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Czech Hunter (feat. Ira Madison III) · Like a Virgin

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Speaker 1: Last night when I got home from your house, I
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Speaker 1: went into the bathroom and flipped the light on and
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Speaker 1: looked up and there was a huge fighter. And I
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Speaker 1: stayed calm, and I went and saw that the Gucci
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Speaker 1: shoebox was sitting out I've been cleaning up my closet,
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Speaker 1: and I took it and I opened it, and I
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Speaker 1: caught the spider in the shoebox. The chici ist capturing
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Speaker 1: of a spider that spiders spiders, that spider's casket that
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Speaker 1: spiders like. Hey, welcome to make career Rose, I, for
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Speaker 1: your recommendation, have been blasting Kelly Clarkson's Christmas albums um
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Speaker 1: alta watsoo. It's really putting me in the in the
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Speaker 1: Christmas spirit here. Don't you feel all Christmas right now?
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Speaker 1: Christmas isn't canceled justice you. Um. We are so lucky
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Speaker 1: to be carrying that Christmas spirit for word with a
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Speaker 1: little episode on last holiday with none other than Ira
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Speaker 1: Medicine to the third co host, I have to Keep
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Speaker 1: It podcast, scorned Twitter user famous for being banned from Twitter.
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Speaker 1: This this movie really is in our Christmas cannon. I
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Speaker 1: would say absolutely. It is one of the few movies
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Speaker 1: I must watch every holiday season, and we are going
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Speaker 1: to break it down for you as to why it
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Speaker 1: should be in your Christmas Anne, get ready to do
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Speaker 1: a glow up and make sure you have some snacks
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Speaker 1: handy a big French Yeah. We are you happy to
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Speaker 1: be impell We are happy to be in plague. This
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Speaker 1: is like a version the show where we give yesterday's
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Speaker 1: pup gilt job to this take. I am and I
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Speaker 1: am plant. And before we get to IRAA medicine tap,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about what's going on in pop Girl jail today.
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Speaker 1: What is that French accent? That was my high school
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Speaker 1: French teacher who was a bitch would be so mad.
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Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time of the year, don't you agree, friend?
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Speaker 1: I do. I mean, my body is a little broken
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Speaker 1: from spending maybe too much time at Universal Studios last Friday,
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Speaker 1: but you know, I'm definitely are you still sore? My
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Speaker 1: my shoulders still hurt a little bit from the four
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Speaker 1: times that we rode them. Oh my god, I mean
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Speaker 1: my voice is still recovering. You can kind of hear it. Well,
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Speaker 1: we turned into woo girls for a day who and
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Speaker 1: like and and honestly like, Yeah, it wasn't just on
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Speaker 1: the rides. It was just kind of like we were
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Speaker 1: the high girls of Universal Students. It was it was
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Speaker 1: we really us in our skims. Our skims and are
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Speaker 1: like the sunglasses. We looked like de Mentors walking around
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Speaker 1: hat set. We went with our friend Ash, and I
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Speaker 1: will say that one of my favorite moments from the
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Speaker 1: day was at the end of the day, you know, exhausted,
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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out what to do with our time,
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Speaker 1: and we saw this like caricature artist that was like
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Speaker 1: drawing this couple and we were like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: should we do that? That would be so fun or
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Speaker 1: like one of y'all said that actually it was, and
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Speaker 1: I immediately was like, uh no, I'm not doing that.
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Speaker 1: It will send my dysphoria of the wazoo. And then
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Speaker 1: Rose was like, oh my god, yeah, absolutely, me too,
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Speaker 1: and then Ash was like, oh yeah, me too. Like
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Speaker 1: it was it was like it was it was a
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Speaker 1: dysphoria domino effect where we all were like, oh wait,
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Speaker 1: that's um, that's really taking a risk on being perceived.
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Speaker 1: It really is like I don't need him drawing me
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Speaker 1: on a skateboard or something. Um. What was your favorite
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Speaker 1: part about Universal Rose. Besides the warm butter beer served
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Speaker 1: at Three Broomsticks. I actually enjoyed the studio tours, so
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Speaker 1: even though I think like it's kind of lame and
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Speaker 1: that it's not really a ride, but it was like
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Speaker 1: a nice little sojourn around the park with some exciting moment.
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Speaker 1: Definitely one of my favorite parts of the day. I
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Speaker 1: was not excited, and at that point in the day
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Speaker 1: we definitely needed to sit for a while. Very brave
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Speaker 1: of us, honestly, to spend the whole day writing roller coasters.
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Speaker 1: After the emotional roller coaster that was the Sex in
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Speaker 1: the City reboot and just like that. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: you so, you know, as you all know, last week
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Speaker 1: we talked in depth about Sex in the City and
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Speaker 1: you know, we had a lot of questions, um as
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Speaker 1: Carrie Bradshaw often does about and just like that and
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Speaker 1: what it would be and now we have some answers.
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Speaker 1: We've seen the first two episodes. We found out what
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Speaker 1: the tea is with Samantha she's in London, and how
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Speaker 1: to falling out with Carrie because Carrie fired her as
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Speaker 1: her publicist, which I'm going to call bullshit on that
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Speaker 1: is the laziest writing after everything they went through together,
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Speaker 1: that is not how their friendship would end. And like
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Speaker 1: the idea that Samantha Jones needs carries bullshit little column
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Speaker 1: money for her business, Like there's no way she's got
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Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry a baby. I don't actually need
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Speaker 1: a reason to know why Samantha like cut them off.
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Speaker 1: Like there's a whole six seasons of toxicity in all
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Speaker 1: of their relationships that like we bared witness to and
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Speaker 1: to me, like it would be even more real to say,
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Speaker 1: you know, we lost touch and I don't know why,
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Speaker 1: Like that's even more painful to me, like and also
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Speaker 1: more realistic, like you lose friends and sometimes you don't
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Speaker 1: know why and it sucks, and like, you know, I
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Speaker 1: totally agree with you. I think that like it was
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Speaker 1: just it didn't really hit at all. And I also
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Speaker 1: will say, like when Carrie says, like I thought we
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Speaker 1: would be friends forever, like that did like hit me
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Speaker 1: really hard. And in the first five minutes too, I
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Speaker 1: was like, WHOA, Like they really are going in when
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Speaker 1: you kind of thought that, especially after all the hype
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Speaker 1: of this reboot, that there would be more things that
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Speaker 1: they would try to avoid because it's awkward and because
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Speaker 1: there's all this drama and ta around it. The real
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Speaker 1: awkwardness of the reboot for me is the ham fisted
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Speaker 1: wokeness of it. They're just going so hard with over
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Speaker 1: correcting how problematic Sex in the City was, and like
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Speaker 1: it is brutal. Every scene with Sato Ramirez A. K. H.
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Speaker 1: Diaz doing their podcast is just like it's like a caricature.
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Speaker 1: And I did feel called out when carry said, oh,
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Speaker 1: I have to go record a podcast. It's like doing
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Speaker 1: jury duty. Um, that felt very Yeah, that was really
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Speaker 1: funny at us. One of the jokes that made me la. Yes,
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Speaker 1: there were like three jokes that I laughed out loud
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Speaker 1: at and that was one of them. But the wokeness, it's,
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Speaker 1: you know, the thing is, I just don't think Sex
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Speaker 1: in the City works in the framework of like apologizing
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Speaker 1: for the things that said. Honestly, I kind of wish
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Speaker 1: that they were just making the same show and like
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Speaker 1: correcting in subtle ways rather than trying to like actively apologize,
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Speaker 1: because it felt like I was like, is everyone non binary?
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Speaker 1: On this show? I think that, Well, I want to
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Speaker 1: get to that. I will say, like, first of all,
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Speaker 1: you're totally right, like leave the word woke out of
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Speaker 1: your scripts. And also like queer people don't talk like
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Speaker 1: don't And that's the thing that's really disappointing is that
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Speaker 1: there are no Latin or non binary writers in the end,
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Speaker 1: just like that room, Like I went into this and researched,
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Speaker 1: and like what we're seeing is like a product of
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Speaker 1: Michael Patrick King's imagination of what he thinks a Latin
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Speaker 1: non binary person is. And I say this like lovingly,
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Speaker 1: like I love sex in the city and I wanted
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Speaker 1: to be better, Like, but that is exactly what it
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Speaker 1: looks like on screen. Is it's not a real person, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because that's why you have moments like Cha, whose whole story,
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Speaker 1: whose whole character we've seen so far is like them
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Speaker 1: being like this non binary stand up comic rebel telling
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Speaker 1: Carrie to step her pussy up, like that they would
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Speaker 1: never say that, applying like drag terminology to this like
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Speaker 1: non binary stand up comic. Like it's just taking taking
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Speaker 1: someone who's so out of touch with real queer people,
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Speaker 1: like taking their idea of what the entirety of queerness
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Speaker 1: is like and funneling it into one character. It's just
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Speaker 1: and it perfectly cast though, like Sata is great. Like,
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Speaker 1: but even though everything they have to say is doing doing,
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Speaker 1: doing as much as they can with the material. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, they're not in their thirties anymore, Like it
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Speaker 1: can't necessarily be the show that it used to be.
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Speaker 1: I think that the strengths, a lot of the strengths
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Speaker 1: of what we watched are those moments of nostalgia, right,
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Speaker 1: like Susan Sharon coming in, or like them, Susan Sharon
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Speaker 1: legend icon star. Susan Sharon should be in the main cast,
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Speaker 1: she should be the fourth girl. But yeah, maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: not shocked to see that. Like the majority of the
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Speaker 1: sentiment around the show, at least on my timeline, was
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Speaker 1: really negative. Do I think it was perfectly executed? Like no,
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Speaker 1: but like adapting to woke culture, like fumbling through a podcast,
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Speaker 1: being a mother, experiencing grief, like those are the problems
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Speaker 1: of like women in their fifties, and so coming away
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Speaker 1: from it, I was like kind of thinking about the
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Speaker 1: impact of nostalgia and like how it shapes the way
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Speaker 1: we watch, you know, cultural objects like this and their reboots.
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Speaker 1: Like Miranda kind of has always been awkward, right, Like
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Speaker 1: that's just how she's always been. But Like what has
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Speaker 1: changed between you know, the show ending and where we
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Speaker 1: are at now, is that Miran to became a meme queen.
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Speaker 1: Everyone sees themselves in Randa. Everyone says Miranda's the favorite character.
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Speaker 1: There's a book called We Should All Be Miranda's right.
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Speaker 1: And so when we see like our our meme hero
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Speaker 1: failing when she's not adapting to the culture that we
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Speaker 1: have already thinks she's a part of, like it feels
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Speaker 1: kind of like tainted. And I don't know, what did
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Speaker 1: you think about the Miranda of it all? It didn't
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Speaker 1: ring true to me just because, like, yes, Miranda's awkward,
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Speaker 1: but I think Miranda was always in a way, like
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Speaker 1: the most street smart of them. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: she had some fumbles, Like there's an episode early on
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Speaker 1: in the series when her boss assumes she's a lesbian,
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Speaker 1: so she takes the woman with her too into a
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Speaker 1: party and like tries to make it work. But I
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Speaker 1: think like because of that, like and because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that these women live in New York City and
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Speaker 1: have for decades, like they're acting like these are their
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Speaker 1: first experiences with black women, with queer people, and like
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Speaker 1: that to me, either signifies that like it's bad writing
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Speaker 1: or that like in the world of the show, these
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Speaker 1: women have truly just been so siloed by their own
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Speaker 1: privilege that I guess they are having some kind of
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Speaker 1: like reckoning I think, uh, speaking of heterosexual characters making
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Speaker 1: bad decisions. I did finally watch Twelve Dates of Christmas
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Speaker 1: the second season for you. Thank you, Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: I feel really seen and held by you. I love them.
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Speaker 1: You basically forced me to watch it. And when we
11:37
Speaker 1: we discussed it, you know the other night when we
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Speaker 1: were hanging out, and you didn't remember any of the
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Speaker 1: things that I was trying to tell you. No, I
11:45
Speaker 1: didn't remember any of the people. It's really what I
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Speaker 1: wanted was for you to experience was the vibes and
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Speaker 1: the experience. Let's set it up for everyone what the
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Speaker 1: show is about. So Twelve Dates of Christmas is a show.
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Speaker 1: It's a reality show that's sort of like trying to
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Speaker 1: replicate what happens in a holiday rom com. So there
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Speaker 1: are three leads um and in this iteration, there was
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Speaker 1: one straight guy and two queer people, a queer woman
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Speaker 1: and a queer man um and they are staying at
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Speaker 1: this beautiful um Ski lodge during Christmas. I'm saying that
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Speaker 1: air quotes because it was obviously shot in like March July.
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Speaker 1: I yeah, um. And they have a series of romantic
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Speaker 1: interests who show up at the lodge and sometimes unexpected
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Speaker 1: ways and attempt to woo them as they go on
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Speaker 1: twelve dates, all leading up to choosing someone to take
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Speaker 1: home with them for Christmas, which again is obviously like
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Speaker 1: shot in August, and they they put like a wreath
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Speaker 1: on their dad's that door. Um. And then this season,
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Speaker 1: the like secondary twist was that after they took their
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Speaker 1: love interest home for Christmas, they would then spend New
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Speaker 1: Years with New York City at the top of the
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Speaker 1: Empire State Building. So it's it's like the Bachelor meets
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Speaker 1: the bisexual season of Are You the One? Through the
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Speaker 1: lens of love? Actually, I wish it had had more
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Speaker 1: of like the queer messiness of Are You the One?
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Speaker 1: Because Heina, who's this like non binary character that kind
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Speaker 1: of you know, gets far in the competition, is like
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Speaker 1: very important for like non binary villain representation, as they
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Speaker 1: are like kind of the person that really throws a
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Speaker 1: lot of like kind of conflicts into the arena, but
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Speaker 1: not enough conflict In my opinion. Yeah, but I thought
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Speaker 1: like it was a good example of why there should
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Speaker 1: be more queer lead dating shows because like of the
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Speaker 1: inherent mess of your pool of love interests all potentially
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Speaker 1: being attracted to each other, and like we saw in
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Speaker 1: Twelve Dates of Christmas, two of the two of the
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Speaker 1: gay love interests like hooked up and ended up like
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Speaker 1: saying I love you to each other after guessing with
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Speaker 1: like a couple, um and then leaving together. Um Tina.
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Speaker 1: As we previously mentioned, like hooked up with the lesbian
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Speaker 1: who went home first. Um Heina is um Heina's pretty
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Speaker 1: big on lesbian. Have you ever seen their TikTok's? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're they're really funy ship. I didn't know that. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna have to tune in. Other takeaways is that like
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Speaker 1: just the just the the the awe inspiring quality of
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Speaker 1: like heterosexual dating, Like the heterosexual lead is like the
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Speaker 1: most basic and like indecisive and boring person on the planet,
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Speaker 1: and like he truly is is like every episode is
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Speaker 1: the most attracted to the newest exactly because it's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: shiny new thing for me to stick and every time
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Speaker 1: in the confessionals, but they like to be like he
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Speaker 1: talks about who the new girl is wo be like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of qualities stick out to me.
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Speaker 1: You know, she's attractive, she's the right height, she's gorgeous,
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Speaker 1: she's beautiful, and it's like every single time it's just
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Speaker 1: like yeah, kept talking about their height, which I thought
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Speaker 1: was so bizarre. And also like the gay guy, honest,
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Speaker 1: he was he was hot. He was hot. He was hot.
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Speaker 1: I mean I liked his little like gray. And there
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Speaker 1: was other like painful moments in these first dates. There
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Speaker 1: was like a moment where this girl is trying to
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Speaker 1: like talk about herself for her personality's like, well, I
15:21
Speaker 1: I'm a big Harry Potter fan. It's like if you
15:24
Speaker 1: were on a first date like that is actually going
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Speaker 1: to be the least interesting thing about you know, just
15:30
Speaker 1: come to the Universal Studios. There was another moment where
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Speaker 1: that the heterosexual guy was like, yeah, you know, our
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Speaker 1: relationship is like so amazing, like we're like Jim and Pam.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, thank you for making me watch it.
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Speaker 1: I did enjoy it. Thank you for watching. I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: truly less to have you in my life and um
15:55
Speaker 1: feel supported by you, especially after the last couple of
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Speaker 1: days have been a little sad after hearing that Anne
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Speaker 1: Rice died. It was announced by her son on on
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Speaker 1: social media that Anne had passed away at the age
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Speaker 1: of I believe eight was but we all know that
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Speaker 1: she was three and seventy two. Yes, Um, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what your relationship to Anne Rice is, but I
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Speaker 1: love and Rice. Like around the time that I started
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Speaker 1: watching Buffy, I like read a couple and Rice novels.
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Speaker 1: Obviously loved the movie Interview with the Vampire Queen of
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Speaker 1: the Damned when it came out was huge for me.
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Speaker 1: I guess like I might have even stuck around longer
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Speaker 1: in the Anne Rice fandom if it was allowed, because
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Speaker 1: Anne Rice was famously extremely anti fan fiction and would
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Speaker 1: in fact like send her lawyers to sue people who
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Speaker 1: wrote Vampire Chronicles fan fiction. But she also wrote very
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Speaker 1: like explicitly queer care aracters, like at a time when
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Speaker 1: that was not a thing you were supposed to do,
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Speaker 1: like Lestat and Louis and interviewed the vampire just were gay.
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Speaker 1: They were gays who adopted Kirsten Dunst. And there there
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Speaker 1: was something circling Twitter about and Rice talking about trans people.
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Speaker 1: How like trans people are sacred and have like existed
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Speaker 1: in every culture and so like yes, well I may
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Speaker 1: not have agreed with and Rice's views on fan fiction,
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Speaker 1: I do um you know, like celebrate her and everything
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Speaker 1: she contributed. I think like the modern preoccupation with vampires
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Speaker 1: like was started by her, and like you do not
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Speaker 1: hump Twilight without and Rice, and for that we lift
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Speaker 1: her up in celebration. Don't, don't, don't don't don't. What
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Speaker 1: are your what's your favorite part about the holidays? My
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Speaker 1: favorite part about the holiday is is traveling. Like I
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Speaker 1: once I got my first real job and was able to,
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Speaker 1: I just became a holiday traveler. Yeah, because my grandmother's
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Speaker 1: birthday is December fourteen, and my niece's birthday is the
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Speaker 1: same day. So I visit home then between Thanksgiving, between Christmas,
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Speaker 1: and then I just Christmas. I'm just like gone, gone,
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Speaker 1: you are international, smile the that girl's chip about you've
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Speaker 1: spent well, you've been to like for for the holiday summers,
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Speaker 1: you go to like Paris or where else do you go?
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Speaker 1: Like I went right before the pandemic my last Christmas,
18:55
Speaker 1: I went to um Bash the Mexican Love. Okay, I
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Speaker 1: just love being you know that, like I've always aspired
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Speaker 1: to be that um, that aunt um who you know
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Speaker 1: always travels from the holidays and then shows up with
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Speaker 1: like presents. It's like, Hi, I never see any of you,
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Speaker 1: and you a gift. Now I'm about to get out
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Speaker 1: of play big ant energy. I love that I newly
19:24
Speaker 1: became an aunt almost a year ago, and I'm trying
19:27
Speaker 1: I'm trying to manifest or trying to fest that same
19:31
Speaker 1: that same wealthy aunt energy. You need to buy more
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Speaker 1: calf Dan's. Yeah. Well, I also for me, it's really
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Speaker 1: about the opportunity to turn my nephew against my brother
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Speaker 1: and his wife and make him hate everything that they love.
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Speaker 1: That's my niece's favorite. As you just listen, you just
19:50
Speaker 1: gotta like it's just a random day when you're feeling it,
19:54
Speaker 1: just like hit her cash at with the money so
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Speaker 1: you buy just like I blessed I blessed the cash
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Speaker 1: app like the other day. Wow. I mean just imagine
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Speaker 1: like being like having you as your uncle. That's so
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Speaker 1: fucking cool. That's amazing. Yeah. Wow, well, um, speaking of traveling,
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Speaker 1: the setting for this movie that we're about to discuss
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Speaker 1: is Prague question Mark. Yeah, you all been to Prague.
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Speaker 1: I have not. I'm really mad because a friend of
20:24
Speaker 1: mine um just went in October and I couldn't go
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Speaker 1: because I was working. I do like in an Eastern
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Speaker 1: European moment. I've been to Budapest, so like like it's
20:43
Speaker 1: it's a really hard when people do it because they're
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Speaker 1: really trying to They're really trying to show you that
20:49
Speaker 1: they are international trials. Yeah, New York City. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: I know never been to Prague, but I would love
21:02
Speaker 1: to go. But but like I think only if I
21:05
Speaker 1: stayed in the kind of hotel that Queen Lativa stays. Yes,
21:08
Speaker 1: you got to stay in basically a castle. Yeah, truly,
21:12
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this world. But unfortunately
21:14
Speaker 1: I have been to Prague before when I was like
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Speaker 1: in like freshman or sophomore year. No, no, no, I
21:21
Speaker 1: think it was in seventh or eighth grade on a
21:24
Speaker 1: missions trip with me. I just took another step of
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Speaker 1: the I want to kill myself continue. No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 1: But I was teaching check teens about Christ our Savior.
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Speaker 1: Did you buy any chance find out that you were
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Speaker 1: going to die um from a brain disease right before
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Speaker 1: you went? No? I didn't but the check teens that
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Speaker 1: I was teaching the Bible too were very hot, and
21:48
Speaker 1: I remember like being like, these are some like we
21:52
Speaker 1: were both teens. I was like teens teaching teens about Jesus,
21:54
Speaker 1: and you're a bit of a check hunter if you no,
22:04
Speaker 1: I'm believing. So for those so for those who have
22:08
Speaker 1: never seen last Holiday before, the concede generally is like
22:11
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa finds out that she has a terminal illness.
22:14
Speaker 1: She has what three or four weeks to because she okay,
22:17
Speaker 1: because she slips and hits her head while working in
22:20
Speaker 1: the department store that she works in, which has a
22:22
Speaker 1: hospital in it where she gets a cat scan. Literally
22:26
Speaker 1: has a hospital in which, you know, every time I
22:28
Speaker 1: go to Bloomingdale's, I'm like, you know what, let me
22:31
Speaker 1: get a cat scan. Well, I'm here. The insurance covers that.
22:34
Speaker 1: I feel like it was. You half believe it because
22:37
Speaker 1: growing up I always got like my eye exams and
22:41
Speaker 1: things done like Sam's Club, but definitely not a hospital.
22:47
Speaker 1: I did not question it as a teenager. When I
22:49
Speaker 1: saw it at all, I was like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,
22:52
Speaker 1: So she embarks on this journey to Prague. It's because
22:55
Speaker 1: she decides she's going to spend all of her money.
22:58
Speaker 1: She's saving because she has like a recipe book, right,
23:04
Speaker 1: and she's like saving it her possibility. Very it's very
23:10
Speaker 1: very sad um. But what's amazing is that she cashes
23:13
Speaker 1: her four oh and kay, and they're like, oh, how
23:16
Speaker 1: are you going to spend it? She's like, I'm just
23:17
Speaker 1: gonna blow it all. And I also have to say
23:19
Speaker 1: that when I was like extremely broke and had first
23:22
Speaker 1: moved to New York City after my first publishing job,
23:25
Speaker 1: I ran out of money and I did cash my
23:26
Speaker 1: fur owen kay at the age of like twenty four,
23:30
Speaker 1: but it was first saving. I had one once at
23:33
Speaker 1: some point when you got a job. I look, I
23:36
Speaker 1: had a four ward came when I was at BuzzFeed.
23:38
Speaker 1: Where is it where? It's probably my My dad cashed
23:44
Speaker 1: in his four oh when k and bought a house
23:46
Speaker 1: in Costa Rica, um that I once spent a summer in.
23:49
Speaker 1: And it was a bad decision on this part. I think,
23:54
Speaker 1: Um he has since sold the house and gone back
23:57
Speaker 1: to work. It is a really beautiful depiction of I
24:01
Speaker 1: guess like kind of that wish fulfillment trope in like
24:04
Speaker 1: films of like, what would you do if you, like,
24:06
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, had all this money to spend
24:08
Speaker 1: in three or four weeks or whatever, and three or
24:10
Speaker 1: four weeks to live as well? I don't know what
24:13
Speaker 1: would you do if you found out you only you
24:16
Speaker 1: had less than a month to live and had a
24:18
Speaker 1: bunch of money to spend. What would you do? Well?
24:20
Speaker 1: I would immediately take up smoking again cigarette case I
24:23
Speaker 1: miss it and if I knew I was going to
24:25
Speaker 1: die anyways, you know, definitely I would definitely go on
24:28
Speaker 1: a European vacation probably, Um, where would you where? Where
24:34
Speaker 1: would be the first stop? M? I mean I'd have
24:38
Speaker 1: to see Paris? Yeah, of course. I would probably go
24:42
Speaker 1: to New York. I would probably be boring and go
24:44
Speaker 1: on like a vendor and see a bunch of shows.
24:49
Speaker 1: I would buy a bunch of Heroin and like just
24:53
Speaker 1: do it. What Yeah, that would be the thing you
24:56
Speaker 1: would do. Yeah Heroin. Out of all the things you
25:02
Speaker 1: could do, you're like Heroin. Yeah, Okay, got it, got it,
25:07
Speaker 1: got it, got it, got it, got it. By the way,
25:10
Speaker 1: when she goes to Europe in this film, um, I
25:13
Speaker 1: want to point out another thing that is as ridiculous
25:16
Speaker 1: as a cat scan being in a department store. She
25:21
Speaker 1: is in coach and she's like, why is supposed to
25:26
Speaker 1: keep leaning back against me, like I don't have any room?
25:29
Speaker 1: And then they're like, well that's because you didn't spend
25:32
Speaker 1: the money on first class, and she's like how much
25:35
Speaker 1: is it? And then it cuts to her like in
25:37
Speaker 1: first class with like lost or like the champagne or whatever,
25:40
Speaker 1: and I'm like, baby, there is the way you could
25:43
Speaker 1: just like give them some cash an upgrade. There's a
25:50
Speaker 1: lot of dollars, like delta, how do I do? This
25:56
Speaker 1: doesn't work like that and it's usually booked. Yeah, used
26:00
Speaker 1: to be like that. No, like it was never it
26:03
Speaker 1: was never that easy. But I mean her in first
26:05
Speaker 1: classes a moment as well as her um sitting down
26:09
Speaker 1: at like the fancy French restaurant. Is it French's Yeah,
26:13
Speaker 1: it's a French restaurant in the chef that she's always
26:15
Speaker 1: and she said, I'll take one of everything. Well, this
26:18
Speaker 1: is this is because also she's a foodie and loves cooking.
26:23
Speaker 1: She this is I think, Uh, this was during like
26:26
Speaker 1: Food Network, the Pinnacle of Food Network, and Emerald was
26:30
Speaker 1: on TV and so her Possibilities book is all like
26:33
Speaker 1: recipes that she was in the modern days, she'd be
26:38
Speaker 1: like on you know, like Tasty's Instagram. She like cooks
26:43
Speaker 1: all these amazing dishes and gives them to her neighbor
26:45
Speaker 1: and then eats Lean Cuisine. Um does that? Did anyone
26:49
Speaker 1: eat Lean cuisines? Did I remember those Swedish meatballs from
26:57
Speaker 1: Lean Cuisine? Hit? Oh? My good? Hit really hit. No,
27:03
Speaker 1: I'm just remembering it from like when I was broken
27:06
Speaker 1: New York. I guess I have I have some Swedish
27:09
Speaker 1: meatball trauma because of Ikea. Don't get me started the
27:14
Speaker 1: era where everyone was like, let's go to Ikea for
27:16
Speaker 1: the meat bawls. Weren't that damn good? No? No, and
27:19
Speaker 1: like they were acting like they were it, like that
27:23
Speaker 1: was culinary masterpiece, Like Queen Lativa cooked it and gave
27:27
Speaker 1: it to her neighbor. So so Queen Latifa. Um. She
27:33
Speaker 1: goes to the Grand Pop Hotel and she um like
27:40
Speaker 1: makes her way into this group of rich people. One
27:43
Speaker 1: of them is the guy who owns the department store
27:45
Speaker 1: that she used to work at something, and she's just
27:48
Speaker 1: doing all these amazing things. She goes base jumping. Oh
27:53
Speaker 1: we also forgot Queen Lativa's love interest in this movie
27:55
Speaker 1: is ll cool Ja who looks so good the movie
28:01
Speaker 1: l l in a movie, Yeah, like get get him up,
28:05
Speaker 1: the Kangol Hat, take him out of whatever. In c
28:09
Speaker 1: I S City, he's in Everybody's in a Damp Show?
28:13
Speaker 1: Or C S I. Which one is the one with
28:16
Speaker 1: the goth girl who's like the forensics, Yes, the Polly Parette, right,
28:23
Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I think it's n C I S.
28:25
Speaker 1: Maybe I think she left she had a stalker and
28:29
Speaker 1: it was a wild story. I love sker not for
28:34
Speaker 1: their safety, but stalkers in general, just like amuse me
28:38
Speaker 1: because everyone seems like a stalker these days. If you
28:41
Speaker 1: had to stop, if you were to stalk someone, if
28:43
Speaker 1: you see someone's tweets, it's just like, oh, you're stalking me,
28:46
Speaker 1: you know, like if Laura darn saw like a gay
28:50
Speaker 1: tweets about her, just like, oh, stalker behavior. But the
28:54
Speaker 1: stalker takes it to the next level of I'm outside
28:57
Speaker 1: your house. Yeah, if that's stalk anybody, who would it be?
29:01
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I don't know what mine answer would be, actually,
29:04
Speaker 1: I know it's like that sounds like a lot of
29:07
Speaker 1: effort to stalk someone. If if you had a stalker.
29:11
Speaker 1: Would you be secretly kind of into it? Oh? Absolutely,
29:14
Speaker 1: I'd be obsessed and then pretend to hate it. Would
29:16
Speaker 1: be like very Jena Maroni from Dirty Rock having like
29:19
Speaker 1: a relationship with her stalker. That would be me. I'd
29:22
Speaker 1: just be like showing her up to places with my
29:23
Speaker 1: friend's life guys, sunglasses on. I'm so sorry, I think
29:31
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, exactly, I had to get a gun
29:35
Speaker 1: this week security. So Queen Latifa is doing all these
29:41
Speaker 1: amazing activities and it turns out at the end she's
29:45
Speaker 1: not actually dying because the cat scan of the department
29:48
Speaker 1: store was faulty, right, which makes sense. Don't get a
29:52
Speaker 1: cat scan at your local department store. And it doesn't
29:55
Speaker 1: even it doesn't even seem like a Nordstrom kind of
29:58
Speaker 1: department store. It seems like Sears Level or Coals. It's
30:03
Speaker 1: called Coles has become a through line of this podcast.
30:08
Speaker 1: Did you spend a lot of time at Coles as
30:10
Speaker 1: a as a youth? Oh? Yeah, all of my outfits
30:13
Speaker 1: are from Coles. Is my favorite place to shop as
30:15
Speaker 1: a child, spot you can get back to school. Yeah,
30:19
Speaker 1: I have never jeans on sale. I've never been inside
30:22
Speaker 1: of Coles. Wow. Well, we went to Sears. I'm from Florida, Okay, yeah,
30:28
Speaker 1: from Milwaukee. Calls was very Midwest. How much cold cash?
30:33
Speaker 1: Do you have? Too much? I could last holiday, but
30:40
Speaker 1: I won't, but you good? Yes, Yes, I worked at
30:45
Speaker 1: a department store. Walk worked at Macy's. No way, what
30:49
Speaker 1: did you do? I worked in the women's shoe department.
30:51
Speaker 1: Of course, I also worked at a department store. I
30:55
Speaker 1: worked at Bloomingdale's and worked in the men's shoe department.
31:00
Speaker 1: But I worked at the blooming Deals in Soho Um
31:03
Speaker 1: for six months and then on New Year's Day, I
31:06
Speaker 1: had done a bunch of ecstasy the night before, and
31:09
Speaker 1: I was on the floor and was like the most
31:11
Speaker 1: hungover I've ever been. And I just looked around and said,
31:14
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore and walked out.
31:17
Speaker 1: You walked out kind of like Queen Lativa did, now
31:19
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about it, And I remember for weeks afterwards,
31:23
Speaker 1: um my manager like thought, I was in rehab and
31:26
Speaker 1: I was just watching Veronica Mars at home. Parallel taste.
31:30
Speaker 1: I worked at the mazeas in Um Milwaukee, which also
31:34
Speaker 1: mass and blooming Gales are basically the same store. Well,
31:36
Speaker 1: their parents coming yeah, yeah, um, sister, it's always wild
31:41
Speaker 1: thing like the Beverly Center. Here, it's like it's a
31:43
Speaker 1: maze's here, blooming gals, here be one store. Um. I
31:48
Speaker 1: worked in Milwaukee. It was so I moved here in
31:52
Speaker 1: there's a brief period where right when I moved here,
31:56
Speaker 1: I went broke and then I went home. For like
31:58
Speaker 1: three four months, I worked at the Macy's shoot apartment there,
32:04
Speaker 1: and I like just itching to get back to l A.
32:07
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I doing here? And basically every
32:10
Speaker 1: day to keep myself staying, I just told lies just
32:15
Speaker 1: fantastic lives are Like my coworkers what kind of like
32:20
Speaker 1: I think? I told them I was engaged. Love, that's good.
32:23
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I just got to get back
32:25
Speaker 1: to l A. You know, behind like my fiance he's there.
32:29
Speaker 1: What did your fiance do in this scenario? He worked
32:32
Speaker 1: in the music industry? I'm sure, yeah, I Love. Do
32:36
Speaker 1: you have any other poignant memories of working in a
32:38
Speaker 1: department store either you? Well, so did you work on commission? Yes? So,
32:45
Speaker 1: like the like the older people at the department store.
32:49
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense because capitalism, right, who work
32:52
Speaker 1: on commission like they are throw it commercial. It's if
33:00
Speaker 1: they see you talking to a customer that they like
33:03
Speaker 1: made even brief eye contact what they walked in the store,
33:06
Speaker 1: they will be up next to you like that's my customer, Ira.
33:11
Speaker 1: I'm like, al right, girl, get your commission. It's also
33:14
Speaker 1: such a the I think the scammiest thing about working
33:17
Speaker 1: in a department store is signing people up for credit cards. Yes,
33:20
Speaker 1: oh my god, Okay. I used to work in American
33:23
Speaker 1: Apparel R I P. M at the Flagship in New York,
33:26
Speaker 1: and we also worked on commission and they would have
33:28
Speaker 1: a white board with everybody's like commission sales on it
33:32
Speaker 1: and like arrange people and rank them. So that was
33:35
Speaker 1: the first thing you saw when you like clocked into
33:38
Speaker 1: work every day. It's also evil because for us, like
33:42
Speaker 1: I think most people have figured it out. But you
33:44
Speaker 1: can return anything to a department store. And the thing
33:48
Speaker 1: about Macy's was it used to be um Marshals um,
33:53
Speaker 1: and so you could return things that like you would
33:57
Speaker 1: bought at Marshal's and like the nineties, you return anything.
34:01
Speaker 1: That's the policy. I could take my bra off right
34:03
Speaker 1: now and return it at a Macy's anywhere in they
34:06
Speaker 1: take anything, and so The thing is you work on
34:09
Speaker 1: commission in Milwaukee, like it snows there. The thing that
34:13
Speaker 1: people would do would they would go and buy shoes
34:16
Speaker 1: for like the holidays are like New Year's or whatever,
34:18
Speaker 1: and then return them at the beginning of the year.
34:21
Speaker 1: So like the money that you make on commission, when
34:24
Speaker 1: someone returns it, that money comes back from dark yanked.
34:28
Speaker 1: It gets yanked from you. So like you could have
34:31
Speaker 1: a good ask Christmas and then in January when someone
34:34
Speaker 1: returns ship, like you have a bad year. Chat. Yeah,
34:38
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I mean I was so Yeah.
34:41
Speaker 1: I had moments where I would see a person that
34:43
Speaker 1: I had helped walk back in the store like a
34:45
Speaker 1: week later and just be crushed because I knew I
34:49
Speaker 1: never noticed. I was laser. I only worked in American
34:51
Speaker 1: mile for two months, but I was laser focused on
34:54
Speaker 1: being like sop top sales person because at the flash
34:57
Speaker 1: of American Apparel, the target demographics were like trust fund babies,
35:02
Speaker 1: their mom's, gay guys, and then like girls looking for
35:06
Speaker 1: Halloween costumes or girls looking for like outfits for their birthday.
35:10
Speaker 1: And I am like the perfect person to sell close
35:12
Speaker 1: to all of those people. You know what I mean,
35:15
Speaker 1: you are um Ira. What was your sales style? Like
35:19
Speaker 1: how did you get people to buy things? It would
35:22
Speaker 1: just sort of like you have to lead into the game.
35:25
Speaker 1: A girl look so good, like come on, give me
35:28
Speaker 1: a little walk. That would work on me. Actually no,
35:33
Speaker 1: I don't know because when I go into a store,
35:35
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to talk to me. And that's
35:38
Speaker 1: the problem too. It's like being on that side, but
35:42
Speaker 1: knowing when I walk into a store, it was like,
35:44
Speaker 1: leave me alone. Yeah, I will ask you for help
35:47
Speaker 1: if I need it, But to size great, give me
35:50
Speaker 1: this like you walk into it, like the Bloomingdale's here,
35:54
Speaker 1: Like you walk into I was like, you're looking at
35:56
Speaker 1: one shirt? Can I start a room for you? Baby? No?
35:58
Speaker 1: You cannot. God, okay. I My technique doing sales was
36:04
Speaker 1: I would walk up and I would say, uh, and
36:07
Speaker 1: if you need anything else, my name is Francisco, like
36:10
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Because they need to remember your name at
36:12
Speaker 1: the register. You gotta give them you gotta have a gimmick. Yeah, yeah,
36:15
Speaker 1: And that was always my thing, which is an insane
36:17
Speaker 1: thing to say to a person. They would always be
36:20
Speaker 1: like why didn't you just but that it would they
36:22
Speaker 1: would always remember my name. But I used to. I
36:24
Speaker 1: picked up at least two, if not three different guys
36:27
Speaker 1: while working at American Apparel. American Apparel was very crazy.
36:31
Speaker 1: Oh yeah crazy and yeah yeah people were gay idiots
36:39
Speaker 1: and gay shoplifters and like that was the shoplifting t
36:43
Speaker 1: was insane. I had friends. I had a friend who
36:46
Speaker 1: worked at American Apparel, like right after college and had
36:49
Speaker 1: figured out how to make it so that just when
36:52
Speaker 1: they rang people up, it was like zeroed out. So
36:55
Speaker 1: they would have their friends come in and bring them
36:57
Speaker 1: up at the register and they would just leave with
36:59
Speaker 1: bags of cloth. We would do that too, or in backstop,
37:02
Speaker 1: you like stuff or bags or whatever. Um. I used
37:05
Speaker 1: to steal from a Banana Republic like college. The Banana
37:10
Speaker 1: Republic game was and and m was the easiest to
37:16
Speaker 1: steal from. Yeah, it has become it has become so
37:20
Speaker 1: much harder to steal. But I've noticed on TikTok now
37:23
Speaker 1: there's some people who make um like shoplifting hack videos
37:27
Speaker 1: about where you can get away with it, and you
37:33
Speaker 1: know what, I you know what I love about shoplifting
37:35
Speaker 1: is people really think that they are like Carmen San
37:39
Speaker 1: Diego level spy getting away with it. No one knows
37:44
Speaker 1: when they're walking around targets stealing things like baby Girl.
37:47
Speaker 1: They know that they just don't care. The jig is up.
37:51
Speaker 1: They know that you are taking that like Hayndes underwear,
37:55
Speaker 1: like whatever. The only people who know, the only people
37:58
Speaker 1: who care are lost prevention. I don't care. I see
38:01
Speaker 1: you stealing something. I have a good day. I'm not
38:04
Speaker 1: chasing you out the store of this Gap. I did
38:07
Speaker 1: used to work at a GAP at a Banana Republic.
38:11
Speaker 1: Used to work at a Banana Republic also my my
38:14
Speaker 1: senior year of high school, like very briefly I worked.
38:17
Speaker 1: So I worked at Gap in undergrad and during the
38:21
Speaker 1: Red Campaign, by the way, and very very at the
38:29
Speaker 1: Michigan Avenue of Chicago one so like I was so
38:33
Speaker 1: sad that I started the day after like they got
38:38
Speaker 1: the job and then they scheduled my first day for
38:40
Speaker 1: the day after Oprah like came to the store and
38:43
Speaker 1: at the Red campaign on TV. Fuck you gap um.
38:47
Speaker 1: But then I went to Banana Republic. Uh, And Banana
38:52
Speaker 1: Republic was the job that I used to transfer to.
38:56
Speaker 1: When I moved to New York. I worked at the
38:59
Speaker 1: rock Fellow Center. Been a Republic. I think I worked
39:01
Speaker 1: for eight shifts day. I just stopped coming in. That's
39:07
Speaker 1: how you have to do it in retail because like
39:09
Speaker 1: we're in, when you're working in retail, everyone's interchangeable, like
39:13
Speaker 1: they will forget about you immediately. I'm I'm a really
39:16
Speaker 1: bad retail employee. I do not know how to sell
39:18
Speaker 1: to people. I don't care if they buy anything. I'm
39:21
Speaker 1: just they're trying to, you know, like get my money.
39:24
Speaker 1: The best job was, honestly being at the cash register
39:28
Speaker 1: because turn off your brain and you were scanning people.
39:31
Speaker 1: Don't put me on the sales floor. Also, I have
39:33
Speaker 1: to say in Bloomingdale's, the music that they played was hitting.
39:37
Speaker 1: I don't know who was making those playlists, but I
39:40
Speaker 1: heard it put me onto a lot of things. But
39:42
Speaker 1: like before they came out, So I mean, thank you too,
39:46
Speaker 1: whoever I constantly heard. Is it any wonder it was?
39:52
Speaker 1: I loved? Was it okay? So this is taking us
40:07
Speaker 1: back to sort of, you know, like the moment I
40:10
Speaker 1: guess that last holiday was released in you know, like
40:13
Speaker 1: early mid adds culture. Yeah, two thousand six. Um, Queen
40:19
Speaker 1: Latifa was I think hot off the heels of Chicago
40:24
Speaker 1: and she had done Taxi beauty shop, like she was
40:27
Speaker 1: in a lot of these, and this was really her
40:29
Speaker 1: first rom com roll because she had always been you know,
40:33
Speaker 1: she was Matron Mama Morton and Chicago, and she kind
40:37
Speaker 1: of always did like buddy comedy movies and which I
40:43
Speaker 1: used to own bringing down the house. But this was
40:47
Speaker 1: her first leading lady rom com roll, and unfortunately it
40:53
Speaker 1: was a flop. Yeah, it's sad because it's so good.
40:57
Speaker 1: It's so good, holds up. I think it's really funny.
41:00
Speaker 1: She's so charismatic carry like the plant of it in
41:04
Speaker 1: and of itself is like obviously very predictable, but she
41:07
Speaker 1: well it's also based on it's a rewike of like
41:11
Speaker 1: a nineteen fifties you know movie or whatever. But she's
41:14
Speaker 1: like so charismatic and she like carries and there's I mean,
41:17
Speaker 1: there had never been really a rom com with someone
41:22
Speaker 1: like her as like, you know, the romantic lead, you
41:25
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think I'm thinking a lot
41:27
Speaker 1: about um. Do you remember when like Rebel Wilson was
41:30
Speaker 1: like she was like I also I also tried to
41:36
Speaker 1: personal beat well. First of all, background was like Rebel
41:40
Speaker 1: Wilson was all like I'm the first plus size person
41:44
Speaker 1: to be in a romantically blah blah blah, and everyone
41:47
Speaker 1: was like, Um, Queen Latifa is right there, Ricky Lake
41:50
Speaker 1: is right there. I don't know if that was I
41:54
Speaker 1: don't know if that was a great Rebel Wilson because
41:55
Speaker 1: she saw Australia. Oh is she really? I actually had
41:58
Speaker 1: no idea. Well, she's my Nemessida tell us Okay, So
42:04
Speaker 1: I was it. When I was still a journalist. I
42:06
Speaker 1: was in London for the Cats Junket, and you know
42:11
Speaker 1: for that movie, everyone had to be like pre approved
42:15
Speaker 1: by the talents teams for you to be interviewing them. Um.
42:18
Speaker 1: The night before I was in my hotel in London,
42:21
Speaker 1: I was on Grinder and someone hit me up and
42:24
Speaker 1: and said like, you look like Rebel Wilson. And I said, oh,
42:28
Speaker 1: that's funny, which I was like, I didn't know if
42:31
Speaker 1: it was a compliment or not. I think she's pretty um,
42:34
Speaker 1: but I thought it was funny because I was interviewing
42:37
Speaker 1: her the next day. So I took a screenshot of
42:39
Speaker 1: it and tweeted it and said like, l O L
42:42
Speaker 1: this is, you know, funny because I'm interviewing her tomorrow.
42:45
Speaker 1: I showed up to check in and the PR girl
42:49
Speaker 1: who was leading the junket, was like, um, just so
42:52
Speaker 1: you know, you won't be interviewing Rebel anymore. And and
42:56
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, can you tell me why? And
43:00
Speaker 1: she said, okay, I'll get back to you, and hours
43:02
Speaker 1: later they said yeah, apparently her publicists just like you know,
43:08
Speaker 1: said that they changed their minds about having you interview her.
43:12
Speaker 1: And I did. I do think that her publicist was
43:15
Speaker 1: you know, like trolling like or like looked up all
43:18
Speaker 1: the journalists to make sure no one was gonna, you know,
43:20
Speaker 1: like catch her out with a question or whatever. You
43:23
Speaker 1: know what. I'm sure like the interview would have been
43:25
Speaker 1: bad anyway, but that is my what have to say truly,
43:31
Speaker 1: And also like because I think the problem was because
43:34
Speaker 1: when I tweeted, I said, wouldn't it be funny if
43:36
Speaker 1: I brought this up during the interview And I wasn't
43:39
Speaker 1: going to. But also that would have been funny. And
43:42
Speaker 1: those interviews, interviews are so awful, and when I when
43:48
Speaker 1: I did them, I always tried to like make them
43:50
Speaker 1: at least a little fun. And when you have a
43:53
Speaker 1: good like good talent, they respond to it. For those
43:57
Speaker 1: of you that don't know what a junket is, it's
43:59
Speaker 1: based really like when they corral dozens of journalists, many
44:03
Speaker 1: of them from like sealist and dealist, like you know,
44:06
Speaker 1: media publications, and each of them gets two to four
44:10
Speaker 1: minutes to interview celebrities in this like death carousel of
44:16
Speaker 1: like interviews, um for whatever movie. It is like that's
44:19
Speaker 1: the same thing every time. At least you get a
44:24
Speaker 1: little glam though sometimes because you're on camera for these junks.
44:27
Speaker 1: But sometimes it can go wrong because sometimes they have
44:29
Speaker 1: like one person doing hair and makeup and it can
44:34
Speaker 1: be rough. I hate the weird hotel. It's like I
44:39
Speaker 1: don't love I tried to make them fun, and I
44:41
Speaker 1: think that's why I like some of the some of
44:44
Speaker 1: the interviews I've done have like gotten like good response,
44:48
Speaker 1: and I think if I had been able to interview
44:51
Speaker 1: Rebel Wilson, we would have had a great time, a
44:53
Speaker 1: great time because also I looked I'd like watched some
44:56
Speaker 1: of the interviews she did afterwards, and I feel like
44:58
Speaker 1: she was the one who was bringing up like, isn't
45:01
Speaker 1: it so weird that like my my cat character is
45:04
Speaker 1: naked and you can't see my vagina like whatever, Like yeah, um,
45:09
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean back to the main part of
45:12
Speaker 1: the discussion. I mean Queen Latifa, I feel like, I mean,
45:16
Speaker 1: I were like, what's your relationship to like the cultural
45:18
Speaker 1: relevance of Queen Lativa, Queen Latifa, either at that time
45:22
Speaker 1: or now or like to me, like, I feel like
45:25
Speaker 1: her charisma really carries what could have been like a
45:27
Speaker 1: very mediocre movie, right, Like, if you put anybody else
45:29
Speaker 1: in that role, it really would not have been an
45:32
Speaker 1: engaging watch. But she's so delightful to watch and actually,
45:36
Speaker 1: like Roger Ebert and other critics at the time kind
45:38
Speaker 1: of said similar things, even if they, you know, we're
45:40
Speaker 1: kind of shady about the film. I've loved her to
45:44
Speaker 1: live in single, you know, so like you grew up
45:46
Speaker 1: on Miss Latifa, and um, that was a good era
45:50
Speaker 1: for her. I mean, her career has always been so interesting.
45:52
Speaker 1: I think because of that she was a black celebrity
45:55
Speaker 1: and so it was sort of like she had this
45:57
Speaker 1: relevance and also from like her hip pop career that
46:01
Speaker 1: was before, which she didn't really do much of that anymore,
46:05
Speaker 1: but it was just sort of She's just always a person,
46:07
Speaker 1: you know, is like a celebrity, this Queen Latifa, you know,
46:10
Speaker 1: like she is a a Staple. Uh. And it was
46:13
Speaker 1: nice seeing her get to do this but didn't really
46:16
Speaker 1: work out, you know, like you think about this, you
46:18
Speaker 1: think about just right. Yeah, where she's like from she's
46:23
Speaker 1: romancing Common. She is is a physical therapist who loves basketball,
46:31
Speaker 1: and Common has an injury and she's working as his
46:35
Speaker 1: physical therapist. But her sister is into Common. The sisters
46:39
Speaker 1: like going on dates with Common, but they have and
46:41
Speaker 1: I think the sister baby Paula Patton uh, and they have,
46:45
Speaker 1: but they start to fall for each other. That seems inappropriate,
46:49
Speaker 1: That seems like a professional boundary, maybe like the beginning
46:55
Speaker 1: of a medical malpractice immediately sued. But I mean, I
46:59
Speaker 1: think is I wonder if that movie was successful when
47:03
Speaker 1: Last Holiday wasn't. And I wonder if maybe, like you know,
47:06
Speaker 1: because Queen Lativa is queer question Mark and like she's
47:13
Speaker 1: acknowledged it, she's acknowledged her partner okay recently, and so
47:17
Speaker 1: maybe like there was some dissonance with her being like
47:21
Speaker 1: a straight romantic lead in these rom coms. But don't
47:26
Speaker 1: debut at number four behind Iron Man two, Robin Hood
47:30
Speaker 1: and Letters to Juliet Oh, Letters to Juliett. I'm gonna
47:36
Speaker 1: google right film stated theater seven days. Oh wow. But
47:43
Speaker 1: but you know, like she put she put butts in
47:47
Speaker 1: the seats because when we talked about Last Holiday, it
47:50
Speaker 1: was Queen Latifa in Last Holidays. It could not have
47:53
Speaker 1: been anyone else. She was the moment, she had the chrisma.
47:59
Speaker 1: That movie was I'm sure written for her specifically, and
48:04
Speaker 1: she slayed something that I only realized retroactively as well. Say, um,
48:10
Speaker 1: Chloe and Hallie Bailey made their acting debut in this movie.
48:13
Speaker 1: They play like five year olds in this movie. I
48:16
Speaker 1: had no idea. I only saw like after I read
48:18
Speaker 1: the IMDb um for Last Holiday. You know what the
48:21
Speaker 1: one that was I think successful before that was um
48:29
Speaker 1: Beauty Shot Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I mean
48:32
Speaker 1: that was massive and that was Steel Magnolia's right. It
48:35
Speaker 1: was supposed to like be a quote unquote adaptation of
48:38
Speaker 1: Steel Magnolias or something like that. I don't know, but
48:40
Speaker 1: I love that. I should say it was just sisters
48:43
Speaker 1: in the Barbershop that's been off of Barbershop. Um, yeah,
48:48
Speaker 1: but I think that. I mean, I don't know which
48:51
Speaker 1: Like Rose and I watched this movie um Last Holiday, um,
48:56
Speaker 1: and it was like for me like such a um,
49:00
Speaker 1: it was such a like an example of like what
49:04
Speaker 1: it means to like enjoy your life. And obviously, like
49:06
Speaker 1: I don't think the film is trying to make this commentary,
49:08
Speaker 1: but it was very like, you know, fuck the man,
49:11
Speaker 1: fuck your nine to five, fuck like you know, are
49:13
Speaker 1: broken health care because like, well it's also very of
49:15
Speaker 1: its time. It's pre Obama, pre recessional recession. You know,
49:21
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow it all. Yeah, yeah, And I think
49:24
Speaker 1: in the movie, she like she could her health insurance
49:28
Speaker 1: doesn't cover the procedure she needs. Yeah, she goes to
49:31
Speaker 1: see that woman and the woman tells her it would
49:33
Speaker 1: be like a crazy amount of money to get the surgery.
49:36
Speaker 1: But also I feel like, is that how much money
49:38
Speaker 1: she spends going on this holiday? Die? Which is a serve?
49:44
Speaker 1: It's it's it's I feel like movies of this ilk
49:48
Speaker 1: always lead into that though that like capitalism is like
49:52
Speaker 1: the man is bad, like bosses or mean workers, that
49:55
Speaker 1: it never translates, but the world like that capitalism is bad.
50:01
Speaker 1: Let me go spend all this money and buy all
50:03
Speaker 1: these things that will make me happy before I die.
50:05
Speaker 1: But they do make her happy, they would make me happy. Well,
50:08
Speaker 1: but the moral that she learns at the end is
50:10
Speaker 1: that it's actually she's actually not happy being all alone
50:13
Speaker 1: in this place that she's dreamed of all her life.
50:16
Speaker 1: She wants to go back and be with the people
50:17
Speaker 1: who love her. But by that point L cool J
50:20
Speaker 1: has flown to Prague to see her, to see her,
50:23
Speaker 1: and she's dying, I love you. And it's very romantic
50:28
Speaker 1: because because the nosy neighbor shows him her Possibilities book
50:34
Speaker 1: and he's in it, which also she's right all back.
50:40
Speaker 1: It's really creepy. She's cut out his picture and her,
50:44
Speaker 1: She's cut out their faces and put them on a
50:47
Speaker 1: wedding photo, which, oh my god, I didn't even think
50:50
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know if I saw that, well,
50:52
Speaker 1: I probably would be flattered and I would be too,
50:55
Speaker 1: but anybody else would be like what the fuck. But
50:58
Speaker 1: also at the end of the movie, doesn't she she
51:02
Speaker 1: doesn't the seat the boss or the CEO or whatever,
51:06
Speaker 1: like yes of alleged and like she tells him like
51:12
Speaker 1: life's worth living for, doesn't he want to jump because
51:17
Speaker 1: he's like so destroyed by the fact that a woman
51:20
Speaker 1: like Queen Latifa could have a better life than him
51:23
Speaker 1: or something like. That's kind of why he decides to
51:25
Speaker 1: commit suicide. Yeah, and also his assistant, who is his mistress,
51:30
Speaker 1: has left him because Queen, because feeble power. Queen Latifa
51:35
Speaker 1: was like, girl, you're better than him and this job.
51:39
Speaker 1: You should do his job. Why are you sleeping with
51:41
Speaker 1: him and being the mistress? And honestly they should have
51:44
Speaker 1: gotten together. That's how the movie should have ended as
51:46
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa and the red headed assistant. I do appreciate that. Like,
52:07
Speaker 1: even though it is a rum come, I do feel
52:09
Speaker 1: like when I watched this movie, it was predominantly spent
52:12
Speaker 1: on like between Latifa, just like bibing, you know, just
52:15
Speaker 1: like enjoying her life. The makeover Vermontage, a magup Vermontage
52:20
Speaker 1: for all makeup Vermontages. What are some of your favorite
52:23
Speaker 1: makeup vermontag isn't God definitely clueless? Obviously Princess Diremies Devils
52:31
Speaker 1: product that is that is, I mean, that is the
52:35
Speaker 1: iconic one, and then you get yes, such a vogue
52:39
Speaker 1: and then it in then it ends with you know,
52:43
Speaker 1: the are those the which I think we as a
52:48
Speaker 1: community as a community need to let that it. It's
52:53
Speaker 1: gotta go that along with like high Gay or like whatever.
52:56
Speaker 1: I think High Gay is like recent enough that it's
52:59
Speaker 1: still funny and there's more permutations of it to be done.
53:02
Speaker 1: It's been a very long time. It's it's been when Christmas,
53:08
Speaker 1: people do right, but people do the right? Are you
53:12
Speaker 1: the eighth grade report card that I had my mom's basement. Yeah,
53:16
Speaker 1: it's like all right, like everyone makes it into a
53:22
Speaker 1: new thing. Let it. Actually, as much as I love
53:26
Speaker 1: that movie, Devil wors Product, discourse could leave the Internet. Well,
53:31
Speaker 1: the real villain of the the real villain of the
53:36
Speaker 1: Devil war Is product is the friends we made along
53:38
Speaker 1: the way. I think I tweet it was in my
53:41
Speaker 1: hey day. I think I tweeted that the real in
53:44
Speaker 1: the Devil Words product is all of you who were
53:46
Speaker 1: shut up about this movie. I mean, Devil wors product is.
53:52
Speaker 1: Can we categorize as a rom com? Also? I guess
53:55
Speaker 1: technically maybe it's a workplace comedy, and it's a workplace comedy,
53:59
Speaker 1: But you know, in the antheon of rom coms. You know,
54:01
Speaker 1: as we're talking about Last Holiday, what are some of
54:04
Speaker 1: your favorites? Yes, what are the best rob coms? One
54:09
Speaker 1: of mine is Last Holiday. We were just talking about
54:11
Speaker 1: how those are. That's like, literally Rosen my favorite. I'm Christmas.
54:14
Speaker 1: Maybe don't watch the Holidays. The holiday we're talking about,
54:18
Speaker 1: last holiday, last holiday. The holiday. Pretty Woman of course
54:23
Speaker 1: is really iconic and like it's a it's a rom
54:28
Speaker 1: com about a SECS worker, which I think is like
54:31
Speaker 1: pretty cool. My best friend's wedding, Oh, my best friend's
54:35
Speaker 1: wedding is it is Julia Roberts does a rom com. Okay,
54:40
Speaker 1: America Sweethearts not one of my favorites, but it's it's good.
54:45
Speaker 1: But yeah, my best friend's wedding is the moment Cameron
54:48
Speaker 1: Diaz's performance, and that is incredible. Yes, the scene in
54:52
Speaker 1: the bathroom alone, I've never said that I would have
54:56
Speaker 1: killed her if that. If I was getting married and
54:59
Speaker 1: that was going on, I would have said, Julie Roberts,
55:02
Speaker 1: you're dead. You've never seen it. Wait, this is my
55:05
Speaker 1: best friend's wedding or yeah, oh, I have seen my
55:07
Speaker 1: best wedding, and I remember empathizing with the diabolical nature
55:11
Speaker 1: of trying to break up this marriage. I also love
55:14
Speaker 1: the way it ends, because it ends with her not
55:17
Speaker 1: winning and her being alone at the wedding and her
55:20
Speaker 1: gay best friend comes and it's like, yeah, this sucks,
55:24
Speaker 1: but like we have each other, who plays the gay
55:26
Speaker 1: best friend again? So it opens up with like the
55:31
Speaker 1: musical number that is that is cinema. Okay, that is
55:38
Speaker 1: that is a good time at the movies. Marty Scorsese
55:41
Speaker 1: agrees that is what we need back in film. Okay.
55:46
Speaker 1: Oh god. I think my ultimate rom com obviously is
55:49
Speaker 1: going to be Moonstruck. I mean I have it like
55:51
Speaker 1: tattooed on my leg. I guess that is. It is
55:53
Speaker 1: a rom com technique. Yeah it is. It's like a
55:55
Speaker 1: prestige rama, is it, I mean, is it? Yeah? Yeah.
56:00
Speaker 1: I was gonna be like, because there's always the romantic dramas,
56:03
Speaker 1: but it is a romantic comedy. It's comedy. Yeah, it's
56:06
Speaker 1: intentionally comedic. I do. I do love a rom com.
56:12
Speaker 1: And I think this era that Last Holiday came out
56:15
Speaker 1: in was kind of the golden age of rom com
56:18
Speaker 1: by the way they were really cranking them out, because
56:21
Speaker 1: this was when j Lo was making all of her
56:24
Speaker 1: rom coms. Kate Hudson, you know, the girls were working,
56:29
Speaker 1: they were booked and busy turning these out a couple
56:32
Speaker 1: of times a year. I love a teen rom com too,
56:35
Speaker 1: you know, like, um, get over it never seen it
56:39
Speaker 1: as a classic. Uh and then um, well the other
56:44
Speaker 1: two I love like feel more like Devils was probably
56:46
Speaker 1: probably work force comedy. It's like, don't tell me, I'm
56:48
Speaker 1: the babysitter's dad as elements, but I think it's a
56:52
Speaker 1: workless or a family comedy. Why would you classify that movie.
56:56
Speaker 1: I don't even know these like kind of a family comedy. Yeah,
57:00
Speaker 1: there's hijinks and working girl, but it seems more like workplace. Um,
57:07
Speaker 1: just like Devil, But I don't know. I like Devil.
57:10
Speaker 1: I love that we've shortened it Devil. I was on
57:13
Speaker 1: the plane the other day watching Devil, and then people
57:16
Speaker 1: think you're talking about the night movie. Oh, that was
57:19
Speaker 1: a horrible movie. Just takes place on an elevator, Yes,
57:24
Speaker 1: it did. The whole movie takes place on an elevator,
57:27
Speaker 1: which is probably where I will die on an elevator,
57:30
Speaker 1: really on the Tower of Terror. On the Tower of Terror,
57:34
Speaker 1: so you would die going up, or you would die
57:36
Speaker 1: in the actual right itself. Well, now it's guards in
57:38
Speaker 1: the Galaxy. Oh it changed in l A. But in
57:42
Speaker 1: Florida for like lawsuit reasons, because no, because they just
57:46
Speaker 1: wanted to add a Marvel ride but tower. People have
57:51
Speaker 1: died on the Tower of tot Also, have you seen
57:54
Speaker 1: the Tower of Terror movie starring Kirsten Dunst. It was
57:58
Speaker 1: a Disney Channel original movie about Tower of Terror. I
58:02
Speaker 1: think it can maybe just a ride like as a
58:05
Speaker 1: way to promote it. I feel like I've seen every
58:08
Speaker 1: Disney Channel original every day. Yes you know that. I
58:13
Speaker 1: that the girls were working specific age. If you were,
58:19
Speaker 1: if you were watching Disney Channel as like like middle
58:23
Speaker 1: school high school, you were like Friday Disney. If you
58:29
Speaker 1: were our Lord and Savior Christy Carlson, Romano and newly
58:32
Speaker 1: minted gay icon who also probably voted for drum Probably
58:37
Speaker 1: um wait, I have seen this, Steve Guttenberg, Steve Gutenberg, Yes,
58:45
Speaker 1: this is wild. If your life was a rom com,
58:50
Speaker 1: what would the premise be? Love? I mean, I know
58:55
Speaker 1: myself and my Leo behavior. My rom com would be
58:59
Speaker 1: the one where like, oh, you're like you're you're like
59:02
Speaker 1: in a high powered job and like you're you're sort
59:05
Speaker 1: of mean and like you you yell at people and
59:08
Speaker 1: then um, some like some person who like comes across
59:12
Speaker 1: your path, Um, you find love? Love that I know exactly, Yeah,
59:16
Speaker 1: you know, or like you know, I also think I
59:18
Speaker 1: would be very much like intolerable cruelty like me and
59:22
Speaker 1: my Like I could see myself in a rom com
59:24
Speaker 1: where it's someone helps me find love, or it's the
59:28
Speaker 1: reverse ones where it's like you are falling out of
59:31
Speaker 1: love and you're feuding with your partner and then you
59:33
Speaker 1: get back together at the ends, right right, you know
59:35
Speaker 1: little Adam's rib moment. Mine would also be a workplace
59:39
Speaker 1: comedy of some a workplace romcom of some kind, but
59:42
Speaker 1: it would definitely be more of like an ugly Betty
59:45
Speaker 1: scenario where I am, like, you know, executive assistant, like
59:50
Speaker 1: can't fend for myself really like you know, just like
59:53
Speaker 1: kind of bottom of the verial person in the environment.
59:55
Speaker 1: And then it would definitely be makeover montage to like
59:58
Speaker 1: win the guy or some thing like that. I don't know,
1:00:01
Speaker 1: maybe my boss. Maybe it'd be a little risque, like
1:00:03
Speaker 1: there's an element of like, you know, uh, forbiddenness to
1:00:07
Speaker 1: our relationship. But I'm sure woman assistant love that pretty
1:00:12
Speaker 1: woman meets the intern. Yeah, the intern y Yeah. And
1:00:15
Speaker 1: my rom com would just be She's the man starring
1:00:17
Speaker 1: a man to mine. No, that movie is iconic remains
1:00:23
Speaker 1: in like the non binary of Pam Beyond. It's like
1:00:26
Speaker 1: truly a transnarrative. I mean, my rom comm would definitely
1:00:29
Speaker 1: be like derivative of a Shakespeare play. As I think,
1:00:33
Speaker 1: you know, like some of the best rom coms we
1:00:37
Speaker 1: have are based on classic literature. That's our era, that's
1:00:41
Speaker 1: our era. They were, they were studios were like, who's
1:00:46
Speaker 1: the shakespeak another romo and Juliet Let Yeah, I want
1:00:53
Speaker 1: to I want to do a rom com based on
1:00:54
Speaker 1: the Tempest. That would be amazing. Get over it is
1:00:59
Speaker 1: been somewhere nice dream by the way, no way, Kirsten
1:01:03
Speaker 1: Dunt and they are doing a production of Midsummer Night's
1:01:06
Speaker 1: Dream play within a play. Yeah you got you gotta
1:01:09
Speaker 1: see this movie. It opens up with him him being
1:01:12
Speaker 1: dumped and um vitamin C and the rest of the
1:01:16
Speaker 1: town like show up behind him and saying Captain and
1:01:19
Speaker 1: Tinneil's love will bring us together. I love that. So
1:01:22
Speaker 1: as we talk about rom coms, I think rom coms
1:01:26
Speaker 1: were the way that a lot of us like learned
1:01:29
Speaker 1: what we thought relationships were like. But what I'm interested
1:01:33
Speaker 1: in is things that we found like sexy as kids
1:01:37
Speaker 1: are like that we thought were the models of what
1:01:40
Speaker 1: sexuality were like, and so I'm really interested in, like
1:01:44
Speaker 1: through media, what your first experience of something you thought
1:01:47
Speaker 1: was kind of sexy, you're like erotic? What? So I'll
1:01:50
Speaker 1: give my example, which is the Flintstones movie which one
1:01:56
Speaker 1: Viva Rock Vegas the originally so first some reason halle
1:02:01
Speaker 1: Berry and Kyle McLaughlin had to me this like insane
1:02:07
Speaker 1: electric sexual chemistry. And I remember as a child being like,
1:02:12
Speaker 1: this is hot and this is how like adults are
1:02:15
Speaker 1: sexy with each other? Is there like scheming and like, um, barefoot,
1:02:22
Speaker 1: I love a scheme? Yeah, Taylor was in this movie. Yes,
1:02:27
Speaker 1: I feel like made me feel like every romance he
1:02:30
Speaker 1: pursue needs to have obstacles. Yeah, you can't just beat
1:02:34
Speaker 1: somebody and start dating them. It's you have to overcome
1:02:38
Speaker 1: them having another boyfriend, or it's like you are across
1:02:42
Speaker 1: the globe from each other, or someone's scheming to keep
1:02:44
Speaker 1: you apart. It's like you get turned on by obstacles. Unless,
1:02:48
Speaker 1: of course, as we've discussed on this podcast before, it
1:02:50
Speaker 1: is Twilight and there is no plot in the movie
1:02:53
Speaker 1: at all, and there's no stakes to their relationship in
1:02:55
Speaker 1: any way, and you're just in love and one of
1:02:57
Speaker 1: you's a vampire. Yeah, Ira, what was your media sexual awakening?
1:03:03
Speaker 1: I think about that. I mean it's so base, which
1:03:07
Speaker 1: was I love horror movies, but you're like one elm Street,
1:03:10
Speaker 1: you know, And it's it's not just like to like
1:03:14
Speaker 1: the actual homoe erotic one. It's just like, wouldn't I
1:03:17
Speaker 1: feel like those movies gave you like a hot guy
1:03:21
Speaker 1: like a Johnny Depp or something. Yes, in a crop
1:03:24
Speaker 1: top being stalked by the killer. Back to stalking, Yeah,
1:03:28
Speaker 1: back to stalking. Honestly, this whole podcast is rounding to
1:03:31
Speaker 1: a point, which is that stalking is hot and should
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