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Mariners streaking, CBA war of words, Brewers RALLY, Lou Gehrig Day · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Fam, it is Tuesday, it's Braun, it's Krats, it's Prazinski,
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  Speaker 1: and it is Luke Eric Day. So every year June second,
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  Speaker 1: when did they start this? I mean, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: spitballing here, but did they have this for you guys
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  Speaker 1: the whole run through, like in terms of doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot for it or no.
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  Speaker 2: No, I never hearing anything about this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Really.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely hyped up a lot more recently, Kratz.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it definitely got bigger.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, red wrist band.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember ever really.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there was you know, ALS Awareness Day or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: but it was never a big deal. It was just
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  Speaker 4: kind of okay, we didn't do anything special for it
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  Speaker 4: that I ever remember.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty twenty one, it says June second, twenty twenty one
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  Speaker 5: is when it started. But I was thinking I was
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  Speaker 5: going to say it started all the way back when I
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  Speaker 5: was with the Phillies, because but the Phillies the ownership
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  Speaker 5: like mister Montgomery and the I'm trying to think who
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  Speaker 5: the other partners were at the time, but I mean
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  Speaker 5: the Milton's were with it. They were very huge into
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  Speaker 5: ALS funding and research and all that stuff, and so
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  Speaker 5: I remember that. That's what we did it every every
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  Speaker 5: year all three years I played there. We had we
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  Speaker 5: had something significant, but I so I was way off.
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  Speaker 5: I thought we did I thought we did something.
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  Speaker 1: So it's you know, today is the day that Lou
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  Speaker 1: Garrig started his consecutive game streak and then also his
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  Speaker 1: passing from ALS. He passed away on this day. There's
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  Speaker 1: the four, the number four decals that'll be warned, so
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  Speaker 1: you'll you'll hear a lot throughout the day in games.
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  Speaker 1: We also have a show that focused on ALS awareness
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  Speaker 1: and its ties to baseball. Near and dear to the
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  Speaker 1: heart of the Kircheins. Tim lost his brother Matt from ALS.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a little clip from their latest episode.
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  Speaker 6: We go to Mount Sat Mary's that day. I'll never
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  Speaker 6: forget this the rest of my life. And when we
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  Speaker 6: get there, Ross gives Matt a ALS I mean a
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  Speaker 6: Catholic University jersey, says Cardinals cross the front and it's
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  Speaker 6: got m Kirkchin number two, which is the number he
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  Speaker 6: wore for four.
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  Speaker 2: Years on the back.
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  Speaker 6: And Matt went to the mound and threw an athletic strike,
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  Speaker 6: just as we thought he would, even though he had
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  Speaker 6: to relearn how to catch a baseball and.
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  Speaker 1: How to release it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's just incredible with those hands.
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  Speaker 6: He looked to his left and by that point, the
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  Speaker 6: entire his entire intimate family, me, daughter's sons, we were
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  Speaker 6: there wearing Catholic University jerseys with M. Kirkchin on the back,
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  Speaker 6: number two. And then he looked further to his left
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  Speaker 6: and the entire Catholic University team, all forty eight players,
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  Speaker 6: were wearing SeeU jerseys with M. Kirkchin number two on
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  Speaker 6: the back. And that's when Matt to me and said,
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  Speaker 6: I can't believe they're doing this for me. What Matt
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  Speaker 6: didn't understand is that they wouldn't do this for anybody
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  Speaker 6: else but him, because he personified what being a great
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  Speaker 6: teammate is. Jeff and I tell people all the time,
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  Speaker 6: the greatest compliment you can pay to anyone in sports
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  Speaker 6: or outside of sports is he's a great teammate. The
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  Speaker 6: worst thing you can say is he's a terrible teammate.
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  Speaker 6: Uncle Matt was the best teammate, which is why they
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  Speaker 6: named an award after him.
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  Speaker 1: That's Simon Jeff there on multiple times a week. It's
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  Speaker 1: really good what they do for the game. Part of
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  Speaker 1: the Ft network. Is this a great game or what?
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  Speaker 1: But if you want that whole episode, it's up. Boot
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  Speaker 1: Shambi is their guest on that one, and I encourage
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  Speaker 1: you to check it out. I gets the emotional that's
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  Speaker 1: is this a great game or what? And also last
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  Speaker 1: thing on the day today, you'll see a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these shirts baseball is the best. That's the classic Sarah
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  Speaker 1: Lang shirt. So I got that a while back. Sarah's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: She is, you know, one of the great faces of
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  Speaker 1: our sport in terms of you know, statistics and research
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  Speaker 1: and also just enjoying the sport. So always shouting out
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  Speaker 1: to Sarah on a day like today. And now let's
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  Speaker 1: charge charge, all right? So AJ yesterday I brought this
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  Speaker 1: up before charge just to give them love and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we'll give them more love at some point this week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it today. The Mariners have won seven straight
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  Speaker 1: and in Seattle they were freaking out for the first
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  Speaker 1: couple of months. I was not. I don't think you worried.
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  Speaker 1: Were you freaking out at the beginning of the season
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  Speaker 1: when you saw what they were doing, or were you like, eh,
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  Speaker 1: this looks good in structure.
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that I kept saying the Mariners are
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  Speaker 4: going to win this division. I just kept saying it
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  Speaker 4: over and over again. I was never I was never
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  Speaker 4: worried because, first of all, I don't think the A's
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  Speaker 4: pitching is there. They can hit, but they give up
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  Speaker 4: a lot of runs. I also feel like the Mariners
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  Speaker 4: are just the best team. They have the experience. I
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  Speaker 4: know they lost Cal Rawley, he wasn't really doing much,
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  Speaker 4: but Rose Reina, Julio the rest of that crew are
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  Speaker 4: doing a lot of things really well. And their bullpen
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  Speaker 4: is the best bullpen in that division for me. Their
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  Speaker 4: starters are the best starters in that division. For me,
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  Speaker 4: it was just a matter of time until they got
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  Speaker 4: it going.
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  Speaker 2: And here they are.
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  Speaker 4: They're in first place, They're hottest fire, and they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Do I think they can win the World Series? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Do I think they can get to the World Series?
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  Speaker 4: They think they can get there. I just I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think they're one of the better teams in the Yale.
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  Speaker 1: I think they can. I mean, they were as close
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  Speaker 1: as you can get last year without getting there, right Kratz,
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  Speaker 1: They went to a Game seven, and for me, you
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  Speaker 1: look at the trade deadline, you had a bat, you
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  Speaker 1: had a high leverage arm. I think they would have
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  Speaker 1: what it takes with the rotation and enough of a
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  Speaker 1: supporting staff on offense. This is also assuming that Cale
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  Speaker 1: comes back and looks like a version of Cal from
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  Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four and twenty five. Doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be a sixty homer guy, But is it a
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  Speaker 1: thirty five homer decent on base clutch hitting catcher who's
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  Speaker 1: also defensively one of the best in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all agreed that it was
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  Speaker 5: going to be the playoffs for them. But the playoffs,
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  Speaker 5: when they're there, they need to hit. They need to
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  Speaker 5: figure out how to hit. Is there tiny bit of
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  Speaker 5: a drop in strikeout rate?
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  Speaker 3: Enough?
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  Speaker 5: Is the fact that is Julio going to be able
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  Speaker 5: to step up in the playoffs? Cal had amazing playoffs
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  Speaker 5: last time. They gotta be able to hit because they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna most likely go up against Right now, you're looking
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  Speaker 5: at the Rays or the Yankees, two completely different things,
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  Speaker 5: two completely different teams, but they both score a lot
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  Speaker 5: of runs. So they have to be able to score runs.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care how good your pitching is, got to score.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: Are they going to get the healthy Brendan Donovan. To me,
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  Speaker 1: I loved that pickup and AJ when he's played, he's hit,
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: you know, he's just he's missed time twice. Now you know.
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  Speaker 1: It went back on the shelf quickly. The returning for
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  Speaker 1: it was about a week eight thirty nine ohps four
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  Speaker 1: fifty two, slug three eighty six on base, Like that
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  Speaker 1: is what you sign up for. When you get Brendan Donovan.
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  Speaker 1: You just need to get them back for the stretch
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  Speaker 1: run right, you get a good second half out of
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Donovan. Always hit, always get on base.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they always That was the one thing about him.
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  Speaker 4: It was never a question whether he could hit or
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  Speaker 4: get on base. That's why they was so valuable and
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  Speaker 4: that's why they went out and got them. It just
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  Speaker 4: it comes down to me to what Krad said, They
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  Speaker 4: got to hit in the postseason. They're gonna get there.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna be They're gonna have their pitching with Gilbert
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  Speaker 4: and Kirby. Castillo's kind of figured it out, Hancock, Miller,
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  Speaker 4: Brian wou There. I mean, they've got pitching and Munios
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  Speaker 4: at the back end, Aspire and the rest of these guys.
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  Speaker 4: They have so it comes on again. Can they hit
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  Speaker 4: enough and can they hit enough to beat a team
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  Speaker 4: like the Yankees with Cole Rodin Freed Schlitzler that that team,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's gonna be. The real question for me is
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  Speaker 4: can they hit enough to beat the Yankees? Because I
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  Speaker 4: think the Yankees and them are probably at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the year going to be the pride of the
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  Speaker 4: American League with the way things look right now.
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  Speaker 5: And if you look at it, the two the guys
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  Speaker 5: that they added, they got Nailer last year at the
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  Speaker 5: break and then they added him back in free agency. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: he's gonna have to step up. All these guys are
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  Speaker 5: going to step up. But I think the big thing
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  Speaker 5: is going to be how does Cole Young look? How
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  Speaker 5: does Cole Emerson look? When playoff time comes around? Are
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  Speaker 5: you leaning on rookies to have big at bats in
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  Speaker 5: the postseason against an older veteran pitching staff lineup like
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  Speaker 5: the Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, we'll see. I mean also, if everything
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  Speaker 1: is intact on playoff time, you'll have some decision making.
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  Speaker 1: I'll run through the offense. While we're looking at the
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  Speaker 1: board here of team stats. So AJ you've got JP
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  Speaker 1: Crawford at short, Julio Rodriguez at center, first base, Naylor
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  Speaker 1: left field or Rose Arena right field, Rayley, and obviously
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: there's some platoon action here, Cole Young at second, Dhsken
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  Speaker 1: Zone Parader. Right now, they've got a couple catchers, Garber
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  Speaker 1: backing up Riley, but Riley will be back, and then
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  Speaker 1: cold Emerson at third. When you get Brendan Donoman back,
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  Speaker 1: that then to me, put some competition on between Cole
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  Speaker 1: Young and cold Emerson in a good way. And also,
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  Speaker 1: come playoff time, you still can have both of them
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  Speaker 1: on the roster and you might just not have one
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  Speaker 1: playing very consistently. That creates some nice depth, little bench
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  Speaker 1: action for the team. To me, the names that I
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  Speaker 1: just listed, when you include cal and Donovan, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a lineup that can get you too a World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Can you add one more bat? You can? Do you
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  Speaker 1: need one? I'm not sure relief pitching wise, and.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where you put it.
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  Speaker 4: Where do you put on that You don't want to stunt.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to stunt your your young guys growth
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  Speaker 4: in Young and Emerson, right, So you're worry about that,
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  Speaker 4: and you already have Donovan who plays third so really
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  Speaker 4: your only spot is second base. You're not gonna get
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: put a guy in front of JP Crawford. Maybe you
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: are right fielder, I guess maybe I mean a Roseerina
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  Speaker 4: and Julio and then you find it everyday right fielder
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  Speaker 4: or dah Canzone was pretty good for him in the postseason.
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: I know he's kind of a platoony guy against lefties,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know where you put a bat. Where
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  Speaker 2: would you put him? That's the question for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Raley and ken Zone right.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's rough Schnyder, it's Ref. Schneider faces lefties, and
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  Speaker 5: so I have a hard time believing the cash strap
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  Speaker 5: Mariners are going to make a.
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  Speaker 3: Big move like that.
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  Speaker 5: They already went out paid Ref Snyder, so they have
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  Speaker 5: their guy to face lefties, and then can Zone's in
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  Speaker 5: there when the rights are out there. So I think
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  Speaker 5: I think the position is d H and I think
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  Speaker 5: it's going to be between those guys of who who
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  Speaker 5: steps up. So a big move, I don't know, Just
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  Speaker 5: because they made a big move last year and they
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  Speaker 5: signed some guys in free agency, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's still the same old Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: We've got another arm. You can always use another high
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  Speaker 1: leverage arm. Guys that it's already a good bullpen I know.
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  Speaker 1: But like for me aj if there's if there's a
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  Speaker 1: high leverage arm, like you know how most years there
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: there's one or two, right, go get that durand that's open.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't need him to be the closer,
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  Speaker 1: but go get a guy who's high leverage if he
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  Speaker 1: is available. Because you've got Munos, Brash, Ferrer's been really
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  Speaker 1: solid for them, Bizardo, Spire, like you mentioned, there's good
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  Speaker 1: names here, but go get another.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they pay the price though. It's kind of what
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  Speaker 4: Crash just said. The Mariners they don't like to do
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  Speaker 4: that a whole lot. They always are they they cry
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  Speaker 4: poor just as good as any other team does. So
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that they would do that. I would
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  Speaker 4: love for them to do it, but I don't know
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  Speaker 4: that they're going to. I think the I think the
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  Speaker 4: Mariners also with the Poto and what he's been through
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of years, he's he likes his teams, man.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: He likes his teams the way he likes his teams,
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: and he sets him up for a certain way and
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: he doesn't love to. I mean, last hear the Suarez
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  Speaker 4: and Naylor, But those positions are filled now, so sure,
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: go out and get another arm. Every team wants another arm.
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  Speaker 4: There's not one team out there that says man, I
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  Speaker 4: wish we had no more pitching. I wish we had
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  Speaker 4: less pitching than what we have. Every team has. Every
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  Speaker 4: team out there, goes Man, and I wish we had
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  Speaker 4: one or two more arms that we could figure out,
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  Speaker 4: but every nobody they're too expensive.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know they'll do it. How about this? How
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  Speaker 2: about this?
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  Speaker 1: I like it? Yeah, you know, it's the one team
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  Speaker 1: that I would kind of rule out because they've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pitching. And actually Emerson Hancock yesterday was
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  Speaker 1: great again too. He's really emerged and found it for them.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if they'll be in the running.
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  Speaker 1: Every team would want them, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: they'll pay the price that other teams are going to
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  Speaker 1: pay that are in much more desperate need of starting pitching. Anyway,
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: there's a lot more Mariners talk. You know, the new
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: show we talked about refused to lose territory, So it's
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: there for you if you'd like more in depth analysis
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  Speaker 1: on this team. Brady Farcas is great. It's part of
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: the ft network. Hey, we're here and there's just a
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: little trade that occurred justin Lawrence going to the Twins
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: for cash. It just gives us a chance to actually
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: talk about the Pirates bullpen with aj who missed both
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: days of the controversy in Pittsburgh. Lawrence, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: twenty three appearances of five three two era Pirates Bullen
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  Speaker 1: has been great. Should be a little better, as they
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  Speaker 1: add Majinski if he wants to, you know, be there.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't right now, but he's gonna have to deal
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  Speaker 1: with it tonight. What did you think we didn't have
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  Speaker 1: you for both of those days? What did you think
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  Speaker 1: of all of that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, so, I mean I missed a lot of it.
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  Speaker 4: But what so they said he's going to the bullpen
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  Speaker 4: and he basically said, no, I'm not going to the bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: Is that kind of the gist of what happened?
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  Speaker 4: He said, you know what we're then we're going to
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  Speaker 4: just put you on this administrative leave for the next
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  Speaker 4: few days and you can think about it.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's like, well, I don't have anywhere else
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  Speaker 2: to go, so I gotta go to the.
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  Speaker 1: Bullpen restricted list where you don't get paid and you
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  Speaker 1: don't get service time, so even more than administratively because
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  Speaker 1: that's usually paid. So they were like, you're not ready
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  Speaker 1: to pitch. This is what we're asking you to do.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: You push the chips back his way and he's like, cool,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pitch on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, okay, well I guess he's gonna pitch on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: This is remember Aaron Savali last year with the Brewers
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  Speaker 4: when he went and said, hey, I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: pitch in the bullpen, and they traded him to the
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  Speaker 4: White Sox and got Andrew Vaughn, who's maybe the Pirates
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  Speaker 4: go on and trade him. I don't know what they're
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  Speaker 4: going to do with him, But you didn't. You don't
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  Speaker 4: have a choice. As much as you want to fight
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  Speaker 4: this and say this and that, he didn't have a choice.
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  Speaker 4: If they want to pitch at the bullpen, you know
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  Speaker 4: how you get back in the rotation. You go pitch
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  Speaker 4: really well in the bullpen, and then you get yourself
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: a chance to go pitch in the starting rotation again.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I blame somebody around the pirate you're a starter.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Say it all right. Pirates don't want to trade him,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: they want starting pitching deb for sure, A J I
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: almost did a double take when I saw the email
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: and realized it was Player of the Week, not Picture
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: of the Month, but the highly debated who should win
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Picture of the Month Christopher Sanchez or miss topic. Is
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the first time I can remember any conversation really about
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: who's winning a monthly award in our sports. So that
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: part is cool, but that hasn't come out yet. Christopher
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Sanchez wasn't mentioned on the noteworthy performances. Did he only
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: have one start last week? Is that part of it too? Krats?
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: He pitched in the middle of the week, so maybe
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: that's part of it. But anyway, miss one picture or
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Player of the Week in the National League for what
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: he's doing. Who's your Picture of the month?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Aja Sanchez?
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: You didn't give up one run the whole month? How
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: can you even This shouldn't even be a debate. He
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: didn't give up one run the whole month. That should
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: be easy. He should be the Picture of the month.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: The miss gave up twenty less hits than Christopher Sanchez
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: and he gave up one run.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: One.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: You know how rare it is to go a month
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: and not give up a run.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: You never know rare it is to give up one
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: and give up twenty less hit, give up zero, twenty
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: less hits than the other guy.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Less walop.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Miss, he's gonna be our age, more strikeouts, He's gonna
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: be your ace, but zero runs wins for me.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Ah, sorry, I love, I love Christopher Sanchez. What he's
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: doing was absolutely dominant the miss. I heard you guys
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: discussing it yesterday. Sorry, I gotta go with the miss.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: I gotta go my Milwaukee love, my Homer Philly or
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: my Homwerk Milwaukee love. Either way, Dude, dudes were dominant,
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: but the mis gave up twenty.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I think it was twenty three less hits. That's crazy.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: The innings were within like an inning. I think it
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: was like thirty nine and thirty eight to thirty or
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: something like that, so you can't really make much of
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: a distinction there. I like the debate and hearing this
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: from you guys, AJ, can you agree to disagree that
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: if somebody is coming from the miz section, you can
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: see where they're coming from.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Listen, Polish people, we always we stick together so I
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: totally understand it. I totally get it. But it just
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: zero runs in a month. There's a lot of great
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: pitchers that had great months in the National League. Apparently
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: nobody can hit in the National League. They can just
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: really pitch. But to me, if you go a whole
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: month and give up zero, I don't care how many
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: hits you give up, that means you figured out a
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: way to get out of all those jams.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: To me, it's just it's just I don't know.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: It's it's hard for me to look at a guy
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: and say, hey, you've given up zero runs a month
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: and you don't win Pitcher of the Month because that
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: never happens.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: That's what he said.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: That's what he said. All right, so let's get into this.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: We've got the back and forth with the league slash
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: owners and the players. We have more quotes from the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: players Association side. Tomorrow we will get quotes from Rob Manfred.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: We either will get them for that show or the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Thursday show if it comes out after the fact. As
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the owners are meeting up. We're very far away from
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: anything really happening. But as in my mind, a show
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of record. They let you know everything going on in
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the game that you'd see as the major headlines. This
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: is what we'll do. We'll give you the quotes on
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: this side and the MLB response to and let's talk
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: through it. So let's run through them and then I'll
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: read them, Gab. You can kind of roll straight through
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: so we can set the tone. It's kind of like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: chronologically running through the week here, starting with last week,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: where you know both sides sent in their initial proposals
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that will look nothing like what we see at the end.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Bruce Meyer, who leads the PA, met with reporters yesterday
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and he said on the league's first proposal last week,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: quote very surprised. I mean I thought they would try
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: harder to make it look good and they didn't even
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: do that. And then here's Jesse Rodgers with another quote
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: from him, Bruce Meyer talking about the Padres as an
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: example for all teams, quote, we want to encourage more
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: San Diego. San Diego is a small market team that
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: went out, decided to compete, signed a lot of players,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: turned around their franchise. They are successful, they've grown attendance,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: they've grown interest, and we've all seen the explosion of
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: their franchise value. One more from Bruce and then we'll
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: get the reply from MLB on the fifty to fifty
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: ReBs split, he said, it's not even a real fifty percent.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: It's taking billions of dollars off the top before they're
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: proposing to even share any of that in terms of
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: player share. What counts against players share and their proposal
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: is everything salaries, of course, all forms of benefit, other
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: things of value, things like moving costs and the cost
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of translators. All of that gets counted against player share,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: and most importantly, most significantly, amateur signing bonuses, which is
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: some thing you really don't have an analog to in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the other sports that have salary caps. MLB immediately coming
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: out with a response, and again Rob Manford will have more,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sure in a day. So Bob Nightingale putting out
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: this quote from Glenn Kaplan, one of the pr dudes
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: on the MLB side, said, our salary cap and floor
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: proposal addresses our fans concerns by leveling the playing field
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: while sharing baseball revenue with the players fifty to fifty.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Like the other leagues, under our proposal, major League players
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: will receive more compan year one of the system than
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. We are ready to listen if
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the MLBPA wants to counter our proposal at the bargaining table. Yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: let's do Alex Wood too, and then we'll jump back
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: in here. Alex Wood, former Big leaguer, likes to tweet.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: He said, all MLB has to do to quote level
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the playing field is force all revenue sharing teams to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: spend their revenue sharing on talent. That was the original
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: purpose of revenue sharing. Revenue sharing teams have taken advantage
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: of the system and MLB currently can't do anything about it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Mike drop.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: True, how much money did the Pittsburgh Pirates get in
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: revenue sharing last year?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I'll find out for you. I'll find out for you.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: How much did they spend on players?
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: That's the question. How much money did the million dollars?
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: How much one total? One hundred and one? They crashed
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: over one hundred million dollars threshold at one hundred and one.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: How many did the marrow? How much did the Marlins
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: get last year?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I can only type so fast.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Well, while he's doing that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: These are just sorry, these are just legitimate questions.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I have because then also the other side of it is,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: you know, we had David Sampson on and he said,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: you know, there's different ways of calcula Why is there
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: a different way to calculate how money?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: It's money? Right?
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Unless someone's trying to hide something from someone else, can't
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: you just say we made this much money and we
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: spent this much money, and then there's the pensions and
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: there's all these other things that did we have to
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: spend money on? I don't That's what I don't understand
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: is the fifty to fifty al Right, So then if
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I'm the players go and say we want sixty percent
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: of the revenue, you know what the owners are going
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: to say, not fair, not fair, not fair. It's fifty
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: to fifty no matter what. And then they'll figure out
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: a way to hide money. And listen, I don't like
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: this from either side. I hate that they're fighting publicly,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: but now it's become a pr battle and it sucks.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: It sucks.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to talk about this for the next
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: however long.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Obviously, this is the part where players get hamstrung because
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: they do see the books. They see all the books,
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: but they're not allowed to discuss it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: It's part of the.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Collecutively bargained and antitrust stuff. But they do see the books.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: So if the players see the books and react the
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: way that they do, this is why they're reacting the
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: way they do, and they're encouraging others to spend more.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: The Pirates, according to AI, receive eighty five to one
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: hundred million dollars annually in revenue sharing and their payroll
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: is one hundred and one million dollars, So showing you
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: that essentially the payroll is taken care of by revenue sharing.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: And I know Pittsburgh fans, they come out, I know
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: this team makes other money other than revenue sharing, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: that's what it says. And the biggest thing is that
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I want to say before we get into any more
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: of these conversations us here on foul Territory, we are
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: ex players one hundred percent, but we are currently baseball fans.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Baseball fans want parody in the game. We want competition
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: in the game. That's what you want. If everybody gets
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: a trophy, then we're just gonna we're just gonna do
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: away with the World Series and everybody just has a
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: regular season and it's a cool, cool price. We want competition,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: and players want competition. Owners do not want competition, And
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: fans that sit here and side with owners need to
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: make sure that they understand that owners want money. They
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: do not want parity. They want franchise values to increase.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: And when the first response from mister Kaplan is we
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: hear what our fans want and that's what we're going after,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: that is not true. That is not what their central
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: focus is. They are using you in that direction. And
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: I truly believe if you listen to what we have
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: to say and listen to what everyone else has to say,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: that the players are more on the fans side than
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: the fans would think.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: And also when the league says, hey, we're gonna do
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty, I'm on the same page. Do the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty on the TV money.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: In college football, you don't get to just play teams.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: You have to pay those teams to play them, because
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you know the one team's making all the money off
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of it, right, I mean, you know that world better
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: than I do. AJ fall in college football you can't
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just play and the other team doesn't get anything. You know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: often there's big money exchanges for teams to play against
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: other teams. Otherwise you wouldn't have competition. But that doesn't
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: so you can share money. That's always been a thing
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that the increase of sharing money should be happening. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the problem is you had distrust because they created that
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: without any lever to actually spend the money. The Padres example,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you can fight it all you want to say, Oh,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: they were in some debt, they sold for ridiculous amount
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: of money. They invested in their team, they made some
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: mistakes on players they invested in, but they made some
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: huge hits and they're an absolute vibe. They dominate San
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Diego because they invested in the team in every way right.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: They invested in the way that they operate their ballpark,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: their marketing, their player payroll, the whole deal. And they
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: are small baby. They make nothing on their local TV money,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: just about nothing. So oh my gosh, the Padres would
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: have even more of an advantage if they get to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: split local TV money with everyone else. So yeah, I mean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you would definitely help out the Padres significantly, not that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: they need help. They've been competitive, I know, they haven't
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: won a World to just.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: The only thing that was able to be done. Was
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: a grievance.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Remember we talked about the grievance with Sacramento and we
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: talked about the I know they're fake, that's the thing.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: There's nothing they could do. Pittsburgh allegedly had a grievance
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: right where. That's why they went out and spent money
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: this offseason because the players were saying, but if the
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: numbers Errickers is saying is true seventy five to one
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: hundred million and their payroll is one hundred and one million,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: where's all the rest of the money go? The tickets?
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Because they're they're they're doing all right tickets this year.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I know they don't make that much in let's say
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: they make thirty million. I'm throwing a random number out
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: there off their TV okay concessions, parking.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Tickets, what else for merchant.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: National TV money split?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Where's all that money go? I mean, Fox pays a
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: lot of money to broadcast the World Series every year,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: NBC paid money to get the NBC Sunday Night Game.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things. ESPN paid for MLB TV.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: We knew that was in one hundred millions. So every
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: team gets, you know, let's say ten million dollars. Where
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: does all that money go to? That's that's that's the
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: thing I think that players get annoyed about and and
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: is it fair? I don't know, But where does that
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: money go to besides in someone's pocket.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Just google Mark Cuban about the Pirates and Bob Nutting
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and you'll learn a lot from a former owner who
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: is I would say, pretty transparent. Just google what he
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: said about a year ago and you'll learn a lot
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: about what internal fights have been going on. Yeah, at
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, right, I want to competition too.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I think they need to share. They should have been
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: sharing for a while now. It's created a perfect storm
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: here so people can say whatever they want. We're gonna
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: keep coming.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Created the storm.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: People want to ask about it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I know I'm on the players side, but it's a
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: creative storm the owners want. Because when you go on
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: your social media and you go on and you talk
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: to fans, most fans are on the owner side. They've
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: won the public the pr battle already. No matter what
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: the player's saying, the players don't say hardly anything, whether
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: it's the PA, a player, or anybody because everyone's so
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: scared to say anything but it just sucks. It's a
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: bad situation for both sides. In the fact, again, the
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: baseball is in the spot that it is, but as
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: popular as it is from high school to college to
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: the minor league to independent baseball to the major leagues,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: and we're having to have this conversation for the next
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: however long. It's just a sad situation.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry it is. It's sad that we have to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: pay attention to this and it's going to be a problem,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a huge problem. So we're only that it's Oh, it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: both sides, for sure, both sides. They both create ridiculous
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: proposals to say, we're not even going to have a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: real combo until February and you're gonna miss spring training.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: It's just a real thing. Hey day. Remember when we
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: covered this last week and Tony Bitello was talking about
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: how they might make a change at third base coach.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: They did. They brought in Gary Pettis, the VET formally think.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: That's going to make a difference? Crossed answer me, do
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you think that's gonna make a third base coach? I
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: love GP. No.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: GP was one of my favorite coaches I ever played for.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I had him in Texas for a year. He was awesome.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: But do I really think this is going to make
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: a difference in the Giant season? They finished because Borg
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: got a couple guys thrown out of the plate more
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: than any I mean, wave him home, Windel Wendell Kim
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: for the dang Red Sox forever in the Cubs, he
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: was a legend because he waived everybody.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Joey Korra, you know what, you can't hit, Guess what
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: you gotta do.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: You gotta try to score more runs, so you send
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: more guys, you take more chances.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: How about that? How about we talk about that?
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: How about we talk about the fact that if you've
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: never been out of third base waving a dude at home,
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: you're thinking, as the guy's rounding the bag, you go,
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: who's up, six, seven, eight of our order? I know
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: what they're hitting. I think we're gonna go. I think
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: we're gonna send them. You never know, make him make
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: the play like you have to make those evaluations. So
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: bad for him, great for GP, though, I love GP
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: and the fact that they brought They brought Ron out
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: of somewhere in the Giants, you know, out of Oracle Park,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: like I'm sure he just hangs out with the team
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: and they just put a uniform on him until GP
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: could get done.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Is golfing his golfing lesson that he was getting.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Ron wtis Ron wotis Team Poland
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: coaching staff, Huge Pollock, No Ski Ron Motis, he'll be
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: on the coaching staff. Don't you worry.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: He is just stuck in Oracle Park. He's just kayaking
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: all around the Oracle Park. Yes, he will not leave,
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: he will not leave. Him and boat just together.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I had whattas as the coach when I was there before,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: way before, way before boach. But what has been there
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: for the Highland. He's the one who came up with
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: my nickname. Him and Mark Gardner. They used to call
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: me the Cooler. I told you all that because we
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: were in Puerto Rico at the casino and Mark Gardner
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: was winning and I just walked over and go, what's up, Guardian?
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: He lost all his money and I was like, I
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: shouldn't have said some of the things about me, should
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: you guardy? Now they called me the cooler the rest
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: of the year. Roots is best.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Ron Wadas is the Highlander. You look at him year
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: after year. He never ages, never ages.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: By the way, do you guys like water in a box?
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Can you have to get the worst taste ever? Scott?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Plastic?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: You only like it in plastic?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: This is paper.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: No, I know that, but I'm saying I said, can
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you don't like water in a can?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Tastes like metal?
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Sometimes they need to have a better They didn't have
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: a better spout on the paper, Martin, I don't like
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  Speaker 5: to spout.
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• 31:34
  Speaker 1: is a dangerous precedent set by raised players to sign
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a baseball when a fan throws it back from the seats.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I know this is a thing, you know for fans
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: in some ballparks, but AJ your thoughts here, you know what,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that's a last right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I don't love incentivizing this.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I don't love incentivea But we saw Hacy Sanchez get
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: hurt the other day, which was a listener standing. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: remember I did a game a few years ago at
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Fenway where John Carlos Stanton hit a homer and the
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: fan chucked and hit him when he was round in
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: second base.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: This isn't a press I mean, listen and Wrigley. I
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Most fans can't throw it far enough to hurt anybody,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: especially from the outfield.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: But I don't why are.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: We rewarding one of the biggest things we always say
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: is don't throw stuff on the field, don't come on
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: the field. So now the rais are saying, here's a
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: base signed baseball. You threw a ball in the field.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Like cool, dude, Like, I don't know, I don't think.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I don't think this is a great precedent. But hey,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: it's the rays they do. They do it the rainway
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: down there.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: I like, I like incentivizing fans to have a connection
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: with the players, throwing objects back at him if somebody's
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: not looking at it hits something like, that's so ridiculous
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: that somebody got hurt.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: The Phillies.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: You catch a home run ball, they come to you,
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: They get the home run ball, and you can keep
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: it as a player in exchange for something else, or
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: no of my guys are like whatever, Like I don't
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: want the home run, my seventh home run of my career. Like,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: you sign it, you give it back to fan, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: or they mail it back to the fan.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I think that's a cool thing to do. We don't
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: need to throw it onto the field.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: We don't need we don't need to reward objects being
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: tossed at players.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: But but when it's the opposing team hitting a homer,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that's where fans feel like they need to show their
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: might and throw the pitch back. Yeah. I think that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: act is soft and tired. There's certain there's certain acts
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: in baseball, and I think we're gonna get into another
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: one later on that. I'm just like, Okay, we've seen
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it for a long time. What else you got?
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I'm keeping it. I catch a home run ball, I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: keeping it, I'm putting it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I'm giving it to a kid.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, give it to a kid.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: You caught a home run ball, you don't want it,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: give it to a kid. Okay, unless it's like you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: what about.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I got kids, when I got kids, Scott, what if
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I got kids?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give it to your kid. That's fine, a kid.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: It could be your kid.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: But if my kid's not at the game, I got
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: kids at home.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: That you can bring it home to them. That's a kid.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It's still a kid.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: It's my birthday. Give me a ball.
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  Speaker 1: Bottom of the screen. Let's talk games. Let's start with
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the Brewers destroying the Giants. Who the Brewers. They can
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: put together some rallies. They really can get after you
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and you look up and it gets out of hands
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: very quickly. It was too nothing, wasn't it too nothing? Right?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: It was too nothing. San Francisco scored first in this one. Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: What they do is they just hit, hit, hit, hit, walk,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: hit by pitch, walk, stolen base, extra base, first, the
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: third hit hit, hit, hit, next thing you know, you're
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: down seven to two and you're going just happened. This
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: happened in about three minutes. So yes, the Brewers are
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: really good about this. They can put some they can
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: put some pressure on the other teams, and if you're
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: not prepared for it, man, they can make you cunt.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Your head spin really fast.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: People say all the time that home runs are rally killers,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: and the Brewers scored sixteen runs yesterday, zero homers. They
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: did not want to kill the rally. And it's exactly
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: what AJ just said. Triple clears, the bases, double now,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: second and third, not afraid to get a sack, fly in,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: score another run. Like it's just how they do it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: And it's it's suffocating to teams who can't figure out
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: how to well, we can't strike these guys out.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: What do we do? Oh crap, I have nothing to
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: go to.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: But by the way, when people say when people say
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Scott homers or rally killers, I agree with that to
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: a certain extent, because if you're down five runs and
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: you got first and second and the pressure's mounting on
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the pitcher and you're late in a game.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: No I'm talking in eighth, ninth inning, when you.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Don't have a lot of opportunities, and a guy hits
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: a three run home and you're like, yeah, we're still
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: down two. Oh crap, we're still down too. It's it
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: is yes, everyone gets all hyped and excited.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Oh we hit a home run. We're but you still
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: are down too.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Whereas if let's say that guy hits a double and
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: then you just more and the pressure just keeps mounting
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: and mounting. There are times when home runs can be
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: rally killers. And it also gives the picture a chance.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Oh the guy's trot around the base is who We're
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: still winning. I used to tell guys that are like there.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: We'd be we'd have innings and we'd be up five
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: or six and we give up two or three, and
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: the picture would come in and be all like for me, like, hey,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: by the way, we're still winning, So everybody cheer up.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: It's okay to give up runs. Just don't give up
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: the winning run. That's the biggest thing. That's it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Every time we talk about a team like Milwaukee, or
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the Rays in the moment, I'm
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: now just gonna have it burned in my head. Go
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: get school boy, give the number one dog if he
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: comes back healthy. You just dream about one of those scenarios.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Go for it. Okay, next up, because AJ loves this
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and oh perfect, our next guest not yet, but Aaron
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Ashby on the show. We'll talk about this topic. We
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: barely ever cover it. AJ. Jacob de Gram's one hundredth
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: win yesterday for the Rangers in a two to one victory.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Men's don't matter who cares.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It's cool number then all right, anyway, moving on cool number.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Listen, it's cool.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: But one of the big debates is Jacob de Grom,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer. He's got a hundred wins, one
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: hundred not even like okay, we get to two hundred.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but one hundred wins. It's cool for him,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: But there's a long list of guys that has one
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: hundred wins. Not as dominant as Jacob deGrom, but there's
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: a long list of guys that got one hundred wins.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Did you watch what was it the one year where
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: he freaking I don't even know if he got double
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: digit wins and he had like a two ERA and
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the Mets never scored for him. I mean that stuff
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: does happen, or they would score and then bullpen would
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: blow it in the ninth Anyway, Michael McGreevy, who was
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: matching up against him, took a screenshot of the pitching
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: matchup in the morning. He said, I try not to
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: worry about what the other picture does, but I mean,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: it's hard not to think, like, dang, that's the Grom.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that candor krats him, pointing out how big
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of a deal it was to face the Gram. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it's not like he got shell. He pitched well. His
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: team just couldn't crack the Grom and the bullpen.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Look, I mean, look at mcgreevy's age. The Grom's thirty six.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Mcgreevy's watched this guy maybe two grounds, thirty seven, thirty
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: eight Ibby Mabe.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: He looks so young. He looks so young, but like
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: he watched this guy.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Yes he's still and he's still, as Todd says, a beast,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: but there is like the Hall of Fame discussion I
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: get it, it's gotta be there, but it would be
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, it would be Hall of Fame changing
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: in the sense of like what Hall of Famers have
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: been in the past compared to what they are now.
• 39:02
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• 39:58
  Speaker 1: had a fully healthy career and this account Hawkham said,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you can't say Derek Rose. We're talking baseball, So who
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: has one?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Brian Taylor? Brian Taylor. You guys know who Brian Taylor is.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Nope, first overall pick Yankees hurt his shoulder in a
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: weird accident, weird thing whatever, you have to google it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: But he was supposed to be the left handed just
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: a god through one hundred is a lefty.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Didn't work out, got hurt, never really made it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Brian with an E. If people are looking it up.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I just found that first overall, nineteen ninety one.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: M Jean Carr, I'll go. I'll go a little bit higher,
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Gean Carlos Stanton. If he doesn't get hurt, what kind
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: of home run numbers? Out of a prolific home run
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: hit already he's gonna get five hundred in his career?
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: How many does he have? And then I go like
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: the quintessential, like Ken Griffey Junior. If he doesn't get hurt,
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: does he have the all time home run record?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: What about Mike Trout the last five years his career's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: not done yet.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: That's like saying Chris Sale. Like Chris Sale and Mike
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Trout kind of went through like injury time in the
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: middle are they still like Chris Sales now put himself
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame had he not come back
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: from those injuries.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Different.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trapp's already Hall of Famer. The question is just
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to picture if there's a fully healthy career. So my
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: point was, if you had the last five years healthy
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: for Trout, you know, he's he like a top ten
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: player ever, top ten career ever.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: He could be in top five if you're talking about
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: like one hundred plus war if you're talking about five
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: hundred homers, however, many bags, three hundred plus steals. Yeah, obviously,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: but I still think he's got time. So that's why
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't put him in there.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: No, that's fine, Yeah, I mean you picked the current players.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Johan Santana, remember he was really good then he got hurt.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: I mean with two cy youngs. He was rolling through that,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: come through that no hitter for the Mets, and through
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: like one hundred and forty pitches.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: It was never the same after that. I don't know.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Listen, there's a ton of guys you could say if
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: they didn't get hurt, if they didn't this didn't happen,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: and that, I mean, it's it's such a you know,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: but it happens.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Stuff happens. That's why. That's why I think.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Eric and I try to explain how hard it is
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: to be a long term Major League baseball player because
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: people get hurt all the time.
• 42:30
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