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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Welcome to Steff. I never told your production by I
- 0:08Speaker 2: heard you.
- 0:18Speaker 3: For today's Activists around the World, we are doing an
- 0:22Speaker 3: organization and that's not strange for us, I know, I know,
- 0:25Speaker 3: but this one it's because they made a pretty interesting
- 0:27Speaker 3: decision and we wanted to talk about it. I did
- 0:30Speaker 3: go back and forth about whether or not to do
- 0:31Speaker 3: this as a Monday Mini but I decided to do
- 0:33Speaker 3: it as activists around the World because I think we
- 0:35Speaker 3: need to talk about this as an actual stance and activism.
- 0:39Speaker 3: So we're talking about the American College of Obstetricians and
- 0:43Speaker 3: guy Tocologists or the ACOG. So what we are specifically
- 0:47Speaker 3: talking about is an announcement that happened this month August
- 0:50Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five, that one of the largest OBGYN
- 0:54Speaker 3: organizations in the US has rejected federal funding as a
- 0:59Speaker 3: response to the current governmental policies, so they've decided to
- 1:02Speaker 3: skip away.
- 1:03Speaker 1: From receiving any funds on their own free will.
- 1:07Speaker 3: So just I feel like that's really significant in this conversation,
- 1:11Speaker 3: and it seems that they may be one of the
- 1:13Speaker 3: first medical organizations to have done so, and it's sparking
- 1:17Speaker 3: a lot of conversation. So again I say this as
- 1:20Speaker 3: like an alleged because I think people in organizations and
- 1:23Speaker 3: news organizations and fact checkers are trying to actually go
- 1:26Speaker 3: back through lots of history to see if this has
- 1:28Speaker 3: been done before. But as it stands as of today
- 1:31Speaker 3: again August fifth, twenty twenty five, they're kind of at
- 1:35Speaker 3: the first to reject and do such a thing. So again,
- 1:39Speaker 3: before we talk about the significance of this, let's talk
- 1:42Speaker 3: about the organization in itself. So this is from their
- 1:46Speaker 3: site acog dot org.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Quote.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Founded in nineteen fifty one, ACOG is the premier professional
- 1:52Speaker 3: membership organization for obstetricians at Guynecologists. The college produces practice
- 1:57Speaker 3: guidelines for healthcare professionals and educational materi for patients, provides
- 2:01Speaker 3: practice management and career support, facilitates programs and initiatives to
- 2:05Speaker 3: improve women's health, and advocates for members and patients. And
- 2:09Speaker 3: on their site they go on to state their mission
- 2:11Speaker 3: and vision and core values, which talks about bettering families
- 2:15Speaker 3: and communities that are seeking opgy in care with accessibility
- 2:20Speaker 3: to all, and that is a very big point of
- 2:23Speaker 3: importance for them, and in their core values they respect
- 2:27Speaker 3: and equity as a part of that. And with that,
- 2:29Speaker 3: they also talk about their inclusion of DEI in their practice,
- 2:33Speaker 3: and they are standing firm in that, which it's nice
- 2:36Speaker 3: to see. And though they aren't a perfect organizations, I
- 2:41Speaker 3: think when I was going through trying to figure out
- 2:43Speaker 3: exactly who they were what they were doing, they did
- 2:45Speaker 3: have some controversies and they did come back with like,
- 2:47Speaker 3: this is our response to this, and this and this.
- 2:50Speaker 3: They have worked to push back against this administration, specifically
- 2:54Speaker 3: especially when it comes to.
- 2:55Speaker 1: The downfall of the Roe v ways.
- 2:57Speaker 3: So they were real upfront about how they felt about
- 3:00Speaker 3: as well as the attack on reproductive care at large.
- 3:04Speaker 3: So in twenty seventeen, they were outspoken about the way
- 3:07Speaker 3: the government rescinded a prior ruling that have help actually
- 3:11Speaker 3: women have more access to affordable health care. That is
- 3:14Speaker 3: specific to Title ten. We've talked about this before, go
- 3:17Speaker 3: back and listen to some of our other episodes. But
- 3:19Speaker 3: at the time of the rescinding of the bill, it
- 3:22Speaker 3: cut funding to help people with birth control, breast cancer screening,
- 3:26Speaker 3: and even STD and SDI testing and counseling. Yes, that
- 3:30Speaker 3: was a really targeted attack against planned parenthood.
- 3:33Speaker 1: If you don't remember.
- 3:34Speaker 3: We were very sad and it was caused chaos and
- 3:36Speaker 3: it still has caused chaos. And it should be noted
- 3:39Speaker 3: that Title ten has never been able to be used
- 3:42Speaker 3: for abortion, which is kind of how they were going
- 3:45Speaker 3: after all of this and saying this doesn't need to happen,
- 3:47Speaker 3: this is against the law, you're killing babies. All that
- 3:50Speaker 3: both rhetoric that we are very tired of. But they
- 3:55Speaker 3: were really at the forefront of talking about this and
- 3:56Speaker 3: how they were very much against this and what this
- 3:58Speaker 3: could do to healthcare with the can do to women
- 4:01Speaker 3: and those who need these types of screening.
- 4:04Speaker 1: So it was a lot. So they've been there. They've
- 4:06Speaker 1: been there in.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Twenty thirteen that had a whole other article and whole
- 4:09Speaker 3: of publishing about needing more medicaid access. I'm telling you,
- 4:13Speaker 3: like the things that I've read, they've definitely been on point.
- 4:15Speaker 3: And with the current state of the AHHS and the government,
- 4:18Speaker 3: the ACOG took a fairly significant stance in protesting against
- 4:22Speaker 3: this administration. So this is from an Axios article. They
- 4:26Speaker 3: say quote. ACOG sent an email to members last week
- 4:29Speaker 3: notifying them that it will stop accepting federal funding for
- 4:33Speaker 3: current contracts quote. After careful deliberation, ACOG has made an
- 4:37Speaker 3: organization wide decision to stop accepting federal funding for all
- 4:41Speaker 3: ACOG programs and activities for current contracts. The organization set
- 4:46Speaker 3: in a statement shared with Axios, they want recent changes
- 4:50Speaker 3: in federal funding laws and regulations significantly impact ACOG's program goals,
- 4:54Speaker 3: policy positions, and ability to provide timely in evidence based
- 4:58Speaker 3: guidance and recommendation for care. We remain fully committed to
- 5:02Speaker 3: this critical work and will allocate our own resources to
- 5:05Speaker 3: continue it in a way that is centered on patient's
- 5:08Speaker 3: needs and grounded in evidence. The organization will continue to
- 5:11Speaker 3: engage with the federal government on policy advocacy, ACOG said,
- 5:15Speaker 3: so they're still working.
- 5:17Speaker 1: With the government.
- 5:18Speaker 3: They do talk about that and that they will try
- 5:20Speaker 3: to work with Trump administration, but they don't want to
- 5:22Speaker 3: be tied down by those funds. So there are several
- 5:26Speaker 3: aspects to this decision. Again, it makes it really impactful,
- 5:28Speaker 3: and one of the most noted things is a response
- 5:31Speaker 3: to the HS and Secretary Kennedy's current policies and implementations.
- 5:35Speaker 3: Again from the Axios article quote, ACOG is one of
- 5:39Speaker 3: a few medical associations vocally pushing back against President Trump
- 5:43Speaker 3: and HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior's health policy shifts.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Healthcare during pregnancy has become a flashpoint. Kennedy has removed
- 5:51Speaker 3: the recommendations that pregnant people will get COVID nineteen vaccinations,
- 5:55Speaker 3: and a recent advisory panel to the Food and Drug
- 5:57Speaker 3: Administration casts out on the safety of antidepresses during pregnancy.
- 6:02Speaker 3: ACOG said deav afterward that the composition of the panel
- 6:06Speaker 3: was quote alarmingly unbalanced, and that there's a robust evidence
- 6:09Speaker 3: showing the medications are safe during pregnancy. The American Academy
- 6:13Speaker 3: of Pediatrics has also publicly opposed recent HHS actions. The
- 6:18Speaker 3: group boycotted a June meeting of Kennedy's handpicked vaccine Advisory Committee,
- 6:23Speaker 3: saying a June purge of the panel's seventeen advisory compromise
- 6:26Speaker 3: its credibility. So they were definitely going after this, and
- 6:30Speaker 3: they're making a stance because of all these types of changes.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Something of note as well is that they have been
- 6:36Speaker 3: very vocal about expanding healthcare access for all women, including
- 6:40Speaker 3: expanding and protecting Medicaid for women. Their ACOG Committee Committee
- 6:45Speaker 3: on Healthcare for Underserved Women wrote this opinion quote. Medicaid,
- 6:49Speaker 3: the state federal health insurance program for individuals with low incomes,
- 6:53Speaker 3: serves as a safety net for women throughout the lifespan. Historically,
- 6:58Speaker 3: expansions of Medicaid have been associated with improved access to
- 7:01Speaker 3: healthcare less than laid, obtaining health care, better self reported health,
- 7:05Speaker 3: and reductions in mortality. This Committee opinion has been revised
- 7:09Speaker 3: to emphasize the importance of medicaid to improve women's health,
- 7:13Speaker 3: the history and growth of Medicaid, including the ACA's Medicaid expansion,
- 7:17Speaker 3: and the mechanisms by which changes to the Medicaid program
- 7:19Speaker 3: can occur. It includes relevant examples for each So some
- 7:23Speaker 3: of the recommendations and examples, they include our protections for
- 7:26Speaker 3: Medicaid benefits, extending pregnancy related Medicaid coverage, and of course
- 7:30Speaker 3: it opposes decreasing Medicaid services for women's health. So they're
- 7:34Speaker 3: doing a lot and they've I think this original article
- 7:37Speaker 3: was written I want to say, like two thousand and seven,
- 7:39Speaker 3: so about twenty years ago, and they just reempted because
- 7:41Speaker 3: they're like, no, really, we've been studying this for years.
- 7:44Speaker 3: We know what we're talking about. They need more services,
- 7:47Speaker 3: not less, which is not happening, and if you're wondering,
- 7:51Speaker 3: the response from the administration ranges from the president is
- 7:54Speaker 3: protecting people from un leveled policies like DEI, which in
- 7:58Speaker 3: one article does talk about the fact that they beat
- 8:01Speaker 3: ACOG was not accepting funding because of this.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Specifically they're saying, no, we're going to keep our DEI.
- 8:08Speaker 1: It is important.
- 8:09Speaker 3: And also the administration going, oh good, they're saving the
- 8:11Speaker 3: government money. And not that our listeners need this reminder,
- 8:16Speaker 3: but no, these grant cuts are not giving us money back.
- 8:19Speaker 3: That's that's not how this works. They're redistributing it to
- 8:23Speaker 3: things like funding war funding, private equities and corporations. I know, again,
- 8:29Speaker 3: I'm preaching to the choir, so I know no one
- 8:30Speaker 3: really needs to know that, but just a quick reminder.
- 8:32Speaker 3: If someone were to pop in and be like, what's
- 8:34Speaker 3: this about and they don't know what we're about, there
- 8:36Speaker 3: you go. And I haven't read if any other organizations
- 8:39Speaker 3: are taking these types of stands. Obviously, we did read
- 8:41Speaker 3: one that said that they are literally protested that I
- 8:44Speaker 3: don't know if they're like, no, I don't want the money,
- 8:46Speaker 3: but it is interesting to note who is doing what
- 8:49Speaker 3: during this weird like apocalyptic fill time, and so we
- 8:53Speaker 3: do want to talk about the fact that that is
- 8:54Speaker 3: really important. Now. I think they said they receive around
- 8:57Speaker 3: nine hundred thousand dollars in grand Es So no word
- 9:02Speaker 3: as to how they're reshifting and trying to find funds
- 9:05Speaker 3: that they are depending on this fund so these funds specifically,
- 9:10Speaker 3: So it is something that we need to know. But
- 9:12Speaker 3: it is also good to know that organizations aren't being
- 9:14Speaker 3: bought out and they realize how dangerous these policies really are.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Yeah, and listeners, as always, please let us know if
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