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6/3/26: Iran Bombs Kuwait, Hezbollah Hits IDF In Lebanon, Elections In California · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 3: All right, good morning, and welcome to Breaking Points. Emily,
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  Speaker 3: how you.
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  Speaker 4: Doing doing great? Glad to be here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, big show today. We're going to have three different
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  Speaker 5: guests coming through.
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  Speaker 4: We be the Huge Show, and.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to start the show talking about the Iranian
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  Speaker 5: attacks yesterday. Well, US attacks on an Iranian ship, Iranian
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  Speaker 5: retaliation kind of across the region, but it seems to
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  Speaker 5: have calmed back down, but it's kind of set a
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  Speaker 5: new status quo I think, which we can which.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about.
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  Speaker 5: We'll talk about the latest back and forth between Israel
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  Speaker 5: and Lebanon and Hesbela. We're gonna be joined by Josh Paul,
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  Speaker 5: who has a new look at the way that the
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  Speaker 5: US is helping the Israelis use their antiquities laws to
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  Speaker 5: effectively annex the West Bank.
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  Speaker 4: Huge story, Huge story.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we're going to do a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: do as much as we can on election results. California,
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  Speaker 5: because it is a failed state, takes ten days at
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  Speaker 5: least weeks to count its votes. But we do know
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  Speaker 5: enough that we can, I think confidently forecast some significant results.
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  Speaker 4: I like that we agree on California's failure as a state.
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  Speaker 5: Really, we talked yesterday with Sager and I with Dave Dayan.
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  Speaker 5: I know Democrats want to break it up so they
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  Speaker 5: can get more senators. I think they should just break
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  Speaker 5: it up because it's a failed experiment and just start fresh,
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  Speaker 5: like new rules.
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  Speaker 3: All those props that you passed, those are out the window.
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  Speaker 4: So direct democracy, man, some problems.
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  Speaker 3: Do new props.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see what happened.
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  Speaker 3: We don't do any props at all.
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  Speaker 4: Also, we have interesting interesting agree with that interesting election
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  Speaker 4: results outside of California too, some really interesting stuff in Iowa,
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  Speaker 4: interesting stuff. Ryan in New Jersey, where that's right. We
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  Speaker 4: interviewed him on last Friday's show, but he won last night,
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  Speaker 4: so we're going to break down all of those election
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  Speaker 4: results as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Bill Pulti is like Marco Rubio adding a job.
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  Speaker 5: He is the head of the FHFA, the Federal Housing
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  Speaker 5: Finance Agency, where as everybody knows, he's sifted through loan
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  Speaker 5: documents to try to find Democrats who didn't fill their
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  Speaker 5: paperwork out right and then prosecuted them. They're putting him
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  Speaker 5: in charge of national intelligence. I'm sure that will be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Just this is a man you can trust. He's currently
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  Speaker 5: under investigation. That's what he did at FAHFA, which he
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  Speaker 5: is not leaving.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he's going to do both.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to do both.
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  Speaker 4: That little detail that hadn't picked.
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  Speaker 3: Up on good good access to everything.
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  Speaker 4: The acting d and I we deserve yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, Wallable Gay, who is running for Stenny Hoyer's
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  Speaker 5: seat in Maryland's fifth district, which is southern Maryland, taking
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  Speaker 5: a little co host prerogative.
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  Speaker 3: Because that's my district there.
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  Speaker 5: You go went to college there and also get grad
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  Speaker 5: School of Maryland, which is also in that district. Stenny
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  Speaker 5: Hoyer is trying to put an oracle lobbyist in the
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  Speaker 5: seat as he's stepping down.
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  Speaker 3: He's been in office since like.
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  Speaker 5: Eighty one or something unbelievable, and he wants a Larry
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  Speaker 5: Ellison lobbyist to replace him.
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  Speaker 4: The absolute state of the Democratic Party and PULTI is
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  Speaker 4: the state of the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 5: And Wallable Glay and Harry Donner running against him, plus
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  Speaker 5: another dozen candidates, and then the other co host prerogative,
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  Speaker 5: Orn Cass.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, Orn Cass pressure off interviewing Treasury Secretary Scott
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  Speaker 4: Bessett last night. He is going to be here. We're
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  Speaker 4: going to talk a little bit about all of the
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  Speaker 4: casts in New Jersey outside of the Laney but also
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  Speaker 4: how the right now with the powers in his hands,
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  Speaker 4: is handling handling the issue of labor, migrant labor as
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  Speaker 4: it attempts to chart a course for the future. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and we have not shaky economy.
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  Speaker 5: And we have not covered the conditions and the protests
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  Speaker 5: at Delaney Hall enough at all.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm glad that we're glad that we're doing this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so lots to get to. As we said, big show,
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  Speaker 4: big show.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's let's let's kick it off with Iran here.
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  Speaker 5: So the IRGC last night launched strikes on both Kuwait
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  Speaker 5: and Bahrain in response to an Iranian ship being being
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  Speaker 5: targeted as it was transiting the Strait of Hormuz. The
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  Speaker 5: attack and you're seeing seeing some of them being intercepted here.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: The attacks were much more I think severe than the
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  Speaker 5: than the US attack than the US expected. The US
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  Speaker 5: statement was we intercepted everything. But they have previously they've
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  Speaker 5: previously said there was this great statement that they put out.
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  Speaker 5: They were like, yeah, two m Q nine Reaper drones
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  Speaker 5: were destroyed and five service members were injured as a
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  Speaker 5: result of an intercepted ballistic missile. It's like, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if that's what intercepted me. You're not supposed to
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  Speaker 5: intercept it with the m Q nine's with your base.
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  Speaker 5: You're supposed to intercept it in the air that when
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  Speaker 5: it hits the ground, that's not an interception.
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  Speaker 3: So we have no idea because we can't. We will
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  Speaker 3: find out.
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  Speaker 5: In days or weeks, you know, how significant the damage
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  Speaker 5: was and what got through and put up a two.
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  Speaker 5: This is what the Iranians were responding to. Scent com
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  Speaker 5: put out this footage. You're about to see a hell
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  Speaker 5: fire missile slam into the the engine room of this ship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it blows up.
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  Speaker 5: It blew the video into pixelated form. And so this
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  Speaker 5: is what the IRGC then then then responded to with
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  Speaker 5: its fuselid back at them. And the understanding that's coming
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  Speaker 5: out of from Iran analysts is that Iran is trying
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  Speaker 5: to say we're not doing tit for tat stuff anymore.
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  Speaker 5: You do a tit, We're doing ten tats that they're
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  Speaker 5: trying to say, No, you're not going to degrade us
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  Speaker 5: back into the pre February status quo. We're trying to
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  Speaker 5: lock in the games that we have established here, and
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  Speaker 5: if you don't want to reach a peace deal, we're
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  Speaker 5: going to make it painful. Not just economically, as fuel
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  Speaker 5: inventories are like people are just staring at the bottom
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  Speaker 5: of these barrels. We're also going to make it more
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  Speaker 5: damaging for you militarily if you hit us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is all just totally unexpected because
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  Speaker 4: I was under the impression two impressions. First, we had
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  Speaker 4: a ceasefire. There is no war right now, there's a ceasefire.
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  Speaker 4: So everything is right by Congress. There was no need
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  Speaker 4: to actually get Congress's permission here ongoing need. And second,
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  Speaker 4: that the war is over because Secretary of State Mark
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  Speaker 4: Rubio was testifying in front of the Senate yesterday and
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  Speaker 4: he told us the war is over. Let's watch a three.
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  Speaker 6: Iran has lost a substantial percentage of their missile launchers
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  Speaker 6: and their economy is far worse today, and I mean
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  Speaker 6: far worse today than it was six to nine months ago,
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  Speaker 6: and they are looking at hundreds of billions of dollars
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  Speaker 6: of reconstruction costs just to get to where they were.
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  Speaker 3: You keep telling us how we're winning this war.
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  Speaker 7: The President keeps saying, well, the war's over annihilated.
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  Speaker 3: The war is not over.
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  Speaker 4: The war is over. You heard that straight from the
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  Speaker 4: Secretary of State testifying in front of Congress yesterday. On
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  Speaker 4: the split screen, basically with what we just showed you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the war very much not over.
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  Speaker 3: War is over if you want it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a vision. It's a peaceful vision. He's vision casting.
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  Speaker 5: It's pretty pretty incredible. So what are we talking about then,
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  Speaker 5: if the war is over? Yeah, what we said, the
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  Speaker 5: war is over all right, let's just skip to the
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  Speaker 5: next segment.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, we're done.
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  Speaker 8: This is good.
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  Speaker 4: You will never hear us talk about Iran again, except
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  Speaker 4: in the context of peace.
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  Speaker 3: War is over, our new peaceful.
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  Speaker 4: Ally all right. Well, Also, Rubio is getting tons of
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  Speaker 4: questions in front of the Senate yesterday on everything from
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  Speaker 4: where he was during negotiations to Cuba. Let's stick on
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  Speaker 4: Aroan for the moment. This is a four.
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  Speaker 5: I was shocked to see that you were at a
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  Speaker 5: party with President Trump in Miami instead of accompanying Vice
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  Speaker 5: President Advance to Pakistan for negotiations.
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  Speaker 6: What party was I at?
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  Speaker 7: I was at a.
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  Speaker 3: Party publicly reported and there's photos there.
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  Speaker 6: What party? No, no, no, no, But you're going to say that,
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna answer it. I'm gonna answer that question. But
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  Speaker 6: that's an a third statement.
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  Speaker 4: If I was not at a party, my paragraph.
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  Speaker 6: He is the second in line of the president's of
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  Speaker 6: the United States. He was President President. Mister Wikoff is
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  Speaker 6: the President's envoy for negotiation for peace deals. Mister Kushner
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  Speaker 6: is a private citizen that serves as an advisor on
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  Speaker 6: these functions. They were the team that we sent to Pakistan.
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  Speaker 7: I was not at a party.
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  Speaker 6: Where I was is next to the President, because in
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  Speaker 6: the midst of those negotiations, I was in communications with them,
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  Speaker 6: and in fact, I think there is media reporting from
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  Speaker 6: that evening on how multiple occasions I went into a
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  Speaker 6: back room, I came back out and spoke to the
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  Speaker 6: President and was constantly updating him on that evening. I
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  Speaker 6: spoke to mister Kushner and our negotiating team and mister
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  Speaker 6: Woodcoff on at least six occasions, including twice on a
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  Speaker 6: secure line from the phone they had access to over there.
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  Speaker 6: You don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's just bring in his response on Cuba for
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  Speaker 4: good measure while we're on the secretary's testimony yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: A five for the misunderstanding about Cuba. Cuba is actually
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  Speaker 6: not controlled by the government. Cuba was controlled by a
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  Speaker 6: military holding company named Gaysa, and guys virtually owns anything,
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  Speaker 6: and they are on the tourist sector, They own mining,
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  Speaker 6: they own the gas stations, they own everything, they generate.
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  Speaker 6: About seventy percent of Cuba's GDP is under the control
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  Speaker 6: of this military company, and they're sitting on between fourteen
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  Speaker 6: and seventeen billion dollars in assets. So you have people
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  Speaker 6: literally starving people literally, like power grid that hasn't been
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  Speaker 6: maintained in ten years, and yet you have this holding
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  Speaker 6: military company sitting on these assets. And by the way,
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  Speaker 6: not a penny of the money in the middle Terry
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  Speaker 6: Golding Company translates over to the public treasury. So the
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  Speaker 6: fundamental challenge we have here is that Cuba needs to
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  Speaker 6: be in order for it not to continue to be
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  Speaker 6: a failed state which poses a threat to the United States.
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  Speaker 6: They need systemic and serious reform. They need to have
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  Speaker 6: economic reforms. And the question is can they possibly reform
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  Speaker 6: given the people who are currently in charge, both of
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  Speaker 6: guys and of their government. And I think the answer
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  Speaker 6: is they can. I really don't believe this system is
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  Speaker 6: capable of reform unless new people take over or a
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  Speaker 6: new mindset takes hold. Now we've engaged in conversations with them,
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  Speaker 6: We've offered them what I think needs to happen in
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  Speaker 6: order for their economy to recover. And that's the last
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  Speaker 6: point I would make, because I think somebody raised this
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  Speaker 6: issue of oil blockaded Cuba was having blackouts well before
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  Speaker 6: January third of this year. They were having blackouts for years,
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  Speaker 6: and they were having blackouts for two reasons. Number one,
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  Speaker 6: no one will give you free oil except Maduro. That's
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  Speaker 6: what's changed here. What's changed here is they're no longer
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  Speaker 6: getting free oil from Venezuela.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think we're in reading the tea leaves?
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  Speaker 4: There are we closer to two pieces? Got too Some
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  Speaker 4: people may say we would have two wars, but there
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  Speaker 4: is no warn run it's over. So maybe we'll also
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  Speaker 4: be closer now to a peaceful transition to Cuba.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so wild to hear him talk about Cuba.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, gay Asa, which in New York Times has
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  Speaker 5: done a bunch of recent reporting on this, so.
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  Speaker 4: People are kind of cooking on guys.
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  Speaker 5: It so okay, fourteen billion dollars like we have spent
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  Speaker 5: at least twice that in the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 5: attacking Iran, Like fourteen billion dollars does not really make
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  Speaker 5: the most threatening, intimidating kind of like institution like this
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  Speaker 5: is we're supposed to be We're supposed to be scared
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  Speaker 5: of this, And yes there is there is. It is
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  Speaker 5: a communist government and gay Asa is the kind of
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  Speaker 5: economic engine that you know that the government uses to
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  Speaker 5: like national run.
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  Speaker 3: It's run its national economy.
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  Speaker 4: The swath of the economy is yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and in the last you know, several years, they
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  Speaker 5: often also opened up private businesses, and so now there's
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  Speaker 5: this like actual competition on the island between private businesses
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  Speaker 5: and public businesses, and a bunch of private ones are
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  Speaker 5: actually outperforming the public ones, and the public ones will
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  Speaker 5: then use like socialists, like anti capitalist arguments to try
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  Speaker 5: to get people to come to them, even though the
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  Speaker 5: other ones are kind of outperforming them at times. But yes,
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  Speaker 5: they like they're okay, this guy Aesa is the thing.
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  Speaker 5: Rubio's point there that they only want free oil, that's
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  Speaker 5: all it's about. No, like the US has blocked Cuba
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  Speaker 5: from getting any oil even if they pay for it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why he keeps lying about that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the pressure Mexico not to give Cuba oil.
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  Speaker 3: Right sell even.
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  Speaker 5: If they have fourteen billion dollars as he's saying they
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  Speaker 5: can buy oil and then but he they we won't
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  Speaker 5: let them. It's it's such a flagrant lie, and he
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  Speaker 5: just keeps telling it like just it's it's so bizarre.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, like there are blackouts before January second, Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 5: that's true. We've had sanctions on them since in the
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  Speaker 5: nineteen sixties, and we really tightened them in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 4: They've been poor stewards of their own economy. And we
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  Speaker 4: may disagree with on that in some ways, but the
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  Speaker 4: bottom line is, does a military intervention make that problem better?
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  Speaker 4: Does a military invenure make that problem worse? And that's
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  Speaker 4: the real question.
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  Speaker 5: And also poor stewards of or is it one poor
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  Speaker 5: stewers of the economy that have produced better education and
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  Speaker 5: health outcomes than the United States like over the now,
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  Speaker 5: not recently because now they're really getting smashed into the ground,
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  Speaker 5: But we should reflect on that. How is it that
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  Speaker 5: a communist government under these intense sanctions that Rubio says
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  Speaker 5: is horribly mismanaged. How are they outperforming the United States
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  Speaker 5: on health and education even under those all of those conditions.
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  Speaker 4: This a bit of a statement on our own management,
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  Speaker 4: of course here in the United States.
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  Speaker 5: Of and it might say something about the value of
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  Speaker 5: a robust public sector.
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  Speaker 4: Well on this point, Trump, actually let's go back to
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  Speaker 4: Iran briefly, because we have Trump posting untrue social yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: This is a seven speaking of what's true was false?
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  Speaker 4: Trump says fake news reports that the Islamic Republic of
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  Speaker 4: Iran and the USA stopped speaking a few days ago
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  Speaker 4: are false and erroneous. The conversations between us have been
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  Speaker 4: going on continuously, including four days, three days ago, two
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  Speaker 4: days ago, one day ago, in today. Where they lead
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  Speaker 4: one never knows. But as I told Iran, quote, it's time,
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  Speaker 4: one way or another for you to make a deal.
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  Speaker 4: You've been doing this for forty seven years and it
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  Speaker 4: cannot be allowed to go on any longer. So there
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  Speaker 4: he started speaking of the Cold War, starting the clock
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  Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy nine. It looks like, right, yeah, can.
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  Speaker 5: We acknowledge that doesn't make any sense? No, it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: beginning to end. Like you have to make a deal.
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  Speaker 5: But this thing that you have, the running government can't
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  Speaker 5: go on any longer. But if you make a deal
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  Speaker 5: that keeps you in power, then they can go on longer.
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  Speaker 3: What like.
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  Speaker 5: So the point that they are still talking is an
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  Speaker 5: important one. Like it was, it was overblown and at
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  Speaker 5: most Iran threatened to suspend negotiations right and then Trump
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  Speaker 5: responded by calling up then Yahoo and saying, don't bomb
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  Speaker 5: they route. According to Trump, there they're back on the
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  Speaker 5: one Rubio clip.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't play. There was this hilarious moment where.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was Chris van Holland or somebody is complaining,
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  Speaker 5: maybe Shots complaining that the Straight of horm moves is closed,
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  Speaker 5: and he's like, why does everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Keep blaming us for that?
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  Speaker 5: It's a Ran that closed the Strait of hor moves
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  Speaker 5: and we have almost every country in the world signing
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  Speaker 5: a petition to the UN complaining about Iran closing the
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  Speaker 5: Strait of Hormuz. There you go, and people are They're like,
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: are you serious, Like you're yeah, okay, maybe that's rude
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  Speaker 5: of them to do, but everyone predicted that they would
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  Speaker 5: do it and then they did it, so it's a
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  Speaker 5: little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. This was a back and forth with Rubio in
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  Speaker 4: the Senate yesterday as well. It was just like, did
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  Speaker 4: you predict that the Straight of Horror moves or did
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  Speaker 4: you fail to predict that the Straight of hormor Moose
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  Speaker 4: would be closed? But this is where Ryan, again, you
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  Speaker 4: keep talking about war. Let's put up the last element
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  Speaker 4: on the screen. The White House posted this yesterday and
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: I've failed to understand why this isn't working, Ryan, on
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: you at least trust in Trump all caps. Just sit
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: back and relax. It will all work out well in
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: the end. It always does. President Donald J. Trump check out.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, And Tucker famously said that right before the
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Iran war, he was like, Truckers, like, I really think
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: this is a mistake. I really think this is going
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: to blow up in your face. And Trump told him,
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: I know you do. I appreciate it, but don't worry.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: It'll work out. And talker said why and he's like,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: because it always.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Does, so beautiful.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: What's amazing is that he's still using the line after
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: it so plainly did not work out, Like, what about
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: this worked out?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: If the war is over, as Rubio says, it very
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: much did not work out. These two things are not
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: true at the same time.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: What didn't work out all? Like all of our bases
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: are in ashes. Yeah, Iran controls the strait of.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Hermovis, Yes, gases over four dollars.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Iron still has all this nuclear dust. Yes, gas is
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: approaching five dollars a gallon. Who was it Chevron or
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: somebody said, they're looking at one hundred and fifty to
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: sixty dollars a barrel in the next couple of weeks.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: If nothing changes, all of the kind of Goldman and
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: JP Morgan analysis that was propping up the markets assumed
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: that by July, the straight up from moves it wide open.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I got a calendar on my laptop here, it's getting close.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Clocks ticking, clock is ticking, yeah, the.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Whole time, and like reading these and out and I'm like,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know about this. Goldlin like were you sure?
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: Like why?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Like why right? And Trump's like, Wow, It's it's all
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: gonna It's all going to work out.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: What's extra sad is that some of this we know
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: from that big New York Times report with Jonathan Swan
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: and Maggie Haberman on the byline, we know that it
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: was Rubio and others inside of the administration predicting some
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: of this would happen. Everybody could have predicted some of
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: this would happen. And we're lukewarm on Trump's decision to
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: launch the February twenty eight strikes, partially because of what
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: they're now defending as this successful war. Yeah that's now over.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Rubio called the Israeli arguments bs right in that meeting.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Trump's like, oh, well, if it's fine, let's do it anyway.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we can move move to Israel. We had this
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: news earlier this week that there was this tense call
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: between Netanyahu and Trump.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Trump.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think a lot of people have
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: a very hard time hearing a word about angry phone
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: calls between an American president and Israeli prime minister, because like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: nothing seems.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: To ever change, even though they almost certainly. This is
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: part of what's so pathetic about it. The reports, I
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: actually think are very credible, whether it's barackravied ten different
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: times on Joe Biden being mad at Netanyahu when he
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: was awake, or now Donald Trump. That's what's so pathetic
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: about this is I think they actually are frustrated with
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: met Yahoo and then continue to make decisions in his benefit.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And Trump does flex his muscles on Netnyah, who sometimes famously,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: remember he made net Nyah who apologized to the Amir
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: of Katur when he bombed the Hamas building in Doha.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: In Doha, net Yaho then denied it, and then the
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: White House produced a photo of Netyah who reading the
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: apology onto the phone.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Remember that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was humiliating, but also kind of for us too.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: So these things do happen, But then that's the end
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: of it Nenyah who knows like, Okay, I'm gonna like
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: take a little spanking here, but then he's going to
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: back off me and I'm gonna be able to do
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: whatever I want.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Uh So it's a mare Benavie. Uh we I guess
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: we could put this.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Put B one up up on the screen here, posted
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: mister Prime Minister. You said that a strong PM tells
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: the President of the United States yes when possible and
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: no when necessary. This is the time to tell our
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: friend President Trump no. Now is the time to do
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: what is required and necessary to strike Hesbala, to unleash
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: the hands of our fighters and to restore security to
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: the north.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: You put up B two. This is Ben Gavie.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: This is he goes and visits a settlement and says,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: in all honesty, the suburbs of.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Beirute need to be flattened. They need to be flattened.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: I opposed the previous cease fire, and today I'm also
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: saying the suburb the suburbs must be flattened. So that
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: this is the kind of range of debate going on within.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Israel right now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: It's the Defense Minister, national Security, national security advisory, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Lebanon is the sticking point in a war between Iran
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: in the United States where we're trying to reach a deal,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: the sticking point is Israel wanting to go to war
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: with Lebanon.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: And you at Drop Site. You all at Drop Site,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Jeremy and your whole team has been reporting on how
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: this is factoring in into the negotiations as a sticking point.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: So what we're seeing play out right here in Israel
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: and in Lebanon is really critical. So when the war
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: may actually end, contra the claims of Secretary of that
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: it's already over.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we can put up B three.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: This is also a vo Here's this footage from Courtney Bou,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: courageous reporter in southern Lebanon who's been reporting on the
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: endless violence and an ethnic cleansing going on there.
• 21:50
  Speaker 10: And you are at the side of a hospital Abida,
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: which has been attacked several times by Israel.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Talk to us about what the scene is like there.
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: That's right. This is the third time that there has
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: been a strike in the vicinity of Jebel Amel Hospital.
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: The doctors and medical workers here are describing them as
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: proximity strikes. The hospitals here. You see the facade of
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: the hospital has been heavily damaged. We were able to
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: go inside the ICU as well as the critical care
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: unit and several of the other floors. It's been significantly
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: damaged inside. Some of the operating rooms are not usable,
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: some of the treatment rooms are no longer usable, a
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: lot of damage to the equipment.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: We met a mother.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: Who had an infant child.
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: In the premature care unit prenatal birth care unit, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: she actually came to the hospital after the strike.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: She was happy to find that her baby was alive,
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: but a lot of damage around the place that the
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: baby was too close for comfort for her. You see
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: this extensive damage all throughout this neighborhood. This is the
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: parking lot.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: And so meanwhile is the Israeli military conquered the Beaufort Castle.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: This is a Crusader castle that was we can put
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: up this vio here before. It's a crusader castle that
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: was very important in the twelfth century, and we can
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: talk about the last time the Israeli captured it. Immediately
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: after capturing it, they put up a celebratory video with
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: a bunch of IDF soldiers showing off that they took
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: this crusader castle. Hesbela then watched that video, saw where
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: the Israeli troops were and immediately launched a drone swarm
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: at them, and at least three IDF soldiers were fatal
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: casuals others injured. A tank was destroyed. I think two
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: ATC's were destroyed. And so I don't know if you
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: saw this, but the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: went to the UN and delivered what is to me
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: one of the most like eyebrow raising like I don't
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: even know what to say, it's like kind of speechless
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: at it. Let's roll this.
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: This is an example of a due used by his Bala.
• 24:14
  Speaker 12: This is what we are dealing with now. His Bala
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: are using different kinds of domes, few of them with
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: fiber optic. These domes weigh less than two kilograms. It
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: flies low, It is very difficult to detect, and by
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: the time you hear it above your head, it's too late.
• 24:39
  Speaker 12: It can fly undetected for tens of miles and all
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: of a sudden you see it above your head. A
• 24:49
  Speaker 12: thin cable is what makes this done different.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: It does not rely on a radio signal.
• 24:54
  Speaker 12: It cannot be easily jammed Unfortunately, it gives the operator
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: a live video feed and they wept control until impact.
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: This is a modern wall fill, cheap, precise, deadly.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: So, Emily, what you just saw there was the representative
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: of an invading army invading an occupying army, complaining that
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: the people he's invading, of which they have killed three
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: thousand civilians in recent months, that they're fighting back in.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: The three thousand is since the war since thee far right.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, unbelievable, and.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: They're like, what they want the UN to condemn.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: That hesbel is fighting back. Yeah, of course, it's very strange,
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Like how do you like trying to get money? I
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: feel like like that is it's so divorced from reality. Meanwhile,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: the effort to annext.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: This this.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Greater israelarticularly when it comes to the West Bank, continues
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: to pace.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And so let's let's bring.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: In Josh Paul to talk about the legal mechanisms underway there.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: The Israeli government.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Has been using antiquities laws for quite some time now
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: to try to seize in the next West Bank territory
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: and as well as Go Gozen territory at some point.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: But now the US is getting involved in a more
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: direct way to help us kind of unpack what's going
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: on here. Josh Paul from a New Policy is here
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: to walk us through some of what he's discovering. We're
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: all and we'll also talk about this new development where
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: the Israelis are responding to pressure on the US to
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: cut to military support or military spending to boost the
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Israelis by saying, well, how don't we just integrate with
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: the Pentagon make it all one thing.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that on the back end of this.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: On the front end of this, First of all, thank
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: you for joining us in congrats. I know you guys
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: supported Adam Hamway last night. Your colleague was up in Trenton,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: New Jersey.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you. Adam is a great candidate. Actually, about
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: ninety percent of the candidates we endorsed yesterday one their
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: races all moved on to the next round. I think
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: it's a sign that America is really shifting and the
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: politics are finally beginning to catch up.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: People may remember Josh from the longtime State Department official
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: who resided in protest over the Israeli genocide in Gaza.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: So what is the American Heritage Commission?
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Tell us the story of this. This is a we
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: can put this first element up on the screen. This
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: is a crazy story.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: It is an absolutely crazy story.
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: And for us, it began by reading the Annual Appropriations
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: Act that provides funding for US foreign policy, which is
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: moving through Congress right now. And buried deep in the
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: text of this, you know, several hundred page bill, is
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: a line that endorses the work of the US Commission
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: for the Protection of a Heritage of American Citizens Overseas
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: or broad and dorses in particular its work in East
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: Jerusalem and its support to the Israeli City of David project.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: And that called all right, because the Israeli City of
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: David project is, as you said, ethnic cleansing undercover of archaeology.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: It's a project that has so far displaced over one thousand,
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: over fifteen hundred actually Palestinians in the Silwan neighborhood of
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: Each Jerusalem, has demolished over one hundred Palestinian homes in
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: the name of an archaeological dig And so we said, well,
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: when a second, what is this US Commission and what
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: is its involvement here? So we did the research and
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: the US Commission was created actually in nineteen eighty five
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: in the Cold War. If you remember, this was the
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: time of Pope John Paul the Second, the Catholic Pope
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: from Poland, at the time of Anatoli Sharansky, the Jewish
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: dissident from Moscow, and so religion was front and center,
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: and this Commission was created, i think, as a part
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: of that struggle, with a particular focus on American heritage
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: in Central and East Europe, in those parts that were
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: then under Soviet influence. Today, the Heritage Commission that remains
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: its remit that's supposed to be the left and right limits,
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: and yet starting a few years ago, it has been
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: increasingly involved in backing Israel's ethnic cleansing and its archaeological
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: quote unquote digs, particularly in East Jerusalem. And if you
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: look at the Heritage Commission, that's actually not that surprising
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: because of who it is made up by. So right now,
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: the chair of the Commission is a lady called leslie Wise.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: She was the US envoy to the International Holocaust Remembrance Assembly,
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: the organization that came out with that now infamous definition
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: that says criticism of Israel is anti Semitism.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Which the US then cardified in the law.
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: Which the US and continues to try to advance and
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: apply to shut down debate in academia. Also on the
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: Commission's board is Herbert Bloch, who is president of the
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: American Zionist Movement, and most interestingly, a guy a New
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: York investor Duek Joseph Dwek, who actually appeared on essentially
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: a spin off, a fake version of Shark Tank that
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: was created specifically for Israeli settlers to pitch their ideas
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: for illegal Israeli settlers.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: So that sounds like something someone would come up with
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: on a fake Shark Tank, like SNL Shark Tank, Like
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: it's another version of Shark Tank, but it's for settlers.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: And this is the guy who's now driving US policy
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: and now bringing Congress behind to support ethnic cleansing in
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: the West Bank and East Jerusalem.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Can you tell us a bit more, actually play a
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: little bit of the Shark Tank first, Yeah, let's roll this.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: One of the main goals of the Farm is protecting
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: the lands of the State of Israel by being here.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: That's actually what we're doing, giving Jewish presents to these
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: lands that were deserted.
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: Our Farm Project initiative comes to unite and bring together
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: forty two farms of Judah and Samaria.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Sixty thousand acres is the amount of land that our
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: farmers protect in Judah and Sameria. Yeah, so tell us
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: a bit about why they say what they're doing is important.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: So we've talked a bit about the outcome, but what
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: do they say the stakes are for their ability to
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: do what they want to do?
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: So interestingly, if you look at the commission website, it
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: actually doesn't make any mention of their work in Jerusalem
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: or in Palestine, probably because it's well outside of their
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: actual mandate. You know, they are given seven hundred and
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: seventy thousand dollars in taxpayer money each year. This is
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: a commission that meets twice a year. So how they're
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: spending seven hundred and seventy thousand dollars I think is
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: a pretty opaque question and needs to be looked into.
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: They refer on their website to their work in Europe.
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: They make reference to one project they have in Armenia,
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: but nothing on this so I don't think that beyond
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: they've done a couple of public statements and public engagements
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: with an organization called Elad. This is another interesting threat
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: to Paul This is an Israeli nonprofit that is backing
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: these archaeological digs. It in turn is funded by Russian oligar,
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: now sanctioned Russian oligarch Roban A.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: Rumovich.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: So you have this US Commission working with an organization
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: backed by a sanctioned Russian oligarch to pursue ethnic cleansing
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: in Jerusalem. The only you know, real recent reference to that,
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: beyond their public statements over you know, five years ago,
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: is now in this congressional text in which Republicans in
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: Congress are essentially backing the work of the Commission in
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: East Jerusalem specifically and trying to pursue funding for this
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: City of David ethnic cleansing project.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: And correct me if I'm wrong.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: The twenty twenty one war in Gaza was sparked by
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: this precise project, right, this is shik Jira ethnic cleansing.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Hamas said, stop, you know, evicting Palestinians from this neighborhood,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: or we're going to fire. They went forward and continued
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: to ethnically cleanse the area. Hamas fired, Israel attacked Gaza back.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and Jerusalem is a particular flashpoints we've just seen
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: in the last few Weeks claims that some within the
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: Israeli government are looking to shift what they call the
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: status quo on the haramal Sharif or Temple Mount to
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: you know, expand Israel's presence. And you know, that is
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: such a tense area that drives I think a lot
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: of instability not only in Jerusalem and Gaza in Palestine,
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: but across the Middle East. But it is also an
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: agenda that fits very nicely into what some are pursuing
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: through what they call Christian Zionism, which is, you know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: essentially not only supporting Israel's objectives, but using this essentially
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: as a means to lead to that ultimate battle that
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: Christian Zionists believe will will you bring back Jesus and
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: you know, lead to the end times. So I think
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: it's a very dangerous project.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: How does this antiquaries law play out in the West Bank,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: and particularly the one that the Canesseid is now pushing
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: one and an even more aggressive one.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So in the West Bank there are a number
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: of sites where Israel is now trying to exert. So
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: right now Israel's occupation in the West Bank is by
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: and larger military occupation. They are trying to create a
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: new civilian archaeological authority to take control of certain West
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: Bank sites that they call heritage sites.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: This would be.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: Essentially a de facto annexation once you start saying this
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: is no longer a military occupation, this is now under
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: civilian governance, civilian rule, it's part of Israel. And so
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: that's just another example of how Israel is trying to
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: use archaeology as a pretext for ethnic cleansing and for annexation.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting is what you said that it seems
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: like it's maybe a thin pretense here as well, and
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: that if they're not even boasting about their archaeological progress
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: or ambitions in this area. You mentioned they talked about
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Armenia and other places on their website, it seems like
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: that's a rather thin pretext in this case if they
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: don't have specifics they're pointing to.
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: Well, I think it's a thin pretext for the Heritage Commission,
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: because again, this is where outside of their men date,
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: Israel has made a great show of it is archaeological findings,
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: although several of those who have come into question in
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: recent years. There was a famous case just in the
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: last year where a coin that was found was found
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: then needed to be fraudulently created. So and you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: even to the extent I mean, clearly there's a lot
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: of important history in Israel in Palestine that deserves attention.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: But there's no reason that history can't be that of
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: a shared history, a shared heritage, and understood research developed
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: in coordination and cooperation with the Palestinians, rather than destroying
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: their homes and displacing them from their historic land in
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: order to promote a narrative.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Ultimately, what's put up b B six.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: So people may have seen this, this news that you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: under pressure from J Street AOC, like the increasing democratic
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: opposition to continuing to fund the Israeli military, which even
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Nenyaho has said, we want to phase it out.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like we want it. We're done with this.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: These American subsidies Section two twenty four of the NDAA
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: effect tell us what it's doing. Like it's described as
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: effectively blending together the Israeli military and the Pentagon in
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: a way that would make it basically impossible for critics
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: to come in and say, we want this stopped. How
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: would this as somebody from the State State Department whose
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: job it was to oversee this relationship or not oversee
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: the relationship heavily involved in relationship. What is the difference
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: in this approach versus what we have had up until now?
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Thanks Ryan.
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: So first let's start by taking a step back and realizing,
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: I think one fact, everyone I think at this point
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: can acknowledge APAK are losing. They the American people have
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: had a transformation of opinion public opinion when it comes
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: to Palestine into Israel. You know, if we look at
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: the current election cycle that you've been discussing, we see
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: that there is very clearly an advance for those who
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: stand up who are willing to call a genocide a genocide.
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: And in that context, what APAC are trying to do
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: and Israel and their allies is essentially lock in the
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: current relationship because they realize that, you know, the next
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: these midterms might bring a shift in the House or
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: in the Senate or in both, and it's just going
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: to get continually harder and harder for them over time.
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: Right now, we give Israel three point eight billion dollars
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: of American tax payer money every year for their military.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: In fact, in some years significantly more than that, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: that's just not going.
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: To be sustainable.
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: I don't think anyone looking at current American politics, looking ahead,
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: you know, five ten years, imagines that members of Congress
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: are going to be okay with continuing that funding.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: So if you're them, what do you do?
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: How do you lock in the current relationship and get
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: around the you know, democracy, the democracy right exactly, the
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: public opinion and Congress is increasingly increasing unwillingness to just
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: sort of hand out American funds. And the way you
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: do that is by entrenching the US Israel defense relationships
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: so deep in the machinery of the Pentagon and in
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: the production of America's industrial base that it becomes impossible
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: to root out. And that's what this section of law,
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: section two twenty four is trying to do. This is
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: part of something called the National Defense Authorization Act. It's
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: an annual so called must pass bill and it's going
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: through the House Arm Services Committee tomorrow Thursday, fourth of June.
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: And this is in the base text. This has been
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: put there by the chairman of the committee, Chairman Rogers.
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: So it is going to be very hard to root out.
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: I think we will have a shot tomorrow. Representative Rokano
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: is going to introduce an amendment to try and strip
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: it out.
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: If that fails, Republican.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: Representative Thomas Massey has said he's going to try to
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: pull it out on the floor, and if that pails,
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: then we still have a battle to fight in the
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: Senate and again when the two bills come together during
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: what they call conference in November December. But look, this
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: is in some ways the ballgame. Once this language is
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: in there, it first of all tells God that it
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: has to do everything it can to integrate Israeli technology
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: into American weapons platforms. It identifies a series of areas
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: for US and Israel to cooperate and research together, including
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: the most sensitive technologies you can imagine, biological technologies, quantum technologies, AI.
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: And it creates an executive agent at the Pentagon whose
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: job is to move this program forward. That's an executive
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: agent who would be able to essentially overrule the people
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: in charge of defense technology security at the Pentagon, the
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: policy people.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: Any of this.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: So once the ball starts rolling, it becomes very difficult
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: to pull out.
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: You see corporate.
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: Contracts, government to government contracts, academic contracts being signed that
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: are hard to unwind. And I think one of the
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: worst aspects here. At final thing is that it really
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: flips the script on leverage. If you think about the
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: US Israel relationship right now, we have the leaverage. We
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: don't use it right we should. It exists, but it exists.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: We can cut the funding, we can cut the weapons.
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: Once you make American arms supply and the American war
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: fighter's advantage dependent on the Israeli supply chain, they can
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: do that. They can say, well, you know, we're not
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: going to provide this technology anymore that enables your fighter jets,
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: your electronics systems, whatever it might be. So it really
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: puts us under their thumb.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: And their specialty is cyber weapons and cyber surveillance. American
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: or multinational tech companies have already absorbed enormous numbers of
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Israeli startups. They're involved in the cyber space, and so
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: there's already a ton of that in there. But that's
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: technically largely private companies, even though they're very much linked
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: up with Unit eighty two hundred and others other elements
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: of the of the national security apparatus. But so if
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: we if they are in the factories and their specialization
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: cyber weapons and cyberside well, that means they basically have
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: or could have kill switches and tracking on basically our
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: entire industrial base and a military industrial base.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, first of all, let's recognize why Israel's cybersecurity
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: and cyber surveillance ecosystem is so capable. It's very much
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: the same way that America's pharmaceutical industry became so capable
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: in the sixties and seventies with you know, experiments that
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: they could conduct on unwitting populations in Sub Saharan Africa
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: and Latin America. Today, israel cybersecurity industry can carry out
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: experiments essentially on the unwitting Palestinian population, and that's what
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: they've done. And then they take that technology that they've
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: developed on Palaestinians and sell it to for example, Ice
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: to use on Americans. But it's very clear that that
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: ecosystem cannot be trusted. There's you know, been a number
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: of lawsuits, public lawsuits. For example, Meta has sued an
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: organization called NSO Group, and Israeli spyware Manufacturers which makes
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: peg Apple.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: Has sued them too. There's an ongoing suit.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: In Pegasus even banned by the US, So good question.
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: Pegasus has been sanctioned by the US along with a
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: number of other companies that specialize in cyber intrusions and
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: you know, revealing you know, the information, and in part
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: because Pegasus software was used to target American civilians and officials,
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: Jamal Koshogi and others.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: So we're going to absorb a sanctioned entity and bring
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: it into our own.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: So, first of all, there's there's warning signs that those
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: sanctions may be going away. There is movement right now
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: within the State Department to try and repeal those limitations
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: around the NSO group. But the NSO group is just
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: the tip of the icebergers. You noted, all of these
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: organizations have deep, deep ties personnel funding to Israel's eighty
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: two hundred, their equivalent of our National Security Agency. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: you know, THRILL has shown no compunction whatsoever, and it's
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: willingness to steal American technology, to steal American secrets, right,
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, Jonathan Pollard, one of the most famous spies
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: who stole American nuclear technology, is now in the Israeli camesset.
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: And this is the ecosystem that we're going to be
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: bringing into our most sensitive military technology.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: It just is absolutely insane desperation.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so where the leverage points. So you've got Conna
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: and Massy for people who are watching this and aren't
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: all the way black pilled. I can imagine a bunch
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: of people just turn it off like all right, we're cooked.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe the leverage points are the lobby from Apple
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: and Meta.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so the ones for people still watching who
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: haven't completely given up.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Hope, Who who do people talk to?
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: So first of all, this isn't law yet.
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: It's going through the committee, through the Services Committee in
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: the House tomorrow. But you know, you can call your
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: representatives today and ask them whether they're on the committee
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: or no. People on the committee not to support this,
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: to support Consman Corner's attempt to pull it out, to
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: support Congressman Massy's attempt to pull it out on the
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: Florida comes to that, they should also be calling their
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: senators to put not put it into the Senate version
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: of this bill. I think the more people are speaking
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: about this and more people are aware of it, they're
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: feeling the pressure.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: So Mike Rogers, I could see it becoming a litmus
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: test vote.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: I think it will be.
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: And there's a lot of things that are going to
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: be a part of this year's NDA process. You know,
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: the president is seeking an incredible increase in military funding,
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: but I think this is going to be very much
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: a test including four Republicans, because the Republican base doesn't
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: like this either, and I think they don't want to
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: see their members voting to integrate our defense system, our
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: most sensitive technologies with a foreign country who can then
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: use that as leverage. That's not America.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: First, I would say, Emily, you correct me. You know
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: this Republican conference better.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: They believe right now, if as long as they have
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Trump's endorsement, they're safe. Trump will not be here forever,
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: in not next Michael, but the one after.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: He'll be here forever.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: He might be here forever. He's the devil easy.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he could, he could. He could last the law immortal.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: But let's say he isn't here forever, and let's say
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: his influence over our political system phase. How dangerous do
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: you think it could be to have this vote on
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: your on your record in a Republican primary in a
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: world in which there are open primaries, because Trump is
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: not able to just shut them off by endorsing people.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: And this isn't really even just a Trump issue. This
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: is a broader America first issue, and so I don't
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: necessarily know that Trump is going to wade into primaries
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: to defend people on a vote like this. But what
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I could see is people entering primaries because they now
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: have this powerful tool to say, you voted for the
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: most America last thing possibly.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Foreign government into our military right.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: So that was just I think that's just powerful on
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: its own, not necessarily just in a a sort of
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: declining Boomer power structure Republican Party that I think is
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: powerful on its own. But it's the NDAA, that's the thing.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: That's why they're putting it in the NDAA because it
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: makes it impossible for many people to vote against. That's
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: why they're putting it there because they can say, oh,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: you didn't vote for national defense. But that's what they're doing.
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: But there are plenty of opportunities along the way, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: you know, it's certainly not impossible, although it's certainly going
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: to be difficult for a future Congress and a future
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: administration to rescind this legislation. But the sooner if this
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: makes it into law, the sooner that's done, the better,
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: because the longer it is there the harder it will be.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's sure.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Well, Josh Paul from a New Policy, thanks so much
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: for keeping this updated.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Up next election updates, we're.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Of course coming to you here on Wednesday morning, and
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: as of right now we're looking at the latest we
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: can put this first element up on the screen. We
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: have sixty three percent of the vote in in Los
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Angeles mayoral election, and Karen Bass has thirty four point
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: eight percent of the vote. Spencer Pratt has thirty point
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: four percent of the vote, Nithie Rahman all the way
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: down at twenty two point three percent of the vote.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: But as Ryan and I were talking earlier in the show,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: actually it's not impossible for Nithi Rahman to pull this
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: out based on the way that ballots are counted in
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles. So Ryan, I would say it's unlikely at
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: this point that she's able to make up that eight points,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: But after early ballot dumps and the Rick Caruso race,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: he fell seven points and like that's what happened when
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: the last drops of ballots were counted. So it's possible, unlikely,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: but possible still that Nithie Ramen could pull this.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Off and I no offense to La.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: I don't have a dog in this fight, and so
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: just objectively speaking, I think i'd rather be Nithia actually
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: right now, like if I were Spencer Pratt, I would
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: not feel that that was enough of a lead, because,
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: as Dan was talking about on the program yesterday, usually
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Democrats get their ballots in earlier. But because the gubernatorial
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: race with Swallwell getting thrown out and like nobody having
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: any idea kind of how to vote, and because the
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: top two thing makes you it makes your voting decision making.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: That much more complicated.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: Yet because you have to think strategically why rank choice
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: voting is so much better because then you just I
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: don't have to like strategically game theory out how my
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: other fellow citizens are going to vote.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: I can just you still kind of do that with
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: ranked choice.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: But yeah, but you one, two, three, four, five, Yeah,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: there's some strategy, but it's it's a little less. It's
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: more like my favorite person is this person's second favorite
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: is this one? With this when you're like, well, I
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: like Karen Well, I'd like Karen Bass, but I'd rather
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: vote for Nythia because I don't want Pratt to be
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: in or now Nythia's rising, so I'm going to vote
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: for It's like yeah, So, because you have to spend
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: so much time thinking about it, you need the most information.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: And so therefore Democrats waited until the last right up
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: until election day for the most part to vote.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: A lot of them did.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: So that means there's many many Democratic votes still out
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: there compared to Republicans. So I'd be very nervous if
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I are Pratt.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Well, he was not nervous even going into the race.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Let's throw it love. See two here Spencer Pratt. He
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: said he would be over fifty percent.
• 49:22
  Speaker 10: Take a look, somebody gets fifty percent plus one.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow race is over. How do you see this going?
• 49:30
  Speaker 10: I believe I'm winning tomorrow night.
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: Outright.
• 49:33
  Speaker 10: I think there's a tsunami of votes coming from all
• 49:36
  Speaker 10: the people that are done with politics as usual. They
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: want an outsider, they want a disruptor. There's no polls
• 49:43
  Speaker 10: that show it anywhere close to being fifty percent for you.
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: What do you say to that?
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: I would say to all those people that I have,
• 49:49
  Speaker 10: they're not talking to polsters. Their moms trying to dodge
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: naked zombies with a stroller. There are people walking their
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: dogs to the park, making sure their dog doesn't step
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: on a fentinyl needle or if some fentanyl, or walk
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: over human poop to get a macha. Those people don't
• 50:05
  Speaker 10: have time to talk to a polster.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Let's go. Let's go, all right, right, you said he
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: may not have enough of the leady feel comfortable. I
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: would counter that by saying, it's also possible there's the
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: sort of shy Pratt vote that might come on to
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: the last minute. Let's it does not look trying.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: To sneak in when yeah, I saw them.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Well, let's take a look at the gubernatorial results, because
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: it's not looking great for Steve Hilton in that race.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Because as of right now we can put it up
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: on the screen, fifty seven point five percent of the
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: vote is in Hilton's at twenty seven point eight percent,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Javier Besera is at twenty five point four percent, or
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: as Joe Biden would say, Bakaria twenty five point four percent,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: and Tom Styer is at nineteen point six percent. So, again,
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: with the way that California results are counted, if this
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: next ballot drop goes the way people expect it to go,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: you may see Javier Besara and Tom Steyer.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, again, I wouldn't want to be Hilton. That's
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: he's going to be.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I think he might not make the top two,
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: which is so crazy to things. You look at that
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: and you're like, oh, he's first, He's going to be fine, right, Like, well,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: there's a lot more than there's lot more votes than
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: the numbers that you saw on that, which again break
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: California up, Like what are you doing? No other state
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: or country has a problem like this.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: One of the reasons I'm a bit skeptical that Ramen
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, it's a little different than gubernatorial race,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: but in Ramen's situation in particular, there Pratt's candidacy is
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: predicated on the idea of bringing in people perhaps from
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: the left or center left. So it doesn't seem impossible
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: to me that he's different than a Rick Caruso. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: don't know about Steve Hilton. I think Steve Hilton that's
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: a different question. But it is possible that it's not
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: going to be exactly like other races where the late
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: ballot drops were way more favorable to the left. We
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: could see a more so muller margin just solidifying.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: It's true if if and yeah, if there's a whole
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: bunch of Karen Bass votes that don't go to Anythia, right, yeah,
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: or if be Sarah gets a ton of the Democratic
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: votes that are outstanding rather than them being split between
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: him and Styre, then then yeah, So the Republicans are in,
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: They're in the race like they it's still possible for them.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: We'll tell you in about a month when they're done counting.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get back to probably around the fourth of July.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable routing that's not getting talked about it enough for
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Katie Porter. She's at four point six two hundred and
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: thirty thousand votes right now. Unbelievable routing of Katie Porter.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Some good news, Yeah, somebody like Katie Porter. You see
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: this in politicians where it's like you have.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: She was a House member on the Financial Services Committee.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: She was extremely good at that.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: She deeply understands finance and it's it's editory nature, and
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: she was able to use the position that she had
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: to advance the agenda that she has, and she just
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: kept hunting for other like positions. And I've seen it
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: so many times in politics. It's like just stop like
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: you're good, like Nancy Mayce, like I was like this,
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: this lady's going to flame out somehow, And she runs
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: for governor for why why not?
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Like you can have that House seat.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: You probably have that House seat forever, despite all of
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: the shenanigans going on in your office and in your
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: personal life. But then they go for something else that
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: they're just not You just know you're not going to
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: reach it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: And so this is the Katie Porter.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: But she went for the Senate right now, she went
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: for this, yeah, flopping each time. And now that position
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: that she had where she was able to really punish
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: these banks rights and see she doesn't have anymore. And
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: so Crypto wins, Wall Street wins, and she loses in
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: the public loses because I think she was like a
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: genuinely useful weapon to have in the House of Representatives.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: If you're progressive, it's certainly fair to see it that way.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: And yeah, and I think even like if you're anybody
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: that wants to see bankers progressive or not, want if
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: you want to see bankers squirm in their seats, and
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: who doesn't want to see bankers squirm in their seats?
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: But anyway, so nobody takes my advice. Let's head to
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: New Jersey, right, so Adam Hamill.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: We So this is the.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: This is the doctor who the New York Post and
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: Jewish Insider were accusing of having al Qaeda links. Actually,
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: I just saw Mike Lawler. Let me see if I
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: still have this up. This Mike Lawler. He tweeted out,
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: how in the hell this is the New York seventeen
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: like Republican member of Congress who's always powlling around with
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: joh Schottenheimer. He says, how in the hell has a
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: defense witness in the nineteen ninety three w World Trade
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: Center bombing with ties to al Qaeda been nominated by
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: the Democrats to serve in Congress. That's almost that's very
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: similar to the subhead on the New York Times article
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: about his victory. You know, he also served eight years
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: in the military. It was a combat surgeon. The al
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Qaeda things. In nineteen ninety four, we talked about this.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: In the part of nineteen ninety four, he volunteered with
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: an organization that a decade later was raided as a
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: front for al Qaeda. Also nineteen ninety four, the only
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: people that knew who al Qaeda was was basically the
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: CIA was probably funding them. Like no people, no unless
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: you like fought in Afghanistan, like knew who al Qaeda
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: even was.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: It was nineteen ninety eight when they.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Hit the call and the embassy that they become like
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: a thing that people know about. So I mean, yes,
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: red conning that to say he's therefore is out Kaida.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Has Lawler served in? Did Laller serve in Iraq? I
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: don't think so, Like.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's it's you want to criticize him for
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: for knowing the blind chic and getting called to testify
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: in that trial, go ahead, whatever, I.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: Think there's fair. I think there's pretty fair criticisms of
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Hamawi's prior associations. But we asked the people can go
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: watch it. We asked him all these questions.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Answer it was like, look, the Muslim community is extremely small.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Everybody knew everybody. I knew that guy.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which is maybe not the best defense, but actually
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: people can The people in New Jersey had their opportunity
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: to listen and hear out the arguments, and they went
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: with them.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so and so he won.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: So the thing he's known for most recently is doing
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: multiple rotations as a volunteer doctor in hospitals in Gaza,
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: and we reported on him at the time two years
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: ago where the Israelis had surrounded the hospital that he
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: was in, off the water supply. The Western doctors inside
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: the hospital, some of them were on like ivy drips
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: because of the Israeli siege of the hospital. They were
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: trying to get the Western doctors to leave and not
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: be replaced by another rotation of Western doctors so then
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: they could then raid the hospital. And he refused, And
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: even when some in his rotation left, he and two
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: others stayed saying we're not leaving until another rotation of
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: Western doctors comes in. And under massive international pressure, particularly
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: it came from Tammy Duckworth, whose life he saved as
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: a combat surgeon in Iraq, the Israelis buckled and allowed
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: another wave of Western doctors to come in and replace him.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: So then he went back out and.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Now he's going to Congress and Micha Lawler can sit
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: and spin.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's they are going to have a lot to
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: feast on. Then the next how long is this going
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: to be? Like the.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: Well, it's very blue sea too. Yeah, so he's gonna
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: he's gonna win, but they're.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Going to try to Washington. I think he'll try to
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: use him in other races. That would be my assumption.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead, go for it.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: And then in Iowa, this race has been moved by
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: the Cook Political Report to toss up because of whod
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Democrats nominated for their governatorial pick, Josh Turick.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Schumer dropped nine million dollars to boost Turik. Here
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: looks how he worked. It certainly worked. So he beat
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: Zach Walls by almost what twenty five points there and
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: yeah he's the Paralympian.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of populous as well.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he won a we talught we talked about this.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: I think his record was in slightly fudged about the
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: district that he won, but it is it is true
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: to say that the district that he represents in the
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: House went for Trump. It's also its Council Bluffs, which
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: is a kind of a suburb of Omaha. It does
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: have some conservative, serious conservatives streak to it. They do
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: have a history of nominating Democrats at the state level
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: or electing Democrats at the state level. But yeah, well
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: we'll see in a wave year. Uh, with I think
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: what Henson Representative. Hinson is the Republican nominee. Just kind
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: of a corporate Republican in a blue wave year. Certainly
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: this Iowa is on the map.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hugely on the map. We should also and I
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: wanted to mention another Iowa race. This is uh we
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: can put up on the screen the next element. This
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: is the MAHA backed candidate, Zach Lane beats Randy Fiinstraw.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: This is Trump's endorsement in Iowa for the Goobernatorial primary,
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Trump's first lost. Fienstra got a last minute endorsement from Trump.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Zach Lane is a Maha farmer guy. He has worked
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: for like he worked for a tea party group in
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: interesting candidate Interesting. Yeah, he's been pounding the glash to
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: say it stuff. Maha is really really optimistic about what
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: they just saw and actually is kind of using it
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: as to take a little victory lap and say the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: grassroots is Maha and the grassroots is going to You
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: can't take for granted the grassroots support that you get
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: from Maha as a Republican MAGA candidate and feature this
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: did not work for him. Zack Lane was also endorsed
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: by Turning Point Action. I think it was, and this
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: all worked out great for Zach Lane, who, despite the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: last minute intervention of Donald Trump, Lane has seen as
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: kind of more Maga like Seens, more hardline feature is seen
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: a bit as more establishment. So man quite an interesting outcome.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Trump's first loss. We were talking about last week. He
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: had all these screenshots up on his true social about
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: how he was the undefeated king of this primary cycle,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent of his picks down the line. Totally true.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: He didn't really do much in the Iowa race. He
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: just tossed out an endorsement literally on Friday. It wasn't much.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: He wasn't trying to sway this result in one way
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: or the other for the most part, but it didn't.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: The endorsement itself didn't work, and so that's usually that
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: endorsements enough now at ninety nine percent, usually just.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: A tweet does it, you'd think.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Lane had a lot of support, so that's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: definitely you're right, we should get him on the show.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: That's one to follow. Montana had some interesting results as well.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Ryan Yes, this kind of union smoke jumper Sam Forstagg
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: who Burnie AO see back to MAOC.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Had a rally for him.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: I said yesterday the progressive vote between him and Cleveland
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: would probably be split too much for him to win.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Shows what I know for Stag. Well, we'll see this
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: progressive vote is split here, but he's currently up by
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: three thousand votes and four points and NBC calling it
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: too close to call. But you'd rather be four Stag
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: right there. That's that's that would be a win for
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: kind of the AOC, particularly going into Montana, and you know,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: making the case that this is not just a bronx
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: and queens populism, that it can work, that it can
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: work around the country. Aaron Flint is the Republican nominee
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: who replaces Zinc Ryan Zinky. So it's a Republican leaning seat,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: but it's it's a competitive seat, and in a blue
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: wave year, you could imagine this being a flip DC
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Democrats wanted Ryan Bussey, like the more corporate Democrat, so
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: it's an It's nice when Democrats or voters have this
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: opportunity to say no, no, no. Actually running a populace is
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: a better tactical move. It's one thing to say, Okay,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: I like them better, I like their policies better. It's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: another thing to be able to demonstrate no, this is
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: this is actually the way to win in as.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Well with Turk.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: I think there's a good example too, the same thing
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: you're talking about. Let's go back to California. We're going
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: to do Viegas, Matsui, and Gonzalez. So let's start with Vegas. Ryan,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: what are you taking a look at here?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we had Randy Vegas on eight a week and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: a half ago or so. Yeah, he's the he's community
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: college professor and auto shop owner from Bakersfield. D Tribac
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: endorsed against him, endorsed Jasmine Bains. Democratic Majority for Israel
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: came in big for Bains, spent millions.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Like the attack ads.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: On on Viegas were just absolutely relentless, and you know
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: it's not it's not over yet. But we're looking at
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: you know, he's up two thousand votes. He's in second
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: place behind David Blato, the Republican, but he's he's in,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: he's on track to make the top two.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: All right, let's go to California seven, Ryan, what are
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: we looking at here? In the Doris Spots results.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: People may remember Mayvang who was on the show recently.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: She's challenging Doris Matt Suey become a Democrat in her eighties,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: long time support from a pack and from corporate packs,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: like if it was a very standard kind of corporate democrat.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: She and her husband have held this seat I think
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: for like forty plus years collectively. Doris Matt Suey took
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: out a bunch of money and helped in her backers
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: put together a superpack that supported this guy. Zach Wooden
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: was like a Republican college student because they were trying
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: to get him into the top two. And so right
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: now you've got Doris Matt Suey at thirty two thousand votes,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Mayvang at twenty six thousand, and Zach Wooden the college
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: kid at twenty five thousand. So Mayvang is a head
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: of Wooden by zero point eight. But as we were
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: saying earlier, there's so many Democratic votes out compared to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Republican votes that he would have to be kind of
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: way ahead to survive the wave that's coming in now.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: And so Matsui and Meyvang will make the top two.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Matsui went all out to try to keep Meyvang out
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: of the general because she I believe that her team
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: is convinced that Meyvang will beat her in the general.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: That there's a lot of incumbent resentment there. Also, the
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: local papers have been turning on Matsui.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: They did good.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: It shows the value of good journalism, like they exposed
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: that it was Matsui and her backers that were boosting
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: this Republican college kid.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Very interesting and so that matters.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: And a lot of congressional districts that media infrastructure just
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: doesn't exist anymore. This is a Sacramento and there's a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: Sacramento be and other outlets.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: And then, yeah.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: Jimmy Gomez another kind of corporate a pack backed incumbent.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: They APAC bailed him out big time in a previous
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: and I think it was a twenty twenty four race.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Justice Democrats ran Angela Gonzalez.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Torrez against him, and she's losing by twenty but it's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: enough that she's going to make the general election, right,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: So we'll get back in November. Actually it'll be December
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: by the time we know.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: California is November.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Gomez is under the he's under the fifty
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: percent mark as of now with sixty percent of the votes,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: and so if he crosses that threshold, good for him.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: If not, there'll be the two of them.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: Well even in the House, right, you don't even in
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: the House. If if you win fish, yes, that's right,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: then you still have to go to But either way
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: there's race that you get. He went out, right, that's right.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but either he doesn't have over the fifty percent threshold,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: meaning that there's room for Gonzales Torres to make up.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: Hold be a tough coalition because you would need we
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: would need Republicans who don't like Gomez, they won't vote
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: or right, if there's top two, if the top two
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: in the governor's race are Democrats, then yes, the Republican
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: turnout is going to be low, which will be very good.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: By the way, as we were talking about yesterday for
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: the billionaire tax. So if you can get two Democrats
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: in the governor's race keep the Republicans on the couch,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: then the billionaire tax has more chance of going through.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Man some interesting stuff. We'll keep our eye on all
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: of these races going forward.