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Jaguars Happy Hour: Tuesday, November 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, November two. This is Jeff Bars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: And now a guy who's willing to change his name
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Speaker 1: jam Meta for a price. J Pace Shad. I'll do
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Speaker 1: a lot of things for a price, and welcome in.
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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick Jeff Loghman coming up.
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Speaker 1: We've got a busy show head, of course, busy two
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Speaker 1: hours I had, in fact, Jaguars Happy Hour. Here at
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Speaker 1: four o'clock, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghman joins US Eats Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: will recap week eate. We'll put a bow on thirty
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Speaker 1: one to seven Seahawks over the Jaguars, and then we'll
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Speaker 1: look ahead to Week nine. It's the NFL. No games
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Speaker 1: are easy, but this one's really tough. The Bills are
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Speaker 1: coming to town. The top team one of well, you
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Speaker 1: could argue to the top team the a FC right now,
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Speaker 1: the top scoring offense, the number one overall defense, the
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Speaker 1: most takeaways in the league. The Bills come here. We'll
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Speaker 1: take an early look at that one, and then at
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Speaker 1: five o'clock, Jaguars radio network coverage begins with the Urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer Show. From five to six, Head coach Irman Meyer
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Speaker 1: will join us. We'll get his final thoughts on the
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Speaker 1: lawstin Seattle and some of the early work looking ahead
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Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills. Jeff Logingman with us. Now, good
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Speaker 1: afternoon to you. Jeff. What's up man? It's all good,
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Speaker 1: j P. It's all good except for the film that
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Speaker 1: is not good. It's mostly good except for the film
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Speaker 1: was It was a tough game, and uh, you kind
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Speaker 1: of got into uh. I think you know, the the
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Speaker 1: bye week, Doldrum's coming back, trying to find your groove
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Speaker 1: of coming back, and then you got a west coast trip.
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Speaker 1: You put those two together, and I think you can
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Speaker 1: have a recipe for poor performance. And that's exactly what
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Speaker 1: they had. Why is that? I mean, it's a bye week.
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Speaker 1: You should come back refreshed and ready and and eager
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Speaker 1: to go. You got guys coming off the injury list,
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Speaker 1: and and let's go, let's play some ball. Why is
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Speaker 1: the theory that sounds great? But the reality is is
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Speaker 1: that when you encounter a bye week, sometimes you get
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Speaker 1: healthy and you get better. But it's not like this
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Speaker 1: team was beat up that much before the bye week.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is is that you get out of
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Speaker 1: your routine and so sometimes when you get out of
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Speaker 1: your routine, you're like, Okay, you have a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a hard time finding your groove. And then next
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Speaker 1: thing you know, you're traveling to the West Coast on
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Speaker 1: a Friday, and now the routine is even disrupted a
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Speaker 1: little bit more because you're traveling on a Friday, and
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Speaker 1: so it's just different. And uh, I had had a
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Speaker 1: bad feeling about this game, and it came to fruition.
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Speaker 1: The offense struggled, the defense struggled, and the penalties came
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Speaker 1: back as well. Miscommunication return. That was a real key
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Speaker 1: back in the week one loss, of course to Houston.
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer addressed it all on Monday. We also had
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Speaker 1: turnover and the turnover is negated by a penalty. Just
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Speaker 1: lack of discipline, sloppy play. You have the twelve men
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Speaker 1: issue where one penalty and one time out. You know
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Speaker 1: I needed that, We needed that time out, So we
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Speaker 1: have to get that correctedtors I was really upset about that.
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Speaker 1: I should never happen. Um, So we addressed that today.
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Speaker 1: UM and that offense. You had the delayed games, which
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Speaker 1: is very uncharacteristic of Trevor and and so we just
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Speaker 1: got to give them more opportunities to practice and and uh,
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Speaker 1: and get the plays in faster. I mean, it's accumulative.
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Speaker 1: It's not just Trevor, it's you know. And then also
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Speaker 1: the substitution of receivers would cause to that as well.
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Speaker 1: So so you just, yeah, I'm very upset about that.
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Speaker 1: That's that's not winning football doesn't have twelve penalties. Twelve
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Speaker 1: penalties ninety three yards. And as you heard him discussed there,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll we'll ask him about this and
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Speaker 1: the Rban Meyers show coming up a little later and
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Speaker 1: see if they've delved into a little further. The twelvemen
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Speaker 1: on the field followed up by nearly another twelvement on
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Speaker 1: the field before the snap, they had to call a
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Speaker 1: time out to avoid a second one in a row. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's there's no there's no excuse, man. And and here
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Speaker 1: here's the reality he talked about. Urban talked about the
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Speaker 1: turnover that was negated by a penalty. I don't think
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Speaker 1: Gino Smith throws that ball unless he realizes that penalty.
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Speaker 1: So in reality, it's not like he really got to
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Speaker 1: take away. So Gino is being aggressive. He knows that
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Speaker 1: he's got Caleb and Chays on off side Aaron Rodgers, Right,
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Speaker 1: So I mean that's not that's not really a fair
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Speaker 1: assessment of that. But I think the disappointing thing is
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Speaker 1: that you had too rough in the passer calls where
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Speaker 1: you finished the quarterback into the into the turf. They
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Speaker 1: were the right call, totally correct calls according to the rules.
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Speaker 1: J Davon Hamilton and John Ward totally guilty. You got
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Speaker 1: a taunting penalty by Ray Shawn Jenkins. That's the second
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Speaker 1: one I think of the year. It is so uh,
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Speaker 1: twelve men on the field back to back, no excuse
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Speaker 1: for that. I think the disappointing thing is that throughout
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Speaker 1: the game you had kind of something bad happened, whether
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Speaker 1: it be every offensive series is or every defensive series,
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Speaker 1: and you had a couple of series where something bad
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. But I make notes during the game, and
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Speaker 1: you've got the roughing call on Devon Hamilton's you had
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Speaker 1: a uh two drives later, the interception by Digs. They're
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Speaker 1: very talented safety. By the way, he's a really good
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Speaker 1: football player. Because he had a miscommunication by Tavon Austin
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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. Then you have a taunting by Rayshawn
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Speaker 1: Jake and right on downs, you've got twelve been on
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Speaker 1: the field twice, which also has Caleb and Chays on
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Speaker 1: all sides on that same drive. I mean, there's just
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Speaker 1: so many different things that that you go, what are
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Speaker 1: you what are you doing? I mean, it's just a
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Speaker 1: lot of noise. It's a bad day at the office,
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Speaker 1: There's no two ways about it. And it's one that
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Speaker 1: you certainly say bad performance by the players, and then
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Speaker 1: you also have to say that's not a very good
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Speaker 1: performance by the coach staff either. And and I'll say
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Speaker 1: this the thing that I did not like at the
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Speaker 1: end of the game, score a touchdown, you kick the
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Speaker 1: extra point, and then you go for two. And I
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Speaker 1: know that coach talked about it in this press conference
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Speaker 1: and said that, look, it was an opportunity at getting
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Speaker 1: reps on that. Let me just say this about that,
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Speaker 1: when you score a touchdown, you go for two, So
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Speaker 1: then it still can be and if you get that,
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Speaker 1: then you can still keep it a two possession game.
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Speaker 1: It's a sixteen point game, rights, so then you can
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Speaker 1: go for the onside kick, you don't kick the extra point,
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Speaker 1: still have a three possession game, and then choose to
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Speaker 1: do the onside kick because you want to practice it,
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Speaker 1: because here's the reality, that's the most dangerous playing football
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Speaker 1: is the onside kick. You don't practice the most dangerous
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Speaker 1: playing football because you want to try it out, or
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Speaker 1: you want to try to steal another possession on offense.
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Speaker 1: If you're gonna if you're gonna do that, you have
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Speaker 1: to go for two before that. If you make it
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Speaker 1: going for two, then you go for the onside kick.
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Speaker 1: And if you get it, okay, if you don't, if
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Speaker 1: you don't convert the two point conversion, then you do
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Speaker 1: not attempted on side kick just to steal possession. It
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Speaker 1: becomes absolutely for no reason at that point, okay, I mean,
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Speaker 1: and guys are putting their bodies out there, and it's
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Speaker 1: probably why JP. You know, it's probably why he had
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Speaker 1: the return for the touchdown on the on side kick.
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Speaker 1: Did you get the impression that guys were throwing their
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Speaker 1: bodies around on this onside kick at that point because
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Speaker 1: the score is what it is that I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be guys making a business decision. They're not gonna
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Speaker 1: put their head in there and go dive after the
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Speaker 1: football right now. I mean, that's why the running back
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Speaker 1: and uh it was Travis Homer who ended up taking
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Speaker 1: it all the way back for a touchdown. And so anyway,
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to give you my thoughts on that
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Speaker 1: because I wanted to volunteer. So, how do you, for
8:03
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, circle of wagons again, you know,
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Speaker 1: get the coaching staff and players back on the same
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Speaker 1: page and eliminate a lot of these communication things you said,
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Speaker 1: it's yeah, players when they're on the field, as Tony
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Speaker 1: was silly said last night, Hey, if you're the twelfth guy,
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Speaker 1: you gotta look around. Hey, you're in my spot and
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Speaker 1: talk to each other and get off the field. He's
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Speaker 1: gonna leave or And at what point does that become
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Speaker 1: The coaches can only go so far on the field,
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Speaker 1: but you still have to coach them, coach that out
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Speaker 1: of them, like there's a balance there. I thought it was.
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Speaker 1: It was kind of comical when you watch the film back, okay,
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Speaker 1: and they've got twelve guys on the field and you
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Speaker 1: had an extra defensive lineman. Okay, so I think it
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Speaker 1: was jahad Ward. He's he's literally he went from the
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Speaker 1: left side of the defensive line to the right side
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Speaker 1: and he's like, where am I gonna play? They're all
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Speaker 1: they're all taking So it's kind of funny. It wasn't funny,
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Speaker 1: but it was funny. You're watching and he's trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out where he can play. Wait, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: I'm one of the defensive linemen out here. Where where
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Speaker 1: where can I line up? And there was nowhere formal lineup.
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Speaker 1: So eventually he just puts his hand down and it
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Speaker 1: becomes a five down lineman situation and you just go
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Speaker 1: on and then you have the time out and then
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Speaker 1: you you it's happening again. I mean that that was like,
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Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. Moment. Uh, what's the old
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Speaker 1: airline airline commercial? You want to get away? Right? Yeah? Sure,
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Speaker 1: you know one of those where Colgan take me away.
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Speaker 1: That is definitely one of those moments. By the way,
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Speaker 1: the trade deadline was four o'clock and no word of
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Speaker 1: anything from the Jaguars. So quiet at the deadline for
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Speaker 1: the Jags. So a couple of the big trades. Ingram
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Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh to go to Chiefs Kansas City, and then
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Speaker 1: von Miller goes to the Yes, that's a big one
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Speaker 1: for a second. Enough, that's all they have left by
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Speaker 1: the way, all the other one the Rams don't believe
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Speaker 1: in draft picks. The Rams are going all in right
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Speaker 1: now and after a couple three or four years if
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Speaker 1: they don't win, and it won't matter anyway for the well,
10:15
Speaker 1: that's less neat less Need is. In fact less Need
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Speaker 1: was he was here back in and less Need was
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Speaker 1: essentially an errand guy, which he would do different things
10:27
Speaker 1: in scouting, you know, and uh, and he's a nice guy,
10:31
Speaker 1: and but he got a start here, was willing to
10:34
Speaker 1: do anything. And now he's the general manager of the Rams,
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Speaker 1: and and he has him and the coach have done
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Speaker 1: a very good job. And I will say when I
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Speaker 1: say very good job, I think that's subject to interpretation.
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Speaker 1: But you can't argue with the results. But some people
10:50
Speaker 1: would say you're not doing it and building the team
10:54
Speaker 1: to make it lasting. They're trying to win. They're trying
10:58
Speaker 1: to win now. They they thought they were about a
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Speaker 1: quarterback away, so they went and got the quarterback in
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Speaker 1: the trade Stafford and now getting the pass rusher in.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you put his contracts up at the end
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Speaker 1: of the year. If von Miller, if he if he
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Speaker 1: gets back to being von Miller, which he can still
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Speaker 1: do that. And you put him out on the field
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald together, Holy in the back end of
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Speaker 1: that defense too, Jalen n do all that. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean it's tough. Hey, guess what. The Jacks get to
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Speaker 1: play them in about five weeks time in l A.
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Speaker 1: So we got that going for us so far. I
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Speaker 1: have I have never I've never seen a more dominant
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Speaker 1: defensive player in the National Football League in a long time. Now.
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking when Von's on, I'm talking no,
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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I'm talking about Aaron Donald. Donald. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: he can take over the whole. I'm saying, you gotta
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Speaker 1: as a defensive lineman. Now you have to go back
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Speaker 1: to the Bruce Smith, the Reggie White, the and he's
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Speaker 1: better than John Randall, you know, I mean John Reynolds
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Speaker 1: great now, I mean those guys are are edge guys
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Speaker 1: though Donald's inside. John Randall was an inside guy. He
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Speaker 1: was a little old three technique kind of like Aaron
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Speaker 1: Donald is. Because when Aaron Donald was coming out, I
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Speaker 1: was looking at his his measurables, going, you know, I
12:25
Speaker 1: don't know about this guy being able to do it,
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Speaker 1: and uh, he's doing It's like the best in the
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Speaker 1: league and he's one of the best ever. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this guy is a he's a walking gold jacket shoeing
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is There's no doubt about that. So for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars to have to figure out how to block
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, that's gonna be a huge challenge for them
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Speaker 1: in that game, no doubt. And then he throw a
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Speaker 1: Vin on the outside and yeah, here we go. Um,
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Speaker 1: by the way, that game is coming up at so
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Speaker 1: FI Stadium December Fiber about the December first or so.
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Speaker 1: We'll have plenty of time on this program to go
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Speaker 1: over those matchups because, um, there are a lot to
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Speaker 1: dissect in that anyway, that's down the line a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Um if you know, this didn't seem just going into
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Speaker 1: the last week or so like a team that would
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Speaker 1: really be too active unless there was somebody out there
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Speaker 1: that you could get for not just this year, but
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Speaker 1: two or three years down the line to stay the
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Speaker 1: hard part, that's that's the hard part. Those guys don't
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Speaker 1: come around and there aren't available to us. Trent Balky
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Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer are trying, you know, and you always
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Speaker 1: try to do this. You try to build something that's
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Speaker 1: sustainable and what sustainable means is that whoever you acquire
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Speaker 1: that they're gonna be available not just for they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be available for next year two and then also and
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Speaker 1: so I think that's part of factoring in whether you
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Speaker 1: want to get a guy in the trade before the
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Speaker 1: trade diedline. Typically the it's a seller's market when you're
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Speaker 1: talking about the trade deadline. If you had von Miller,
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Speaker 1: would you and he's on a one year deal? I mean,
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Speaker 1: don't you think the Denver Broncos did pretty good getting
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Speaker 1: a second and a third? Yeah, because who knows if
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Speaker 1: we're gonna really going to resign him at the end
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Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, that's a really I mean, so
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Speaker 1: it's a perfect example of it being a seller's market.
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Speaker 1: And from the Ramps perspective there in the hunt they
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Speaker 1: need to win. We can afford this. That's typically who
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that they view it as that.
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Speaker 1: That's typically if you're in that position, then you view
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Speaker 1: that you maybe make a trade like that. But if
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Speaker 1: you're not, you've got to get a guy that's gonna
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Speaker 1: give you some type of commitment beyond this year. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's gonna, like I said, help you in the next
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Speaker 1: couple of years, not just this year. So and that's
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Speaker 1: that's hard to find sometimes. And then if you do
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Speaker 1: find a guy that a team is willing to trade for,
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Speaker 1: there is typically there's something there that hasn't made that
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Speaker 1: player has loved, you know what I mean, as far
15:07
Speaker 1: as there's something wrong, there's some kind of I don't
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Speaker 1: know what you would call it, some type of glaring
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Speaker 1: wart or whatever you want to call it that the
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Speaker 1: player has. If I mean, because look at that's and
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Speaker 1: not all players have that, then they're not all covered up,
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Speaker 1: and maybe it's just not a full organizational fit. You know.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just okay, let's move on from said player
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Speaker 1: and and start over. Hey, given give an example. Okay,
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Speaker 1: c J. Henderson was traded correct, Okay, perfect example, he
15:45
Speaker 1: has he has a blemish gay. The reports Worth coach
15:48
Speaker 1: and and one of the defensive coaches went to his
15:51
Speaker 1: house to talk to him. They confirmed those which, yeah,
15:55
Speaker 1: which they were talking to him supposedly about because he
15:58
Speaker 1: didn't want to play ball anymore. And has he played
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Speaker 1: that well for Carolina since the we got Dan Arnold
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Speaker 1: out of that trade, producing every week. So I think
16:11
Speaker 1: my point about that is is that if there's a
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Speaker 1: guy that's willing to be traded two things. Because von
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Speaker 1: Miller doesn't have any blemishes on him. He's a great player,
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Speaker 1: but the only drawback to him from the Denver BALCO's
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Speaker 1: perspective is how many more years can he play at
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Speaker 1: the level that he's at? Can can you make it
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Speaker 1: work from a cap perspective? And what is the team
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Speaker 1: that wants him willing to give us? They value a
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Speaker 1: second and a third round pick more than they value
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Speaker 1: a player who only has this year left on his deal,
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Speaker 1: especially if wherever they are in the standings right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean Denver is you know, last play there four
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Speaker 1: and four and they're chasing Vegas and the Chargers. I
16:55
Speaker 1: mean it's a tight division, but no guarantees. Let's come
16:58
Speaker 1: back defense for the Jaguars. We'll get into what happened
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Speaker 1: this past week. Gino Smith, your guy, it was hot,
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Speaker 1: red hot, white hot to start the game. Yeah. Well, uh,
17:12
Speaker 1: he must have listened to the Free Game show. That's
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Speaker 1: why he might have. And if you were all over it,
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Speaker 1: well I just said he's not a very good quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Well he heard that. He took it personally. Still not
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Speaker 1: this league, I should never happen, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's there's there's no excuse for that, there's no response.
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Speaker 1: We have to have better communication coming off the field,
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Speaker 1: and obviously it's a hectic environment. You know, there's d
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Speaker 1: lineman and there locked in trying to get to play,
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Speaker 1: and then this guy's running on. So it's got to
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Speaker 1: be a communication thing where if you are running on
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Speaker 1: the field, you have to call. You gotta go one
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Speaker 1: for one. You can't just run on the field and
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Speaker 1: just say hey, it's my turn to play. So it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of things, you know what I mean. It's
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Speaker 1: it's the time and other substitutions. Um, it's it's players
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Speaker 1: not communicating when they come in. So it's a total thing,
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Speaker 1: and it's such an easy thing to fix, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like it's something hard like
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Speaker 1: when you when you you know, raise your hand when
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Speaker 1: you're running in and you know who you're supposed to grab.
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Speaker 1: We're going from um base pert Jack personnel, the nickel personnel.
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Speaker 1: Whoever the nickel is, he's gotta go run and grab
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Speaker 1: the Sam Like everybody knows what they're supposed to do
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Speaker 1: with just not doing it. So it's on Earth. That's
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Speaker 1: Miles of course talking about the twelve men on the
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Speaker 1: field penalty in the near and next to when we've
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Speaker 1: gone through that, UM you know, coverage issues were there again.
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Speaker 1: There was all this talk about all we're gonna play
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Speaker 1: more zone now and you know they still it felt
19:14
Speaker 1: like they were the Locket and Nett Kaffret just running open.
19:18
Speaker 1: A lot of times, well, Lockett got separation, particularly when
19:23
Speaker 1: he was being covered in man with Tyson Campbell. I mean, look,
19:27
Speaker 1: Locks a great player and he's uh one of the
19:30
Speaker 1: top five guys in the National Football League at yards
19:33
Speaker 1: per catch. He's got great speed, elite speed. So it
19:36
Speaker 1: was Tyson Campbell, but he ran away from Tyson and
19:38
Speaker 1: got separation. So and then when the Jaguars played zone,
19:43
Speaker 1: he's pretty crafty about finding the opening. And that's he's
19:47
Speaker 1: a great player. And what has happened prior to this
19:52
Speaker 1: game against the Jaguars, Tyler Lockett hadn't gotten really much
19:56
Speaker 1: of a connection with Geno Smith. No. In fact, the
20:00
Speaker 1: numbers with which is kind of ridiculous. In the last
20:04
Speaker 1: five games, Tyler Lockett had only had a hundred fifty
20:07
Speaker 1: nine yards receiving and no touchdowns. In the first couple
20:10
Speaker 1: of games of the season, he had two eight yards
20:12
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns, and so there was no connection with
20:17
Speaker 1: with Gino. But you know, it's just it's hard for
20:23
Speaker 1: a defense. And I think the Jaguars coaching staff and
20:29
Speaker 1: personnel probably over evaluated or should I say, I don't
20:33
Speaker 1: know another way to put this, they overvalued what they
20:36
Speaker 1: had in the back end. At the start of the year.
20:40
Speaker 1: You're saying at the start of the years when the
20:42
Speaker 1: ross was set. Okay, we're set with these guys and
20:44
Speaker 1: here's why, right, And obviously that changed a little bit
20:47
Speaker 1: with with c J. And then you have a rookie
20:49
Speaker 1: who's clearly struggling enticon Campbell. But it's hard to go
20:53
Speaker 1: from Okay, all of all season, all of training camp,
20:58
Speaker 1: we're prepared to play man. We're gonna play man, and
21:01
Speaker 1: you're practicing man, and you're practicing, you know, the blitzes
21:06
Speaker 1: and the pressures and all that kind of stuff. And
21:07
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now you've said, well, you know,
21:09
Speaker 1: we gotta be more zone. It's probably a little bit
21:13
Speaker 1: easier to go from zone to man because it's easier
21:17
Speaker 1: to practice or better to practice something that you gotta
21:21
Speaker 1: Even with zone less, you have to relate to what
21:25
Speaker 1: the routes are in his zone and man, it's man,
21:28
Speaker 1: you're Jasonly going around right. So and if that man
21:32
Speaker 1: is better than your man, then that man is gonna
21:34
Speaker 1: win the man. And so I mean, in hindsight, which
21:36
Speaker 1: hindsight is always I mean, I'm not trying to criticize
21:39
Speaker 1: the coaching staff for the personnel staff here, but maybe
21:42
Speaker 1: with hindsight and hindsight for everybody was said, you know what,
21:46
Speaker 1: let's let's maybe just try to be balanced and that
21:49
Speaker 1: way we're practicing both and then we'll see where we
21:51
Speaker 1: go if if if we feel like we're playing pretty
21:54
Speaker 1: well and we feel like we can play more man,
21:55
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll play a little bit more man if
21:58
Speaker 1: we feel like we're not quite good enough talent wise,
22:01
Speaker 1: and we'll play a little bit more zone. And that's okay.
22:04
Speaker 1: But it didn't happen like that. They came out practicing
22:06
Speaker 1: a lot of man, but that they look it's uh,
22:09
Speaker 1: Rome wasn't built overnight, now, you know. And the disappointing
22:13
Speaker 1: thing is though that you know they're talking about rebuild.
22:15
Speaker 1: That term has been used now this week and in
22:19
Speaker 1: the off season. You signed the safety he's at a
22:21
Speaker 1: corner and free agency and then you drafted a safety
22:24
Speaker 1: and you drafted a corner. So I mean the rebuild
22:29
Speaker 1: is I mean, you're right in the middle of it,
22:31
Speaker 1: but I mean you would you were hoping for better
22:33
Speaker 1: results now had a cornerstones of the rebuild at some point,
22:38
Speaker 1: you hope putting that kind of equity into it, you hope.
22:40
Speaker 1: And then and they got a ways to go. You know,
22:42
Speaker 1: they got a ways to go. I mean, Tyson's got
22:45
Speaker 1: a lot of growth to make, to make and and
22:47
Speaker 1: I think he'll make it. I think he's first of all,
22:50
Speaker 1: he works hard, he's got this, he's got the physical toolbag.
22:53
Speaker 1: You just gotta learn to play the ball better. Can
22:57
Speaker 1: he do that at the level where you want him
22:59
Speaker 1: to be? I mean, that's that's that's an interesting question
23:02
Speaker 1: because when like when you watch Josh Allen, when Josh
23:05
Speaker 1: Allen plays the game, he's very aware of the ball
23:09
Speaker 1: and he finishes really well. Is this something that you
23:14
Speaker 1: either have or you don't. And I've said this before,
23:18
Speaker 1: the finishing the ball awareness sometimes is something that confidence
23:23
Speaker 1: will help build, that experience will help build that. But
23:27
Speaker 1: then in some cases you either have it or you don't.
23:30
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks on our Wednesday show on Jaguars dot Com
23:34
Speaker 1: a couple of times and said, you know, sometimes if
23:37
Speaker 1: somebody has like a a baseball or basketball background, when
23:42
Speaker 1: you have to play the ball, that if you play
23:44
Speaker 1: outfield right depth balls coming at you, you get to
23:48
Speaker 1: figure out I never could figure that out right as
23:50
Speaker 1: a kid, but like you know, you have to figure
23:52
Speaker 1: out how where the ball is coming and play the ball. Basketball,
23:56
Speaker 1: you're getting rebound, same idea. So a lot of times
23:59
Speaker 1: scouts will think about that background when they're going after
24:03
Speaker 1: a corner type player to evaluate his ability to go
24:06
Speaker 1: get the ball. I don't know if there's much of
24:08
Speaker 1: a background of that with Tyson whatever, but whether you
24:12
Speaker 1: played it or not, some guys have it and never
24:14
Speaker 1: played those sports, so either it may or may not
24:18
Speaker 1: be coachable. You know, the the two toughest positions I
24:20
Speaker 1: think in the NFL for a rookie quarterback clearly. I mean,
24:25
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you're you're gonna take some lumps. I mean,
24:27
Speaker 1: even when you're the first overall pick in the draft.
24:30
Speaker 1: I mean, go back and you look at all the
24:32
Speaker 1: the eight men, Peyton, Manning's the John Always, I mean,
24:35
Speaker 1: you name it. Every guy that was picked first overall
24:38
Speaker 1: has had struggles. For the most part. I don't know
24:41
Speaker 1: if is there a first overall pick quarterback that hasn't struggled.
24:46
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's got some Andrew Luck, I mean I'm
24:50
Speaker 1: trying to think of how he was his rookie year,
24:52
Speaker 1: but I mean and then the other positions. Corner, yeah,
24:56
Speaker 1: because you're outn't on island yeah, and they got veteran
24:58
Speaker 1: guys running rounds against you, picking on you, and the
25:01
Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks are picking on you and everything in college football.
25:05
Speaker 1: If you were Tyson Campbell or or a corner at
25:09
Speaker 1: any major college football program, how many guys did you
25:13
Speaker 1: go against that we're gonna play in the NFL. And
25:15
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about somebody that plays for Alabama, because
25:18
Speaker 1: in practice, you were gonna place guys that we're gonna
25:21
Speaker 1: play in the NFL every day part of the deal.
25:23
Speaker 1: But it kind of depends on this on the schedule, right, right,
25:26
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, if let's say you're in
25:27
Speaker 1: a sec right Georgia, Yeah, has some some offenses, some players,
25:33
Speaker 1: you know, and every once in a while have a guy.
25:35
Speaker 1: Um Florida will have a guy every once in a while.
25:38
Speaker 1: But the hard part when you make the transition to
25:41
Speaker 1: the national football at corner is that, Okay, the the
25:46
Speaker 1: level of talent that you're facing is what you have
25:49
Speaker 1: never seen yet, and it's every week, and it's every week.
25:53
Speaker 1: But then you also have to add in the complexity
25:56
Speaker 1: complexities of understanding your game plan. So now you're trying
26:01
Speaker 1: to learn what you're supposed to do against a great player.
26:05
Speaker 1: That's not easy to do, you know. So what we're
26:08
Speaker 1: seeing is exactly that with Tyson Campbell. We're seeing a
26:11
Speaker 1: young player struggle and he's just got to continue to
26:14
Speaker 1: work and bring the lunch pail and continue to work
26:18
Speaker 1: to get better. And I think he will because I
26:20
Speaker 1: think he's built that way. Our final thought on the
26:22
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense versus the Seahawks offense. Gino Smith started the
26:27
Speaker 1: game with fourteen consecutive completions, the longest streak to start
26:30
Speaker 1: a game by any quarterback in the National Football League
26:33
Speaker 1: this season, and he finished with a career high completion
26:36
Speaker 1: percentage twenty of twenty four, passing probably a d yards.
26:42
Speaker 1: He did throw a couple of touchdowns. It was all
26:45
Speaker 1: the fish shows, his halftime numbers. It was his game
26:47
Speaker 1: that was in the game number. Well, I mean, you
26:49
Speaker 1: might as well said that that was his happen I mean,
26:50
Speaker 1: what was Tell me what he did? Do you have
26:53
Speaker 1: the half numbers number that I asked that because Seattle
26:58
Speaker 1: totally took their foot off the gas pedal at half time.
27:01
Speaker 1: He was fourteen and fifteen at half they took their
27:05
Speaker 1: foot off the gas pedal. I mean they're up three
27:07
Speaker 1: scores and you know, they had the two possessions into
27:12
Speaker 1: the second half, they'd scored again and what did it
27:15
Speaker 1: go to nothing? Then at that point Seattle said, okay,
27:20
Speaker 1: we're just gonna hand the ball off, and I think
27:22
Speaker 1: they had three straight run plays of the extra ye
27:26
Speaker 1: that's right. So I know that. You know, the defense
27:30
Speaker 1: made some comments that you know, they felt good about
27:32
Speaker 1: their second half level of play, but it was it
27:37
Speaker 1: wasn't the same was Seattle. I don't think they were
27:40
Speaker 1: concerned at that point. I don't think so either. It
27:42
Speaker 1: didn't feel like because their defense was dominating the Jaguars offense.
27:46
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a struggle for the
27:50
Speaker 1: Jaguars offense. And we talked about it before the game,
27:54
Speaker 1: we talked about it during the game, and that Seattle's defense,
27:58
Speaker 1: if you look at their rankings, you're looking at the
28:00
Speaker 1: wrong thing. And the reason I we say that is
28:04
Speaker 1: because in the first five weeks of the season, Seattle
28:06
Speaker 1: was terrible. They had no team in the league had
28:10
Speaker 1: given up more yards then the Seattle Seahawks defense. I
28:14
Speaker 1: want to say it was the tune I wrote it
28:15
Speaker 1: down four over four and fifty yards a game. But
28:20
Speaker 1: in the last couple of games prior to facing the Jaguars,
28:24
Speaker 1: they were only allowing eight teen points a game the
28:27
Speaker 1: last four games. Going into the Jaguars game, they were
28:29
Speaker 1: the number one defense in the National Football League at
28:32
Speaker 1: third down percentage allowed. Their takeaways were getting better. They
28:39
Speaker 1: have too, I'm talking great players. Bobby Wagner in that
28:44
Speaker 1: game was incredible, Okay, Jamal Adams was incredible, and the
28:51
Speaker 1: Jaguars got dominated by that defense. That was the story
28:56
Speaker 1: of the game. When Trevor Lawrence looks like he's lost
28:59
Speaker 1: and own bad balls and and he's having used timehouts
29:03
Speaker 1: because that's just something that we haven't seen out of
29:05
Speaker 1: that offense. Well, let's come back and delve into that
29:08
Speaker 1: a little bit more. James Robinson banged up in the
29:10
Speaker 1: game might have changed some of the idea um, but
29:14
Speaker 1: they had on offense, and as you said, Trevor Lawrence
29:17
Speaker 1: threw the ball fifty four times. That's not ideal. It's
29:21
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29:35
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29:38
Speaker 1: Book Digital Network. I think it just goes to show, um,
29:48
Speaker 1: she don't come out and ready to play and you
29:50
Speaker 1: don't play well. This can happen to anybody any week.
29:53
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter who you're playing. You just
29:55
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta play well. And we did it. So
29:58
Speaker 1: I think that's as you know, it's not concerning. Obviously.
30:01
Speaker 1: For for me, it's not. Um, I just because I'm
30:04
Speaker 1: in that locker room and you know, with all those
30:07
Speaker 1: guys and see how hard we work and how we prepare,
30:10
Speaker 1: and UM, I know part from the ouseide looking in
30:13
Speaker 1: it might be, but it's it's not concerning. It's just
30:14
Speaker 1: we played like crap today and that's gonna happen every
30:17
Speaker 1: now and then, and um, but I can't let this
30:20
Speaker 1: happen again for sure. It's pretty straightforward. From Trevor Lawrence,
30:24
Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback after the Lass in Seattle this past Sunday
30:28
Speaker 1: and welcome backs. Jaguars Happy Our coming up at five
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30:34
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30:36
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Speaker 1: we'll get to that a little bit later. The top team.
30:51
Speaker 1: We could argue they are the top team in the
30:53
Speaker 1: a f C coming in next week. We touched on
30:57
Speaker 1: the offense at the end of that last little bit there.
31:00
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was forced to throw fifty four times in
31:03
Speaker 1: the game. James Lawrence banged up James Lawrence, James Robinson.
31:07
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Trevor and James and Robinson and Lawrence, James
31:12
Speaker 1: Robinson with a Bruce he James Lawrence JP actually made
31:18
Speaker 1: a mistake. I did, and I own it. Hashtag on
31:22
Speaker 1: it um Bruce heel day to day for James Robinson.
31:26
Speaker 1: When you left the game, you know, hey, that that
31:29
Speaker 1: kind of changed the whole feel of what they were
31:32
Speaker 1: trying to do. Totally changed it. I mean literally, and
31:34
Speaker 1: you could see that the Seattle defense I think, respected
31:40
Speaker 1: the running game a little bit less. I mean, that's
31:43
Speaker 1: how good James Robinson is. And and I know that
31:46
Speaker 1: Urban has a history with Carlos Hyde and and they
31:51
Speaker 1: feel pretty confident with him. But the reality is he
31:54
Speaker 1: is not James Robinson not. I mean, the NFL is
31:59
Speaker 1: about talent, and if you don't have your best talent
32:03
Speaker 1: out there, it's hard to be at your best. And
32:06
Speaker 1: when James went out, I thought it was a significant loss.
32:12
Speaker 1: He is he is their best player on offense, and
32:15
Speaker 1: it's not even debatable. At some point Trevor Lawrence may
32:19
Speaker 1: be the best player, but right now he's not. And
32:22
Speaker 1: for a young quarterback, you've got to have a great
32:25
Speaker 1: offensive rushing attack and James Robinson gives them their best
32:30
Speaker 1: chance at that. So to not have him, I mean
32:33
Speaker 1: that was crushing. And I think the one thing that
32:36
Speaker 1: kind of tick me off a little bit. First of all,
32:41
Speaker 1: it was a very legal push by Bobby Wagner on
32:44
Speaker 1: the sideline inbounds, inbounds, and it wasn't over the top
32:48
Speaker 1: or anything of that nature. But where was I mean,
32:52
Speaker 1: the Seahawks bench man catch the guy? Don't just like
32:56
Speaker 1: open up part the scene so I can go flying
32:59
Speaker 1: into the bench, sure something. I mean, somebody just catched
33:02
Speaker 1: the guy professionally, have a little professional courtesy, Well, Hey,
33:07
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I say that because he's a Jaguar.
33:11
Speaker 1: But now if somebody, if Miles Jack pushes a seahawk
33:15
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars bench, I'm saying, get out of the way,
33:18
Speaker 1: say let him go. Of course you are right, tell
33:21
Speaker 1: colored glasses you gotta so, you know. Alright. So the
33:25
Speaker 1: longest play at offense was seventeen yards and it was
33:29
Speaker 1: the pass of the flat to James Robinson, which goes
33:33
Speaker 1: to show you how good he is. The next longest
33:35
Speaker 1: play was fourteen yards. That was a run, So nothing
33:39
Speaker 1: down the field at all. Who had to run James Robinson,
33:42
Speaker 1: not James Lawrence. James Robinson. After that, I mean, he
33:47
Speaker 1: just had no Nobody opened down the field, and when
33:50
Speaker 1: they did, they either dropped the ball or it was
33:52
Speaker 1: out of bounds or whatever the case. Man, there really
33:55
Speaker 1: is is I mean they're missing, they're missing the vertical aspect.
33:59
Speaker 1: So and we know that, we've talked about that for weeks,
34:01
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be what it is. They didn't trade
34:03
Speaker 1: for any new guys. Well, look at that doesn't factor
34:08
Speaker 1: into the equation. You have to still you still have
34:11
Speaker 1: to have a vertical element to your game and the
34:15
Speaker 1: reason why is it Because if you have the vertical element,
34:21
Speaker 1: it makes the area bigger that the defense has to cover. Well, yeah,
34:26
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Yeah, see what I'm saying.
34:28
Speaker 1: I see we use my Doug Mussy. Yes, I do
34:32
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. What are we doing? It's another
34:35
Speaker 1: dug is um. But what it does it makes the
34:39
Speaker 1: defense honor the back part of the field and it
34:44
Speaker 1: opens up the windows everywhere from their closer back to
34:47
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And right now they really don't
34:50
Speaker 1: have a vertical element to their passing game. And and
34:54
Speaker 1: you know, look at it. It's not just because d J.
34:56
Speaker 1: Chark is on injured reserve because he wasn't just the
35:00
Speaker 1: are there, but they have kept guys on this roster
35:04
Speaker 1: because they supposedly had great speed. Okay, and where is
35:11
Speaker 1: that speed at? I mean, look, Tyron Johnson active in
35:16
Speaker 1: the game, supposedly has great speed. We haven't seen anything
35:20
Speaker 1: vertical with him. You've got James Jamal Agnew who has
35:25
Speaker 1: He's a separate, he gets a great separation. He's got speed.
35:28
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see something to where the
35:31
Speaker 1: receivers are running go routes, which the go routes are
35:34
Speaker 1: just straight down the field they go. And the reason
35:37
Speaker 1: that go routes have to be a part of the game.
35:39
Speaker 1: It stretches the defense out number one and it makes
35:43
Speaker 1: defenses honor that. And then when you throw the ball
35:46
Speaker 1: on go routes, a couple of things can happen. Hey,
35:51
Speaker 1: you might get a completion. You might be good. A
35:55
Speaker 1: second thing is is that you gave maybe get an interference.
35:58
Speaker 1: That would be also nice, just as good. And then
36:02
Speaker 1: the other thing could happen is that you could be
36:05
Speaker 1: an incompletion and no penalty and that's okay, okay's line
36:08
Speaker 1: up again. Play, Or it could be intercepted. That'd be bad.
36:12
Speaker 1: That could be bad. But I mean I think that
36:14
Speaker 1: that's but that's three good things and one bad thing.
36:16
Speaker 1: That's part of why you mean, I mean Al Davis,
36:20
Speaker 1: God Rest his soul. Al Davis always believed in the
36:23
Speaker 1: vertical element of the game. I mean, that was and
36:27
Speaker 1: he I mean he he gave the marching orders to
36:30
Speaker 1: his personnel, guys, his coaching staff the ball must be
36:36
Speaker 1: thrown deep, and that's and he was right. I mean,
36:41
Speaker 1: he was totally right. And that's in the seventies, even
36:45
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, who had this controlled passing attack, had the
36:51
Speaker 1: vertical element to it. John Taylor, Okay, it wasn't just
36:55
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice on slants and little crossing routes. John Taylor
36:59
Speaker 1: was a guy that could go so even Bill Walsh
37:03
Speaker 1: had a vertical element to his passing game and in
37:06
Speaker 1: this offense. In the last couple of games, we haven't
37:08
Speaker 1: seen a lot of that vertical element. That's in fact,
37:12
Speaker 1: that's a note that I've made after like the last
37:14
Speaker 1: three games. I've heard this before. Where's the vertical element
37:17
Speaker 1: to the passing attack? Do you Yeah, that's what it is.
37:22
Speaker 1: I mean, do you work it in I mean working
37:24
Speaker 1: more in the game plan. Maybe it's in the game
37:26
Speaker 1: plan and it's covered and they just can't make the
37:28
Speaker 1: throw down field, you know. I mean, okay, well, at
37:31
Speaker 1: some point you can't force it into three defenders. Right. Well,
37:35
Speaker 1: I haven't watched the tape, but like I mean, are
37:38
Speaker 1: they isn't there? Are they trying? They're They're not. They're
37:41
Speaker 1: not trying as much I think, as as you probably
37:45
Speaker 1: would like. And especially when you and here's the thing
37:48
Speaker 1: that's gonna be more difficult going forward. Most of your
37:52
Speaker 1: deep routes or vertical aspect of the passing game, and
37:58
Speaker 1: not always, but the percentages are more from play action. So,
38:05
Speaker 1: now of a sudden, if you're missing your best running
38:08
Speaker 1: back and the most respected part of your running game,
38:11
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna run downhill and chase the faith. Now what happens.
38:15
Speaker 1: What happens to that play action where you're trying to
38:18
Speaker 1: take shot down the field? Well, uh, send more games
38:22
Speaker 1: to figure something out on that side. We'll come back
38:25
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38:27
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38:31
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38:34
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39:18
Speaker 1: even over the bye week and we got better. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's demoralizing. You go on the road and the offense
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Speaker 1: moves the ball we've put. You know, that would have
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Speaker 1: been good down at inside of five. We've been really
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Speaker 1: good at making go to field. It goes in the
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Speaker 1: end zone and take it down the fielding s floor
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Speaker 1: and then uh score again. So Gino had a he's
39:38
Speaker 1: a streaky player, and he was streaky at first. I
39:40
Speaker 1: mean there's times we even had a guy doubled and
39:42
Speaker 1: he stuck one in there. Um, but those are two
39:45
Speaker 1: good receivers and we gotta play better and and uh
39:48
Speaker 1: but we played you know, the tale of two house
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Speaker 1: on defense. That's head coach Urban Meyer earlier this week
39:55
Speaker 1: and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll hear from
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Speaker 1: head coach Urban Meyer on the Bourbon Meyer, a show
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Speaker 1: I'd lead up that's at five o'clock on the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Radio Network every Tuesday. Hello, log Well, the special teams
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Speaker 1: that he talks about, what was a very good uh
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Speaker 1: the first drive player. He's referring to you got a
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Speaker 1: really nice punt by Logan Cook and an opportunity with
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Speaker 1: Rudy Ford to catch the ball at the phone. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so here's a great chance to back up Seattle play
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Speaker 1: some field position, because if you can get great field
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Speaker 1: position like that, then it kind of can tip the
40:27
Speaker 1: scales for field position throughout the game or at least
40:30
Speaker 1: throughout the near future. And he doesn't catch it, it
40:33
Speaker 1: bounces the ground and rolls into the end zones. So
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Speaker 1: now you lose. You lose fifteen yards and field position.
40:38
Speaker 1: There you had a uh illegal formation on a punch
40:45
Speaker 1: pel Russell lined up too deep. He's a tackle. He's
40:47
Speaker 1: got to be on the line of scrimmage. That's a
40:49
Speaker 1: mental error. I mean, when you can't get lined up properly,
40:53
Speaker 1: then that's a mental error. You can't have that. I mean,
40:56
Speaker 1: that's I mean that one there. I think you gotta say, hey,
40:59
Speaker 1: that falls on coaching. And then you had a penalty
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Speaker 1: on the kick return which backed the Jaguars up to
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Speaker 1: the eight. That was I think right prior to that
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Speaker 1: penalty on Chappelle Russell. And then at the end, you
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Speaker 1: know you have the onside kick, which is questionable even
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Speaker 1: to do that we've talked about that, but then you
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Speaker 1: allow that to be returned for a touchdown. So it
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Speaker 1: was it was not a good day for special teams
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Speaker 1: and it was not a good day for the offense
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Speaker 1: in particular. Veterans, Choose v A for the benefits you've earned.
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41:36
Speaker 1: a look now at the Baptist Health injury report Baptist
41:38
Speaker 1: Health changing healthcare for good. Urban Meyer on Monday talked
41:42
Speaker 1: about James Robinson's heel injury set us day to day,
41:46
Speaker 1: we'll see the Jags did claim divide a zigbo off waivers.
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Speaker 1: They've had him here before, and we'll see moving ahead
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Speaker 1: what Robinson's feeling is. But then it's a long schedule ahead,
41:57
Speaker 1: and you know, do you want to throw him out
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Speaker 1: there right away? Do you want to give him another
42:01
Speaker 1: week and just make sure? No? No, no, James Robinson
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Speaker 1: with the injury, that's all gonna be a medical decision. Sure,
42:10
Speaker 1: But even if it's a question at all, you set
42:12
Speaker 1: him down right, if it's all I can go, I'm seventy,
42:16
Speaker 1: do you let him Go's not good enough? No? No, no, no, no,
42:20
Speaker 1: that's uh. He'll say he's it's just his personality. And
42:23
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, I look, they say hill bruise,
42:26
Speaker 1: but here's the reality. You don't have to reveal exactly
42:29
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, it can be a plan
42:32
Speaker 1: our fascionists and you say he'll brewis because I mean,
42:35
Speaker 1: in reality that could you got heal pain and you
42:38
Speaker 1: got inflammation there, so you can say, well, that's a
42:39
Speaker 1: hill brewis. I mean, you just don't know exactly what
42:42
Speaker 1: it is. But I will tell you this. You've got
42:45
Speaker 1: a running back and he's got a foot problems where
42:47
Speaker 1: it all begins. It's not good. I mean, that's like
42:50
Speaker 1: the worst injury that you can have if you're running
42:52
Speaker 1: back or if you're a skill position player, is a
42:56
Speaker 1: foot injury. I mean, last time I chat, you gotta run,
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Speaker 1: that's part. That's what the the name of the run.
43:05
Speaker 1: You need a foot you need actually you probably need
43:09
Speaker 1: a couple of them. I just hope he's okay, because
43:12
Speaker 1: James is such a such a good player. Yeah, and
43:15
Speaker 1: he's like I said, he's the best player, said Ace before.
43:18
Speaker 1: He's the best player that they have on offense, not
43:21
Speaker 1: even close. Urban also earlier said this week that you
43:24
Speaker 1: know lender is getting closer. You know, the m c
43:27
Speaker 1: L is he Now what was that game injury weeks
43:32
Speaker 1: four weeks it was against Cincinnati, right, Yeah, they said
43:35
Speaker 1: the m c L is better now, but it's the
43:37
Speaker 1: high ankles. So that was I mean, if you want
43:41
Speaker 1: to three Titans game yea three three weeks ago and
43:49
Speaker 1: he had what was reported to be a knee and
43:51
Speaker 1: then high ankle. Okay, high ankles are four to six.
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Speaker 1: That's that's the what's remaining, according to Urban on Monday. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so that's gonna be gonna be a while. Let's take
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Speaker 1: a look at the AFC South and start with the
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Speaker 1: results from this past weekend, and of course we know
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Speaker 1: what happened in Seattle, the Seahawks over the Jaguars seven
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Speaker 1: overtime game. In Indy, the Tennessee Titans get an interception
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Speaker 1: off Carson Wentz in overtime and set up the game
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Speaker 1: winning field goal thirty four thirty one the final and
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Speaker 1: then Derrick Henry with a foot injury surgery out indefinitely
44:26
Speaker 1: and the Rams. Of course, we're up thirty eight nothing
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Speaker 1: on the Texans. The Texans scored twenty two four quarter
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Speaker 1: points to make the score closer, but it was all
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Speaker 1: Rams all day against the Texans. So we look now
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Speaker 1: the a f C South standings after week eight and
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Speaker 1: it's Tennessee in command of the a f C South
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Speaker 1: at the top of the division. Now, of course, after
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Speaker 1: that went over the Colts, they have a sizeable lead
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Speaker 1: over Indy in a second place in the division. The
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Speaker 1: Titans at six and two, Indy at three and five,
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Speaker 1: the Jags at one in six in Houston at one
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Speaker 1: and seven. So six and two, three and five, that's
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Speaker 1: first a second place. And we look at the upcoming
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Speaker 1: schedules and weeks nine through thirteen for the a f
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Speaker 1: C South. We know the Jags schedule ahead Buffalo, Indie,
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Speaker 1: San fran The Texans are at Miami by week at
45:16
Speaker 1: Tennessee their toast anyway, Indie, the Jets, the Jaguars both
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Speaker 1: at home. They're at Buffalo, that's a tough one, and
45:23
Speaker 1: then Tennessee at the Rams. What a game that'll be.
45:26
Speaker 1: And then New Orleans and Houston both in Nashville. Those
45:30
Speaker 1: are the next three weeks. Now the question with without
45:33
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry Adrian Peterson I guess has been signed to
45:36
Speaker 1: the practice squad officially in Tennessee. Uh, you know, can
45:40
Speaker 1: Tennessee maintained this lead? Is this a lead too big
45:44
Speaker 1: to overcome for Indianapolis in the division considering Derrick Henry
45:48
Speaker 1: might be done for a long time. Did you see
45:50
Speaker 1: the interception that Carson went through? That not good? That's
45:57
Speaker 1: something that you would expect to see out of a
45:59
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. It's terrible. Yes, it was so. I mean,
46:04
Speaker 1: I look, I'd like to say that, Hey, look, Tennessee
46:08
Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry, they're in trouble. But who's gonna catch it?
46:13
Speaker 1: Are they? I mean they're in trouble. I think after
46:16
Speaker 1: the season's over, in the postseason without here's the reality.
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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is their offense. He is their entire offense.
46:25
Speaker 1: Are they capable of surviving without him? I think Tanny
46:30
Speaker 1: Hill is a good quarterback. Not a great quarterback, but
46:33
Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback. He's got some really good weapons
46:36
Speaker 1: when they're healthy. A J. Brown, Julio Jones. Tight ends
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Speaker 1: are pretty solid. He's got running back that can catch
46:44
Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield. So can they survive? Yeah?
46:47
Speaker 1: I think they can survive, But they need to find
46:50
Speaker 1: somebody because that's their identity, their identity is running the football.
46:54
Speaker 1: They gotta find somebody that can replace some of the
46:57
Speaker 1: production of Derrick Henry Kin. Adrian Peterson be that guy.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Adrian Peterson is the last
47:03
Speaker 1: time I saw he was still a good back. But
47:07
Speaker 1: he's not Derek kenn I mean, he's like years old,
47:10
Speaker 1: as old as you are. Kennry has bailed out that
47:13
Speaker 1: team on more occasions then you can shake a stick act.
47:19
Speaker 1: I mean, he's that good. So, but yeah, can the
47:22
Speaker 1: Colts catch him? No? I mean, look, I know that
47:27
Speaker 1: Frank Wright Carson Wentz have a great relationship, but that
47:32
Speaker 1: relationship didn't help Carson Wentz on that interception. I mean, seriously,
47:36
Speaker 1: that was the worst. And I mean it's trun almost
47:39
Speaker 1: had one of them Seattle. I know, I know. It's
47:42
Speaker 1: one play in one game. Bad decision, bad decision by
47:46
Speaker 1: Carson Wentzon. And Trevor is gonna learn that you don't
47:49
Speaker 1: do that. I mean he threw it up, you know,
47:52
Speaker 1: and you can't. You just can't do that. And uh,
47:55
Speaker 1: the Rams thirty eight zip on the Texans, well, well
47:59
Speaker 1: the Texans, you know, you know what they're saying right now.
48:01
Speaker 1: We don't really happy about our protection in the fourth quarter.
48:05
Speaker 1: You know, we got better in the fourth quarter. We
48:07
Speaker 1: scored twenty two points in the fourth quarter. I'm sure
48:10
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. I know
48:13
Speaker 1: it's not and what and what do you say to
48:16
Speaker 1: that garbage? Garbage? I can say a lot of things
48:21
Speaker 1: to that, but um, yeah, they're out of it. The
48:24
Speaker 1: Rams though, of course, after that, when go out and
48:28
Speaker 1: trade for von Miller and they're going all in in
48:31
Speaker 1: a very competitive NFC West Division, they feel like, hey,
48:34
Speaker 1: they got the quarterback. Now let's go get von Miller,
48:37
Speaker 1: rent him for a couple of months and see what happens.
48:40
Speaker 1: And they're all in in l A. It's gonna be
48:43
Speaker 1: interesting to watch. It would be interesting to watch. And
48:45
Speaker 1: you know what's also going to be interesting to listen to.
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Speaker 1: Coming up is the Urban Meyer Show, and just about
48:51
Speaker 1: a minute or so, we'll hear from the Jaguar's head coach,
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Speaker 1: get his final thoughts on what happened in Seattle, and
48:58
Speaker 1: then look ahead to the Buffalo Bill. I'll guarantee you
49:01
Speaker 1: that he is not going to be a happy coach.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how he could be coming
49:07
Speaker 1: out of that game while you camping. I mean, you
49:08
Speaker 1: have terrible performance and you know, you got out played
49:14
Speaker 1: and you got out coached. It was not it was
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Speaker 1: not a good day and so not not a good
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Speaker 1: day to have a coaching show when you have a
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Speaker 1: game like that. Prior to it. We'll hear from Urban
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Speaker 1: coming up in just a moment on the Urban Meyers
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