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#197 - Dvsn · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Bulet Cap show special guests in the building. We have
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Speaker 1: division ladies and general Well, first of all, I want
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Speaker 1: to say on behalf of men all over the place
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Speaker 1: that aren't to me because I can't relate to this
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Speaker 1: particular record, and while you're speaking on the behalf, because
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Speaker 1: I have friends who relate strongly to this record strong
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Speaker 1: This record is very, very appreciated by the male demographic
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Speaker 1: in the world. Is this something that you guys, I mean,
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Speaker 1: obviously personal experience you went through and you're like, yo,
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Speaker 1: this is how come we don't have one of these? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean tell us how much of a
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Speaker 1: piece of shit you are? Honestly, the record is not
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Speaker 1: It's not what you guys are taking it as first
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Speaker 1: and foremost. Well, I mean, the hook is very factual.
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Speaker 1: Though everything in the record is fact What I'm saying, like,
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Speaker 1: I just I mean, I don't love you, right, because
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Speaker 1: when you break it down, cheating is not about that.
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Speaker 1: For a lot of people when they're cheating, it's men specifically,
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Speaker 1: A lot of men specifically to it, right, correct. But
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Speaker 1: we've heard from women too, and there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: girls that are like yo, I I kind of just
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Speaker 1: wanted to go out there and fuck, or I got
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Speaker 1: you know, I got caught up in this situation. Or
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Speaker 1: I felt low about myself. I wanted to feel sexy again,
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Speaker 1: and this person over here made me feel that way.
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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't stop loving my person the moment
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Speaker 1: the moment I was finished, I felt like, fuck, what
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Speaker 1: did I just? Do? You know that that feeling? So
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Speaker 1: I've I've been on. I think we've both been on,
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Speaker 1: probably both sides of that that fence. What do you
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Speaker 1: guys have cheated and been cheated on? I think I've
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Speaker 1: been cheated on. I'm not. I don't have the you
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Speaker 1: don't know for sure, then you don't know. See, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but it looks, it looks, it looks suspect. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I had a god awful, terrible dumpster fire of a
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Speaker 1: human being as a baby mother. So shout out to hers.
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Speaker 1: She's a fucking terrible person. She's somewhere probably doing heroin
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Speaker 1: right now. I don't know I have that, bitch. I
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Speaker 1: have my son. This only matters anyway. Uh So, yeah,
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Speaker 1: So like, who was this your idea? Okay, so let
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Speaker 1: me wreak it down. We have been working on this
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Speaker 1: album with Jermain dupri real closely. Darn b god, there
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Speaker 1: your salute? What up? Ja d We walked into the
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Speaker 1: studio and he's literally opens the door singing that chorus
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Speaker 1: opens and I mean, I don't love you. And I
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Speaker 1: was like what And I was like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I want to say in life. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, I've never heard somebody just say it was.
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Speaker 1: So it's put so simply, but it's a it's a
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Speaker 1: deep thought. And so we walk in. Brian Michael Cox
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Speaker 1: is already messing around with legendary Yeah, yeah, already just
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Speaker 1: you know, he's going at it. Nineteen has the idea
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Speaker 1: to be like, yo, what if we flip some of
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Speaker 1: our old ideas where we used to put like girl
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Speaker 1: choirs on stuff and make it men a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of guys this time. So that way it can you know,
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Speaker 1: help express that this isn't This is a thought that
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Speaker 1: seemed that feels universal, right, A lot of people can
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Speaker 1: relate to this. So I thought that was genius, and
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Speaker 1: I sat down and I wrote this. These verses. Now,
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Speaker 1: these verses have been highly taken out of perspective. I
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Speaker 1: think on people's first maybe second a little misunderstanding about
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Speaker 1: the meeting. Yes, yeah, So I'm writing about a guy
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Speaker 1: that's in a relationship where his partner starts to feel
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Speaker 1: like maybe they're cheating on them. And I'm writing this
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Speaker 1: from the perspective of someone who's like, yo, everything you,
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Speaker 1: everything that attracted you to me, is now turned into
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Speaker 1: your insecurities. Right. That happens a lot, happens a lot
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Speaker 1: guys and girls. Right. So it's like you you liked
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Speaker 1: me for who I was, for being fly, for being
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Speaker 1: a good looking dude, for being and you know, funny, cool, whatever,
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Speaker 1: all these things. But now because as soon as I
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Speaker 1: leave the crib, yeah, exactly exactly, you're going, where are
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Speaker 1: you going? You know all you're going over there. Oh
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Speaker 1: you're gonna ah, You're gonna be talking and all these
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Speaker 1: these holes faces. You gotta be the life of the party.
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Speaker 1: It's like, you met me this way, you liked me
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Speaker 1: because of these things. You always liked being around my energy,
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Speaker 1: all these things like that, and now it's turn into this.
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Speaker 1: Now you're digging through phones and you know, checking Instagram
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Speaker 1: followers and all that stuff like that. So that's the
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Speaker 1: perspective that I'm writing about it. So people hear me
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Speaker 1: say I'm a fly nigga when you got here, charismatic
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Speaker 1: when you got here, and they're thinking, oh, he's telling
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Speaker 1: the girls like he was fly. You should have already
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Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be fucking these holes or something. But
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Speaker 1: it's like, that's not what I was saying. I was
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Speaker 1: saying I was these things. And now, well, that's also
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Speaker 1: a very important thing to convey because a lot of
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Speaker 1: people feel that way. What that I was flying already
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Speaker 1: the hose. No, that when you get into a relationship,
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Speaker 1: like you said, it always happens, whether it's the guy
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Speaker 1: or the girl. When you think about it, a lot
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Speaker 1: of dudes will meet to chicken the club, who's fucking beautiful,
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Speaker 1: fucking ass out whatever, and it's like, well, that's how
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Speaker 1: you met this girl, that's what attracted you to her.
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Speaker 1: Now that you cuffed her, like, you can't get mad,
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Speaker 1: she's going out with her homegirls exactly. So that's that's
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Speaker 1: the perspective I wrote the verses from. And then I
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Speaker 1: was like, it gets into the idea of Okay, so
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Speaker 1: now you're now you're doing the dig into the phone shit.
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Speaker 1: Are you trying to find a problem or are you
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Speaker 1: trying to find an actual reason to leave, and then
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Speaker 1: comes the because, and why would why would you want
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Speaker 1: to leave? When even if hypothetically I was to cheat
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Speaker 1: on you, it wouldn't be because all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: I just lost my feelings for you and I don't
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Speaker 1: love you anymore. It would be probably because I just
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Speaker 1: did something super selfish, super self indulgent, super you know,
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Speaker 1: me being addiction, asshole, short sighted, you know, stroking my ego,
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Speaker 1: all these other things. And I think that's the miss
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Speaker 1: a big misconception with people about why people cheat, and
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Speaker 1: that's why we wanted to bring it to the table.
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Speaker 1: It's usually not about the other person, especially with guys.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you hear women say you know that, you
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Speaker 1: know that they only did it because there's a lack
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Speaker 1: of something or a void or emotional disconnect whatever, and
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Speaker 1: we're getting something in their relationship they want to go
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Speaker 1: find it. But guys, especially a lot of guys, I
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Speaker 1: know girls too, but a lot of guys commonly we
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Speaker 1: can hear that, yo, they have the girl they want
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Speaker 1: right there. This is just literally had nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with them. I mean, if you think about, like all
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Speaker 1: of the halle Berry has been cheated on, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like girls say that, he goes like,
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Speaker 1: how do you cheat on this person? And every guy
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Speaker 1: gets it. Honestly, I think we're guys. The more you
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Speaker 1: have that you actually wanted, the less you feel inclined
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Speaker 1: to stay because we're used to chasing, so we're used
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Speaker 1: to looking for the other things. So if you actually
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Speaker 1: have everything at home, I feel like there's a twisted
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Speaker 1: thing that happens and guys where they start being like
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Speaker 1: something's missing, like I missed the chair, me I'm not
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Speaker 1: doing what my what I feel like my nature just
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Speaker 1: pushes me do or the rape or you know, and
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Speaker 1: mind you it's it's not something that we can't control.
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Speaker 1: It's something that we can't just say no to. But
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Speaker 1: it's something that a lot of people fall into, right
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that when they do. It's talked
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Speaker 1: about enough that a lot of times it's not because
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Speaker 1: they just don't love you anymore. It's because of some
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Speaker 1: other issues that they probably got to work out. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they maybe they need to feel more desired, Maybe their
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Speaker 1: self esteems a little lower and the cell they boost
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Speaker 1: it this is an ego thing. Maybe this is maybe
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Speaker 1: they haven't. I don't know whatever. It is, just you know,
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Speaker 1: addiction to the chase, like you're saying so, and women
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Speaker 1: at times have an addiction to chasing down your phone
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Speaker 1: and trying to just find something to fight about even
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Speaker 1: if you're not cheating, right, and so that is really
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Speaker 1: I like that. I like when you know, use what's
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Speaker 1: going on here to shoot out there. Yeah, but nah,
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Speaker 1: I really feel like I really feel like that's the
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Speaker 1: conversation that we wanted to put on the table and
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Speaker 1: know that we wanted people to let's talk about it, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because no one wants to talk about it. Everyone wants
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Speaker 1: to act so like it's so taboo. And I think
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Speaker 1: that that's what made the record really go, and it's
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Speaker 1: making the record really go, is the fact that it's
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Speaker 1: so real and it's like Hella underserved niche of that.
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Speaker 1: Like in R and B, you know what I'm saying, Like,
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Speaker 1: I feel like we don't have like an anthem like
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Speaker 1: that there's never been and men enjoy R and B.
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Speaker 1: I love R and B. And you know, I feel
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Speaker 1: like there's so much scorned woman music. Yeah, there's not
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Speaker 1: many songs that I feel like speak to this demographic
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Speaker 1: that's embraced it so well, just like every man in
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Speaker 1: the world except me obviously. Yeah. So the Jermaine Depris thing.
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Speaker 1: Obviously JD one of the greatest producers of all time,
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Speaker 1: but specifically when it comes to the R and B shit,
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Speaker 1: he's I mean, I don't know, man, he might be
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Speaker 1: the goat, you know. I mean you think of confessions
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Speaker 1: and shit, JD's that motherfucker. What was the initial like, uh,
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Speaker 1: link up with JD and like having him handle a
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Speaker 1: lot of the reins on the project. It wasn't supposed
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Speaker 1: to be that. On first meet up, we're really just
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Speaker 1: meeting our management team, just set up, you know, me
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Speaker 1: going through to go say what up to him? Right me,
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Speaker 1: Jermain Duprie, And you know, fast forward two three days
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Speaker 1: and it's like, yo, we're together every day, right and
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Speaker 1: we talk every day. You know. The relationships turned from
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Speaker 1: hero to you know, big bro shit. Yeah. You know, like,
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a day that goes by we're
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Speaker 1: not calling or texting about whatever it is. You know,
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Speaker 1: at this point, what is something that you guys learned
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Speaker 1: creatively from j D? Because you know, when you're like
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Speaker 1: that prolific, I feel like I'm sure a lot of
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Speaker 1: the stuff he does just seems like effortlessly, but at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you could probably grab from Oh.
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Speaker 1: I think it is that though everything he does seems
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Speaker 1: so effortless that when we're with him, he's always he's
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Speaker 1: telling us we're thinking too hard. You'd be the first
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Speaker 1: to be like, bro, you're thinking about this way too hard.
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Speaker 1: If you haven't got it by now, either move on
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Speaker 1: or it's that thing right there. So that's his like
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Speaker 1: hit formula. He can tell you in like ten seconds, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's going to go that that's not the one. It's
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Speaker 1: the craziest thing with him, and it really shows in
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Speaker 1: this record because what I like to say that I
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Speaker 1: think he's great at is is real genius. And what
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Speaker 1: I mean by that is there's a level of genius
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Speaker 1: that I think that is for intellectual people to catch,
10:35
Speaker 1: but I think there's another higher tier where even if
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Speaker 1: you're not smart, you still recognize the genius right, And
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Speaker 1: he's a way that finds a way of making everything
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Speaker 1: genius so simple, well, like a kid to get it right. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. He's his records supposed to
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Speaker 1: be palatable to everybody they should be right exactly so,
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Speaker 1: and I think that we've always I think that's something
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Speaker 1: that we really have always used some of that because
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes we've made like almost higher intellectual R
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Speaker 1: and B. Even in this it's just like we gotta
11:07
Speaker 1: we gotta think, oh, we really listen to intelligence sometimes
11:10
Speaker 1: the music from from our perspective. And I think he
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Speaker 1: was very clear with us about like, Yo, whatever you
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Speaker 1: guys have been doing is beautiful music, but let's make
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Speaker 1: things that kind of go across the board. Like people
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Speaker 1: need to understand it on the most basic level. They
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Speaker 1: don't need to be able to they don't have to
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Speaker 1: like break it down to be like, well, this this
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Speaker 1: and this happened. That's why tied into this line over here.
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Speaker 1: You know it sometimes if someone just can just stop
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Speaker 1: you and just be like, yo, exactly what you said there,
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Speaker 1: Just leave it like that. He's great at that and
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Speaker 1: not overthinking it exactly. And he's like, Yo, for the
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Speaker 1: spot in R and B that you want to go
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Speaker 1: take and that I can see that you you have
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Speaker 1: what it takes to go take that. This is the
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Speaker 1: way to go. It's like no different than like you know,
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Speaker 1: like I don't know Kendrick Lamar and like Section eighty,
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Speaker 1: which is fucking one of my favorite Kendric projects. Right,
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Speaker 1: But then on Good Kymad City, he like puts some
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Speaker 1: like hit, he puts some thought into, like you know,
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Speaker 1: some hits. I guess he took it. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: he took away further for sure, like to pimp a Butterfly.
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Speaker 1: He said, fuck it, I'm doing me. Damn, he got
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Speaker 1: to it, you know what. I'm sure, by the way,
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Speaker 1: that's my Butterfly is my favorite Countrick album for the record, Yes,
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Speaker 1: but uh yeah, how do you guys like the new
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Speaker 1: Kendrick album. I think it's such a like beautiful piece
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Speaker 1: of art that I only feel like he can play
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Speaker 1: it in specific moments, Like I don't feel like he
12:31
Speaker 1: can played it at all times. I have to like
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Speaker 1: be ready to just like you know, I felt like
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Speaker 1: that for about a week and now it's like it
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Speaker 1: just Rich Spirit. I just like can throw that ship
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Speaker 1: on work out, like definitely Rich Savior. There's some ship
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Speaker 1: on there. There's some ship. I feel like when it
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Speaker 1: first came out, I was kind of like, damn, what
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Speaker 1: do I like? Bang though, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: But now I'm like going back. I listen to that
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Speaker 1: ship a lot. I listen that shit when I work out.
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Speaker 1: That's why if I could, if I could work out
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Speaker 1: to your ship, I feel like I could hear on
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Speaker 1: like on the radio or like hear it in the car.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I feel like you
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Speaker 1: gotta say it's I feel like, more than most albums
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Speaker 1: in the last four or five years, you gotta really
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Speaker 1: like and you get I feel like it gets better
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Speaker 1: every time you listen to it. I'm sure as yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean so, you guys also, did was it last
13:18
Speaker 1: year you did the Tied ALTI side project? Last year
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Speaker 1: we did a mix tape with Tie. Shout out to
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Speaker 1: Tie one of the greats. You guys have two albums
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Speaker 1: out correct, and we just dropped our third up before that,
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Speaker 1: before the Tie Ship. I always feel like with the
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Speaker 1: OVO thing, right, It's like, do you ever feel like
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Speaker 1: that there's like a gift in a curse of being
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Speaker 1: with Ovo because at the end of the day, Drake
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Speaker 1: is the biggest artist in the world. He's one of
13:44
Speaker 1: the most talented artists in the world, and I feel
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Speaker 1: like I appreciate his ear for who he signs to
13:52
Speaker 1: the label because there's always like high I mean, I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say always, but for the most part high artistic integrity.
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Speaker 1: When I think of like Majia Jordan and you guys,
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Speaker 1: I feel like he also is allowing people to develop,
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Speaker 1: Like artist development is like a real thing at OVO,
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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. But at the same time, that
14:12
Speaker 1: takes time. And when you're signed to Drake, people probably
14:15
Speaker 1: expect you to just come out swinging with like, you know,
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Speaker 1: fucking hit records and Drake features and all this shit.
14:21
Speaker 1: You know, people look at his what he does for
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Speaker 1: features and what he does for the label as two
14:29
Speaker 1: separate things, and they expect the same things. I think
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Speaker 1: it's different. I think him jumping on a record versus
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Speaker 1: him signing you, his mental approach to that is just
14:37
Speaker 1: completely different. I think like he might find a record
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Speaker 1: and be cool, I'm gonna just hop on this wave,
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Speaker 1: come on, come on there, drop this, drop this, elevate
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Speaker 1: this record, and they call it the Drake Stimmy package. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the stimmy right. Yes. Whereas I think with artists that
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Speaker 1: he's involved with, you know, the business of signing, I
14:54
Speaker 1: think that he likes to be like this person's dope,
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Speaker 1: give them, give them what they need. This person's dope,
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Speaker 1: you know, give them what they need, versus the approach
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Speaker 1: that he takes when it's just like I'm jumping on
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Speaker 1: a run, right, I just feel like it's like dope
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Speaker 1: because you'll see like artist development happening at Ouvio, Like
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not always like
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Speaker 1: the cheat code is like let me just get on
15:17
Speaker 1: a song knowing what that's going to do. That's also
15:20
Speaker 1: the easiest way for people to fail. I mean, if
15:23
Speaker 1: you take an artist that's not in the drake position,
15:29
Speaker 1: you give them the drake and then and insert name
15:36
Speaker 1: here who's no longer relevant exactly, you know. And that's
15:40
Speaker 1: why we've always been really appreciative of the way that
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Speaker 1: he's embraced things and let us kind of develop on
15:48
Speaker 1: our own path figure that out. And the same time,
15:52
Speaker 1: like we still can go back and forth with records
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Speaker 1: or ideas, and that's how we ended up on the
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Speaker 1: Views album. More. That's how he's had songs that he's
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Speaker 1: written and he'll throw to us and be like, yo,
16:03
Speaker 1: what do you think of this record? You want to
16:04
Speaker 1: do something with it? Or you know, and there's always
16:07
Speaker 1: been that freedom, but there's never the pressure to feel like,
16:09
Speaker 1: you guys don't have to do the Drake way of
16:12
Speaker 1: doing so, you don't have to do it the way
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Speaker 1: the traditional like label process would be. Not only that,
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Speaker 1: but I think it helps every artist on the label
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Speaker 1: kind of own own their brand, right. That's smart, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because I think that division like we have our we
16:32
Speaker 1: definitely have our own brand and your own following, following
16:36
Speaker 1: our fans. It's independent of everything, independent of anything. So
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Speaker 1: I love that we've been able to to have the
16:44
Speaker 1: space to do that and to be you know, successful
16:47
Speaker 1: in doing that. What was his reaction when you heard
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Speaker 1: this record? We haven't. We haven't talked to anybody since
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Speaker 1: we dropped Jesus bro. We literally in the tunnels just
16:56
Speaker 1: trying to get this album done so justice over there
16:59
Speaker 1: is and kill us. But we literally haven't talked to
17:03
Speaker 1: anybody sent you know, we don't. We literally locked in
17:06
Speaker 1: the studio, cooked up and popped our head out to
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Speaker 1: drop this and even this record. Why we popped our
17:13
Speaker 1: head up to drop this is because we've been inviting
17:15
Speaker 1: people to the studio just to you know, hear things,
17:19
Speaker 1: and every time we played that record, the whole room
17:23
Speaker 1: burst into argument for like half an hour an hour time,
17:26
Speaker 1: so we're like, Yo, what is happening? And every guy
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Speaker 1: felt like liberated. Some women are like, yeah, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I get that. You know it's honest. Some girls like, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's a bop. Some girls are like, man, I'm triggered.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm mad, you know, And we're just like, Yo,
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Speaker 1: what is happening. This has never happened with a song
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Speaker 1: like this, and so because of that, we just we
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Speaker 1: got to get this thing out. This is also the
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Speaker 1: first album that we've done outside of Toronto. You guys
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Speaker 1: do were you guys doing in Atlanta? It's amazing. Whose
17:57
Speaker 1: idea was? It was your idea? JD's idea to sample
17:59
Speaker 1: Jay to the jay z is both of us, because
18:01
Speaker 1: me and JD were joking about how ridiculous that line.
18:07
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, that's a crazy line. What if we
18:09
Speaker 1: use it? And then I was like, I don't really
18:10
Speaker 1: think I can do that. He's like, Wow, I don't
18:12
Speaker 1: think we're to get that cleared. He's like, I'll handle
18:14
Speaker 1: the clear and stuff. You just sample however, you see,
18:17
Speaker 1: like how you see that fitting in the record, And
18:19
Speaker 1: I'll do the rest and he did he took care
18:21
Speaker 1: of Hope cleared it. Hope cleared it. I mean, and
18:25
Speaker 1: it's it's it's cool because I saw I actually saw
18:27
Speaker 1: the like I think the chext conversation or whatever that
18:31
Speaker 1: that came out about Whole Clear, and I didn't hear
18:33
Speaker 1: the record yet, So when I heard it, I was like, oh, ship,
18:36
Speaker 1: they use that and it's perfect for the for the song. Yeah,
18:42
Speaker 1: it works. It was message because again to say something
18:45
Speaker 1: like that, you know again you're you're in your full
18:48
Speaker 1: ego at that moment to be able to tell somebody
18:50
Speaker 1: like it was just I was just doing that, like
18:53
Speaker 1: I was coming right back and thinking that that's what percentage.
18:57
Speaker 1: Are we done with the album or is it done
18:59
Speaker 1: or is it like you guys get on the album.
19:05
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to wait and see on
19:08
Speaker 1: the remix at least yeo. I said you're gonna have
19:11
Speaker 1: to wait and see. It feels like yeah, yeah you
19:16
Speaker 1: said yeah, because the usher it feels like it's a
19:18
Speaker 1: nice connection there. M hmm yeah yeah, what about the
19:23
Speaker 1: Brat I'm just kidding that would be random as you
19:27
Speaker 1: just have like the SOSO based All Stars like on
19:30
Speaker 1: like the last song. You know what I mean, record
19:32
Speaker 1: seen like bone Crusher a little Bow. Wow, she no,
19:38
Speaker 1: she's just like this record is so fire. Bra Functified
19:43
Speaker 1: was incredible shoutouts. Yeah, so first album outside of Toronto, right,
19:49
Speaker 1: or just Canada in general? What part are you? Guys?
19:51
Speaker 1: Both from Toronto? From Toronto? I keep hearing about Toronto.
19:54
Speaker 1: I hear it's amazing, man, you to come. I heard.
19:56
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I heard it's a vibe. Yeah. Everybody
20:00
Speaker 1: I know from you guys are just the nicest people.
20:03
Speaker 1: Canadians are just so sweet. Man. I don't know one
20:06
Speaker 1: dickhead is a Canadian. Now, you guys probably do because
20:08
Speaker 1: you're from there. All the Canadians I come into context
20:11
Speaker 1: seem to be sweet guys. Yeah, what is it? Why
20:14
Speaker 1: is that? I don't think that's accurate? Well, why is it?
20:19
Speaker 1: I just feel like, is it because there's like fucking
20:21
Speaker 1: you know, uh, free healthcare, less distress about less aggressive
20:26
Speaker 1: people in general? Yeah? I think that you guys call
20:29
Speaker 1: ham Canadian bacon. There's no Canadian bacon is a certain type,
20:35
Speaker 1: not a Papa John's. You get that Papa John's. You say, hey,
20:38
Speaker 1: we got Canadian bacon, and it comes in, it's hawn.
20:40
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people. I gotta say this
20:41
Speaker 1: because Church Toronto people will see this. I know a
20:43
Speaker 1: lot of Toronto people that feel the complete opposite about
20:48
Speaker 1: Toronto versus States, Like everyone from the US is nice,
20:52
Speaker 1: super nice. Really, have you ever been to like, I
20:55
Speaker 1: don't know, fucking Tennessee or Mississippi or something. I'm saying,
20:58
Speaker 1: maybe I haven't been even places at Atlanta, Houston, go
21:03
Speaker 1: to the middle of America, Yeah, that's different. So but
21:06
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the places that I go, the the people
21:11
Speaker 1: that I meet as far as especially in comparison to
21:13
Speaker 1: the black community in Toronto's way more love especially in
21:17
Speaker 1: the South and stuff like that amongst them versus than
21:20
Speaker 1: it is in Toronto. And I think it's the Southern hospitality.
21:25
Speaker 1: I think it's also to get all deep, but I
21:28
Speaker 1: think no, really, I know it's not to get all
21:29
Speaker 1: deep Jesus, But I think it's that. I think it's
21:31
Speaker 1: the fact that I think it's the fact that people
21:34
Speaker 1: have always there's always been like and just the racism
21:37
Speaker 1: idea of it all has kind of made black people
21:40
Speaker 1: kind of feel to other black people like, oh, you're
21:42
Speaker 1: one of us, you know, And in Toronto. It's a
21:45
Speaker 1: lot of the island culture, like Jamaican and Island culture
21:48
Speaker 1: kind of runs that and Island people are just you know,
21:52
Speaker 1: they have their own attitude about them at all times.
21:54
Speaker 1: That kind of that's kind of what they are. Like, Okay,
21:58
Speaker 1: when you get there, I won't even make a comment.
22:01
Speaker 1: Then everybody's nice. Yeah, the world's nice. How do you
22:06
Speaker 1: feel about you guys? Have Justin Trudeau running your country
22:10
Speaker 1: and I know that, like there's like a crazy like
22:14
Speaker 1: I know, people fucked with him, and then COVID happened
22:16
Speaker 1: and it seems like he's How do y'all feel about
22:18
Speaker 1: this guy? I think COVID made everything different, you know,
22:23
Speaker 1: I won't say better or worse. I think it made
22:26
Speaker 1: things different. And this was one of the few times
22:29
Speaker 1: that the world looked at Canada as not being like
22:34
Speaker 1: one of the leaders as far as the way things
22:38
Speaker 1: were handled right, you know, I think people always look
22:40
Speaker 1: to Canadians like, oh, the way they do it up
22:42
Speaker 1: there is they got you know, they got they get
22:44
Speaker 1: the healthcare. Yeah, this was one of the five times
22:47
Speaker 1: where it seems like we weren't necessarily the front runner
22:51
Speaker 1: as far as how certain things were handled. Even right now,
22:54
Speaker 1: the airports are crazy, and you know, there shouldn't be
22:58
Speaker 1: that much of a difference between even us in the
23:01
Speaker 1: States as far as how we've kind of transitioned out
23:07
Speaker 1: of you know, if we have transitioned out, I think
23:10
Speaker 1: we're coming right back into it. I mean, you guys
23:12
Speaker 1: have been in Atlanta. You guys know it don't exist there.
23:15
Speaker 1: What how many how many meals if you guys shared
23:18
Speaker 1: at a strip club in the last twelve months in
23:19
Speaker 1: Atlanta at least one, right, at least Yeah, Blue Flame
23:25
Speaker 1: got great Wings. That's one of the strip clubes I
23:28
Speaker 1: actually still haven't gone to yet. There's like, there's a
23:30
Speaker 1: strip club there that plays terrible music. It's like Nickelback
23:34
Speaker 1: and know exactly what you're talking about, lamb Chops. I
23:37
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about. It's actually right out
23:39
Speaker 1: the side. It's on the south side. It's like, yeah,
23:41
Speaker 1: they got great lamb chops. No, he's not talking about
23:44
Speaker 1: you though, he's not talking about that's right. No, they
23:47
Speaker 1: got the lamb chops. She's just definitely playing Nickelback. It's
23:49
Speaker 1: the the other one up up the street from No, no,
23:53
Speaker 1: no, no no, he's it's Cheata it's cheatah. Yeah, no, no no, no,
23:56
Speaker 1: the Lamb Chees isn't playing nickel Back anymore. I've been
24:00
Speaker 1: there three times in the last when I went there,
24:02
Speaker 1: they were playing some fucking nickelback when I went when
24:04
Speaker 1: I went to cheating there by the way, play nickelback Canadian?
24:08
Speaker 1: When's that happening? Boys? When we're gonna do the little
24:10
Speaker 1: fucking collapse? Are they still out? Man? That's a big
24:15
Speaker 1: is that? Y'all ship people? But I was like, I
24:20
Speaker 1: think about kind of secretly of a couple of bands.
24:23
Speaker 1: They got a few Spider Man, the Spider Man soundtrack,
24:26
Speaker 1: I liked Hero Hero track. I liked. Yeah, their music
24:29
Speaker 1: is better than Creed's. I'll tell you that is it.
24:32
Speaker 1: I thought that I thought people. I thought music was atrocious. People.
24:37
Speaker 1: People always ship on Nickelback like they're the they're the
24:42
Speaker 1: lesser Creed is what I always talk to people thought.
24:45
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to figure out a word that you're
24:46
Speaker 1: getting be canceled that they're the something is banned in
24:49
Speaker 1: the world, right, but they're not. But what what's the something?
24:53
Speaker 1: Will come on? Just give it? What's the word? Man?
24:54
Speaker 1: Something is? You know what? No, I don't in the world.
24:58
Speaker 1: Ah wow, we're just gonna bleep that out. It's it's
25:06
Speaker 1: almost like it's like it's like Nickelback is like the
25:11
Speaker 1: but all these bands aren't They just kind of like
25:13
Speaker 1: the flow right of like Rockberry right, poppy, it's poppy, right, yeah,
25:18
Speaker 1: but like Lincoln Park was poppy, you know, like I
25:22
Speaker 1: guess but not but I like Lincoln Park, Creeds from
25:25
Speaker 1: Canada or not Creed uh, nickel Backs from Canada? So
25:27
Speaker 1: those you're those y'all. You know, y'all got to stick together. Man,
25:30
Speaker 1: it'd be kind of crazy if y'all did a record
25:32
Speaker 1: with Creed, it might sound terrible. Creed, I keep saying
25:35
Speaker 1: Creed Nickelback, Right, I'm confusing my Caucasians. I'm confusing my
25:39
Speaker 1: shitty rock bands. Guys, jesus here we are. So do
25:45
Speaker 1: we have any idea of the project? Will be dropping
25:47
Speaker 1: in the next couple of months and then so soon? Yeah? Nice?
25:50
Speaker 1: How fun was the little photo shoot y'all with the
25:53
Speaker 1: with the you know you're for the single? That wasn't
25:57
Speaker 1: We had to do that a couple of times, just
26:00
Speaker 1: could look that way, But no, it's dope. The models
26:04
Speaker 1: all all got into character. Nice character for it. I
26:12
Speaker 1: put on a silk shirt if you wear those like normally, Yeah, uncomfortable,
26:18
Speaker 1: silk uncomfortable, like if it's hot. I'm from Arizona, so
26:21
Speaker 1: this doesn't like sticks the breathiest. I don't know. I've
26:24
Speaker 1: never worn when you're shaped like me, I'm shaped like
26:26
Speaker 1: a bag of potatoes. I can't wear a fucking silk shirt.
26:28
Speaker 1: You said you're in the gym. Now you listen, I am,
26:30
Speaker 1: I've been working out. I have been working out, but
26:32
Speaker 1: I still I still, I still still got What do
26:36
Speaker 1: I look like in his silk shirt? Broom a boat,
26:41
Speaker 1: Get a pair of shorts, some fresh white Air Force shorts.
26:46
Speaker 1: All the time, everyone says, Okay, Scott's sorches little brother.
26:52
Speaker 1: The thing? Did you say that on purpose? That Scott's
26:56
Speaker 1: a great guy? Have you met Scott Storch one time?
27:01
Speaker 1: My great guy, change, great guy, great guy, very talented.
27:06
Speaker 1: He's like I would say, he's where would you guys
27:08
Speaker 1: put him all time? Top fifteen who got storage as
27:12
Speaker 1: a producer? Yeah? Top fifteen? Rap? You sing rap? Or
27:16
Speaker 1: are you saying I'm saying rap? Ye? Because if you
27:18
Speaker 1: go all rob what because of how high dre is
27:22
Speaker 1: going to be? And people don't realize how much he's
27:25
Speaker 1: especially JWO thousand and one. Yeah, then I think you
27:28
Speaker 1: gotta put him not I think he could get top fifteen. Yeah,
27:32
Speaker 1: not faring, So I don't think that. I think people
27:34
Speaker 1: just forget how much he did. Yeah, who's your who's your? Like?
27:37
Speaker 1: Top five producers hip hop all time? Wow, top five Yay, Timberland, Neptunes, Primo.
27:54
Speaker 1: Just there's too many Just Blaze, just Blazes, So you
27:59
Speaker 1: don't have Drey in there, and you don't have Jermaine
28:01
Speaker 1: to prea give him right, he's just doing your whole
28:03
Speaker 1: album too many? Yeah, because Jermaine, it's like so much
28:08
Speaker 1: bigger than just hip hop. I agree. I agree. So
28:10
Speaker 1: it's timblind, but I actually feel like I actually feel
28:12
Speaker 1: like Timberland if you think about the Range. I don't
28:16
Speaker 1: know if anyone's fucking with Timberland now. My personal favorite
28:18
Speaker 1: ever is just Blaze, Like he's my personal favorite. I
28:21
Speaker 1: know he's not the best, but he's my personal number one.
28:23
Speaker 1: But Timberland to me is like the Range if you
28:26
Speaker 1: think about justin, Timberlake was my favorite, was my favorite producer,
28:32
Speaker 1: and I actually just met him for the first time
28:33
Speaker 1: maybe like three weeks ago, there was like a bubb
28:37
Speaker 1: A Sparks album called Deliverance that it's crazy. No one
28:42
Speaker 1: talks about that album. I'm like, y'all understand this motherfucker
28:45
Speaker 1: did a whole country rap album that was like flawless.
28:48
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that album. Deliverance is crazy, don't listen
28:50
Speaker 1: to The first album is like the mom but Ugly,
28:52
Speaker 1: which is a great record, But the second one is
28:54
Speaker 1: the one we sampling all kinds of like folk, country
28:57
Speaker 1: and ship. Yeah. Timberland's that guy man. So we're getting
29:00
Speaker 1: album in the next couple of months. Yeah, videos dope.
29:04
Speaker 1: I saw that Joe Biden was a little critical of
29:06
Speaker 1: this record. He's a fan of you guys obviously, But
29:09
Speaker 1: was that just coming with having Mal in the video?
29:11
Speaker 1: I mean, I think definitely mall played a part in that.
29:15
Speaker 1: I think we knew once Mal was in the video.
29:17
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy because I wasn't thinking about it
29:21
Speaker 1: at all, and then I it hit me. I was like, oh,
29:23
Speaker 1: you know what, Joe, my Je's gonna probably have something
29:26
Speaker 1: to say because he said, you guys talk right, you know,
29:29
Speaker 1: we DM and hearing he's an R and B fan,
29:31
Speaker 1: Like he talks about R and B a lot. Yeah,
29:32
Speaker 1: he you know, he's he's good for saying a lot
29:36
Speaker 1: of real things, but he's also good for just kind
29:40
Speaker 1: of just saying things sometimes. So it is what it is,
29:43
Speaker 1: you know, he's he I think he said we dropped
29:45
Speaker 1: an album in twenty sixteen, then another one in twenty nineteen,
29:49
Speaker 1: and so we don't drop enough for him. And I
29:51
Speaker 1: was like, that is not our album. That's not accurate
29:55
Speaker 1: at all. But shout out to Joe. You know, whatever,
29:57
Speaker 1: it is, what it is. She just can't. He's just
29:59
Speaker 1: not the division wikipedia he thinks he is. And sometimes
30:02
Speaker 1: he's just wrong on records. Wrong. Great, this one's already
30:06
Speaker 1: proven that he's went out, and you know, he said
30:08
Speaker 1: what he said, and then you know, I think the same.
30:12
Speaker 1: Maybe like a few days later, we heard the most
30:14
Speaker 1: number one added song to urban radio. You know, so
30:18
Speaker 1: you're wrong. I think it's like I think I watched
30:22
Speaker 1: that clip and I think I think he's probably Like
30:27
Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you're like a really big
30:29
Speaker 1: fan of like an underground rapper, right, and then they
30:32
Speaker 1: put out like a song with Drake or some crazy
30:36
Speaker 1: and you're just like you didn't have to, you know,
30:39
Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like that that was more
30:40
Speaker 1: his perspective. I don't agree with it because I love
30:42
Speaker 1: this fucking song. I think the song is great, But
30:43
Speaker 1: I think that, like I feel like, you know, everybody
30:46
Speaker 1: who most fans who are with you from the beginning
30:50
Speaker 1: when you have that first real big splash, and they're
30:53
Speaker 1: kind of like, hmm, you know what I mean. So
30:55
Speaker 1: maybe he was just speaking from that perspective. Maybe, you know.
30:57
Speaker 1: And one thing about this song that I have noticed,
31:00
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, a critic or just like a
31:04
Speaker 1: casual listener, a fan, even is it's it sticks with
31:10
Speaker 1: you in a way that's different. So I think that
31:12
Speaker 1: even if on first listen you don't want to like it,
31:15
Speaker 1: on second listen you realize that you kind of do
31:18
Speaker 1: what you might not want to say. Even if you
31:19
Speaker 1: don't like it, it's going to be in your you
31:21
Speaker 1: can't get it out of you. So it's just it's
31:23
Speaker 1: just that kind of song, which is cool. Would you
31:25
Speaker 1: guys do a remix to this record if the if
31:28
Speaker 1: the right idea came to mind, for sure, why not?
31:31
Speaker 1: I feel like when the record gets this big, it's
31:33
Speaker 1: like people are going to remix it themselves. Yeah, you'd
31:37
Speaker 1: almost rather yeah, have like control the recontrol. Yeah. We've
31:42
Speaker 1: seen some girls start to make their clap backs, which
31:45
Speaker 1: I think is crazy. I think it's I haven't seen
31:46
Speaker 1: any of these any good ones to Baby Tait, Baby Tait,
31:51
Speaker 1: who's label mate? Yeah, okay, so no, she her, HER's
31:58
Speaker 1: the fire. But you know, a bag of girls have
32:01
Speaker 1: started to do it. And there's a bag of girls,
32:03
Speaker 1: a group like a no, you know, a bunch of women.
32:13
Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of a bunch of girls have
32:14
Speaker 1: done it. And what I think is very interesting and
32:17
Speaker 1: I think we knew was going to happen to besides
32:19
Speaker 1: this song, bring this conversation about relationship and setting up
32:24
Speaker 1: the story of the album. Blah blah blah. It's going
32:26
Speaker 1: to show some some sides of people are showing a
32:28
Speaker 1: lot of double standards and men. It's showing a lot
32:31
Speaker 1: of even hipocrisy, though sometimes of women, because these women
32:34
Speaker 1: are now making super over the top toxic clapbacks and
32:39
Speaker 1: girls are now cheering it on like yes, man, talk
32:42
Speaker 1: that ship, you know, and they're happy about it. Now.
32:45
Speaker 1: I love this so many of those I love this.
32:48
Speaker 1: Women have so many of them, so many What do
32:50
Speaker 1: you mean we get so many insert R and insert
32:53
Speaker 1: Keishah's discography here. Everything we've been enough, Somber Walker, Jesus
32:59
Speaker 1: Simon Walker, everybody going and shout out to all that.
33:02
Speaker 1: Of course, the great records that you know we got,
33:06
Speaker 1: we haven't had. I feel like we haven't had some
33:08
Speaker 1: ship like this since Confessions. It's been a while. Yeah,
33:11
Speaker 1: have you guys? Confession's toxic. It wasn't toxic, but it
33:14
Speaker 1: was definitely like, oh wow, he's like rapping about like
33:17
Speaker 1: cheating and like sucking up a relationship and like, so,
33:20
Speaker 1: why don't people take this the same way? I think
33:22
Speaker 1: it's a little more blatant and we're fighting. It's an anthem.
33:28
Speaker 1: It's a very anthem, like like you said, you guys
33:31
Speaker 1: did the like male like, like everyone's chanting and let's
33:35
Speaker 1: be honest, it's twenty twenty two. Motherfuckers are pussy out here.
33:41
Speaker 1: I like that. Wow, nobody's used to men talking like
33:44
Speaker 1: that shit on records, especially R and B. They're like,
33:46
Speaker 1: oh my god, ruffel feathers. Yeah, you guys, mind fucking
33:49
Speaker 1: When I got canceled in a few like group chats,
33:51
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You don't know for sure
33:55
Speaker 1: but yeah it worked because the shock is, you know,
33:59
Speaker 1: starting to wear. Often people are like, but I like
34:02
Speaker 1: the song, Well there it is