but uh, somehow she found out this, this occurred, and we talk about nice people, not nice people.
• 22:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: Unfortunately, what we learned from her mom is the principal didn't want to do anything, didn't want to step forward.
• 22:15
  Justin Alan Hayes: That the authorities really didn't want to either.
• 22:17
  Justin Alan Hayes: So that's where we talk about good and bad.
• 22:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: So we believe all people are good.
• 22:22
  Justin Alan Hayes: It's just sometimes decisions are made that are not good.
• 22:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: So it wasn't until her mom reached out to all her representatives.
• 22:33
  Justin Alan Hayes: Congress told her story.
• 22:38
  Justin Alan Hayes: Senator Ted Cruz took up the story because it didn't just happen to Elliston, there were others across the country.
• 22:48
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, you know, girls in in high school and kind of the same things was what was happening and and so they were on the show and they were talking about it, and so she got taken advantage of by somebody at her own school that took a picture that thought they're being cute, they're being funny.
• 23:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and it turns out that there are very few people that wanted to support and be on her side, even though she was in the right.
• 23:16
  Justin Alan Hayes: She had the proof, she had the evidence.
• 23:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: So, no matter what the topic is, you can believe something until you're blue in the face, but when it shows evidence, that's the truth.
• 23:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's what is real.
• 23:36
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, and so Senator Ted Cruz's bipartisan effort in the state of Texas called the Take it Down Act, which goes after individuals who do the photos.
• 23:52
  Justin Alan Hayes: So the individual at her school that did it, they're going to be prosecuted as well as big tech is going to have to do it for all people.
• 24:02
  Justin Alan Hayes: Big tech is going to have to do it for all people.
• 24:05
  Justin Alan Hayes: They're going to have to get in their algorithms and find these things and they're going to have to take it down, I believe, within 24 or 48 hours.
• 24:11
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so this is done with people like Taylor Swift.
• 24:14
  Justin Alan Hayes: You know he's, you know he's billionaires, he's the high profile people.
• 24:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: But now it's on its way to be federal law, because to be able to affect change with big tech, you got to do it from the federal side, not the state side.
• 24:31
  Justin Alan Hayes: So there was only so much that could happen in the state of Texas.
• 24:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: Well, the US Senate passed the act and the House representatives either has, or they're going to very shortly uh, the voting on the take it down act.
• 24:48
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, and then, once and again, this is bipartisan right.
• 24:51
  Justin Alan Hayes: You have a child, that this happens to who?
• 24:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: It doesn't matter.
• 24:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: If you're Democrat, Republican, libertarian, whatever, uh, we don't want people being taken advantage of.
• 25:02
  Justin Alan Hayes: And if you're one of the people that are taking advantage of the people, shame on you.
• 25:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: Shame on you for doing that.
• 25:08
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so once the house representatives signs their votes on and it passes the legislation I believe it was unanimous in the in the Senate so once the House passes it, it goes to President Trump's desk, he signs it, it's law.
• 25:33
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so Big Tech's not going to be able to, you know?
• 25:36
  Justin Alan Hayes: Oh well, because Big Tech didn't do anything to Elliston her case until Senator Ted Cruz got involved.
• 25:44
  Justin Alan Hayes: And once his people, once he got involved and he reached out, the big tech, all of a sudden, oh yeah, we can change that, we can do this and oh, we didn't know this occurred, um.
• 25:54
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so it doesn't matter how big a business is, how big a government, how small government, how law enforcement, we're individuals and we all make mistakes, right?
• 26:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: We're not god, we're not jesus.
• 26:09
  Justin Alan Hayes: We all make mistakes, we all sin.
• 26:12
  Justin Alan Hayes: We don't like to sin, we don't want to sin, we do sin, so that those two stories of the abuse and the bullying that occurred, that in addition to the other episodes we have and you know, if we continue with this, you know we're going to continue talking about it because it's real, it's happening, it has happened, it's going to continue to happen, it's going to continue to happen.
• 26:47
  Justin Alan Hayes: And if you're one of the bad, bad guys, bad girls out there, again, I'm not.
• 26:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: I can't make decisions, I can't change anybody.
• 26:52
  Justin Alan Hayes: The only thing I can do is try to work on myself, and I know I'm not perfect, I know everything I say isn't might not always be the most eloquent, uh, and I've, like all of us, we've all made mistakes and done, done things, uh, and in the past, and so it's really one of these moments.
• 27:17
  Justin Alan Hayes: Right, we have these moments.
• 27:18
  Justin Alan Hayes: We can choose the same path, which we call that insanity, where we do the same thing over and over and over and over again, thinking something's going to change.
• 27:33
  Justin Alan Hayes: Well, it's not, because we've done the same thing and the result hasn't changed.
• 27:36
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're going to have to make a course correction, You're going to have to pivot, you're going to have to change.
• 27:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: I'm going to have to change.
• 27:42
  Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not any different than than you.
• 27:47
  Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not any different from any other human out there.
• 27:51
  Justin Alan Hayes: We all have faults and there's, we all have things that we do.
• 27:56
  Justin Alan Hayes: Well, uh, and so what?
• 27:59
  Justin Alan Hayes: The?
• 28:00
  Justin Alan Hayes: The hope is that if you're a bad guy, bad girl out there, that you stop what you're doing.
• 28:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: You stop abusing people Again, no matter where that's at, whether that's in school, whether that's at a convention, whether that's in a one-on-one meeting, whether that's with parents and their children and minors, and what have you and their children and minors and what have you?
• 28:26
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's so many different ways and things that can shape an individual, and so what we're trying to be at, voices for Voices is we're trying to be on the side of.
• 28:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's a voice in all of us.
• 28:44
  Justin Alan Hayes: Now, if you're somebody that's breaking a law or is abusing people, well, again, I can't change anything other than myself.
• 29:02
  Justin Alan Hayes: I try to.
• 29:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: So, yeah, as an organization as far as who's on the show.
• 29:11
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's something that we talk about and we go from there and we go from there.
• 29:26
  Justin Alan Hayes: But what we do know is there are things that are innately good and innately bad, which, on the surface, we can say, okay, killing somebody, that's wrong.
• 29:45
  Justin Alan Hayes: So Helping, helping somebody who doesn't have the money to purchase a house or rent an apartment and and going ahead and paying for that for a person, that would be more on the positive side, right.
• 30:09
  Justin Alan Hayes: So that's what we're talking about.
• 30:10
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's things that are just on the surface, bad, not good, not nice, not Christ-like, and then there's things that are on the more positive end.
• 30:31
  Justin Alan Hayes: So we all have decisions, right.
• 30:34
  Justin Alan Hayes: We all have decisions we can make.
• 30:36
  Justin Alan Hayes: That we do make and we are grateful that we have had, and continue to have, listeners, viewers from all over the world, new listeners and viewers coming on every episode, not only every episode, but every day, and that's really just a blessing day, and that's really just a blessing.
• 31:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's something that we strive to help.
• 31:11
  Justin Alan Hayes: Some things may come across controversial.
• 31:16
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's in the eye of the beholder.
• 31:18
  Justin Alan Hayes: So all the past episodes we've had, we've had a variety, a very diverse lineup from all walks of life, and what we want to do is to continue that which we are, which we are, which we will, until our time's up.
• 31:51
  Justin Alan Hayes: And that's like everybody, because none of us are perfect.
• 31:56
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so, god and Jesus, they'll.
• 32:04
  Justin Alan Hayes: It's it's their will to be done, not ours, not mine, not yours.
• 32:09
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's things we can like and not like, but it's uh, it's thy will be done, not my will be done.
• 32:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: It took me a lot of years to to get that across through my ego, so that's something that we all can think about Still rides on my mind daily.
• 32:32
  Justin Alan Hayes: And just to know that there are things that we can control and impact more than others, like, oh, I want to get a shower.
• 32:48
  Justin Alan Hayes: Well, if I get up and go to the bathroom, I can impact that more than the weather.
• 32:53
  Justin Alan Hayes: So we're doing the best we can with the resources we have.
• 33:00
  Justin Alan Hayes: We thank you for joining in, whether this is your first episode with us or you've been with us the whole journey.
• 33:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: We are grateful.
• 33:09
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• 33:36
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• 33:45
  Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, we all have different preferences, so what I may listen and watch, the platform might be different than you.
• 33:56
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's okay.
• 33:57
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's how we.
• 33:58
  Justin Alan Hayes: We have it like that.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: So thank you for joining us.
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• 34:11
  Justin Alan Hayes: We have the voices for voices TV show and podcast.
• 34:14
  Justin Alan Hayes: And until next time, I'm Justin Alan Hayes, founder and host of voices for voices.
• 34:22
  Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us and please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 34:29
  Justin Alan Hayes: Take care.