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College student Faith Hedgepeth found naked, bludgeoned. Who killed the NC Chapel Hill co-ed ? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: A teen girl found dead at her off campus apartment
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  Speaker 1: at UNC. What happened to Faith? Crime Stories with Nancy
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  Speaker 1: Grace Faith hedgepath absolutely stunning found dead in the shadow
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  Speaker 1: of UNC's campus. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to the nine one one call on
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  Speaker 1: nine one one? Where is your emergency? I just want
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  Speaker 1: to play a part in My friend just like conscious? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So what's your address, ma'am? I live at hawks You. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: give me, give me the address. I just I just
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  Speaker 1: loved here. I'm about forget it. Oh my god, it's
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  Speaker 1: um the extreme nine old Chaplin Hill wrote in Grome,
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  Speaker 1: I bet you say your friend is unconscious. He's unconscious.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted the apartment in there. Look like you're
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  Speaker 1: hearing the roommate that comes home Corina, who immediately calls
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  Speaker 1: nine one one If she knows something about the identity
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  Speaker 1: of the killer, you can't tell from the nine one
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  Speaker 1: one call. In fact, she thinks Fate is actually just
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  Speaker 1: unconscious with me an all Star panel. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
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  Speaker 1: author of red Flags on Amazon. Find her at Wendy
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  Speaker 1: Patrick PhD dot com. Karen Stark, renowned psychologist joining me
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  Speaker 1: at of New York at Karen Stark dot com. Cloyd
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  Speaker 1: Steiger thirty six years, Seattle PD, twenty two years homicide,
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  Speaker 1: author of Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer, Gary Jane Grant, Cloyd
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  Speaker 1: Steiger dot com, Professor forensics, jacksonvill State University, author of
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  Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joseph Scott Morgan, death investigator.
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  Speaker 1: But right now to Crime online dot com investigative reporter
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  Speaker 1: Nicole Parton, Nicole, I want you to take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to one more segment of that nine one one call Nicole.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how to help her. Okay, Okay, okay?
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  Speaker 1: How old is your How old is she? Okay? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to touch here, but listen
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  Speaker 1: to me. Is she breathing? I don't know. You need
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  Speaker 1: to check and see is she breathing? See an old thing?
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think, so, okay, listen to him. Everywhere
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  Speaker 1: there's what there's blood everywhere. I don't know what that things. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Nicole Parton, doesn't nine one one have
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  Speaker 1: caller ID for Pete's sake. I mean, they went on
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  Speaker 1: and on with the girl. The roommate about what's your
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  Speaker 1: correct address? Don't they have it? And I was also
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  Speaker 1: struck by the fact that the roommate thinks Faith is
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  Speaker 1: actually just unconscious. That's correct, Nancy, and I do think
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  Speaker 1: that now that is one of the things that has
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  Speaker 1: been changed with nine one one. They know where you're
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  Speaker 1: calling from, so they can avoid that endless question of
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  Speaker 1: what your address, because obviously at a time like that,
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  Speaker 1: some people can't remember their address. And you can hear
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  Speaker 1: her roommate repeatedly say, I don't think she's breathing. There's
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  Speaker 1: blood everywhere. There's blood everywhere. She says that numerous times,
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  Speaker 1: an enormous amount of blood. Obviously she wasn't just unconscious,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Nicole Parton joining me from crime online dot Com. Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: this was an off campus apartment that so many college
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  Speaker 1: students live in. I lived in off campus after our
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  Speaker 1: guests freshman year, and an apartment with a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: other girls my age that also attended Mercer with me.
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  Speaker 1: So I think this apartment complex was full of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of college students there at University North Carolina. That's correct.
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  Speaker 1: To this day, there are still a lot of university
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  Speaker 1: students who live in this same apartment complex, which plays
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  Speaker 1: a key role because we have several people who heard
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  Speaker 1: things in the night, who were able to see things
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  Speaker 1: in the night, and that will hopefully help a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You're not kidding, Nicole, apart and take a listen now
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  Speaker 1: to a little bit more than nine one one call.
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  Speaker 1: What can we learn? Okay? Is she on her back,
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  Speaker 1: on her laying on her stomach? I love, but like
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  Speaker 1: she fell off the bed because she's like off, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: float all over the pillows like in the comfort there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, listen, Tommy, all right, it's so yes, I've
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  Speaker 1: got somebody coming. I've got somebody coming. I need for
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  Speaker 1: you to help her. I need for you to go
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  Speaker 1: breathing or not? Okay, thank so, Okay, listen, Tommy, go up.
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  Speaker 1: The paramedics are on their way. Guys, you're hearing the
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  Speaker 1: nine one one call. And there's nothing like a nine
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  Speaker 1: one one call when and if you ever got get
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  Speaker 1: a jury, because it takes a jury to the moment
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  Speaker 1: of the crime or the discovery of the crime. There
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  Speaker 1: is a forty thousand dollar reward to help solve the case.
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  Speaker 1: A faith hedge pass murder forty thousand dollars riding on
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  Speaker 1: this tipline eight six six four three nine two six
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  Speaker 1: eighty three repeat eight six six four three nine two
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  Speaker 1: six eight three. You want forty grand forty large eight
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  Speaker 1: six six four three nine two six eight three and
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  Speaker 1: the murder of this teen girl Faith Hedgepath. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I just learned a lot and Joseph's got morgam A
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  Speaker 1: nine one one call is worth its weight in gold
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  Speaker 1: because you hear so much of what's happening at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Did you hear her say I think she fell off
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  Speaker 1: the bed, Yeah, actually I did. And I also heard
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  Speaker 1: her say that there's blood everywhere. I don't know about
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  Speaker 1: every other person's experience about falling out of the bed.
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  Speaker 1: I've never experienced like tremendous blood flow when I fall
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  Speaker 1: out of a bed, and it's not just at the bed,
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  Speaker 1: it's everywhere, Nancy, as it's revealed later, there's blood on
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  Speaker 1: the wall, there's blood on the floor, or there's blood everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: How do you get that? Well, in this particular case,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like it was probably blunt force trauma, and
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  Speaker 1: that is a huge indicator here of what was going
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  Speaker 1: on in this room. What does it tell you that
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  Speaker 1: she's all to Cloyd Stiger, thirty six years, Seattle PD,
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  Speaker 1: twenty two years homicide and author Cloyd that she's tangled
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  Speaker 1: up in the comfort on her bed. Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: let me say something about the nine one one call
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  Speaker 1: and the color ID. She probably was calling on a
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  Speaker 1: cell phone, so they don't have a specific address, They
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  Speaker 1: just have the cell phone and that information. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that would tell me that she was on the bed
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  Speaker 1: probably when the assault began. It happened, and that's how
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  Speaker 1: she got all tangled up in the comfort. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what happened, but what we know
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  Speaker 1: right now it was a brutal attack, blood involved. This
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  Speaker 1: is not an asphyxiation such as smothering or strangulation, be
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  Speaker 1: at manual or ligature. This is either going to be
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  Speaker 1: blunt force trauma, shooting, stabbing. That's what we know right now.
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  Speaker 1: And Wendy Pattrick, California Prosecutor, you tried a lot of cases.
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  Speaker 1: You learn so much from practically every single sentence if
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  Speaker 1: you take the time to analyze it in a nine
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  Speaker 1: one one call, and I have seen gerars like myself
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  Speaker 1: transfixed when you hear that call. Why Wendy that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: right because it takes them back to the time of
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  Speaker 1: the crime. It's the closest point that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: get to the time of the crime. So that sound
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  Speaker 1: of the voice, what she sees. He kept saying, there's
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  Speaker 1: blood everywhere, sounds like an attack that was enraged if
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  Speaker 1: you have blood everywhere. And these are the kinds of
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  Speaker 1: details that not only stick with a jury, but to
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  Speaker 1: start a jury trial that way is so powerful because
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  Speaker 1: it really takes them back to where you want them,
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  Speaker 1: right at the beginning, as close as you can to
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  Speaker 1: the murder. And that young woman's voice on the telephone
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  Speaker 1: also is speaking volumes of evidence besides the words she's
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  Speaker 1: saying that will now give us an indication as to
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  Speaker 1: how do we start looking for who did it. One
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  Speaker 1: thing that is a great trial strategy tactic is to
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  Speaker 1: have a preliminary hearing with the judge and get that
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  Speaker 1: nine on one call ruled into evidence before you're closing arguments.
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  Speaker 1: Some judges don't want to do it, so you can
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  Speaker 1: play it in closing if you can't. It's a great
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  Speaker 1: way to kick off a trial. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about the brutal murder of a team girl
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  Speaker 1: and her off campus apartment at UNC Chapel Hill University,
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina. The roommate comes home to find her fate
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  Speaker 1: covered in blood, apparently having just fallen off the bed,
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  Speaker 1: now on the floor, twisted in a comforter. Blood everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: This is a college, do you know? Apartment complex? Who
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  Speaker 1: was up? Who heard something? He saw something? Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to a little bit more of that nine one
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  Speaker 1: one call. Listen carefully. She's not moving, okay, and will
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  Speaker 1: you touch her arm? Tell me does she how does
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  Speaker 1: she feels? Okay, ma'am. We need to find out if
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  Speaker 1: we can help her or not. You've got to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: do as I'm asking so we can help her. All right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you can lay her flat on her back, remove
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  Speaker 1: any pillows please, flat on her back, Flat on her back,
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  Speaker 1: remove any pillows. Okay, Okay, neel next her looking her
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  Speaker 1: mouth for food or vomit? Okay, Neil. Next, we're looking
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  Speaker 1: her mouth for food or vomo. Tell me something you
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  Speaker 1: can to What is your name? I'm sorry, I'm really okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, guys, let me go
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  Speaker 1: to Karen Stark on this UH. Psychologists joining me from
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  Speaker 1: New York. You can find Karen at Karen at stark
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Karen, what is it about humans? Many people?
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  Speaker 1: Not myself, but many people recoil at the sight of
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  Speaker 1: a dead body. They don't want to touch it. And
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  Speaker 1: you hear the roommates saying, over and never, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to touch her. What is that instinctive? What is that?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it is instinctive, Nancy. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: have we have some basic inherent instincts, and one of
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  Speaker 1: them is to not go near. Especially in our society,
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  Speaker 1: death is so shielded. You listen to this call, it's
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  Speaker 1: so distressing because you can tell that this girl is
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  Speaker 1: horrified and really doesn't want to approach the body. And
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  Speaker 1: it's so surprising to me that the person from the
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  Speaker 1: nine one one call keeps pushing her to do something
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  Speaker 1: when she's telling this woman there's blood all over and
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like she's dead, and moving the body is
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that you're told not to do. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm shocked at this response. You know I would be shocked,
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  Speaker 1: but I've seen it so many times. Joe Scott Morgan.
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  Speaker 1: I guess because I've seen and dealt with so many
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  Speaker 1: dead bodies. I no longer recoil, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that I ever did. But Joe Scott Morgan, death investigator,
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  Speaker 1: have you have you witnessed that people are afraid of
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  Speaker 1: dead bodies? They're afraid of them. Yeah, it's a primal
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  Speaker 1: response that people have. And keep in mind this young
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  Speaker 1: woman that has made this nine one one call. She's
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  Speaker 1: emotionally invested in this woman. She's she's had uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: meals with her, she studied with her, they've they've probably
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  Speaker 1: discussed intims of their life. So there, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: why she would recoil at this. This is not like
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  Speaker 1: this is just some straighter on the street. Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 1: right that the friendship between the two. Chloyd Steiger, you're
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  Speaker 1: thirty six years Seattle PD, twenty two of those on homicide.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever get to a point where you no
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  Speaker 1: longer recoil or tiny bit repulsed when you see a
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  Speaker 1: dead body? Some people are actually afraid, and cops too,
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  Speaker 1: not just civilians, cops too. They're actually afraid of a
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  Speaker 1: dead body like it's going to rise up and grab
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  Speaker 1: them by the throat. It's true, Chloyd, have you seen that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Well sure, I see. That's certainly not like Joe said,
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  Speaker 1: there have seen so many thousands that I don't even
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  Speaker 1: remember ever being recoiled by one. But but people who,
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  Speaker 1: the people who who come across this, especially a young
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  Speaker 1: girl of nineteen year old girl. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: kind of what you'd expect for her reaction to be.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me at all. I'm looking at a
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  Speaker 1: photo right now, a faith Hedgepath sitting it's almost in
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  Speaker 1: his lap, but she's on the arm. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: a lazy boy of a chair holding on to her dad,
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  Speaker 1: rolling Hedgepath the biggest smile. She's clearly a daddy's girl,
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  Speaker 1: loving her dad. Got her arms around him. Shortly after
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  Speaker 1: this photo, this young girl, this co ed found brutally murdered.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the first things I would do,
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  Speaker 1: aside from going straight to the scene and straight to
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  Speaker 1: the morgue, is listen over and over and over to
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  Speaker 1: that nine one one call. Listen, listen to me when
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  Speaker 1: you touched me? How does he feel? Does she feel warm? No? Cold?
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  Speaker 1: She feels cold? Okay, good, okay, all right, don't touch anything, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: don't touch anything. Okay. They're on their way. I've got
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  Speaker 1: police on the way to you, and I've got a
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  Speaker 1: stacknetted on the way. Okay, please, Okay, what room is she? Am?
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  Speaker 1: He's in my room? Okay, I want you to go
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  Speaker 1: back into the living room. Okay, I need to go
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  Speaker 1: and what's going And I'm like, okay listening that like
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  Speaker 1: was not here before. Okay, we're listening someone that came
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  Speaker 1: in here. Okay, Okay, it really does. I'm listening to
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  Speaker 1: the roommate and I'm feeling empathy with her right now.
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  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, I've been talking about a natural instinct to
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  Speaker 1: be recoiled or repulsed by dead body. But growing up
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  Speaker 1: as a little girl, you know, my mom, Elizabeth Um,
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  Speaker 1: played cello in the symphony. She's a classical pianist, and
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  Speaker 1: she's our church organiz to our little Methodist church. For years,
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  Speaker 1: I went to every funeral and wedding that was ever
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  Speaker 1: at a little Methodist church. So I had been to funerals,
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  Speaker 1: didn't really think too much of it, but I do
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  Speaker 1: remember when I don't remember ever seeing a dead body,
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  Speaker 1: such as in a casket. The first time I remember
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  Speaker 1: really seeing a dead body was in my fiancee Keith
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  Speaker 1: was murdered and got to the funeral home and at
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  Speaker 1: a distance I saw only a portion of his face,
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  Speaker 1: just a tiny bit above the casket, and passed out.
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  Speaker 1: I passed out, And to this day I remember coming
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  Speaker 1: to all I could smell or carnations, and to this
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  Speaker 1: day that smell just makes me sick. We are talking
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  Speaker 1: about the reaction of eight Hedgepath, a young coed roommate
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  Speaker 1: when she discovers Fate's body. So, Karen Stark, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I do get it. I said, I was never shocked
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  Speaker 1: by dead body, but I do remember the first time
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  Speaker 1: when I saw Keith's body, even a sliver of it,
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  Speaker 1: I actually passed out. Never again, but that time I did.
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  Speaker 1: I understand what she's going through. I think we all
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  Speaker 1: can empathize Nancy, and I do know the story about Keith,
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  Speaker 1: and it's something that's the kind of trauma that never
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  Speaker 1: leaves you. It can get better, but it stays because
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  Speaker 1: it's so shocking and it doesn't fit anything that you've
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  Speaker 1: experienced before. And I think about this young girl, and
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  Speaker 1: I think about you, because you were really young, having
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  Speaker 1: to confront her roommate, somebody that she loved and was
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  Speaker 1: so close to and being traumatized by the scene and
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  Speaker 1: the death, and knowing that it's not the way it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to look. So I get it. Yeah, I noticed
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  Speaker 1: what she said, even in her state of trauma. And
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  Speaker 1: she's alone in their apartment with a brutalized body. She says,
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  Speaker 1: the apartment is not the way we left at somebody
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  Speaker 1: has been in here. I'm gonna skip over the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the nimal one call. Go to ABCNS twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: reporter Ed Lopez. Listen. When police arrived, they see an
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  Speaker 1: empty bottle of rum. It was covered and blood, blood smudges.
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  Speaker 1: It was a brutal, brutal death. Did it seem like
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  Speaker 1: there was forced entry going into the apartment. No, there
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  Speaker 1: is no sign of forced entry seem it is also
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  Speaker 1: discovered on Fate's body. Investigators use it to generate a
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  Speaker 1: DNA profile. They're convinced that DNA belongs to the killer
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  Speaker 1: and that he may also have perpetrated a sexual assault.
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  Speaker 1: Is it more likely than not that she was raped? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. When police arrived, they seem
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  Speaker 1: an empty bottle of rum. It was covered and blood,
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  Speaker 1: blood smudges. It was a brutal brutal death. Did it
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  Speaker 1: seem like there was forced entry going into the apartment. No,
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  Speaker 1: there is no sign of forced entry. Seem it is
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  Speaker 1: also discovered on Fate's body. Investigators use it to generate
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  Speaker 1: a DNA profile. They're convinced that DNA belongs to the
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  Speaker 1: killer and that he may also have perpetrated a sexual assault.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't more likely than not that she was raped? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: in the search for Fate's killer, that DNA profile will
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  Speaker 1: become sort of a glass slipper. But who will fit it?
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  Speaker 1: So there you got somehow comparing semen on a dead
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  Speaker 1: body to Cinderella's glass slipper. But that aside, the point
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  Speaker 1: is well taken. Whoever left semen and raped this young
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  Speaker 1: co ed clearly is going to be the killer. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor and author, I've read flags. It
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  Speaker 1: can be argued by defense lawyer at trial. Well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: my client raped her, of course, said say she had
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  Speaker 1: consensual sex, which is not true. But what's the light?
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  Speaker 1: But he didn't kill her? I mean, how many times
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  Speaker 1: have you heard that? So he rapes her and then
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  Speaker 1: some other person comes on the scene and murders her.
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  Speaker 1: Highly unlikely, Wendy, Yeah, very unlikely. A jury's not going
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  Speaker 1: to buy that. But what's interesting about just as from
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  Speaker 1: a clinical perspective looking at the forensics rape plus murder,
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  Speaker 1: so you're looking for somebody that it almost seemed like
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  Speaker 1: was in a rage about something, So you start looking back.
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  Speaker 1: The roommates reaction is going to also be telling there
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  Speaker 1: because they probably knew each other's friends, They knew each
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  Speaker 1: other's ex boyfriends, they knew who might have been jealous about,
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  Speaker 1: who was dating who, So it becomes a little more
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  Speaker 1: relevant what the roommate did or didn't know. But the
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  Speaker 1: scene and found at the scene, Nancy, that is an
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  Speaker 1: enormous clue because now you're talking about narrowing down the
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  Speaker 1: potential pool of suspects based on somebody that had some
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  Speaker 1: kind of a relationship with her, perhaps perhaps to Nicole
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  Speaker 1: Parton Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, there was no
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  Speaker 1: sign of forced entry. That does not mean someone didn't
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  Speaker 1: come in an open door or window, Nicole, that's correct,
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  Speaker 1: And it is believed that someone did in fact come
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  Speaker 1: in the front door that was unlocked. Ah, So that
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: means it doesn't have to be someone that the girls
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: knew like a boyfriend or an X. Of course that's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: where you look first. But the fact that we believe
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: she kept her door unlocked, it could have been anybody
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: jiggling doors, going up and down the halls of the apartment,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: trying to get in. What about that idea Cloyd Stiger,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know when I read that when the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: roommate left to go with somebody, she left the front
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: door unlocked, I kind of raised a little red flag
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: for me. I mean, at three o'clock in the morning,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: there's a girl sleeping alone in there, you're going to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: leave the door unlock. Why wouldn't you lock it behind you?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Not to say that the route begetting to do with it,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but that's really odd unless someone else was expected to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: be there unlocked door. I mean, you know, I was
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: just right. You know, I've been working on a book,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Don't Be a Victim Finding Back against Amy's Crime Waves
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: about to come out. But I researched so many cases,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and I recall the red rapists that I prosecuted in Atlanta.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: We'll get in through open windows. People would not lock
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: their windows, and it was hot outside in Atlanta. Get
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: right in the number of open window, open door home
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: intrusions is insane. In this day and age, people still
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: are not locking their windows indoors. Take a listen to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: what else is found in the apartment on the murder scene.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: This is twenty twenties, ed Lopez. What was some of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the most important evidence that you collected from the bedroom.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: There was a biscuit bag that was from Timeout restaurant.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Timeout is very popular in Chapel Hill and it's immediately identifiable.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Faith had gone out the night before, stopped it time
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: out and brought food back to the apartment. But now
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that same bag contains five angry words. On the bag
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: was some writing that said, I'm not stupid, bitch jealous?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: What did you make of that? Obviously big evidentiary value.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: The note is found on the bed. It is written
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in pen. Police sable the note and the pen have
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the killer's DNA on it, so police believe he wrote it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But here's a puzzle. While the room is covered in blood,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the note is not. Police say. The cleanliness of the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: note suggests the killer's hands, once bloodied after using the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: bottle as a murder weapon, didn't flee immediately. Instead, he
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: may have taken his time to wash his hands and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: write that five word screed. Adding to the mystery. Police
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: can't say for sure who the note was left for
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: as to the intended target, or say about the note.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: There were two residents there, and it would make sense
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the note was left for one of them. Okay, that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: changes everything because when a random killer leaves the scene,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to get out there. But now the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: comforter wrapped around her as taking on more significance. Was
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: it used to try to cover up her body because
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the purp writes a note but it's not bloody. What
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: does that mean to you? Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: death investigator jump in. Heay, you listen, Nancy. Either the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: note could have been written after he washed his hands,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: or maybe if he was taking his time while she's sleeping,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: he writes a note down and then goes in attacks her.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of different scenarios that you can look
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: at here, But I think that wrapping her in the comforter,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: for me, is a very big clue because if her
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: face chat I don't think that it necessarily was, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: if her body is covered in any way, this can
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of symbolize a connection that killer may
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: have had with her, that he may have known her,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: which I think that this individual did before he beat
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: her to death with this bottle. There's a bottle that's
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: found there, a rather robust rum bottle that's kind of
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: thick glass. She's got multiple blunt force trauma and can
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you imagine she's attacked in the middle of the night
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: while she's sleeping. She's taken completely unawares, and to me,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it gives us an indication that she was attacked right there.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: She was attacked and kind of twisted up in those
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: comfort in the comforters she's laying there. She never had
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a shot at trying to get away from this guy
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that perpetrated this crime. And the fact that they did
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: found this seaman there at the scene is very significant
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: because this is a specific tie back to a specific individual.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: This is not like you just find his blood at
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the scene. This is in you know, he's involved in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a sexual connection with this individual. Now I don't know
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: how intimate it was as far as a pre existing relationship,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: but we know at that moment, Tom that he used
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: rape as a weapon of terror against her as he's
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: beating her to death. That's very significant what this note
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: says and has written on the back of a fast
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: food bag like a McDonald's bag. It says, quote, I'm
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: not stupid, bitch jealous Guy's a tipline in the Murderer
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: of this co ed one eight sixty six four three
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  Speaker 1: nine two six eighty three repeat eight sixty six four
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  Speaker 1: three nine two six eighty three. There's a forty thousand
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: dollar reward. Take a listen to our friend at twenty
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: twenty Ed Lopez. You're listening to a voicemail that came
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: from Faith's phone on the night of the murder to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: her friend Judah Chavis. It was probably unintentional, the rest
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of an accident we've all made. She's notorious for doing
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a bootdal phone call where she accidentally calls somebody with
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the phone in her pocket. So I just assumed that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: was what it was. If it sounds undecipherable to you,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you're not alone. But when we brought Roland into WTVD
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to tell us what he hears, he was unequivocal. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: hear screaming in the background. It's face boys, We're screaming,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Please get off me. Roland's assessment is simple. His daughter
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: is in grave danger. It's just my baby girl's voice,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and I know her voice. Oh my stars. The dad
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: rolling hitchpath listening to a pocket dial from her phone
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: obviously accidentally made. But I want you to listen to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: our brands at Crime Watch Daily Listen. Do you believe
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: what you're listening to here is faith being murdered? Yeah?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I do crime stories with Nancy Grace. Do you believe
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: what you're listening to here his faith being murdered? Yeah?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I do. There's a critical moment of this recording here
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: where and it's it's so difficult for me to read
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: out even the transcript to you, but there's the words
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think she's dying and do it anyhow? I feel
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: like faith being restrain at that point based on what
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing it. Okay, listening listening to that, do you
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: recognize faith voice? I know it's faith. I have no
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: no doubt. What's wro faith family cringing with every graphic,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: brutal detail. There's the phrase I can't believe you did it? Rosy, Well,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that statements? Impression is from
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that statement is that the female herself has done something
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: at that point. Two, Faith either has hit her in
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the head or whatever. To me, it sounds like free
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: against one. Wow. Our friends at crime watch Daily, Okay,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that's certainly a turn of events, Nicole parton crime online
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: dot Com. What are they saying? It's hard to tell.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: There have been a couple of different ideas of what's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: being said in this. One is I can't believe you
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: did it, Rosy, which some would imply was a direction
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to the roommate whose last name is Rosario. There's some
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: who's saying they can hear a clear out, but then
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: there's some people who say they hear music in the background,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: so they're wondering if that phone call took place while
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the girls were out earlier in the evening at a nightclub.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: This is what we know. We know that Fate worked
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: as a waitress living off campus, had gone back to
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: college that summer, changing her major, and was now studying
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to become an elementary school teacher. She shared an apartment
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: with Karina Rosario from New Jersey. We also know Rosario
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: had a boyfriend, a twenty one year old Koy Jones.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: That relationship had fallen apart, and before the murderer the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: two had to change the locks at the apartment because
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Jones had reportedly kicked their doors in Rosario had also
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: taken out a restraining order against her former boyfriend. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: want you to take a listen one more time to
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: crime Watch, Deli speaking to the hedgepaths. What do you think, Connie,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: she was being hurt, Adam e mad and afused. No matter,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: what is there to happen? What are your thoughts to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: this point, Chad? I just can't help but think about
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the Chopper Hill Police Department right now, and I wonder
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: what they've been doing for the past three years if
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it is what we're hearing. I mean, she's a she's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a very brave girl, right and of course she saw
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the bruises of her of course her Haynes was for
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: me recognisable. Despite three and a half long years, Faith's
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: family still holds out hope that this case will be
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: solved soon, and while we can't independently verify Arlow's analysis
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: of the recording, they are hoping the voicemail will lead
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: to the killer, or at least bring a witness forward
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to at last achieve justice for Faith need to be
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: able to move on. As recently as the last week's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Faith's family begging, begging for a resolution in their daughters murder.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: A brutal murder who murdered Faith Hedgepath. There's a forty
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars reward. The tipline is eight six six four
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: three nine two six eighty three. You can go to
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: crime online dot com and see a photo and read
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: more about Faith Hedgepath eight six six four three nine
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: two six eighty three. The family of the slang UNC
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: student desperate for answers in her murder. She would have
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: been the very first person in their family to graduate
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: from college. Faith was an honor student. She excelled in studies,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: even earned the Gates Millennium scholarship to attend University of
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: North Carolina Chapel Hill. She had considered becoming a pediatrician,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and while studying at Chapel Hill, decided to be an
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: elementary school teacher. Her dream of becoming a teacher or
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: a pediatrician came to an end when she was brutally
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: raped and murdered in her own apartment, and even now
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: police seem to be stymied. To Nicole parton crime online
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: dot com, what's the latest in the murder investigation? The
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: very latest is that. The police there say that they
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have interviewed over twelve hundred leads. They have ran DNA
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: tests on over one hundred men that had direct relation
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to these girls, whether it be text messages, people they
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: had met online. They have ran down every path possible.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Still that ind but the search continues. You know, to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, not only was she an honor student
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: all a's, she was a cheerleader in all sorts of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: extracurricular clubs and organizations. And the reason I say that
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: is not because her life is more valuable than somebody
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: else's life, but it tells me if she's that dedicated,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: she's not drugging and boozing and clubbing all night. She
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: was at home in bed when this happened to her.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: That narrows my pool of killers. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You know, UNC is for this environment to be in academically,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and so you have to be committed there as a student,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and she obviously was. So yeah, she's not out in
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the periphery engaging with people. But you have to go
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: back and look at the people she may have had
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: contact with. Obviously we have the roommate and any kind
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of associated people that they bring into her orbit. And
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: also this waitressing job that she had, who could she
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: have come in contact with there exactly. I'm just going
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to ask Steiger about that. Cloyd Steiger, she was a
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: waitress at the very popular Red Robin restaurant. That opens
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: up another pool of suspects. Yeah, it could be somebody
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that became obsessed with her that she didn't necessarily really know.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: But maybe she's seen the regular customer and for whatever reason,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: maybe he asked her out and she spurned him or
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: said no, and he's built this up. You're just never know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and that's a very vulnerable thing. And let the young
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: people go to Red Robin, people around her age, that'd
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: be something you'd look at about that voicemail, though, I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: wanted to mention they should have a time stamp on
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that voicemail that tells him what time it was received,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: so that would if it was at the club, they
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: should know that. I don't understand. Now there's a question. Yeah.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Another issue is she had just come back that evening
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: from a shift waitressing at Red Robin. Did someone follow
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: her home? The family desperate for answers tipline eight six
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: six four three nine to six eighty three, there's a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: forty thousand dollar reboard. We Wait as Justice and fools
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Fancy Grace crime story, signing off goodbye friend,