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ROGER WATERS vs. JAMES HETFIELD: WHY'S EVERYONE SO SENSITIVE? | CMS LIVE 10/17/26 · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_02: It is your classic metal show right here on theclassicmetalshow.com.
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SPEAKER_02: Kicking off the show tonight,
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SPEAKER_02: we heard something from Scorpions right there with the Passion Rules the Game.
0:26
SPEAKER_02: And we heard down from the NOLA release with Stone the Crow and a guy who knows just
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SPEAKER_02: a little bit about getting stoned, my good friend and partner, Chris Aiken.
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SPEAKER_02: What's going on there, Chris?
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SPEAKER_01: I was paying no attention.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm messaging you.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm messaging Stevie Rochelle.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm doing all kinds of shit.
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SPEAKER_01: Tell Stevie we're doing a show.
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SPEAKER_01: Leave us alone.
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SPEAKER_01: I just did.
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SPEAKER_01: I told him.
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SPEAKER_01: I told Ed, who's also emailing me about things.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, I'm busy.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm doing a show.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm doing live broadcast here.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm creating.
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SPEAKER_02: Leave me alone, goddammit.
1:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm very important.
1:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you think I come and shit on your parade?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Get out of here.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: So what's going on, man?
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SPEAKER_02: You good?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm all good.
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SPEAKER_02: All good.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just, you know, a change in the season.
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SPEAKER_02: Amen.
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SPEAKER_02: I was feeling it this week a little bit with the temperatures dropping off and rainy
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SPEAKER_02: and dreary and dark and overcast.
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SPEAKER_02: And this part of the season always has a negative effect on me, you know, biologically.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I had a...
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SPEAKER_02: Like earlier this week,
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SPEAKER_02: in the middle of the week,
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SPEAKER_02: I started getting that cold body ache,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, and it lasted for about, yeah, probably about 24 hours.
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SPEAKER_02: I just started feeling the,
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SPEAKER_02: like the damp, cold,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: of the weather creeping in on me,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: and just kind of working a lot of hours and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, a lot of stress and things and All I did was work and sleep this week.
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SPEAKER_02: I came home and there was one night I didn't even eat dinner or nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: I just went straight to bed.
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SPEAKER_02: I just took some Advil and went to bed.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: Look at you.
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SPEAKER_01: You're turning into me.
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SPEAKER_01: This is like opposite week.
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SPEAKER_01: You're turning into me.
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SPEAKER_01: I was out three different times this week.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like I turned into you.
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SPEAKER_01: You turned into me this week.
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SPEAKER_01: Craziness.
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SPEAKER_02: I was out last weekend.
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SPEAKER_02: I was out to see Wasp and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_02: And I went out Sunday and,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, but back to work on Monday and doing what I do through the week.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just like, Jesus.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm glad for the business and I'm glad that I'm as busy as I am.
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SPEAKER_02: But, man, sometimes it's just.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, it just comes at you in waves.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's like one slow day, just one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: And I didn't have that.
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SPEAKER_02: And I felt well enough to go out last night and go visit with my bartender friend,
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SPEAKER_02: Russell, and shoot the shit with him for a while.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I didn't stay out very late.
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SPEAKER_02: I got home, I think, maybe 8.30 or 9 o'clock.
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SPEAKER_02: But still, I did go out.
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SPEAKER_02: I was, you know, I said, I got to get out of the house, man.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been You know, working home, working home, working home, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I did go out, and I feel better now.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel good.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel fine.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's good.
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SPEAKER_02: But earlier in the week, I was just like, ugh.
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SPEAKER_02: Then I thought of you one Thursday.
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SPEAKER_02: I was just like, I hope Chris ventured out to go see that Wasp show, and obviously you did.
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SPEAKER_02: Boy, did I.
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SPEAKER_02: So we'll look forward to hearing your story about going to the show.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: You know,
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SPEAKER_02: it was Thursday and I was going to give you a call and I go,
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SPEAKER_02: oh, wait a minute, Chris is out at the show.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, well, at least I hope he went to the show.
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SPEAKER_02: He didn't talk himself out of it.
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SPEAKER_02: I did not.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, or forget.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I know you've had tickets to go see things and then you go,
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SPEAKER_02: God damn it, I just totally forgot the show was tonight.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep, that has totally happened too.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm usually bad at it,
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SPEAKER_01: but I'm trying, like I've said for months now, I'm trying to get out there.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to, I literally put the shit on my calendar now so that it's a little less easy.
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SPEAKER_01: I know I could just blow it off, but.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know, my OCD or whatever won't let me.
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SPEAKER_01: So, you know, so I venture out.
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SPEAKER_01: I do what's on my calendar.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, good for you.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm glad to see you're sticking with it.
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SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I see you on a weekly basis, obviously, through the video and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: And, boy, I can tell in your face, you know, the weight is slowly coming off.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm in no hurry.
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SPEAKER_01: Look, it took me.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, it didn't take me 30 years to get it, but I've carried it for 30 years.
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SPEAKER_01: So, you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just slowly,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: the thing that's been good about that,
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SPEAKER_01: and I don't want to turn this into a whole diet talk, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but people are interested in your health and your longevity and, you know, your wellness.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: The thing that's been cool is that I really haven't, I don't know, changed too much stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not, once I got past that first couple of weeks of the, you know, the fasting.
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SPEAKER_01: And it became my normal because now I'm at like three months or something.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what I'm at at this point, but.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's about three months.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's my routine now.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not getting up thinking,
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SPEAKER_01: well, you know, maybe if I just have a bagel or if I have some toast or, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, if you don't have that in the house, you won't be tempted to have that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, and I don't have it in the house, which is good, but that doesn't stop me.
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SPEAKER_01: Believe me,
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SPEAKER_01: if I have the urge for a bagel,
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SPEAKER_01: it's not that big of a run for me to jump in the car and run down to Dunkin'
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SPEAKER_01: and get one.
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SPEAKER_02: Or go to Sheetz and have a Schmegel.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's that too.
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SPEAKER_01: And I can get a discount on that.
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SPEAKER_01: But I just don't now.
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SPEAKER_01: Now it's just...
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SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I've gotten into...
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SPEAKER_01: I've been doing some social media stuff on the side for Seth's day job for
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SPEAKER_01: the Jake Underwood show, doing some video editing and whatnot for them.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, they end at 12 o'clock.
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SPEAKER_01: So I've just kind of got it in my routine now is that I turn it on and I listen to
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SPEAKER_01: a little bit of what they're doing for like the last hour of their show
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SPEAKER_01: while I'm doing my thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And then when, and Jake, he's OCD too, and he has to close his show the same way every time.
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SPEAKER_01: And part of his close every single time is, hey, congratulations, it's lunchtime, go enjoy it.
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SPEAKER_01: And as dumb as that is, it clicks in my head.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, it is lunchtime.
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SPEAKER_01: It's Pavlov's dog.
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SPEAKER_01: It is.
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SPEAKER_01: Somebody's ringing the bell and I'm going chomping, looking for food.
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SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get you.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I told you,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: a week or so ago that this whole month I've just been listening to
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SPEAKER_02: the old O&A Jocktober.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's what I've been listening to when I go to sleep at night is it's Jocktober, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: And I put together the whole playlist from 2008 to 2013.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So there's lots and lots of hours of jocktober to listen to.
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SPEAKER_01: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: And it makes me laugh, though.
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SPEAKER_02: Some of the stuff just is really good.
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SPEAKER_02: I put together a playlist.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll send you the link for the playlist.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'll put it in the locals if people are interested in listening to it.
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SPEAKER_02: But there's hours and hours and hours of Unedited jocktober.
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SPEAKER_02: No commercials, no nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: It just flows one day into the next, you know, and it's pretty funny shit.
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SPEAKER_01: It's funny that we're both into like that old radio.
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SPEAKER_01: Like my go-to right now, Ron and Fez.
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SPEAKER_01: There's a channel out there.
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SPEAKER_01: It's called, I think it's Deadhead Loop or something.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: I have it bookmarked.
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SPEAKER_01: But they have every full Ron and Fez show.
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SPEAKER_01: From the XM history of the Ron and Fez show.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So from like 2005 to 2000, I think they stopped in 15, I think.
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SPEAKER_01: But every show is there and it's sorted in order by year, like into different playlists.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's great.
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SPEAKER_01: So like right now I'm on 2006 and I just hit play and I find where
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SPEAKER_01: the little red line for the played stopped the last night.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just hit that one and go right through it.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey!
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SPEAKER_01: Hey!
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SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's so fucking fun.
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SPEAKER_01: It's dumb, but fun.
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SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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SPEAKER_02: I know.
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SPEAKER_02: It is funny,
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SPEAKER_02: but I like it when,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: Ron and Fez pop up on the O&A feed when Fez is doing something goofy,
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SPEAKER_02: you know, and they have to talk about it on O&A, you know?
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, it's just, you know, even though they were friends and...
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SPEAKER_02: Channel partners and everything,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: that didn't hold back from them goofing on, you know, Fez for being such a Fez.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he really was, but.
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SPEAKER_01: Brian in Tennessee, thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: Dead Feed Loop is the channel if people want that.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, that's back when you still could have fun.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it is fun.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's no, aside from this show, there's no fun.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, it depends on who you ask about this show.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: I saw our biggest fan.
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SPEAKER_02: You sent me the comments from our biggest fan.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Sebastian Bach.
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SPEAKER_02: He's back again.
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SPEAKER_02: What in the hell?
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SPEAKER_02: Does Sebastian not have anything better to do than to comment on bullshit stuff
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SPEAKER_02: that makes no difference one way or the other?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what he's doing.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the weirdest goddamn thing.
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SPEAKER_02: This guy,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: as far as his,
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SPEAKER_02: what do you want to call,
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SPEAKER_02: his rock stardom,
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SPEAKER_02: you'd think he was above going on YouTube and telling you,
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SPEAKER_01: you suck.
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SPEAKER_02: Against us two knuckleheads, we don't give a goddamn.
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SPEAKER_02: But it's just funny.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just like, oh, well, Sebastian Bach said we suck, so I guess we do.
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SPEAKER_02: We're garbage.
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SPEAKER_01: So we must suck.
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SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, here's his comment from earlier today.
10:29
SPEAKER_01: Fuck you both and fuck your stupid AI.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: I have never heard Skid Row with any of their nine replacement singers,
10:39
SPEAKER_01: like most of planet Earth.
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SPEAKER_01: You can call me a liar from your mom's basement all you want.
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SPEAKER_01: Bet you won't call me a liar to my face.
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SPEAKER_01: Your channel is complete garbage.
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SPEAKER_01: Is it?
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SPEAKER_01: Is it?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it is.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, if we were Sebastian Bach ass kisser, would our channel then not be garbage?
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SPEAKER_02: No, it would be wonderful.
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SPEAKER_01: It would be the best channel ever.
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SPEAKER_02: And would we still be in our mom's basement at that point?
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SPEAKER_01: No, we'd be in mansions.
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SPEAKER_02: So it just depends on the perspective,
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SPEAKER_02: whether you're in your mom's basement and your channel is garbage.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, here's my response.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is why I was talking to Stevie a little bit,
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SPEAKER_01: to make sure it was okay that I used his
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't you have some of Rachel's songs to be singing tonight instead of worrying
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SPEAKER_01: about what two knuckleheads in their mom's basement have to say?
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SPEAKER_01: Or maybe I'll send Stevie Rochelle to speak for me and you can back down to him a second time.
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SPEAKER_01: Rochelle and Rachel and us now live in your head.
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SPEAKER_01: Block our channel, Sebastian.
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SPEAKER_01: I swear you won't be bothered by us anymore.
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Stupid bitch.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, man.
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SPEAKER_02: What does Rock and Randy have to say about all this?
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SPEAKER_01: Dude, you guys really should calm down on Sebastian.
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SPEAKER_01: He's really a great guy, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when he took your pass away and sent you packing.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the best mother trucker I know, man.
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SPEAKER_02: So funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Is Randy aware of that?
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SPEAKER_01: No, this literally just happened probably an hour before the show.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, to share that with Randy.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I will.
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SPEAKER_02: Get his honest take about it.
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SPEAKER_02: Tell me what you think about this, Randy.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll send it over to him and ask him tomorrow.
12:37
SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
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SPEAKER_02: So funny.
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SPEAKER_03: Look at these comment sets on this laptop.
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SPEAKER_03: They are saying I'm totally crazy.
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SPEAKER_03: Unhinged?
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SPEAKER_03: I'll show you unhinged.
12:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm just getting started.
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SPEAKER_03: You can't stop rock and roll.
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SPEAKER_03: You can't stop me.
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SPEAKER_02: So, but anyway, we are back.
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SPEAKER_02: It's mid-October, mid-J-October.
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SPEAKER_02: And, yeah, the weather's changing and it's cold and it's, you know, just time to...
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SPEAKER_02: Time to start packing it in.
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SPEAKER_02: Get the last couple of nice days in before it's time to shiver in the snow.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Get those movies on your watch list to get you through to March.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no kidding.
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SPEAKER_02: No kidding.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm going to head out to Arizona in November for a week.
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SPEAKER_02: That's nice.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm actually taking a week vacation.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you believe that?
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SPEAKER_02: That's nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Look at you.
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SPEAKER_02: How often does that happen?
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SPEAKER_02: Not very.
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SPEAKER_02: Next to never.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I'm going to go out to Arizona and hike around a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: That'll be fun.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I'm going to end up in Las Vegas with Dokken,
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SPEAKER_02: and then I'll jet on home and wing on home to play with the stones.
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SPEAKER_02: There you go.
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SPEAKER_02: Look at you.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's the perfect time to go, being it's starting to get cold and miserable in the east.
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SPEAKER_02: So it'll be nice to be out in some warm weather for a couple of days anyway.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that'll be fun.
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SPEAKER_02: So you'll have to find something to do in my absence on that one weekend.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I have two things to do.
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SPEAKER_01: I have to decide which I'm going to do.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, look at you.
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SPEAKER_01: I have the choice of, and this is going to be my choice.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't start answering because I already know your choice chat room.
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SPEAKER_01: It's probably not going to be what you want,
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SPEAKER_01: but my choices are, I could do an off show with Matt who already agreed to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: Or as I found out last night,
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SPEAKER_01: I can just go and party for the whole weekend with John and Stephanie down
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SPEAKER_01: at their place.
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SPEAKER_01: And do a best of show.
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SPEAKER_01: And do a best of show, which is very much what I'm leaning toward right at this moment.
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SPEAKER_01: You're thinking party.
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SPEAKER_02: You're thinking soiree.
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SPEAKER_01: I really am.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm really thinking about just going down there and drinking 4,000 drinks
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SPEAKER_01: and just partying my face off.
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SPEAKER_02: And stay the night, I hope.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the whole point.
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SPEAKER_01: They live so far from me.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like even last night.
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SPEAKER_01: And last night wasn't too far.
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SPEAKER_01: I was out in Akron.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, what is that, 25 miles, 30-minute drive.
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SPEAKER_01: It was 35 minutes to get home.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And even with that, you know, John's like, you want a shot?
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, nope, nope.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: It's the new Chris.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, I'm driving home.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I got to drive up through Cuyahoga Falls.
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SPEAKER_02: Are you shitting me?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And I got to drive right past the police station at Twinsburg.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean, those, those cops along Route 8 have nothing better to do at that time of the night.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, you got to watch yourself.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: And it was equally, it was raining and shit last night too.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: So it's like they have all the reason in the world to say you're swerving
15:53
SPEAKER_01: and you can't argue it.
15:55
SPEAKER_01: Right.
15:55
SPEAKER_01: Because it's fucking raining.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: You don't even know.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: So last night I was not drinking a bunch, but both Johns definitely like, you got to come by.
16:04
SPEAKER_01: I still haven't been to their fucking house.
16:05
SPEAKER_01: They've lived there three years.
16:07
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: I just never go.
16:09
SPEAKER_01: And it's always the same reason.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean, for the last few years,
16:12
SPEAKER_01: it's been because I've been busy or just canceled as I always do.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: But now I'm just like, you know what?
16:19
SPEAKER_01: I think I'd rather do that.
16:20
SPEAKER_01: I think I would very much like to just go hang for a night, play Xbox and drink my face off.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Sounds good to me.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, you've got three or four weeks to decide for sure what you're going to do.
16:33
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: Those circumstances may change, and you may change your mind for some reason.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, shit, for all I know, I might be having surgery that week on my fucking ear, so.
16:43
SPEAKER_02: That's true, too.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: You know,
16:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't even,
16:46
SPEAKER_01: it's hard to make this plan with this stupid ear surgery hanging over me.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: It really sucks, because I'm supposed to go to Michigan on Friday, this Friday, coming.
16:55
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: But if they want to do the surgery, they're going to call me Monday and tell me when.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: If it's during the week this week, then it's during the week this week.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: That cancels Michigan.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: But we'll see.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, look at you sticking to
17:12
SPEAKER_02: your obligations.
17:14
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I'm sticking to that.
17:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm being busy.
17:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, I was out last night.
17:19
SPEAKER_01: I was out the night before.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: And where were you last night?
17:23
SPEAKER_01: Landau.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: And where was that?
17:25
SPEAKER_01: Akron, at the new Killbox Club, formerly the Empire Concert Club.
17:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: The Killbox?
17:33
SPEAKER_01: The Killbox.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: The Killbox.
17:35
SPEAKER_01: That's the name of the place, the Killbox Comedy Club.
17:38
SPEAKER_01: And where is that exactly?
17:39
SPEAKER_01: It's the old Empire on Talmadge, on Talmadge Avenue in Akron.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm trying to think where that is.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: You know where all the strip clubs are?
17:51
SPEAKER_01: Like that row of strip clubs?
17:54
SPEAKER_01: That's where it is.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: Is it up near Talmadge Circle?
17:57
SPEAKER_01: No.
17:58
SPEAKER_01: No, no.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: Is it the other direction?
17:59
SPEAKER_01: It's going past Talmadge Circle.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, past that, going east?
18:04
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: I got you.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: I got you.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: All right.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: So there's a club out there called the Empire Club?
18:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, it used to be.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: I saw bands there.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: I saw like Enough's Enough there, and I saw a few bands there.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, they just opened it.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: Boy, it was obvious that they just opened.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: So what is their main source of entertainment there?
18:33
SPEAKER_02: Comedy.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: It's just comedy?
18:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not positive.
18:37
SPEAKER_01: I didn't talk to the owner.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: I talked to the wait staff.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: And the girl that was our waiter was also our waiter at the funny stop.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so this is the new Funny Stop?
18:48
SPEAKER_01: Basically.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: I think it's some of the people that were at Funny Stop opened the kill box.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: But it's brand, brand new, and boy, it was very obvious no one knew it was there.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, you had me fooled.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: I would have never knew that either.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, was it not much of a crowd?
19:11
SPEAKER_01: There was not much of a crowd.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: How many people were there aside from you?
19:15
SPEAKER_01: Shit.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: Maybe 20.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: 20 people.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: So did Dave do just one set?
19:22
SPEAKER_02: He did two.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: Two?
19:24
SPEAKER_01: And we stayed.
19:25
SPEAKER_01: We were at the early show.
19:27
SPEAKER_01: And we stayed right up until they basically told Dave he had to leave the room
19:33
SPEAKER_01: because they were going to start letting people in.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: And when they started letting people in, there was two.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: And it was like 20 minutes before the set was supposed to start.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I don't know.
19:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it did after.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, it ain't his.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've seen Dave 15 times at this point, and he sells out every room.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: So it's clearly no one knows what that building is.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, nobody knows what it is or where it is.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: They obviously didn't advertise or something to where...
20:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, it could have been better.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: That's for sure.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: I only knew because I do Dave's Web site and I saw the date I saw.
20:19
SPEAKER_01: And when I when I messaged Dave, my first question was, where is this place?
20:23
SPEAKER_01: Because I didn't know either.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: I had no idea.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: But it's brand, brand new.
20:28
SPEAKER_01: The funny thing is I'm going there again next Saturday before the show to see Florentine.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: All right.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: Florentine's,
20:36
SPEAKER_01: so that's why I think, too,
20:37
SPEAKER_01: it's probably the guy that used to be involved with the Funny Stop
20:40
SPEAKER_01: because these guys are all coming out.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: And Florentine even hit me up and said that he was going to be there.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: You know, he's kind of doing the guy a favor to kind of help raise the profile of the club.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: But, yeah, he's going to be there.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: He's doing a 6 o'clock show on Saturday.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to go down there.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: It's almost like a matinee show.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it really is.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: But yeah,
21:07
SPEAKER_01: because I was texting with him today and he was like,
21:11
SPEAKER_01: because we were,
21:13
SPEAKER_01: myself and Seth,
21:14
SPEAKER_01: we're going to go on Thursday to go see him at the Winchester in,
21:19
SPEAKER_01: what is that, Lakewood?
21:21
SPEAKER_01: We were going to go to that and he hits me up today and he says,
21:24
SPEAKER_01: hey, you know, I'm going to be at this place instead.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: Would it be better to come down there?
21:31
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm trying to help this guy get the club moving.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, yeah, that's fine.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, and so I asked him, I said, well, what time's the show?
21:38
SPEAKER_01: Because I got to CMS.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: He's like, oh, no, six o'clock show.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: And I'll be done by like 730, quarter to eight.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: I was like, OK, that works.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to go down there, catch some comedy before the CMS.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: So is he doing this show instead of the Winchester?
21:55
SPEAKER_01: No, he's still doing the Winchester, too.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: OK. All right.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Well,
22:00
SPEAKER_02: I hope this new club owner has deep pockets because we've seen these kind of things
22:06
SPEAKER_02: where,
22:07
SPEAKER_02: you know,
22:08
SPEAKER_02: somebody jumps into this whole entertainment thing and they end up going broke.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I hope so.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: You know,
22:15
SPEAKER_02: they just,
22:16
SPEAKER_02: you know,
22:16
SPEAKER_02: aren't getting the receipts at the door,
22:19
SPEAKER_02: you know,
22:20
SPEAKER_02: and can't afford to,
22:21
SPEAKER_02: you know, pay staff and keep the building open and hire talent and,
22:26
SPEAKER_02: It's a lot of money to be a
22:29
SPEAKER_01: promoter.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: I reached out to Dave,
22:32
SPEAKER_01: and I don't want to get into a whole business thing about it,
22:34
SPEAKER_01: but I offered to work with them because he knows the owner.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: I was like, hey,
22:42
SPEAKER_01: if they need some help with social media and their website and blah,
22:47
SPEAKER_01: blah, blah, I'm more than happy to do it at a very friendly rate to help because...
22:55
SPEAKER_01: And this is completely selfish,
22:57
SPEAKER_01: has nothing to do with money or trying to make a,
22:59
SPEAKER_01: you know, make a sale or any of that shit.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: I just want there to be a club that I could see my buddies in comedy play at in Akron.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
23:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll tell you why more than why not.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: I hate going to hilarities.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I understand that.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you and I went there and saw Chris Porter.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, it's a fine room, but I don't like risking my life to get to it.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: Plus, there's nowhere to park.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: There's nowhere to park.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: You know,
23:26
SPEAKER_01: you got to park either on 4th Street,
23:31
SPEAKER_01: which not that that's a far walker,
23:33
SPEAKER_01: and it's not that far to walk,
23:34
SPEAKER_01: but it's still, like last night was an Indians playoff game.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: If Dave would have been at Hilarities, I would not have gone.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because there's nowhere
23:44
SPEAKER_01: to park.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: There's nowhere to park,
23:45
SPEAKER_01: and the places that you would park would be like $100 to park,
23:49
SPEAKER_01: and I'm not going to do that.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: I remember going to the CSU Convocation Center when the Indians were in the playoff.
23:57
SPEAKER_02: And even around the Convocation Center, you couldn't find anywhere to park.
24:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you end up parking down by the fucking Agora and walking 50 blocks.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's,
24:09
SPEAKER_01: you know,
24:11
SPEAKER_01: whether I end up helping out or not is really irrelevant,
24:15
SPEAKER_01: but I'm happy to if that's what they want.
24:17
SPEAKER_01: Right.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: And I just for straight up selfish reasons would love
24:23
SPEAKER_01: to help them get their foot off the ground.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: But it's hard, man.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: It's hard to establish a new room for anything.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: Right.
24:30
SPEAKER_02: And especially, I mean, that's not exactly like in the middle of traffic.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
24:35
SPEAKER_02: That's like out in the middle of, you know, on the outskirts of town.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's really, when you're driving up to it, I mean, it's a busy road there.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Talmadge is a fairly busy street,
24:47
SPEAKER_01: but it's kind of like driving through an industrial park.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: There's some businesses and there's a bunch of strip clubs and a few bars and that place.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: It's not even fast food over there.
25:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: But it was fun.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: It was fun to see Dave.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: He was...
25:09
SPEAKER_01: He was in a weird mood.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, he barely did any of his comedy.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: He was doing like a Jay Oakerson type of a deal last night.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he was doing some crowd work.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: He was doing crowd work, yeah.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: Probably, I think he did an hour or 45 minutes to an hour, and it was all crowd work.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: It really was, you know, just, oh, where are you from?
25:32
SPEAKER_01: How long have you known this guy?
25:34
SPEAKER_01: You know, and he's fucking funny when he breaks out there.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: He narrowed in on this one guy that had a ponytail.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: God damn it, I was glad I was sitting more in the middle of the room.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: He narrowed in on this guy.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: I must have told fucking 50 Steven Seagal jokes at this guy's expense.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: It was fucking hilarious.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: Well, I know he goofed on me a little bit when I went to see him.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: He said, I'm glad to see Vince Neil was able to make it.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he was in good spirits.
26:05
SPEAKER_01: He was really, it was fun.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: I will say, you know, you were talking about how much it costs.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know what the tickets were for this, but so John comes in.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: John and Stephanie come in.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: I got there maybe 10 minutes before they did.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they had a bit
26:22
SPEAKER_01: of a ride to get there.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, because they're in Wadsville or Strongsville or somewhere.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: It's Wadsworth, isn't it?
26:29
SPEAKER_01: Wadsworth, Strongsville, somewhere.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: Somewhere way to fuck out there.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: And they come in and I was just sipping on a beer, you know, just kind of hanging out.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: And John's like, all right, we're going to get a bucket of beer.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, cool.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: So he orders a bucket of beer, has five beers in it.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: So he orders a bucket of beer.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: They basically drank that.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: I drank like one off of that.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: And then he orders another bucket of beer.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: And they drove home?
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Holy shit.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure Stephanie was driving home because she only had like two or three.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: I only had two total.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: The one that I had when I got in the room and one out of the two buckets of beer.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: And John also had two shots of whatever, of whiskey or something.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: So he had two shots of whiskey and 11 beers at the table.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, boy.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: What do you think that bar tab was?
27:31
SPEAKER_01: Now, before you answer...
27:34
SPEAKER_01: The beers came in a special price if you bought a bucket.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm going to guess that, you know, a special bucket of five beers.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to say $12.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: Wow, you would be way low.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: Really?
27:54
SPEAKER_02: $20?
27:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, $20.
27:55
SPEAKER_02: $20.
27:55
SPEAKER_02: $20.
27:55
SPEAKER_02: Plus my beer, which...
28:04
SPEAKER_02: That isn't much of a break
28:05
SPEAKER_01: on the price.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: What is that, four bucks a beer?
28:07
SPEAKER_01: Four bucks a beer.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: All right.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't like we were drinking anything high end.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: It was, what did he get?
28:16
SPEAKER_01: Not Miller Lights, but something equivalent to that.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: And I drank one Corona, which was six and a quarter.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: And his two shots,
28:28
SPEAKER_01: the total bill, because he grabbed mine and just paid it because I got the tickets.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: And then I saw them because they brought over the little thing-ma-jig to
28:37
SPEAKER_01: the square thing or whatever.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: $94.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: For drinks.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: For drinks.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: For drinks.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: Really, for two.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I had two beers.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: True.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: True.
28:53
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, if you broke it up for three of you.
28:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: 30 bucks, 30 bucks a piece or whatever.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: I guess that isn't, I guess that isn't terrible.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: It's not terrible, but it was just like, damn.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: When she brought it over, I mean,
29:09
SPEAKER_01: we've been going to these comedy shows with Landau and Florentine and Jameson
29:14
SPEAKER_01: and whoever,
29:16
SPEAKER_01: every time they come through and we,
29:18
SPEAKER_01: we always got like the pitchers of beer and stuff.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: We get a pitcher of beer and a big old thing of nachos and it was like, I don't know, 30 bucks.
29:28
SPEAKER_01: You know, and this was 95.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: I was like, whoa, I'm glad I came up with the tickets.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and those beers cost the club, what, 50 cents?
29:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I guess when you've got 20 people walking in the door, you need that upsell.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: Got to have the bar covered the rest of the expenses.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: So what does a Landau ticket go for to go to the show?
29:52
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: I really don't know.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: Didn't look, didn't need to.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: Dave literally asked me, he's like, how many do you need?
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's kind enough to do that,
30:03
SPEAKER_02: but I thought since you run his website,
30:04
SPEAKER_02: maybe he puts cost on the website or something.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he does.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: I think he just links out to where people can buy them,
30:10
SPEAKER_01: so you'd have to kind of go through the path in order to figure out what they cost.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: But I really don't know.
30:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm not dodging it because it's overly expensive or too cheap or anything.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: I just don't know.
30:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm imagining $25, $30.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: All right.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, fair enough.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: He's on national TV.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: Right.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: You'd think he'd be there.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: Well, if and when he comes back into this area, I would definitely go again.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: But this doesn't seem to be his area of...
30:40
SPEAKER_01: No, he doesn't come there a lot.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: That's weird.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's only been here once as far as I know.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is weird that he hasn't come there.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: And I went, obviously.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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31:21
SPEAKER_01: I've never really gotten too much in.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if there's not a good room there.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: I just think that conservative comedians don't do well in a very,
31:32
SPEAKER_02: very liberal haven like Chicago.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because Florentine doesn't come there often either, does he?
31:38
SPEAKER_02: Nope, nope.
31:40
SPEAKER_02: And I don't think Ben Bankus comes here either.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: No, he might get shot in Chicago.
31:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, and I was surprised that Jay Oakerson came here.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
31:50
SPEAKER_02: I went to see him back in the winter,
31:54
SPEAKER_02: back in January,
31:55
SPEAKER_02: you know,
31:56
SPEAKER_02: but since then,
31:58
SPEAKER_02: you know,
31:58
SPEAKER_02: so we don't really get any really good comedians come through here,
32:02
SPEAKER_02: you know, in the area as far as I know.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: I like going to comedy shows, but unfortunately there aren't too many to go to.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
32:14
SPEAKER_02: Not around here anyway.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: No.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look how often Landau comes through the Cleveland area.
32:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: I see him twice a year every year.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: It's more of a blue collar, you know, kind of conservative area, but boy, not around here.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: No, it's really, he comes here twice a year.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: Once to Cleveland, once to Akron.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: Pretty much every year.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: And I go every time.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: And I guess I do sort of know how you feel about this.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: But there is somewhat of an obligation once you become an actual friend, isn't there?
32:50
SPEAKER_01: Like you feel like you got to go.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: You got to support your friend.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like you almost have to clear your calendar to go.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know,
33:02
SPEAKER_02: say that that was the same thing,
33:04
SPEAKER_02: you know, a couple of weeks ago, Eric Ferentinos hit me up with a text.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: I guess I'll be seeing you in a couple of months.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: Right.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: You know,
33:12
SPEAKER_02: so it's,
33:13
SPEAKER_02: you know,
33:13
SPEAKER_02: and not that I wouldn't go,
33:16
SPEAKER_02: but it's just an expectation that you're just going to be there.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: And that's okay.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: I guess that's a.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I like that.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: I like that type of camaraderie and friendship that people just expect,
33:28
SPEAKER_02: hey, I'm going to see my friend.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm coming to your area.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: I'll see you when I get there.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: But, yeah, it is definitely much more of an obligation.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: Like,
33:39
SPEAKER_01: it's weird because there are certain times with certain bands that I wish I wasn't
33:43
SPEAKER_01: as friendly with because it's like,
33:45
SPEAKER_01: I really don't want to come out on a fucking Monday night to,
33:48
SPEAKER_01: you know, to see your band.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: But, you know, it's like, well, I'm friends, so we got to do it.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get you.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Part of the game.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: I think,
34:01
SPEAKER_02: speaking of comedians,
34:02
SPEAKER_02: and I forgot to check,
34:04
SPEAKER_02: somebody told me that Joe DeRosa was coming to the little theater not far from me,
34:10
SPEAKER_02: the art theater.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah?
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know if he came already or if he's coming.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: I forgot to take a look at the calendar.
34:17
SPEAKER_02: Joe DeRosa.
34:20
SPEAKER_02: Hobart, Indiana.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: Hobart, Indiana.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: Friday, October 9th.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: You missed him.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: I missed him.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: You missed him.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: I was out at Wasp anyway.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: It's funny, you call it out at Wasp.
34:41
SPEAKER_01: I definitely am calling it out at KK's Priest.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Definitely enjoyed KK's Priest a million times more than Wasp.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, I enjoyed both, but I was blown away by KK's Priest.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I liked Wasp.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: I loved Priest.
34:59
SPEAKER_01: That was, wow.
35:01
SPEAKER_02: Look at you calling them priest.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: They are priest.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: They're priest to me now.
35:07
SPEAKER_02: What did I tell you?
35:09
SPEAKER_02: You asked me last week, would I go see priest or would I go see KK's priest?
35:13
SPEAKER_02: And I said, KK's priest.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I never in a million years thought I would feel this because,
35:21
SPEAKER_01: and I've said this a zillion times,
35:25
SPEAKER_01: Once you get past Metallica and Pantera,
35:27
SPEAKER_01: in my top five,
35:28
SPEAKER_01: number three,
35:29
SPEAKER_01: like Pantera and Metallica kind of flip places from time to time,
35:33
SPEAKER_01: depending on what I'm into.
35:35
SPEAKER_01: Number three never changes.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: It's always Judas Priest.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: Always has been, always will be.
35:41
SPEAKER_01: I love Priest.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: Seeing that show two nights ago, holy smokes.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Boy, do they kick ass.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
35:52
SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to,
35:54
SPEAKER_01: We could talk about KK and we could talk about Ripper and,
35:57
SPEAKER_01: you know, that's what everybody talks about.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: The star of that show is AJ Mills, the other guitar player.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: He is a monster player, man.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: He is.
36:11
SPEAKER_02: I zoomed in on him on a couple of those videos that I sent you and
36:16
SPEAKER_02: which you posted up on the locals.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: He is amazing.
36:22
SPEAKER_01: And I mean...
36:25
SPEAKER_01: There's very little difference between what you expect from Judas Priest
36:31
SPEAKER_01: and what you're getting from KK's Priest.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: Especially in the guitars, very little difference.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: Holy smokes, it was a great show.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, I loved it.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: So good.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: Did you see anybody at the show that you know?
36:50
SPEAKER_01: I did not.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: You didn't run into anybody, huh?
36:55
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: I got in there.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: I kind of did the Eric Ferentino's thing where I had the hood up, and I went upstairs.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: I got a seat upstairs, and
37:09
SPEAKER_01: I just kind of sat by myself.
37:11
SPEAKER_01: I didn't go with anybody.
37:13
SPEAKER_01: I just went.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: Truth be told, I just didn't want to be bothered.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to have 15 conversations of, Hey, man, the show's great.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean,
37:24
SPEAKER_01: if somebody would have said something to me,
37:26
SPEAKER_01: of course, I'd have taken a picture and had the conversation.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: But I just wanted to go and just enjoy a show.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: I really just wanted to kind of have a few hours.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: And I went,
37:41
SPEAKER_01: and like I said,
37:42
SPEAKER_01: I had the hood up and everything,
37:43
SPEAKER_01: and I just went straight in,
37:45
SPEAKER_01: and nobody cornered the fat guy with the hood in on and said, aren't you?
37:49
SPEAKER_01: I didn't get any of that, so...
37:51
SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't run into anybody, but man, what a show.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: I would love to see.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: I will go see that again.
38:00
SPEAKER_01: Whenever it comes back, I'm going.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: How about the newly slimmed down Blackie Lawless?
38:05
SPEAKER_01: He slimmed down?
38:06
SPEAKER_01: Ripper slimmed down?
38:08
SPEAKER_01: These guys are...
38:10
SPEAKER_01: There's a health thing going on on this tour, apparently.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know what?
38:14
SPEAKER_02: Getting back to our controversial discussion about the new...
38:20
SPEAKER_02: Quiet Riot singer.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: Look at these old guys all slimmed down and looking like rock stars.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Blackie lost a good amount of weight, too.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: He did.
38:30
SPEAKER_02: He probably lost 40, 50 pounds.
38:32
SPEAKER_02: Easily.
38:33
SPEAKER_02: He looks like old school Blackie.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: He does.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: And of course, as you said, Tim Owens looks like a gym rat, as you put it.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well,
38:44
SPEAKER_01: I see him on Facebook pretty much every day from his gym or whatever gym he's at,
38:49
SPEAKER_01: you know, in whatever city, like the hotel gym or something.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: The workout room.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is really just somewhere along the way.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: He decided he wasn't happy and just started banging the weights and Holy shit.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: What do you think he weighs now?
39:04
SPEAKER_01: 170 pounds, maybe?
39:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, about.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's tall.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's tall.
39:09
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, he's probably about 170.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he lost a ton of weight.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: And the weird thing, the bald thing works for him.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, it really does.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: He kind of looks, he looks like Ralph Sheeper's up there, to be honest.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: He does a little bit, doesn't he?
39:24
SPEAKER_01: He does.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: You know, because now he's all ripped and stuff, too.
39:26
SPEAKER_01: So he looks kind of like Ralph Sheeper.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: He's the ripper.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: He really is the ripper.
39:31
SPEAKER_01: He's the Ripper.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: God damn, does he sound, he sounds better, which I didn't think that was even a possibility.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: He sounds better now than I think he ever has.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he held those notes and the high notes and he was just like, holy shit.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, really,
39:50
SPEAKER_01: on some of them songs, Victims of Changes and stuff like that, it was like, whoa.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: And not for nothing,
39:57
SPEAKER_01: this is a dumb thing that I noticed and I'm sure people notice it,
40:01
SPEAKER_01: but don't look at it as a feature.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: I really, really like it.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: It's the first time I've seen this.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: They seem to have, I don't know, an extended vocalist platform on the stage.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: It's not just a step up like the guitar players have to raise themselves up.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: It's like...
40:23
SPEAKER_01: Ripper can walk around a little bit on that thing.
40:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's the bass for Blackie's Elvis.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, is that why that's there?
40:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that makes sense.
40:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the bass.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: Bands should do that on every tour.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: Because Ripper was kind of lifted above a little bit,
40:44
SPEAKER_01: and it added something to the presentation.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: It added an oomph or a fire or something to it that he was...
40:53
SPEAKER_01: Like KK was on one side and AJ Mills was on the other and they were,
40:57
SPEAKER_01: you know, a foot shorter than Ripper or whatever.
41:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: But they're rocking while he's up just bringing it.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: And I loved that.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: And I know that's such a minor little thing,
41:10
SPEAKER_01: but it, you know, in a smaller room like that, it made it cool.
41:15
SPEAKER_01: It was very cool.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: I enjoyed it.
41:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: I really don't have anything bad to say about either band,
41:20
SPEAKER_01: really, just I don't agree with you from last week that Blackie's not lip syncing.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: There was some moments last night that I was like.
41:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm not saying, oh, the show that I saw.
41:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: But that doesn't mean if he's not up to snuff for one show or another,
41:34
SPEAKER_02: he doesn't feel it out, you know?
41:38
SPEAKER_02: But I zoomed in on him as often as I could, and I did not detect backing tracks.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, there were some times that I just was like,
41:52
SPEAKER_01: Wow, he's leaning back and they're still full vocal.
41:57
SPEAKER_01: But again, as I've said a bunch of times, I don't really care about tracks.
42:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm fine with it as long as I got a good show.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: I got a great show.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: I had a great time watching that show.
42:10
SPEAKER_01: Whether it was real, whether it was Memorex, I don't care.
42:14
SPEAKER_01: It was a great show and it was fantastic.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: Got to thank, even though this is so bad, I'll tell this story now.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: Got to thank Matt from Cincinnati, even though I did not use his ticket.
42:29
SPEAKER_01: So me being the knuckleheaded fucking moron that I am,
42:34
SPEAKER_01: I waited until, oh,
42:37
SPEAKER_01: about two o'clock in the afternoon to transfer the ticket over to the Access app
42:44
SPEAKER_01: to do it.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: And it wouldn't let me do it.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: Because I wasn't doing it from the email it was sent to, which was the CMS request email.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: And of course I didn't have the password to the CMS thing.
43:01
SPEAKER_01: And I didn't want to call you at work.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:04
SPEAKER_01: Because in order to do it,
43:06
SPEAKER_01: I knew if I tried to sign in,
43:09
SPEAKER_01: it was going to do that thing where it pops up and tell me the number on the screen.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I just didn't want to do that to you at your job.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, A,
43:18
SPEAKER_01: I didn't know if you could even have taken the time to do it, but B,
43:21
SPEAKER_01: even if you could, that's such a lame look for you for, okay, yeah, the code is 73.
43:29
SPEAKER_01: You know, I just didn't want to do that.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: So I didn't use the ticket.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: I made a phone call to a friend that hooked me up.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: All right.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: And I just went to the show and had a great time.
43:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, you went to the show by proxy.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: I did.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: I went 100% because Matt in Cincinnati offered me the ticket.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: I just didn't end up using the ticket.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: Right, just because you couldn't get access to it.
43:54
SPEAKER_01: Yes, correct.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: But thank you anyway, Matt.
43:58
SPEAKER_01: I do appreciate it, and I had a great time.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of people who are giving tickets away, I got a text from CMS fan Corey.
44:08
SPEAKER_02: He lives down in Arkansas, and I often see him.
44:12
SPEAKER_02: Often see him at a lot of shows and things.
44:14
SPEAKER_02: He, he travels a lot.
44:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
44:17
SPEAKER_02: This guy, he and his, he and his family, he and his son, he, he, his son is named Dawkin.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:25
SPEAKER_02: So they travel a lot and they were going to make the drive up from Arkansas to,
44:31
SPEAKER_02: uh, to go to the Wasp show on Sunday.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: And, uh,
44:36
SPEAKER_02: so he hits me up Sunday afternoon and he says, Hey, Neely,
44:40
SPEAKER_02: he says, uh, Me and Dokken were going to make the drive up to see the Wash Show.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: I got third row tickets at the Arcata tonight.
44:49
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: And we just don't feel like making the drive.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: Do you want the tickets?
44:53
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
44:54
SPEAKER_02: So I was just like, well, I just saw them on Friday.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: And Arcata on a Sunday night is a bit of a stretch.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: It's like 100 miles away.
45:05
SPEAKER_01: Right.
45:05
SPEAKER_01: And you got to turn around and be at work at eight or whatever.
45:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
45:08
SPEAKER_02: So I said, well, I'll get a hold of Scarfoot because he lives in St. Charles.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: And I text Scarfoot and I said, hey, our friend Corey has third row tickets for Wasp.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: You want to go?
45:23
SPEAKER_02: And he was just like, fuck yeah.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: So his tickets didn't go to waste.
45:28
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
45:29
SPEAKER_02: Good.
45:29
SPEAKER_02: So Scarfoot was able to go.
45:32
SPEAKER_02: To the Wash Show Sunday night at the Arcata.
45:35
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: Look at our little CMS family, all acting family-like.
45:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, taking care of each other.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: I like it.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: So thank you, Corey, and I'm glad Scarfoot had a good time.
45:48
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: Everybody should
45:51
SPEAKER_01: see this tour.
45:52
SPEAKER_01: It's really good.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: It's a great show.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: Really?
45:57
SPEAKER_02: And I'm looking forward to the Metal Church Armored Saints show.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that'll
46:01
SPEAKER_02: be good too.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: Looking forward to that.
46:03
SPEAKER_02: That's a good twin bill.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I'm looking forward to Ripper said it on stage at our show,
46:08
SPEAKER_01: probably on yours too,
46:09
SPEAKER_01: but said that they're recording all those shows to put out a live record.
46:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what he said.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: I like the sound of that.
46:16
SPEAKER_01: I will play the show.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: If they knew half as well as they did with the Judas Priest records,
46:20
SPEAKER_01: the Live in London and the 98,
46:23
SPEAKER_01: Whatever that was called, 98 Live or 98 Jugulator or whatever.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: Right.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: Those are two kick-ass records.
46:30
SPEAKER_01: And as good as KK's Priest was two nights ago, I'm all in for that one.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: I can't wait.
46:39
SPEAKER_01: That'll be great.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: So...
46:42
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, they've got a few dates, some dates left through the end of the year.
46:47
SPEAKER_02: So if they're coming to a town near you and you have thoughts about going, I would say go.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would agree.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: I would definitely agree.
46:59
SPEAKER_01: Great, great, great show.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: And I'm glad you went.
47:02
SPEAKER_02: I really, I was kind of keeping my fingers crossed for you.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, I hope Chris remembers to go.
47:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I went.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: Now the next thing I got to do,
47:13
SPEAKER_01: I got to go get my phone fucking fixed because I wanted to shoot video so bad
47:19
SPEAKER_01: because it was such a good show.
47:21
SPEAKER_01: I would have liked to have had, you know, more video for the show.
47:25
SPEAKER_01: But I just my phone is I've shown it before.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: I'll show it again.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you can see it or not, but the camera stuff's all cracked up.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: So I can't shoot any video or take any photos or nothing with it.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: So.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: I need to get my ass over to the Verizon store and just get a new phone.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've had this one for like four years,
47:44
SPEAKER_01: which I know in Neely terms that doesn't mean anything.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: Four years?
47:50
SPEAKER_01: You know me.
47:51
SPEAKER_01: Usually I get a new phone every year.
47:54
SPEAKER_01: And this one I've had for like four years and haven't swapped it out because it works.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm afraid of it not working if I switch.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
48:02
SPEAKER_02: I remember you switched from iPhone to Android and you thought,
48:06
SPEAKER_02: oh yeah, this is going to be the greatest thing ever.
48:08
SPEAKER_02: And then you got it and you were just like, I hate this
48:11
SPEAKER_01: fucking phone.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: I fucking hated it.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I ended up getting rid of that.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: I only kept that, I think, four months.
48:19
SPEAKER_02: And you spent like $1,200 on it or something, didn't you?
48:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, it ended up going through the cycle.
48:25
SPEAKER_01: Like all my family phones are on one plan.
48:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: So I ended up, my daughter had the oldest phone, so I sold her on, hey, do you want this one?
48:34
SPEAKER_01: It's got a neat little thing.
48:36
SPEAKER_01: It's got that, what do you call that, a stylus, so that you can use that.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: She's like, yeah, yeah, I'll take that phone.
48:42
SPEAKER_01: So I gave her that phone and upgraded to what is this phone from that one.
48:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, never look back.
48:51
SPEAKER_01: I'll never own another Android phone.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: No way.
48:55
SPEAKER_01: I might try the X phone when that comes out, though.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: That's one of the reasons I haven't gone and replaced this iPhone yet is
49:03
SPEAKER_01: because I know Elon Musk has got to be right there.
49:07
SPEAKER_01: He's not releasing all this Starlink shit and buying up frequency bands and everything.
49:15
SPEAKER_01: And he's shown it like test models online.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: So I know he's going to come out with a phone here sooner than later,
49:23
SPEAKER_01: and I don't want to be 19 months away from getting that phone.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to want that phone day one.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: Is it a good thing to get something day one?
49:34
SPEAKER_01: No, it's never a good thing to get it day one, but I want that one.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: But I want it.
49:39
SPEAKER_01: I want that one.
49:41
SPEAKER_02: You know what I never understood, and we'll wrap this up.
49:47
SPEAKER_02: Segment here.
49:48
SPEAKER_02: Years ago, when iPhone was releasing the new iPhone, people lining up to get one.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's nice.
49:58
SPEAKER_02: I never understood that.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, why don't you just wait a few days or get it next week or whatever?
50:05
SPEAKER_02: But people were lining up at like 6 o'clock in the morning to get a goddamn iPhone.
50:11
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, why do you got to get it that day?
50:14
SPEAKER_01: Dude, there is a weird thing about the Apple product, and I don't understand it either.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: I really don't understand it, but I mean, it was the same way when they released the iPad.
50:25
SPEAKER_01: It was the same way when they released the iWatch.
50:29
SPEAKER_01: They had people standing out in line to get a fucking watch.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: Did you go to Walmart and get a watch tomorrow?
50:38
SPEAKER_01: You know, as soon as it opens, you can walk out of there 10 minutes later with a watch.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: They'll do everything that an iWatch will do.
50:44
SPEAKER_01: Everything.
50:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they don't know the difference between an A16 and an A19 and power processing.
51:13
SPEAKER_02: It's the latest and the greatest.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: It's cool, man.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: Why you got to be such a dick?
51:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, why do you have to be such a dick?
51:19
SPEAKER_01: And that is the answer I get.
51:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, that girl was right at the beginning of the show.
51:23
SPEAKER_02: The CMS, they're just a bunch of dickheads.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
51:27
SPEAKER_01: It's no wonder Sebastian Bach wants to fight me.
51:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you'll never say that to my face.
51:34
SPEAKER_02: Really?
51:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah?
51:35
SPEAKER_02: What are you going to do?
51:37
SPEAKER_02: You're a threatening assault now?
51:39
SPEAKER_02: Is that what you're doing?
51:40
SPEAKER_01: What are you going to do?
51:41
SPEAKER_01: Throw a bottle at me and hit the girl behind me?
51:43
SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
51:47
SPEAKER_01: Dumbbell.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what are you going to do?
51:50
SPEAKER_02: Are you going to take a swing at me?
51:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: Do you think that skinny little fuck wants to really fight me?
51:56
SPEAKER_01: The guy that went to war?
51:57
SPEAKER_02: He's not that skinny of a little fuck.
51:59
SPEAKER_01: Well, not anymore, no, but still.
52:02
SPEAKER_01: Compared to me.
52:04
SPEAKER_01: And I guarantee you, guarantee you I've been in a bunch more fights than that fucking guy.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
52:10
SPEAKER_01: This guy's spent his last 35 years hiding behind a security guard.
52:15
SPEAKER_01: And let's face it,
52:16
SPEAKER_01: when Stevie Rochelle chested up on him,
52:17
SPEAKER_01: he fucking backed down like a bitch on that boat.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: Don't talk shit, Sebastian.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: Just unfollow the channel.
52:26
SPEAKER_01: Block it, even.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, stop getting your panties in a wad over what a couple of guys are commenting on.
52:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, who gives a shit?
52:33
SPEAKER_01: But AI sucks, you fucking assholes.
52:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so?
52:39
SPEAKER_01: I can tell you're telling us from your mom's basement, you fags.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
52:45
SPEAKER_01: You said it yourself, that God kills fags dead.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: So apparently we'll be dead soon.
52:49
SPEAKER_01: What do you think of that, Sebastian?
52:52
SPEAKER_01: Dick.
52:54
SPEAKER_02: Fuck him.
52:58
SPEAKER_02: I just find it funny that after all these years...
53:01
SPEAKER_02: People like him are still out there, you know, picking bulletin board fights.
53:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're an internationally known rock star,
53:14
SPEAKER_01: and you're going on YouTube to complain about somebody that said something
53:19
SPEAKER_01: that you don't agree with?
53:20
SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: Dummy.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: Goofy.
53:26
SPEAKER_01: He really is.
53:29
SPEAKER_02: All right.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think that'll wrap our first hour.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: All right.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: As always, I see people have already been very, very busy in the old fast pass at the locals.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
53:42
SPEAKER_02: And if you'd like to get a request in on a Saturday night,
53:45
SPEAKER_02: a song request in on a Saturday night,
53:47
SPEAKER_02: you can join us over at our locals page, classicmetalshow.locals.com and sign up.
53:53
SPEAKER_02: It's $5 a month.
53:54
SPEAKER_02: It allows you to pick a song on a Saturday.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: It allows you to get early access to the release of the segments of this show,
54:03
SPEAKER_02: early access to Chris's interviews that he does through the week,
54:07
SPEAKER_02: little special things that Chris throws out there periodically.
54:11
SPEAKER_02: So there's little perks to it.
54:13
SPEAKER_02: It's only $5 a month.
54:15
SPEAKER_02: It's a buck and a quarter a week.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: Can you afford that?
54:17
SPEAKER_02: A buck and a quarter a week?
54:20
SPEAKER_02: And it just goes toward operating costs.
54:23
SPEAKER_02: That's what it goes toward.
54:25
SPEAKER_02: So you help the show operate.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: That's what we do because there are costs that are involved with doing a show like this.
54:33
SPEAKER_02: So you look at the equipment we have and the bandwidth we have and
54:37
SPEAKER_02: the servers we have and the web space and the You know, cloud service and all that.
54:43
SPEAKER_02: That all costs money.
54:44
SPEAKER_02: What?
54:45
SPEAKER_02: We provide a service, gentlemen, and that service costs money.
54:49
SPEAKER_01: I thought it was all free.
54:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, it is free for the watcher, but,
54:53
SPEAKER_02: you know, there is a cost involved.
54:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, we could get rid of the microphones and just set up our phones and just do it.
55:01
SPEAKER_01: True.
55:02
SPEAKER_02: Or we could do blog talk radio.
55:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we could.
55:05
SPEAKER_01: We really could.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: But we want to bring you the best show we can bring you.
55:11
SPEAKER_02: So if you want to help the show and offset some of those costs, it's $5 a month.
55:18
SPEAKER_02: Classicmetalshow.locals.com and join us today, shall you?
55:21
SPEAKER_02: Yes, please.
55:22
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:24
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, we're going to get into the tunes here.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to let Chris kick it off.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: So what shall we play?
55:29
SPEAKER_01: Well, since we're doing a Dangerous Toys contest,
55:33
SPEAKER_01: why don't we do Angel and You from Dangerous Toys from Hellacious Acres?
55:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
55:38
SPEAKER_01: It's not the album we're giving away, but whatever.
55:40
SPEAKER_01: It's still a good song.
55:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
55:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, we're all about dangerous toys.
55:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love them.
55:48
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
55:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, there it is.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: Angel and You.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
55:55
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: I got her all pulled up there.
55:58
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, yeah.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: So if you want to join us.
56:02
SPEAKER_02: Come over to the locals page and help out the show and blah, blah, blah.
56:06
SPEAKER_02: So you get the picture.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: So can you afford us five bucks a month?
56:11
SPEAKER_02: I would hope so.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: Come on, guys.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: Help out a little bit.
56:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
56:16
SPEAKER_02: All right.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, here it is.
56:18
SPEAKER_02: It's Dangerous Toys with Angel and you exclusively here.
56:22
SPEAKER_02: On your classic metal show.
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56:36
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57:38
SPEAKER_02: It's Loverboy right here on your Classic Metal Show.
57:43
SPEAKER_02: From the Canadians to the north of us here.
57:46
SPEAKER_02: That is the Hot Girls in Love.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: That one going out by request to Ben Benjamin.
57:52
SPEAKER_02: And we heard some people forward.
57:55
SPEAKER_02: What were you going to say, Chris?
57:56
SPEAKER_02: I heard a breath like you were going to say something.
58:00
SPEAKER_02: Why?
58:00
SPEAKER_02: Something negative.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: All I was going to say is why?
58:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
58:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: He pays us $5 a month, so I guess he gets to hear a song.
58:10
SPEAKER_01: What, was Notorious busy?
58:13
SPEAKER_01: Couldn't find that one?
58:16
SPEAKER_01: Or This Could Be the Knights or one of those songs?
58:18
SPEAKER_01: Jeez, man.
58:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: Lita Ford in there with Playing With Fire for The Electric Fence.
58:25
SPEAKER_02: Hurricane with Reign of Love for the new joiner, Chris Hansen.
58:32
SPEAKER_02: Okay, there we go.
58:34
SPEAKER_02: Chris Hansen checking in with us.
58:36
SPEAKER_02: I'd like you to take a seat over here and listen to this song.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: Tesla in there with Coming At You Live for my nephew James, L.A.
58:45
SPEAKER_02: Guns with Nothing Better To Do for Pat Stanton.
58:49
SPEAKER_02: And kicking off that block, we heard Dangerous Toys with Angel and You for our own Chris Akin.
58:55
SPEAKER_01: There we go.
58:56
SPEAKER_01: Good set.
58:56
SPEAKER_01: Did you pay your $5 a month?
58:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, pay your $5, get your song.
59:02
SPEAKER_01: Simple as that.
59:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking to you.
59:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, me?
59:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:05
SPEAKER_02: Did you pay your $5 a month?
59:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
59:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't pay for anything.
59:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm a cheap buck.
59:13
SPEAKER_01: Believe me,
59:13
SPEAKER_01: if I wasn't on this show,
59:14
SPEAKER_01: I'd be watching it with fucking 14 commercials on Rumble or whatever.
59:20
SPEAKER_01: I'd be the guy that we bitch about.
59:23
SPEAKER_01: I'd be the guy going, it's good enough on YouTube.
59:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't care about all the edits and everything.
59:27
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
59:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, as long as it's free.
59:30
SPEAKER_01: It's free.
59:31
SPEAKER_01: I want it.
59:32
SPEAKER_01: It's free.
59:32
SPEAKER_01: It's right.
59:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, speaking of YouTube real quick.
59:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
59:39
SPEAKER_02: There's a YouTuber that I check his stream out once in a while.
59:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a religious watcher of him, but I've seen him for years.
59:47
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
59:47
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
59:49
SPEAKER_02: He came from Germany.
59:52
SPEAKER_02: He's a German-born guy, but he moved to Venice, California.
59:57
SPEAKER_02: So he established his YouTube channel seven years ago called The German in Venice.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: So he does these travel things.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_02: He's got like 4,000 videos out there.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of it at the beginning had to do with Southern California
1:00:19
SPEAKER_02: because he first moved there.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_02: So he would just go out to various places around Southern California and do
1:00:28
SPEAKER_02: a video blog and talk about it.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, cause it was all new to him.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_02: He was discovering Southern California and America as a German for the first time.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_02: And in fact, uh, I,
1:00:41
SPEAKER_02: I know I had brought this up earlier this year,
1:00:44
SPEAKER_02: probably one of the earliest YouTubers that was out there who did travel blogs.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_02: His name was Adam the Woo.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: I remember that.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_02: And, and he, uh, they, he passed away.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_02: And this, uh, German and Venice guy is the one who found him.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_02: Because he went to Florida where this Adam the Wu lived and he was supposed
1:01:07
SPEAKER_02: to meet up with him that day to go,
1:01:11
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: this Adam the Wu was supposed to show him around areas of Florida,
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: you know, for his travel vlog.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_02: And he went to Adam's house and knock on the door and no answer and no answer of
1:01:25
SPEAKER_02: the phone and blah, blah, blah.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_02: So this guy got a ladder.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_02: And climbed up like to the second story window and looked in and saw him dead on his bed.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_02: Oops.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, this guy, he lost his YouTube channel.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_01: Why?
1:01:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, according to what he was saying,
1:01:47
SPEAKER_02: because when you lose your YouTube channel, you have no access to anything.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: That is true.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_02: So you don't even know what you did or nothing, you know?
1:01:57
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_02: And so, you know,
1:02:00
SPEAKER_02: he had by proxy,
1:02:02
SPEAKER_02: he had, you know, another YouTuber put up his video saying, hey, it's me.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm all right.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_02: I lost my channel.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_02: Anybody got any connections with YouTube so I could find out what the hell went wrong here?
1:02:16
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_02: This guy had a half a million followers.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_02: Seven years, half a million.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_02: And they yanked his channel.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_02: Not a strike, not a suspension, nothing.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_02: And the only thing that he got from them was that one of his videos
1:02:36
SPEAKER_02: that he filmed three fucking years ago came up on the radar as quote-unquote going
1:02:43
SPEAKER_02: against their nudity and sexual exploitation policies.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_01: Wow, and they yanked the whole channel for that, huh?
1:02:53
SPEAKER_02: And the only thing that he can think of is that he was at some...
1:02:59
SPEAKER_02: What do you want to call a outdoor fair type thing in Germany?
1:03:06
SPEAKER_02: And the, what do you want to call the standards are a little bit different over there?
1:03:12
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_02: To where they had some kind of like scantily clad dancer girls doing some kind of.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_01: Chick flashing her tits or something.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, not even that.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't even that.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_02: It was just scantily clad.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_02: Cabaret-style show that he,
1:03:29
SPEAKER_02: during his walk through the Midway or whatever it was he was at, he filmed that.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_02: And that's the only thing that knocked his channel down, but that was from three years ago.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that sounds about right.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't shock me.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: I know, but what I'm just telling you, what a shitty thing that happened.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, when they took our channel, it was for a video, wasn't it for- 10 years ago.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_01: 10 or 12 years or something.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_01: It was like a long time.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_02: So just out of, you know, just out of conversation, I felt bad for that guy.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_02: He built up that channel to half a million subscribers,
1:04:14
SPEAKER_02: followers, and,
1:04:15
SPEAKER_02: you know- Hate to say it,
1:04:18
SPEAKER_02: but when you put your eggs all in one basket, that's pretty fucked up.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_02: And he was just like, yeah, I don't know what to do because this was my livelihood.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you better go get a job.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_01: That's what you're going to do because even to move over to Rumble or something,
1:04:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's going to take a long time to build back up to half a million followers.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, And I don't know this guy's channel from anything.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't really watch travel stuff.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_01: But if he was super active on social media as well,
1:04:51
SPEAKER_01: and that's how he built his channel,
1:04:53
SPEAKER_01: was through X or Facebook or Instagram or whatever.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the whole thing.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: He wasn't into X or nothing.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh, boy.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_02: YouTube was his only thing that he had.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, boy.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, he better look forward to that first $18 check from Rumble because that's
1:05:07
SPEAKER_01: about what he's in for.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean...
1:05:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_01: He should never put it all in one basket.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_01: That's why people bitch and moan about me.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_01: And they always say, there's so many places I can't figure out where the shit.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like,
1:05:21
SPEAKER_01: it's everywhere,
1:05:22
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:05:23
SPEAKER_01: and having it everywhere is a godsend because eventually they're going
1:05:27
SPEAKER_01: to yank down this YouTube channel.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure, you know, and when they do nothing changes, you know, it's still on rumble.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_01: It's still on stack.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_01: It's still on.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, we talked about this years ago when you were diversifying this whole thing.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, so we don't get fucked again.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_01: We learned our lesson.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_01: Same way this guy learned his lesson.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_01: Thank God I had BitChute because otherwise I wouldn't have had any archives of anything.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_01: And the only reason I had BitChute was because I was terrified of getting struck
1:06:04
SPEAKER_01: for language stuff.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_01: I knew that nothing was going to...
1:06:07
SPEAKER_01: Remember I went through a phase where I was trying to...
1:06:09
SPEAKER_01: Remember I had a Pornhub channel at one point just because I didn't think they would censor us.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_01: And then they censored us.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_01: That was the crazy part.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_01: They took us down because we didn't have any fucking on it.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_01: We just had talk.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_01: And they took us off their platform.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_02: I just shot over his little couple minutes.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: He's on somebody else's channel telling about what happened to him.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: You know,
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: I just thought you would find this interesting because I just saw this before
1:06:40
SPEAKER_02: the show started tonight and I was just like,
1:06:42
SPEAKER_02: oh, Jesus, what a sad situation for this guy.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_02: You know, he just, you know, he just,
1:06:53
SPEAKER_02: just unfortunate turn of events.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_01: Let's see what we got here.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_03: Look at these comment sets on this laptop.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_03: They are saying I'm totally crazy.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_03: Unhinged?
1:07:03
SPEAKER_03: I'll show you unhinged.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm just getting started.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_03: You can't stop rock and roll.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_03: You can't stop me.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_03: German in Venice and I do not have good news.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_03: Really bad news actually, for me at least.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_03: So what happened is I waited a couple days to appeal and last night I decided to send a letter.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_03: A lot of people sent me information what I should write,
1:07:31
SPEAKER_03: what I can write and you don't have too many Characters to write with.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: You only have 800 characters.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_03: 50 go away with your channel name and then you have to type in whatever you want to say.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_03: So 750 is not that much.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, I sent it in and they got it.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_03: They say, thank you.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_03: We got your appeal.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_03: We will take another careful look at your channel and follow up by email as soon
1:07:55
SPEAKER_03: as we have an answer.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_03: Our reviews usually take two business days or even longer.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_03: After two hours, I got my response, and I'm gonna read it to you right now.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_03: It says, appeal decision, your channel won't be back Yeah, he got royally fucked.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_02: So he's got a little explanation what he thinks may or may not happen.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_03: So that's really bad news.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_03: And I really still do not know what I got to other two strikes.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_03: People told me how to sign into my account.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_03: I tried it.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_03: You cannot access anything that shows why you got two more strikes.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_03: I got one because of the wheel.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_03: I can agree.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I know what happened, but that was three years ago.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_03: Like I said, how can I get a strike for that?
1:09:14
SPEAKER_03: I always made sure everything's supposed to be good.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_03: So this is what happened.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_03: And I want to say thank you to all the people that reached out.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_03: I can't really answer everybody.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_03: Thousands of people messaged me and texted me and so there's really nothing I can do.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_03: But I wanted to ask you guys to keep helping me out.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_03: Somebody told me on Twitter, which used to be Twitter.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_03: It's called now X.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_03: It's Elon Musk X.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_03: And there's a team called Team YouTube.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_03: And you can write them and you can say, hey, German and Venice channel is down.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_03: What happened?
1:09:52
SPEAKER_03: Can we get some answers?
1:09:53
SPEAKER_03: Can you...
1:09:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what to- No, that's going to work.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_01: Don't do that.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_01: Don't even waste your time on that.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_01: That's not going to work.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_01: Look, they hit him back in two hours.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: The AI did it.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_01: Nobody went and was like, hmm, let's see here.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_01: Let's watch this video.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_01: That didn't happen.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_01: Bottom line, this guy probably wasn't making YouTube a ton of money.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_02: Again, I don't know enough about it.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_02: I just felt bad for them.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it's bad.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_01: It's terrible.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_01: But for him to not have, like,
1:10:31
SPEAKER_01: even when our channel got zapped,
1:10:33
SPEAKER_01: and I'm not trying to compare us to a channel with 500,000 fucking subscribers.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_01: That's a huge channel.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_01: It is.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_01: But at least we had, one, we had BitChute.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_01: I was always loading to BitChute, just in case.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, always loading to BitChute.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_01: But two, you had a hard drive full of all the actual audio for the entire history of the show.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_01: So worst case scenario, which we did, didn't I?
1:11:00
SPEAKER_01: I had you send me a bunch.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I sent you a whole shit ton.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_01: And I made new videos out of those clips.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_01: Thankfully, we had that as an archive.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_01: This guy, I mean, how do you...
1:11:15
SPEAKER_01: When your channel reaches a certain point,
1:11:17
SPEAKER_01: you got to have somewhere to go to get your stuff in case something bad happens
1:11:21
SPEAKER_01: because you don't know what's going to happen.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_01: And I'm with you.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_01: I feel bad for this guy,
1:11:26
SPEAKER_01: but my goodness, my man,
1:11:30
SPEAKER_01: if all you had to eat was four eggs, why'd you put them all in the same place?
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: So, well, good luck to the German in Venice.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_02: They have to go back to Germany.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_01: Holy smokes.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_01: I feel for him.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_01: That sucks.
1:11:52
SPEAKER_01: I ain't seeing anybody get fucked with that, especially on stupid ass YouTube.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, especially when it was something that he posted years ago.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know this guy's channel from anything,
1:12:03
SPEAKER_01: but I'm going to assume just by listening to him speak here and the fact
1:12:07
SPEAKER_01: that he's not like these motherfuckers, you know, he's very calm and whatever.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm assuming he's not controversy guy.
1:12:15
SPEAKER_02: No, no, not at all.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm assuming he's like, hey, look at this.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_01: We're on the road and look at this.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, more or less.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, more or less.
1:12:22
SPEAKER_02: It's just,
1:12:23
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:12:24
SPEAKER_02: he's living and learning life in a new country and,
1:12:28
SPEAKER_02: you know, discovering new things.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: he's still awed by the Hollywood scene and,
1:12:35
SPEAKER_02: you know, going to the Hollywood sign, you know, I'm up here at the Hollywood sign.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_02: You know, this is the greatest thing ever.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he's not a cage rattler at all.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_02: And he's not the kind that should
1:12:47
SPEAKER_01: get fucked like.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, we're the kind that should get fucked like this.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_01: And we do.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_01: And we do.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_01: You know, we constantly.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_01: Dude, it is such a hassle to post even the smallest clips.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_01: I literally was working on my prompts today to find the clips to use.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_01: And, I mean,
1:13:05
SPEAKER_01: I have a big old block,
1:13:07
SPEAKER_01: a big piece of what the AI tells me is,
1:13:12
SPEAKER_01: That it checked from six minutes and 18 seconds to 11 minutes and five seconds.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_01: And these are the words and these are the phrases that will violate terms of service.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_01: So you need to go edit it.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_01: Or this is what you said that violates it.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_01: Or this is where you showed a gun.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_01: So don't use this segment,
1:13:36
SPEAKER_01: you know, because they don't want you showing guns and blah, blah.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_01: Like I have had to train.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how anybody does anything on YouTube without AI anymore.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_01: Anybody that rattles the cage even a little bit.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_01: Because literally, I have it looking for legal stuff.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_01: I have it looking for terms of service stuff.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_01: Just to make sure that we don't get fucked.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_01: You know?
1:14:01
SPEAKER_01: You have to.
1:14:03
SPEAKER_01: We have to.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_01: This guy should never have had to do that.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_01: I can't imagine that seeing the fucking...
1:14:12
SPEAKER_01: You know,
1:14:13
SPEAKER_01: the Lemmy statue at the whiskey or whatever is a terms of service violation
1:14:19
SPEAKER_01: or something.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_01: It's so stupid.
1:14:21
SPEAKER_01: Just take the guy's video down.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_01: Send him a warning.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_01: Don't let him post for a week and move the fuck on.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_01: What is the problem?
1:14:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if he had a fuck scene or something in there, that's one thing.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_01: But like you said,
1:14:34
SPEAKER_01: it was probably a passing shot of something,
1:14:38
SPEAKER_01: you know, of Some chick with a thong or something.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
1:14:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, basically, that's what he said.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: He said,
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: I have to be careful if I'm, like,
1:14:45
SPEAKER_02: down on Venice Beach or something that I don't tan around too closely on the,
1:14:53
SPEAKER_02: you know, girls in bikinis or something.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_02: Right, definitely.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_02: It's like, God forbid you see a girl in a bikini.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no kidding.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know what is good?
1:15:02
SPEAKER_01: That would be not safe.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that would be terrible.
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1:16:04
SPEAKER_01: You know what would be good to see, though?
1:16:07
SPEAKER_01: Do you know?
1:16:08
SPEAKER_02: What's that?
1:16:09
SPEAKER_01: Our good friend David Reese.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_01: David Reese is with us here.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_01: David Reese, how are you, sir?
1:16:16
SPEAKER_00: Can you hear me?
1:16:17
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_01: We can hear you.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_00: Hey, guys.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_00: Kind of following what you're talking about.
1:16:23
SPEAKER_00: Bikinis?
1:16:24
SPEAKER_00: Venice Beach?
1:16:27
SPEAKER_00: What happened?
1:16:28
SPEAKER_00: Somebody got flagged?
1:16:29
SPEAKER_00: It's like 5 o'clock in the morning here in Europe.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, huh?
1:16:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_01: No, this guy lost his YouTube channel.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_01: He did like a travel channel,
1:16:38
SPEAKER_01: one of those where you just kind of go around and you're like, hey,
1:16:41
SPEAKER_01: here's a cool restaurant or here's a cool venue or whatever,
1:16:44
SPEAKER_01: you know, those kind of channels.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_01: And he had 500,000 followers and he got his channel yanked
1:16:51
SPEAKER_01: for alleged nudity three years ago and they won't even show him what he did wrong.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_00: Ridiculous.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_00: What was it?
1:17:04
SPEAKER_00: Probably in California, just filming somebody who didn't like it and reported him or something.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's exactly what he was thinking too.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_00: That's a lot of followers, 500 grand.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_02: Seven years of work down the drain.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_00: Good morning, gentlemen.
1:17:28
SPEAKER_02: So are you just getting up or you just haven't gone to bed yet?
1:17:33
SPEAKER_00: I got up about an hour ago.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_00: I went to bed early.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_00: My motto, early to bed, early to rise, put in your earbuds and advertise.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_00: No, I've been up for a little while,
1:17:47
SPEAKER_00: coffeed out,
1:17:48
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:17:49
SPEAKER_00: walked the dog, took his dump, got him fed and Sitting here watching you guys.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_00: What are you trying to get us yanked off
1:17:57
SPEAKER_02: of YouTube, David?
1:17:58
SPEAKER_02: Are you trying to get us yanked for saying taking a dump bodily functions on YouTube?
1:18:04
SPEAKER_02: God damn it.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_00: I said my dog, not
1:18:06
SPEAKER_02: me.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_00: Can they sanction dogs?
1:18:14
SPEAKER_00: Who knows these days, right?
1:18:18
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead, Neely.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, David, you got a, got a new, uh, Bangalore choir release coming out
1:18:27
SPEAKER_00: called Payload.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
1:18:30
SPEAKER_02: And it's a payload of music.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_02: A lot of, a lot of, a lot of quick hitters is what I would call them.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_02: They're very, just a rapid fire, uh, uh, grouping of songs here.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_02: They're just, just kind of short and to the point and bang, bang, bang.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I kind of moved, I moved my writing team around.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_00: I started working with Tommy McWilliams and Steve Gordon,
1:19:02
SPEAKER_00: who's got a, I met Tommy with Steve, MIA, Steve Gordon, MIA.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_00: They asked me to sing on this MIA record,
1:19:13
SPEAKER_00: which has Doug Bennett, Ripper, the dude from Spread Eagle, Freeman.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_00: Living Dead Girls on it.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_00: And they kind of said, hey, you want to write some tunes?
1:19:27
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, what do you got?
1:19:29
SPEAKER_00: And then I started looking into their past.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, Desmond Child, John Cicada, Sakura, these guys work with everybody.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_00: So that can't hurt, right?
1:19:40
SPEAKER_00: So we kicked it off and it just kind of clicked.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, one thing led to another.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_01: Right on.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, David, how do you differentiate these days what you're going to do?
1:19:56
SPEAKER_01: Because, I mean, you do a lot of music.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_01: You do quote-unquote solo stuff.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_01: You have Bangalore Choir.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_01: You have other things that you do, like this MIA thing as well.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you do a lot of things.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_01: Are you one of those guys that constantly writes and finds a place for it,
1:20:13
SPEAKER_01: or do you write to projects?
1:20:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_00: I get a lot of emails asking me to participate,
1:20:24
SPEAKER_00: and sometimes it's already lyrically done,
1:20:28
SPEAKER_00: and there's a guy kind of howling away what he wants me to sing,
1:20:33
SPEAKER_00: gun for hire kind of stuff,
1:20:35
SPEAKER_00: which is, you know, you get hacked a lot by, you know, the public.
1:20:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, he's on this, he's on that.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, for God's sake, some man's got to eat, right?
1:20:46
SPEAKER_00: So I create sometimes.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_00: And submit to other people,
1:20:52
SPEAKER_00: but a lot of,
1:20:52
SPEAKER_00: most of the time it's already done and they just need somebody that's kind of known
1:20:57
SPEAKER_00: to like promote their, lift their project a little higher.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_00: And during COVID, I mean, we all needed saving, you know?
1:21:05
SPEAKER_00: So I took on way more than I could chew.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_00: I backed away from it a little bit,
1:21:13
SPEAKER_00: but yeah,
1:21:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm always, I mean,
1:21:15
SPEAKER_00: I've got one of those brains that,
1:21:17
SPEAKER_00: that I don't know, maybe I should change it out because it kind of drives me nuts.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_00: I'll wake up at 2 a.m. and something in my head, you know, that evening pee that we have to do.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_00: And if I got an idea,
1:21:28
SPEAKER_00: then I can't sleep until I go downstairs and grab the phone and start singing
1:21:35
SPEAKER_00: and making noise, you know.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:21:37
SPEAKER_01: It's a little nuts.
1:21:38
SPEAKER_00: It drives me a little crazy, to be honest.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_00: But it's just how I work, you know.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_02: He's just laying in bed going, what rhymes with orange?
1:21:46
SPEAKER_02: Orange.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's nuts, dude.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's an anxiety or a compulsiveness or whatever it is,
1:21:53
SPEAKER_00: but if I don't act,
1:21:56
SPEAKER_00: I won't be able to go to sleep and remember what I was thinking
1:21:59
SPEAKER_00: about three hours later.
1:22:01
SPEAKER_00: Impossible.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_01: What was I doing?
1:22:04
SPEAKER_01: How many of those songs that you've taken at two in the morning and scribbled down
1:22:08
SPEAKER_01: or sung into your phone or whatever actually turn into something?
1:22:12
SPEAKER_01: Is it a high number?
1:22:13
SPEAKER_01: Is it like one for every thousand?
1:22:16
SPEAKER_00: I'd say at least minimum, well, maximum one per 100.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_00: That I like.
1:22:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you think it's the best thing that's ever come into your head,
1:22:29
SPEAKER_00: you know, at two in the morning, but it's dribble, you know?
1:22:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, sometimes it's a collaboration of just little pieces.
1:22:39
SPEAKER_00: I'll put them all on the phone and then I'll, what the hell am I talking about?
1:22:43
SPEAKER_00: And then Oh, that works with that.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_00: That works with that.
1:22:46
SPEAKER_00: But you know, really, if I complete one song out of a hundred, I think that's my average.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_00: I think Shanker said it was like one in 500 for him.
1:22:58
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:22:58
SPEAKER_00: It's pretty, it's weird.
1:23:00
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to be original, dude.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_02: So do you ever,
1:23:04
SPEAKER_02: do you ever have something that you did a while ago and then all of
1:23:07
SPEAKER_02: a sudden it comes back around again?
1:23:09
SPEAKER_00: I just did that yesterday.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_00: Um,
1:23:15
SPEAKER_00: Presented it to Tommy McWilliams and he's like, dude, that's really good.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, is it?
1:23:21
SPEAKER_00: And I, cause I don't know.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_00: I was just,
1:23:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm doing a,
1:23:25
SPEAKER_00: we're doing Holland on the 24th and electric set with Vengeance and
1:23:31
SPEAKER_00: a band called Picture.
1:23:32
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember them?
1:23:34
SPEAKER_00: Vaguely.
1:23:35
SPEAKER_00: They were big in the eighties and Vengeance,
1:23:38
SPEAKER_00: you know, they're just a rocking bunch of maniacs and They're really big.
1:23:42
SPEAKER_00: They're out of Holland.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_00: We're doing that.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_00: And then I'm doing a November 6th and 7th acoustic
1:23:48
SPEAKER_01: kind
1:23:50
SPEAKER_00: of release party stuff.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_00: And I was going through all these cover songs that we're going to add to the set.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_00: And then this thing popped up.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_00: It's called Little Morningstar Woman.
1:24:02
SPEAKER_00: But I cut it to Morningstar Woman.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_00: And it basically,
1:24:06
SPEAKER_00: it's about my granddaughter who's half native and her tribal name,
1:24:10
SPEAKER_00: the Blackfoot Nation of Montana's Morningstar Woman.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_00: So I thought that was a cool title.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_00: So I just started scribbling and singing into this and I presented it and it seems
1:24:21
SPEAKER_00: to have taken some legs.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_00: It might turn into something.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_01: Right on.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_01: David, with Bangalore Choir now,
1:24:33
SPEAKER_01: am I right in thinking it's on El Puerto, the same as your solo stuff?
1:24:36
SPEAKER_01: Yes?
1:24:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was with Brave Words last year when I did the Rapid Fire Succession on Target Part 2.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_00: And hit some glitches with certain people.
1:24:50
SPEAKER_00: And El Puerto and I have known each other for, what,
1:24:55
SPEAKER_00: Ten years we've worked together.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_00: And before I decided to move on, I called them and said, Hey, I want to come home.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, we're back together again.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_00: Not to say it's been an easy ride because there's a ton of restrictions going on,
1:25:13
SPEAKER_00: like you were talking about earlier with this guy.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:25:17
SPEAKER_00: The labels,
1:25:18
SPEAKER_00: small businesses being attacked by Brussels in the EU where they're limited to
1:25:23
SPEAKER_00: where they can release records.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_00: So like this new album,
1:25:26
SPEAKER_00: Payload,
1:25:27
SPEAKER_00: in the EU is released in Germany and Switzerland,
1:25:31
SPEAKER_00: but then it has to be ordered by other EU countries out of Amazon
1:25:36
SPEAKER_00: and other distributors.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_00: It's a nightmare.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_00: What they've created for the music business.
1:25:43
SPEAKER_00: And I blame it largely on people like Angela Merkel,
1:25:48
SPEAKER_00: I looked into all that when I was sitting here wondering if I was going
1:25:54
SPEAKER_00: to get arrested if I went out into the street.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_00: Remember those days?
1:25:57
SPEAKER_00: It was insane over here.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_00: Angela Merkel had made a comment about bailing out small companies and all this stuff.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_00: She had found that the music business was a non-essential entity.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_00: My obsessive compulsive brain with nothing else to do,
1:26:14
SPEAKER_00: I started looking into like just the tax revenue of the music industry.
1:26:19
SPEAKER_00: That's not just rock and roll, that's classic ballet, everything.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_00: And I found out just in Germany,
1:26:27
SPEAKER_00: the tax revenue taken from music,
1:26:30
SPEAKER_00: some sort of another entertainment was 40 billion euros per year that we contribute
1:26:37
SPEAKER_00: in some form or another.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_00: How can you say it's a non-essential entity,
1:26:40
SPEAKER_00: which means that a lot of the small businesses like labels and people
1:26:44
SPEAKER_00: who needed survival just to keep the doors open were closed.
1:26:50
SPEAKER_00: And other entities were given large sums of money to stay afloat.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_00: And since then, it's been challenging.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_01: Who the hell gives Merkel the right to decide what is a valued entity versus
1:27:10
SPEAKER_01: a non-essential entity?
1:27:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's crazy.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_01: Is making plastic essential or is that just something we like bottled water versus a tap?
1:27:25
SPEAKER_00: What is plastic made out of, though?
1:27:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you know how green Europe has gone, oil.
1:27:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
1:27:33
SPEAKER_00: I get conspiracy metal hat thoughts about a lot of things, you know, when it comes to that.
1:27:39
SPEAKER_00: And right now,
1:27:40
SPEAKER_00: yesterday,
1:27:41
SPEAKER_00: as a matter of fact,
1:27:42
SPEAKER_00: I was told Belgium,
1:27:43
SPEAKER_00: Brussels is cutting the throats of small businesses, not only music.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, I get a lot of messages.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_00: Hey, man, I'm trying to buy your record.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_00: If a guy's in Bulgaria or Romania, I can't get it.
1:27:57
SPEAKER_00: How do I buy it?
1:27:58
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh, God.
1:27:59
SPEAKER_00: So I called the label and they said, hey,
1:28:01
SPEAKER_00: we've been restricted to Germany,
1:28:03
SPEAKER_00: Switzerland, U.S. distributors, distribution companies.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_00: It's a mess.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_00: And I don't blame solely Trump.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_00: I blame everybody involved with this.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_00: It's not just him.
1:28:18
SPEAKER_00: They're all making a cluster.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_00: I can't say it.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_00: It's a clusterfuck.
1:28:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's like,
1:28:28
SPEAKER_00: what else does rock and roll need any more kicks in the balls,
1:28:32
SPEAKER_00: you know, for fucking sales and keeping us alive and afloat, right?
1:28:36
SPEAKER_00: It's always,
1:28:37
SPEAKER_00: every fucking day I wake up,
1:28:39
SPEAKER_00: it's like another hurdle to jump because of this government proposal.
1:28:45
SPEAKER_00: It's fucking bullshit.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, let me ask you this, David,
1:28:50
SPEAKER_01: and I know it's more than just music, so I'll say that before asking the question.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_01: But as a musician,
1:28:57
SPEAKER_01: what keeps you living there instead of coming back here,
1:29:03
SPEAKER_01: where I'm assuming is the least restrictive of the places to be a musician?
1:29:11
SPEAKER_00: I fell in love with an Italian woman.
1:29:13
SPEAKER_00: She can't get on a plane?
1:29:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I mean,
1:29:18
SPEAKER_00: the thing is, it's funny because Bangalore Choir was a U.S.-based group, right?
1:29:23
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:29:23
SPEAKER_00: We got our kickoff in L.A.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_00: And we had Howard Kaufman managing us, Whiteslake, Harb, everybody, Stevie Nicks.
1:29:34
SPEAKER_00: That's how I met her because I was hanging out at Stevie's house and
1:29:38
SPEAKER_00: that whole giant Warner Brothers record deal came together after Accept.
1:29:43
SPEAKER_00: But my market because of Accept is stronger in the EU.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:29:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_03: Look at these comment sets on this laptop.
1:29:56
SPEAKER_03: They are saying I'm totally crazy.
1:29:57
SPEAKER_03: Unhinged?
1:29:58
SPEAKER_03: I'll show you unhinged.
1:29:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm just getting started.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_03: You can't stop rock and roll.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_03: You can't stop me.
1:30:09
SPEAKER_00: What keeps me here is, yeah, I mean, I'm not getting rich living in Europe.
1:30:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm married.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_00: My foundation is here now.
1:30:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to answer that, really.
1:30:21
SPEAKER_00: I've been on the phone incessantly.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_00: With American bookers.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_00: And it seems like the mantra now is,
1:30:29
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:30:30
SPEAKER_00: docking, slaughter, Lita Ford, Bret Michaels, or Poison, or Sebastian Bach.
1:30:35
SPEAKER_00: That's the only thing that promoters are safely staying with, right?
1:30:40
SPEAKER_00: And every four months,
1:30:41
SPEAKER_00: it's the same four or five bands on the same four or five circuits, right?
1:30:47
SPEAKER_00: And they're not willing to step out and go, Hey, yeah, we know who your band is.
1:30:51
SPEAKER_00: Great band, but not interested.
1:30:54
SPEAKER_00: Or come on over 8,000 mile round trip and play for the door and no hotels.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
1:31:02
SPEAKER_00: It's just like, no.
1:31:04
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:31:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm not doing that.
1:31:08
SPEAKER_00: Here, I can make,
1:31:09
SPEAKER_00: I get a fee for my shows and I can get on,
1:31:13
SPEAKER_00: there's festival circuits in Europe too that kick off in the early summer into
1:31:18
SPEAKER_00: the early fall.
1:31:19
SPEAKER_00: So that's a big deal for me.
1:31:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_00: The club circuit is getting more competitive, I have to say.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_00: After COVID, again, it's flipped everything on its head.
1:31:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, David,
1:31:35
SPEAKER_02: you used the term,
1:31:37
SPEAKER_02: you were talking about release of music and stuff,
1:31:40
SPEAKER_02: and you used the term, people asking you, where can I get your record?
1:31:46
SPEAKER_02: Now, you are talking about physical product here,
1:31:50
SPEAKER_02: you know, and are you talking CD or vinyl or both or what kind of physical product?
1:31:56
SPEAKER_00: Mostly CD.
1:31:59
SPEAKER_00: Again, that's a limited market now.
1:32:02
SPEAKER_00: It was the last time you saw a new car with a CD player.
1:32:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:32:07
SPEAKER_00: It's a, what do you call it, a novelty product?
1:32:15
SPEAKER_00: I've
1:32:23
SPEAKER_00: got friends that have literally 10,000 copies.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_00: They tell me CDs that in a lifetime could never listen to,
1:32:29
SPEAKER_00: but it's kind of their man cave or girl cave where that's their little area
1:32:34
SPEAKER_00: and they'll go pick a CD,
1:32:35
SPEAKER_00: but they say they always go back to like the same 10 records
1:32:38
SPEAKER_00: and they're having like these with their families and getting older.
1:32:43
SPEAKER_00: They're saying, What are we doing with this room full of CDs?
1:32:47
SPEAKER_00: Let's sell all this stuff and make it a sewing room or the grandkids room, right?
1:32:51
SPEAKER_00: I hear that a lot.
1:32:53
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of stuff is now on a USB stick, which I can't listen to music that way.
1:32:58
SPEAKER_00: It just hurts my ears.
1:33:01
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, physical order.
1:33:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I cherish those people.
1:33:07
SPEAKER_00: Because anybody can click on a link on Spotify and listen to a song, right?
1:33:11
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:33:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, and Spotify,
1:33:14
SPEAKER_01: tell the people, I mean,
1:33:15
SPEAKER_01: we say it all the time,
1:33:16
SPEAKER_01: but it's better when guys like yourself that are making music say it.
1:33:20
SPEAKER_01: Spotify is completely useless to you, right?
1:33:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're not getting, what are you getting, a check for $10 or something?
1:33:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's a ridiculous model that does not work for musicians.
1:33:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to go out on a limb and be honest with you.
1:33:36
SPEAKER_00: Accept record I did was, I think it was, Nearly 100,000 streams.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:33:43
SPEAKER_00: And I got a check for, I think, 16 euros, which is like $18.
1:33:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:33:53
SPEAKER_01: Retirement money.
1:33:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:33:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's like when you get in your account, everybody takes a piece of it.
1:34:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_00: And by the time I get it, it's pennies.
1:34:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it might be a pizza,
1:34:10
SPEAKER_00: but It's kind of a necessary evil in a way because the people that don't have access
1:34:16
SPEAKER_00: to a CD player or a turntable, that's their way of listening to music now.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_00: So you can't really say,
1:34:26
SPEAKER_00: well, F streaming platforms because that's where the generation's moving.
1:34:32
SPEAKER_00: But financially, no, there's nothing.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing for the bands.
1:34:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you're in the Over a million streams kind of market, which I'm not.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_00: I think you start seeing real monetization after $500,000.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_00: You start to see better.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_01: I'll always argue this, and you tell me.
1:34:58
SPEAKER_01: Better is fine, but it's a less artistic thing.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, we as fans grew to our bands, not only because
1:35:25
SPEAKER_01: We liked the songs,
1:35:26
SPEAKER_01: but we would pull it apart and we would look at the lyrics and
1:35:29
SPEAKER_01: the lyrics would mean something to us.
1:35:31
SPEAKER_01: Now, I equate what we do now with Spotify as an updated model of riding around in
1:35:38
SPEAKER_01: an elevator where there's something playing.
1:35:41
SPEAKER_01: You don't really pay enough attention because you don't have any skin in the game to get it.
1:35:46
SPEAKER_01: You can listen to everything that's ever been recorded for 10 bucks a month.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, they've taken the passion Out of it by making it too easy to obtain the music.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_01: That's my thought.
1:36:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, I always equate it to what Lukather said.
1:36:02
SPEAKER_00: It's like drive-thru music.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_00: By the time you hit the first roundabout or the first light,
1:36:09
SPEAKER_00: I've already got my hand in my bag and I've finished the fries.
1:36:12
SPEAKER_00: And by the time I hit the second light, I've eaten the burger and I forgot what I had for lunch.
1:36:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's kind of how it's become disposable.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:36:22
SPEAKER_00: When you mentioned the artwork,
1:36:24
SPEAKER_00: the lyrics,
1:36:26
SPEAKER_00: you and I and Neely, right,
1:36:28
SPEAKER_00: we all grew up looking at the vinyl,
1:36:30
SPEAKER_00: reading the inside insert or the CD book and trying to magnify the lyrics,
1:36:34
SPEAKER_00: of course, because it's that big.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_00: But it meant something to us.
1:36:39
SPEAKER_00: And it's all about interpretation.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_00: And the thing about streaming is I think you have most people graze through it
1:36:46
SPEAKER_00: about 15 to 30 seconds and then they're on to the next thing.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:36:52
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't even equate into me being like, oh, that's one penny because one guy checked out.
1:36:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Dave's got a new record out with Bangalore Choir.
1:37:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a cool song.
1:37:03
SPEAKER_00: Next.
1:37:05
SPEAKER_00: Who's this guy?
1:37:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm way behind the curve with bands in town and TikTok and Instagram.
1:37:16
SPEAKER_00: It's all connected, guys.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_00: You have to be in this fight.
1:37:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, to be kind of relevant, you know, like your mug is there.
1:37:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
1:37:26
SPEAKER_00: And you get these reminders.
1:37:28
SPEAKER_00: Hey, you've kind of slagged off.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_00: You need to freshen up.
1:37:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like, how can I say, you know, that the song hasn't said.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_01: You didn't get into this business to be a tech.
1:37:40
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:37:41
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it's irritating because I don't have the brain for it also.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't even, I mean, in the studio, I like to record.
1:37:49
SPEAKER_00: But I'm not a tech nerd where a guy can say,
1:37:52
SPEAKER_00: look at that model outboard gear, blah, blah, blah.
1:37:54
SPEAKER_00: It's a, yeah, I saw those in the 70s and 80s.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_00: But that's a new model of a digital copy of what used to be cool.
1:38:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, the smell and the lights and all that.
1:38:06
SPEAKER_00: That's just a plug in.
1:38:07
SPEAKER_00: It's not even the real thing that I don't know anything about that stuff, you know.
1:38:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, David,
1:38:14
SPEAKER_02: you mentioned,
1:38:15
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:38:15
SPEAKER_02: that you get solicited to participate on, you know, people's projects, albums.
1:38:22
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you do all your own music as well.
1:38:25
SPEAKER_02: But, you know,
1:38:26
SPEAKER_02: from a business standpoint, where is the remuneration in creating new music today?
1:38:35
SPEAKER_00: I need to recoup with more investment in time and creating.
1:38:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well,
1:38:43
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:38:43
SPEAKER_02: when somebody says, hey,
1:38:44
SPEAKER_02: I need you to sing on my record or whatever,
1:38:47
SPEAKER_02: and obviously you get compensated for doing that.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_02: Where is this artist, even yourself, where is that money coming from?
1:38:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, is somebody bankrolling that?
1:39:00
SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, there's really no record labels.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bands are doing it on their own.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:39:10
SPEAKER_00: They're coming out of mom and dad's bank account or their day job.
1:39:17
SPEAKER_00: You can make a record for a couple grand now and it sounds amazing in your bathroom.
1:39:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but for the most part, it's people that are just including myself.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I get a budget to make a record,
1:39:31
SPEAKER_00: but I guarantee you, even though let's say what we're doing right now doesn't pay.
1:39:39
SPEAKER_00: It's my time and effort, just like you guys.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_00: You're talking about what you believe in.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_00: This is your time and effort of creative process, right?
1:39:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:39:49
SPEAKER_00: It's everything.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
1:39:53
SPEAKER_00: back in the day,
1:39:54
SPEAKER_00: people don't remember this,
1:39:55
SPEAKER_00: but when I started, people don't know, like a vinyl record.
1:40:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, I was told when Bangalore came out with On Target, you know, we do a million copies.
1:40:06
SPEAKER_00: We might give you a party,
1:40:07
SPEAKER_00: but if you hit two million copies, We'll definitely give you a platinum party.
1:40:10
SPEAKER_00: And I go, what does that mean?
1:40:12
SPEAKER_00: It used to be like, oh, a gold record.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_00: Everybody was celebrating in pictures.
1:40:15
SPEAKER_00: I found out even in those days,
1:40:17
SPEAKER_00: you got nine cents after all the money that's gone around per copy for a record.
1:40:24
SPEAKER_00: So it really hasn't changed that way, but there was a whole lot more going on.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_00: People buying millions of records, people going to big shows.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because they could afford it.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm going to see Bryan Adams in Italy in November.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_00: It's like 250 bucks for those pieces.
1:40:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's four of us going.
1:40:53
SPEAKER_00: It's a hard thing to answer.
1:40:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to say, you know, I'm going to let this defeat me.
1:40:58
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, sometimes you check your head, like, you know, what's going on?
1:41:02
SPEAKER_00: I do it because I love it.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's not, you know.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_00: These 80s bands that have the big brand,
1:41:09
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:41:09
SPEAKER_00: that constantly pounding the United States,
1:41:13
SPEAKER_00: they come over here, they're not going to sell any tickets.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_00: Really?
1:41:18
SPEAKER_00: They're not going to.
1:41:19
SPEAKER_00: That's why they don't, you know, they do the constant four-month cycle regurgitation.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_00: In the United States, that's their market.
1:41:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:41:28
SPEAKER_00: Over here, you've got the same kind of bands, right?
1:41:30
SPEAKER_00: The European bands, they regurgitate Europe and do the 10-country thing every four months.
1:41:37
SPEAKER_00: Really no different.
1:41:38
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:41:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, David, let me ask you about one record that came out.
1:41:42
SPEAKER_01: It's not you.
1:41:43
SPEAKER_01: In fact, I was surprised you weren't on it.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_01: Wolf Hoffman was out there talking about this Teutonic Titans 50th anniversary record.
1:41:52
SPEAKER_01: And he said on it, he said, I invited everybody that's a former member and no one came.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_01: So I guess my question is, were you invited and why did you not come if you were invited?
1:42:07
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't contacted, and I learned that Hellhammer was sang by a dude from Dangerous Toys.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Jason McMaster, yeah.
1:42:18
SPEAKER_00: I was a little miffed by it,
1:42:20
SPEAKER_00: but then I saw them playing the song in Stockholm and 5,000 kids shouting my chorus.
1:42:28
SPEAKER_00: I play the song every show I do.
1:42:30
SPEAKER_00: People love it.
1:42:31
SPEAKER_00: No, I was not contacted by Wolf,
1:42:34
SPEAKER_00: but what I'm allowed to say right now As Wolf has reached out to me.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_00: We're now speaking again.
1:42:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, they're going on tour again in November, December.
1:42:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't really know who he claims to have reached out to.
1:42:57
SPEAKER_00: Ex-members.
1:42:58
SPEAKER_01: I think York is...
1:43:00
SPEAKER_01: He said,
1:43:01
SPEAKER_01: and again,
1:43:02
SPEAKER_01: I didn't hear him say it,
1:43:03
SPEAKER_01: so I don't know,
1:43:04
SPEAKER_01: but from what I read on Blabbermouth, he said that he contacted all the ex-members.
1:43:11
SPEAKER_01: And, you know,
1:43:12
SPEAKER_01: because me and you do this fairly often,
1:43:15
SPEAKER_01: because you put out a lot of music, I know that you don't have any...
1:43:20
SPEAKER_01: Ill will per se toward Accept as an entity.
1:43:23
SPEAKER_01: And I know you've worked with Udo recently and you have true love for the project
1:43:29
SPEAKER_01: and especially the part of Accept that you were in.
1:43:32
SPEAKER_01: I was very,
1:43:33
SPEAKER_01: very surprised that you did,
1:43:35
SPEAKER_01: even if it wasn't singing Hellhammer, which, I mean,
1:43:37
SPEAKER_01: that would have been kind of weird if you'd sang Balls to the Wall or something,
1:43:41
SPEAKER_01: but,
1:43:42
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:43:43
SPEAKER_01: but I was very surprised knowing you and having spoken to you,
1:43:48
SPEAKER_01: God knows how many times at this point,
1:43:51
SPEAKER_01: That you weren't a part of this thing,
1:43:54
SPEAKER_01: because it really, you should have been a part.
1:43:57
SPEAKER_01: In my mind, you definitely should have been a part of this thing.
1:44:00
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
1:44:01
SPEAKER_00: I've heard that a hundred times since this came out, but, you know, it is his band.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_00: I have no...
1:44:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to get involved with that.
1:44:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I played with Herman.
1:44:17
SPEAKER_00: I did Iron Allies with Herman Frank,
1:44:19
SPEAKER_00: and I'll frankly say that was a regrettable experience for me.
1:44:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about a communication issue with those guys,
1:44:29
SPEAKER_00: all those people that have been involved.
1:44:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that entails because you hear something from one band member and
1:44:36
SPEAKER_00: then you hear something completely different from another.
1:44:39
SPEAKER_00: I've had that same in my personal life with bands.
1:44:43
SPEAKER_00: It's like a bunch of whacked out old housewives,
1:44:46
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:44:46
SPEAKER_00: that are bitching about their ex-husbands,
1:44:50
SPEAKER_00: you know, or the guy they're still married to, but they're miserable.
1:44:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the music business.
1:44:58
SPEAKER_00: But I can say my relationship with Udo is really strong.
1:45:03
SPEAKER_00: That's good.
1:45:04
SPEAKER_00: I can go two or three years and not talk to him and then do a show with him
1:45:08
SPEAKER_00: and it's like, hey,
1:45:09
SPEAKER_00: like I saw him yesterday,
1:45:10
SPEAKER_00: but To have Wolf reach out to me personally was really exciting.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_00: I was in Bulgaria.
1:45:21
SPEAKER_00: What is it now?
1:45:22
SPEAKER_00: October.
1:45:23
SPEAKER_00: It was August.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_00: And I was doing a gig with my songs.
1:45:30
SPEAKER_00: And with the way we were talking earlier about budgets and stuff and no money,
1:45:34
SPEAKER_00: the promoter originally agreed to have my band,
1:45:37
SPEAKER_00: which are mostly Spanish guys,
1:45:39
SPEAKER_00: Come over to Bulgaria, a small festival, do the thing.
1:45:42
SPEAKER_00: But all of a sudden, he changed his mind and said, I don't have the money.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_00: Can you play with this Bulgarian band, which is called The Steel Project?
1:45:50
SPEAKER_00: They can back you.
1:45:51
SPEAKER_00: You play your stuff.
1:45:53
SPEAKER_00: They're really good.
1:45:54
SPEAKER_00: And I went, The Steel Project?
1:45:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I sang on their record like three years ago.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_00: I listened back.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, good players, confident guys.
1:46:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay, anyway,
1:46:04
SPEAKER_00: long story short,
1:46:05
SPEAKER_00: I get to Bulgaria in the middle of August,
1:46:07
SPEAKER_00: and I'm there for rehearsal,
1:46:08
SPEAKER_00: and my phone is ringing,
1:46:11
SPEAKER_00: and I see an American number, and I'm like, I'm not picking that up.
1:46:15
SPEAKER_00: That's scam, right?
1:46:16
SPEAKER_00: That's spam stuff.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm afraid to answer it.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_00: Then the phone rings again, and I'm heading to rehearsal, and I don't answer it.
1:46:24
SPEAKER_00: Then I came back, and there's an email, and lo and behold, it's him.
1:46:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_00: Is this fucking for real?
1:46:35
SPEAKER_00: I haven't spoken to this guy personally in 40 years.
1:46:38
SPEAKER_00: Then we started talking,
1:46:41
SPEAKER_00: and yeah, I'll be able to talk more about that when he gives the green light.
1:46:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:46:48
SPEAKER_01: Which I'm really excited.
1:46:49
SPEAKER_01: Let me ask this, and just tell me that you'll want to comment on it if you don't, but...
1:46:55
SPEAKER_01: Did it feel,
1:46:56
SPEAKER_01: without getting into what you talked about,
1:46:58
SPEAKER_01: did it feel like when you see an old friend for the first time in forever?
1:47:03
SPEAKER_01: Did it feel like, you know, the same as it was?
1:47:05
SPEAKER_01: Or did it feel weird and awkward,
1:47:07
SPEAKER_01: you know, because there's been so much time and obvious issues?
1:47:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:47:12
SPEAKER_00: It was a sense of relief.
1:47:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:47:15
SPEAKER_00: it was like,
1:47:18
SPEAKER_00: I watched that interview you're talking about where he invited everybody.
1:47:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:47:23
SPEAKER_00: And...
1:47:24
SPEAKER_00: He made a comment about Eat The Heat where people apologize for liking the record.
1:47:30
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, why are you apologizing for liking something?
1:47:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you like it, you like it.
1:47:35
SPEAKER_00: It was a weird time for the band.
1:47:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they were trying to break us,
1:47:38
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:47:39
SPEAKER_00: as the new commercial entity because they would hit like 400,000 copies and
1:47:43
SPEAKER_00: then it would stop.
1:47:45
SPEAKER_00: And the labels,
1:47:46
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:47:46
SPEAKER_00: the suit and tie guys get involved and they say,
1:47:48
SPEAKER_00: well, we got to make this thing go big and we're just going to walk away from it.
1:47:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, they had slowly started progressing into a more commercial sound with,
1:47:57
SPEAKER_00: you know, Metal Heart and Russia Roulette.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_00: But they said with a guy like Udo,
1:48:03
SPEAKER_00: we're not going to cross over in the States and be a platinum,
1:48:05
SPEAKER_00: triple platinum kind of thing.
1:48:06
SPEAKER_00: So let's get an American or English speaking guy.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_00: And it's just totally through the solid fan base for a loop.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_00: What have you done?
1:48:16
SPEAKER_00: Then you release a song like Generation Clash, which is from outer space.
1:48:21
SPEAKER_00: When we got songs like Hellhammer, Ecstasy, Detrain, which I fought tooth and nail for.
1:48:26
SPEAKER_00: Let's go out heavy.
1:48:27
SPEAKER_00: Don't scare the old audience.
1:48:30
SPEAKER_00: They're going to go like, what is this?
1:48:32
SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, Dieter told me, the producer, he said, you know, recording one.
1:48:36
SPEAKER_00: I think you and I talked about this, Chris.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_00: Halfway through that production,
1:48:40
SPEAKER_00: he stopped recording and looked at me and said,
1:48:41
SPEAKER_00: you know, you realize if this fails, it's your fault and my fault.
1:48:45
SPEAKER_00: They're going to blame us.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_00: And my arrogance as a 26-year-old kid, this will never fail.
1:48:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm David Reese, you know, I'm the greatest thing.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_00: And he was so right.
1:48:56
SPEAKER_00: Who do they blame?
1:48:58
SPEAKER_00: The new guy.
1:48:59
SPEAKER_00: Look at Ripper.
1:49:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_00: He, that guy.
1:49:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how that guy can sing like he does seven days a week.
1:49:11
SPEAKER_00: But he took a punch in the chin.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_00: Actually,
1:49:14
SPEAKER_00: Judas Priest,
1:49:14
SPEAKER_00: when that whole thing was going on, they contacted me, Ripper, and Ralph Sheepers.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:49:21
SPEAKER_00: I was in Tennessee.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_00: All three were contacted about that.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_00: And he got the gig because of his priest tribute thing.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
1:49:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, the rumor on that, too,
1:49:31
SPEAKER_01: was that they flew Sheepers to England,
1:49:35
SPEAKER_01: and then when Sheepers got there,
1:49:37
SPEAKER_01: then they told them that Ripper got the gig,
1:49:39
SPEAKER_01: so they flew him out only to send him home.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_01: That's horrible.
1:49:43
SPEAKER_00: You know how I blew the audition?
1:49:47
SPEAKER_00: How?
1:49:48
SPEAKER_00: In those days, I was in Tennessee.
1:49:50
SPEAKER_00: I'd walked away from rock and roll.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_00: I did a thing called Circle of Silence with Greg Chason.
1:49:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:49:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:49:57
SPEAKER_00: Everybody, after Grunge took over, decided to go heavy and sabbathy and try to fit in, right?
1:50:02
SPEAKER_00: So the new fans knew it was fake and the old fans were like, what are you doing?
1:50:07
SPEAKER_00: We're all chasing our tails, trying to stay relevant.
1:50:10
SPEAKER_00: And they got a hold of that first Circle of Silence record somehow.
1:50:15
SPEAKER_00: And Jane Andrews, the manager of Priest, sent me a fax out of the blue going, we love this.
1:50:24
SPEAKER_00: Would you be interested in coming over to England?
1:50:26
SPEAKER_00: And I know every priest song backwards, right?
1:50:28
SPEAKER_00: We cover that stuff as kids every night just to get a paycheck.
1:50:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
1:50:35
SPEAKER_00: So I ended up getting like three or four faxes from her.
1:50:38
SPEAKER_00: And after a while, I started getting annoyed.
1:50:39
SPEAKER_00: So I went, I had to go to Europe to do a press tour for the Circle of Silence record.
1:50:47
SPEAKER_00: And I went to Metal Hammer.
1:50:50
SPEAKER_00: And the editor in chief, he goes, hey, I heard a rumor that you're up for priest, man.
1:50:54
SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
1:50:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah,
1:50:56
SPEAKER_00: but they keep sending me,
1:50:58
SPEAKER_00: we really like you, but we're talking to a couple other guys.
1:51:02
SPEAKER_00: He goes, well, I got KK's address in my Rolodex.
1:51:07
SPEAKER_00: He goes, you should write him a letter.
1:51:09
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, actually, terrible idea.
1:51:15
SPEAKER_00: So I sat down and I bin this letter in Munich.
1:51:18
SPEAKER_00: And I mailed it to him from there.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_00: And about a week later, when I got back to the States, I got this hate hat from Jane.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_00: How dare you?
1:51:28
SPEAKER_00: Jake is losing his mind.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_00: How did you get his home address?
1:51:31
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't want to tell anybody how I got it.
1:51:34
SPEAKER_00: You've just eliminated your status and blah, blah, blah.
1:51:37
SPEAKER_00: You blew it.
1:51:39
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, Ripper was already in, but I fucked that up.
1:51:45
SPEAKER_00: I'm tired of it.
1:51:46
SPEAKER_00: How many times are you going to fax me and say, come over to London and jam with the band?
1:51:50
SPEAKER_00: Put me on a plane.
1:51:51
SPEAKER_00: And then I said, hey, I'm in Munich.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_00: I can be there in an hour and a half.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_00: We can jam tonight if you want.
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1:53:05
SPEAKER_00: He didn't like it very much.
1:53:06
SPEAKER_01: Apparently not.
1:53:07
SPEAKER_01: He's like, who is this stalker?
1:53:09
SPEAKER_00: Who the fuck is this guy?
1:53:10
SPEAKER_00: I didn't get my home, especially his home address.
1:53:12
SPEAKER_00: Then, you know, I'm not supposed to, you know, expose how I got it because he's...
1:53:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, David,
1:53:20
SPEAKER_00: you mentioned you're going to go see Bryan Adams for an exorbitant amount of money,
1:53:22
SPEAKER_00: and Chris and I have been really hammering on this
1:53:25
SPEAKER_01: whole cost of
1:53:26
SPEAKER_00: going
1:53:26
SPEAKER_00: to shows these days.
1:53:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's ridiculous, especially the big
1:53:48
SPEAKER_02: The big news of Metallica playing at the Sphere in Las Vegas,
1:53:52
SPEAKER_02: and we were checking out some of the crazy amounts people were paying
1:53:57
SPEAKER_02: to go see this,
1:53:58
SPEAKER_02: like $7,000 a ticket to go see Metallica at the Sphere for,
1:54:04
SPEAKER_02: what, three hours, Chris?
1:54:05
SPEAKER_02: $7,000.
1:54:05
SPEAKER_02: $7,000.
1:54:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
1:54:07
SPEAKER_02: I ain't got the words.
1:54:21
SPEAKER_02: But Chris and I both went to see KK's Priest and Wasp this past week.
1:54:28
SPEAKER_02: And I think I paid, I think I had like 10th row seats or something.
1:54:34
SPEAKER_02: And I think I paid 98 bucks.
1:54:37
SPEAKER_02: And both of us and I agree that that was a great show.
1:54:41
SPEAKER_02: Chris saw it on Thursday.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_02: I saw it last Friday.
1:54:45
SPEAKER_02: And we were just like, holy shit.
1:54:46
SPEAKER_02: And you mentioned Ripper, the way that he sings.
1:54:50
SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
1:54:50
SPEAKER_00: That guy just brings it.
1:54:54
SPEAKER_00: And don't forget the guys on the tour, you know, KK calls them.
1:54:58
SPEAKER_00: They're doing, look at the schedule and then look at Ripper's schedule.
1:55:01
SPEAKER_00: Besides that, I mean, he's down in South America doing 20 in a row.
1:55:05
SPEAKER_00: Then he's in the States doing 20 in a row, and then he's doing Ripper for a KK 30.
1:55:11
SPEAKER_00: And that's not easy stuff to say.
1:55:13
SPEAKER_00: That guy, he's kind of like Dickinson.
1:55:15
SPEAKER_00: He's bulletproof.
1:55:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's got that,
1:55:18
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:55:18
SPEAKER_00: as long as it lasts, and I pray it lasts forever for him, the ability to do that.
1:55:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, great stuff.
1:55:24
SPEAKER_00: I greatly admire him.
1:55:26
SPEAKER_02: He's pushing 60, so, you know, he's not a young...
1:55:30
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the 60 Club.
1:55:31
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
1:55:31
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:55:33
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:55:33
SPEAKER_02: Chris is almost there.
1:55:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm almost there.
1:55:36
SPEAKER_01: Another two years.
1:55:37
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm 66.
1:55:40
SPEAKER_01: Wow, you're pushing the other club.
1:55:41
SPEAKER_01: You're getting into the old age club, my friend.
1:55:45
SPEAKER_00: And God damn it, I feel it.
1:55:48
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:55:49
SPEAKER_00: your tolerance level, I mean,
1:55:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm not trying to take away this ticket thing you brought up, but,
1:55:53
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:55:53
SPEAKER_00: your tolerance level for bullshit,
1:55:55
SPEAKER_00: you know, when you hit the 60 level, it gets minimal.
1:55:59
SPEAKER_00: It's like, fuck you, I've heard that enough times, I don't want to hear it again.
1:56:03
SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, man, quit fucking yanking my dick.
1:56:06
SPEAKER_00: I know this game.
1:56:07
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, back to the ticket prices.
1:56:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, what I was going to say is, what is your take on this ridiculousness of tickets?
1:56:16
SPEAKER_02: Because people,
1:56:17
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:56:18
SPEAKER_02: these shows this summer,
1:56:20
SPEAKER_02: Chris and I talked about the summer lineup of shows that we wanted to go see,
1:56:24
SPEAKER_02: like Triumph was on their 50th anniversary tour.
1:56:28
SPEAKER_02: I wanted to go see that.
1:56:29
SPEAKER_02: Mellencamp was out doing his greatest hits thing.
1:56:33
SPEAKER_02: He was doing over two hours of nothing but hits,
1:56:36
SPEAKER_02: which he hasn't done in,
1:56:37
SPEAKER_02: you know, 20 years and Black Crows were out and different bands I went in.
1:56:43
SPEAKER_02: But these tickets were in the hundreds of dollars to go see these guys.
1:56:48
SPEAKER_02: And they weren't even all that great of seats.
1:56:49
SPEAKER_02: I didn't go to any one of those shows.
1:56:51
SPEAKER_02: And not 200 either.
1:56:52
SPEAKER_01: Not 200 either.
1:56:53
SPEAKER_01: Three to 500 minimum.
1:56:57
SPEAKER_01: Look, they just announced Aerosmith and Friends.
1:57:00
SPEAKER_01: Just this last week,
1:57:02
SPEAKER_01: they announced Aerosmith and Friends,
1:57:04
SPEAKER_01: which means you're going to get five songs from Aerosmith,
1:57:06
SPEAKER_01: then you're going to get a bunch of other people playing Aerosmith songs.
1:57:10
SPEAKER_01: What was the tickets for that, Neely?
1:57:12
SPEAKER_01: $3,000 or something?
1:57:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was some ridiculous amount, like $3,000.
1:57:17
SPEAKER_01: That's Ticketmaster, not Secondary Sales Market.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_01: It's nuts.
1:57:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, I...
1:57:25
SPEAKER_00: We have to keep in,
1:57:26
SPEAKER_00: you know, Live Nation has bought up all the venues, including the small ones.
1:57:31
SPEAKER_00: And Monster Energy is owned by Whoop.
1:57:35
SPEAKER_00: A lot of it is not,
1:57:39
SPEAKER_00: it's not so much as the bands trying to pull greed,
1:57:43
SPEAKER_00: it's the overhead, you know, just to play.
1:57:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but what they've done,
1:57:51
SPEAKER_01: at least in my mind,
1:57:52
SPEAKER_01: David, and you tell me, you're a music fan as well as an artist.
1:57:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
1:57:57
SPEAKER_01: They've taken the fun out of it.
1:57:59
SPEAKER_01: There was a certain amount of fun.
1:58:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, the money was never the issue.
1:58:04
SPEAKER_01: You wanted to go and see whatever it was,
1:58:06
SPEAKER_01: Accept or Pantera or whoever, and it was $25 and a case of beer in your trunk.
1:58:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what you did.
1:58:14
SPEAKER_00: And a parking lot party from hell.
1:58:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:58:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, sometimes a day before...
1:58:20
SPEAKER_00: It happened.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_00: It was an event.
1:58:22
SPEAKER_00: Camping out.
1:58:23
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:58:23
SPEAKER_01: But it never was a thought.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_01: It never was a thought of, can I afford to go?
1:58:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, you never had that.
1:58:32
SPEAKER_01: You never had the stress of, well, I'm either going to pay my mortgage late and go or not go.
1:58:39
SPEAKER_01: Where now, I mean,
1:58:41
SPEAKER_01: thousands of dollars,
1:58:42
SPEAKER_01: you're literally thinking about,
1:58:43
SPEAKER_01: literally, am I going to pay my mortgage this month or not?
1:58:47
SPEAKER_00: It's stupid.
1:58:48
SPEAKER_00: It's fucking ridiculous.
1:58:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just for instance, try Europe.
1:58:56
SPEAKER_00: Everybody wants to go electric and clean, right?
1:58:59
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:58:59
SPEAKER_00: I was sitting there the other day going, okay,
1:59:01
SPEAKER_00: if I rented,
1:59:02
SPEAKER_00: let's say we're not going nightliners anymore,
1:59:04
SPEAKER_00: pulling a trailer, we're in a Mercedes Sprinter, which is all electric, right?
1:59:08
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:59:09
SPEAKER_00: Charging stations are...
1:59:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, about five hours apart.
1:59:14
SPEAKER_00: That's about as much time as you have.
1:59:15
SPEAKER_00: So let's just say I book a tour in Germany on an electric van.
1:59:21
SPEAKER_00: That means I have to stop every four hours and charge that damn van overnight,
1:59:25
SPEAKER_00: which means I got to play in that town.
1:59:27
SPEAKER_00: Is there a venue there?
1:59:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:59:30
SPEAKER_00: Just the overhead, the charging and all that bullshit trickles down to the audience.
1:59:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:59:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Nostalgic Axe, Aerosmith, Tyler Can't Do It Anymore.
1:59:44
SPEAKER_00: God bless him.
1:59:45
SPEAKER_00: We've been gifted by Aerosmith for over 50 years of great songs.
1:59:51
SPEAKER_00: But $3,000 at the Hollywood Bowl.
1:59:56
SPEAKER_01: To see Axl Rose singing an Aerosmith song?
2:00:00
SPEAKER_01: No way.
2:00:01
SPEAKER_00: No, or Lenny Kravitz.
2:00:02
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're all great artists, and they've done their thing, but...
2:00:10
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
2:00:10
SPEAKER_00: There are people that are going to pay it, though.
2:00:12
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it'll sell out.
2:00:13
SPEAKER_01: There's no doubt it'll sell out.
2:00:17
SPEAKER_01: So who do we blame?
2:00:18
SPEAKER_01: And I'll tell you who me and Neely blame.
2:00:20
SPEAKER_01: We blame the fans.
2:00:21
SPEAKER_01: We constantly are like, stop paying this money.
2:00:25
SPEAKER_01: I know it's going to suck for some of the bands for a year or two,
2:00:28
SPEAKER_01: but you have to stop taking it in the ass if you want the prices to come to
2:00:34
SPEAKER_01: a reasonable level.
2:00:34
SPEAKER_01: And right now, there's no incentive to it.
2:00:38
SPEAKER_00: It'll keep spiraling to where it's just like we're going to be sitting
2:00:41
SPEAKER_00: at home doing what you and I and Neely are doing,
2:00:44
SPEAKER_00: watching live shows on a pay-per-view channel like a boxing match.
2:00:49
SPEAKER_00: If we couldn't afford to fly to Vegas and stay in the casino
2:00:53
SPEAKER_00: and see Tyson punch somebody in the face in 30 seconds,
2:00:59
SPEAKER_00: that kills me because in my day, let's say 77.
2:01:06
SPEAKER_00: Nugent, Aerosmith, Hart, and Cheap Trick.
2:01:10
SPEAKER_00: On the same bill, five bucks.
2:01:13
SPEAKER_00: General admission, the electric gate goes up and it's a herd of buffalo running to the front.
2:01:21
SPEAKER_00: That was a concert.
2:01:23
SPEAKER_00: And then the day before,
2:01:24
SPEAKER_00: we're camped out in the grass,
2:01:26
SPEAKER_00: smoking weed,
2:01:27
SPEAKER_00: drinking wine, Boone's Farm, just cranking Nugent songs back in the saddle.
2:01:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was like, mom, You got to drop me out the day before because everybody's meeting.
2:01:40
SPEAKER_00: She's like, are you out of your freaking mind?
2:01:42
SPEAKER_00: That's downtown so-and-so.
2:01:44
SPEAKER_00: It's dangerous, but I'll be with like 50 of my friends.
2:01:48
SPEAKER_00: You know,
2:01:48
SPEAKER_00: now it sounds like it's kind of tailored to the corporate entities that have
2:01:55
SPEAKER_00: the big tech companies and stuff.
2:01:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you got like 10 people that work for, let's say, Apple.
2:02:04
SPEAKER_00: They're going to get the $3,000 tickets.
2:02:07
SPEAKER_00: Here's your comp for working and doing such a good job,
2:02:10
SPEAKER_00: not Chris and Neely being able to go to see Aerosmith and friends for $3,000.
2:02:17
SPEAKER_00: What are they doing?
2:02:18
SPEAKER_00: They're tailoring it to that market, right?
2:02:23
SPEAKER_00: Fuck the fan, right?
2:02:26
SPEAKER_00: But then you said, we got to stand up and push back on this.
2:02:30
SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
2:02:32
SPEAKER_00: If we push back, And all those venues go out of business because nobody's gone.
2:02:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true too.
2:02:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't know where it ends.
2:02:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's going to end with, I know where it ends.
2:02:46
SPEAKER_01: It's inching toward where it's going to end.
2:02:49
SPEAKER_01: Because now,
2:02:50
SPEAKER_01: here in the States,
2:02:51
SPEAKER_01: and you tell me if it's the same over there,
2:02:54
SPEAKER_01: we have that new term,
2:02:55
SPEAKER_01: Blue Dot Fever, because nobody is buying advanced tickets anymore.
2:02:59
SPEAKER_01: Everybody waits to see who's going to unload them.
2:03:03
SPEAKER_01: Because they bought them for such an exorbitant amount of money.
2:03:06
SPEAKER_01: And they don't go or they can't go or whatever.
2:03:09
SPEAKER_01: And then day of show or even ahead of time, they're offering three for one or four for one.
2:03:15
SPEAKER_01: Which is still pricey, but it's still $2.50 for a ticket is better than a grand.
2:03:21
SPEAKER_00: A lot of that I can blame on the bands too.
2:03:27
SPEAKER_00: They book tours.
2:03:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:03:31
SPEAKER_00: Then they go, Oh, yeah, we're going to do this 14 day run in Europe, right?
2:03:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:03:37
SPEAKER_00: And they don't do the research about visa costs and the flights and all this stuff.
2:03:45
SPEAKER_00: And then like,
2:03:46
SPEAKER_00: the fans will say, Well,
2:03:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to buy a ticket till I know they're,
2:03:49
SPEAKER_00: they're going to be in the venue that night, right?
2:03:51
SPEAKER_00: Because I've been fucked by purchasing presale so many times, I'm just going to wait.
2:03:59
SPEAKER_00: And
2:04:02
SPEAKER_00: I always talk to promoters and they're like, well, pre-sales are 300.
2:04:06
SPEAKER_00: We're getting scared.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_00: We might pull the show.
2:04:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, the place holds 500 people.
2:04:12
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:04:14
SPEAKER_00: I said, what about WACA?
2:04:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, we might do 150.
2:04:16
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:04:17
SPEAKER_00: Your capacity, right?
2:04:19
SPEAKER_00: Close.
2:04:19
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
2:04:20
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:04:22
SPEAKER_00: Most of my friends aren't going to whip out the credit card and buy
2:04:24
SPEAKER_00: a ticket 18 months in advance for a show.
2:04:28
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:04:30
SPEAKER_01: I mean, who knows that we're even going to be here in 18 months.
2:04:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Brian Adams, my son, you know, I mean, I love Brian Adams' music.
2:04:41
SPEAKER_00: I love all kinds of stuff.
2:04:42
SPEAKER_00: But he asked me, hey, man, I can get tickets right now.
2:04:46
SPEAKER_00: They're pretty good.
2:04:47
SPEAKER_00: And before they get, you know, into the stratosphere with Bryce, should we go?
2:04:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm home that day.
2:04:53
SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
2:04:55
SPEAKER_00: I think we spent like between four of us.
2:04:57
SPEAKER_00: It was like 800 bucks.
2:05:00
SPEAKER_00: And then you've got to drive, you've got to have something to eat.
2:05:04
SPEAKER_00: So it's a $1,000 day.
2:05:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:05:07
SPEAKER_00: But when's the next time I'm going to see Bryan Adams in my lifetime?
2:05:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you get to.
2:05:13
SPEAKER_01: You're right,
2:05:14
SPEAKER_01: and it is that double-edged sword of you almost are like, well,
2:05:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to accept getting fucked over on this deal because if I don't,
2:05:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to be watching the Robin Hood video instead
2:05:26
SPEAKER_01: of actually experiencing it one more time.
2:05:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:05:31
SPEAKER_00: Or the AI guy that you're talking about of each image of each guy
2:05:37
SPEAKER_00: that was our hero performing to a backing track.
2:05:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:05:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, is that where it's going?
2:05:45
SPEAKER_00: Are we going to go to shows where there's like holograms of,
2:05:48
SPEAKER_00: you know, they tried it with Dio and that blew up in their face.
2:05:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:05:53
SPEAKER_00: Let's make money.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_00: He's dead.
2:05:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's put a Dio hologram up there on a screen and play background music with a band.
2:06:00
SPEAKER_00: No thanks.
2:06:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, we're going to find out about that next year when KISS launches their KISS.
2:06:07
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, ABBA's been doing it.
2:06:09
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, from what I understand, that has done very well so far.
2:06:14
SPEAKER_01: So we might be.
2:06:16
SPEAKER_01: I've said this for years.
2:06:17
SPEAKER_01: I think that's where we're going to end up at,
2:06:20
SPEAKER_01: where it's all going to be holograms of these old bands.
2:06:22
SPEAKER_01: There's not going to be any new bands.
2:06:25
SPEAKER_01: And So like, if you're a KISS fan, I don't think you're going to go to a show though.
2:06:29
SPEAKER_01: I think you're going to buy it for 50 bucks and watch it on your TV.
2:06:34
SPEAKER_01: And you're going to say, you know what?
2:06:35
SPEAKER_01: I want to watch the KISS dynasty tour, or I want to watch the KISS hot in the shade tour.
2:06:41
SPEAKER_01: And they're going to give you a hologram video of KISS doing that.
2:06:49
SPEAKER_00: I want to be,
2:06:50
SPEAKER_00: I want to see,
2:06:51
SPEAKER_00: you know,
2:06:51
SPEAKER_00: Paul Stanley, which,
2:06:52
SPEAKER_00: you know,
2:06:52
SPEAKER_00: it's not going to happen with his age and everything he's done,
2:06:55
SPEAKER_00: you know, with his fire hat on.
2:06:57
SPEAKER_00: It's a fire out.
2:06:58
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:06:59
SPEAKER_00: And sparks flying off and bombs going off in my face.
2:07:02
SPEAKER_00: And just the experience of, you know, getting blood spit on me by Simmons.
2:07:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was what I remember.
2:07:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to get that off a freaking screen.
2:07:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, Tyler, five feet from me, spitting on me, screaming back in the saddle.
2:07:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was...
2:07:19
SPEAKER_02: Rock and roll.
2:07:20
SPEAKER_02: You know,
2:07:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean,
2:07:20
SPEAKER_00: I saw the Stones once and it could have been Mac Davis up there as far away
2:07:24
SPEAKER_00: as I was,
2:07:24
SPEAKER_00: you know, Jagger, dunking and diving like they're throwing shit out of mine.
2:07:28
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't even see his face.
2:07:29
SPEAKER_00: But hey, I'm at a stone show, you know.
2:07:33
SPEAKER_00: The thing you said earlier, though,
2:07:34
SPEAKER_00: but in this conversation with the sad is there are a lot of great young bands.
2:07:40
SPEAKER_00: There are never going to have that chance unless something happens.
2:07:45
SPEAKER_00: And what is what is that something?
2:07:48
SPEAKER_01: We don't know.
2:07:49
SPEAKER_01: We've always said that, you know, there's the there's no one promoting it.
2:07:53
SPEAKER_01: There's no MTV.
2:07:54
SPEAKER_01: There's really no music station like here.
2:07:57
SPEAKER_01: There's not a you know, there's not very many active rock stations anymore.
2:08:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's all gone,
2:08:02
SPEAKER_01: you know,
2:08:03
SPEAKER_01: because and it's gone because a radio station makes more money playing
2:08:09
SPEAKER_01: the same 20 classic rock Pink Floyd, Van Halen, Rush, you know, songs.
2:08:16
SPEAKER_01: Versus trying to break a new band and failing.
2:08:20
SPEAKER_01: And that's really what it is with radio,
2:08:22
SPEAKER_01: is radio,
2:08:24
SPEAKER_01: they can play Ain't Talking About Love four times a day,
2:08:29
SPEAKER_01: and no one is going to change their station.
2:08:32
SPEAKER_01: But if they bring you, I don't know, rival sons, and it's not known yet...
2:08:38
SPEAKER_01: People will leave because they've been trained for the last 10,
2:08:42
SPEAKER_01: 15 years to only like stuff that's old.
2:08:46
SPEAKER_01: So new stuff gets, it doesn't get the traction with the radio stations.
2:08:52
SPEAKER_01: So they drop it and the cycle continues.
2:08:55
SPEAKER_01: And we just miss on great band after great band after great band that have
2:09:00
SPEAKER_00: come up.
2:09:01
SPEAKER_00: It's Nike advertising too.
2:09:03
SPEAKER_00: You can blame it on KFC and all those places.
2:09:07
SPEAKER_00: They're not going to promote a radio station unless that's in the loop
2:09:11
SPEAKER_00: the four times a day of Ain't Talking About Love because they're selling,
2:09:14
SPEAKER_00: you know, Happy Meals and the newest edition of the iPhone.
2:09:19
SPEAKER_00: They're going to put that money.
2:09:20
SPEAKER_00: That's where a radio station survives is advertising.
2:09:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:09:25
SPEAKER_00: What the key times,
2:09:27
SPEAKER_00: drive time, you know, prime time, you know, morning, going to work in your car.
2:09:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:09:32
SPEAKER_00: Lunch and driving home and then 10 p.m.
2:09:35
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:09:36
SPEAKER_00: So what.
2:09:36
SPEAKER_00: Market,
2:09:37
SPEAKER_00: target market of guys purchasing off Amazon or actually listening to the radio,
2:09:42
SPEAKER_00: other ones whipping out their credit card, ordering those products.
2:09:46
SPEAKER_00: We go back to the drive-thru thing, right?
2:09:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:09:49
SPEAKER_00: It's all about product.
2:09:51
SPEAKER_00: There's no validity.
2:09:56
SPEAKER_00: Human nature seems to have gone, I think the internet has fucked everything up, to be honest.
2:10:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're on it right now,
2:10:06
SPEAKER_00: but And this is a valuable tool that we're talking about,
2:10:10
SPEAKER_00: but how many times have you had this conversation, guys?
2:10:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:10:15
SPEAKER_00: What is the general consensus and the answer that you have?
2:10:21
SPEAKER_01: I say it all the time.
2:10:22
SPEAKER_01: Neely, I think, agrees with me, but I'll say it.
2:10:25
SPEAKER_01: I just think it's done.
2:10:26
SPEAKER_01: I think it's over.
2:10:27
SPEAKER_01: I think entertainment as a whole...
2:10:33
SPEAKER_01: Movies, TV, concerts, music.
2:10:38
SPEAKER_01: It's all been compromised by corporate.
2:10:43
SPEAKER_01: There's no rock and roll spirit anymore, even the new bands.
2:10:46
SPEAKER_01: And I know we're saying that there's a lot of good bands, and I can name 10 of them easily.
2:10:51
SPEAKER_01: But even those bands, they're compromised by money.
2:10:54
SPEAKER_01: They're playing to get streams.
2:10:56
SPEAKER_01: They're playing to get...
2:10:59
SPEAKER_01: You know, a 10-second hitter on a TikTok video that's viral.
2:11:04
SPEAKER_01: They're not playing because they want to go out on the road in a van and fuck chicks
2:11:10
SPEAKER_01: in every different city and party and do coke and have fun.
2:11:16
SPEAKER_01: Not that I'm saying that all those equate to fun, but I'm saying that that's what it was.
2:11:21
SPEAKER_01: It was fun.
2:11:22
SPEAKER_00: It was fucking fun.
2:11:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:11:25
SPEAKER_00: That devil's fucking right on your fucking shoulder chasing you down the street.
2:11:29
SPEAKER_00: You crash and burn, but goddammit, I had a good time.
2:11:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
2:11:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, those days are fucking...
2:11:37
SPEAKER_03: They're done.
2:11:38
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2:12:22
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2:12:26
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2:12:29
SPEAKER_00: It's not cool.
2:12:31
SPEAKER_00: You did cocaine backstage.
2:12:33
SPEAKER_00: You got drunk before a gig.
2:12:35
SPEAKER_00: Fuck yeah, I did.
2:12:36
SPEAKER_00: It's fucking great.
2:12:37
SPEAKER_00: I fucked two girls at the same time.
2:12:38
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
2:12:40
SPEAKER_00: Everybody was crazy.
2:12:41
SPEAKER_00: It was 1982.
2:12:41
SPEAKER_00: Now it's like...
2:12:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I got to get in my cardio.
2:12:46
SPEAKER_00: I've got to get in this.
2:12:47
SPEAKER_00: And, oh, this promoter doesn't allow that.
2:12:50
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, what?
2:12:52
SPEAKER_00: Don't say this politically or we're not going to book you.
2:12:54
SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, oh, what's his name from Pink Floyd?
2:12:59
SPEAKER_00: Is that war with James Hetfield?
2:13:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
2:13:02
SPEAKER_00: It's a fuck.
2:13:03
SPEAKER_00: It's a fuck, man.
2:13:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's, I don't know.
2:13:11
SPEAKER_00: Rival Sons, got it.
2:13:12
SPEAKER_00: Amazing band, Dirty Honey.
2:13:15
SPEAKER_00: There's some bands out there that I'm like, why aren't these guys?
2:13:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Rival Sons were playing a couple of years ago over here doing rock on ring.
2:13:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, 150,000 people walking.
2:13:27
SPEAKER_00: Now they're playing like 3,000 seaters.
2:13:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:13:29
SPEAKER_01: Greta Van Fleet.
2:13:31
SPEAKER_01: Greta Van Fleet was like enormous for about a month.
2:13:37
SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden now they're, they're forgotten.
2:13:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:13:40
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, it hasn't been that long.
2:13:41
SPEAKER_00: A month is like three years.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_00: That's how fast things go by you.
2:13:44
SPEAKER_00: It's a three-year run at the top of the game.
2:13:47
SPEAKER_00: And then it's really a month.
2:13:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:13:50
SPEAKER_00: And then it's over.
2:13:52
SPEAKER_00: And now you look at them and you kind of go, what happened to those guys?
2:13:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, that bad.
2:13:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:14:00
SPEAKER_01: You're waiting for them to come up on the classic rock station.
2:14:04
SPEAKER_00: I'll be dead.
2:14:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure.
2:14:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I'll live that long.
2:14:13
SPEAKER_00: I have this conversation all the time, and it's guys like us, the three of us.
2:14:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to pay $3,000 to go see Aerosmith or $7,000.
2:14:26
SPEAKER_00: I forgot the other band.
2:14:27
SPEAKER_00: Metallica.
2:14:30
SPEAKER_00: You know what's weird about Metallica?
2:14:31
SPEAKER_00: They just went through here last year with Pantera.
2:14:35
SPEAKER_00: Dude, there's 80,000 people.
2:14:38
SPEAKER_00: And the audience is like four generations.
2:14:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you got great grandkids, you got grandkids, dad, pops.
2:14:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's insane.
2:14:49
SPEAKER_00: That's a legacy act, dude.
2:14:51
SPEAKER_00: Iron Maiden?
2:14:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:14:53
SPEAKER_00: I talked to a guy yesterday.
2:14:55
SPEAKER_00: He has a friend who has seen Iron Maiden over 200 times.
2:14:58
SPEAKER_00: They live to travel to see Iron Maiden.
2:15:03
SPEAKER_00: That's nuts.
2:15:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:15:06
SPEAKER_00: They used to do it.
2:15:07
SPEAKER_00: They did it in the 60s and 70s, though.
2:15:09
SPEAKER_00: There were people that lived.
2:15:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, look at the Grateful Dead thing.
2:15:11
SPEAKER_00: That was weird.
2:15:13
SPEAKER_00: People lived to go follow the dead, but did they make records?
2:15:17
SPEAKER_00: Maybe one hit record in their life, but everybody was allowed to record their show.
2:15:22
SPEAKER_00: It was a whole thing, you know?
2:15:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:15:24
SPEAKER_01: That was more of a community thing than it was about the music,
2:15:27
SPEAKER_01: because they never made good music.
2:15:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly.
2:15:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the same thing with us, though, right?
2:15:34
SPEAKER_00: The 80s.
2:15:34
SPEAKER_00: It was a community.
2:15:35
SPEAKER_01: Yes, true.
2:15:37
SPEAKER_01: It's true.
2:15:37
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it depends on your opinion of communal.
2:15:45
SPEAKER_01: Well, the difference back then, too, was,
2:15:47
SPEAKER_01: and I'm speaking only for me,
2:15:49
SPEAKER_01: but I don't know if you were the same way or not, Neely, or you, David.
2:15:54
SPEAKER_01: I would go to shows...
2:15:56
SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know even who the bands were.
2:15:58
SPEAKER_01: I had no idea.
2:15:59
SPEAKER_01: I didn't care.
2:16:00
SPEAKER_01: I would go, you know, like I was living, especially when I lived in California.
2:16:04
SPEAKER_01: I lived in California from 88 to 91, I think it was.
2:16:09
SPEAKER_01: And I was in Central.
2:16:10
SPEAKER_01: So it was about an hour drive to go to San Francisco and go to like the Omni or the Stone.
2:16:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you've been to both.
2:16:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:16:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, I was far enough away back then that I didn't even know who was playing.
2:16:22
SPEAKER_01: But I'll be damned if I wasn't getting in my car Friday afternoon and just going up.
2:16:26
SPEAKER_01: And I'm picking one.
2:16:28
SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, I'm going to go to the Stone tonight.
2:16:30
SPEAKER_01: And I'd get to the Stone.
2:16:31
SPEAKER_01: And some nights it would be, you know, it would be Faith No More.
2:16:36
SPEAKER_01: And on another night it might be,
2:16:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't know,
2:16:39
SPEAKER_01: the Atomic Cowboys from Hell or some band that nobody's ever heard of ever.
2:16:44
SPEAKER_01: But it didn't matter.
2:16:45
SPEAKER_01: It just didn't matter.
2:16:47
SPEAKER_01: It was about...
2:16:48
SPEAKER_01: Going and you would meet people and you'd make friends and you'd drink
2:16:53
SPEAKER_01: and you'd party and it was a different environment.
2:16:57
SPEAKER_01: When you got to think about $500,
2:16:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't care if you make $10,000 a week,
2:17:01
SPEAKER_01: $500 is a good enough bite where you at least have to contemplate it before you go.
2:17:06
SPEAKER_01: So you can't have passion anymore.
2:17:18
SPEAKER_01: Until you've at least sorted money out in your mind.
2:17:22
SPEAKER_01: And it's ruined it.
2:17:23
SPEAKER_01: It's absolutely ruined it.
2:17:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's funny.
2:17:27
SPEAKER_00: I just pictured a family like, you know, you're talking about who do we blame?
2:17:31
SPEAKER_00: Imagine like Chris Akin and Neely and Reese sitting around the table.
2:17:35
SPEAKER_00: What do we say?
2:17:36
SPEAKER_00: Fuck those guys, that band.
2:17:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm not paying that.
2:17:39
SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
2:17:41
SPEAKER_00: Is it really the band's fault?
2:17:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're guaranteed...
2:17:47
SPEAKER_00: Every band has got their fee.
2:17:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
2:17:51
SPEAKER_00: It's the other fucking lunatics that are surrounding it,
2:17:54
SPEAKER_00: you know, that are adding those extras on it.
2:17:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, the band's got a production cost.
2:18:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, we got 20 guys working for us.
2:18:02
SPEAKER_00: This cost us this much.
2:18:04
SPEAKER_00: The band wants this much.
2:18:05
SPEAKER_00: That's what the promoters are faced with.
2:18:08
SPEAKER_00: I get that.
2:18:10
SPEAKER_01: I get that.
2:18:10
SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to take the other side here for a second.
2:18:15
SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to blame the band somewhat.
2:18:17
SPEAKER_01: Because a band like Metallica could clearly say if they want to,
2:18:22
SPEAKER_01: we're not going to charge our fans this much money.
2:18:24
SPEAKER_01: Garth Brooks just announced a tour here in the States.
2:18:28
SPEAKER_01: And in country, he's as big, if not bigger, than even Metallica would be to metal.
2:18:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's the guy.
2:18:35
SPEAKER_01: And his tour was announced.
2:18:38
SPEAKER_01: Tickets, no matter where you sit, first row, last row, $155.
2:18:43
SPEAKER_01: There's no nothing else.
2:18:45
SPEAKER_01: There's one price.
2:18:47
SPEAKER_01: It's reasonable.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_01: I still think that's a little high,
2:18:50
SPEAKER_01: but he does put on a good big show where there is production cost and all that.
2:18:55
SPEAKER_01: But $150 is reasonable for the greatest artist in the history of
2:19:01
SPEAKER_01: that genre versus $7,000 for the greatest artist in the history of the metal genre.
2:19:08
SPEAKER_01: The bands can
2:19:09
SPEAKER_00: control it.
2:19:11
SPEAKER_00: Let's hope that Garth and people like that force this exuberant feat to go...
2:19:18
SPEAKER_00: Back to reality.
2:19:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm not making any more money than I made two or three years ago.
2:19:28
SPEAKER_00: Matter of fact, I'm making less money to coordinate shows.
2:19:38
SPEAKER_00: Let's hope that guys like Garth Brooke who can disappear for 20 years in Mustang,
2:19:42
SPEAKER_00: Oklahoma, because I'm originally from Oklahoma.
2:19:44
SPEAKER_00: I know where he lives.
2:19:45
SPEAKER_00: My aunt lives down the road from him.
2:19:47
SPEAKER_00: He can take 20 years off and they go, hey, remember me?
2:19:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm the guy that brought country to the forefront.
2:19:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm the reason all these other guys are happening, the Taylor Swifts and all these people.
2:19:59
SPEAKER_00: It's me.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_00: And it's $155.
2:20:03
SPEAKER_00: Come rock and roll with me and I'll play every hit and a bunch of covers, George Jones songs.
2:20:09
SPEAKER_00: I won't have a good old time.
2:20:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, $155 is cheaper than you're paying for Bryan Adams.
2:20:15
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not trying to say,
2:20:16
SPEAKER_01: all I'm trying to say is that Garth Brooks is significantly bigger than Bryan Adams.
2:20:22
SPEAKER_00: Worldwide, globally?
2:20:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd say so.
2:20:25
SPEAKER_00: Even over here, Garth Brooks is, you know, it's weird.
2:20:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I saw Blackberry Smoke over here in Italy early last summer.
2:20:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm a big fan.
2:20:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:20:38
SPEAKER_00: Hardworking band.
2:20:41
SPEAKER_00: To see, it's a 3000 seater,
2:20:43
SPEAKER_00: to see a thousand tickets sold and to see a thousand Italians singing the lyrics
2:20:49
SPEAKER_00: in English and then singing happy birthday in Italian and English to
2:20:53
SPEAKER_00: the singer was great.
2:20:55
SPEAKER_00: And it was like 30 bucks to see the band, you know?
2:21:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're trying to crack the market, right?
2:21:04
SPEAKER_00: But it was an experience.
2:21:06
SPEAKER_00: It kind of, it gave me like a seventies Tom Petty vibe kind of audience.
2:21:12
SPEAKER_00: It's about the songs.
2:21:14
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't the big flash, boom, bang, Rammstein show with 30 semis out front.
2:21:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it looks cool and everything.
2:21:23
SPEAKER_00: It looks like a military operation, but that trickles down to the crowd, right?
2:21:29
SPEAKER_00: You can strip down a club.
2:21:31
SPEAKER_00: You can strip down shows.
2:21:33
SPEAKER_00: They did it before in these giant auditoriums.
2:21:35
SPEAKER_00: You had a backline.
2:21:37
SPEAKER_00: You don't need 5 million LED screens and You know,
2:21:40
SPEAKER_00: people going out on cranes out over the audience doing upside-down drum solos,
2:21:45
SPEAKER_00: right?
2:21:45
SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
2:21:48
SPEAKER_00: Right?
2:21:48
SPEAKER_00: Is that rock and roll?
2:21:49
SPEAKER_00: No, that's a fucking circus.
2:21:51
SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
2:21:52
SPEAKER_00: Circus Soleil.
2:21:53
SPEAKER_00: That's a fucking rock and roll.
2:21:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, kids were the ones that kind of kicked that off, but that was their thing.
2:22:03
SPEAKER_00: Now it's, what's it cost to park your car at one of those festivals?
2:22:08
SPEAKER_00: 50 bucks.
2:22:09
SPEAKER_00: 100 bucks.
2:22:10
SPEAKER_01: 50 to 100, yeah, depends on where it is.
2:22:13
SPEAKER_00: I played Grass Pop last year.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_00: It's 50,000 people.
2:22:18
SPEAKER_00: It was like 20 bands a day.
2:22:21
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:22:22
SPEAKER_00: Wolfie, Steel Panther, everybody was there.
2:22:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:22:27
SPEAKER_00: Even Limp Bizkit.
2:22:28
SPEAKER_00: It was like this crazy mix of bands.
2:22:32
SPEAKER_00: And amazing with those festivals.
2:22:35
SPEAKER_00: I think the ticket price per day was 55 bucks.
2:22:37
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
2:22:38
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
2:22:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, played 45 minutes, 40,000, 50,000 people.
2:22:45
SPEAKER_00: And the funny thing is they have a stage 100 yards away or further,
2:22:50
SPEAKER_00: and the crowd turns their back and looks at you.
2:22:52
SPEAKER_00: And then when you're done, they turn around, look at that stage, right?
2:22:55
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:22:57
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
2:22:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:22:58
SPEAKER_00: But backstage,
2:22:59
SPEAKER_00: it's like the circus of everybody you've known
2:23:03
SPEAKER_00: for 50 years is there wandering around.
2:23:06
SPEAKER_00: I ran into Ken Murray.
2:23:07
SPEAKER_00: He's like, Where's the stage?
2:23:09
SPEAKER_00: I go, fuck, I don't know.
2:23:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Steel Panther run around going, where the fuck are we playing?
2:23:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was great, but it was cheap.
2:23:17
SPEAKER_00: You know, cars,
2:23:19
SPEAKER_00: people were like,
2:23:20
SPEAKER_00: in the city that it's in, the people rent out their driveway, right?
2:23:25
SPEAKER_00: So they'll park your car for like 10 bucks and you walk half a mile to the festival.
2:23:29
SPEAKER_00: It's a thing, you know, people camp out in the mud and the rain, like walking.
2:23:36
SPEAKER_00: That's another thing.
2:23:37
SPEAKER_00: Like you're talking about prices.
2:23:38
SPEAKER_00: Like a couple of years ago, Wacken was sold out three years in advance.
2:23:42
SPEAKER_00: Nobody knew it was planned.
2:23:43
SPEAKER_00: Like you said, going to the Omni.
2:23:45
SPEAKER_00: But now I played last July in North Germany and the promoter was telling me that
2:23:53
SPEAKER_00: a lot of the crowd that was there,
2:23:54
SPEAKER_00: it was like 4,000 people,
2:23:56
SPEAKER_00: were heading the next weekend to Wacken and they had just sold out.
2:24:01
SPEAKER_00: That week.
2:24:02
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:24:02
SPEAKER_00: And he goes, man, it's a sign of the times.
2:24:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:24:05
SPEAKER_00: The economy.
2:24:06
SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, three years in advance, you don't even know who's playing those four days.
2:24:11
SPEAKER_00: That's an event.
2:24:12
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:24:13
SPEAKER_00: It's a pilgrimage, man.
2:24:14
SPEAKER_00: We're going to Valken.
2:24:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:24:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:24:18
SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
2:24:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like going to Cheyenne, you know, for the NFR.
2:24:23
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
2:24:25
SPEAKER_00: For rock and roll, that's the place to go, you know.
2:24:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:24:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
2:24:30
SPEAKER_00: Forgive me.
2:24:32
SPEAKER_00: You need more coffee, man.
2:24:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, it's espresso, man.
2:24:37
SPEAKER_00: It's like doing blow, liquid blow.
2:24:39
SPEAKER_00: All right.
2:24:44
SPEAKER_00: From California, you know exactly what I mean.
2:24:47
SPEAKER_01: I've done my share of blow, that's for sure.
2:24:52
SPEAKER_00: Who hasn't?
2:24:52
SPEAKER_00: I'd be terrified to do a line of cocaine now,
2:24:54
SPEAKER_00: not just because of my age,
2:24:56
SPEAKER_00: but They got a grain of fentanyl in it and I dropped fucking dead because I did
2:25:01
SPEAKER_00: a line of blow casually with a bunch of friends.
2:25:03
SPEAKER_00: Hey, Reese kicked off because he did a line of coke in the 80s.
2:25:08
SPEAKER_00: If it wasn't 50 lines, it wasn't a coke party, right?
2:25:11
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:25:13
SPEAKER_00: Let's go back and get more.
2:25:15
SPEAKER_00: It's four o'clock in the morning on Sunday.
2:25:18
SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
2:25:19
SPEAKER_01: We used to do the thing where it was like you'd lay a line of Coke down
2:25:23
SPEAKER_01: a coffee table and do those sprinters.
2:25:25
SPEAKER_01: Who can get the furthest?
2:25:27
SPEAKER_01: It was like a sprint.
2:25:28
SPEAKER_01: You're like...
2:25:30
SPEAKER_01: All the way down across the table trying, oh, you got three feet.
2:25:35
SPEAKER_01: Three feet's the number to beat.
2:25:37
SPEAKER_00: You got half of Van Halen.
2:25:38
SPEAKER_00: You got to the H. Oh, it's written out Van Halen with the logo.
2:25:42
SPEAKER_00: You got to H. Oh, I went to the L. Oh, yeah.
2:25:49
SPEAKER_00: I remember.
2:25:50
SPEAKER_02: It's been good.
2:25:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, David,
2:25:54
SPEAKER_02: we started this interview off with the fact that you have a new record coming out
2:25:59
SPEAKER_02: in November.
2:26:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
2:26:01
SPEAKER_00: I forgot about that.
2:26:05
SPEAKER_02: The payload release is coming out.
2:26:08
SPEAKER_02: And what can you tell the fans about that?
2:26:15
SPEAKER_00: Man, give me a couple minutes if you got it.
2:26:18
SPEAKER_00: I was in France like three years ago.
2:26:21
SPEAKER_00: And playing David Reese's solo.
2:26:24
SPEAKER_00: And I've been there a couple of times and I'm like, I'm not increasing my audience, right?
2:26:30
SPEAKER_00: But when I play Bangalore choir songs,
2:26:32
SPEAKER_00: everybody's singing, Slipping Away, Just One Night, Good Die Young.
2:26:36
SPEAKER_00: They're singing along with me and then playing some of the Eat the Eat stuff.
2:26:40
SPEAKER_00: I get in the van and I'm coming back to Italy and I'm like, I got to rebrand myself.
2:26:47
SPEAKER_00: So I called and set up The resurgence of Bangalore Choir, but I had to really go back.
2:26:52
SPEAKER_00: I think, Chris, maybe we talked about this before.
2:26:55
SPEAKER_00: I sat here and I studied on Target going,
2:26:58
SPEAKER_00: the fuck am I going to go back 30 years and get in that headspace
2:27:02
SPEAKER_00: and write songs like that?
2:27:05
SPEAKER_00: If I do Bangalore Choir, the brand, we're talking about promoters now, right?
2:27:11
SPEAKER_00: You go for David Reese live, but you say Bangalore Choir.
2:27:16
SPEAKER_00: Automatically, promoters go, I'll book that.
2:27:19
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be one original member of the band.
2:27:22
SPEAKER_00: How many times have we seen that the last 10 years?
2:27:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, we had a long discussion about that last week on the show.
2:27:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_00: So I decided to go back and delve into 1989 somehow and try to recreate the artwork,
2:27:40
SPEAKER_00: the sound, the songs, and I did it.
2:27:44
SPEAKER_00: I was number one all over the frickin place with the last record last year.
2:27:48
SPEAKER_00: I somehow it worked.
2:27:54
SPEAKER_00: This record follows the same the same thing.
2:27:59
SPEAKER_00: It's Bangalore choir.
2:28:01
SPEAKER_00: It's you know, but I I'm not stuck.
2:28:04
SPEAKER_00: I like to create people around me that inspire me and Tommy and Steve.
2:28:13
SPEAKER_00: Collaboration with that stuff.
2:28:15
SPEAKER_00: The songs are our Bangalore choir.
2:28:19
SPEAKER_00: We were a little sugary, but we were rock and roll too.
2:28:24
SPEAKER_00: You got to keep that.
2:28:25
SPEAKER_00: If you're going to be called Bangalore choir, you can't be doing something about Satan.
2:28:31
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
2:28:34
SPEAKER_00: It's Whitesnake-ish.
2:28:35
SPEAKER_00: It's melodic.
2:28:38
SPEAKER_00: It's bangle or choir music.
2:28:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Loaded Gun was our first video on OnTarget, right?
2:28:44
SPEAKER_00: I hated that song.
2:28:46
SPEAKER_00: I hated it.
2:28:47
SPEAKER_00: And the record company looked at me and goes, well, you're a fool.
2:28:50
SPEAKER_00: If you want to play the game, you need a hit song, and this is a hit song.
2:28:53
SPEAKER_00: Went to radio, 144 stations, first day.
2:28:57
SPEAKER_00: Guy congratulated.
2:28:58
SPEAKER_00: Got a hit song, kid.
2:29:00
SPEAKER_00: I didn't write it, but I was wrong.
2:29:04
SPEAKER_00: Now I'm playing that song the rest of my life, which is cool.
2:29:08
SPEAKER_00: But you got to think that way if you're going to call it Bangalore Choir.
2:29:11
SPEAKER_00: So Payload is another arm,
2:29:16
SPEAKER_00: another tentacle of last year's Rapid Fire Succession on Target Part II.
2:29:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm very proud of it.
2:29:23
SPEAKER_00: I got a great band working with Tommy and Steve.
2:29:29
SPEAKER_00: I can't say enough about those guys.
2:29:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Tommy lives like five minutes from Desmond Child.
2:29:35
SPEAKER_00: He spent five years, five days a week learning the craft of songwriting.
2:29:40
SPEAKER_00: He's a great drummer.
2:29:42
SPEAKER_00: I thought, cool.
2:29:43
SPEAKER_00: And then Steve, I mean, they played with everybody from Estefan to Rod Stewart.
2:29:50
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, that should tell you something.
2:29:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:29:54
SPEAKER_00: Did I answer your question?
2:29:55
SPEAKER_00: Or am I in another place again?
2:29:57
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
2:29:59
SPEAKER_02: I just wanted a little backstory on this new release and what the fans could expect from it.
2:30:04
SPEAKER_02: November 6th?
2:30:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:30:06
SPEAKER_00: And we kick off the 24th in Holland with Vengeance Picture and Seven Minutes to Pittsburgh.
2:30:16
SPEAKER_00: The market in Holland for Bangalore Choir is pretty strong.
2:30:19
SPEAKER_00: Looks like really strong ticket sales.
2:30:21
SPEAKER_00: Then I do November 6th and 7th.
2:30:23
SPEAKER_00: Acoustic shows with my good friend Mario Percadani, who played with Hardline.
2:30:28
SPEAKER_00: He's playing acoustic guitar and my bass player Gorka is playing acoustic guitar with me.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_00: We're rehearsing that.
2:30:34
SPEAKER_00: And then I have a few shows confirmed.
2:30:41
SPEAKER_00: I started Spain in January.
2:30:46
SPEAKER_00: Weekend gigs and then It trickles like January,
2:30:50
SPEAKER_00: and then you go to March, then you go to May, then you go to June.
2:30:53
SPEAKER_00: And then the festival season,
2:30:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of in contention on those matinee slots, like 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock.
2:30:59
SPEAKER_00: Not 8 o'clock, we're all the big ones.
2:31:03
SPEAKER_00: That's the plan.
2:31:05
SPEAKER_00: How long I will continue to do this?
2:31:07
SPEAKER_00: Your guess is as good as mine.
2:31:10
SPEAKER_01: You're dying on stage, man.
2:31:12
SPEAKER_01: You're dying on stage.
2:31:13
SPEAKER_01: Who are you fooling?
2:31:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought I was going to die this morning at 2.30 when I woke up and said,
2:31:19
SPEAKER_00: oh God, I got to do this podcast and I'm stumbling around the house.
2:31:23
SPEAKER_00: I haven't had a drink in 10 years, but it's like I felt hungover.
2:31:26
SPEAKER_00: It's like, fuck, I'm dying on stage.
2:31:29
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
2:31:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, let me put this to you because I don't want to get blamed for this.
2:31:33
SPEAKER_01: You're the one that said you would do this.
2:31:36
SPEAKER_01: I did not push you to do this.
2:31:40
SPEAKER_00: Hey, man, I'm happy to do this.
2:31:43
SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
2:31:44
SPEAKER_00: I've got a record to promote in this.
2:31:45
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
2:31:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, people got to know about it.
2:31:48
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
2:31:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, and that's one good thing about this platform.
2:31:54
SPEAKER_00: Who's ever up right now on the East Coast, Eastern Time watching this?
2:31:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:31:59
SPEAKER_00: Hey, man, now you know.
2:32:02
SPEAKER_02: We got a loyal audience.
2:32:04
SPEAKER_02: People are in the chat room an hour before the show starts,
2:32:07
SPEAKER_02: and they're in the chat room an hour after the show ends,
2:32:11
SPEAKER_02: and this show runs six hours.
2:32:14
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
2:32:15
SPEAKER_02: It is.
2:32:16
SPEAKER_02: They love the show.
2:32:17
SPEAKER_02: They hang out.
2:32:17
SPEAKER_02: It's a community.
2:32:19
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
2:32:20
SPEAKER_00: We go back to the community and the tribe.
2:32:23
SPEAKER_00: They're not doing the 18-inch blow lines that you talked about, Chris, on the lead glass table.
2:32:31
SPEAKER_00: They're true music fans, you know?
2:32:33
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
2:32:34
SPEAKER_00: They're not sketching out and hiding in a closet, you know?
2:32:37
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
2:32:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, David,
2:32:40
SPEAKER_02: where can fans find out about you since you're talking about the internet
2:32:44
SPEAKER_02: and how it ruined everything?
2:32:46
SPEAKER_02: But where do people find you on the media platforms?
2:32:53
SPEAKER_00: Facebook, David Reese and Bangalore Choir, Instagram, you know, bands in town.
2:33:01
SPEAKER_00: I got a good ass kicking about that from a certain guy in the industry about how
2:33:05
SPEAKER_00: behind the curve I am with all this stuff that I got to do to stay relevant.
2:33:11
SPEAKER_00: And he was right.
2:33:12
SPEAKER_00: He's like, dude, your outreach sucks.
2:33:17
SPEAKER_00: So I'm trying to be more active with that.
2:33:20
SPEAKER_00: That's how you can find me.
2:33:21
SPEAKER_00: Go to El Puerto.
2:33:22
SPEAKER_00: They got a bunch of stuff going on.
2:33:25
SPEAKER_00: If you're having problems with the – if you want to buy
2:33:27
SPEAKER_00: the record physical – We do have American Distribution.
2:33:33
SPEAKER_00: El Proto has that indicator on their website.
2:33:36
SPEAKER_00: And they got some great bands too, El Proto, not just Dave.
2:33:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm like you guys, you know, advertise, advertise, advertise.
2:33:49
SPEAKER_00: This is what I'm up to.
2:33:50
SPEAKER_00: If you really are interested in what I'm up to, you'll find me.
2:33:54
SPEAKER_01: There it is.
2:33:55
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
2:33:55
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
2:33:56
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'd like to take us out of the interview with a song from
2:33:59
SPEAKER_02: the new Bangalore Choir release, Payloads.
2:34:03
SPEAKER_02: So I'll let you pick the song and tell us a quick story about it.
2:34:09
SPEAKER_00: The first single has been Tear It All Down, right?
2:34:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to do the second one.
2:34:15
SPEAKER_00: I've already got all the video stuff done, the AI visuals that we use now with computers.
2:34:22
SPEAKER_00: But I'm going to add the crowd next weekend from Holland in this show, this video.
2:34:28
SPEAKER_00: And this will be the second single.
2:34:29
SPEAKER_00: It's called Cost of the Grind.
2:34:33
SPEAKER_00: I think the song rocks.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_00: I fucking love it.
2:34:35
SPEAKER_00: So that'll be the next single.
2:34:37
SPEAKER_00: You want to throw that one up?
2:34:38
SPEAKER_02: And we'll play it, take us out of the interview here.
2:34:42
SPEAKER_02: So the new band choir out on November 6th,
2:34:47
SPEAKER_02: go pick it up and go visit David over at his socials
2:34:50
SPEAKER_02: and let him know you heard him here on the Classic Metal Show.
2:34:53
SPEAKER_02: So David,
2:34:54
SPEAKER_02: of course,
2:34:55
SPEAKER_02: you're welcome back on the show anytime you feel like getting up early again.
2:34:58
SPEAKER_02: And we'll be glad to have you.
2:35:03
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, guys.
2:35:03
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for everything.
2:35:04
SPEAKER_00: And I wish you...
2:35:06
SPEAKER_00: All the best.
2:35:07
SPEAKER_00: Keep following people, everybody in the chat room.
2:35:10
SPEAKER_00: Throw your opinion out there.
2:35:12
SPEAKER_00: You know what opinions are like?
2:35:14
SPEAKER_00: We all got one.
2:35:15
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not going to go that far, but thank you very much.
2:35:20
SPEAKER_00: And my wife,
2:35:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to go up there and hopefully she doesn't cut my head off because I had
2:35:25
SPEAKER_00: to wake her up to help me with this thing.
2:35:28
SPEAKER_02: All right, well,
2:35:28
SPEAKER_02: here's brand new Bangler Choir from the forthcoming release payload,
2:35:33
SPEAKER_02: and this one is called Cost of the Grind, exclusively here.
2:35:37
SPEAKER_01: On your classic metal show.
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2:36:37
SPEAKER_02: It is except right here on your classic metal show with Princess of the Dawn.
2:36:42
SPEAKER_02: Going out by request to Chuck from North Carolina.
2:36:45
SPEAKER_02: Deep Purple in there with Call of the Wild for Jackal.
2:36:49
SPEAKER_02: Judas Priest with Sinner for Roger.
2:36:52
SPEAKER_02: KK's Priest with Sons of the Sentinel for the Immobilizer.
2:36:57
SPEAKER_02: Ted Nugent in there with Tied Up in Love for Skippy.
2:37:00
SPEAKER_02: And kicking that block off, we heard Wasp with the Flame for Scarfoot.
2:37:05
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
2:37:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so a block of classic metal for sure.
2:37:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was good.
2:37:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was a good block.
2:37:13
SPEAKER_02: So that brings us to the final hour of the classic metal show.
2:37:18
SPEAKER_02: This one flew by as usual.
2:37:20
SPEAKER_02: It always flies by.
2:37:22
SPEAKER_01: This is a lot quicker than even most weeks.
2:37:25
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I looked up in there because I've been messing around trying
2:37:30
SPEAKER_01: to figure out how I'm going to distribute this show.
2:37:33
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:37:34
SPEAKER_01: And so I was in there messing with it, and I looked at the clock.
2:37:38
SPEAKER_01: I was like, holy shit, we're like done.
2:37:42
SPEAKER_02: We're done.
2:37:42
SPEAKER_01: We've got
2:37:44
SPEAKER_02: 50 minutes.
2:37:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:37:45
SPEAKER_01: Let me turn the cut off.
2:37:47
SPEAKER_01: This is not the cut.
2:37:49
SPEAKER_01: I had the cut graphic on the screen that everybody else sees.
2:37:53
SPEAKER_02: Oh, no.
2:37:54
SPEAKER_01: Can't have that.
2:37:55
SPEAKER_01: If I would pay attention instead of being in the fucking chat room all the time.
2:37:59
SPEAKER_02: You're being a social fella.
2:38:01
SPEAKER_02: You're...
2:38:02
SPEAKER_02: You're rubbing elbows with the people who pay the bills.
2:38:05
SPEAKER_01: I am.
2:38:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm talking to the various folks about interviews and blah,
2:38:11
SPEAKER_01: blah, blah, you know, stuff that we're doing, stuff that we're done.
2:38:14
SPEAKER_01: I always love it.
2:38:15
SPEAKER_01: And Professor Tor brought this up.
2:38:16
SPEAKER_01: And I'm giving him credit, but this is just an in general credit.
2:38:22
SPEAKER_01: I love it when I do something like an interview that is not a mainstream interview
2:38:29
SPEAKER_01: and somebody digs it.
2:38:31
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
2:38:32
SPEAKER_01: It's easy for me to interview Judas Priest or K.K.
2:38:36
SPEAKER_01: Downing or Phil Anselmo or whatever.
2:38:39
SPEAKER_01: And people are like, holy shit, that's fucking great.
2:38:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's easy.
2:38:43
SPEAKER_01: But Professor Torres in here talking about Frozen Crown.
2:38:48
SPEAKER_01: And like most people don't know who Frozen Crown is.
2:38:53
SPEAKER_01: And just that makes me happy.
2:38:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, that makes me happy because it makes it worth doing.
2:38:59
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
2:39:00
SPEAKER_01: That I...
2:39:01
SPEAKER_01: For better or for worse,
2:39:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm reaching bands that are connecting with other people,
2:39:07
SPEAKER_01: and maybe that'll help people that would like it find it.
2:39:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's the only reason I do the interviews.
2:39:12
SPEAKER_01: It's not about me.
2:39:13
SPEAKER_01: It's really about promoting different shit.
2:39:16
SPEAKER_01: But, you know, it just made me feel like a fag even admitting it, but it made me feel good.
2:39:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, there's nothing wrong with having people acknowledge your achievements.
2:39:27
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:39:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm supposed to be angry and an asshole, man.
2:39:30
SPEAKER_01: Don't you know that?
2:39:30
SPEAKER_02: You know what the thing is?
2:39:31
SPEAKER_02: It's just, you know, I'm proud of this show.
2:39:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm proud of what we do.
2:39:37
SPEAKER_02: And the pride of the show will be available in book form.
2:39:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking it's probably going to be late November, early December.
2:39:48
SPEAKER_02: I got an email from our co-author,
2:39:51
SPEAKER_02: and he said he will be done with final edits at the end of this month.
2:39:58
SPEAKER_02: So that's where that's at.
2:40:00
SPEAKER_02: So it's going to take at least a month to get things organized and get it in print
2:40:06
SPEAKER_02: and all that fun shit.
2:40:08
SPEAKER_02: So I'm thinking end of November, first part of December, just in time for Christmas.
2:40:13
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
2:40:14
SPEAKER_02: Nice Christmas gift.
2:40:17
SPEAKER_02: So that's what's going on with the book.
2:40:20
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, this brings us to the last segment of the show.
2:40:26
SPEAKER_01: Fucking Ben Benjamin.
2:40:27
SPEAKER_01: Chris, that was kind of gay.
2:40:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh, and speaking of being gay.
2:40:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:40:34
SPEAKER_02: For those of you who are, you know, watching us on the Rumble.
2:40:39
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
2:40:40
SPEAKER_02: Would you please hit the thumbs up button?
2:40:42
SPEAKER_02: I think what we need two more to
2:40:45
SPEAKER_01: make 40.
2:40:46
SPEAKER_01: To make 40.
2:40:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:40:47
SPEAKER_01: I like to get between 30 and 40 every week.
2:40:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:40:50
SPEAKER_02: So if you could.
2:40:51
SPEAKER_01: Three more.
2:40:51
SPEAKER_01: Three more?
2:40:52
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
2:40:54
SPEAKER_02: Mine is showing 38 on my end.
2:40:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh, somebody unfollowed.
2:41:00
SPEAKER_01: Can you do that?
2:41:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can un-thumb, I guess.
2:41:03
SPEAKER_01: Can you?
2:41:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:41:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I didn't know that you could un-thumb.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can take the thumb out of your ass if you want to.
2:41:11
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
2:41:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:41:12
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:41:14
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:41:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, anyway, if you could do that for us, that'd be very kind.
2:41:18
SPEAKER_02: It only takes you a click.
2:41:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you're already on the page.
2:41:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, your click of the mouse.
2:41:24
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
2:41:25
SPEAKER_02: Because I know we got over about 140 people watching us right now.
2:41:31
SPEAKER_02: So I think,
2:41:32
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:41:33
SPEAKER_02: one of you 140 people out there could at least click on
2:41:36
SPEAKER_02: that thumbs up button down there.
2:41:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, pal.
2:41:40
SPEAKER_01: That's all we're asking.
2:41:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're not out here begging for super chats.
2:41:44
SPEAKER_02: No, just a click, a thumbs up.
2:41:48
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
2:41:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:41:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:41:50
SPEAKER_02: So what do you got for us here?
2:41:53
SPEAKER_02: One of the topics on our splash page there was also Roger Waters and your buddy James Hetfield.
2:42:00
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:42:01
SPEAKER_02: So what's all that about?
2:42:02
SPEAKER_01: You're not aware of this thing?
2:42:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, I saw this floating around and I didn't read it.
2:42:07
SPEAKER_02: I didn't want to get into it because I just knew this was going to be a part of the show.
2:42:11
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
2:42:13
SPEAKER_01: So notorious cunt Roger Waters is running his stupid mouth again.
2:42:21
SPEAKER_02: Even though you have a drawing of him hanging on your wall.
2:42:25
SPEAKER_01: It pains me with this guy.
2:42:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to lie.
2:42:31
SPEAKER_01: And I've said this a bunch of times on this show, on even the Seth show, the other shows.
2:42:40
SPEAKER_01: 99.99% of the time, I literally separate the music from the person.
2:42:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
2:42:49
SPEAKER_01: Sebastian Bach is a dick.
2:42:52
SPEAKER_01: But I love his music.
2:42:53
SPEAKER_01: And I will continue to love his music.
2:42:56
SPEAKER_01: I will never love him as a guy, as a person.
2:42:59
SPEAKER_01: I'll always think he's a dick.
2:43:02
SPEAKER_01: But I'll never say, well, Skid Row sucks now because this guy's an idiot.
2:43:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I feel the same way about John Mellencamp.
2:43:10
SPEAKER_02: I can't stand his politics, but I would have loved to have gone to the show this year.
2:43:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:43:16
SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd.
2:43:19
SPEAKER_01: Original Pink Floyd.
2:43:20
SPEAKER_01: And even...
2:43:21
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I really liked the stuff they did without Roger, to be honest.
2:43:27
SPEAKER_01: But the original Pink Floyd is some of my favorite music of all time.
2:43:32
SPEAKER_01: When I'm not in the mood to listen to metal,
2:43:35
SPEAKER_01: and I've talked about this a lot,
2:43:36
SPEAKER_01: I'll listen to mellow stuff,
2:43:37
SPEAKER_01: like a lot of times it's Yacht Rock, but a lot of the time it's Pink Floyd.
2:43:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, a lot of the time.
2:43:45
SPEAKER_01: It is not uncommon at all,
2:43:47
SPEAKER_01: probably happens still at least once a week,
2:43:50
SPEAKER_01: Where I'll throw on The Wall or Animals or,
2:43:52
SPEAKER_01: you know, one of the many great, great releases from Pig Floyd.
2:44:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, I love them.
2:44:01
SPEAKER_01: I really like them.
2:44:02
SPEAKER_01: And even Summer Rogers,
2:44:04
SPEAKER_01: the first two,
2:44:05
SPEAKER_01: you know, the Hitchhiking record and the Radio Chaos, I love those two.
2:44:12
SPEAKER_01: I am a fan of what this creative genius can do.
2:44:19
SPEAKER_01: But man, does he make it hard to keep liking this guy.
2:44:25
SPEAKER_01: He's such a fucking cunt on everything he does outside of his band or his music.
2:44:35
SPEAKER_01: And once again, he's spitting like a tard about something that has nothing to do with him.
2:44:46
SPEAKER_01: So, I don't remember if we covered this or not last week,
2:44:49
SPEAKER_01: but James Hetfield on stage basically said,
2:44:54
SPEAKER_01: when you come to a Metallica show,
2:44:57
SPEAKER_01: we're not going to spill our politics on the stage.
2:45:00
SPEAKER_01: You come here to get away from the politics, blah, blah, blah.
2:45:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's two sides.
2:45:07
SPEAKER_01: There's either the overly political now or the guys that just don't want nothing
2:45:10
SPEAKER_01: to do with their politics on the stage.
2:45:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I would prefer the guys who have nothing to do with politics.
2:45:16
SPEAKER_02: They're just here to be...
2:45:18
SPEAKER_02: They're just here to be trained monkeys to entertain me.
2:45:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:45:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what we're paying them for.
2:45:23
SPEAKER_01: We're paying them for the songs.
2:45:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:45:25
SPEAKER_01: And quite honestly,
2:45:27
SPEAKER_01: in Metallica's case,
2:45:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't think everybody agrees with this point, but this is my personal point.
2:45:36
SPEAKER_01: They speak their politics in the music.
2:45:39
SPEAKER_01: They have political songs.
2:45:41
SPEAKER_01: Let's not kid anybody here.
2:45:42
SPEAKER_01: Disposable Heroes is a political song.
2:45:45
SPEAKER_01: One is a fairly political song.
2:45:48
SPEAKER_01: You know,
2:45:49
SPEAKER_01: they have political songs,
2:45:51
SPEAKER_01: but they don't come out on stage and go,
2:45:55
SPEAKER_01: this one goes out to anybody that thinks Joe Biden or Donald Trump is an asshole.
2:46:02
SPEAKER_01: This is Disposable Heroes.
2:46:05
SPEAKER_01: You know, they don't do that shit.
2:46:06
SPEAKER_01: They just play the song, you know, and you're left to interpret it however you interpret it.
2:46:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, take away from it what you will.
2:46:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:46:15
SPEAKER_01: Enjoy it.
2:46:16
SPEAKER_01: Don't.
2:46:17
SPEAKER_01: Have a message behind it.
2:46:19
SPEAKER_01: Don't.
2:46:19
SPEAKER_01: Whatever you want to do, that's fine.
2:46:24
SPEAKER_01: And fine, whatever.
2:46:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly,
2:46:27
SPEAKER_01: I wish Hetfield hadn't even said,
2:46:30
SPEAKER_01: to be really perfectly honest, I wish he hadn't even brought attention to it.
2:46:35
SPEAKER_01: He should just do what he's done for the last 40 years and not say anything about it.
2:46:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, just do your shit.
2:46:42
SPEAKER_01: But he did.
2:46:43
SPEAKER_01: Probably because he's on social media and he's reading all this bullshit and whatever.
2:46:48
SPEAKER_01: And fine.
2:46:51
SPEAKER_01: So then,
2:46:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't have too much of a problem with that other
2:46:55
SPEAKER_01: than I just don't see why I even needed to say that.
2:46:57
SPEAKER_01: They're the biggest band in the world.
2:46:59
SPEAKER_01: They're not being hurt by their politics, whatever it is, you know?
2:47:03
SPEAKER_01: Formula's working.
2:47:06
SPEAKER_01: So this dumb fuck Roger Waters comes out and makes the most stupid fucking statement.
2:47:14
SPEAKER_01: Arguably, in social media history.
2:47:20
SPEAKER_01: Roger took aim at James Hetfield during a recent appearance at the Katie Halper Show.
2:47:26
SPEAKER_01: The former Pink Floyd bassist and activist said, Can we stop talking about this prick?
2:47:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm so bored with him.
2:47:35
SPEAKER_01: He's just showing that he's a complete prick.
2:47:39
SPEAKER_01: He's got an IQ of about three,
2:47:42
SPEAKER_01: and why we're talking about him,
2:47:45
SPEAKER_01: I honestly don't know, because he's a nobody, and he'll always be.
2:47:51
SPEAKER_01: Is he talking about James Hetfield?
2:47:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:47:59
SPEAKER_01: He may have a few hundred million dollars or whatever, but he's a prick.
2:48:06
SPEAKER_01: I heard them playing acoustic instruments and they couldn't.
2:48:10
SPEAKER_01: It was appalling.
2:48:13
SPEAKER_01: It's a shame this prick didn't have somebody around him to explain
2:48:18
SPEAKER_01: that being kind is way more important than all that loud music and bouncing around
2:48:26
SPEAKER_01: and whatever.
2:48:29
SPEAKER_01: Are you really serious with this?
2:48:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:48:35
SPEAKER_01: First of all, I mean, we can tear this down a million different ways.
2:48:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to skip the prick part, because whatever.
2:48:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know James Hetfield.
2:48:44
SPEAKER_01: You don't know him.
2:48:45
SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
2:48:46
SPEAKER_02: No, but do they have history?
2:48:50
SPEAKER_02: Not that I'm aware of.
2:48:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:48:52
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know if they traded barbs at one point or something.
2:48:57
SPEAKER_01: Not that I'm aware.
2:48:57
SPEAKER_01: I would think if they had, it would have been in any of these.
2:49:00
SPEAKER_01: And this is a big story.
2:49:02
SPEAKER_01: And who's talking about James Hetfield?
2:49:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, because of the sphere and whatever.
2:49:07
SPEAKER_01: It's a big story.
2:49:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know, but I mean, who's specifically talking about James Hetfield?
2:49:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't know the full context of this.
2:49:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to lie.
2:49:16
SPEAKER_01: If I had to guess,
2:49:17
SPEAKER_01: since he was doing this show,
2:49:19
SPEAKER_01: my thought would be that they referenced Metallica in asking him if he
2:49:27
SPEAKER_01: or maybe he would reunite with Pink Floyd or something to play an event at
2:49:33
SPEAKER_01: the sphere.
2:49:35
SPEAKER_01: See what I mean?
2:49:35
SPEAKER_01: Because of the presentation and whatnot.
2:49:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:49:39
SPEAKER_01: It could.
2:49:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it could be cool, actually.
2:49:42
SPEAKER_01: But whatever.
2:49:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't know the answer, to be honest.
2:49:47
SPEAKER_01: My question, though, is
2:49:50
SPEAKER_01: how the fuck can you say that this guy, James Hetfield, is a nobody?
2:49:57
SPEAKER_01: Quite honestly, he's bigger than you got, Roger.
2:50:02
SPEAKER_01: And I know that's a big statement.
2:50:05
SPEAKER_01: But when it comes to every level of musician,
2:50:09
SPEAKER_01: every level, he's a bigger, more dominant performer than Roger Waters in perception.
2:50:17
SPEAKER_01: Do you agree?
2:50:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:50:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Roger Waters' day has passed.
2:50:23
SPEAKER_01: I would say at the height of each of their career,
2:50:25
SPEAKER_01: he's a bigger, bigger celebrity than Roger Waters ever was.
2:50:35
SPEAKER_01: Metallica, 1992.
2:50:36
SPEAKER_01: You're going to tell me,
2:50:38
SPEAKER_01: James Hetfield, 1992, James Hetfield's not bigger than 1975, Roger Waters?
2:50:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, again,
2:50:46
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:50:47
SPEAKER_02: obviously,
2:50:48
SPEAKER_02: Pink Floyd,
2:50:51
SPEAKER_02: during the Roger Waters era, the most video exposure that they got was The Wall.
2:50:58
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
2:51:00
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
2:51:01
SPEAKER_02: You know, that was a big movie for them.
2:51:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:51:06
SPEAKER_02: Pink Floyd was a collective.
2:51:08
SPEAKER_02: They weren't individual stars, I guess you want to call it.
2:51:13
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
2:51:16
SPEAKER_02: Even though people may know their names in the members of the band,
2:51:21
SPEAKER_02: they were not standout performers.
2:51:24
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
2:51:25
SPEAKER_02: Like the front man.
2:51:26
SPEAKER_02: He wasn't like the front man, even though he was the vocalist on a lot of the songs.
2:51:31
SPEAKER_02: He wasn't the front man.
2:51:34
SPEAKER_02: Because David Gilmour was also the front man.
2:51:39
SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd was an aura.
2:51:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they were a performance art band.
2:51:50
SPEAKER_01: But Pink Floyd was the same as going and seeing an IMAX movie.
2:51:57
SPEAKER_01: It was an experience...
2:52:00
SPEAKER_01: You don't go to Pink Floyd, and I've seen Pink Floyd, and you've seen Pink Floyd live.
2:52:07
SPEAKER_01: And I've seen Water Solo live.
2:52:10
SPEAKER_01: You don't go to those shows and go,
2:52:12
SPEAKER_01: man, that was really great the way that they played one of these days.
2:52:19
SPEAKER_01: Or man, I can't believe that they didn't play Money tonight.
2:52:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, whatever.
2:52:26
SPEAKER_01: You don't go to a Pink Floyd show and...
2:52:29
SPEAKER_01: For an individualistic song.
2:52:33
SPEAKER_01: Like you might for a Metallica.
2:52:35
SPEAKER_01: You got a Metallica, you want to hear Enter Sandman or One or whatever.
2:52:39
SPEAKER_02: Pink Floyd was an experience.
2:52:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:52:43
SPEAKER_03: Look at these comment sets on this laptop.
2:52:45
SPEAKER_03: They are saying I'm totally crazy.
2:52:47
SPEAKER_03: Unhinged?
2:52:47
SPEAKER_03: I'll show you unhinged.
2:52:49
SPEAKER_03: I'm just getting started.
2:52:50
SPEAKER_03: You can't stop rock and roll.
2:52:51
SPEAKER_03: You can't stop me.
2:52:58
SPEAKER_01: But...
2:53:00
SPEAKER_01: For him to say that James Hetfield is an—even if we're going
2:53:04
SPEAKER_01: to say that—I don't think you could put Hetfield below Waters as far as significance
2:53:10
SPEAKER_01: on any level.
2:53:12
SPEAKER_01: On any level.
2:53:14
SPEAKER_01: As a musician,
2:53:15
SPEAKER_01: as a performer,
2:53:16
SPEAKER_01: as an artist, as a band, Metallica, all surpassed Pink Floyd and Roger Waters.
2:53:25
SPEAKER_01: On every level.
2:53:27
SPEAKER_02: This is what I want to back up on because I'm not familiar with the story.
2:53:31
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:53:32
SPEAKER_02: Why is he keying in on James Hetfield?
2:53:37
SPEAKER_01: Again, I don't know the answer, but I'm assuming it's some question about the sphere.
2:53:43
SPEAKER_01: That's the only reason James Hetfield would come up in a Roger Waters interview.
2:53:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know, but Metallica is playing the sphere, not James Hetfield.
2:53:54
SPEAKER_01: He picked the target?
2:53:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:53:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, he picked the target.
2:53:57
SPEAKER_01: He picked Hetfield because Hetfield is saying keep your fucking politics off the stage.
2:54:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he didn't say this to other bands.
2:54:07
SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't matter.
2:54:09
SPEAKER_02: He said we as Metallica are not going to put our politics out on the stage.
2:54:16
SPEAKER_02: We're just here to play music for you.
2:54:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:54:19
SPEAKER_02: But here's his statement.
2:54:21
SPEAKER_02: Did he go,
2:54:23
SPEAKER_02: we Metallica are going to play our music and keep our politics off the stage,
2:54:28
SPEAKER_02: unlike that asshole Roger Waters, who's always doing that.
2:54:32
SPEAKER_02: Did he say that?
2:54:33
SPEAKER_01: Here's his exact statement, Hetfield.
2:54:36
SPEAKER_01: Metallica is not here, like some other entertainers, to influence you with their bullshit.
2:54:42
SPEAKER_01: That's all he said.
2:54:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:54:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, did, did Roger Waters think that was directed at him specifically?
2:54:50
SPEAKER_01: Probably because he won't shut the fuck up about his politics.
2:54:53
SPEAKER_01: Well, how about John Mellencamp?
2:54:55
SPEAKER_02: Probably directed at him too.
2:54:57
SPEAKER_02: Indirectly.
2:54:57
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:54:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's my point.
2:54:59
SPEAKER_02: It could have been anybody.
2:55:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:55:03
SPEAKER_02: Because lately there's been a rash of these various entertainers,
2:55:08
SPEAKER_02: be it metal rock country who've been out there wearing their politics
2:55:13
SPEAKER_02: on their sleeve.
2:55:15
SPEAKER_02: I've seen comments from country guys lately making this whole,
2:55:20
SPEAKER_02: and this is where I think this is coming from, is that whole, who was it?
2:55:28
SPEAKER_02: Who were the people that they played that Robert Kraft's stadium
2:55:36
SPEAKER_02: and were making- Oh,
2:55:37
SPEAKER_01: that Sheeran guy or whatever?
2:55:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:55:40
SPEAKER_02: Ed Sheeran?
2:55:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, people dropped off the tour because of the political statements and
2:55:48
SPEAKER_02: that Robert Kraft,
2:55:49
SPEAKER_02: who owns the Patriots,
2:55:51
SPEAKER_02: he said,
2:55:51
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:55:52
SPEAKER_02: I would appreciate it if you don't, you know, make that in my
2:55:55
SPEAKER_01: building or whatever.
2:55:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, do this political and people,
2:56:00
SPEAKER_02: free Palestine and blah, blah, blah,
2:56:03
SPEAKER_02: you know,
2:56:03
SPEAKER_02: and I think that to me,
2:56:05
SPEAKER_02: if I heard in today's climate,
2:56:07
SPEAKER_02: in today's current news cycle,
2:56:12
SPEAKER_02: With Metallica playing the sphere and the current tour that is going on right now,
2:56:19
SPEAKER_02: that people dropped off the tour because of people making their political statements
2:56:25
SPEAKER_02: and whatever, I
2:56:26
SPEAKER_02: would have said to myself...
2:56:33
SPEAKER_02: James Hetfield is saying, we're not going to do that.
2:56:37
SPEAKER_02: We're not going to be caught up in the minutia of doing that kind of a thing.
2:56:43
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:56:45
SPEAKER_02: No, I agree.
2:56:47
SPEAKER_02: And that is a current story.
2:56:50
SPEAKER_02: Roger Waters is not a current story.
2:56:53
SPEAKER_01: No, he's only current when he runs his fucking mouth about
2:56:56
SPEAKER_01: his dumb politics or saying something crazy like this or that he's glad that Ozzy was dead.
2:57:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:57:03
SPEAKER_02: So now that you have put it in that frame,
2:57:08
SPEAKER_02: something tells me that this Roger Waters thinks that James Hetfield was taking aim
2:57:15
SPEAKER_02: at Roger Waters by making a statement like that.
2:57:18
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
2:57:18
SPEAKER_02: When in my mind...
2:57:21
SPEAKER_02: Because I do follow the news a little bit.
2:57:23
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:57:24
SPEAKER_02: This current tour that fell apart because of all these artists that left the tour
2:57:30
SPEAKER_02: because of this free Palestine bullshit that's been going on out there.
2:57:35
SPEAKER_01: And Waters is part of that, right?
2:57:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
2:57:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if he's pro or against.
2:57:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what the difference is, to be honest.
2:57:42
SPEAKER_01: I could give a fuck about stuff 10,000 miles from here.
2:57:45
SPEAKER_02: True, but my point is it's a current tour that fell apart because a lot of
2:57:52
SPEAKER_02: the artists left the tour or something.
2:57:58
SPEAKER_02: Who is it?
2:57:58
SPEAKER_01: Who was the... Ed Sheeran is the guy, and it was his band that quit.
2:58:04
SPEAKER_02: Was it his band?
2:58:05
SPEAKER_02: It was his band.
2:58:07
SPEAKER_02: Was it the support acts?
2:58:08
SPEAKER_02: It was his band.
2:58:10
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:58:10
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:58:12
SPEAKER_02: So this caused this whole thing to implode because of that.
2:58:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, here's what it is.
2:58:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm reading the article as we go.
2:58:18
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:58:19
SPEAKER_01: While Hetfield named no names,
2:58:20
SPEAKER_01: the comment was widely linked with the removal of Macklemore
2:58:24
SPEAKER_01: from Ed Sheeran Stadium.
2:58:26
SPEAKER_01: That's what it is.
2:58:27
SPEAKER_02: That's what I was looking for.
2:58:28
SPEAKER_01: And then his band quit on him as well.
2:58:30
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:58:31
SPEAKER_01: All right.
2:58:31
SPEAKER_02: That's because I don't know these people.
2:58:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't give two shits about them, but Macklemore.
2:58:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:58:37
SPEAKER_02: That's who I was after.
2:58:39
SPEAKER_02: Because he went out there and made a big political statement, blah, blah, blah.
2:58:43
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's just like, and, you know, Headfield, I think, and again, you stated it.
2:58:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't know the guy.
2:58:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:58:56
SPEAKER_02: But people, and we talked about this with David Reese earlier, people are spending...
2:59:02
SPEAKER_02: A shit ton of money to go see Metallica.
2:59:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:59:06
SPEAKER_02: So he's aware of people making trips,
2:59:12
SPEAKER_02: traveling, spending money just to attend these fear residency thing.
2:59:18
SPEAKER_02: And it's like everybody at ease.
2:59:21
SPEAKER_02: We're not going to do any political statement bullshit here.
2:59:24
SPEAKER_02: We're just going to perform for you.
2:59:26
SPEAKER_01: And we're going to give you every minute that you paid for of Metallica.
2:59:30
SPEAKER_01: So what was wrong with that?
2:59:33
SPEAKER_01: He won't support whatever it is that Waters is supporting.
2:59:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, who cares?
2:59:39
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
2:59:39
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I agree.
2:59:41
SPEAKER_01: And I don't think I even bring this story to the show if he just says,
2:59:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't like Metallica or Metallica's not supporting the Palestinian movement,
2:59:56
SPEAKER_01: whatever the fuck it is, you know.
2:59:59
SPEAKER_01: If he says that, I don't think I can bring this to the story.
3:00:02
SPEAKER_01: The story to me is that he goes after James Hetfield like he's the singer of Trickster.
3:00:14
SPEAKER_01: And I'm sorry, but James Hetfield and Metallica is the biggest rock band of the last 50 years.
3:00:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, even bigger than Guns N' Roses.
3:00:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're in the same space as the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.
3:00:34
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
3:00:35
SPEAKER_01: That's where Metallica falls in the all-time pecking order.
3:00:40
SPEAKER_01: Above stuff like, I would say, above the Who.
3:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe not.
3:00:45
SPEAKER_01: That's probably a person by person.
3:00:48
SPEAKER_02: They're all in that same echelon.
3:00:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, Metallica's there.
3:00:54
SPEAKER_01: Metallica is...
3:00:56
SPEAKER_01: Metallica's playing the sphere because they can't find buildings big enough for them
3:01:00
SPEAKER_01: to play and challenges for them to do.
3:01:03
SPEAKER_01: They've conquered everything.
3:01:05
SPEAKER_01: They've conquered stadiums.
3:01:06
SPEAKER_01: They've conquered festivals.
3:01:08
SPEAKER_01: They've conquered sheds.
3:01:11
SPEAKER_01: They've, you know, they're doing different.
3:01:14
SPEAKER_01: They went to fucking Antarctica.
3:01:16
SPEAKER_01: They're like the only band that's ever played in Antarctica.
3:01:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember the big MTV contest about that.
3:01:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:01:25
SPEAKER_01: It was like such a thing.
3:01:28
SPEAKER_01: They're bigger than Pink Floyd.
3:01:32
SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd is way up near the top as well.
3:01:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to try and say that like Pink Floyd is trickster either.
3:01:39
SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd is probably in the most people's top 10 to 15, wouldn't you say?
3:01:45
SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd's probably same levels like Van Halen.
3:01:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:01:50
SPEAKER_01: Maybe a little bigger, but right there, right in that space.
3:01:55
SPEAKER_02: They are a classic rock staple.
3:01:57
SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
3:02:00
SPEAKER_01: Are they bigger than, say, Pearl Jam?
3:02:05
SPEAKER_01: Who, Pink Floyd?
3:02:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:02:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:02:08
SPEAKER_01: You think by a lot or by a little?
3:02:12
SPEAKER_01: I would say... Pearl Jam plays stadiums now.
3:02:14
SPEAKER_01: They do.
3:02:15
SPEAKER_02: Has for a while.
3:02:16
SPEAKER_02: They do, but I think from a legacy standpoint, I think that they're bigger.
3:02:21
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
3:02:22
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
3:02:23
SPEAKER_01: But my argument back to that would be you can hear two or three
3:02:32
SPEAKER_01: Pearl Jam songs
3:02:34
SPEAKER_01: on every classic rock station four times a day.
3:02:38
SPEAKER_01: Same as Pink Floyd.
3:02:39
SPEAKER_01: Now Pink Floyd has the reputation, the longer reputation.
3:02:45
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying from a legacy standpoint.
3:02:48
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
3:02:48
SPEAKER_01: But as far as achieving to that level, I think they're close.
3:02:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't think they're a million miles past Pearl Jam.
3:03:01
SPEAKER_02: No, no, not at all.
3:03:03
SPEAKER_02: But from a legacy standpoint,
3:03:07
SPEAKER_02: they have a reputation for their,
3:03:12
SPEAKER_02: what do you want to call it,
3:03:13
SPEAKER_02: presentation, their experience, the Pink Floyd experience.
3:03:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:03:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at the camera.
3:03:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you think about it,
3:03:23
SPEAKER_02: that last go-round for Pink Floyd, that division bell tour, that was huge.
3:03:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, sure.
3:03:31
SPEAKER_02: It was huge.
3:03:32
SPEAKER_02: What was that, 1994?
3:03:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nothing to do with Roger Waters.
3:03:36
SPEAKER_02: It's over 30 years ago, right?
3:03:38
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
3:03:38
SPEAKER_02: But we're talking Pink Floyd as an entity, which, of course, Roger Waters was a part of.
3:03:45
SPEAKER_02: So the average person out there who thinks Pink Floyd and knows of Roger Waters,
3:03:53
SPEAKER_02: they may not even know that Roger Waters was not part of the division bell.
3:03:58
SPEAKER_01: That is true.
3:03:59
SPEAKER_02: They would go, oh, Pink Floyd, Roger Waters.
3:04:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, cool.
3:04:04
SPEAKER_02: But that tour was so huge, a stadium-sized tour, and that big
3:04:15
SPEAKER_02: Thing that they had on the stage, they had three of those.
3:04:18
SPEAKER_02: It was so big, they had to have two being assembled ahead of the next night's show.
3:04:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
3:04:28
SPEAKER_02: Because it was such a massive undertaking.
3:04:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, again, I'm not trying to say that Pink Floyd's not a...
3:04:39
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
3:04:41
SPEAKER_02: What I'm trying to point out is that was an experience.
3:04:46
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
3:04:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I agree with that.
3:04:48
SPEAKER_02: And I agree with you that when it comes to Metallica,
3:04:52
SPEAKER_02: as big as they are,
3:04:54
SPEAKER_02: certain songs basically stand out that people go,
3:04:58
SPEAKER_02: yeah, they got to play Anderson, man, man.
3:05:01
SPEAKER_02: They got to play, you know, whatever.
3:05:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they got to play Anderson, man.
3:05:06
SPEAKER_01: They got to play.
3:05:07
SPEAKER_01: Master of Puppets.
3:05:08
SPEAKER_01: They got to play one.
3:05:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, I'm trying to think of bands that are probably close to Pink Floyd.
3:05:18
SPEAKER_01: How about Genesis?
3:05:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:05:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're that prog rock thing.
3:05:24
SPEAKER_01: They're probably as close to even in the scale.
3:05:31
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
3:05:32
SPEAKER_01: Do you think so?
3:05:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:05:34
SPEAKER_01: Again, they've done stadiums.
3:05:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, back when they got back together, what was that, 2007?
3:05:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:05:43
SPEAKER_02: That was a big tour for them.
3:05:44
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
3:05:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, Roger Waters needs to pipe down.
3:05:50
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
3:05:51
SPEAKER_02: And the thing is, the way that I look at it, it's just like, did you get sand in your pussy?
3:05:56
SPEAKER_02: You think James Hetfield was talking about you?
3:05:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:06:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that was it.
3:06:02
SPEAKER_02: I think he was talking about Macklemore.
3:06:10
SPEAKER_01: Since you said it.
3:06:12
SPEAKER_01: Look at that.
3:06:13
SPEAKER_01: Since you said it, I already had the graphic.
3:06:14
SPEAKER_01: How about that?
3:06:21
SPEAKER_01: There it is.
3:06:22
SPEAKER_01: There's the graphic.
3:06:23
SPEAKER_01: See?
3:06:25
SPEAKER_01: I guess you're on point with that one.
3:06:27
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
3:06:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he really, really...
3:06:31
SPEAKER_01: Really needs to shut the fuck up.
3:06:33
SPEAKER_02: I seriously doubt James Hetfield had Roger Waters in mind
3:06:39
SPEAKER_02: when he said he made his political statement.
3:06:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure, again, with the most latest news, he was making commentary about that Macklemore guy.
3:06:51
SPEAKER_01: He probably was, yeah.
3:06:52
SPEAKER_01: I hadn't really thought of that, but you're probably 100% right on that.
3:06:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, just...
3:07:00
SPEAKER_01: I just, I hate it.
3:07:02
SPEAKER_01: I hate that these artists today,
3:07:04
SPEAKER_01: and I know this is, again,
3:07:08
SPEAKER_01: it's me yelling at the fucking clouds,
3:07:09
SPEAKER_01: but I miss the days where we didn't know much about these guys.
3:07:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, again, I'm going to go with our David Reese tonight.
3:07:20
SPEAKER_02: The internet has just ruined everything.
3:07:22
SPEAKER_01: It has.
3:07:23
SPEAKER_01: It has.
3:07:26
SPEAKER_02: I like how he was just like, yeah, this platform's great.
3:07:29
SPEAKER_02: We were doing this thing over the internet, but for the most part, it's ruined everything.
3:07:33
SPEAKER_01: It's ruined every goddamn thing.
3:07:35
SPEAKER_02: But again,
3:07:36
SPEAKER_02: this goes back to even,
3:07:38
SPEAKER_02: and I'm going to take credit for this, about the whole goddamn social media.
3:07:43
SPEAKER_02: How much have I railed against social media for the last 20 years?
3:07:47
SPEAKER_02: From day one.
3:07:49
SPEAKER_01: I tried desperately to get you to get a MySpace account, I think it was back then.
3:07:55
SPEAKER_01: You were like, no
3:07:56
SPEAKER_02: fucking way.
3:07:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm not involved, not doing any of that bullshit.
3:08:01
SPEAKER_01: By the way, Reese sent us an email.
3:08:03
SPEAKER_01: I'll forward it to you.
3:08:04
SPEAKER_01: He just said, thanks, and I appreciate your honesty on the show.
3:08:07
SPEAKER_01: Really enjoyed it.
3:08:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you go.
3:08:09
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
3:08:10
SPEAKER_01: We told our thing.
3:08:11
SPEAKER_01: He told his.
3:08:12
SPEAKER_01: It was good.
3:08:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you, David.
3:08:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, appreciate it.
3:08:16
SPEAKER_01: Loved having him on.
3:08:19
SPEAKER_01: All right, one more story, and we'll get the fuck out of here.
3:08:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:08:24
SPEAKER_01: I don't think we did this.
3:08:25
SPEAKER_01: If we did, stop me and I'll come up with something else to talk about.
3:08:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, I got other stuff too, so if this one doesn't work out.
3:08:32
SPEAKER_01: If this doesn't work out, but we have to cover this if we didn't already.
3:08:36
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:08:36
SPEAKER_01: We did not cover the end of the Beach Boys, did we?
3:08:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, you sent it to me, and that's as far as it went.
3:08:45
SPEAKER_02: We did not cover this.
3:08:47
SPEAKER_02: All right, we have to cover it.
3:08:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
3:08:50
SPEAKER_02: This was just...
3:08:52
SPEAKER_02: Actually, very disturbing.
3:08:54
SPEAKER_01: This is... We beat on the Frankie Valley stuff a lot.
3:09:05
SPEAKER_01: We covered that easily three or four times, did we not?
3:09:09
SPEAKER_01: At least twice.
3:09:11
SPEAKER_01: And we covered Phil Collins a bunch of times.
3:09:15
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
3:09:17
SPEAKER_01: This makes all those guys...
3:09:20
SPEAKER_01: Seem like 22-year-old wonderkins on the stage.
3:09:25
SPEAKER_01: This is another level of horrendous.
3:09:30
SPEAKER_01: Horrendous.
3:09:34
SPEAKER_01: There should be criminal charges filed against the management of the Beach Boys.
3:09:40
SPEAKER_01: Mike Love's son, who I think is this guitar player that's quote-unquote dancing with him.
3:09:46
SPEAKER_01: And John Stamos.
3:09:47
SPEAKER_01: And John Stamos.
3:09:50
SPEAKER_01: They should all be in jail for this.
3:09:54
SPEAKER_01: This is elder abuse.
3:09:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't have, in my opinion, it is.
3:10:00
SPEAKER_01: You watched it.
3:10:01
SPEAKER_01: Is it elder abuse to you?
3:10:03
SPEAKER_02: I believe so.
3:10:04
SPEAKER_02: They're wheeling a living corpse out on the stage, as far as I'm concerned.
3:10:10
SPEAKER_01: This is really Weekend at Bernie's.
3:10:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this feels like Weekend at Bernie's.
3:10:17
SPEAKER_01: It really is.
3:10:19
SPEAKER_01: Put on the state on the screen here.
3:10:22
SPEAKER_01: Share this tab.
3:10:24
SPEAKER_01: All right.
3:10:26
SPEAKER_01: So let's give a look at without even pushing play.
3:10:31
SPEAKER_02: That's a dead body.
3:10:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:10:33
SPEAKER_02: Look, look at his bony knees.
3:10:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:10:40
SPEAKER_01: He's wearing skinny jeans that still look too thick for him.
3:10:44
SPEAKER_01: His skinny jeans are baggy.
3:10:47
SPEAKER_01: Look down here.
3:10:48
SPEAKER_01: Look at how thin his ankle is compared to these pants.
3:10:52
SPEAKER_01: And these are the kind that are supposed to hug your ankles.
3:10:59
SPEAKER_01: And he's wearing a life preserver in case he, what, falls?
3:11:03
SPEAKER_01: I was wondering what that was.
3:11:05
SPEAKER_01: Is that to represent the beach?
3:11:07
SPEAKER_01: He's wearing a life preserver?
3:11:09
SPEAKER_01: I think that's what it is.
3:11:11
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if it has a little tube in it and he's got his mouth with oxygen in it.
3:11:16
SPEAKER_02: It's like one of the ones that you get on a plane where they demonstrate on
3:11:21
SPEAKER_02: a plane just in case the plane goes down in the water.
3:11:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, put it around your neck and...
3:11:29
SPEAKER_01: This isn't right, man.
3:11:32
SPEAKER_01: This is the guy that sang, you know, California Dreamin' and, you know, whatever other songs.
3:11:39
SPEAKER_02: And even the most recent big hit from 1986, Kokomo.
3:11:42
SPEAKER_02: The Kokomo.
3:11:48
SPEAKER_01: This isn't Kokomo, this is the dead Jamoke.
3:11:50
SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ, he looks dead.
3:11:54
SPEAKER_01: All right, let me play this video and then we'll comment.
3:11:58
SPEAKER_01: For anybody that has not seen this, this is horrible.
3:12:01
SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
3:12:05
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3:12:50
SPEAKER_02: Why do this?
3:12:51
SPEAKER_02: So there's a whole band built around one guy.
3:12:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:12:56
SPEAKER_02: One dead guy.
3:12:58
SPEAKER_02: These are not the Beach Boys.
3:13:00
SPEAKER_01: No.
3:13:01
SPEAKER_02: This is Mike Love and a bunch of guys.
3:13:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:13:05
SPEAKER_02: And again, you know, David Reese, you know, keyed in on this again.
3:13:10
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
3:13:12
SPEAKER_02: Which is something we talk about all the time, the band versus brand thing.
3:13:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:13:17
SPEAKER_02: Just because this is Mike Love, this is the Beach Boys?
3:13:22
SPEAKER_01: I might accept it if he was up and dancing around or something.
3:13:27
SPEAKER_01: This fucking guy, you could stick him in a coffin and not know for hours that he's alive.
3:13:33
SPEAKER_02: What is that bag under his chair?
3:13:35
SPEAKER_02: Is that his oxygen or something?
3:13:37
SPEAKER_01: It's probably an emergency medical kit.
3:13:40
SPEAKER_01: Defibrillator or something.
3:13:42
SPEAKER_01: Casey has a stroke from that heavy movement that he was doing.
3:13:47
SPEAKER_02: So that guitarist, is that his son?
3:13:49
SPEAKER_02: That's John Stamos, I think.
3:13:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's John Stamos.
3:13:51
SPEAKER_02: Isn't it?
3:13:52
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
3:13:53
SPEAKER_02: Here, I'll play it again.
3:13:55
SPEAKER_02: And he just goes like this, and he's just like.
3:14:03
SPEAKER_01: Retard see, retard do.
3:14:06
SPEAKER_02: John Stamos should be ashamed of him.
3:14:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, my God.
3:14:10
SPEAKER_01: Are you kidding?
3:14:12
SPEAKER_01: Let's play it one more.
3:14:13
SPEAKER_01: I'll play it back one more time.
3:14:15
SPEAKER_01: It's only 15 seconds or 13 seconds.
3:14:17
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
3:14:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go back to the beginning.
3:14:23
SPEAKER_02: He has to wake him up.
3:14:25
SPEAKER_02: I know he has to hit him.
3:14:27
SPEAKER_02: Hey, hey, wake up.
3:14:29
SPEAKER_02: Then he's doing the monkey.
3:14:31
SPEAKER_02: He's doing.
3:14:35
SPEAKER_01: And then he goes, he goes, all right, leave me alone.
3:14:39
SPEAKER_01: All right, I'm done.
3:14:42
SPEAKER_01: Watch him.
3:14:43
SPEAKER_01: He wakes him up, it looks like, to do this.
3:14:45
SPEAKER_01: He goes, hey.
3:14:47
SPEAKER_01: Hey, wake up, stupid.
3:14:48
SPEAKER_01: Hey.
3:14:53
Hey.
3:14:55
Oh.
3:15:00
[music]
3:15:10
SPEAKER_01: Just brutal.
3:15:12
SPEAKER_01: He's just asleep up there on the stage.
3:15:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:15:15
SPEAKER_01: He's taking a nap before he takes a dirt nap.
3:15:20
SPEAKER_01: Unreal.
3:15:24
SPEAKER_01: Well, there's other videos.
3:15:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, the show must go on.
3:15:28
SPEAKER_02: Oops.
3:15:28
SPEAKER_02: That's very loud.
3:15:29
SPEAKER_02: The show must go on.
3:15:31
SPEAKER_02: Here you go.
3:15:32
SPEAKER_02: He looks like a skeleton with skin.
3:15:35
SPEAKER_01: He looks so bad.
3:15:38
SPEAKER_01: Now, you haven't seen this video, I'm assuming.
3:15:41
SPEAKER_01: No, I haven't.
3:15:43
SPEAKER_01: This is, I believe, after the show, like at the end of the show.
3:15:49
SPEAKER_01: And these two people are literally picking him up and holding him up so he can wave
3:15:58
SPEAKER_01: to the crowd.
3:15:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, my God.
3:16:03
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
3:16:04
[music]
3:16:23
SPEAKER_01: He's up.
3:16:31
SPEAKER_02: You got fucking eight people picking him up.
3:16:34
SPEAKER_02: That's John Stamos over there on his right side.
3:16:36
SPEAKER_02: I know.
3:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Look, he got up.
3:16:42
Everybody clap.
3:16:44
SPEAKER_02: He looks like a Holocaust survivor.
3:16:47
SPEAKER_01: He does.
3:16:51
SPEAKER_01: Looks like he's going to come out of there and he's going to say,
3:16:53
SPEAKER_01: yeah, I ate my neighbor's leg.
3:16:55
SPEAKER_01: I didn't have any fucking food.
3:16:57
SPEAKER_01: Look how thin his legs are.
3:17:04
SPEAKER_01: I can't even imagine how he's been able to travel.
3:17:10
SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine the pain that must...
3:17:13
SPEAKER_01: This guy's bones must fall apart when you hit a pothole.
3:17:18
SPEAKER_01: I...
3:17:20
SPEAKER_02: This is not a healthy man.
3:17:22
SPEAKER_02: No.
3:17:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the last time I saw Jack Russell,
3:17:27
SPEAKER_02: he did the Ground Zero show down in Texas when we had the full eclipse.
3:17:40
SPEAKER_02: He couldn't even get out of his chair.
3:17:43
SPEAKER_02: Who was worse, Jack Russell or this guy?
3:17:46
SPEAKER_02: Both.
3:17:47
SPEAKER_02: They're identical.
3:17:48
SPEAKER_02: Identical.
3:17:53
SPEAKER_02: It's like, what are you doing here?
3:17:55
SPEAKER_02: Even Don asked him.
3:17:56
SPEAKER_02: He says, what are you doing?
3:17:58
SPEAKER_02: And he goes, I got to pay the bills, Don.
3:18:01
SPEAKER_02: I got to pay the bills.
3:18:02
SPEAKER_01: Fuck the bills.
3:18:03
SPEAKER_01: You're going to be on the ground in six weeks.
3:18:05
SPEAKER_02: And he was.
3:18:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:18:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, at that point, who cares about the fucking bills?
3:18:12
SPEAKER_02: What does this guy bring to the show aside from just being part of the Beach Boys?
3:18:17
SPEAKER_01: The only thing I could think of is they literally can't do it without him
3:18:20
SPEAKER_01: and he won't sign off on it maybe?
3:18:24
SPEAKER_01: What a mess.
3:18:25
SPEAKER_01: This is horrible.
3:18:29
SPEAKER_01: All that fun, fun, fun till your daddy took the T-Bird away.
3:18:34
SPEAKER_01: Now daddy's taken what?
3:18:35
SPEAKER_01: His life away?
3:18:39
SPEAKER_01: And we'll have fun, fun, fun till my daddy delivers the casket today.
3:18:44
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
3:18:45
SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
3:18:48
SPEAKER_02: This is just so sad.
3:18:52
SPEAKER_02: If you were the promoter of this, and again, I know money speaks and everything.
3:18:57
SPEAKER_02: It's like, number one, who's going to see the Beach Boys?
3:19:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:19:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've seen the Beach Boys three times.
3:19:06
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
3:19:07
SPEAKER_02: And that was only because they were on tour with Chicago.
3:19:10
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
3:19:11
SPEAKER_01: I've seen them.
3:19:12
SPEAKER_02: That was a popular combo, was Chicago and the Beach Boys.
3:19:17
SPEAKER_01: And they were a big state fair rib cook-off band in the 90s.
3:19:21
SPEAKER_01: I saw them a couple times at different fairs and shit.
3:19:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm not a...
3:19:26
SPEAKER_02: I never...
3:19:27
SPEAKER_02: Really got into them because that was before my time.
3:19:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they were the 60s surf thing, whatever, and I know people love that shit.
3:19:36
SPEAKER_01: They were a little too clean for me.
3:19:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, even to this day,
3:19:41
SPEAKER_02: I admire what
3:19:46
SPEAKER_02: Brian Wilson brought to the stage after watching that Wrecking Crew.
3:19:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
3:19:52
SPEAKER_02: Watching that Wrecking Crew documentary, but...
3:19:57
SPEAKER_02: The music doesn't resonate with me,
3:20:00
SPEAKER_02: but are there enough people in that age group that are going to see the Beach Boys
3:20:05
SPEAKER_02: to go, yeah, I got to go see this, man.
3:20:08
SPEAKER_02: It's the Beach Boys.
3:20:10
SPEAKER_01: I think, one, they do the nostalgia go.
3:20:15
SPEAKER_01: This is probably the last time I'm going to get to see them.
3:20:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but how many people in that age group who grew up with
3:20:22
SPEAKER_02: the Beach Boys are still alive and still going to concerts to go see this?
3:20:26
SPEAKER_01: Well, you're making a good point,
3:20:29
SPEAKER_01: but the only counter I'll have is for those people that are still alive
3:20:33
SPEAKER_01: and whatever, what other acts from that era are still around?
3:20:38
SPEAKER_02: True,
3:20:38
SPEAKER_02: but are people in that age group still heading out to a shed or a venue to go see
3:20:45
SPEAKER_02: the Beach Boys?
3:20:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, this guy here did.
3:20:49
SPEAKER_01: And he's dead.
3:20:53
SPEAKER_01: He came out to perform and he's a corpse.
3:20:57
SPEAKER_02: He really is.
3:20:58
SPEAKER_01: He's literally, he's as dead as you can.
3:21:02
SPEAKER_01: He is literally as dead as you can be while still breathing.
3:21:07
SPEAKER_01: This is a dead man.
3:21:10
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if he's in a coma.
3:21:14
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not even trying to make a silly joke.
3:21:16
SPEAKER_01: I legitimately wonder if this guy's in a coma.
3:21:21
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't seem like he's not in a coma,
3:21:24
SPEAKER_01: other than that big dance move that he did with John Stamos in the other video.
3:21:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and does he even sing any of the songs at all?
3:21:34
SPEAKER_01: He just sits on stage.
3:21:35
SPEAKER_01: I'll bet you anything they put a microphone in front of him and it's not even turned on.
3:21:41
SPEAKER_01: I would bet my house on that.
3:21:45
SPEAKER_01: Because the last thing they want to hear is this guy fucking coughing like he's got
3:21:49
SPEAKER_01: a whooping cough or something.
3:21:51
SPEAKER_01: You're now having a seizure or something.
3:21:54
SPEAKER_01: They're not going to give him a live mic.
3:21:56
SPEAKER_01: He can't even fucking hold a microphone.
3:21:59
SPEAKER_01: Him holding a microphone would be like me and you holding a 300-pound weight.
3:22:05
SPEAKER_02: What I can't get over is how emaciated he is.
3:22:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can look at his jeans and basically see his pelvic bones.
3:22:20
SPEAKER_01: Dude, he probably bought those clothes from a fucking Barbie costume.
3:22:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's wearing Ken clothes.
3:22:31
SPEAKER_01: He's not alive.
3:22:35
SPEAKER_01: This happened, what, two weeks ago or something?
3:22:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, two weeks ago.
3:22:38
SPEAKER_01: And the reaction was so bad that they actually said, that's it for the Beach Boys.
3:22:42
SPEAKER_01: We're done.
3:22:44
SPEAKER_01: As it should be.
3:22:46
SPEAKER_01: Do you think...
3:22:47
SPEAKER_01: Realistically, no joking aside, not looking for a funny line.
3:22:51
SPEAKER_01: Do you think this guy sees the ball drop at 2027?
3:22:55
SPEAKER_02: No.
3:22:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't think so either.
3:22:57
SPEAKER_02: No.
3:22:59
SPEAKER_01: I think we are days away from the end of Mike Love.
3:23:03
SPEAKER_01: In fact, I think we're about six months past the death of Mike Love, if you want the truth.
3:23:09
SPEAKER_02: This truly is Weekend at Bernie's.
3:23:12
SPEAKER_01: This is so horrible, man.
3:23:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, we have contractual obligations.
3:23:24
SPEAKER_01: Well, if I know one thing,
3:23:25
SPEAKER_01: it's that Mike love needs the money because the beach boys,
3:23:29
SPEAKER_01: they didn't make any money over their career.
3:23:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure.
3:23:31
SPEAKER_02: No, they, they weren't the biggest selling artists in American history.
3:23:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:23:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure.
3:23:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure those 60 years weren't profitable.
3:23:41
SPEAKER_02: Who's the top two selling American artists in American history?
3:23:46
SPEAKER_01: Beach Boys and what?
3:23:47
SPEAKER_01: Eagles?
3:23:48
SPEAKER_01: Chicago.
3:23:49
SPEAKER_01: Chicago?
3:23:50
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
3:23:50
SPEAKER_01: Eagles are right there, aren't they?
3:23:52
SPEAKER_02: Well, they're up there, yes.
3:23:59
SPEAKER_01: At least we know this guy will be able to buy a good headstone.
3:24:01
SPEAKER_01: Hell, it's probably already put up.
3:24:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, there you have it, the fucking Beach Boys.
3:24:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:24:10
SPEAKER_02: All the Wilsons are dead, which were the primary guys of the band.
3:24:16
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:24:17
SPEAKER_02: And then there's Mike Love and Bruce Johnson and who was the other guy?
3:24:22
SPEAKER_02: That Bruce Johnson, he's still alive and doing Beach Boys stuff.
3:24:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:24:27
SPEAKER_01: It'll probably be Bruce Johnson's Beach Boys here coming soon.
3:24:33
SPEAKER_02: But I think Mike Love was the one who retained and sued and got the Beach Boys again.
3:24:40
SPEAKER_02: That brand is everything.
3:24:44
SPEAKER_01: Boy, I'll say,
3:24:44
SPEAKER_01: if you can literally wheel a corpse up on stage,
3:24:48
SPEAKER_01: not have them do shit for an hour and a half and then get paid,
3:24:52
SPEAKER_01: I guess that makes sense.
3:24:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this guy did nothing.
3:24:58
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, and again, no joking aside, That first video that I played, Stamos woke him up.
3:25:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he had to go, hey, hey, it's time for you to perform.
3:25:11
SPEAKER_02: And he goes, oh, okay.
3:25:21
SPEAKER_02: And people were still applauding.
3:25:24
SPEAKER_01: Let's wind it back when they stand him up.
3:25:28
SPEAKER_01: I know.
3:25:28
SPEAKER_01: They were just like, yay, he got up.
3:25:31
SPEAKER_01: Yay.
3:25:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean, look, they're literally going to pick him up.
3:25:34
SPEAKER_01: It's not like he stood up.
3:25:36
SPEAKER_01: No.
3:25:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean, look how limp his body is.
3:25:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:25:40
SPEAKER_01: He's a corpse.
3:25:41
SPEAKER_01: He's like an old sack of potatoes just laying there.
3:25:45
SPEAKER_01: And they're going to pick him up and the people lose their shit
3:25:48
SPEAKER_01: over them picking up this dead body.
3:25:51
SPEAKER_01: He's standing.
3:25:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're saying he's standing, but he's not.
3:25:55
SPEAKER_01: They're holding him up.
3:25:57
SPEAKER_01: He's being propped up.
3:25:59
SPEAKER_01: They might as well lean him against this post right in the middle of this fucking thing.
3:26:04
SPEAKER_01: Tie him to it so he won't fall down.
3:26:08
SPEAKER_01: Good God.
3:26:09
SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
3:26:23
SPEAKER_01: I think he fell asleep.
3:26:26
SPEAKER_01: Look, his head's down again.
3:26:28
SPEAKER_01: Or he can't hold his head up.
3:26:30
SPEAKER_01: His head is drooping.
3:26:33
SPEAKER_01: He literally can't hold his head up.
3:26:37
SPEAKER_01: John Stamos, you should be ashamed.
3:26:40
SPEAKER_02: He should be ashamed of himself.
3:26:44
SPEAKER_01: And I know this is not politically correct, but I'm going to say it anyway.
3:26:49
SPEAKER_01: As good as he looks, he should not be standing next to Mike Love here.
3:26:53
SPEAKER_01: Makes Mike Love look even worse.
3:26:56
SPEAKER_01: Got this fucking model standing next to this corpse.
3:27:00
SPEAKER_02: Hey, John, why don't you wheel Bob Saget out?
3:27:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no shit.
3:27:09
SPEAKER_01: Might as well.
3:27:09
SPEAKER_01: Maybe that was the opening act, was an opening set from Bob Saget.
3:27:13
SPEAKER_01: Right.
3:27:14
SPEAKER_01: Could have been.
3:27:15
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
3:27:16
SPEAKER_01: Just wheel him out there.
3:27:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:27:19
SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
3:27:22
SPEAKER_02: What an embarrassment.
3:27:24
SPEAKER_02: Where's that ex of yours that Rebecca Romaine?
3:27:27
SPEAKER_02: What happened to that piece of ass?
3:27:31
SPEAKER_01: That would be worth seeing.
3:27:32
SPEAKER_01: That's a whole lot more worth seeing than this fucking dead guy.
3:27:39
SPEAKER_02: Dead man walking or dragging.
3:27:42
SPEAKER_01: Not walking at all.
3:27:44
SPEAKER_01: He's not walking here.
3:27:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, his head is just like... Watch when he stands up.
3:27:49
SPEAKER_01: His head's up for a second and it falls down.
3:27:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you can really see it real well or not, but watch.
3:27:57
SPEAKER_01: Head's up and it falls down.
3:28:03
SPEAKER_01: His head was up for like a second.
3:28:05
SPEAKER_01: And they're playing We Are the Champions?
3:28:08
SPEAKER_01: What are the champions of?
3:28:10
SPEAKER_01: The Handicap Olympics?
3:28:12
SPEAKER_01: We are the champions.
3:28:15
SPEAKER_01: Woo!
3:28:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
3:28:23
SPEAKER_02: That is the worst.
3:28:25
SPEAKER_02: Look at this.
3:28:25
SPEAKER_02: Look at this guy on the left or on his left.
3:28:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that guy.
3:28:32
SPEAKER_02: Look at him.
3:28:33
SPEAKER_02: He's bracing him.
3:28:41
SPEAKER_01: Because he's got 125 pounds of just dead meat that he's trying to hold up.
3:28:46
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
3:28:52
Look at all the people behind him to make sure he doesn't fall.
3:28:58
SPEAKER_02: Who thought this was a good idea?
3:29:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't even have the video of him.
3:29:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
3:29:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
3:29:12
SPEAKER_01: But I think they literally got embarrassed into retirement.
3:29:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, they should have.
3:29:18
SPEAKER_02: They should have never rescheduled these shows because I know some
3:29:21
SPEAKER_02: of these shows were makeup shows that they had to cancel because
3:29:27
SPEAKER_02: of Mike Love's health.
3:29:29
SPEAKER_02: Right.
3:29:30
SPEAKER_02: And I guess it was getting close to the end of summer and they were just like,
3:29:34
SPEAKER_02: well, we got to go out there.
3:29:35
SPEAKER_02: The show must go on.
3:29:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:29:39
SPEAKER_01: And we'll have fun, fun, fun until Mike Love passes away.
3:29:44
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
3:29:45
SPEAKER_01: And that's what they're doing.
3:29:47
SPEAKER_01: They're trotting him out there, collecting a check.
3:29:50
SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
3:29:53
SPEAKER_01: Frankie Valli or Mike Love?
3:29:55
SPEAKER_01: Who dies first?
3:29:57
SPEAKER_01: Mike Love.
3:29:58
SPEAKER_01: Mike Love?
3:29:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:30:00
SPEAKER_01: I kind of wonder if his countdown isn't on a watch now, not even a calendar.
3:30:05
SPEAKER_02: I mean, at least Frankie Valli could stand.
3:30:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:30:09
SPEAKER_01: True.
3:30:12
SPEAKER_01: Honestly,
3:30:12
SPEAKER_01: Mike Love,
3:30:14
SPEAKER_01: would it shock you if we wake up tomorrow and it's like, Mike Love passed away?
3:30:18
SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't shock me at all.
3:30:19
SPEAKER_02: Not at all.
3:30:23
SPEAKER_02: And then the next thing you know,
3:30:24
SPEAKER_02: we're going to get all kinds of negative comments like, you killed Mike Love.
3:30:30
SPEAKER_02: You guys killed him.
3:30:33
SPEAKER_02: You insensitive pricks.
3:30:36
SPEAKER_02: You were making fun of him and it put him in his grave.
3:30:41
SPEAKER_01: He's not a dead guy.
3:30:44
SPEAKER_01: He has a personality.
3:30:49
SPEAKER_01: Why are you making fun of a human being like that?
3:30:52
SPEAKER_01: Shut up.
3:30:55
SPEAKER_01: Making fun of these people that trotted this dead guy out there and pretended
3:30:59
SPEAKER_01: that he was performing.
3:31:04
SPEAKER_01: This is so bad.
3:31:10
SPEAKER_02: And that's where we'll end the show tonight.
3:31:14
SPEAKER_02: End of an era.
3:31:15
SPEAKER_01: No kidding.
3:31:16
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:31:18
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:31:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, we appreciate everybody who tuned in tonight and put up with our nonsense.
3:31:24
SPEAKER_02: What?
3:31:25
SPEAKER_01: This is the perfect cap.
3:31:27
SPEAKER_01: Wretch in the chat room.
3:31:28
SPEAKER_01: Sebastian Bach, the CMS killed Mike Lava.
3:31:33
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
3:31:36
SPEAKER_01: That ties it all together.
3:31:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
3:31:39
SPEAKER_01: It's great.
3:31:40
SPEAKER_01: You assholes.
3:31:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh, boy.
3:31:45
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3:31:46
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3:31:51
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3:32:13
SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm going to say about that.
3:32:15
SPEAKER_02: And speaking about dead guys,
3:32:18
SPEAKER_02: I think all the members of this band are dead,
3:32:21
SPEAKER_02: including the guy who's singing the song.
3:32:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about Lemmy from the band Motorhead.
3:32:26
SPEAKER_02: He is singing a song called Ramones.
3:32:32
SPEAKER_02: So I'm going to take you out.
3:32:34
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3:32:39
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3:32:44
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3:32:47
SPEAKER_02: Chris Egan.
3:32:48
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