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Speaker 1: hear from our experts former NBA tenure, NBA vet, former
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Speaker 1: you Dub big Man, former high school legend here in Seattle,
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Speaker 1: and Ben our NBA insider during the playoffs for each
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Speaker 1: of the last two seasons, so we get to chat
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Speaker 1: with him once per week this time of the year.
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Speaker 1: Spencer Hawis is with us here on Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, sir, Good morning, how are you. I'm doing
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Speaker 1: all right, How are things with you? I was your weekend?
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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy us? A nice, lovely, romantic, good weather weekend.
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Speaker 2: Had a great weekend, good Mother's Day, brunch at home
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Speaker 2: my family, and then kind of got spoiled Sunday night
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Speaker 2: with the Spurs situation.
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Speaker 3: But we move on. He bounce back tonight.
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Speaker 1: Well, I do want to talk about the Spurs situation,
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Speaker 1: but I got to have you weigh in on my
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Speaker 1: list first. I don't know if Ashley warned you what
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Speaker 1: I was getting ready to do, but I made a
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Speaker 1: couple of bold statements. I put together my best list
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Speaker 1: all time, ten best players in NBA history. Here's the
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Speaker 1: first bold statement in it. I said, Michael Jordan is
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Speaker 1: clearly number one, but I think Lebron is just as
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Speaker 1: clearly number two. And I think the gap between two
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Speaker 1: and three is larger than two and one. What is
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Speaker 1: your thought about that?
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Speaker 3: I think that's a good list.
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Speaker 2: I hate the revisionists, you know, trying to compare eras,
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Speaker 2: but I do agree that those two are clearly at
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Speaker 2: the top, and there's a pretty good, pretty sizable gap
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Speaker 2: between those two gentlemen and everybody else. I got a
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Speaker 2: bold statement that I'm fired up about this morning myself,
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Speaker 2: i'd like to share.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't.
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Speaker 2: Know if you and this is an individual and Howard
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Speaker 2: Schultz that I rarely agree with and like to see
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Speaker 2: getting any sort of publicity, but he wrote an interesting
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Speaker 2: op ed in the Wall Street Journal about the state
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Speaker 2: of the Seattle business climate, and I hope that the
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Speaker 2: mayor read it, and I hope that she's taking notes,
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Speaker 2: because I saw yesterday in an interview she's talking about
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Speaker 2: throwing in more taxes for the city of Seattle, and
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Speaker 2: as it pertains the Sonics, and obviously Howard's history with
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Speaker 2: that franchise here, I'd just like to throw out a
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Speaker 2: little warning to her that you know, all of these
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Speaker 2: measures that that she's either done or talking about doing
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Speaker 2: in the city and that the state is done here
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Speaker 2: is not helping our cause trying to lure back the Sonics.
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Speaker 2: So I'd like to ask her and the politicians above
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Speaker 2: her in the state to start reconsidering and if they
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Speaker 2: are really sports fans and not just people that like
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Speaker 2: putting hats on at parades and press conferences and pretending
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Speaker 2: to reconsider the actions they're taking that are demeaning our
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Speaker 2: business environment. If we want to have a chance to
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Speaker 2: get the Sonics back. So I'm getting that off my chest.
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Speaker 2: Let's get to the playoff analysis.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you got it off your chest.
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Speaker 3: And then.
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Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes is with us. Here are NBA playoff insider.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Whimby situation. Then what
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Speaker 1: did you think of the actual moment in the game,
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Speaker 1: and then how the officials and the league reacted, meaning
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Speaker 1: he got ejected from the game but not suspended any
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Speaker 1: further beyond that your thought on the entire scenario.
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Speaker 2: So I think first and foremost the elbow warranted interjection.
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Speaker 3: I think it's you can't ye know.
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Speaker 2: I know it was as a big guy, especially when
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Speaker 2: you're younger in p I've never been seven to seven before.
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Speaker 3: But the way that they guard him and the way that.
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Speaker 1: He's officiating, he might still you might have another burst.
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Speaker 3: You never know, I hope not at this point.
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Speaker 2: But when guys are when guys are beating you up
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Speaker 2: and hanging on you like that over the course of
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Speaker 2: a game, a series, a season, it takes his toll.
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Speaker 2: And in that particular instance, he had two guys, and
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Speaker 2: McDaniels and nas Red climbing all over him, fouling him,
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Speaker 2: and I think the officials want I mean, their job
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Speaker 2: in a game is to control the game and control
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Speaker 2: the flow and not let it get out of hand
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Speaker 2: either way. And if they do their job early and
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Speaker 2: call a foul before the second defender gets in there
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Speaker 2: and starts hanging all over him, he doesn't react like that.
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Speaker 3: And that's not to justify his reaction.
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Speaker 2: Obviously that was excessive, and like I said, I think
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Speaker 2: warranted the ejection. Unfortunately, in that instance, if they're doing
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Speaker 2: their job, it doesn't get to that point, and you
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Speaker 2: don't have Wendy getting kicked out, and you don't have
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Speaker 2: nas Reed taking the sharpest elbow in the west right
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Speaker 2: to his jugular.
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Speaker 1: Did do you think that Mitch Johnson's message after the game,
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Speaker 1: which I also loved, He'll take the fine. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to defend my big man and send a message. Do
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Speaker 1: you think it will work? Do you think we'll see
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Speaker 1: the game officiated a little differently from Wemby's perspective tonight.
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Speaker 3: I would hope so.
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Speaker 2: And if I know anything about how the playoffs operate,
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Speaker 2: the Spurs probably had their video crew putting put together
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Speaker 2: a nice little four or five minute montage of all
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Speaker 2: the hits that he's taken, probably not just in this series,
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Speaker 2: but going back to the last one and maybe before
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Speaker 2: uh to the league office to demonstrate how they referee
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Speaker 2: him versus, for example, how Julius Randall is refereed on
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Speaker 2: the other end of the floor where he's just hand
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Speaker 2: checking anybody he can at twenty five feet to try
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Speaker 2: and stay stay in front of him. So I would
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Speaker 2: expect Wenby to come out tonight with his boots on fire,
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Speaker 2: and I think they are going to have to, you know,
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Speaker 2: officiate differently in light of the context that is now, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of the national spotlight on this series.
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Speaker 1: You know, Bickerstaff called out the officials last night. There
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Speaker 1: was a huge discrepancy I think it was thirty four
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Speaker 1: free throws to twelve in the Cavaliers Pistons game, and
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Speaker 1: he pointed out that Kenny Atkinson, head coach of the Cavaliers,
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Speaker 1: earlier in the series, had made the NBA officials, the
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Speaker 1: officials in the series aware of some things that he
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Speaker 1: didn't like about it, and since that time, according to Bickerstaff,
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Speaker 1: the officiating has turned on its head and now he
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Speaker 1: feels like all the calls are going the Cavaliers way.
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Speaker 1: It's sad that an officiating crew could respond that way,
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Speaker 1: could react that way to some criticism, But does it work.
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Speaker 1: Does it work as a head coach to call out officials?
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Speaker 1: Do you more often than not get the immediate dividends
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Speaker 1: of that just by making them aware of the discrepancies
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Speaker 1: that are occurring.
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Speaker 3: I think so.
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Speaker 2: And the first thing you have to remember is that
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Speaker 2: the officials are human beings.
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Speaker 3: We don't have robo umps.
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Speaker 2: And I think what gets lost in a lot of
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Speaker 2: this conversation, and everyone wants to talk about home court
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Speaker 2: advantage and especially in the playoffs and why it's so important,
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Speaker 2: But you know, I think last night was a great
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Speaker 2: example of you know, the Cavaliers being a team that
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Speaker 2: they rely heavily on three point shooting, and generally your
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Speaker 2: three point shooters, especially you're non stars that aren't going
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Speaker 2: to get as many looks, always shoot better at home.
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Speaker 2: But you also get the benefit of the whistle at
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Speaker 2: home a lot more than you do on the road
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and whether they've been called out or not,
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Speaker 2: I think that's been a constant as long as I
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Speaker 2: can remember. In the playoffs and I think it's showing
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Speaker 2: itself not only in that series, and I would go
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Speaker 2: out I probably don't have to go out on a
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Speaker 2: limb and say that will also be the case in
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Speaker 2: San Antonio.
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Speaker 1: This evening, well, that's what we've got left to hang
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Speaker 1: our hat on. In this round we had two sweeps.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the two series that are still alive,
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Speaker 1: and they're even right now at two games a piece.
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Speaker 1: What will be the outcome of San Antonio Minnesota, What
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Speaker 1: will be the outcome of Cleveland Detroit? And what will
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Speaker 1: the reasons be for those outcomes?
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Speaker 2: In your estimation, I think there's still well, there's there's
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Speaker 2: more intrigue now given the Wemby ejection and all everything
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Speaker 2: that comes along with that, I still think that series
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Speaker 2: is a little easier to predict. I do think San
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Speaker 2: Antonio comes out ahead on that one.
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Speaker 3: The Cavs Pistons.
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's interesting, the Pistons get up
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Speaker 2: to oh at home, everyone thinks they got in the bag,
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Speaker 2: and then the age old adage of a series doesn't
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Speaker 2: start till a team gets one on the road.
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Speaker 3: They go back to.
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Speaker 2: Cleveland, where Cleveland's had a huge home court advantage for
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Speaker 2: a few years now in the playoffs, and they even
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Speaker 2: a backup, So I think that I think the game
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Speaker 2: five and in that one is going to tell us
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Speaker 2: a lot more about how things are going to go.
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Speaker 2: I I think Cleveland has found something being at home.
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Speaker 2: But Kay Cunningham has looked, maybe not last night, but
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Speaker 2: up until this point in the series, looked like by
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Speaker 2: far and away the best player in that series.
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Speaker 3: And usually when you.
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Speaker 2: Get to the playoffs, you know, if all other things
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Speaker 2: are closed, the team with the best player and especially
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Speaker 2: the best closer ends up.
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Speaker 1: For Daily Spencer Owis is with us former NBA ten
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Speaker 1: year player, and of course you dub big Man and
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Speaker 1: he's joining us here on Chuck and Buck throughout the
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Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs for a second year in a row to
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Speaker 1: be our NBA Playoff expert. And we have two series
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Speaker 1: of course that we're swept. I mean, can the Knicks
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Speaker 1: play any better than what they played against Philadelphia? And
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Speaker 1: is it sustainable going forward?
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Speaker 2: I mean, they look like the biggest juggernaut we've seen
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Speaker 2: so far so far in the playoffs, and maybe outside
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Speaker 2: of ok See, I think okay See, he's had pretty
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Speaker 2: favorable matchups, but that's what you get when you're the
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Speaker 2: number one seed.
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Speaker 3: You position yourself that way.
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Speaker 2: But you know, they went in obviously against the Philly
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Speaker 2: team that's that has some flaws, but you know, people
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Speaker 2: forget they did this without Og and Noobi and still
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Speaker 2: made that quick work of a sixers team that was
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Speaker 2: riding some good momentum coming into that into that series.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you can count on them
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Speaker 2: shooting the ball the same way, but it looks like,
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Speaker 2: you know, the way that Mike Brown is kind of
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Speaker 2: tinkered with Karl Anthony Towns and using him as more
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Speaker 2: of a point forward. I think his assist totals are
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Speaker 2: the thing that stood out to be in that last
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Speaker 2: series against Philly. He's really turned into certainly their secondary,
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Speaker 2: if not primary playmaker in the half court, and I
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Speaker 2: think that's a massive advantage that the Micks have against
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Speaker 2: whoever comes out of that that other series in the East,
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Speaker 2: and if they can prevail there, they will have them
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Speaker 2: in the finals as well.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty much only one rule in the Spencer conversation,
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Speaker 1: try not to give the thunder credit. Ever, and yet
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Speaker 1: Man eight to no to this point in the playoffs
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Speaker 1: without their second best player being healthy, and now they're
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Speaker 1: going to get all that rest for whoever comes out
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Speaker 1: of San Antonio, Minnesota. Man, they just and they're getting
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Speaker 1: contributions from everyone. I mean, SGA doesn't even have to
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Speaker 1: have good games and they're still winning easily here through
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Speaker 1: the first two rounds of the playoffs. I think you
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Speaker 1: were leaning toward the Spurs at the beginning of the postseason.
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Speaker 1: Are you changing your mind based on what you're seeing
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Speaker 1: out of OKC so far?
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Speaker 3: Joe, I'm still leaning on Spurs.
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Speaker 2: I'm still pulling for my boy match, I still think.
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Speaker 1: But I know what you're pulling for us.
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Speaker 2: I still think that that we learned something in the
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Speaker 2: playoffs about the way or sorry in the regular season,
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Speaker 2: about the way that they can match up with Oklahom,
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Speaker 2: a city that really no one else can with the
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Speaker 2: size of their guards and the amount of the Spurs.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the amount of point of attack defenders
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Speaker 2: that they have they.
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Speaker 3: Can throw at s GA.
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Speaker 2: J Williams and now apparently AJ Mitchell, who's turned into
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Speaker 2: a legitimate number two options. But Oklahoma they're really good,
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Speaker 2: and they're really balanced. And if I didn't have all
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Speaker 2: this hate in my heart for him. I'd probably enjoy it,
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Speaker 2: and I'd certainly enjoy watching the way they play basketball.
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Speaker 2: The way they move the ball, I think is the
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Speaker 2: thing that stands out. And they've struck quite a balance
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Speaker 2: of having the best score in the league, who is
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Speaker 2: so effective in isolation, who can go out and do
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Speaker 2: it on his own, yet has the willingness to get
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Speaker 2: off the ball and allow that thing to skip around
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Speaker 2: to find all the rest of the guys and keep
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Speaker 2: them engaged on the offensive end of the floor, which
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Speaker 2: in turn generally gets guys more engaged on the opposite
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Speaker 2: end when they feel like they're touching the ball and
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Speaker 2: they're having something to do with it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're scary right now, just scary. And so hopefully
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Speaker 1: we got a good Western Conference and Eastern Conference finals
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Speaker 1: ahead of us, because there were a couple of blowouts
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Speaker 1: there in round number two, and of course the Lakers
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Speaker 1: are out. Just kind of bringing it back to Lebron
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Speaker 1: here quickly. Do you think he's played his last game?
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Speaker 1: And if so, how does Spencer Hawes put his career
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Speaker 1: in perspective?
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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't think.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I was kind of going down, going down
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Speaker 2: the rabbit hole this morning and looking at some of
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Speaker 2: his all the regular season accomplishments and then what he's
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Speaker 2: been able to do in the playoffs and his averages
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and you don't, Yeah, if they would
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Speaker 2: have won the championship, maybe he says, Okay, I go
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Speaker 2: out on top and I'm still averaging twenty five and five.
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Speaker 2: But I think getting swept in the second round of
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Speaker 2: the playoffs is not how I would imagine someone like
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Speaker 2: him wants to go out playing his final game. And
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Speaker 2: I think as a shock to most people, his ability
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Speaker 2: to still be so productive at forty one shows me
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Speaker 2: that there's still a lot left in the tank, and
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Speaker 2: there's a lot left to contribute to winning, which I
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Speaker 2: think is at this stage of his career ultimately his motivation,
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Speaker 2: and whether it's in LA or in another opportunity, I
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Speaker 2: think being the third option this year really and being
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Speaker 2: comfortable being the third option, which many people probably didn't
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Speaker 2: anticipate that he would be, shows that, you know, there's
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Speaker 2: a lot more situations than maybe the league originally anticipated
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Speaker 2: that he could go slide into and be a major
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Speaker 2: difference maker and impact winning both in the regular season
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Speaker 2: and in the course of the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting to see you start thinking about some teams
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Speaker 1: he might fit on. If he'd be willing to take
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Speaker 1: like a even a tertiary role to play three more
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Speaker 1: years it limited minutes, he might be able to latch
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Speaker 1: onto like a finished product and put them over the top.
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Speaker 1: But we shall see. I don't think he's done either. Hey,
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Speaker 1: do you have thoughts on the NBA lottery at all?
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Speaker 1: I mean you don't. You're not as suspicious of it
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Speaker 1: as I am. Are you about it to being rigged?
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Speaker 1: Didn't we have that conversation a year ago?
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Speaker 3: I am not.
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Speaker 2: I'm very grateful that the Thunder didn't buck the odds
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Speaker 2: and end up with a top four pick, but no,
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Speaker 2: I think I think we talked about this. I commend
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Speaker 2: the league and the commissioner for being open to trying
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Speaker 2: out a new model, and if it works, great, If
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Speaker 2: it doesn't, it's better than leaving the system now where
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Speaker 2: you just have teams giving up before the All Star break.
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Speaker 2: And I think it's gonna make for some interesting, interesting
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Speaker 2: play by some bad teams next year down the stretch
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Speaker 2: to try and avoid getting punished for being at the
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Speaker 2: at the lowest rung of the totem pole and I'm
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Speaker 2: hopeful that it leads to a better product going forward,
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Speaker 2: and that this anking narrative can, if not disappear, at
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Speaker 2: least be mitigated to a certain extent.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just mitigate it. I think that's the only
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Speaker 1: goal you can have, is just to so it doesn't
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Speaker 1: become such a prominent story and so many of your markets.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you, and I still don't know
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Speaker 1: if they're going far enough with their idea. I think
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Speaker 1: I'd like to just get rid of the entire lottery
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Speaker 1: process and figure out a way to you know, make
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Speaker 1: teams earn it down the stretch, if there's a really
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Speaker 1: creative way to do that. But we shall see how
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Speaker 1: it goes, all right, man, Well, thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: You got a little bit off your chest today. We
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Speaker 1: got to talk about history, a little bit of the league,
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Speaker 1: and you also got to undefend BigMan who are always
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Speaker 1: getting fouled more than they should. Right.
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Speaker 3: You know, my dad always taught me if you're going
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Speaker 3: to throw the you have to pivot with it. You
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Speaker 3: can't lead with the elbow. You're going to lead with
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Speaker 3: the pivot and then it's a legal move.
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Speaker 1: Good to know, all right, all Right, man, Well, thank
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Speaker 1: you very much. We appreciate it. We'll bug you again
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Speaker 1: next week. All right, all right, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: All right, Spencer hollis joining us right here on Chuck
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Speaker 1: and Buck in the morning, and so yes, Timberwolves and Spurs.
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Speaker 1: Tonight it will be game number five. Is it going
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Speaker 1: to be the decisive game in the series? Wimby will
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Speaker 1: play in the contest remains to be seen. If it
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Speaker 1: will be officiated any differently. I mean, it's kind of sad.
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Speaker 1: I think it's very frustrating that if it is, I
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Speaker 1: think it needs to be. I'm torn because I think
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Speaker 1: it needs to be officiated differently. I don't think that
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Speaker 1: you can let anyone and I know this, you know,
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Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of people that are like, hey,
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Speaker 1: he's just like anybody else. If he's too skinny to
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Speaker 1: take it, then he can, you know, get hurt. It's
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Speaker 1: no big deal. You know, he needs to be like
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Speaker 1: anybody else. I think that you kind of have to
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Speaker 1: protect your superstars to a degree, but.
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Speaker 4: I also just to a degree.
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Speaker 5: I also don't think they're treating him like anyone else
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Speaker 5: right now, because I don't think they know necessarily how
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Speaker 5: people don't know how to defend him, so their officials
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Speaker 5: don't know how to officiate in that way to make
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Speaker 5: it fair for either of either side.
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Speaker 1: Right, And that's where I'm kind of torn. It's like,
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Speaker 1: I want him to be more protected by the league,
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Speaker 1: but I don't want it to go so far as
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Speaker 1: that ends up being the story tomorrow. Right. And then
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Speaker 1: the Timberwolves have a legitimate gripe because you've you caved
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Speaker 1: subconsciously or consciously overnight, and now you're officiating the series
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Speaker 1: completely differently. When our guys got locked into how we
19:46
Speaker 1: were going to limit him, and now all of a sudden,
19:49
Speaker 1: we can't touch him. You know, Cleveland Detroit series is
19:52
Speaker 1: going on right now, and Bickerstaff accused Cleveland of planting
19:57
Speaker 1: a seed in the official's head, and that is Kinnyatka's job.
20:01
Speaker 1: You get to the postgame press conference and you say,
20:04
Speaker 1: I don't like the way this was done. You know,
20:06
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like this this and this is happening the
20:09
Speaker 1: right way. And then the next thing you know, you
20:11
Speaker 1: go to Cleveland and Cleveland's getting all the calls and
20:14
Speaker 1: now Detroit's looking up at a thirty four to twelve
20:16
Speaker 1: free throw differential. And losing the basketball game. So now
20:21
Speaker 1: Bickerstaff has thrown his thoughts into it to try to
20:24
Speaker 1: get back into the official's head and kind of reverse
20:27
Speaker 1: the way things are going. It just should not swing
20:30
Speaker 1: that dramatically they call the damn game and don't be
20:35
Speaker 1: so influenced by And maybe they're not, but it feels
20:39
Speaker 1: that way. It feels like the officials in the Cleveland
20:43
Speaker 1: Detroit series have been way too influenced by coaches criticisms
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Speaker 1: and maybe even a phone call from from the league
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Speaker 1: office saying, yeah, they're right about this, and now they've
20:55
Speaker 1: kind of swung it the other way. I don't want
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21:00
Speaker 1: Timberwolves can't touch Wimby tonight. No, But on the other hand,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see him being manhandled every time
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Speaker 1: he gets the ball, because I want to see Wimby
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Speaker 5: It's yeah, you can't treat him like he's made of glass,
21:15
Speaker 5: but you also can't treat him like he's made of steel.
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Speaker 1: the alphabet to be our guide through a few things.
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Speaker 1: Let me first recap what happened last night, a win
22:08
Speaker 1: three to one over the Houston Astros. Scored two runs
22:12
Speaker 1: early to clutch RBI hits from Dom and from Cole
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Speaker 1: Young in the game, and then a Julio Rodriguez bomb,
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Speaker 1: and then George Kirby only made it through five. We're
22:24
Speaker 1: down three of our top five relievers right now, and
22:28
Speaker 1: yet guys stepped up, got the job done. Four scoreless
22:32
Speaker 1: innings from our bullpen, four different pitchers last night, and
22:35
Speaker 1: it's a three to one win in Houston. Good way
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Speaker 1: to start the four game series. So let's get to
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Speaker 1: the alphabet we left off of the letter in and
22:43
Speaker 1: N is for Nicky sixth, Nick Devila last night stepping
22:49
Speaker 1: into a big and I guess it's not technically high leverage.
22:54
Speaker 1: I don't think high leverage is counted on until seventh, eighth,
22:56
Speaker 1: and ninth. But to be handed the ball by George
23:00
Speaker 1: Kirby certainly the biggest moment of his major league career
23:04
Speaker 1: since he's pitched twice. But he I was surprised that,
23:08
Speaker 1: oh wow, we're going here. Huh is what we're doing? Okay,
23:13
Speaker 1: I guess we'll we'll do it. We haven't even really
23:15
Speaker 1: got to know this bloke, and yet here he is
23:17
Speaker 1: standing on the mound with a slim lead against the
23:20
Speaker 1: Houston Astros, taking the ball from George Kirby. And if
23:23
Speaker 1: he didn't get the job done, nice job, young man.
23:27
Speaker 4: Yes, well done, Nicky sixth.
23:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll start calling Nickky.
23:32
Speaker 5: Sixth only in yard allowed to play in the sixth, Right,
23:36
Speaker 5: that's it?
23:38
Speaker 1: And wins? Yes, yeah, if he pitches then a loss,
23:41
Speaker 1: who cares?
23:42
Speaker 4: Right, then we don't talk about him at all.
23:43
Speaker 1: But in a win, I mean that, I mean when
23:46
Speaker 1: you're when you're going into the evening and you know
23:49
Speaker 1: you're down, and you've got George who's known for his control.
23:53
Speaker 1: Now he's also had a past where he's not been
23:55
Speaker 1: the most efficient dude in the world despite his control,
23:59
Speaker 1: which to me does not up uh. And yet man,
24:03
Speaker 1: he barely got through the fifth last night. I couldn't believe.
24:06
Speaker 1: I kind of had to do a double take, Like,
24:08
Speaker 1: wait a minute, his pitch count's that high and we're
24:11
Speaker 1: in the fifth inning and he's only allowed one and
24:13
Speaker 1: it feels like he's having a pretty good game, and
24:15
Speaker 1: yet he barely got through the fifth And I don't know,
24:19
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was part of the script.
24:20
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, who's going
24:22
Speaker 1: to pitch the sixth? Nikki? Nikki sixth?
24:24
Speaker 5: Well, and especially yeah with Kirby, because it feels like
24:26
Speaker 5: he's been so efficient, uh huh this far in the season,
24:30
Speaker 5: and so yeah, for him to get to ninety nine pitches,
24:33
Speaker 5: it was like, well.
24:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened or what happened?
24:36
Speaker 4: This isn't George.
24:37
Speaker 1: I when I'm watching the replay right now, maybe I'll
24:39
Speaker 1: figure it out.
24:39
Speaker 4: Okay, key, count him up, Just start counting his pitches.
24:42
Speaker 1: Hey, he's at twenty three right now on the replay,
24:44
Speaker 1: just threw his twenty fourth pitch and he's in the
24:46
Speaker 1: bottom of the second with just one out. So yeah,
24:48
Speaker 1: not real fision, No, he was not.
24:50
Speaker 5: But I mean at least he only gave up one
24:52
Speaker 5: run yesterday. My prediction was he'd go seven and give
24:55
Speaker 5: up one hit.
24:56
Speaker 1: Oh, I was off.
24:57
Speaker 4: I was wrong, but okay, five and he gave up
25:00
Speaker 4: one run. Still I accept it.
25:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he did well last night, but
25:05
Speaker 1: really it was the bullpen and guys like Davila and
25:09
Speaker 1: Criswell that came through. Cooper. Criswell, by the way, is
25:12
Speaker 1: going to join us for the first time ever today
25:14
Speaker 1: at nine thirty. Oh is for over aggression, and I
25:18
Speaker 1: do believe that our third base coach last night was
25:22
Speaker 1: over aggressive in sending two runners in that second inning.
25:27
Speaker 1: I mean, can Zone's RBI hit the other way was
25:31
Speaker 1: blistered and Randy's fast, but it felt like that was
25:36
Speaker 1: an over aggressive move. I think if the left fielder
25:40
Speaker 1: fields that cleanly, he guns Randy or Rose Arena out
25:43
Speaker 1: at home plate, then on the very next batter Cole
25:46
Speaker 1: Young with a base hit to right field, and if
25:49
Speaker 1: Luke Raley doesn't round that third base bag perfectly, I
25:55
Speaker 1: mean he barely was safe anyway.
25:57
Speaker 4: Sliding his fingers right underneath the tag.
26:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he I mean, if he's not a fast
26:02
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't hit that bag perfectly, and you know,
26:06
Speaker 1: hit that and you're able to not round the bag
26:11
Speaker 1: but project yourself toward home plate.
26:14
Speaker 3: And then he was.
26:15
Speaker 1: Still barely safe after a beautiful slide. I mean you
26:19
Speaker 1: could argue that those were both wrong decisions. And yet
26:26
Speaker 1: I like an over aggressive third base coach, and I
26:29
Speaker 1: think when you're struggling offensively with two outs and we're
26:33
Speaker 1: not known for two out base hits, yeah, go for it.
26:37
Speaker 1: Maybe they do bobble the ball on left field. Maybe
26:41
Speaker 1: Rayley does, you know, round the bag perfectly and score.
26:45
Speaker 1: Make them make the play against you. So those were
26:49
Speaker 1: two over aggressive sins, and yet they were the difference
26:53
Speaker 1: in the game last night, And we might now win
26:55
Speaker 1: that baseball game if we don't treat those two plays
26:59
Speaker 1: that aggreat Well.
27:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that bobble on the Randy when Randy scored
27:03
Speaker 5: wasn't even that big of a bobble.
27:05
Speaker 4: I mean he bobbled it slightly.
27:06
Speaker 5: And then and then threw to the cutoff guy instead
27:09
Speaker 5: of even trying to throw home, which I was thankful for,
27:12
Speaker 5: but both of them were close. I liked the fact that, yeah,
27:16
Speaker 5: we were just like, you know what, we're risking it.
27:18
Speaker 5: Let's see what happens.
27:19
Speaker 1: Fly fly fly, no risk at no biscuit.
27:22
Speaker 4: That's right.
27:24
Speaker 1: Carlos Cardoza is the third base coach for the Seattle Mariners,
27:28
Speaker 1: and so he played a big role in that victory
27:31
Speaker 1: last night. And then finally, P is for power, And
27:35
Speaker 1: of course I'm going to refer to Julio Rodriguez. How
27:39
Speaker 1: many times have we had a conversation on this show
27:43
Speaker 1: over the Julio Rodriguez his career with Bucky yourself and
27:47
Speaker 1: I talking about Julio coming up in situations and trying
27:52
Speaker 1: to hit a ball seemingly one thousand feet when all
27:55
Speaker 1: you need is a base hit in that moment.
27:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, and more often than not, it's been in a
27:59
Speaker 5: clutch moment him and it's backfired.
28:02
Speaker 1: So I want every time that he does that again
28:05
Speaker 1: in the future, for the coaching staff to show him
28:08
Speaker 1: that home run last night, because he didn't even get
28:12
Speaker 1: it all he was actually his feet were out a
28:15
Speaker 1: little ahead, but he kept his hands back and then
28:18
Speaker 1: just took as he said to Brad Adam after the game,
28:21
Speaker 1: just put a good swing on the ball. And he
28:23
Speaker 1: just put a good swing on the ball. And look, son,
28:26
Speaker 1: how far you can hit the baseball because you are
28:29
Speaker 1: that strong, you are that talented, you are that good
28:33
Speaker 1: of a hitter. I mean, he almost knocked it out
28:35
Speaker 1: of the stadium and he didn't take a swing for
28:39
Speaker 1: the fences. That was just I'm a little out in front,
28:42
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep my hands back and I'm gonna
28:44
Speaker 1: put a good swing on this thing and then look
28:47
Speaker 1: at it fly. So when you are in those game
28:51
Speaker 1: winning situations and we need to hit, just try to
28:55
Speaker 1: put a good swing on the ball and it might
28:58
Speaker 1: leave the park anyway, leave the park by a lot,
29:02
Speaker 1: because it did last night. That's how good you are.
29:05
Speaker 1: But if you're going to go up there trying to
29:07
Speaker 1: murder the ball a thousand feet so that everybody will
29:10
Speaker 1: marvel at you on Sports Center that night, then I
29:14
Speaker 1: think you're going to fail in those moments more than
29:17
Speaker 1: you succeed. But if you approach it just like you
29:20
Speaker 1: did last night, I'm just trying to put a good
29:22
Speaker 1: swing on the Pole, you can be the hero. You
29:24
Speaker 1: can hit the five hundred foot home run like we
29:27
Speaker 1: saw last night. It was a thing of beauty. It
29:29
Speaker 1: just shows you how much peat for power that that
29:32
Speaker 1: guy really has.
29:32
Speaker 3: Well.
29:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'd much rather see you put a good
29:34
Speaker 5: swing on it and you fly out to center field
29:39
Speaker 5: without I'd rather see that than you swinging for the
29:42
Speaker 5: fences and you lose balance and almost fall over at
29:44
Speaker 5: the plate, which we've seen too often. So just yeah,
29:48
Speaker 5: keep your wits about you, keep your feet in the
29:50
Speaker 5: right position, just keep your balance, keep your body right,
29:53
Speaker 5: and clearly we know what can happen. So I thought
29:57
Speaker 5: it was great. He I mean, just in general, he's
29:59
Speaker 5: looked good so far this year. He doesn't seem like
30:02
Speaker 5: he's trying to swing out of his butt.
30:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
30:04
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
30:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. But that's a reminder that, uh, you know,
30:09
Speaker 1: when you have that much talent. I mean, Bucky's talking
30:12
Speaker 1: about it with him, talked about it with col. I mean,
30:14
Speaker 1: this is what launched Cow. I mean it was just
30:17
Speaker 1: you put the ball in play, and your home runs
30:20
Speaker 1: are going to come yep. So and that was with
30:23
Speaker 1: the bass is empty leading off an inning last night.
30:26
Speaker 1: So the next opportunity you have with one out, second
30:29
Speaker 1: and third and the ninth inning, remember that swing. Don't
30:33
Speaker 1: swing on the ball, and maybe you don't hit a
30:35
Speaker 1: three run homer, but you put the ball in play
30:38
Speaker 1: and you're not walking back to the dugout having not
30:41
Speaker 1: come through because you tried to hit the ball seven
30:43
Speaker 1: hundred feet three swings.
30:45
Speaker 3: In a row.
30:45
Speaker 1: Exactly, You've got the power. You have the power. So
30:49
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Speaker 1: last couple of days. Another thing we haven't even pointed out.
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Speaker 4: Very easy to cheer for. I think for a lot
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Speaker 5: You don't have to be a Lions fan or a
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Speaker 4: They're fun to watch.
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Speaker 1: Well for two straight years, maybe three. You know, if
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Speaker 1: versus Buffalo. Yeah, they can't make it happen themselves in
33:51
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Speaker 4: That stadium, by the way, does it have a roof?
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Speaker 4: Does you would have a roof?
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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Speaker 4: I don't think so.
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Speaker 5: Okay, good because I wanted to make sure that the
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Speaker 1: Uh. And it's also one of those two of those
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Speaker 1: So that was leaked since yesterday, but we're gonna find
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Speaker 1: out the bulk of the information on Thursday. We actually
34:37
Speaker 1: we'll find out all the information on Thursday. Uh. And
34:40
Speaker 1: in the meantime, we've already discussed who they might face
34:43
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in their season opener, and I think it's
34:47
Speaker 1: going to be the Chicago Bears. And if it's not
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Speaker 1: there's another option. Frankly, with the Chiefs coming off the
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35:02
Speaker 1: on the opening night, and I can't imagine they want
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Speaker 1: to deal with the Rabel Russini circus to start their season.
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Speaker 1: So it's Bears or Chargers. It's looking like for the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks opener, and I would put my money on the
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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. But there's another aspect. There's another leg of
35:20
Speaker 1: this that we can discuss today, and this often offends
35:25
Speaker 1: Seahawks fans, is that they don't feel they get enough
35:28
Speaker 1: respect with the number of prime time games that they're given.
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Speaker 1: Number One, do you like when the Seahawks play in
35:34
Speaker 1: the primetime games the standalone games?
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Speaker 4: I do, and I don't.
35:39
Speaker 5: I like it because I like that all eyes are
35:41
Speaker 5: on the Seahawks and that's fun. But I really love
35:44
Speaker 5: watching the Seahawks on a Sunday and I like argument
35:47
Speaker 5: that routine. I like having my team there on a Sunday.
35:50
Speaker 5: It's just you know, in the week, you can get
35:54
Speaker 5: caught up with a bunch of different things you've got
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Speaker 5: to do, and so on a Thursday night or a
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Speaker 5: Monday night, that just sometimes can be tricky. And I
36:00
Speaker 5: don't want I don't want anything to disrupt my Seahawks viewing.
36:04
Speaker 5: And I always know and during football season, I've got
36:07
Speaker 5: my Sunday time to watch football.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
36:10
Speaker 1: Well, when you're world champion, you're gonna have fewer Sundays,
36:14
Speaker 1: fewer normal Sundays. You're gonna have more prime time games
36:17
Speaker 1: when you're coming off a championship than you had the
36:20
Speaker 1: previous year. The Eagles had seven last year.
36:23
Speaker 4: That's too many.
36:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven of their seventeen games, they weren't all prime time.
36:27
Speaker 1: Six of them were prime time, but seven standalone games
36:30
Speaker 1: because they played the Black Friday game. They had two
36:33
Speaker 1: Thursday night games, two Sunday night games, and two Monday
36:36
Speaker 1: night games Philadelphia plus the Black Friday games. So that's
36:39
Speaker 1: seven standalone games that the Eagles played. So you won't
36:42
Speaker 1: be offended if the Seahawks only get five or six.
36:47
Speaker 1: Because the Eagles got seven.
36:49
Speaker 4: That never bothers me. I do not care to.
36:52
Speaker 5: I know it does, right, because one I think the
36:54
Speaker 5: Seahawks and us we thrive on being kind of overlooked
36:59
Speaker 5: or the underdog or not celebrated by everybody.
37:03
Speaker 4: So I don't need I don't.
37:04
Speaker 5: I never look at it and say, oh my gosh,
37:06
Speaker 5: well we got four primetime games.
37:08
Speaker 4: That's garbage the NFL.
37:09
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't care whoever you, wherever your game
37:13
Speaker 5: is scheduled, you're playing the same opponents.
37:15
Speaker 4: So let's let's go win the game. That's all that matters.
37:17
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get the seven, but we'll
37:20
Speaker 1: get at least five and probably land on six because
37:25
Speaker 1: they are creating so many more standalone games between Thursday
37:28
Speaker 1: night and Black Friday.
37:30
Speaker 4: And well, now they've got a Wednesday game on opening.
37:32
Speaker 1: Night, Thanksgiving is extended, and now you play on Christmas
37:36
Speaker 1: two in the National Football League.
37:37
Speaker 4: And yeah, they've got the Wednesday before Thanksgiving game too.
37:40
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, yep, So I think they're even doing
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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, aren't they? Or was it just before Thanksgiving?
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Speaker 1: But remember either way, there are more standalone games in
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Speaker 1: the NFL than ever, so I would imagine we're going
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Speaker 1: to get six, and there are certainly a lot of candidates.
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Speaker 1: I'm with you that I don't want my Sunday routine stripped.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we're gonna have to play the Rams
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Speaker 1: on a primetime game. That's a given. I expect that well,
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Speaker 1: play the forty nine Ers on a primetime game, that's
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Speaker 1: a given. But I want to also play them in
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Speaker 1: the other game on a Sunday, and I'm certainly glad
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Speaker 1: we're not playing them in Melbourne on a Thursday.
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Speaker 5: Again. Well, like I brought up earlier, I'm a forty
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Speaker 5: nine Ers and Rams fans. I am pissed. You should
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Speaker 5: never have a division game in another country. You are
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Speaker 5: taking away from the fan bases in the home field advantage.
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Speaker 1: So those two are gonna be prime timers. I would
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Speaker 1: imagine Philadelphia will be a primetimer. I would imagine Denver
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Speaker 1: on the road will be a primetimer.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: And I think the Chiefs at home and probably the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys at home. I think those are gonna be your six.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what they'll do with New England. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I still don't know how they're gonna handle it,
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Speaker 1: but nah, they're probably gonna be two, so we have
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Speaker 1: to eliminate somebody from that. They're certainly gonna put the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch in a primetime slot. I think maybe
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Speaker 1: we don't get the Chiefs. I think Cowboys, Bears, Patriots,
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Speaker 1: and then one of the NFC West Rams are forty
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Speaker 1: nine ers. As far as home games, that's four.
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Speaker 5: I think if the Chiefs game is late in the season,
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Speaker 5: it would be a primetime game. If it's early in
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Speaker 5: the season where they're still uncertain about if Mahomes will
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Speaker 5: be back or not, I would expect that to not
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Speaker 5: be primetime, d'am.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we shall see. I think we'll get
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Speaker 1: at least five. I don't think we'll quite get the
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Speaker 1: seven the Eagles had, and my guesses it'll land right between.
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Speaker 1: And I'm finally six standalone games out of seventeen for
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