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From Constipation to Controversy · You Know What I Mean?

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Hello. Good morning.
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How are you? Good.
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Morning. I'm good.
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How are you? Good, I love your hair like
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that. Thank you.
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You look so like sassy with it like that.
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Oh my gosh, I think it's ever. See you with it like that every
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single day. Yeah, I am extremely awkward.
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I'm sorry to cut you off. I have Casey sitting next to me,
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making direct eye contact with fistfuls of blueberries going
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into his mouth. I'm.
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I need to turn the camera to see if I can even capture this.
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We're gonna friggin plate just sitting there.
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I'm like, can you not eat your breakfast?
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Can I? Hear while I'm recording, he
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goes. Can I just start here?
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You're still here. He literally look like a
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squirrel. Like, just like putting him in
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his mouth. Prepping for the winter?
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Oh my gosh, the. Direct eye contact.
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Yes. Are these our colors?
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Yeah, sure. Like I think that this pink is
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yours and this blue is mine. I do love the blue on you.
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Like what is the the where did you get your cane sweatshirt
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from? So it's a local gal that does
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embroidery, and I've ordered those same sweatshirts from her
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before, but I didn't even look to see all the color options
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that I have. And of course, I saw that they
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had that blue and I was like, I must get that.
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Yeah, all the great colors right now is the this pink.
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Yes, and. Then this blue, which goes
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perfect with the Stanley. You didn't mean to get me.
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You got another one? Or is that the same one?
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No, same one. Is it white?
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No, it's like light pink. Oh OK, yeah, it looked more
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light pink in the last video. I don't know why it looks so
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white to me right now. Yeah, no, like your white
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toenail Polish. Which is a good move apparently.
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Apparently I'm 100% wrong there. OK, can I tell you something?
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So when you were here, I got addicted.
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I and I'm not well, I'm going to say it.
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I think I have an addictive personality.
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I don't know how people feel about this, if that's like
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made-up or. No, I don't think that that's a
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made-up thing. OK, because I definitely am like
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that. Like when I, you know, like when
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I get onto something, I mean. Yes, constantly, yes.
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And I also feel like you have one of the strongest willpowers.
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I know though, like if I do like if, like we were terrible
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influences when it came to like eating sweets and you and Bobby
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could be like, and I think Bobby has a little bit more of a sweet
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tooth like we do, but you guys could be like, we're done having
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them. Oh, the ice cream at night a
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sweet. Treat at night.
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Like but no you guys. So when the Kate and Casey were
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here, literally. We are terrible influences.
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They wanted ice cream at this cute little ice cream place down
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the street that it was so much fun.
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We biked there sometimes, so nice.
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Wanted ice cream every night. I don't know that about you with
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anything else that I've ever seen that.
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That, I will say, is my toxic trait.
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I my sweet treat at night that I need and I genuinely like hit so
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bad. Well, first I want to hear about
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your addictive personality. Oh, well, no.
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Well, like with the lattes, I got hooked.
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It's with like half a pump of something.
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Yeah, you just. See a light?
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Kick yes, because one time I got I think it was an iced
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Americano, which is terrible yeah and then you get this like
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cloud of foam and. OK.
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That cloud foam thing I never get.
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That was because they were doing some sort of specialty thing.
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They were like of. Course you need a cup like I got
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it in a plastic clear cup and you got it in a pink cup with
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like a special top. So I was like, so I threw away
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my Americano and I just got the 1:00 you got literally.
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And then you were like you got to live or something like that
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like when you're getting coffee out.
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And I was like yes of course. So now ever since y'all left,
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I'm basically craving it every day.
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And for weeks, I was finding reasons to go to East End.
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Yeah, get the coffee. So now.
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Then I started doing it on my own.
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So I started recreating it at home.
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OK, Perfect. Like OK.
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What are you doing? So the Fair Life 2% milk.
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And then I got this. It's Chobani, which I thought
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was oat milk. It's not cream.
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I know which one that one is bomb with hazelnut it is so
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good. So I just put a dash of that in
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my iced coffee. OK, but here's the problem.
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OK. It stops me up.
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I think I'm allergic to milk. I think I I'm just allergic
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because I literally had another moment in the bathroom like I
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did when y'all were here. I ended up having a dream about
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OK sorry. No, it's only our people that
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are here. They talk about poop.
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If you don't talk about poop. Exit the podcast right now.
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So that day, I mean, it was almost too similar.
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When y'all were here, it was, it was like scary.
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How she came out sweating. Sweating because I.
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Am a ghost you look traumatized I'm.
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Usually never constipated like normally it's like let's go
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ready. Well that day when y'all were
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here and just last week on one day I went in there.
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I swear my butt fell asleep. Oh, my ankles were like, I was
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on there trying to make it happen for like an hour and then
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I'm terrified of hemorrhoids. So I was like, Oh my gosh, yeah,
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you're you're 40. Yeah.
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Yeah. So it feels like an old man
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thing. No offense if anyone has it,
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whatever. But anyway, so then nothing
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happened that day. OK, so then that night, poopy
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pills. I really did so, but I made soup
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and I was like, surely some lots of soup.
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We'll get it moving. OK, Sure enough, the next night,
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turns out it's like 3. AMI had a dream about pooping in
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my bed. Diarrhea that woke me up, thank
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goodness. I don't think I'd tell this if I
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actually pooped the bed. Have a green woke up, have you?
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Ever pooped the bed? No, never.
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Well, that's good. Me either.
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No, I have the recurring poop dreams Very.
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We've talked about we don't have to talk about it.
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We've talked about it before. So I went to the bathroom
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happened not like it was still slightly like this is not
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normal. What happened?
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Relief. OK good.
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So then I start. Thinking what?
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Thinking about this. So then I started thinking, what
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am I doing different in my life? Because there's not that much
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difference going on except my homemade lattes.
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You just got to keep going back to the store or to the, you know
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what I think it is for you, You need to try different.
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Like maybe not even get the fair life because you got blocked up
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when you had fair life. The protein drinks.
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Oh, the protein drinks. I know it's completely
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different, completely different ingredients and stuff, but I
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must wonder if fair life blocks you up.
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Well, I got almond milk because I was like maybe like it's just
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a dairy thing, even though I have cream in my coffee and
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that's I haven't tried it yet, but they had I one get one free
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and I got 2. So now I have to dry it.
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It'll be. Yeah, actually so so.
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Good. Anyway, yeah, you just can't.
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Maybe it's fair life. You're right.
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Yeah, because I have cream in my coffee and it's fine.
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Yeah, I don't know. Oh my God.
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But it is like obviously a dash of cream versus like, well, it's
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not like you're probably putting that much milk in it.
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Like we use smaller cups to make them.
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But that remember I texted you about like I'm making a list of
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things to tell you about. The first one was how excited I
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was about the drink that I remade.
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This was free Constipation. That'll do it.
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That'll make it a quick love hate relationship.
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I'm basically just having soup anyway, but yeah, OK, the ice
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cream thing or what were you gonna say?
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Oh, no, I was just gonna say I have an extremely like, that's
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why I think like when you say you have an addictive
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personality. I don't think I do, but I have a
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sugar addiction. I can totally.
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Because you're very disciplined. That's what really threw me
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about the ice cream thing. Yeah, I can be very disciplined,
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OK. But I also can be very
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disciplined in a way of the opposite it to a habit and it's
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just become a habit. Yeah.
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I mean, we were going on this like having a little bit of ice
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cream every single night type of situation every night.
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Terrible. I.
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Mean that was three weeks. That is not our norm.
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No, I'm talking about my life. Like.
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I was like having a little bit of ice cream at home every
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night. Oh, I know and I came to visit
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Well that you were have it. OK, I don't go.
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And tell them to buy ice cream every night.
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But you had. This was also so exciting for,
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like, because it's like vacation for me when I come to visit you.
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So you all were having your own personal pint of ice cream
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yesterday. But like splitting it or
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whatever, Yeah. Not with each other.
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I am not an ice cream sharer. Yeah.
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You each had your own. And then you could put it back
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for the next night. So then I had mine.
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Yeah, but that. What a vibe is that though?
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That was cool, I've never heard of that before.
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Are you serious? No, because we could never.
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Bobby and I could never. We just, we're, we would eat all
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of it. Bobby would.
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I could have discipline like at your house.
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I rationed it to the three nights I'd be there.
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Bobby couldn't do that. Yeah, that's fair.
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You gotta learn. You gotta.
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Like if we go and chips. Oh yeah, See, I could sit and
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have a couple of chips and put them back.
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Oh see, no, I can't too. I just.
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Need to not have it in the house.
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Otherwise sweet I can have again like pretzels in the like.
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There's these really yummy pretzels from Trader Joe's that
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they're like onion something and I love them but I can have like
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6 of them and I'm like I'm good. Same, but not sweets.
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Like the cookies I made for Casey's birthday.
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There's two left sitting on the counter and literally every
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single time I walk into the kitchen, they talk to me, eat
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me, eat me. Not to talk about like body
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stuff, but I think about like if I didn't do my sweet treat and
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it's slightly toxic, I'll be the first to admit it.
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I would be shredded if I didn't do that.
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Because the rest of the day I'm like, it's just because I'm
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busy. And so then I'm like, I have my
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Big Breakfast, my lunch and my dinner and it's like, I'd be, I
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mean, I've been doing some pretty good things underneath
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this, but also I'm like, I love ice cream.
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I just need to be a little bit less like the volume needs to
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come down. I can see that because ice cream
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is so young. I don't ever want to look back
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and be like I would never look back and regret the cone of ice
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cream I got at Kelly's. No, but I will say I don't need
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to eat it every single night at home and then wonder why some
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mornings I wake up and I'm super inflamed and I'm like, I wonder
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what I did. I'm like, oh, probably the half
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a pint of ice cream you ate last night.
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OK, so I'll never tell myself it's that.
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Well that's what I was wondering, does it affect your
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sleep? Because that is, it does to I.
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Sleep no, which is probably bad. I'm like, and even any sort of
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blood testing I've gotten done and stuff like that.
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They're like your glucose is so good.
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I'm like, I don't know how I'm like I'm, I'm teetering on a
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line of like, I'm trying to like, I don't know, I'm, I'm
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fucking around and I might find out and I hope not.
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But Casey's on Day 1 1/2, I guess I would call it of
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tightening up his, his, his shit.
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So whenever he's like more on it, I'm like, this is easy for
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me. It's so easy for me if he's got
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his stuff together. Yeah.
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So we're on Day 1 1/2. We'll see how it goes for us.
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I love how that happens because it happens for us too.
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Or we'll like indulge and stuff. And like like Bobby was having a
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lot of cereal. Y'all got him hooked on cereal.
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We also never okay, that's the thing too that you guys don't
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don't take into consideration like the cereal I bought while
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we're there. I bought that when we went into
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like the chicken house and then we went to Target to go grocery
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shopping. I never buy that cereal.
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OK, well, I used to get it as a kid and I loved it.
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And so then I'm like, I need some emotional support because
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I'm feeling yes, it's just if anyone's wanting it's just
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Crispix ice cream. There's some or not ice cream
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cereal. There's just something about
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like how crispy it stays and you pour milk on it.
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It's a great little pre workout snack.
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Pre workout it's great. Well, it went on his cream as
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staple. Yeah.
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Well, so last week we were talking.
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We were like, we really need to, like, tighten up just same,
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which there's something kind of fun about that too.
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It's like, even though I love all the indulgences, but there's
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something kind of fun about like, come on, let's like,
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because it gets me excited about cooking and like, yeah, all
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that. So.
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Yeah. And it also makes things when
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you were like intentional about either, like prepping stuff.
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It just makes you feel like things are in order.
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And for me, that's my comfort zone.
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It's like I love feeling. Like things are seamless.
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Yes. You don't have to question, what
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am I gonna eat for lunch? Oh, we prepped something.
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That's obviously why I've made that soup almost every week
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since we left, because it's so easy.
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So easy. Yeah, I just ate my last.
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I need to make another batch of it, but it's just also so good.
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Right. Yeah, I.
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I think that does Bobby love it as much as you do.
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Yes. Oh, that Casey likes it, but
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he's definitely not. He's probably like, Oh my gosh,
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she's making it again because. I'm.
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Like, do you want me to leave this poop out for you?
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He's like, God, no, I'm good. I'm like, all right.
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Wasn't it when you got back and you were like, Casey said
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something like enough with this poop?
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I thought it was a poop thing. I thought he was like really
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gassy because there's some beans in it.
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You were like, no, no, no. It's just, it's just for him.
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Yeah, yeah, he's just not a huge soup guy.
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How did Charlie's vet appointment go?
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That appointment was great, but I'm waiting on results.
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You should. Get like one of them tested or
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something. Two of them, one that's like
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under his armpit that might it hasn't grown as much as the one
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by his groin. But we got them both tested and
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I'm just waiting for results which fingers crossed no cancer.
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Isn't it be an easier because we're going to get the surgery
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to remove them? OK, you are because I know
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you're. Yeah, well, if it's non
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cancerous, it's just like a well, she made it sound like
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just like a small incision and then they take it out where if
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it's cancerous and it's by the groin, we'd have to go to a
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specialist because it's. More and his is large.
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Yes. Yeah, but you had gotten that
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same groin 1 tested in the past or a different one?
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No, because the vet said yeah, fatty tumor.
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Mm hmm. So I was like, OK, so but then
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after your thing where with birdie and I was like.
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Makes you like think about it more, so you'll be happy that
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you have the Peace of Mind whichever route it goes that you
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guys did that. Yep.
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OK, I'll let you know when I hear.
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But and then you're taking Bertie for her follow up.
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Yep, she has her follow up this morning.
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Obviously you already know this, but for anyone, they did get
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clear margins, which is amazing. So that was obviously what we're
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looking for. So now it's just a matter of
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finishing up healing and then we're gonna talk while I'm in
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there too, just like any additional like diet support we
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can do for her and stuff. And yeah, so hopefully this is
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the last appointment for a while.
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I guess when Casey took her 'cause when he had to bring her
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in last week just to get it checked to make sure it wasn't
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like infected at all, Casey said that when the vet came in, she.
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So the how this vet is set up, I really like it 'cause you text
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him when you're there and they tell you which room to go into
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and you can access it from the outside.
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So you go in like these glass doors and you just you go into
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whatever room they tell you to go into.
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So it's nice you never have to go through lobbies or anything
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like that. So it's probably awesome for
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owners and have like reactive dogs.
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But when the vet came in, I guess Birdie got up and started
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jumping on the door to like leave because for her this is
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like obviously the last thing for her was really traumatic.
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They even said, like, you know, that's probably why she had such
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a hard time, like under anesthesia.
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She was so anxious when they were like prepping her for it
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and stuff, which is so interesting because like, I
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don't see her as like an anxious dog.
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She can lean into that sometimes.
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It makes sense. She's like never had any of that
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stuff done before. And like we just dropped her and
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left. But this is a newer vet to us.
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So she literally had her first appointment and then she the
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next appointment after that was like getting the test of the
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tumor. And then everything from that
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has been like surgery. So she's had like just this
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place sucks. Like she's never had like a good
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experience there at all. So the fact that she literally
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tried to exit stage left when the vet came in, and this vet is
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like, she's so nice. But you know, Bertie doesn't see
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her as nice. She's like, you do scary things
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to me. I was like, she tried jumping on
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the door and he's like, yeah, I'm like, Oh my gosh.
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He's like, oh, yeah, She was panicked.
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I'm like, girl, it's. So interesting how dogs, I'm
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sure they like, remember stuff like that.
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And then I was like, oh, hi, I'm a dog trainer.
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Like, you know, I don't ever like, I mean, honestly, when I
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see how Birdie is in the vet, I'm like, to me, I'm like, she's
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got to be an Angel compared to other dogs.
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She just is nervous like. She's.
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Just like, you know, a little standoffish, but yeah.
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So we'll see how she does today. I don't know if she'll jump at
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the window with me, but maybe. She definitely leans into her
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like I'm the baby around Casey, I mean.
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I mean like a little big and bird.
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OK, well. Good.
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Anything else hilarious besides your poop dream this week?
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Shopping was wonderful. That was so fun getting pictures
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from you. Oh my gosh, that was so.
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That was my favorite shopping trip I've.
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Ever been? So have you done anything to go
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wear those jeans yet? No, but I think we're gonna go
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back last. Was it last Friday or Thursday
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to this restaurant on Park Ave. It's a newer 1 and it got, I
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know you would really like it. Well, they have these drinks
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because I love the bee's knees. But we went to this little
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Italian place a few weeks back and it was not a good
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experience. And I really hate that because
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I, I don't know if it's, I'm a food snob, but I like liking
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things that's. That's very normal.
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OK, well let's make sure I'm going to leave my house and like
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go somewhere I haven't been get. Ready.
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Yes, you do work there. Exactly.
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Did not like it. Was it that?
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Experience just based on food or was the environment like what
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was? The environment was cute, it was
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like a little Italian place, but they didn't have cause again,
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we've talked about this. If I'm gonna get a drink, I want
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it to be a cute cocktail or whatever.
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I could only get some wine, which I didn't love.
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And then they bring out, which I thought I just guess I didn't
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read it right. Appetizer.
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I thought it would be like fried calamari.
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You know you ever got that before?
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It's like fried so you don't see the squid part or octopus,
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whatever it is. This one not fried.
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Basically little bodies of squid coming out in red sauce.
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And I'm like. Was this more of like a coastal
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Italian restaurant? I don't know what that would
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look like. Yeah, I guess I don't know how
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to explain it. Like was there a lot of more
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like fish options and stuff on the menu?
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Yeah, 'cause I got some lobster ravioli.
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Huge mistake. It was terrible.
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The. Terrible.
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The ravioli was like way too al dente.
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Which I never. Want from my ravioli and then
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the I don't like lobster apparently.
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I don't know why I got it, no. OK, Yeah, it it can like it
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tastes a little bit more sea like.
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Yes, fishy. Uh huh, I love but.
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Oh, I really like. Yeah, I don't know.
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I feel like if overall like it wasn't great, it probably just
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wasn't the best place. I don't know.
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No, and that and so I don't know why I got that.
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I was just trying to be like, let me try something different.
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I would never get terrible. So then this place we went.
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Did Bobby like what he got? No, he got pork belly and
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usually the top of it is supposed to be crispy and it
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wasn't. So that wasn't very good 'cause
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he was like, oh, you can have some of mine.
21:20
Don't. Like your it.
21:23
I feel like sometimes it's helpful when the other person's
21:25
like, I don't really love mine either because even though it
21:28
doesn't matter if you don't love yours, like you're allowed to
21:30
not like it makes you feel a little bit better.
21:31
Like, see, it's not just me. Oh yeah, picky.
21:35
Yes. And then so when he offered
21:37
that, I was like, oh, yay. And then it wasn't that good
21:39
either. But this place we went was so
21:41
good. And they had It's like Bee's
21:44
knees but with orange juice. Oh my gosh.
21:47
So. Less.
21:49
Yeah, it was so yummy. That was a great experience.
21:52
Got some pasta, some, I think a steak that was really good.
21:56
And then like some shrimp, a shrimp cocktail, which seems
22:00
pretty basic, but theirs was so good for an appetizer, so it was
22:03
great. So I think we're gonna do.
22:05
Yeah, fun. We went to Italian for Casey's
22:08
birthday. Oh yeah, yeah.
22:10
So we started the day off with I had surprised him and booked a
22:15
tee time for us to go golfing. And I knew it was gonna be like
22:18
a hit or miss time of year to do that.
22:21
But I love doing like, I love trying to find something that I
22:26
can do to surprise someone. If I can like that's just like,
22:30
unless it's someone that I know does not like surprises, like
22:33
then I won't do anything or I'll just like bring him something
22:37
special. But Casey, I think he likes
22:40
surprises. So this past weekend he's like,
22:43
I'm gonna go golfing with Craig this weekend.
22:46
I'm like, OK, great. And he's telling me where he's
22:48
going. So he went on Saturday and it
22:50
was a golf course he's never been to.
22:52
So that's the one that I booked us for because we know people
22:56
that basically he's like the GM of the golf course.
23:00
And so then I'm thinking, Oh my gosh, he's going to the golf
23:04
course I just booked for us. Like, are you kidding me?
23:07
But whatever. I'm like, OK, so he went on
23:10
Saturday and then I had like a 748 tea time for us on Monday
23:14
morning. And I'm just watching the
23:16
weather because, of course, every day this week it's like,
23:19
you know, pretty clear. And on his birthday, it's like
23:22
100% chance of thunderstorms. And I'm like, but I was like
23:25
watching the hourly and I'm like, OK, I think we're gonna be
23:27
fine. So I, like, could not sleep
23:30
because I'm thinking like, Oh my gosh, what am I gonna do if we
23:32
don't do this? Like, I don't have any backup
23:34
plan. So I got up in the morning.
23:37
I got up at like 5:30 just 'cause I'm like, I, you know,
23:39
for me, that's early. Yeah.
23:42
So I got up and I made him French toast and I brought it to
23:44
him in bed with a candle on it. And then had him open like his
23:49
card and stuff. And then I was like, I laid out
23:51
his outfit the night before so that he didn't like, you know,
23:55
totally know what we were doing. And he's like trying to guess
23:57
and stuff. And I'm like, I'm just not
23:58
responding to you. So we left a little bit early
24:02
and I'm like, OK, we'll go get like coffees before we go.
24:04
So I wanted to hit up this coffee shop.
24:06
It's called Mocha, and it was kind of in the same, like, area.
24:10
Well, I entered into my GPS just because I'm like, I'm gonna add
24:13
a stop. I don't know how to get to this
24:14
golf course, and it's the morning time, so I want to take
24:17
me the quickest route. It takes us this roundabout way.
24:22
I've never gone to get to the coffee shop way longer than what
24:25
it normally is. I'm like, hey, and then we get
24:28
there again. Mind you, we've always loved our
24:31
lattes from here. Yeah, the line was really,
24:34
really long. So there's a walk up window.
24:36
So Casey's like I'll just go up to the walk up window and I'm
24:38
like, OK, great. That was nice and quick and
24:40
efficient. He's walking to the car with my
24:43
I could just tell by the color. I'm like, this is not gonna be
24:47
good. It was flavored milk like the
24:50
when you had S it was basically milk with like did someone
24:55
sneeze a little espresso in it? Not.
24:58
Actually sneeze. Like that amount that you like?
25:02
You you could tell. Yes, and we didn't have time to
25:05
like go up and be like, hey, like, Oh no, these aren't good.
25:08
So we just didn't drink them. We literally were just like I, I
25:12
don't wanna drink hot milk or well, mine was iced.
25:14
I'm like, I'm not looking to drink iced milk.
25:18
So I'm like. Well, that was a bust.
25:19
And not only it took us. So then I'm like, oh, wow, well,
25:22
this is an experience, a good story to tell.
25:25
And then we are pulling up to the golf course.
25:28
He's like, oh, that's where Craig and I went golfing this
25:30
past weekend. I'm like, he still doesn't know.
25:32
He has no idea. Like why would I have us like
25:35
dressed up, like warm enough to be outside because it was like a
25:38
chilly morning. And then I pull in and he's
25:40
like, what? I'm like, we're going golfing
25:43
and he's like, you're golfing with me because he always wants
25:46
me to like golf with him. I'm just I my attention span is
25:50
like minimal. I'm not good, but I am funny.
25:54
I'm I think I'm a good time going golfing with because.
25:57
I bet you are. No idea what clubs you're
25:59
supposed to grab. I'm just like driver like for
26:01
everything. I'm like, I'm gonna use my
26:02
driver for this and so but it was fun.
26:06
We just did what's called like a 3 park horse.
26:10
So all of the holes were only like, I don't know, it just
26:13
basically makes it a much shorter drive when you're
26:17
hitting and like you're supposed to be able to get it in the hole
26:22
within like three hits. That would be par.
26:25
OK, I was like six hits, But anyway, yeah.
26:30
That's good. Yeah, my first one.
26:33
So I just like whacked it and it totally like cut to the right.
26:38
And so I'm like, ah, not bad. And then we go over to it and
26:40
it's like right in front of a tree.
26:42
And he's like, OK, you want to like kind of, you know, you can
26:45
just hear him. You're going to want to kind of
26:47
angle your body this way so you can kind of go around the tree.
26:49
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, all right, sounds good.
26:51
I go smoke it right into the tree.
26:53
And so it just flings and goes the opposite direction.
26:56
I'm like, all right, we're doing good.
27:00
But yeah, so that was really fun.
27:02
It was like windy and cold, but whatever we like.
27:05
We had a fun time. And then, yeah, then we just did
27:09
some like normal, like work stuff, 'cause obviously we still
27:12
had all the dogs and stuff. And then we went out to an
27:15
Italian restaurant for dinner and that was really nice.
27:17
We got Beezne's. Yeah.
27:21
And then Casey got shrimp scampi and I got, I got ravioli, which
27:27
I never get ravioli. And mine were just cheese
27:29
ravioli. It was like really yummy sauce.
27:33
And then I added chicken. It was delish.
27:36
Yeah. And we got this really yummy,
27:37
like, kale salad to start with some, what's it called?
27:43
Eggplant fritters. And they were bomb.
27:46
This restaurant that we went to, you and Bobby would love.
27:49
We need to go when you guys are here.
27:51
OK, yes. Yeah, the vibes in it are so
27:53
cool. Like we've we've been there
27:55
multiple times for like anniversaries and stuff like
27:57
that. We love it.
27:58
Oh wait, so did they have bees knees on the menu?
28:01
No, OK, I asked for it. Yeah.
28:04
I was like do you know what? I made the bees knees.
28:06
It was it was good. It was not as good as the one
28:08
from Don't Move. Yeah, that's not fun.
28:13
Yeah, it was really fun. And then he made the brown
28:16
butter cookies. Yes, I made those the day before
28:18
his birthday, brought those to. Oh yeah.
28:20
And then we also went to Stephen AJ's to work out on his
28:23
birthday. So I brought cookies for
28:25
everyone and. Yeah.
28:27
Yeah, they were delish. What flour do you use when you
28:30
make those? AP.
28:33
OK, I know. But like, what's the brand?
28:36
King Arthur. OK, all right, 'cause I used the
28:39
all-purpose, but like the Commute 1 and I think that it I
28:43
think that flour changes something.
28:45
So what did it come out like? They were still really good, but
28:48
you know how yours like, really when they're cooking spread out?
28:52
Yeah, mine do not. Mine stay in like a like, let me
28:55
literally grab one. They look like a normal cookie.
28:57
It just looks so different than yours.
29:02
So that's the only reason I'm like, I just remember yours.
29:07
And then I was like, did I brown the butter?
29:11
Oh, but that's cute. So they're smaller.
29:13
Yeah, they're smaller. And I probably just made a
29:16
smaller ball because I got quite like, I think I was able to make
29:22
like, I don't know, 18. Oh wow.
29:25
Yeah. So I just think I used also less
29:26
batter for each ball. But yeah, when I was looking in
29:30
the oven when they were baking, I'm like, they're not
29:33
flattening. I'm like so I don't know.
29:36
I guess I can make sense with that flour.
29:38
Yeah, they taste great. How long would you say you brown
29:41
the butter for? So that's always kind of tricky
29:44
because it can be on the verge of burning.
29:47
OK, I don't think I did mine long enough then.
29:49
Did it get brown? A little bit, but like when I
29:52
was reading the instructions it says like definitely keep it on
29:55
the lower side. So like I was getting like the
29:58
white where they call it like the milk crystals and stuff.
30:01
Like I was getting that. But if it was start to like
30:05
Babble too much, I would turn it down.
30:07
Like and I was doing a lot of stirring, but mine never got to
30:10
the point where I felt it was going to burn.
30:12
Okay. So I wonder if I should have
30:14
gotten it to that point a little bit.
30:16
Well, recently when I the last few that I made, it does
30:19
something where it kind of bypasses the crystals and it
30:23
starts foaming and then you can see what color it is.
30:26
OK, so then I only let it go like a minute more and then I
30:29
take it off and what I see is that it's brown, but not like
30:33
dark, dark brown. But I feel like, I mean I don't
30:36
know what the science is behind it of the difference in taste,
30:39
but they always taste good. Also, I did not realize how much
30:43
butter. Oh my.
30:48
God, a lot of butter. Oh, I mean, duh, brown butter
30:50
cookies. But I'm like, this is so much
30:53
butter. I know, that's why they're
30:55
delicious. So much better.
30:57
Yeah, I'm just not going to sugar one time.
30:59
I mean, they're just because then you just have them all the
31:01
time. And then I just like some people
31:04
would be like, put them in the freezer.
31:07
Well, that's like the time when I told you I was just going to
31:09
throw away the rest of it and you were like, I feel like.
31:12
Personally victimized with that I.
31:15
Don't have it here, We'll. Tap in in the comments you guys.
31:19
I know we might have mentioned this, but Bethany made these
31:23
delicious cookies. I go in and she, you know, put
31:28
them all in the tray and was about to put them in the oven.
31:30
There's probably enough dough left to do almost a whole
31:35
another tray, if not at least a half a tray, and Bethany was
31:38
just going to throw it away would.
31:40
You do that with y'all here. I would definitely do that with
31:43
myself here. Are you serious?
31:46
It's just like with the apple pie I love making.
31:49
An apple pie and eat a piece. I could well So what I could do?
31:53
Roll the rest away. Well, I could, Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
31:57
Oh, yeah. Well, this is where it's like
31:58
food issues from the past where I I have to do, I have to do
32:05
that. And it doesn't bother me at all,
32:06
because if it's not here, then it's not here.
32:09
See I think my brain issue is I feel like so wasteful if I do
32:13
that. Like I even have a hard time
32:15
throwing. I mean, obviously if something
32:17
goes bad it's like you're to throw it away, but I genuinely
32:19
like have a hard time with that. Oh, because I think about how
32:23
I'll feel after I eat it. OK, I could care less about the
32:26
wastefulness of it. It's terrible.
32:28
But I would rather throw it away than have it five days a week
32:31
and be like, Oh my God, there's you think, but there's a lot of
32:35
butter in a the cookies, an apple pie crust.
32:39
So much butter. Oh my gosh, I almost wish I was
32:43
more of a Baker because then I'd probably be like, I can't do
32:46
this, but if I don't know what's being made for me, my.
32:51
OK, well, that's like those tortillas Casey makes.
32:54
There's butter in them. Yeah, there's butter in them.
32:57
I didn't know there's butter and tortillas.
32:59
Not all tortillas, there's not a ton of butter in them for like.
33:02
The I, I did not know that there was butter in tortillas.
33:06
So then when I saw that recipe, I'm like, Oh my God, there's a
33:08
bunch of butter in all tortillas.
33:11
I don't think so. OK.
33:13
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
33:15
Oh well, now I wanna make a apple pie 'cause I am in full
33:21
garden mode. Are you?
33:23
Oh my. Gosh, are things blooming for
33:25
you? Blooming.
33:26
Really. What do you think?
33:28
Of these sprouts for snails. Snails.
33:32
Slugs. Slugs.
33:33
Yeah. How?
33:33
That's basically a snail without the shell, I think.
33:35
But they were eating my Zinnia. Those are my favorite flowers.
33:40
They make me so happy. And so then I got these little
33:43
seedling pods and I was putting them in and they weren't growing
33:47
for like a week or week and 1/2. I just, I there's something you
33:51
have to do with seedlings. Well, I don't know.
33:54
Apparently I wasn't watering them enough because the nature
33:57
rained or rained. Nature, Mother Nature, gave some
34:00
water. Yes, and I saw two sprouts
34:04
because it was soaking them. So then I'm like, Oh my gosh, I
34:07
just have to water them more. So then I started watering them
34:10
more and now there's almost a sprout in every single one and
34:13
it's the most strange, addicting thing ever.
34:17
Oh, that's awesome. We went to the greenhouse, the
34:19
one that we took you and Bobby to.
34:21
Yeah. Yeah.
34:22
And we didn't get any. We're gonna get some.
34:24
We're probably gonna go back this week.
34:26
Some plants for like the front of our house where the rocks
34:29
are. We want to put more big plants
34:30
in there. The only reason we didn't get
34:31
any, they still had great options is that we heard one of
34:34
the workers telling a different person that they were getting 8
34:36
more truckloads in this week. So we're like, Oh well, we will
34:39
wait for the 8 truckloads. Yes, but we did get our little
34:44
herbs that we put on the deck. Those hanging.
34:46
Yeah, planters that we have. So we got our basil, we got
34:49
cilantro, butter, leaf lettuce, which we ate them last night and
34:56
then we got strawberry plants that we put in like a bunch of
34:58
different pots. We've never done like a Berry
35:01
before. Yeah.
35:03
So we'll see how that goes. But it's gonna take a while for
35:07
here 'cause like even right now I think it's like 50 out, like
35:10
it's not OK. We need some decent warm days
35:14
and sunshine for especially strawberries, so I don't even
35:18
think goats will start to even probably butt until like June
35:20
for us. But that's so exciting, I.
35:23
Know so now I'm like going out there and checking I'm like what
35:25
do I expect it's going to be there but.
35:27
That's the addicting part. It's like, this is something
35:30
we're like, well, yesterday Heather and Korean came over.
35:34
Heather needed help with walking by a reactive dog she's working
35:38
with. Yeah, but Korean was texting me
35:40
about garden stuff and she got like a garden journal and it got
35:43
me. I have feed off of people's
35:46
excitement yes, because pre yesterday I was kind of like
35:50
gardening, yay, but then gardening yay.
35:54
She she was so excited about it and I was like, Oh my God,
35:58
you're right. It's the best.
35:59
So excited. I went excited.
36:02
I like found stuff that's growing that I didn't even know
36:04
was there. Like my lime tree is flowering.
36:06
Didn't know because I just wasn't.
36:08
You weren't giving me the attention it needed.
36:11
So now then I went to the garden store yesterday and Corrine met
36:16
me. She had never been there.
36:18
Have I taken you to Palmer's? OK, well, so it's it's really
36:23
cute garden store off the main road here.
36:26
And we would. Like drive past a lot.
36:28
Yes, OK. And I got a couple of melon
36:32
plants. Little baby melons are on it.
36:35
Oh my gosh, where do you plant those?
36:37
Well so because they will end up taking over filling.
36:42
Their vines. Yes, but that doesn't stop me.
36:46
Like Bobby was like, well, they're going to mow over here.
36:49
And I was like, well, if we if I train the vine to go right
36:53
instead of left, I have some really, I'm really in the mode
36:59
of like, I am going to do this. So hopefully nothing deters me
37:02
from my gardening path because it's very like, this is
37:06
something I think about when you get a plant, It's like the plant
37:08
I have that I got in Wisconsin that I was not taking care of
37:12
very well for like a year. And then you were like, are you
37:15
watering it enough? And I was like, no.
37:17
So now I start watering it like once a week.
37:19
The deep. Water, yes, you just have to do
37:21
once a week deep water. Yes, and it's going great and
37:24
growing, but plants are a lot of responsibility.
37:28
So much responsibility you. Have to keep it alive.
37:31
I even thought about like when we went to Florida.
37:33
So again, we were planning on being there for six weeks.
37:36
Had Mandy come over and she probably thinks I'm a
37:38
psychopath. I counted.
37:39
I have 17 plants, 17 indoor plants that I had to give a full
37:44
rundown on and I'm like, 'cause I'm like, I need them taken care
37:49
of. Like one of them is my pride and
37:51
joy. She's grown.
37:53
She or she grew so much in the two years I've had her.
37:57
All of mine have. So I'm like, I can't just like,
37:59
let them die. No.
38:01
And luckily Mandy's so responsible, but I'm like, she
38:04
probably thinks I'm a crazy person.
38:06
I'm like, OK, so like, you literally need to like, you
38:09
know, bring everyone up to the sink.
38:11
They need a full soak. Like this is going to take like
38:14
a little bit of like an undertaking.
38:15
Like I'll put sticky notes on which ones to do like every
38:18
other week and which ones to do weekly.
38:20
And I'm just literally, I wrote had a whole note sheet about it.
38:24
I'm just thinking. I love that.
38:25
Yeah, I even told her if she needed me to film a video, I
38:28
could. Like.
38:29
I think I got it. OK well I was thinking because I
38:35
was thinking the same thing. I have like 7 ferns which
38:38
require. Yeah, you've got a lot of
38:40
outdoor water. It's too much so, but I love it
38:43
when I'm here and I'm like, I can tend to it.
38:45
But like, when Hannah stays here in June, Oh my God, I'm gonna
38:49
have to give her instructions on the plants and.
38:51
Not only keep three of my dogs alive, but here talk like take
38:55
care of my ferns. Oh my God, is she taking care of
38:57
the chickens too? Yeah, they're pretty easy
39:00
though. And hopefully because then I go
39:02
to like, Oh my God, what if 11 if one of them like gets sick, I
39:06
don't want, I don't want that on anybody.
39:08
But anyway, that's not, I don't have to pay for that, but it's
39:11
pretty easy. I'm just gonna have her open it
39:13
and then close it at night. Like it used to be where I'd
39:15
have someone come over twice a day, have them out for like 15
39:19
minutes, then put them away. But they're out all day long and
39:22
we haven't had any Hawks or anything.
39:23
So yeah, hoping it's OK. It'll be OK, Make sure she gives
39:27
them worms. Oh yeah, for sure.
39:30
Like they need their treats. Which depends.
39:32
On for candy. What?
39:36
You guys are gone for a week. It's going to be like Thursday
39:39
through Monday or Saturday, not long.
39:42
Oh, that's not far. That's not long.
39:43
And I think we're actually going to take Louis.
39:46
You are. Louie and Johnny.
39:48
Really. Yes.
39:51
Why? Just because you're nervous
39:52
about having. A little bit.
39:54
I mean, this is insane. I'm like a crazy person.
39:57
I feel like I'm like an owner who needs to drop their dog
39:59
somewhere and is like, no, but what if it doesn't go?
40:02
I don't know. Yeah.
40:04
But is that why? Because otherwise, isn't she
40:06
gonna be kind of a handful at the house?
40:08
No, she's she's really easy. Well, and her and Bonnie are so
40:11
good in their kennels. Yeah, we take them on walks and
40:15
yeah, so we'll see. But I just feel like it would be
40:18
easier even though. Are you?
40:21
Guys driving the van. Yes, and we're going to rent.
40:25
I have to call and schedule it. So fingers crossed we can rent a
40:28
golf cart. Nice.
40:30
I'm so excited about. Yeah, that'll be so fun.
40:32
Yeah. OK cool so now she only stick
40:36
your I mean Theo and Charlie are.
40:40
So easy. Yeah.
40:42
So part of me is like, I want to make it easy.
40:43
I mean Louis. Easy too.
40:44
It's just she just has to get comfortable with you.
40:47
Yes. Yeah.
40:49
Did you get any questions? No, I I could be like, yeah, I
40:54
got so many. The only one I got was literally
40:57
someone just being like, did you guys get clean margins for
40:59
birdie? So it was just asking that,
41:01
yeah. That is something that's funny,
41:05
so weird. I feel like years ago, and I
41:08
hate saying the whole thing, like social media has changed so
41:11
much. It really it feels that way.
41:13
It feels very saturated and all of that.
41:14
But. I also feel like go ahead, sorry
41:17
not to, I'm totally interrupting.
41:19
No, I used to ask a question on a question box and get so many
41:22
questions. Yes now, well I haven't for a
41:25
while. Maybe I get 3 and it's like.
41:28
The thing that's interesting is I feel like I don't know if some
41:30
people like if they ask a question, don't necessarily want
41:34
to then go listen to a podcast to get the answer.
41:36
I still get plenty of people that are DM ING me for questions
41:40
and I'm like OK, well when I put a question box up, you don't ask
41:43
a question. So I'm like, OK, well, you want
41:47
my advice, but you want it in your inbox personalized to you,
41:54
No. Oh, I had someone yesterday.
41:58
Oh my God. So because I've been posting
42:01
more about and you're right, I think it's because I have more
42:04
people following who are there for the dog Diaries and now I'm
42:06
posting my E collar stuff and they're like, so a lot of people
42:10
have opinions and I've been sharing because one, I've in the
42:13
past, I've always been like, I don't want to, I don't want to
42:16
share something that makes an owner who uses the E caller
42:19
believe that. It's almost like I wanted to
42:21
protect their perspective about E caller training and only share
42:25
the positive stuff about it. We're now I kind of want to shed
42:29
a light on how ridiculous some people, their opinion about E
42:33
caller training kind of just shedding a light on this is what
42:36
they think. Like it's insane.
42:38
And so this one person is messaging me.
42:41
Oh my gosh, just about What is the thing where it's like a Neo
42:44
Popo? Yeah, nae popo.
42:48
Nae popo So I've always I've always wanted to talk about dog
42:53
training in a way that's more speaking like an odor
42:56
understands it. So anytime someone says that to
43:00
me or she was like, I saw that you have a podcast, Naeopopo.
43:05
Naeopo, yeah. She said that word and then she
43:09
was saying the quadrants and she was like, so when you use the E
43:12
collar, are you using it in this way like a very scientific or
43:17
whatever you want to call it? I'm always so that like not
43:25
repels me, but it's like I don't want to talk in that way about
43:29
dog training. I think it's not real or it's
43:31
not like relatable. I'm just a dog trainer.
43:33
Not to say that anyone who uses those terms is wrong.
43:36
I think everyone has a different perspective and how they view
43:38
stuff. I have no desire to have a
43:41
conversation about the four quadrants and what.
43:44
Was she like, was she trying? Because like a lot of those
43:47
terms to me is like, was she in support of?
43:51
No, no, it was pretty. You could almost always tell you
43:55
know like someone. I'm so confused though because
43:57
if she's bringing up like Nae Popo in the four quadrants and
44:00
she actually fully understands those, then she would understand
44:03
how and why the E color actually being applied works wonders.
44:10
That's not the the gist of what I'm saying.
44:13
That's why I'm trying to like like.
44:15
I get where you're saying of like, especially most owners
44:18
we're talking to, they're very intelligent people.
44:21
And it's not to say that we like dumb things down for them, but
44:24
it'd be the same thing as if I can't even tell my owners this
44:27
of you know, This is why it's important for when your dog goes
44:30
home that you're also teaching them the language that they've
44:33
learned during training with you, because it'd be like you
44:36
being thrown into a foreign country and they're speaking
44:39
their language to you and you're expected to understand it.
44:42
That's what I tell people. Like even when, you know, people
44:45
are like, I'm telling my dog to sit, I'm telling them, you know,
44:48
get over here, come on, don't do that.
44:50
They know better. I'm like, they have no idea what
44:52
you're saying. They're just feeling their
44:53
energy until you apply. That's why people get a little
44:56
bit like, what should I say the command first or this first?
45:00
And I'm like, OK, I just want you to think about like,
45:04
whatever way that you apply it, stay consistent with that
45:08
because we're teaching a dog what a sit means.
45:10
You sit, could be poop. Yes.
45:12
Like you could label it poop and it doesn't matter.
45:15
Dogs don't come out knowing what those verbals mean and stuff.
45:18
So that's where I try to give my owners like things where it's
45:23
like in their human brain they're gonna connect it to, not
45:26
me flooding them with Napo PO and the four quadrants, which is
45:30
all like things that both of us do.
45:34
Like Napo PO is basically the concept of pressure and release,
45:39
but it's like I we don't need to explain that to some owners want
45:45
to dive deep into that and that's great, like perfect.
45:48
But most that we're working with need to just understand how to
45:54
communicate with the dog that they love so much that they want
45:57
to be able to stop certain behaviors and cultivate good
46:00
ones. Yes, it's like we can help with
46:03
that. Let's keep a little bit more
46:05
simplistic for the owners because I think if we
46:07
overcomplicate things, people go to analysis paralysis and then
46:10
just not do anything with their dogs.
46:12
It's just so overwhelming. It's information overload.
46:14
They already have that. It's like.
46:16
And I also wondered, like, did this person think that you were
46:18
actually, like, interested in, like, engaging in this
46:22
conversation? I doubt it.
46:26
I don't, but that's the thing that's weird about DMS like that
46:29
where and right before that there was a animal behaviorist,
46:33
whatever that was actually nice with she was typing in a way
46:38
that's like comes across nice and where most people, you can
46:42
just tell they're being defensive and they're trying to
46:44
prove me wrong and prove what I don't know.
46:46
And well, then obviously you should be using the E collar.
46:49
I don't know. That's what that one person felt
46:51
like. And so, but this other person,
46:56
she was mentioning about suppression and how when you're
46:59
when you use the E caller and she was talking as if she knew.
47:02
And this is the most fascinating thing that I'm finding with
47:05
people who are anti E caller. Most of them have never used the
47:09
E caller. Most of them have never seen
47:11
someone use the E caller. They have just heard things from
47:14
other narrative. Yeah, shot caller feeds that
47:18
narrative. Suppression feeds that
47:19
narrative. And then the whole thing of,
47:22
well, what she was saying is it suppresses the behavior, but you
47:25
don't get to the underlying emotion.
47:27
It's almost like they're copying and pasting things.
47:29
Yeah. And it's like how?
47:32
I don't. I think that's where.
47:33
It's like like you and I both use ChatGPT for things, but it's
47:38
like that sounds like such a ChatGPT answer where it's like
47:41
you guys, if we plug anything into ChatGPT, of course it's
47:44
going to feed us what it learns that we want.
47:48
So that's why I like respectfully, you can't go into
47:50
it and like expect to get medical advice and expect for it
47:53
to answer all your questions. Because if you say something
47:56
like I'm really nervous about, you know, my dog's having this,
48:00
like, should I be concerned? They're like, I totally
48:02
understand your concern, Caitlin.
48:04
And then it's like, here's what you should do.
48:06
It's like a great starting point for certain things, but like
48:09
what that person's saying to you, it just sounds like a copy
48:12
and paste of something like that or something on one of like the
48:16
platforms where it's anti this that's just spewing information
48:21
that like some people truly firmly believe in.
48:24
That's OK, but like. Oh sure, do your.
48:27
Own due diligence, actually have understanding of it.
48:30
Well, then someone else who commented, and I'm just saying
48:33
this like again, because it's more, it's been very eye opening
48:36
because I've never looked at it from this perspective.
48:38
I've always just felt defensive and just want to like delete
48:40
stuff where now I'm like wow like someone actually compared
48:45
it to electrocuting a human. Like what?
48:48
That is a little. Wild, wild.
48:51
So that's what I'm saying when people say that.
48:53
And then the whole narrative that is built around it just
48:57
shows you how words have such power and we know that.
49:00
But and then someone else commented on a video of mine,
49:06
You you could get the same results without using an E
49:09
collar and that argument too. It's like, well yeah, sure it
49:13
was some dogs. You don't have to use a knee
49:14
collar. Not everyone has to use an E
49:16
collar. But then also.
49:17
Like the same time, like First off, I'd like to see that
49:23
whoever's telling you that to come get those results, you can
49:26
handle that dog. But then also why are we even
49:30
making it as like the E collar is this evil thing?
49:34
I look at it more as like a sure I could get the results without
49:37
the E collar, but this dog gets to live a life with the E collar
49:41
in an incredible way. That's how I view it.
49:44
Like yes. Me too.
49:45
Like, I don't even, I literally don't even get it.
49:47
Like I love bringing my dog's E collars out like yesterday.
49:50
Rhodey rarely wears his E collar anymore.
49:52
And it's not because I'm, I don't want to use my E collar on
49:55
him. It's just his life is different
49:57
than like he's, you know, so much easier to fulfill.
50:00
So we don't go do unfortunately as many adventures just because
50:03
old man can't handle them. But we took them yesterday, got
50:06
their E collars out. He still hears it get unplugged
50:08
and he's like, I hear his old tip, tip tip tap and we took him
50:12
to that bike path that's like over by the horse farm.
50:16
But I thought maybe I've maybe I haven't taken you there.
50:19
We definitely need to go there, but it's a really quiet area
50:23
where we're able to take them off leash.
50:25
And he was just like, he had such a good energy day.
50:27
So he's just running and I'm like Casey, I don't even know
50:30
how his like tone recall is. I'm like just practice 1 and he
50:33
here's the tone and he just comes running to Casey.
50:36
I'm like, oh, he's still got it. But like our dogs like birdies
50:40
almost annoying when I get hers unplugged.
50:42
Like, Oh my gosh, Oh yeah, we're going to do something.
50:46
I'm like, I just can't with people with that type of stuff.
50:50
Well, and it's also like, I think for some reason people
50:55
there's so many like, well, since I've been just looking,
50:58
trying to look closer at why people are so against E collar
51:01
and one of them is, well, since this is how I'm thinking of it.
51:05
Well, you get results quicker with the E collar, so there must
51:08
be something wrong with it. It's like why?
51:10
Why are owners supposed to just struggle with their dog for
51:13
years? And also that's never the thing
51:15
that people in the comments want to ask.
51:17
How is the owner doing? Is the owner enjoying more with
51:19
their dog? It's never about the owner.
51:21
And since when did we like villainize efficiency?
51:25
I know like we literally are Americans.
51:27
Well, I know some people are obviously not Americans that are
51:29
following us and stuff, but like the people that we work with
51:32
that are we're working for in person, we all have little to no
51:36
patients. We're constantly in like go go
51:39
go mode. So many people don't have time
51:40
to to walk their dogs. So why wouldn't we love the fact
51:45
that we can give a really clear communication of efficiency and
51:50
that means an owner and a dog is living a better life.
51:52
Like it is absolute. Like that's why kudos to you for
51:57
opening up that because I know it's just going to give you more
51:59
to put into your book. But I'm like, I do not have the
52:04
patience for people in those narratives.
52:07
Well, because now it feels just like research in a way, or it's
52:10
almost like they're. Yeah, go ahead and comment
52:13
negatively on stuff and tell me how you really feel.
52:15
Great, That's really helpful for me actually.
52:17
Thank you so much. I think has been annoying to
52:19
people, I'm sure, but I literally am.
52:21
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but I'll reply back.
52:24
So like, OK heart, Yeah, but. Thank you so much.
52:27
This is actually really helpful. But yeah, to that person who who
52:33
said, well, you could get these results without the E collar,
52:35
that's really easy for someone who is not working with the dog
52:38
that I'm showing on this video. And two, great.
52:41
Tell me how I would like to see videos of you doing this.
52:44
How long does it take? I would like to know that too.
52:46
Like there's so much nuance, but things like shot caller,
52:50
shutdown suppression, like those are all painting a picture that
52:55
people who are anti E caller. I mean, it's actually really
52:58
good branding for anti E caller so.
53:01
Totally. It's just fascinating.
53:02
It's so interesting too. And like I haven't had a lot of
53:04
this, but I've had a handful of purely positive trainers that
53:07
like I couldn't share that shadowed me.
53:12
I've had multiple video calls with quote UN quote, purely
53:14
positive that have been curious because but it's interesting.
53:17
I've even had one with one that they have a decent platform and
53:25
they I would say like purely positive from standpoint.
53:28
I'm not bashing also like balanced or E collar but
53:31
definitely does not promote or use it.
53:34
But based on their videos you would think everything is very
53:42
easy and seamless for them. They're getting tons of results,
53:45
which probably is true. Just like we have dogs where
53:48
it's like, maybe it doesn't feel like it's the, you know what I
53:52
would consider the type of dog that I'm typically like sending
53:57
home. Like for instance, Piper, who I
53:59
just had the really nervous one. Yeah, she was for her so
54:04
amazing. Like her go home.
54:05
Think it went so well. I was so proud of her.
54:07
But like, there's a lot of things that I'm like, this
54:09
didn't feel normal for us. Like, yeah, she's not like it's
54:12
one of the dogs. I was very much like, do not
54:14
take her off a leash like outside.
54:16
Like she's not ready for that. Like even practice recall,
54:20
please. Like she's not even close to
54:21
that. So it's like and I kind of have
54:24
my dogs where it's like this feels like a two week
54:26
straightforward dog, but you and I talk about even our stories
54:30
and stuff like the struggles and like what they're, you know,
54:33
having a hard time with or what I'm having a hard time with this
54:36
trainer. I don't feel like shares a lot
54:37
of that and that's OK. But to me it looks very much
54:40
like here's the dogs before, here's the after.
54:44
There was one of these dogs that she was doing before and after
54:47
video and like now look what they can all do and stuff had
54:50
did a virtual with me and was like they're struggling so bad.
54:55
They can't like get, you know, barely any progress.
54:58
We're actually talking like would the E caller be like and
55:01
I'm like, I'm like so glad that you guys are getting curious,
55:05
but it's like so unfortunate that that's what's being
55:07
painted. It's like they're from just
55:10
treats at home with a harness on.
55:14
They're doing amazing. No, they're not.
55:16
They're struggling, and it's not because the trainer's not trying
55:20
to help them. Like this person's an awesome
55:22
person. I just run my small exposure
55:26
with them. But it's just kind of like, Oh
55:29
well, you know, that's why people also think that, well,
55:32
you don't need an E collar to do this.
55:34
So. That owner and and honestly I
55:37
have owners that are at home with an E collar that still
55:39
struggle. Yeah, yes.
55:41
It's just. It's not a fix all, it's just
55:44
another tool. Yeah, exactly.
55:46
And it's like if people also don't, that's probably where
55:48
like how you're like, you're such a disciplined person.
55:51
I feel like even just like this career has taught me to be that
55:54
way. Not in a weird like, I can't,
55:56
you know, go outside the box at all.
55:58
And I can't have my ice cream at night.
56:00
But it just having discipline and, you know, building strong
56:06
habits work. Yeah.
56:09
So like, why would I overcomplicate it?
56:11
Like I find that that works for my health and nutrition.
56:14
It works for working with the dogs.
56:15
It helps with building relationships.
56:19
Even just having like, building healthy habits and discipline
56:22
around how you interact with people is like, I feel like it
56:26
feels healthier. Yes.
56:28
So a lot of people don't have that.
56:30
So then they, you know, either say, well, the tool didn't work
56:33
for me or it made it worse, or vice versa, anything.
56:36
Yes, there's always nuance, but it's hard to get that in a
56:40
comment section on Instagram. Totally.
56:43
When I feel like it's also a little bit of like, of course,
56:45
you want to like be nuanced in how you're training and
56:48
implementing the tool. And then I also think some
56:50
people are freaking overcomplicating it.
56:52
Yes, like way overcomplicating it.
56:55
Way like dogs are way cooler and smarter than people are getting
57:01
them credit for, and they're also way less.
57:06
They don't let this outside noise of the human world affect
57:10
them. They're like, that made sense to
57:12
me. Yes.
57:13
Let's move on. I mean, it's just the whole
57:16
thing of like people throwing out, well, you're not addressing
57:19
the emotional side that's happening underneath.
57:22
And it's like dogs are, they're not that complicated.
57:25
And I think it's also like, like whenever we're using the E
57:29
collar, I want to speak for myself because.
57:31
But it's like, if you correct for something, then you're
57:34
helping them understand what to do after.
57:36
And that's really where the process happens.
57:38
Yeah. And that is totally left out of
57:39
the narrative, which is, it's unfortunate, but I get why it's
57:43
hard to like get that picture across when you're just sharing
57:46
a little footage and people want to believe what they want to
57:49
believe. Totally.
57:50
But and then we're not trying to change any person's opinion, but
57:55
we're also like, really? This is what you believe?
57:59
OK. All right.
58:01
Well, that's why I don't ever see us going on to someone's.
58:04
I never will. Only use rewards and we're like
58:07
Oh my God like why? Screw your rewards.
58:09
Like I don't ever see I also I'm not in like the dog training
58:12
world in that way. Like I don't follow accounts and
58:15
stuff, but I rarely see a balanced trainer going off on
58:20
someone else. They probably have, but like I
58:22
have no desire to do that. Like, why do?
58:25
Why that anyway? Yeah, but you gotta, you gotta
58:27
get out. You're going.
58:28
Yeah, 30. A hard cut off.
58:30
Oh yeah, it's 39. Jeez.
58:32
OK, Yep. I gotta head down to the kind of
58:34
room briefly, and then I'm gonna head out and take Bertie.
58:37
All right, well, this is so nice.
58:38
Yeah, so good chatting with you. I hope things get moving and
58:43
consistent for you. Oh, I'm there.
58:45
OK, you're good. I've been there since yesterday.
58:47
Yeah, yeah. Thank you.
58:49
Yep. Awesome.
58:50
All right, enjoy the rest of your day.
58:52
OK, you too. Bye.