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S2 #6 Paradise Finale · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio everybody. This is the final episode for
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise this season. I'm Ben and I'm Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: and we are very excited during the day, but we
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  Speaker 1: are also very excited about our first guest. We have
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  Speaker 1: a rock star on the line calling in who has
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  Speaker 1: made a huge name for herself, not only on The
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor with Nick, but in Bachelor in Paradise. She's part
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  Speaker 1: of the love triangle. Christina is on the line today.
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  Speaker 1: I am very excited for Christina. I've texted her a
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  Speaker 1: little bit throughout this season. She actually said the sweetest
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  Speaker 1: thing to me last week. She said, like, through this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: I've been able to describe a lot of the feelings
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  Speaker 1: that she has had throughout the season that she couldn't
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  Speaker 1: really rebalize herself. So that was nice. She's a listener, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's really I know. So people
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  Speaker 1: on the show are listening to our podcast. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: makes me feel good that I've been able to articulate
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  Speaker 1: some of the frustration she must have had watching it
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  Speaker 1: back and being there and all that. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: actually you are I don't know if you want to
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  Speaker 1: be called this out. You kind of are an expert,
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  Speaker 1: and um, you know, not the expert in Paradise, but you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm continue to read these the social media response to
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  Speaker 1: our our podcast, and I feel like every woman out
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  Speaker 1: there continues to say Ashley says, um, the things that
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  Speaker 1: I either don't know how to say or verbalize, the
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  Speaker 1: feelings that I don't know how to verbalize. So I
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  Speaker 1: guess all those women out there and men as well
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  Speaker 1: as to watch the show, you are kind of speaking
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  Speaker 1: for them. So uh, nice job. Well thanks, That's it's
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  Speaker 1: so nice to hear, because sometimes I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm not tough enough, you know how last week we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about tough love, and I don't at all. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just always saying like, oh, I feel bad for her
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  Speaker 1: because of this and for that, and I never blame
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  Speaker 1: anybody's behavior. Maybe it's because I just know how girls
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  Speaker 1: really act in these situations and you know, and just
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  Speaker 1: show it, you know, don't try to hide it. And
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  Speaker 1: if I don't know, because that's I never hit anything
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  Speaker 1: on Paradise. So finale, let's talk about this, ben Um.
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  Speaker 1: It was the most sped up finale of all time,
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  Speaker 1: I think after watching last week's episode, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, you're telling me they're going to wrap
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing up in two hours, and they really
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  Speaker 1: just breathed through it. Um. We had Christan and jack
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  Speaker 1: Stone break up in the beginning, and it was funny
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  Speaker 1: because obviously Jack like planned, he was talking about marrying
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  Speaker 1: her and then she was like, a second, I don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to call you my boyfriend, which kind of
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  Speaker 1: like was if you know how last week she came
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  Speaker 1: on here and she said, oh, I'm not really even
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  Speaker 1: that attractive to any of those guys that basically came through. Well,
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  Speaker 1: but Jack Stone thing is weird to me. Um, the
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  Speaker 1: whole kind of station didn't make sense, Like I felt
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  Speaker 1: like in that situation, Jack was in the right. All
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  Speaker 1: he was saying was are you in the me or not?
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  Speaker 1: And she kept trying to push it to be something
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. I just think she should have been more
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  Speaker 1: honest and said Jack, I'm not into you. This isn't
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  Speaker 1: gonna work in any circumstance. But I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: if I'm willing to be a friend right now. This
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  Speaker 1: whole situation is crazy. Yes, she called them in a
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  Speaker 1: quate they're communicating. Yeah. Um, but then again, I guess
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  Speaker 1: you can question if you weren't really into him, then
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  Speaker 1: why are you still there? And just the answer to
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  Speaker 1: that question is always like, well I like to be
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  Speaker 1: on TV. Well, the thing is, we know it and
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  Speaker 1: and I've I brought it up a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: But the weirdest thing about Paradise to me is this
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  Speaker 1: like pursuit of a rose. Everybody's like every week people
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  Speaker 1: are stuffling around and if if they're single, they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out who they're going to hit on that
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  Speaker 1: night to get the rose. And I think we we
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  Speaker 1: we saw this week there's this weird dynamic going on
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  Speaker 1: in Paradise. I get it. People are responding to the
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  Speaker 1: finale and saying this wasn't what I expect if this
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  Speaker 1: season wasn't as good as past seasons. Um, but we
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  Speaker 1: do have to take a step back and and say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: for a disrupted bats in Paradise right that this wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the typical format. It was russ they were, they were
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  Speaker 1: there less for a lot less amount of time. We
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  Speaker 1: got something right. We we got love, we found some
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  Speaker 1: people found love. We had some drama, we had storylines.
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  Speaker 1: We got tears. Like when I watched Bachelor and Paradise
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  Speaker 1: what I watch it for, we got in a very
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  Speaker 1: certain season. So I think we should give um the
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  Speaker 1: cast credit for going out and really trying hard to
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  Speaker 1: pursue something, and also the show credit for putting on
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  Speaker 1: a season UM that I would say was decent, but
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  Speaker 1: at least they got something out there. I love Lazy
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  Speaker 1: and the Canadian guy Daniel, who I went on a
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  Speaker 1: date with one and uh, yeah, that guy sucks. I
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  Speaker 1: can't always talk to him later in the day because
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  Speaker 1: normally I don't think Daniel sucks. I usually just think
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  Speaker 1: he's a weirdo. But after last night's episode, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel yours. Well, that's the thing is I brought this
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  Speaker 1: up and and hopefully we'll build to ask Daniel uh
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  Speaker 1: some questions later on in the podcast that we do
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  Speaker 1: have Daniel online on air, but yeah, and I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait for him to respond to um Lacey's comments about
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they had like hung out all year long,
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  Speaker 1: or at least that they hung out once they hooked
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  Speaker 1: up and then they texted throughout the year. Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing, is he almost he just he kind of
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  Speaker 1: Power played it when he came on this show this time.
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  Speaker 1: I think he walked in. He was so confident. He
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  Speaker 1: made some crazy comments about women about sex, and then he,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he meets up with Lacey and they have
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  Speaker 1: this kind of I guess explosion of love, um nos
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  Speaker 1: our explosion of love. Remember she she thought that she
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  Speaker 1: was going on a date with him, and he goes,
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  Speaker 1: how why are you assuming this? You have to work
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  Speaker 1: for it. I still have other women here to talk to. Look, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I get it, But I mean I remember an episode
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  Speaker 1: before that when she was saying her perfect man was Daniel.
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  Speaker 1: I feel bad? Do you mean I feel bad for
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  Speaker 1: her taste in men if her ideal is Daniel? As
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  Speaker 1: he knows that that's a good point. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: got to ask about this because it really is. He
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  Speaker 1: I think he means well, and I think he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to be funny, and I would love to just get
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  Speaker 1: to the bottom of Daniel, like why is why? Why? Sex?
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  Speaker 1: Jokes and comments about your penis the thing that you
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  Speaker 1: seem to want to always communicate like that. That gets
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  Speaker 1: old after a while, and and it isn't witty or funny.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know why he feels like that's appropriate
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  Speaker 1: because that's just not something that I could see that
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  Speaker 1: that I would be okay with. All right, Yeah, well
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  Speaker 1: I cannot wait to talk to Daniel after we talk
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  Speaker 1: Hi guys, how are you you know? We were very
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  Speaker 1: very happy to have you on to day. You a
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  Speaker 1: rock star in Bachelor Nation and we've never been able
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  Speaker 1: to meet in person, um, but i've I've watched you
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  Speaker 1: from afar. I respect you for what you stand for,
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  Speaker 1: and thank you for coming on Almost Famous podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I have been Team Christina since
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  Speaker 1: before I even met you, and I met you only
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  Speaker 1: briefly at Jade's baby shower, and I just got the
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  Speaker 1: best sweetest vibes from you. And I just remember telling
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  Speaker 1: Dean and Tahoe that weekend before I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I think I'm gonna beat Team Christina. She
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  Speaker 1: seems like she's kind of living experience in paradise that
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  Speaker 1: I can strongly relate to. So it was interesting to
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  Speaker 1: watch your story unfold. Hey, what's from you too? I
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel always have cried that much, but I can
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  Speaker 1: relate see on that you cry a lot prettier than
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  Speaker 1: I do, for sure. Oh no, oh no, I'm like
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  Speaker 1: I remember when Alexas turned around back when we were
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  Speaker 1: on the Bachelor, and I was like, I need to
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  Speaker 1: do that, and I think I tried once, but I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm attention again. So lately taught me, Christina that
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  Speaker 1: there is this trick for females on the show that
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  Speaker 1: they need waterproof makeup so when you cry, you don't
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  Speaker 1: look like a raccoon. And I don't remember one moment
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  Speaker 1: in the show that you were crying that your makeup
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  Speaker 1: wasn't still intact. So congratulations, you succeeded on the innovation
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  Speaker 1: that I've I've learned about here recently. Yes, well, thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much. Water that's coming ahead. Christ You know,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to the serious stuff for a minute. Oh god,
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  Speaker 1: it's totally Sometimes sometimes it can be different when you're
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  Speaker 1: living it and then you watch it back. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: see things that you never saw you, especially see interviews
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  Speaker 1: and like confessionals of people's feelings that can change a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the way you view your own story. So
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  Speaker 1: how did you feel watching back the the episodes this
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  Speaker 1: past summer. Well, you know, look, it was actually um
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  Speaker 1: always seen it for the first time as well, so
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  Speaker 1: like seeing their interaction and like their chemistry the romans,
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of like, oh, like I was there,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't see any of it. So whenever I
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  Speaker 1: think after the poor incident the next morning and Robbie
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  Speaker 1: was telling Dean about what went down, and Dan was
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  Speaker 1: caught off guard. She was like, which, she was there,
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  Speaker 1: she saw this, so like in my mind, I was like, great,
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  Speaker 1: was she trying to hide it from me this whole time? So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I was believing that Dan and I had something,
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  Speaker 1: but I was not seeing that he also had something
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  Speaker 1: with the Neil until watching it back. Well, from my
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  Speaker 1: point of view, maybe I'm a little biased, but if
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  Speaker 1: I were you watching it back, I would think I
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  Speaker 1: think he just had a physical attraction to Danielle. I
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  Speaker 1: don't see this being emotionally deep. Is that how you felt?
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  Speaker 1: And did that make you feel better or worse? Um,
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  Speaker 1: whenever you have an emotional connection with some one, that's
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  Speaker 1: always kind of like in a way. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if from the season, the world probably threatening because like
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  Speaker 1: that's how people tend to stay together, because physical attraction comes,
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  Speaker 1: it goes. But I think intellectual emotional is what spays.
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  Speaker 1: So if I were seeing that while I was sterotized,
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  Speaker 1: I would be a little bit more worried. But at
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  Speaker 1: the time I thought it might be just physical attraction.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've known Danielle since uh. I guess Actually, Limma,
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  Speaker 1: right after the Bachelor mansion. She was in my lima
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  Speaker 1: and spending that time with her in the Bachelor mansion,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't believe get to know her really well. But
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  Speaker 1: obviously she's beautiful. So now I'm hearing Dean said that
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  Speaker 1: there was more than just physical attraction. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going on the ranch here now. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: continue to rant. We love it. But so you're saying
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  Speaker 1: that you really were never friends with Danielle, even though
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  Speaker 1: you guys both got to like top ten, top seven,
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  Speaker 1: really on next season, you just never were chummy. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't there some I would test too on the
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  Speaker 1: daily like A would with other girls, but she were family,
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  Speaker 1: would comment on social media posts. I know we've spent
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  Speaker 1: a weekend Vegas before that, So I mean I considered
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  Speaker 1: her friend more than a quaintance right now, like the
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  Speaker 1: best friend. You've had to hang out with her a
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  Speaker 1: lot since um the whole Paradise thing wrapped, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: throughout August, even at Jade's baby shower, I had to.
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  Speaker 1: I was I was kind of like spraying on your
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  Speaker 1: guy's interaction because you know, you're sitting around the same table.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't talking. But there also seemed to not be
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  Speaker 1: a totally hustle situation going on. So how have you
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  Speaker 1: dealt with having to be so many places with her?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at some point it was Raising's birthday, I
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  Speaker 1: think towards the band of July, and I spend like
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  Speaker 1: forty five forty five twenty four hours with then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and we just who are having um brunched together and
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  Speaker 1: all of that and shopping and it's like, we know
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  Speaker 1: they discomfort. The awkwardness is there, but neither of us
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  Speaker 1: the same and thing. So I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: wish now that I have said something or not, but
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  Speaker 1: it is what it is now. So you guys did
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  Speaker 1: Ellen again? You guys did Ellen as a threesome yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about how awkward that was. The bi language
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  Speaker 1: seemed a little off. Oh yes, yes, so like I
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  Speaker 1: mean just spitting up part it was. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: I get awkward, but at the same time, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I always talk with so let's make the most most
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  Speaker 1: of it is you know, being on Allen lighthearted, it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the months that I tried to have and
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  Speaker 1: I know she um, she wouldn't make it super awkward
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  Speaker 1: for us at least, I didn't think, but we had
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  Speaker 1: we had the reunion show before that, so that helped. Um.
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  Speaker 1: If I was seeing all of them for the first
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  Speaker 1: time on the Allen Show, oh boy, super awkward. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing because you know, like you show up
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  Speaker 1: to Ellen and what we don't get to see behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes is exactly where the relationship is. Atto, So
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  Speaker 1: are you friends with Danielle currently? Are you friends with Bean? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Where do those relationships staying today? Um? I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the last time I've spoken to Danielle was
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  Speaker 1: on the l and Show. I think I've talked to
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  Speaker 1: being them. So just I don't have anything against Danielle. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's awkward, but I know we'll be hangout in the
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  Speaker 1: same circles in the future and we'll just have to
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  Speaker 1: get all good to be honest. Um, same thing I
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  Speaker 1: guess with Dean. I just think, I mean, we are
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  Speaker 1: young and we are learning, and I know both of
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  Speaker 1: them are getting a little backlash, not a little, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of backlash and social media. I mean things for
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  Speaker 1: me hen there, but not as much. And uh like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to burn all my bridges and just
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  Speaker 1: be upset with them and they paid it like that.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to write a little bit above and
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  Speaker 1: continue talking to those individuals than Neil, Undine, how do
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  Speaker 1: you feel yesterday when you heard Dean say that he
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  Speaker 1: loved you? Ah? Well, to be honest, I think he
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  Speaker 1: may have said something like that prior to giving me
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  Speaker 1: a road um one of the guys to give it
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  Speaker 1: out the roses. So I kind of newer hough stood
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and that's why partially, like I stuck around to see,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: like do you mean that that you feel it? And
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are like, hey, why
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: does the continue just leave? It was for those reasons,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: because I thought I knew how he felt about me.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: For hearing it again, it was it was it kind
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: of notted my heart just a little bit a mess.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like why now now?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It's like so much has happened since and it's always
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: to be to realize it too. Way. Does that make
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you feel like I'm gonna pick up my and and
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: call him in try to rekindle this. Well, not necessarily
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: as I just jumped right back in it. I mean, Christine,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and I have to ask you and then I don't
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: know if this will make sense. But you know I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: am friends with Dean. I like Dean. I have made
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that clear. I don't know Danielle at all. Um, But
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: as I'm watching with all respect all of you, but
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I'm watching Batch and Fair, it seems like an emotional
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: roller coaster for me watching it, I wonder, just from
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: your perspective, was it as like up and down, twisted
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and twisty in turning the whole time for you while
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you're in it, or just like you know Being. I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: guess what I'm trying to say is Dean last night
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: saying he loved you again to me just kind of like,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: what the heck are you doing? Man? Like you're pulling
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: people back into it when you've already let him go.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Like was this an emotional roller coaster for you? I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: would say not as emotional as watching it. Back when
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I was, I was in the moment, it was just
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a relationship between myself and Being. I wasn't focused on
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: anyone around me really because I was trying to figure
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: out for myself and what am I doing with this?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So Um, there were days where he, like when he
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: asked for his space, I would give it to him,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: but I would find that like you're asking for your space,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: but you're just completely like taking in just not talking
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to me. So I was confused. But whenever I would
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: have conversations with me, it was like reassuring in a way.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So I was I wasn't as emotional, and I think
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the cast can back me up on this throughout these days.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It's when I was getting to the end of that
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: room Paradise, things started to kind of go a little
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: crazy and emotions were running high, and that's when I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: think I got emotional and I just had to That's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: when you had your argument, Raven, and she was kind
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of showing out some tough love to you, saying that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you know he's not into it, he's not into it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: You need to give it up. You gotta go right. Yes,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I feel that conversation that I was approaching Raven to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: just like talk to her and how her and Adam
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: were doing, and I just escalated quickly to be so
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: um at that point. Look, I heard what she was saying,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and I already had those things in the back of
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: my mind, like I should not have to put up
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: with someone who's um not willing to canna give their
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: all to me, Like those things are a wading in
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the back of my mind. It's just harsh to hear
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: from a friend who says they're my friend by having
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: been there for me. Christina, you knew Raven was right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You just were like, really, I'm already down. Do you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: have to like yell at me and keep saying what
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I already know? Like you're not telling me something new,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: just like I don't need to hear it from my
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: friend right now. I need somebody who's just gonna listen
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to me and be sensitive. That's exactly how I felt,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to be honest, like I knew what she was already saying,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: because she wasn't the firstman to say that. It was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just I was holding out, holding out some hope. But
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I do, I think way of trying, because at that
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: point I was like, what do I even do because
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that pool scenario, like I literally had no one. I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: had Bobby nothing. Yes, Robbie, she was very she was
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: fantastic throughout, but you also had welles Well seemed really
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: sweet to you at the bar. He was able to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: deliver the same advice but with sensitivity. Yes, yes, absolutely,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and well when I had a lot of chats and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I think at some point I even came up to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: him and I said, Hey, well, you've been in these
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: shoes before, Like, how would you approach the whole situation? Um,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: he told me, like he came on later on and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: how he's done things and what she regretted if you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: didn't like if he regretted anything. So he was a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: very good person to talk to about it at all.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about that instagram that Dean posted last
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: week with the caption You're out of my league? He
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: clarified this week. We had this whole discussion last week
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about like the term out of my league, right, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: what that really means, especially coming from a guy who
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is basically dumped you. But he said, it's a little
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: secret inside thing between you two. Can you explain. Um,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it's a song that I think we're both like, Um,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: what is it? Adam my league by? It's a detention,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I think, so, I mean, hey, it's a kid's photo
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: with that kids during the break when shutdown happened. But
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: do you want me to clarify what I thinking? Man By? Yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: what was going through? Um, I don't know that he
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: really feels like I was out of his league, although
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I don't worry. I don't want to be like, I'm
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: this better so where like no one is good enough
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on me, because that's not true, you know. I mean
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the whole situation Becausina is pretty hard to watch. Is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of motion in play here, right. You
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: have been trying to figure himself out, and he has
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: two wonderful people that he's kind of falling for. You're
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: getting spit out of it, right, Like you just said,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you felt alone most of the time. And my question
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to you is, what did you learn looking back on
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: this whole process? I mean, even today, after seeing last
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: night's episode and seeing the finale kind of play out,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: what have you learned about yourself? What have you learned
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: about this process? Um? To day, I think, but we
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: always want to hear what we want to hear, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you don't have to listen to what people are actually saying.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And I think in those moments, I was like hanging
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: on on all the positive things being was staying I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: should have like skin it a little bit more clearly
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that she was truly like investing his time in someone else,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and I should have let that happen. In that case, Um,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I definitely learned not to guess hang around as long
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: as I did, But I mean I learned. Um, Christina,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: speaking speaking of learning lessons and moving on with you,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: ever be the next bachelorette? If asked, it's asked to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: be the next bachelor, I would have to probably consider
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: when the time comes to it, because again I'm watching
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Paradise. It was, um a lot of emotion and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: just it's kind of it's hard to see yourself that emotional. Um,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I I don't know. I think when the opportunity puts
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: them toselfer with us, I'll consider it them. But from
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: now on I have to kind of like learn from
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and move on from that. So but
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: bacheloret is man until what is the march? Yeah, no,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: there's a new couple woman are coming in. So that's right.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And speaking of that, the closest Christina, what are your
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: thoughts and already be the next? Back to um? You
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: know coming? Do you know something we don't? Okay? So
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: now I don't know our personally, but from the stuff
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I've heard and um, I mean whatever is out there
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: on social media. I know I don't believe everything social
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: media uh says. But whenever you have the truous conversations
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that prove it's hard not to. Um. Almost seems like
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a lasting decision. But maybe he is ready for love
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and for marriage and that commitment. So I wish him
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the best. Do you think it's just a fallback choice? Um?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Because honestly, nobody even thought of him in the running,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So just where did all it come from? Um? It's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: hard not to just think about them. But UM, I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: hope he is a good choice. And I think you're problem.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I haven't thought too
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: so much about it. Are you attracted to him? I'm
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: not attracted. Sorry. My passion comes from knowing people like
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you can be pretty on the outside and all of that,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but my attraction really comes from non person and what
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: he stands for. So that's a great answer. I mean,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: that is a great answer. And and two people that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: really got to know each other, but obviously not well enough. Christine,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I do have to hear your thoughts. What about the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Robbie and Amanda situation. You're sitting in that room with him,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: You were there, you had an up close and personal
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: seat to this whole thing. Miss feud is getting wacky.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts today on it. Okay, So Amanda and Robbie,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I kind of I was there throughout the whole progression
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of their relationship in Paradise, and rob and I had
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: many conversations, and I do think she has a good
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: heart and eventually she does want that committed relationships, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he just hasn't found the right girl, I guess. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Amanda sweet in her own way, and she wants that too.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It's just, um, I don't think Robbie should have called
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Amanda his girlfriend and gone to Colorado and those pictures
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to be out. Um. There's always room for interpretation when
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: it comes to pictures. But whenever you're that close to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: another female and you have a girlfriend, that's just not acceptable.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whether you're making out or being that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: close to another female. When you have a girlfriend, that's no,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that's not for me exactly. I guess it's kind of
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: crazy because that's the real world. But yet you had
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the same thing that happened to you in Paradise, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I just can't imagine how difficult that is, um. And
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: then to come out and have to talk about it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: all the time people like Ashley and I I'm sorry
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that you have to do that, but we like hearing
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: from you, so thank you for coming on to almost
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: famous podcast and talking to us about this crazy world
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that we all kind of live in. Well, thank you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: guys for having me. And I'm kind of trying to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: answer the question to the best of my ability, but
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it's just still so fresh, kind of both reunion and all. So,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: but yeah, you're a special and Christina, thank you so much.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Okay, it like we take it so serious,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: but it's hard not to take take things serious. And
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you talk to somebody like that because they have such
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a big heart and you can tell that she really
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: invested herself into this. And the whole time I'm sitting
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: here listening to her and I'm just like, my, you
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: just gotta love that girl. She she cares so much.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: You can tell you guys, let's create a hashtag Ben
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and Christina. That'll be oh my gosh. But you guys,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I think Ben might like Christina. Let's couple them up,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: them up, you know, I think Christy. I mean, honestly,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: what isn't he like about it? Like, from any perspective,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I sit here and I watch her and she's obviously
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: beautiful and I listened to her and she cares and so, yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you know what, I think she's amazing. I don't know
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: from I don't I've never met her in person, but
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: we can start the aztec if you like. Um. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just for bed kind, A giant step for bed kind.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: You're ridiculous, all right. Actually you have something to talk
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: about and it's not Christina and I, so please move on.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's so flustered that he can't even
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: transition into the Zola ad like he usually does. So
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I will let him have his blushing moments and I
• 29:27
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• 29:29
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• 29:33
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• 29:41
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• 29:48
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• 29:51
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• 30:11
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• 30:14
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• 30:17
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• 30:21
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• 30:24
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• 30:28
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• 30:34
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• 30:43
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• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You know, there's one thing as I'm reading through um
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: our Zola um spot, and there's one thing that always
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: stands out to me that makes me want to purchase
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Dola just for the heck of it, Because I hate
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: thank you notes. I love thinking people. I mean, I
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: guess I don't love thinking people. When they do something
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: nice easy to thank them, but thank you notes are
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: my worst enemy, their tedious, their time consuming. My hand
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: hurt after writing them. So Zola offers an easier way
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to thank you notes. I'm in let's do it so funny.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: My mom still like it's Christmas time, So write out
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a list of people I need to send thank you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: notes too. When does that stop? Dirty? It's terrible? Why
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: can't you just text them? Um? Actually, you got me
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: all fluctored and I didn't know how to react. I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: apologize for being off my eight game there, but you
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you just say things sometimes that makes me giggle. So um,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta keep moving forward. Here. We have
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a really great episode for you with some really special
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: guests today, and one of them is one of the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: most controversial characters in Paradise, one that I have a
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: lot of tough questions for. Um. I don't dislike this man,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: but I dislike some of the comments he makes. Daniel
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: in the Canadian you're out there. We got some tough
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: questions throughout you. Are you ready? I am ready? Yeah?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: How's it going? Oh my goodness, Daniel. Daniel, you are
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: on my other podcast recently talking about your favorite topic sex.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Um um are you talking about on the show? Yeah? Um,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I think but you as you know, we've both been
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: on some TV shows. Um, kind of like with Dan
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and his dog. That's kind of editing. Um. I don't
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: really talk about my at all really, I mean maybe
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a minute a day, you know sort of thing. Um,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: but that means said, uh, you know, sex is a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: big thing in life, and I think a lot of
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: people shy away from minute. Um, sex is great, why
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: not talk about it. I'm pretty open about it. I'm
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a sexual person. But uh, yeah, I know when I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: was when I was watching this season, and uh I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: saw something like the parts of me, I'm just like,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: oh god, they should like bring the ship like using
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: an upright. You know. It's funny how like I've always
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I talked about my dad once in a while,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and I've never out of any shows I've been on,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: never have have they ever brought up me talking with
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: my dad being in a wheelchair and uh, you know
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: what that's bought on for me and my family and
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: how you know, I've looked atter. Never ever have they
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: edit aired that. You know, it just goes back to editing,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: which I'm okay with. I don't care, I know I
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: know how that how they you know, do shows and whatnot,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and I know how they want to portray me. That's
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: why I kind of play it up. But uh yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I know I don't really care about you know, that
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. Speaking of the same with their crying,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: they kind of played up as well, Like, you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: it's not like your crying twenty four hours a day
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. It's kind of you know, the editing
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: sort of thing, right. I don't know, you were there
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: in Paradise last year. I cried pretty much seven last
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I don't know, I've I've seen it
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: once maybe, But was the awkwardness last night because of editing?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Like on the couch? Yeah? Um yeah, So when I
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: want to, I had a feature percent chance. I thought
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: about figure percent chance. Who's gonna bring it up? And
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I told her before and I'm like, yeah, you can,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you can bring it. You can't say that you could,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you know, say what you know, do what you do,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like you could do whatever you want. I really don't care,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: but you know it's gonna I mean, it depends on
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: how they added it. You know. It's really kind of
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: up to them. But I really don't care. You know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: we talked the long story short if you're on the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: long story, No, no, no, we want the long story. Okay, yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: let's go because I got time. Okay, we do the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: moment you met to the moment you started coupling up
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: with her in Paradise. Okay. So we met last year
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: at Vine's birthday party. It was like last October. We
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: met for the day or the night, and she said, then,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: it's funny, she said that we hooked up. The only
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: thing we've ever done is kissed. We've done nothing else
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: but kiss um, so that's one thing. Um. So, yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: we met last year. We had we had a good time,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and uh we stayed in contact a little bit at
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the beginning or a bunch of the beginning, but then
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you know how, like anything, kind of things fade off
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: because you know, she lives in New York and love
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: in Vankpuver, so you know, it's kind of not she
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: was dating people, dating people, but it wasn't like like
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: we're anything, you know, just we're just kind of friends.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: And we stayed in touch. And then as we Paradise
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: came up for we're like, okay, well, you know, I
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: figured let's get back in touch. Because as a possibility
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: we might, you know, running to each other on Paradise,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and so we talked more and we're gonna to know
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: each other more, and we skiped a couple of times
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and everything was cool, and yeah, I like her and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: she's an awesome girl. She's a smart girl, she has
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a big heart, and uh so we got along. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: then the second time I saw her was that Paradise,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and so I went there hoping that she was gonna
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: be there, and she was and I had a good
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: time with her. You know, I could have when I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: got there, I had the rose I could have given
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to anyone. I could have give to any girl, but
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I liked the lacing the most, and so
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I gave it to her, and then she gave me
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: her rose, and again it was funny, like I remember
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: when the girls had the rose power that the second
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: time around, I think Jazz And was like flirting with me.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing? A like I think
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I just got back from like the wrestling dates, and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I was just like, don't you know, I'm kind of
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: like with Lacey and like, so what I'm saying is
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like I think I'm pretty sure because I got a
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: roads from me someone else. I'm not trying to be cocky,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: but like, I don't think it would have been impossible.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: But so anyways, Um, then, so I was there for
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: five days, as you know, like things are short, So
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I was only there for five days, and yeah, my
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: feelings were for pretty good. But I knew I had
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a feeling that, yeah, she liked me more. You know,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: everyone kind knew that she liked me a lot. She
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: was waiting for me and whatnot. Um, and so yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: we went to the Fantasist Street or Christals like going
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: over the Finances Street. I'm like, yeah, of course, I mean,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: who doesn't want to go to a nice air conditioning
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: dollar room, you know that spending extra a couple of
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: days in Paradise. And also because I was only there
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: for a fourth had only been there for four days,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: so I wanted to spend more time with Lacey and uh,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I get to hang out and whatnot. So um, yeah,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: we had there's no sex, so I mean that's I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's some rumors that we had sex,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: but no sex. We we have a talk and whatnot.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: And then as for like the whole like I said this,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and then when the cameras are off. I said that, Well,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: first off says you guys both know when the cameras
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: are honest, like sometimes it's hard, like you know, you
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: kind of in the moment and you're kind of getting
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: caught up and stuff. And I, you know, when I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: said us phone for like, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: falling in love. I never ever said those words both
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: falling for us. The end, I started to like her
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: a lot um and she's but I don't even know
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: when she said she I love you. She never said
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: that into my faith. She said that off camera. So
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: when I was watching this past this season she said,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I didn't know that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I knew she liked him lot, but I didn't never
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: knew she was loved me. So that was that was
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: all new to me. And then we um then when
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the cameras went away, and you know, the next morning,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like thinking about it more because we then we
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: spent so that that was like it was a Tuesday
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: night we we did. We hung out like a space week,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and then we also spend all Wednesday together and Wednesday night,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know, if they we're on like days basically six
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: or seven now hanging out and we can know each
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: other more and whatnot. And then and then things were
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: more realistic, and you know, maybe I should have been
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: more relixtis before, but you know, I was getting I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: was all caught up in it, and I was kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of said to her, like, listen, you know I live
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: in Vancouver, you live in New York, and let's be realistic.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I still want to see you. And uh, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I still you know, would be jealous and not be
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: happy if you know, you were hooking up some guy.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: And I was like, up some girl, but I was
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: hesitant to label us as you know, boyfriend girlfriend. And
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: when I joke down, you know, changing the Facebook status things, now,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what it was like, more of a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: joke because I know a lot of people joke all
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing on social media, what notot um. Anyway,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So then after that he was part of the ways
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and we're on good terms. And she went to New
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: York now into Vancouver, and I told her how I'm
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: coming to do New York to do media for Matchmaker
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and Paradise and stuff I saw. I was there first
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: six nights, and um, I told her the very first
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: night that I was going to hit me and vine
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Hunt an appearance in a nightclub. And I said to her, like, yeah,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I come along. You could come, but as you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: these pariences like I can't be making Hope late and
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I can't be holding hands there. I gotta be like
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: chick chatting with the girls. And you know, it's kind
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of like a job in the sense I could be
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: friendly and hang out everyone and take pictures and whatnot.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And so she didn't like that, obviously because she thought
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I was just pushing her side. But again, I can't
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: be doing that. You know. It's like I've done a
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: lot of these appearances where you show up and you know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you you have pictures after pictures, and again, you can't
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: have a girl hanging your girlfriend hanging off you. Just
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't work like that. It's um, you know, I don't
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: know what. I don't know if that's what happy with
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: what happened with Robbie's other night, But anyways, um, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: then I was again I was She's like, oh, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: only spent one you only spent one hours with me. Um. Again,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit of exaggeration, maybe a couple of hours,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: but um, I mean Vinie. We never got to see
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and we never got to saw anyone else be sides
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: are each other because we were doing from basically in
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the morning tonight. We never had any time to any
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: time to sight see, any time to relax. And I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: used the gym a couple times in my condo, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I had no time to see anyone else. And uh
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: so she obviously wasn't too happy with that. And that's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: kind of when we just sided. Um, you know that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: we're best just being friends. Um. And you know, as
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: time went on over the last month or tune, um,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: we kind of realized, like, I think she's an awesome girl.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I think she's super bright. Um, she a good person,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: good heart and deserves the best. And but I think
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just we're just different people. Um, you know, I'm
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: a little more liberal. Um, she's a little more traditional.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: She wants something, you know, the whole you know, husband
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and wife right away, and she wants the kids and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: house wants who are still like, you know, busy, you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: living my life and we're just uh, you know, just
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I think we're just different. And so we kind of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: learned that and I you know, like it was good
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: to cut it off when we did. Instead of dragging
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: it on for um TV Steak. You know, I could have,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you know, said oh no, you know, I love you,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you know, the last couple of months and let's you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: be together for TV Steak and for media Steak and
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: then you know, three or four months down the road
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and it like, you know, a lot of couples do do,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you know, from the fascination. But you know, I didn't
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: want new uh leader on for months and months, which
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't. And I also told her at one point,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I think I said on the anale, which I did
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: as well on a couple of times in person, I like,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you can you could have came to Vancouver. I told
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you to come. But at that point she was kind
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: of over it. But I did ask her to come
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: to Vancouver to hang out and spend some time with me.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: But so that's a long story short there. That is
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the long story. Long, long, Well you want a long story.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So that's I'm glad, I'm glad you. We really don't
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: have any more questions for you. You You basically answered everything
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in there. That's what, that's what, that's what it basically was.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what. And they edited how I
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: really want and I don't care. I'm cool with that.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I knew right away from you know, being on the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: back ord how they edit things and what they want
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: to show, and the same with Paradise, and so I'm
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: kind of cool with that. You know. It's like you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: have to be comfortable with that, and you get me
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: confident and not really care, which works all for me. So,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: as a girl who's fallen for a lot of guys
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: who haven't exactly caught me, I feel like this is
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a classic story where like the girl has her own
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: story and the guy has his own story, and like
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: both of them are pretty legit. It's just that the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: entire time they weren't seeing eye to eye, you know
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: what I mean. You know that's the thing. I mean.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying she I'm not saying she was wrong
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: or I'm right or whatever. We just she was gonna want.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I did not know she was in love
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: with me. That was like when I saw my jaw daughter, Like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I didn't know that, Like when we
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: were when we were talking in the in the fantasy Sweetich,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she just did. Um, I'm falling and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: it's the sort of thing. You know, the cameras there,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you're just kind of I was kind of nervous. You know.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It's different when the cameras are they're ready waits for
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you to like talk, and when you're just like when
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you're just like you know, doing your thing, like just
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: when you're like playing around. But but yet, you know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I got no hard feelings. All. I think she's awesome girl,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and yeah, that's why I went there. But as I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: as time went on, I just kind of learned that,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we're just not meant for each other. You know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to pretend to be so
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: when I'm not uns and I'm not gonna leader on
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: for months for media stake, you know. Yeah, like some
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: people might think I've did the wrong thing, or I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: did leader on or whatever. But I mean you can
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: think whatever you want, really, you know, and I get it,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: like the show, uh is tough to live through, and
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: it's obviously a sense of situation situation at times, and
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: we just heard a lot of the things that you
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: felt like you did right in this process. My question is,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: what did you do wrong? We all make mistakes, you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: throughout life, and and one of the best things you
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: can do is learn from those. So throughout this whole
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: process during Bastard and Paradise, what mistake did you make
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and what have you learned more about yourself? And what
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: situation to be learned more about yourself? Um, I mean
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: as you as both of your well well, where like
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: when you're on the show and the camera on, you're
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: kind of caught up in this, you know, putting it
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: on for prousis putting it on for the audience, putting
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: it on for everyone. And also I don't want to
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: be real to myself, and it's like sometimes it's kind
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: of gray area where it's like, I don't know what
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you know, am I saying it for? Who? Am I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: saying it for myself? I try to be real for
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: most of the time, and you know, maybe I got
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: caught up in like being there. But also the whole
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: situation of speaking on Paris, it's like utopia where there's
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: no distraction in the sense of there's no one other
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: like lazies and have another guy going after her. I
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: didn't have to compete for another guy. We weren't having
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: to worry about work in the next day or nothing
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: like that. It was all like when you're a paradise,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: it's easy for everything to be perfect, you know, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: these for me and lazy there it was easy. So
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: then once the cameras went away and once you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it was just me and her, and it was just like, oh, okay,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: well you're leaving tomorrow, leaving to where I'm kind of
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: like the whole it was like a shock and I
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, well, you know, and it was kind
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: of like we had I had a whole day in
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a bit to think about. And then and then July
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and as we were talking and forth on guy, you've
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: been uh uh Facebook, We're just like, it's just sometimes, Harry,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: so mistake sometimes it's hard. And my mistake would probably
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: be you know, as you're well aware, I mean most
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: people well aware that I played up for cameras take
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: to make people laugh or to get a reaction that
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: maybe I gotta like be careful on, you know, for
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: girl's emotions. Like, but again I didn't. I don't know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I just didn't. I wasn't trying to be malicious in
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: any way. Um, you know, I think I was fairly
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I was doing fairly well until I guess the very
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: last a little bit where you know, she took it
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the wrong way. But I know I said anything I
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: said on the couch. She didn't say this, but the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: initial this I said that story like I saw you,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you told this way. I saw you that,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you know, the top and I didn't need it to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: be like that. Yeah. I feel like, um, just on
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: my experiences on Paradise Paradise, like on the show, is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: when both storylines come together and you're like, oh, that
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: was her side of story and that was his side
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: of the story. Yeah, and then when you go on
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the reunion show, you kind of really talked that out
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: in the differences between you two. So after you talked
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: it out on the reunion show, Um, how was it
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: backstage with Lazy? Well, uh yeah, going on that like
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: when Dean was just thinking about I remember in Dan
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: said that he didn't realize like what some of the
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: things that could, like how affected Christina was all the crying,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Like he didn't realize that he didn't see the interviews.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: He didn't like, I didn't realize again with the stuff
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: that Lacey was staying about me either. And uh so,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: like I said, when me and Lazy we had over
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the last like July, we were talking about everything. Means
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I've been saying for rambling on for last twenty minutes,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I've been meaning lazy having conversations on back and forth,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and like she was kept on saying like it wasn't
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: only five days long, like because she said that we've
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: been talking like the last year. But you know what
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: it's like talking over text message where you like, it's
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: not intimate, it's not personal. It's just like you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's just unless you're skyping every day. That's what a
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: different story. But so she felt like a bigger bond
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: over that last year, while me it was just like
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I only had that five days, Like I was there
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: for five days, and it's just it was just hard
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: for me to you know, even though I did feel
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: a good connection, it wasn't enough. But so when I
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: saw her on the count, and then the second time
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I saw her was in New York, and then I
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: saw and then I saw the reunion, and so yeah,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: it was a little bit awkward, especially when I walked in.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was walking into a freaking lines
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: then and I wasn't under some surprised, so you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit ready, But I drinking the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: last three hours of a board on my mind, as
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: you guys know how a lot of downtime. But um so,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: actually I didn't even get to see her behind afterwards
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: because um, we had to talk to the psych and uh,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: we had to grab your stuff and I didn't see you.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I only saw maybe ten people. I didn't see her
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: at all. Sevn't seen her since. Uh uh, I haven't
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: seen her since. Um that's on the couch there. Oh,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. You've brought up a topic that I think
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: would be great for us to talk about on the podcast.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Do girls blow up certain things in relationships like we
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: texted every day? Or like he told me this, do
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: we focus too much on it and make it too
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: big of a deal or down or or do guys
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: downplay little things like texting every day and when he
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: said this or that. I think it goes both ways,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: like like a lot of it, like I think gets
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: born in proportion, and especially on TV, like gets I mean,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: he gets born in proportion, and everyone has their opinion,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you know, for example, you know, I mean, you know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: obviously I checked my stand top with my DM. You know,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I got to make sure that keeps it, keep it
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: down to zero. So every day check on it. But
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: you know, nine percent of people said, like, we're agreeing
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: with me yesterday. But then you also have people reading
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: underneath my pictures and somewhere in agreeing. Everyone's gonna have
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: a different opinion. And depends on how I medited. It's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: what they show. It depends on you know, what age
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you are. It depends if you're a liberal or if
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you're a conservative. Um, you know, it depends, and you
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: know what side do you want to leave? You know?
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a good question. I think a
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: lot of guys that talked to kind of stay like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you know, some lot of girls make this into a
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: bigger dealing and it actually is. I don't know if
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: it's true or not, But what do you think? Um,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's just something that I would like to
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: explore further. I mean maybe it's just the person who's
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: more invested in the relationship normally blows up quote quote details, um,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: and then and then the person that's less invested usually
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: downplays little things like that. I think that's true as well.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And that's that was another issue with being on the show,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that that was my bloody bacherette and then a paradise
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and the match makerfusing them back on parady. So I
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  Speaker 1: kind of like at that point, I was kind of learning,
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  Speaker 1: like how TV is, and I know what it's all about,
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  Speaker 1: and I know the producers like, and I know gets
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: reactions from the fans. It's kind of like while he
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: was still new to like. So she took it maybe
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: more serious than I did. You know, all right, Well,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: it seems it seems like you really were able to
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: describe your side of the story on this podcast. So
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like you feel in a sense of relief
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: to get that off your chest after all the hate
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you must have gotten from social media yesterday. Um well
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't really look down much. Like I said,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: It's checked on my instergent mostly and you like, I'm
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: surprised a lot of people like we're positive. You know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: you do get something negative as well, But I, um, yeah,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I had the day everyonely don't care. Like, say,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: for example, I posted a clip about me talking with
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Blake about her because it was quite funny. Actually I thought,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I mean this goes to show you I don't really
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: care that much. Um that's yeah. I just I mean
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, end of the day. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: like that fun. I like to make people last. And
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: that's why, you know, I keep going back in these
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: shows because like keep getting asked, and it's all about fun.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: It's all about TV. You can see how you can
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: see how the edit like um para that they kind
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: of edit it with the music and background noise. It's
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: kind of like a kind of slapstick satire. And so
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: that's why you know, it kind of works well for
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: me because I can play into it. But you can't.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: You can't take it too serious. I mean, you know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: there obviously are some real relationships that formed from it,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and that's great, and I mean you've gotta be super
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: happy for the people that you know, do you get
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: these relationships out of them. But at the same time,
• 51:01
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• 51:03
  Speaker 1: fun with their right well, I mean, and that's and
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: that's the point I tried to bring up earlier is
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it can be all fun and games and it and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: it can be lighthearted and it can be funny, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: it can be comical at times, but there's real emotions
• 51:17
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• 51:21
  Speaker 1: learned or that you messed up on is from going
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: out on these shows. I hope, personally as a viewer
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: and as a fan to watch you show um some
• 51:29
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• 51:32
  Speaker 1: that becomes a huge part of this experience for people.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: And and it sounds like as as this gone, as
• 51:39
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• 51:42
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• 51:45
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  Speaker 1: that was a thing. But somebody else that we know
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  Speaker 1: take on this whole situation. I don't know what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it's true. If it is true, where
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  Speaker 1: weird and we have we get to watch it all
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  Speaker 1: kind of play out right now. Oh my gosh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: obsessed with Amanda. You should have seen our our messages
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  Speaker 1: this morning. We didn't use words, We just use gifts
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to communicate. Um. She rocked her Taylor swift today. She
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  Speaker 1: was a Taylor swift. He last night on Instagram posted
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  Speaker 1: on his story a little rant about how Amanda Um
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  Speaker 1: plays the victim. He made it seem like she puts
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  Speaker 1: herself out there. She you know, somebody, not Amanda by name,
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  Speaker 1: but somebody puts herself out there as this sweet, completely
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  Speaker 1: innocent person. But in real life, she has to take um.
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  Speaker 1: She has to admit that she's part of the problems
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  Speaker 1: in this relationship, and not just this one, but her
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: past Bachelor esque relationships. Robbie was basically staying on his
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: inst story that why was Amanda sitting there next to
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: him listening to the twins preach false allegations of something
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: that may have happened on a business trip in Colorado
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  Speaker 1: when Amanda supposedly knew that that was false news, fake news, okay,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: And now, in retaliation, this morning, Amanda posted for the
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: world to see the Instagram message that she got from
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: a random fan in Colorado of Robbie being snuggly with
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: a strange female. This is getting heated um in either way.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: You know, we don't know the ins anounced this. It's
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: inappropriate to post this stuff for the public to see.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get what Robbie's trying to do right.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: He feels he needs to defend himself. He feels like
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: he's getting attacked and that he needs to sign of
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the story to be told right. Well, we got his
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: moment for that on the reunion. That was why that
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: whole thing was set up. Tell the world about it then,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: But to post it on social media now is immature?
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: And which exact But which side do you think is immature? Both?
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I think both are immature. I think I don't think
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: there's any place um for this kind of action. It's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: in our world, right, I mean that they've dated each other,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: there's obviously hard feelings. Breakups suck, They're terrible no matter
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: who you are, what your relationship status is. When you
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: leave a relationship, it is hard and there are hard there,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: there's tough feelings that are involved. Don't spread it, you know,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: just just handle it amongst your friends and your family
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and the people you can fight in. But here's the
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: weirdest part to me, actually, and I gotta ask you
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: about this. So I'm reading Robbie's message and I don't
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: know Robbie. I don't honestly, he's he's probably a fine,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: fine human being, But it's so weird to me. It's
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: so weird to me how these people and it's happened
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks with multiple people in fact
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: the nation. They compliment themselves, I am a good person,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I am a person I love well, I invest myself
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: in the relationships. Like these kind of things are just
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: odd to me. Give yourself compliments, but others they're not
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: getting compliments. There's day reason why they're not giving you compliments.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: That's hysterical and something I didn't even think well reading
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: that and things to bring it to my attention, because
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: that is absolutely ridiculous. I guess I I guess their
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: explanation to why they're making this so public is because
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: their relationships start it on TV and was a public thing.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Hence why everybody releases a statement when they end up
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: breaking up with a person that they ended up with
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: on the Bats Are the bats are right? Right? So
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: maybe that's why they're they're feuding in public. Yeah, I
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: mean it's fine. No, Actually, this is just something that's
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: happened over the last couple of weeks with people that
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: have been on back from Paradise. They seem to defend
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: themselves like there's there's there's obvious reaction to negative criticism.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: If it's blaming editing, which you know I have been
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: able to discussed. They edit some things. They edit they
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: don't dud to others, So they blame editing, or they
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: blame um the moment. Are they blame being sucked up
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: in the situation? Are they blame having too big of
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: a heart and they care too much? Like this kind
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: of stuff needs to stop. Own up to your mistakes. No,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: just like I asked Daniel there being able to stay
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: back you got. You heard how uncomfortable he got when
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I said, hey, what what did you do wrong? He
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't hardly answer, Like, we all make mistakes, We're not perfect,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: and the best thing we can do in these experiences
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: learn from him. And if we're not learning from him,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: what's the point because we gotta people walk out of
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: this with a relationship. You've got a hand it to
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Dean four admitting yesterday that he has made mistakes, and
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: for the girls not to blame each other regarding like
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: all their anger and hostility in the situation, but to
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: blame him, that's nice. I want to know what you
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: guys think of these feuds and social media it's so embarrassing.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: It's literally, to me, an older person, it makes me cringe.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Why why are people making this so public? Well, it
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: really it started with Robbie. If Robbie should have admitted
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: that he if he didn't want this to happen, he
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: probably should admitted on the show last night that he
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: did something wrong in Colorado, because I actually think that
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: he really did, and now he's trying to hide it
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: and he's trying to see that the twins are lying,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and I don't think the twins are lying. Well, what
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: about Ben? Ben? What do you think about the twins
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: jumping in? That was weird to me too. I love
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the twins, but like, wait a minute, isn't it Amanda
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and Robbie. I would say, it's not their battle, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I get that they're good friends and I get to
• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: that situation it is respectful for for anybody else not
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: And let's not just call the twins here, right, It's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: it's not anybody's business really on social media either. It's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: this is Robbie and Amanda's relationship to work through, work
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: on and and and bring up tough situations that They're adults.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: They can do that. And so I don't like the
• 1:00:31
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• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: situation because maybe Robbie and Amanda weren't ready to talk
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: about it. You know. That's that's kind of the part
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: that that I didn't love um. But yeah, again, I mean,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: what do we think about the feuds? Like, I don't
• 1:00:47
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• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: don't think we should be watching. But what do I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: find myself doing updating my Twitter to check Amanda and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Robbie Twitter every five minutes to see if anything else
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: got posted? Because started is this good stuff? Okay? Whether
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: or not you guys are you know, fans of it
• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the caption of her tweet today the picture there was
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a picture of him in Colorado with the girl, and
• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: some videos last night that then she deleted that I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: thought were weird. It's just too much and these people
• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: a mommy to say, oh, read it before you post it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: You crazy people. Oh my gosh, but I just can't
• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: guilty of feeding into the drama on social and being like, no,
• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I've said so many things, and now, like in recent past,
• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: talks about being kind to your enemies, um is the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: most beneficial practice to kind of win that battle. And
• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:13
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:23
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• 1:02:26
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• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:42
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  Speaker 1: specifically living in Chicago. Um was on The bachelorreat season,
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  Speaker 1: the most recent one with Rachel and the most recent
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  Speaker 1: season of Bachelor in Paradise as well. Um, it's been
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  Speaker 1: it's been a blast, man. You know, I think that
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  Speaker 1: the life of the party thing doesn't necessarily come through.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly didn't come through during during Rachel's season. I
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  Speaker 1: think I was sort of typecasts the dude that talked
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  Speaker 1: about other dudes, which is a really unfortunate situation. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But as you guys will know, I think there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of there are a lot of stories that
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  Speaker 1: can be created out of the content, um, that you
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  Speaker 1: produced during the course of your time on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And and that was sort of the role that I've played.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of played role with Dad
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  Speaker 1: in the house. Um, I'm thirty, but I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm like thirty going on forty a little bit in
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  Speaker 1: terms of some of the maturity stuff. UM. And I've
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  Speaker 1: run my own business, as you mentioned, I think you had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a friend of yours worked for me. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And I've done a whole lot of stuff in thirty years,
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  Speaker 1: and I just kind of ended up taking on the
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  Speaker 1: I guess the moderator of the house role, and that
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  Speaker 1: sort of turned into this this negative perception, which really
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  Speaker 1: but on the other side, I do think I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: cool and I made a lot of really good friends
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  Speaker 1: and the results of of being on the show on
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  Speaker 1: on both shows, and you know, I think I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to especially going on Paradise. I was just trying to
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  Speaker 1: show that, like that more authentic, loose and kind of
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  Speaker 1: funny side of myself. Um okay, I wanted I need
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  Speaker 1: to know, like, were you annoyed it yourself while watching
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  Speaker 1: Rachel's season? Were so annoying? Um? Yeah, you know they were.
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  Speaker 1: It was tough to watch. Um. You know. I even
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  Speaker 1: I contacted the producers and I was like, guys, like,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is hard for me to see, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Like like I remember watching it and being like getting
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  Speaker 1: text mesk just from my friends that know me really well,
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, man, that's not a great look.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, dude, I know, like I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: it with you. I know it's not a great look.
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  Speaker 1: Um yeah it's fun. Um, you know, it wasn't. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the most fun watching that play back. But you
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  Speaker 1: learned so much about yourself and the process and and
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  Speaker 1: about you know, kind of interacting with other people throughout
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  Speaker 1: the court to this thing. And I wouldn't take it back,
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  Speaker 1: you know what. I do think a little differently, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, But I wouldn't take the experience back. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's refreshing. I gotta tell you this, because Ash and
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  Speaker 1: I just got done with a with a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a conversation about how very few people in general light,
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  Speaker 1: not just as franchisement life, can admit their mistakes and
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  Speaker 1: admit when they've messed up, and admit they can learn
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  Speaker 1: something from it and walk away and say, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't do that perfectly, but I'd do it again because
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  Speaker 1: I learned something. And it goes back to my first question,
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  Speaker 1: you what is the biggest mistake, What is the biggest
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  Speaker 1: thing you've learned along this journey that you've been a
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  Speaker 1: part of. Yeah, I mean again, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: being typecast is the person that has conversations about other people.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was that first and foremost right is
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  Speaker 1: sort of kind of staying in your lane, so to speak,
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  Speaker 1: and really focusing on you and the relationship with the
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  Speaker 1: person you're speaking with and candidly. That can be really
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  Speaker 1: difficult at times, because there are moments during my conversations
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  Speaker 1: with Rachel where she was straight up, you know, set,
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  Speaker 1: and she sat down and looked at me, looked at
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  Speaker 1: me the eye and said, I really trust you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're someone and that is really like in the house,
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  Speaker 1: I want your opinion about this person. The difficulty there
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  Speaker 1: is that most people don't see that interaction, right. The
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  Speaker 1: only see the communication where I say something and it
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  Speaker 1: seems like, you know, I was doing it either for
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  Speaker 1: you know, disingenuous reasons or to kind of put myself
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  Speaker 1: ahead and bring somebody down. Um. So trying to clear
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  Speaker 1: that up has been really difficult because obviously people see
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  Speaker 1: what they see and then that interpretation of that content
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  Speaker 1: stays with you forever and ever. Um. But if I
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  Speaker 1: had to do that again, I mean certainly would be
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  Speaker 1: much more steadfast and kind of staying in in my
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  Speaker 1: own way and so to speak, and really focusing on
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  Speaker 1: our own progression. And that's certainly has kind of bled
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  Speaker 1: into probably quote unquote real life, right is the way
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  Speaker 1: that you approach people, the way that you have conversations about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, other individuals that you might be friends with
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  Speaker 1: or not friends with, and really respecting everyone's space, um,
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  Speaker 1: is something that was certainly the thing that came that
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  Speaker 1: really really you know sort of I was focusing on
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  Speaker 1: after that that The difficulty of watching its play back
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  Speaker 1: was just you know, being being conscious of the things
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  Speaker 1: that you say about the people that you that you're
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  Speaker 1: saying and the people you say them too, is a
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  Speaker 1: is a really big deal. You are spot on, man.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you this, I was not expecting to
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  Speaker 1: get an answer like that. Um, not because I know
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  Speaker 1: you we've never met, but just because it's very rare
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  Speaker 1: to have somebody be that vulnerable and honest. So, UM,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kudos to you for for taking this experience
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  Speaker 1: and understanding that. Yet you might not have worked or
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  Speaker 1: you know, walked away with the relationship, but you walked
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  Speaker 1: away learning something about yourself and hopefully becoming a better person. Um.
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  Speaker 1: That is something that that Ashton and I talked about
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  Speaker 1: all the time and we respect that. Um, biggy man.
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  Speaker 1: We we appreciate you coming on the podcast. UM, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We have to go
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: because we are running out of time, but man, keep
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: doing you and I look forward to probably watching you
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  Speaker 1: on a couple more Bachelor Franchise shows here in the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: near future. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I appreciate I
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: appreciate a few minutes guys talked about. Yet I'm just
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: like I like you so much more after just hearing
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: you talk here. Look what a TV show can do
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  Speaker 1: to someone. That's right, That's right, Thanks, all right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: cool later, Ashley. This is the end of our podcast,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and it's also the end of our Bachelor and Paradise
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: UH season. But just because Bachelor in Paradise is over
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean we are, right, Ashley. Right, you guys, We're
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be back next week and we're gonna be talking
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: more about love and relationships and of course our Bachelor family,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: and that will be the start of season three of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: the Almost Famous Podcasts. I'm really excited to start talking
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: about stuff that maybe is not necessarily what happened yesterday,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: but what happens in our lives, that's right. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: please all of you listeners out there, email us, tweet uh, Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: message us with ideas and topics to talk about. Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and I will be coming back to you next week
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: to talk about everything out there in the world. But
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: until then, this has been been, and this has been
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Ashley on the Almost Famous podcast. We appreciate you keep
• 1:12:10
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