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Awards & Superlatives at the Buffalo Bills Bye Week | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: It's thirty eight.
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  Speaker 2: All bills can win in here, Wake puts it down,
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  Speaker 1: of disguise coverage a bit of a fun one. The
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  Speaker 1: Bills are at the by after playing the first eleven
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  Speaker 1: weeks of their so in doing you know, this episode
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  Speaker 1: at the Bye, kind of wanted to align it with
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  Speaker 1: some of the things we see, you know, to a
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  Speaker 1: degree with teams when they go.
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  Speaker 3: Into the bye.
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  Speaker 1: Bye wes are very important for teams in order to
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  Speaker 1: kind of course correct reset some areas. You'll see the
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions are a really good example two years ago
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  Speaker 1: of who they were going into the bye and then
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  Speaker 1: coming out of it. Who they were coming out of
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  Speaker 1: the bye two years ago kind of set the table
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  Speaker 1: for who they were last year and then going into
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  Speaker 1: this year as well. Teams take that ability to again,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, course correct, self scout, tweaks some things.
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  Speaker 1: Being able to have that extra week tying into the
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  Speaker 1: next it allows you to kind of you know, reset
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  Speaker 1: and you know, chart your course a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: with that in mind, wanted to kind of take stock
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  Speaker 1: of who this Buffalo Bills team is after the first
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  Speaker 1: eleven weeks. Hand out some awards and some superlatives for
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  Speaker 1: those first eleven weeks, and also kind of frame and
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  Speaker 1: shade who this team is going forward as they try
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  Speaker 1: to make a push for the division title. I know
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  Speaker 1: it looks pretty good, but you know, no jinx is
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  Speaker 1: they try to make it push for the division title,
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  Speaker 1: potentially winning the AFC and then potentially maybe winning a Super.
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  Speaker 3: Bowl as well.
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  Speaker 1: And in order to have that conversation and have that
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  Speaker 1: journey in this episode, I am joined by one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite people in just in general and especially in
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  Speaker 1: this space, mister Joe Marino, host of Locked on Bills,
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  Speaker 1: Locked On NFL Scouting, and NFL First Read, also author
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  Speaker 1: of Go Bills and Buffalo's Run.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to show, Big, you for taking the time.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate you, Anthony, my guy. Good to be with you.
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  Speaker 5: Good to be here under these circumstances. You know, going
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  Speaker 5: into the bye week after a win against the Chiefs
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  Speaker 5: six in a row. It's a good vibe, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you're in this content creation space, and boyd ave been
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  Speaker 5: been a tough couple of weeks sitting there stilling on
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  Speaker 5: a Chief's loss. Instead, it's a completely different conversation. So man,
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad they won that game for a multitude of reasons,
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  Speaker 5: including how much more fun we're gonna have over the
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  Speaker 5: next two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's funny too, Like going, you and I
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  Speaker 1: were talking offline, and I had an idea for kind
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  Speaker 1: of the wars and superlatives we're gonna hand out tonight,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, might have to tweak some if
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  Speaker 1: it's like a really ugly loss, or if it's a
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  Speaker 1: really great way to kind of put some things into perspective.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess kind of, you know, to set the
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  Speaker 1: table and tone for this episode. And you and I
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  Speaker 1: were talking a bit about it offline, you know, temperature
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  Speaker 1: check for this Bills team sitting here eleven weeks in
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  Speaker 1: nine and two second place in the AFC. One loss
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  Speaker 1: back in the lost column to the Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously they owned that had to head tiebreaker. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this Bills team? You know,
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  Speaker 1: like we talked about offline before we got started, it
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  Speaker 1: got a little ugly there for a minute with those
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  Speaker 1: losses to Baltimore and Houston, but their ability to write
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  Speaker 1: the ship quality win against Kansas City equality win. I
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  Speaker 1: think also to start the year against the Cardinals team
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  Speaker 1: that has really started to turn it around and become
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  Speaker 1: a force a little bit. Where are you on this
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  Speaker 1: Bills team, you know, being nine and two heading into
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  Speaker 1: the bye, we the injuries that they've kind of been
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  Speaker 1: able to weather the storm with. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: overall on this Bill squad?
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  Speaker 5: Really satisfied, Anthony, really satisfied. They certainly got their low
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  Speaker 5: out of the way, and the Ravens and Texans back
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  Speaker 5: to back. I think that Ravens game, the game script
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  Speaker 5: kind of got away from them and it was certainly
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  Speaker 5: when Baltimore was playing their best football. And then the
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  Speaker 5: Houston game, I think too many injuries. I think Josh
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  Speaker 5: chased it a little bit in that game in particular,
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  Speaker 5: and they got it out of their system and bounce
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  Speaker 5: back in one six in a row. I love the
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  Speaker 5: efficiency of this offense. I love the different ways that
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  Speaker 5: they can attack. I love the depth of the playmakers
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  Speaker 5: and what that can be coming out of the by
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  Speaker 5: You know, you think about Cooper, Coleman, can Gage, Shakir Curtis,
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  Speaker 5: Samuel has a pulse, there's a good running back room.
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  Speaker 5: Mac Collins is the next factor. Thawston Knox exists. It's like, man,
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  Speaker 5: that's a really nice arsenal for Josh not to mention
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  Speaker 5: how good this offensive line's playing. They go to the
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  Speaker 5: defense and it's like, my goodness, the big plays just
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  Speaker 5: never stopped coming. And you think about Bobby Babbage and
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  Speaker 5: his first matchup against Andy Reid and how I felt
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  Speaker 5: like he pulled a lot of good levers there. And
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  Speaker 5: you feel like the coaching in general on the defensive
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  Speaker 5: side of the football, with how much turnover has existed
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  Speaker 5: over the last couple of years, there's just a lot
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  Speaker 5: to be excited about, man, And they're stacking wins and
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  Speaker 5: if it's like, go win five to six and see
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  Speaker 5: if you could be the top seed, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they're in a good spot, man, They're in a really
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  Speaker 5: good spot, especially when you layer that with the offseason
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  Speaker 5: conversation that a lot of people had about this team.
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  Speaker 5: And I like to call it a transition year. Some
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  Speaker 5: people called it a rebuilding year.
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  Speaker 1: Or.
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  Speaker 3: I was in the revamp camp. That's the label I
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  Speaker 3: was using.
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  Speaker 5: Some of the expectations that existed out there just didn't
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  Speaker 5: take into account that this is year eight, man, It's
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  Speaker 5: year eight of Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean and it's
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  Speaker 5: not like it's not like an early tenure where there's
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  Speaker 5: not a plan in place to transition and develop and
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  Speaker 5: think about the player development that's existing on this roster
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  Speaker 5: to be able to have guys that could step into
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  Speaker 5: major roles. And the pipeline just feels like it gets
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  Speaker 5: deeper and deeper after every draft class and they're loaded
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  Speaker 5: with draft capital again. This offseason just feels like they're
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  Speaker 5: on a good spot, man, really good one in a
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  Speaker 5: lot of different ways.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny too, how just a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: time can change that you're sitting there and it's three.
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  Speaker 1: They're three and two, ugly loss to Baltimore, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: com you know, in complete lockstep with you. I also
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  Speaker 1: think Baltimore, with how they're built, isn't an ideal matchup
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  Speaker 1: for the Bills. I also think you can say this
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of teams, I guess, but when things
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  Speaker 1: click for Baltimore, they are unstoppable, like they're just a
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  Speaker 1: buzz saw. And things really worked for them. But the
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  Speaker 1: game script really got out of favor for the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: and it showed then the next week some game script
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  Speaker 1: issues against Houston, some injury issues, but still a game
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  Speaker 1: that you realistically could have won. But you're sitting there,
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  Speaker 1: three and two, those are the two best teams you'd
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  Speaker 1: play it played. At that moment, it's looking and ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Fans are again clamoring for McDermott's head on a stick,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, as his tradition here, and to go
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  Speaker 1: from that to being now nine and two and on
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  Speaker 1: this winning streak and beating Kansas City again in the
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  Speaker 1: regular season and setting themselves up and then to your point, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is a really great one that you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: just that ability to again have these depth guys come
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  Speaker 1: in and just not see a significant drop off, even
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  Speaker 1: you know, this week Ryan Vandermark comes in and is
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  Speaker 1: not a whole You're not just like, oh, well, I
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  Speaker 1: knew Ryan Vandermark started because he got looked like seventeen
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  Speaker 1: times in that game. Nope, cam lewis the majority of
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  Speaker 1: this year, Bale inspector, even when he's coming in I
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  Speaker 1: got a point in one of our topics later that
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to mention him for just you know, Milano
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  Speaker 1: is done to start the year. Dorian Williams, you know,
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  Speaker 1: playing up a little bit and again Bernardo goes down,
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  Speaker 1: So you've got spector what you've been able to get
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  Speaker 1: out of Hamlin and wrap the development and trajectory we've
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  Speaker 1: seen for Christian Benford, and I guess even tying into
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  Speaker 1: Benford as well, like the development and trajectory of Taron
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  Speaker 1: Johnson to be coming where he is like just again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, two secondary guys. But the job this coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff has done, from Babbage to McDermott, to Brady to
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  Speaker 1: Chromer to all the individual you know, position coaches, it
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  Speaker 1: really just is this collective effort that I think at
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  Speaker 1: the best of times really gets talked about from a
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  Speaker 1: culture standpoint, but at the worst of times people really
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  Speaker 1: just rake them over the coals left and right. But
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  Speaker 1: when you kind of just look at it from a
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  Speaker 1: baseline level, this is a well run organization from top
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  Speaker 1: to bottom, from the scouts to you know, to the GM,
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  Speaker 1: to the actual on field execution and game planning to
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  Speaker 1: the players. And like you said that pipeline and things
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  Speaker 1: are almost kind of just like in this rinse and
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  Speaker 1: repeat cycle where again, if there was a year for
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  Speaker 1: the Bills to be like five and six after week
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  Speaker 1: eleven or like seven and four or something, ugly. You
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  Speaker 1: feel like it kind of would have been this year.
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  Speaker 1: No jinks for anything in the future. But here they are,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the revamp here or every want to
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  Speaker 1: label it, and they're sitting here nine and two.
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  Speaker 3: It's just they just do it like year after year.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like.
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  Speaker 5: I had a conversation on today's episode of NFL First Read,
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  Speaker 5: which is a podcast that I do with Brett Whitefield
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  Speaker 5: for Fantasy Points. We do it a couple of times
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  Speaker 5: a week Tuesdays and Thursdays. It drops and it's been
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  Speaker 5: a lot of fun. But our conversation today was who
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  Speaker 5: are the actual teams that can win the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: Nice?
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  Speaker 5: And then from there it was who's their most important
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  Speaker 5: player that's not their quarterback? And we got it to
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  Speaker 5: a we came up with seven teams that we think, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: these are the teams that we really think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: can win the Super Bowl this year. And then we
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  Speaker 5: went through each one of them and step one was, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: who are the cornerstones? Who are the guys that deserve
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  Speaker 5: to be part of the conversation, and you to go
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  Speaker 5: to any team the Ravens, It's like Linderbaum, Andrews Flowers,
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  Speaker 5: Henry Matta, Bleek, Rokwan, Marlon Humphrey, Kyle Hamilton. I can
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  Speaker 5: do this for all the other teams, the Eagles, the line.
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  Speaker 5: You get to the Bills and I'm talking to Brett
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  Speaker 5: about it, He's like, who is it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like, well, I got Dean Tawkins and
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  Speaker 5: Greg Russau and Terrell Bernard and Christian Bedford. He goes, Joe,
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  Speaker 5: you just told me that Josh Allen's the MVP of
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  Speaker 5: this league. Like the players, the household names that exist
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  Speaker 5: on all these other teams, It's not like the ones
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  Speaker 5: that you just gave me for the Buffalo Bills. And
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  Speaker 5: I said, I hear you on that, but I think
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  Speaker 5: it's just a matter of the of the world needs
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  Speaker 5: to be reintroduced to the Buffalo Bills. It's not Diggs
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  Speaker 5: and Davis and Trey White and Poyer and Hyde. It's
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  Speaker 5: let me tell you about Klosk and Terrell Bernard and
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  Speaker 5: Christian Benford, uh, etc.
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  Speaker 2: James Cook, whoever. You know. These are the players.
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  Speaker 5: The time for you the world to know that Spencer
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  Speaker 5: Brown is a high quality right tackle in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: Right that people need to know that Terrell Bernard is
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  Speaker 5: an impact playmaker, not wondering when Matt Mlonald returns, if
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  Speaker 5: it's gonna be Dorian Williams or Torell Bernard that has
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  Speaker 5: to go to the bench, right. It's the the world
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  Speaker 5: just doesn't know this iteration of the Bills. I think
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  Speaker 5: they're finding out little by little here.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really good or a really good statement in point.
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  Speaker 1: And that was one of my big concerns going into
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  Speaker 1: this year. Like you had your two A tier players
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  Speaker 1: were Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs, and you know, Dion
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  Speaker 1: Dawkins will kind of like flirt with that for me
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  Speaker 1: at least like at times what I figured, like at
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  Speaker 1: his best is kind of like a B plus kind
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  Speaker 1: of guy. But you're you guys who are like the best,
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  Speaker 1: like top top, top tier of their position, where Diggs
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  Speaker 1: and Allen and then Digs goes and then it's Allen
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  Speaker 1: and then they're like, Okay, who what do you have
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  Speaker 1: on the rest of this team?
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  Speaker 3: Is it a bunch of C.
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  Speaker 1: Plus guys or B minus guys or B guys and
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  Speaker 1: just yeah, the growth in development and uh, you know
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  Speaker 1: who who said a Charles said it here in the
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  Speaker 1: comments saying what's cool is most of the Bill's future
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  Speaker 1: core is young and ascending. The ascension of several of
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  Speaker 1: these players, Christian, Benford and Bernard really in particular, just
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  Speaker 1: playing two.
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  Speaker 3: Levels that.
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  Speaker 1: If they were more household names, they would be covered
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  Speaker 1: every day on NFL Live or whatever football show exists
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  Speaker 1: on NFL Network, if they still have one.
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  Speaker 3: I know, they torpedo a.
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  Speaker 1: Whole bunch of them, Like just they are playing at
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  Speaker 1: levels and doing things that are slowly starting to get recognition.
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  Speaker 1: But it reminds me a little bit, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned Milano. It kind of reminds me of the milanal
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  Speaker 1: trajectory where for like a couple of years Milana was
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  Speaker 1: ballming out and playing great and no one really talked
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  Speaker 1: about him or knew about it, and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, he has that All Pro year, and every
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  Speaker 1: single game everybody's like, you know, whether it's Collinsworth or
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  Speaker 1: whoever on whatever broadcast is talking about how great Matt
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  Speaker 1: Milano is, and they're showing metrics and stats, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, next year is that year for like Bernard
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  Speaker 1: or Group or Benford and that next crop of guys,
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  Speaker 1: Because to your point, they do have this really fun
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  Speaker 1: group of kind of b plus guys who are starting
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  Speaker 1: to become more and are stepping into that leadership role,
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  Speaker 1: in that core player role. But from a national perspective
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  Speaker 1: or a large scale perspective, no one's doing that. Like
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  Speaker 1: if you say to somebody right now, well, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think the Bills can really do good defensively because of
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  Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard and Christian Benford, you'll probably yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Who yeah exactly. I think the people will be like, what,
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  Speaker 3: like who are they?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: What is that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like I thought Taron Johnson was their corner, Like no,
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  Speaker 1: like he's the nickel like Benford plays outside.
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  Speaker 3: They'd be like, okay, like I guess yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just it's funny to see you like how this team
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  Speaker 1: and you need that, right like it it's funny to
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  Speaker 1: see what this team has become. But you need that.
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  Speaker 1: In a revamp year and a going forward years, you
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  Speaker 1: start to not retool, but you do kind of reset
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  Speaker 1: some things. You need that new group to establish themselves
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  Speaker 1: and take hold and bowie and buttress things on and
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  Speaker 1: off the field, and the Bills are really started to
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  Speaker 1: get that this year. I hate saying all these positive
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  Speaker 1: things because I'm so superstitious and it just makes me
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  Speaker 1: feel like everything's going to fall apart.
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  Speaker 3: But it's been really nice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, it's I think you summed it up really well.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, even a guy like kh Little Shakir, it's
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  Speaker 5: like people are like, oh, this guy's really fun. Well, welcome,
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  Speaker 5: welcome to the party. You know what I mean, You'll
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  Speaker 5: they'll eventually get it. I remember I took a lot
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  Speaker 5: of questions going into the year when the NFL one
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  Speaker 5: hundred list came out, and it's like, Joe, they only
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  Speaker 5: have Alan Dawkins and Milano and the Dolphins have nine
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  Speaker 5: players and the Chiefs have eight, and the it's like,
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  Speaker 5: are we really a I was like, I don't want
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  Speaker 5: to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: These guys they're just they don't people don't.
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  Speaker 5: Know them yet exactly, they don't know him yet if
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  Speaker 5: they But but I think the world's finding out. And obviously,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you get a game like the last one
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  Speaker 5: against Kansas City, you see the record breaking numbers, you know,
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  Speaker 5: thirty three million people watch it, It's like, well, I
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  Speaker 5: guess you've probably learned about Shaqiir, you probably learned about Bernard,
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  Speaker 5: and you should have learned about Benford.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: If you were paying attention.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: You should see what rig Russo can do, and you'll
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: get reacquainted with this new nucleus. And man, it's just
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: a it's a really healthy spot to be and hopefully
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Bean can nail the extensions and uh, when they're extended,
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: they stay healthy.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Right, That's that's gonna be the big thing.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Fingers crossed. It's funny too.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I was wanted to bring up a couple of these comments,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: one from Roy saying it'll be interesting to see how
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: many of these young players the Bills can actually pay,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: and then Sarah said, we got to get our guys paid.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Now that starts that next like fun a lot of
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: off season conversation, at the very least of like who do.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: You pay and how much?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Because now you're kind of running into that area of okay,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you know, we can only pay three of the four
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: or four of the five. Which four is it or
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: which three is it? And how do you kind of
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: flesh all that out? I think that's a really fun
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: conversation or and potentially stressful.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I also wanted to pull up one more.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Comment this related. This is related to the last time
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: you were here. Kevin here said I'm here for the
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: discussion on athletic aesthetics, and I just thought this was awest.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man, we'll see, We'll see what organically comes up here.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, the bills are there's nothing bills related.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: They're wearing the same uniforms they always wear, right, the
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: field arts exactly the same.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: So well, one thing that's made that made me feel
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: great after the last time we did our episode and
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: there was like the amount of people that were like
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: tagging us in tweets for the next couple of weeks
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to be like, man, you guys watching this college game
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: with these two teams playing here, like their jerseys are greater,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: their end zones look crappier.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Did you see this logo? And I was like, this
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: is awesome.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: That was one of the most rewarding like things I've
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: ever experienced doing this.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: I'll get let's fire off a couple takes. I know
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: this is your show, but I hate the Packers white helmets.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: I think they look bad. Okay, I'm not digging that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: And boy the Broncos, boy did they with suck.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: They look like bad. What bothers me with the Broncos
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: is twofold one. These current jerseys look like a bad
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: version of the Bears jerseys.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Two, the Orange Crust jerseys are immaculate.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Just do those? What are we doing? Just do those?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: The orange jersey, the light blue helmet with the you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the kicking Bronco do that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: And then the all whites for the way, just do that?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: What are we doing?
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I think my favorite uniform I've seen this year is
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Jacksonville's throwbacks.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Oh I tell you Jacksonville, Jacksonville's.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: But their Matt White helmet is terrible. That we got
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: to put that right in the trash.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't They're another one too, Like I never like
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the change, and I don't know if it's the nostalgia
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: in me with like Mark Brunell and Tony Bisselli and
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith and James Stewart and Fred Taylor, but Donavond Darius,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: but yeah, give me those those old school Jags unis.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: And I think this might be like kind of a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: hot take, but I'm glad that you also really like those.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I think those old school Jags jerseys are up there
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: in like that conversation with like the throwback Seattle, the
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: creamson Bucks for me, and even the Orange Crush Broncos.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I really like those Jags jerseys, and I feel like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: if they do that, that'll kind of write the ship
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: for their whole organization.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Right well, I think the distance makes you appreciate that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Like you think about the teams that you just mentioned,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: think about the bad uniforms that they've added along the way,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: which I think makes you yearn for those uniforms that
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: at the time you probably didn't appreciate enough. But as
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: they continue to batch the the redesigns, you're like, boy,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: we had, we had something.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: We're just getting further from it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Let it go.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: And I think Jacksonville, I mean, and that's the thing
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: about bad teams, right, they always just change your uniforms
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: all the time. So you're also reminded of that's pek Jacksonville.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Like you mentioned all those names, I mean, how dare
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: you not mention Keenan macardell.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's very Yeah, I could.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Have kept going.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I didn't want a name like too many.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was I mean, you got to Donovan
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Darius and we didn't get Keenan McCardell in there.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, I don't know, bro,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know if.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do want one quick aesthetic piece.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Puka mentions. He says the Ravens Matt helmet was nice.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Matt helmets? I personally I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: hate them. They make me feel like I'm looking at
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a chalkboard and I just I can feel the roughness
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and I don't like it. I don't like Matt anything, cars,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: any type of Matt finish, but especially on helmets.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I don't like it. What's your feeling on it?
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: I think sometimes they work. I think they work pretty well.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: From Minnesota. I like them there. I didn't like them
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: for Jacksonville, for Baltimore. When I watched them with that,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I thought that was a uniform that looked a lot
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: better close up than it did, Like, oh, when you're
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: just watching the game.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's a good call. Yeah they would
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: zoom in. Yeah, I was, Wow, that looks really good.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: You zoom out. It's like, man, I don't know, I
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: don't really know what I'm looking.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: At, and it's almost made me think, is it because
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: it's all purple, Like if they had a white jersey
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: with that helmet, when I'd be able to appreciate the
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: helmet a little bit more.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But but you could be right. It just could be the.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Dullness of the helmet that makes it look where like
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: more mono monochromatic.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you God. I was never gonna come up with
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that word.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I wasn't sure that it was the right word, but
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'll throw it out there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Well, it sounds good to me. Maybe it's not correct,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: but it sounded good. Uh yeah. It's like that dulness
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: with the with the one color all the way through.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: I think it really kind of takes away. I think
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: you need to shine there. So if you give me
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: the Matt helmet, I think I need the white, the
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: contrasting color jersey kind of unless it's white, the white
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Matt is God, we can't.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: That's there's no timet. We have no time for that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: That's fair. I can't do madd in general. The Ravens whant.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I actually kind of liked the little bit blake, like
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you said, like, I liked it more close up also,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you can see the pops of the.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yellow and how everything fit.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And then you'd go to the regular broadcast hanging and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't I don't like this man.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: We I already made a note of it the last
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: time you were on off season when it's like it's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: one of the dol drums of the off season. We're
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: gonna do like a football aesthetics episode, everything from Jerseys,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: college NFL to field aesthetics. We're gonna run the whole gamut.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited for it. I'm here for it, here
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: All right, we want to dive into it anything else.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you never know what's gonna happen. Whenever I get
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: on the horn with you. Man, it's like the side
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: tangents we get. I mean, even in the ten minutes
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: we had before the show, it's like probably thinking in
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: for playing the show. The next thing, you know, we're
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: talking about the man stress, you know what I mean,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: and departmentalizing our lives.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: So I don't know what it is about you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: We've done it on your show too.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking the one time I was on and we
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: went off on like the six minute tangent on the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets and Glenn Rice and like that whole deal. Yeah,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it's a good time. It's a good time for those
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: playing at home. Joe and I are gonna be handing
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: out some awards and some and and and placing some
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: superlatives regarding the first eleven weeks of the Buffalo and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: potentially framing some things for the future and the rest
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: of this season. So as I bring up all the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: headers and you know, we show you what the topic
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: is and we give our answers. For those of you
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: watching live, playing at home, or even if you are
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: watching or listening not live, feel free to put your
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you know, if if you're not watching live, put your thoughts, questions, comments,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: answers up into the YouTube comments.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Tweet at us whatever you want.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And for those of you watching live, throw your answers
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: up into the live chat here. If you hate our answers,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: let us know. If you love our answers, let us know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I will bring up as many comments, thoughts, and answers
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: from you folks as physically and humanly possible. Joe, is
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: there any one of these topics that you feel very
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: strongly about in starting with first? Or should we just
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: go in the order of which.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I gave them to you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Let's just go in order. Let's just go in order.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll go on order.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So the first one is the player that has exceeded
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: your expectations the most. And again for the I was watching,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: listening all that stuff. I don't know Joe's answers, he
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't know mine. We're keeping this very organic and kind
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: of blind to everything, so that way we can foster
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: better conversation.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Joe, the floor is yours. Who is the Buffalo Bills.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Player that has exceeded your expectations the most these first
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: eleven weeks.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: I'm going with the player that entering the year I
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: had zero expectations for, mostly because I had no idea
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: what to expect as von Miller.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean last year was just terrible.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't think he could play anymore, you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: And so it's like, on one hand, he's further removed
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: from the ACL tear. On the other hand, he's thirty
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: five years old.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I just I didn't know what to expect, and so
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: my decision was I wasn't gonna have any expectations, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: then anything that von Miller provided that was good, you
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: take it and lo and behold.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Now I'm excited when he's on the field.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I think you're seeing a lot of the traits that
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: have made von Miller, you know, in a hall of
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Fame caliber pass rusher with a lot of burst and
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: bend and and his his strike timing has been really good.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: You know, He's not a super long armed, heavy hands guy,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: but I've seen him run some dudes over, which is
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: like really savvy timing with his with his one arm
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: stab and being. I mean he rocked over Jowan Taylor
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: a couple of times against the Chiefs. So yeah, I
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: think one of my biggest concerns was do the Bills
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: have enough juice when it comes to pass rush? And
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Von Miller's value has inspired that the Bills might be
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: okay in that capacity. Of course, he had the suspension
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: of miss time, but four sacks and seven games man
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: and even some good run defense. I think the last
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks the run defense has been there in
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: ways that kind of surprised me as well. So Von
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Miller has definitely exceeded my expectations, which were nothing that's
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: a fair.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: One and and a good one.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I I and I wasn't neutral on him, but I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: thought I thought he could be like an edge high
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: end EDGE three or like a middling edge two this
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: year from an overall you know, production standpoint, and even.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Within that I was. I was pleasantly surprised to see
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: how just how he's been moving each week.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Like you said, like the bend, the athleticism, and you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you spoke so much on the pass rush piece.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I don't have too much to add with that for me,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: and you alluded to it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: The run defense has been something that I've been really
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: excited with for him, and he's that's always been an
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: aspect of his game that he's been good at, but
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it just gets so far overshadowed by what he is
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. From his time in Denver and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: even with his time with the Rams, but he's been
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a good run defender and he's had multiple really good
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: run defense reps for the Bills this year, even really
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: starting right off the bat against Arizona that first half,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Arizona's running pin and pull and just mashing everybody on
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the edge left and right for the Bills, and then
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Vaughan has a couple reps in the second quarter in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the third where he just gums up the whole thing
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and he's beaten up tight ends, he's shooting underneath tackles,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and we've seen that kind of consistently happen week over week.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I've been very impressed with how he's just come back,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: even with someone who like myself, who I didn't think
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: he was washed.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't think he was done.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to be the guy
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he was before the injury, who again was still Special
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Wave when he was here in Buffalo. But I think
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a good answer, and I think you'd
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: get that from a good amount of people because there
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: was such a lot and I don't know if it
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: was a loud majority or a very loud minority who
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: thought that Vaughn was done and he was cooked and
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: it was over. But you saw some of those little
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: flashes towards the end of the year last year, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: he carried it in here real quick. I want to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: grab this super chat from Carl. We had so deep
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: in a conversation.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I missed it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I apologize, Carl, and thank you for letting me know
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: in the chat that I did miss it. I appreciate
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you keep me honest, Thank you for being here, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: thank you for the super chat, Carl. And Carl says
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the bills in the bills in twenty twenty one should
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: have gone further, but for thirteen seconds. They were contenders
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, but we're
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: decimated by injury in twenty twenty four. They are healthy,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and healthy is in all caps one. No jinks, so
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: whatever everybody needs to do to make sure we don't
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: drink that, make sure we don't jink that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But too.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they they've had I think they've had.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Injuries, which you know we've talked about, but as we
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: go down this stretch, they do feel like they will
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: be in a healthy spot. We'll see what Matt Malonald
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: looks like when he returns. We'll see what Smooth looks
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: like when he returns. Carter, the rest of this group.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Shakir was banged up at one point. He's starting to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: get a little healthier. We'll see what happens with Kincaid,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with Brown. They should be relatively
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: healthy for that home run stretch as we get into
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: December and we start to push into January a little bit.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And it's funny, you know, usually get said come playoff time,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: but usually the best teams in the playoffs are the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: healthiest teams in the playoffs. And if the Bills can
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: stem that tide.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Just I hate having the conversation, but I really do
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: feel like last year that divisional game against the Chiefs
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: was so close anyway, But no Benford, no Bernard Russell,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Douglas is playing on one line. De Quon came back
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: but wasn't healthy. That whole defense was decimated. So if
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you're healthy enough, combined with the talent what they've got
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: going on schematically, I think that's a very fair thought, Carl,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate you sharing that with the Super Chat.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Any thoughts uh On Carl's commentop, I don't want.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: To needed to stay that way.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Ken Coleman's another one, Uh, I gotta be mindful of
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: what what whatever heck is going on there. I don't
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: really know. So hopefully he's back and ready to go.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I think the good news is they haven't put him
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: on injured reserve.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But good car.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you just never, dude, You just never know, man.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: You never know when your plant and uh leghm, it
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: snaps or your leg gets rolled. It's just yeah, you
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: think you're healthy until you're not. And they they can
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: come in bunches. And I mean think about the Dolphins
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: this year, last year at this time, it was like, Okay,
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: there's Chubb, there goes Phillips, there goes Connor Williams, there
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: goes Toron Armstead. It's like, Okay, you never know when
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: it's your turn, so knock on wood and hope it
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: stays that way.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons too, And I know everybody
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: kind of wants things that are done right for their teams,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: but it's part of the reason why I will never
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: ever fault any professional athlete, but especially in football. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: will never fault any player for chasing the bag in
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: free agency at any way, shape or form. You literally know,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: it could be a game, it could be practiced, it
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: could be working out your next movement could literally be
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: your friggin last. So I never have any qualms with
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: anybody chasing after big money in free agency, trying to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: get that payday in that security, because you can make
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a catch and you get hit and you just prime
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: plant the wrong way and your acl gos or your
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Achilles goes, or god knows what.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Else, and all of a sudden you are done. So yeah,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: very fair.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I had several and there were a lot of really
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: good comments for this one for player that has exceeded
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: your expectations the most. I went with Khalil Shakir just
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: because of the year that he has started to put
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: together so and really what he's meant in totality to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen into the off He's got five hundred ninety
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: nine receiving yards, four hundred and seventy three of those
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: are after the catch. Through these eleven weeks, amongst forty
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: seven wide receivers with at least fifty targets, He's ninth
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: in EPA per target, sixth in total EPA, third and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: success rate, thirteenth in yards per target, seventh in yards
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: per route run. He has the lowest average depth of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: target at three point five yards, also the lowest average
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: depth of catch at two point six yards. He's third
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: across the entire league in total yards after catch. He's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: second amongst wide receivers only to Jamar Chase, who's had
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: some ridiculous back to back weeks. When it comes to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: yak what he's been to this offense and too Josh
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Allen into a position group that's been banged up a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: little bit, that's another conversation then I'm gonna speak at
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: later in this episode. But just what he's become. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: thought highly of him coming out of Boise State. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: was surprised that he lasted until the fifth round, but
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: just seeing the level at which he played at and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the way that he finds success and and I think
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of this conversation, right, is all based on
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the expectation. Right if you thought Shakiro was gonna be
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: sweet this year and then you see how he's performing,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you're kind of like, oh, I kind of expected that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Or if you thought someone was gonna suck and they're
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: playing good, you know, I think Dorrian Williams could have
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: been one that could have fit in here for me,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: just because I saw his struggles last year, and I
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: think some of them have still shown this year. I
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: do think Dorrian Williams has improved and has made a
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: lot of strides. He's gotten some good time on task.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: You know, a phrasing that you like to use a lot,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and I think you've seen that progression in his game.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: But I do still think there are some holes. I
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: think there's there.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get on a tangent, but far
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: too many people are like, well, even when Milano comes back,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: should he even go on the field.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Shouldn't Dorian stay on there?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, You're out of your mind, Like, no,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: he should not stay on there. But I think Dorrian,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a contender for this this question
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: as well for me, just with what I thought he
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: was and where he's kind.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Of gotten to. But for me it's Shakir.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I already thought he was a good player, but I
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: thought where he fell on the hierarchy of the past
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: catching options for this team compared to where he is
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: now and just what he's able to do kind of
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: on his own in a lot of ways, from the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: average up the target and catching yards after.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: He's really just exceeded so many expectations.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And I already thought highly of him, and he's just
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: surpassed that even further with what he's done on tape,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: but also statistically and from an advanced metrics standpoint.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I think you've invoked a lot of good names.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I think if there's another guy that deserves a shout out,
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: it's probably James Cook.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: He was here for me too. I really thought of
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: him yet.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: The really good vision improvements, I thought, decision making, man,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: he's running that cutback zone extremely well. I think he's
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: got ten rushing touchdowns. I mean, I'd have lost a
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: lot of money if you told me that James Cook
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: was going to have six rushing touchdowns this year. But
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: he's been able to kind of win with speed in
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: the goal line, and even last week he saw some
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: yards after contact. I mean, certainly still some issues, still
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: some drops doesn't help on pass production pass pro. But
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: I think as a as a runner for this multiple
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: run scheme, I really have been satisfied.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: With him his I tweeted it earlier today, and I've
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: talked about the past couple of weeks. His ability to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the physicality and toughness and contact balance with which he's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: running this year. And being able to do that while
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: not and while not sacrificing the juice and the speed
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and the athleticism has really been something to behold. And
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: when you factor that in to the run game diversity
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the Bills have. Conceptually, we know that he can flow
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: on zone, but now he's able to get downhill on duo.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: He's hitting the hole you know, on the tackle poll
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: stuff and other gap schemes that they work. And then yeah,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: he can run through a corner or a safety or
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: fall through a linebacker for a couple extra yards, Like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it's just that that extra level of power to his game.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: But he's been able to add it without sacrificing the juice.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And you know, the two touchdown runs against Kansas City
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I thought were great examples. The first one is his
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: zone run that Kansas City you know has them, is
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: gapped out. He gets he turns the corner purely because
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: of speed. He makes that play happen on his own.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Carl Loftus or I forget who shoots in the B gap.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He has to bounce it a little and then he
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: gets outside of chanal Is Trank is the guy he
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: beats on the angle, Yes, yeah, he beats Tranquil on
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the angle, And whoever shoots in the B gap. He
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: beats the guy in the B gap first and then
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: beats Tranquil around the corner.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: It's all speed.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And then the second run for the touchdown is duo
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and he runs through Brian Cook Bolton through his shoulder
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and I forget who else. He runs through three dudes
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and falls forward for two three guards and gets in
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the end zone. Just seeing that is such a good
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: representation of he's still got the juice and the speed
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to make things work and make something out of nothing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And then he's got the physicality to also go through dudes. Yeah,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: him adding that level to his game I thought was
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: really really really nice. Let's flip this to kind of
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a negative side, the player that has fallen below your
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: expectations the mo So we went on the positive side,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: who has exceeded the expectations the most? Now we hit
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the other end of the spectrum, Joe, for you these
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: first eleven weeks, who is the buffalo bill that has
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: fallen below your expectations the most?
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: I think it was probably last year at this time
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I had the epiphany that there were some parts of
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: this roster that were expired. I think I even came
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: on on this show and I said, hey, I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: there's I think it's time for some transition in some spots.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I think it's dated.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: And they got to get younger and cheaper, and I
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: started to really champion that on the podcast, and then
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: you know, obviously Brandon being agreed, and so they went
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: through this whole process to get younger and cheaper in transition.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: But they broke the rule for one guy, and it's
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: one guy that I wanted them to break that rule
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: for it's Stai Kwon Jones. I was like, you know what,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: if there's one guy that you know, it just makes
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: sense to bring him back as the one tech. I
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: really like what he's shown. I think that he'll be
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: the answer there. And one text they age pretty gracefully.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I think that's the guy that you break the rule for.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: And ten weeks or ten games was eleven games.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: End of the season.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: I'm starting to wonder if that was the right move
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: to make. I just don't I just don't think he's
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: been effective. And I think it really stood out to
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: me against Kansas City, where I think it's well understood
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: that I'm not a big Jordan Phillips guy. I think
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Jordan Phillips was objectively better against Kansas City than Dakwon Jones.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: And and I know that middle three is really good,
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: and so my you know, I temper my expectations, but
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: I thought Jordan Phillips was better against Kansasity and Dakwon Jones,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: and I'm.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Hoping that it comes together for Daiquon.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he's you know, he's never been a guy
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: that didn't give max effort and do everything he could
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: to play his best football, and I know he's got
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: a couple of different injuries that he's been battling this season.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: But as as the exception to the rule this offseason,
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: it's just not quite paying the dividends that I hoped
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: it would when he came back on a two year deal.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So you know, I almost speak on that because this
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: is also tied to mine. I labeled it as just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: kind of like the interior defensive line in general. I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like grouped it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: DAYK one is that is at the head of it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, from like a first two perspective, even I think
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I know Ed Oliver has been banged up. I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Ed fell into that a little as well, just kind
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: of being a ghost out there getting pushed around a bit.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But I think Ed these past several weeks were starting
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to see more of that juice he's starting to cause.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Having He had a.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Couple of really, really really strong reps against Kansas City,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: defeating double teams, getting into the backfield, getting some pressures.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, DAYK one and you hit everything on the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: head like this position that age just kind of gracefully,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: like he's so smart, he fits the defense well. And
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: before he went down last year, was playing at an
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: all pro level. He was an absolute game wrecker against
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the pass and against the run. And then it's not
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: like the injury that he had it was a peck.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: It's not like, well, he's coming back from an achilles
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: or he's coming back from this, you know, hamstring tear
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: or this devastating knee injury.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: It was like, oh, it's a peck. He'll be fine.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Like his wheels are still good, the mentality is still there,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the physicality is still there, and yeah, you're just not
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: seeing that same level of impact. So he's fallen below
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: expectations for me more so than even him. For me,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and I labeled it again, I like a sub bullet
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: within this the second and third wave, I guess because
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: we've seen so many of interior defensive linemen. I like
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the Austin Johnson signing in the off season, but I
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: don't know if they had him cut weight. He looks trimmer,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: and I feel like he's caught in between playing like
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: three tech and one tech. Like I think he's better
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: suited to play it at one tech, but now he
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't have that size anymore because he trimmed down. Dwayne
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Carter coming out from Duke and watching his college tape,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I did have worries about him handling double teams, and
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: he struggled there at the NFL level, he's getting displaced
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: and just blown out the gate. But he's also struggled
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: just from some individual one on one base blocks, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: he's been almost non existent as a pass rusher, which
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: is the one area I thought you kind of hang
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: your hat on with him again coming out of Duke,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: he's tied, you know, as of right now, tied for
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: eighty eighth in terms of pastors productivity amongst one hundred
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and seven team qualifying interior defensive lineman. You got Phillips
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and Jefferson now off the scrap heap, who have been fine,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: but I don't think either are much to write home about.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I I thought this group and you know, it's funny
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: too like and not to make it sound like worse.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I was worried about the interior defensive line going into
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the season, and they still fell below my expectations. Like
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I thought they'd be middling and fine, but I think
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: they've been a bit porous in a multitude of ways
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: against the run and the pass. So DAYK one, I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: think heads it ed was there for a bit, but
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: he looks to have righted the ship a bit. But
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I really think like outside of that, like this position
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: group as a whole has really kind of disappointed me
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and fallen below expectations.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a good way to frame it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: I tried to make it like specific to a player,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: but I think i'd agree with you that collective.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I cheated.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I cheated. I'm sorry, And I wonder how much you know.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I think Duan Smooth.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: I know he's an edge player, but I think they
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: wanted to play him reduced inside a lot. I think
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: he was a big part of the play in there,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: and he really have never had an extended enough opportunity
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: to see him in this group. But yeah, I think
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: I guess the good news is that there's still time
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: and yeah, like that, we know that those are better
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: players than they've been and so that's maybe a realistic
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: path to some in season growth. In season growth to
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: get impact in an area where you feel like it
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: should be better and can be better. And maybe that'll
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: be a storyline for the last six.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fair one last.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Quick one for this one, and I nixed it just
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: because he's been hurt Curtis Samuel I think could have
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: fallen in here, but we knew he got banged up,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: like right out of camp, and so I do think
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: he's fallable expectations. But I hate kind of I don't
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: want to say give him a pas, but I do
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: kind of want to give him a pass because he's
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: been banged up and playing through it, and now that
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he's gotten healthier these past couple of weeks, we've seen
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: a turn. I think the Kansas City game was a
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: great example of what he kind of can be. But
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you and I were both a training camp.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: We saw how much of a focal point he was
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and how he was being used. I think we would
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: have seen more.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Of that head he not been here. But that's a
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: very fun one, all right.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: The next one that we got also tied into a
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: little bit of a negative aspect, but a little more
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: forward thinking. Here your biggest area of concern going forward, Joe,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: what do you got?
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: I still think it's a collective impact of the defensive line,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: And I know that Kansas City was a really good
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: performance for the defensive line collectively. I thought they cage
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: rushed extremely well and they had a good plan. But
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: am I concerned that there's still some issues with you know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: light boxes on defense and the D line being able
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: to anchor and fit like they're supposed to. Am I
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: still concerned that, you know, in big moments late in games,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: can they get huge pass rush. At times, I think
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: it's really good, in other times I'm just it feels
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: like it's missing, even like you go back to the
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Colts game against Flaco, like when it hit, it hit right,
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: but like where's this then distant pressure again, I know
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: that we're I don't want to become a victim of
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: the moment because of the Kansas City game, because I
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: think it was excellent against Kansas City. But I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: the broader sample size of the year has kind of
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: told me that the rush run defense can be leaky
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: and the pass rush can be quiet at times. And
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: so that's kind of the area where I still I
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: still find myself with a little bit of pause and
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: concern about it's showing up when this team needs it
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: the most.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's very fair and I can so I'm
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: in a very similar boat.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: I kept it to the interior.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Defensive line in specifics the rotation, which I'll talk about,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: but I do think that's a fair overall. Like looking
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: at the D line, I love the year that Groot
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: has put together, him really developing more of an inside
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: move to go. You know, he's never going to be
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: this bendy, twitched up change of direction dude who's going
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to dip him ben and turn the corner. But his
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: ability to kind of go speed to power, use his length.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: But then that inside move where he can take a
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: couple steps upfield and then as quickly pry you open
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: on your inside shoulder and get to the quarterback has
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: been really nice to see. But a lot of his
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: production this year has really come in, like several spurts
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: and moments like the Tennessee game was a big one,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: and like you mentioned, from a down in, down out
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: production standpoint between group Epanessa von Smoot, I guess when
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: he comes back, I don't know if that production is
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: always consistently there. So I'm still and that effectiveness, I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: should say, is always there, So I do worry about
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that a little bit. I just worry about it less
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: than again the interior defensive line rotation and my my
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: biggest concern with it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: The pass rush piece is there, but it's really.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: The combination of you know, lacking juice against the pass,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: but also stoutness versus the run. The Bills have to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: stop the run with numbers far too often, or work
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in run stunts, run blitzes, which I like. I love
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: run stunts. I love you know, slant and dudes, scrape
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: exchanges and all of that, but it can get risky,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: like doing that comes with its own set of risk.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, for as much maligned
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: as Dayquon has been and Ed has been, you know,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: this year, if either one of them go down, if
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: anything happens to one of them again, they haven't been
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: world beaters themselves this year. And even with Ed coming
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: on a bit lately, that interior defensive line is scary.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Like even with Dayquon underperforming and Ed to a degree,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: after that, it just gets really worrisome. And I know
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the metrics kind of balance out a little bit, like
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: with who they are defensively, They've given up a ton,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you know of ten plus yard runs, but they're second
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: in the league and stuff percentage and their top ten
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: in EPA per rush and they I don't remember what
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: they are in terms of DVOA against the run, but
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: last week they were like six against the run. Like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: this is still a grouping that you know statistically and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: when you add in context and situation and all that
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff is good. The Bills right now are
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: seventh in terms of brush dv away, So all these
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: metrics speak to them being good. And I know the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: adjustment nature of the Bills defense. Come out player kind
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of bland defense with some tweaks to start and then
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: based on what you do, will adjust from there. Great
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: great changes from an EPA standpoint first half to second half.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: They're like one of the worst defenses from an EPA
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: per rush and EPA per play standpoint in the first
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: half top three and top five and almost all of
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: those same metrics in the second half. They really adjust
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: well in course correct as the game goes on.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: But I do worry about.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: That defensive line, especially with you know, von Miller said
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: it after the Chiefs game this week, they're the tip
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: of the spear. They like are the tone setters. They
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: do so much, not just in the past but also
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: with the run. Like Terrell Bernard is great. If you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: can get dudes to Terrell Bernard, Trey Smith buried Terrell
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Bernard a couple times in this game because he was
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: able to get to that second level.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: You need that in tiers.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: But that's part of what I'm saying, Like Gernard is
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: so smart, and he's so quick, and he's so great,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: but he is very undersized for the position. You want
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to keep him clean so he can do all the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: awesome stuff that he does. Milano to a degree as well,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: your defensive line is so important, the starters and the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: rotation in terms of generating pass for us, because we
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: know McDermott wants to rush for and just play coverage
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: behind it, so you need them to be able to
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: rush the passer. You also need them to be able
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to hold ground against the run to anchor to not
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: get displaced, but also get some penetration. And the interior
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: has really scared me for a multitude of reasons, not
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: protecting the second level up but also just getting beat
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and worked individually in a vacuum. That's a spot that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: really concerns me because I just think, if again we
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: talked about game script, for as much as the Bills
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: have adjusted well on defense, all.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It takes is kind of just one of those games.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And again, maybe this is it's not fair to judge
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: them on a sample size something like that. But all
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: it takes is one of those games in the wildcard
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: of the divisional round, and all of a sudden you're
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: down twenty one nothing because you're getting gouged left and right,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and then the offense doesn't score, and now all of
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a sudden you're on the back foot. Your offensive game
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: plan has to change, which doesn't fit the nature of
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the offense because of and then all because of what
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: happened to defense, you're not playing complimentary football, so on
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and so forth. I am very concerned about the interior
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: defense line because even when they come back healthy, I
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: don't love Carter and Johnson behind Daykon and Ed. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: then if it's not Carter and Johnson, is it Jefferson
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: and Phillips like or whatever combination Like no disrespect, I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: just don't.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I don't feel.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Good about any of that. And I wouldn't feel good
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: even if Dayquon and Ed were playing like they both
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: did last year at their highest, like even if they're
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: both crushing it, I'd be like, sweet, are they gonna
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: play ninety percent of snaps? Because the back the second
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: wave isn't getting it done. But that's now a worry
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: even more because Daykuon isn't crushing it. Ed again has
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: been looking a little better, but hasn't been crushing it
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: all year. That's a spot that really worries me, especially
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: against you know, if they play up against Baltimore or
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: even against Pittsburgh, or as Houston starts to get a
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: little healthier and their run game starts to click a
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: little bit and how everything ties in Kansas City was
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a good example too, and again Von talked about it
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: after the game. They got gouged on first and second
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: down in the run consistently. It was just like six
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: yards to Kareem Hunt, seven yards to Kareem Hunt four
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and then eight and you know, just here and there.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: And I know the Bills kind of they're willing to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: do that and play the numbers over the top and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: light boxes and nickel and all that stuff. We've had
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: this conversation a million times as a community, But yeah,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that's the spot that really scares me. And I like
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: your point as well, just the D line in general,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: like being able to consistently get pressure tying then into
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the run.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it scares me.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: A little bit, and it was an issue that I
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: had concerns with coming into the season two.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Detroit.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Detroit's gonna be interesting, and even even the Rams to
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: an extent, Like if the Rams get their their middle
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: three I think they were, They're still getting healthy and
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: figuring themselves out, but we're gonna find out some things
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: those weeks. And then also like just I know, getting
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: way down the line, I think you mentioned Baltimore within
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: the conference, Uh, Steelers within the conference, Kansas City within
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: the conference, especially when.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: They get a check go back.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but your your let's face, the Eagles or the
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Lions are gonna win the NFC, You're gonna have to
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: beat them in the super you know what I mean. So,
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: like this is definitely looming large on my mind. The
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: X factors that you score, right, the X factors that
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: you score. The one thing that I can't reconcile again
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: about the Baltimore game is how were the Bills the
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: one team that couldn't throw the ball in Baltimore one
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five passing yuards? Under those circumstances, Baltimore
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: gives up passing yards to everybody, everybody, and the Bill's
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: got a season low one to fifty five against them. Yeah,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: that's the piece of the equation that didn't didn't add.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Up, even with having to chuck it like a million
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: times because the run game went away because.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Of the script. Yeah, you're spotted, and that's such a
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: good point.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really looking to that Detroit game again to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: really test their metal and we'll see hopefully, you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: nothing happens to Detroit's guys between now and then. But
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I mean Decker and Glasgow and rag Now and Kevin
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Zeitler's played well for them this year, and then Pinay
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Seul is just an absolute monster.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: And that's the team right that can Like, if we're
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Game script, they will snatch your soul in the in
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the first ten minutes of the game, they will snatch
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: your soul and all of a sudden you're looking around
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: and being like, oh, how is it twenty one? And
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: nothing right now? Like what the hell is happening? And
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the yep yep, And with their running backs that they have,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: like if you can't handle that line, it's not like
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: all you know, Okay, their line's really good, but their
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: backs are lacklustered. You know, Sonic and knuckles, which is
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: such an amazing nickname for a running back to you. Oh,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I friggin love it. They crush it. The line is great,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the play action game that stems off the run and
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: then everything that opens up for aman Rah and Jamo
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: and Laporta and even guys like Khalif Raymond, like, man, Yeah,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: that that's such a great I think test to see
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: what they do and the rams is another one too.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I'm really also interested to see the rams from a
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: motion use our bigger bodied eleven personnel with Puka and
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Cup to kind of mash you seeing how the Bills
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: handle their run game. That's also I think tying into
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: it as well. For me, it's not just the overall
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: like interior defensive line or the D line in general.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I really want to know like the rush piece, because
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: you can't you can't be a team that like, well,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna go single high all the time.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna gap out where just you have to
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: be able to stop it from an individual execution standpoint
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: at some in some way, shape or form. If not,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get dusted when it matters. Most like, it's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: it's fine enough to adjust as we go through the
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: regular season. But like you said, you're gonna you know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: test metal on metal in the playoffs or in the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: super Bowl.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: That's where those things really come to a head.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I'm thinking, like, going up
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: against the best, what areas are going to be the
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: biggest concern? I hate that when we're when we're in lockstep,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I like it, but I also hate it for like
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: a warrior or concern, because that makes me think it
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: really is a big worry. It's not just like, oh,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I'm being paranoid and it's like no, Gray, it is fantastic,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: all right. A fun one. Now on the other side again,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: biggest area of strength going forward? Not name Josh Allen.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I had to put that because I'm sure it would
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: be like, well, it's Josh Allen, He's the best, He's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: he's the greatest, so on and so forth. So Joe,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: who who or what is your biggest area of strength
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: going forward?
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Not named Josh handlin h.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I think there's some fun, fun angles you could take
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: on this one. But the thing that really stood out
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: to me was that this is a defense that takes
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: away the football. It lead the league with twenty one takeaways.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: They get a takeaway on eighteen percent of drives against them.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy, man.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: And it's funny because there's so many talking points out
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: there about you know, takeaways are random. But Sean McDermott,
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: well you saw the stat, right, He's been top ten
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: and takeaways for what like eight years in a row.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: It's crazy and it certainly feels like it's peaking this year.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: And I mean, what is the quote out there? You
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: get what you emphasize. Obviously they're emphasizing taking away the
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: ball they hunt. I mean, you got guys going and
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: raking at the ball. You get you know, passes that
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: are arrant throws because of the rush and how it's
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: married up. Like they cont they've had a takeaway and
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: what was like thirteen games in a row, every single
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: game this year, they've had mostly like multi pull takeaways
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: in every game.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: So I think that is huge.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: I think I'm very much a believer that outside of
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: points four and points against against, giveaways and takeaways are
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: the most correlative metrics to winning football games, and the
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: Bills have been on the good side of both of
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: that right where they they've only given the ball away
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: a handful of times this year, and in fact, I
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: have that information. The Bills have given away the ball
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: seven times, that's second lowest in the league, and they
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: have the most takeaways. That I mean, you're going to
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: be that type of plus minus on on on turnovers.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: You're going to be in good shape.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: And that's that's really that's for me, I thought the
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: prevailing thought when I considered where this team is the strongest.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: That's a really great point. And especially like you mentioned,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you know, pairing that in conjunction with the offense not
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: turning the ball over like you are, just you're playing
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: sound football on both sides and kind of that's another
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: aspect of the complimentary piece that works so well. And yeah,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the I think the turnover aspect also significantly contributes to
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Script aspect as well.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: When the Bills turn it over or I should say
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: take it away from other teams, they continue to just
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: play on that front foot and continue to mash you
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: and grind you with the run game, and continue to
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: lean on you and get out in front and so
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: on and so forth, and then you feel like you're
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: really behind the eight ball if you're the opponent. And
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: then again, the opposite isn't happening. The Bills aren't turning
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: it over again, no jinks, They're not putting the defense
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: in bad spots. Continue and just possess the.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Ball, wear teams down, grind grind.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Like that.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: It's just such a tried and true formula for good
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: teams year in and year out, even if you don't
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: have talent. It's a good formula that works. I really
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: like that. I really like that mine. It ties into
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit of yours because it's a group that
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: has taken the ball away a lot and is responsible
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: for a lout a lot of the turnovers I said.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: The cornerback room in particular super good. Yeah, Russeull Douglas,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Christian Benford, Tarren Johnson obviously a very strong top three,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: but even the depth JaMarcus Ingram giving you some inside
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: outside flexibility. Cam Lewis coming in and performing admirably in
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Taron Johnson instead Elam very small sample size, but you know,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: some fun stuff in camp, some nice pieces you know
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: to hopefully be excited about. Based on his one game
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: against Miami, although we did get burned on that out
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: and up by Tyreek Hill, but he also kind of
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: recovered and almost made a play.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Up against Tyreek hill Man.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Come on, that's fair, that's fair. And Tua did under
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: twoa did underthrow.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of context to it,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: but you know, speaking specifically on that starting three, Benford
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: and Douglas and Taron Johnson, you just have this group
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: capable of playing both the pass and the run with
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: very little vulnerability. Playing the run is so important now,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: not just in the Bills defense. We know it matters
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of McDermott, but you have to in today's
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: day and age, with how much the run game has
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: come back, and Benford and Douglas regularly executing crack replaces
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: and coming up as forced players and turning the run
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: back inside or coming up and making a tackle, and
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: just seeing that with regularity. Even this past game low
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: red zone play against the Chiefs, the Chiefs run counter
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: and Tony polls and it's within the tight end box
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: and Rasoll just submarines him and takes him out and
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: shuts off the entire outside tune. He gets up and
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: he wants the flag and Douglas is like, no, it's
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: within the box. Like the ability to just do that
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: to tuney and know where you are and know that
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: it's legal and then be able to execute that. Physically,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: You've got this group. Between the three of them, you've
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: got toughness and physicality mixed with being assignment sound and
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: then various levels of athleticism. Tarren Johnson is already an
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: all pro Rasseull Douglas on his worst day is still
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: a solid CB two.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: And then Christian Benford.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I had these notes going into this past week against
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Kansas City among seventy seven corners with at least twenty targets.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Going into this past week, Benford was first an EPA
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: per target, third in total EPA eleventh and success rate,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: fifth in quarterback rating against, first in yards per game allowed,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and second in yards per attempt allowed. And I know
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: some of those, you know, target metrics don't necessarily indicate
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: good sound coverage just because you're not you know, if
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: you're not getting the ball thrown your way, you're not
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: showing up on these. But when you watch the tape,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: you just see someone who is executing at a high level.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Just the pedal, the feet, the hips, the planning, the
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: route recognition, the understanding of how to play various stems
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: the plays at the catch point along with what he
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: does against the run. Benford has really come into his
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: own and I think this corner grouping just gives you
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: a skill set that allows you to match teams in
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: a variety of ways, both against the run and the
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: pass zone. I think they play man better than they
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: get credit for. We saw it show up on a
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: bunch of reps against Kansas City. They played more man
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: this week than they normally do. So that corner grouping,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I think is the biggest area of strength going forward
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: that is not named Josh Amen.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the splits when the Bills run man are
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: really good. It's very effective. And even the blitz packages.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: The Bills don't play a ton of man. They don't
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: blitz a ton, but they're metrics when they do. Boy,
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: they're nice and you wonder if it's something they should
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: do more or they're just threading the needle perfectly and
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: that's why it's effective.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: But I like that being in the bag.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: And I felt like a few years ago they tried
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: to do this, Leslie Fraser did and it's like, man,
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know that Levi Wallace is going to be
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: your best option here.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: To mirror and match.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: But it's I feel like they're kind of getting that
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: version of their coverage packages that they wanted here recently.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: And yeah, they might of cover one that they ran
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: against Kansas City with with mixing and some man and
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: how they kind of had like the mirroring spy.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It was a really good formula.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that had ability was just so good against Kansas City.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: You know, man coverage around thirty four percent in that
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: game against them. When they were blitzing, they were, you know,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: throwing Cover one blitzes and Benford is locking down, Douglas
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: is locking down, tearing locking down. Also, like you mentioned too,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: like that that odd mirror package creeping up again, you
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: know with the three man and the aggressive spy. We
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: saw it a little bit with a technically not odd mirror,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: but they did it with a fore man and the
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: aggressive spy with Terrell Bernard that's what he that's what
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: he got his sack on early in the game. Again,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: how that coverage has just tied in and then the
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: little tweaks here and there, like against Miami, going with
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: more press and you're watching Rasul Douglas like jam Tyreek
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: at the line and then trail them well and get
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: a PBu on a third down.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Like just how flexible.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: They can be in a variety of techniques and a
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: variety of coverages and looks, and they do. I think
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: their strength also helps mitigate some of the concerns up
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: front from a pass rush perspective, because we've seen some
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: coverage sacks that have resulted because the corners and the
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: back seven in general have just been so locked down
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: and so good from assignment. From assignment and a responsibility perspective,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it's been really nice to see another fun one here.
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  Speaker 1: The team MVP thus far, again not named Josh Allen.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: We are excluding him from the ballots. He is not
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: allowed to be counted on this one. Joe, who do
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: you got for your team MVP? Not named Josh Allen.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: I think the fun part about trying to answer this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: is that there's a lot of good answers. You could
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: talk me into a lot of players. I'm going out
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: of the buzzer here. I came into this conversation wanting
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: to say Greg Russell, Okay, I feel like he's just
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: the guy that shows up every week with pressures and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: run defense and owning his space and just doing like
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: not only making plays, but making plays that he doesn't.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Get credit for.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Khalil Shaki, right, I just wonder
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: where is this passing offense without him? It feels like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: he's been the stabilizing player. It feels like in every
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: game really was. I wouldn't say just wins, but in
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: most of these wins, it feels like there's a Khalil
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Sekir moment where he's able to rip off a big
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: one or make a tough catch over the middle of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: the field, and I feel like he truly does stabilize
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: this offense. And I think the Bills did a disservice
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: to him early in the year by not having Amari Cooper.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: I feel like the whole idea of like, hey, let's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: have these big bodies to win fifty fifty balls on
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: the perimeter and really occupy some attention is going to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: open up a lot of the middle of the field,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: and you didn't really have that. You learned some hard
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: lessons along the way with like early season Keon Coleman
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: and Mac Collins, and then it's like, well, yeah, Kincaiden
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: Shakir aren't going to be as effective because your whole
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: plan was for those guys to do what they're supposed
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: to do on the perimeter, and it's like, still Shakir
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: is able to make plays. I feel like, I feel
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: like he's so important for this offense, and I think
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: as the full complement of weapons really opens up, I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: think he'll continue to do all the yards after catch stuff.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: But we know, we know Joe Brady loves that slot
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: fade man and there's some there's some down the field
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: stuff that's gonna come here over the last six weeks
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: with Kaloshakir that I think is going to just.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Add to what he does.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: I just feel like he spent such a stabilizing player
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: for this offense and kind of going back to that question,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: where would this team be without and insert Greg Russou
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: and Katel secure feel like the two right names for me.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: But I think I'll lean more into the offensive player
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: this time.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: So I I it's funny just saying like going down
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: to the buzzer. Even now, like when I asked you it,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I was still going through my notes and my possibilities
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: of like am.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I really gonna stick with who? I guess there's multiple possibilities.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: I so one. I thought of Terrel Bernard.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: The reason I didn't end up going with him is
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: because the person I picked played in more games than
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Terrel Bernard. I also thought, although Terrell Bernard, you know,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I could again to kind of shade it the way
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: you know you put it, where would this team be
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: without you know, this person, even though Bernard plays at
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: such a high level and you know, higher than Baile Inspector.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I thought Spector came in and performed admirably and did
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: some things that I was like, okay, mitigated a little bit,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: not to the level of Bernard, and Bernard takes to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: another degree, but I was like, okay, that's that. I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: also thought of Taron Johnson, but then I thought the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: same degree, like, okay, cam Lewis came in, not playing
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: at an all pro level like Arran, but kind of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: mitigated some things. That plus the games played, led me
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: also to Khalils Shakir because my answer that and I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: asked myself the same question, where would they be without
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: this player? I also thought of Rousseau to to your point,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and I love real quick Russeau does so much that
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: also doesn't get noticed, like he is a force multiplier,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: especially because of how he plays the run. He does
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: so much that goes unnoticed and unrecognized with regularity, Like
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: even if he doesn't show up on for the pass rush,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I almost kind of don't care because he matters so
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: much against the run and does so much with his physicality,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: his size, and his intelligence and his length and knowing
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: how to play to it. But I landed on Shakiir
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: because the exact question, where would this team be without
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Khalils Shakir? And then I look at the rest of
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the pass catchers. Right Diggs goes away, everything is supposed
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: to everybody eats, everything is sunshine and rainbows, and we
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: find out quickly that you kind of do need somebody
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that can play at that type of level, and you
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: do need someone who can operate as a true X.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: They go out and they get Amari Cooper, which is nice,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: which is also why I thought this was I thought
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: this was an interesting answer from Robbie who his answer
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: was Cooper because he's put every other receiver in the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: right place, And I kind of thought that was an
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: interesting way to look at it, and I do agree
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: with that to a degree. But you know, so you
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: need Cooper to come in and do his thing, and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: like you said, everybody kind of having a play to
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: a higher level mess some things up a bit. But
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid has been banged up this year and has
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: been spotty. Key On Coleman has flashed positively as the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: season has gone along, but he's had his own inconsistencies.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel has been hurt. Dawson Knox is kind of
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: what Dawson Knox is. I really liked what matc. Collins
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: has done, but he's not gonna be this premier type
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: of wide receiver, although he's better than what he gets
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: credit for. So many people kind of making fun of him, like, oh,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Matt Collins, or he's gonna be a guy who's he's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: a ton of snaw. He's a great blocker, and he's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: actually a better receiver than he gets credit for.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: How about the clear out routes?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Like contrasting like in that yes and in the Kansas
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: City game, thinking about Trent Sherfield running those routes last
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: year and the defense is like just knowing, like you
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: are not on the menu, you are going through the motions.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: Mac Collins breaking runs every route like he's getting the ball,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: not to mention the blocking, not to mention just doing
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: little things like drawing penalties and acting like he's going
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: to catch the ball when it's not targeted, which frees up,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: you know, the different things in the offense. The special
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: teams has been outstanding. Mac Collins.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Boy, if he's your wide receiver four, you're you're doing
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: things right. Yep, that's that's exactly it. Like, I love him.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: If he's my wide receiver two or one, I'm like, oh,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: my wide receiver four, your bottom of the depth dark
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: guy is tremendous and he even little multiple touchdowns this
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: year against Cover zero because he's cooking safeties and beating
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: guys inside on some routes and even you know, he's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: not showing up on the box score because of it,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: but his ability to obstruct defenders legally when they run
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: mesh is.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: And they run bills run mesh all the time.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, and he is so integral in that success week
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: in and week out and freeing up whether it's you know,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the running back, you know, the traffic mesh coming out
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: of the backfield to cook like he set him up
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: for it in week two against Miami, or if it's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: the stuff you know, across Shaki or Samuel whoever. He's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: setting up for so good at that, but you know
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: he's not this top tier passing option, although he plays.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: His role well.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: All these other options in the past game, for one
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: reason or another, they've all presented various inconsistencies. This passing
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: game has flowed through Khalil Shakir this year and continues
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: to do so. He is the easy button. He makes
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: his own yardage more often than not. He finds space
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: and zone. He works with deception in his stems. I
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: think the biggest one of the frustrations for me with
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: all the yards after catch talk, which is is valid, right,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: You just throw them a quick little tunnel screen or
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: a quick little bubble, and he takes it for like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: eight to twelve yards with regular larity. He's breaking tackles,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: he's showing contact balance, he looks like a running back
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: once he gets the ball in his hands, just like
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: he did at Boise State. The thing that frustrates me
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: about that is I feel like it's really overshadowing how
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: good he is in his routes, in his stems. He
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: knows how to find the windows, he knows how to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: find the space. He knows how to read coverage and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: settle in the zone. He operates with good deception in
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: his stems. He is a craftsman when it comes to
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: actually running routes. And then when he gets the ball, Yeah,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: he's like this little mini ball of power and explosivity
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: and contact balance when he gets the ball in his hands.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: And I thought the way you framed it, and it
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: was the same way I framed it. Where would this
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: team be without this person?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Again, Statistically, Josh Allen's worst outing was against the Texans
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: for a large majority of that game, and there was
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: no Khalil secure that game. He does so much. He
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: is a large, easy button answer. He's been a consistent
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: game piece week in and week out, and behind the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: line scrimmage in the low intermediate and the high underneath,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: reliable hands, tough at the catch point, athletic, good route runner, crafty,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and that easy button piece.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: He's just been such a good answer. And how he
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: ties into the run game I think matters a lot
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: because we've seen so many RPOs or runs with pass
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: tags where Allen is just doing the How easy is
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: it for Josh Allen to be like what do we got.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: There's eight in the box, and there's it's the kind
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: of two on two out there, and one of them
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: is the safety. All Right, I'm just gonna spit it
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: out to Shakir really quick, and he can get nine
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: yards minimum and we'll kind of go from there. Like
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: he has been just such an easy button for the offense.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: And more importantly, Allen, I legitimately don't know where this
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: offense is without Khalil Shakir. And so I'm a thousand
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: percent and lockstep with you there, all right? Next one
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: got two more. I thought this one was kind of
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: fun Best newcomer it could be somebody. It could be
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: anybody who has acquired this offseason or in season, draft pick,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: free agent trade, Amari Cooper counts. Uh, you know, for
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: those of you playing at home, and for Joe as well,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: who's your best newcomer this year?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I have to go with keyon Coleman. I don't know how.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know how. There's a different answer, certainly.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Hast Collins. You can you can.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Make a case. You can make a case.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: But I mean, what's funny is that I think they
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: both they tied for the team lead and receiving touchdowns.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: They both have three each. Yeah, they're one and they're
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: both tied for the lead there.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: But uh, I mean it's disappointed that Coleman had the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: injury because I felt like he was really coming into
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: his own yeah yards after catch, doing you know, winning
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: those leverage battles, showing some growth as a route runner. Yes,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: it's uh, it's been good blocking. I think he's He's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: made Brandon Bean look like he made the right call
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: after a lot of us wondered if this was really
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: going to work out or if this was a type
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: of receiver that Josh Allen could really grow with, you know,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: just stylistically based on the guys that have been good
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: for Josh in the past. He's really like those players.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: So I think Coleman's been that guy. I can't wait
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: to see him get back out there. And you know,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: like I said, I think this once this entire complement
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: of weapons is available for Josh, I think individually, they're
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: all going to be positioned to be what they're supposed
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: to be and Josh just has to you know, make
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: the make the right decision with the ball continuously. But
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be a lot of good options,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: and I think Keon Kean's been the best one. And
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I thought you've already given us that. It's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: your answer. It's like, who else do you even invoke
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: to the conversation. I think it's pretty clearly him.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I could see someone saying Cooper, because you know, he
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: allows everyone else to fit into where they should from
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: a role standpoint, in depth charts standpoint.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: He's playing like a game and a half, you know exactly.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: That was my thing. The sample size just isn't there,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: although he's looked good.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: When in but it's just not there. I thought of
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Hollins for for all the reasons that we just listed
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: in the previous category. What he's done on special teams.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: What he's done is as role player and as a blocker,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: but also as a pass catcher, like even the Indianapolis game,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: you know he's catching multiple, you know, whole shots. The
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: scramble drill against Indianapolis at the.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: End of the first half, unreal.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: He's the number yes, he is the number one away
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: from the side that Josh Allen rolls to. He runs
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: a dig and haul's ass all the way across field.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Sees that the safety has gone over and that his
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: man has come up, he sees he slips behind him
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and takes off. Even he should have another touchdown because
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Alan missed him against Houston on a tremendous little slugo Like,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Hollins was really up there for me and it was
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: close between him and Keon. But yeah, like for everything
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: you said, I went with Kean and you hit all
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: the points. I'm not going to dwell on it too much.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: I just really wanted to also emphasize his progression this
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: year in the finer points.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Of the game.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I still think he's a long way from where he
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: needs to be in terms of a route runner, in
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: terms of refinement and polish. But coming into this year,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: he was my wide receiver nine. But he was one
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: of my favorite guys to talk about out of the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: draft class because he was my wide receiver nine. But
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I thought he could have like such a wide range
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: of outcomes in the league. Like I could have seen
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: him being like a really solid wide receiver two, like
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: a high end two or maybe a low tier one,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: or I could see him being out of the league
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: in like four years, or I could see him being
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: that guy who after his rookie deal keeps getting one
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: year deals because every team is like, you know what,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: I can be the one to.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Tech treadwell or whatever.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, literally that kind of guy. I can be the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: one to you know, get it out of him. I
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: can be the one to bring it. And for what
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: he's shown this year, just his progression little by little
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: in the finer things, and again he still needs to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: get there. I still don't love his footwear coming in
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: and out of his breaks at times, and he needs
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: more deception and and pacing and things. But showing some
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: improvements little by little, incrementally as the season has gone on,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: and then being able to play to the physical tools
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: and the trades. It's not easy to live in a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: kind of contested world, contested catch.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: World power forward in the post.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: You know, type of game. And we've seen him kind
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: of work it with regularity. That catch, the one hander
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: against Seattle was just ridiculous, the back shoulder catch against Arizona,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: the couple against Baltimore, and he's had some drops along
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: the way, but you know, the the little ugly pass
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: tag that he didn't catch where it hits him, donks
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: him right in the head against Houston, the one he
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: botched against Miami that leads to the pick against Ramsey.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: But then he's also doing that same thing against Tennessee
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: and taking it like fifty yards down towards the red
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: zone and in the field goal territory like what he's shown.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: And again, like you said, like I think it's been
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: like Okay, may Brandon being looked pretty good for kind
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: of trading down and you know, taking him and getting
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: him where he got him.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it was close.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Between Keon and Hollins, but I went with Keon just
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: because of h I don't know, maybe more more flashiness
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and sexiness. But shout out to mc collins because I
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: think he belongs in that kind of conversation. But other
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: than those two, I don't see who. It's none of
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: the other draft picks. It's none of the other acquisition.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And again and Mary Cooper, like you said, he has
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: not played enough a little fun one to to uh
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: end this for us, Joe favorite moment or play of
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: the year so far for.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: You, I think I think the can contenders here are
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: pretty obvious. The rushing touchdown against Arizona for Josh Allen
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: where he hurdles at the end zone.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, hurdles Buddha, who's like one of the best safeties
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: in the business.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Tarn Johnson's interception to close out the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: Jets game. That's a big one, as I mean, they
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: were they were don the field goal, you know, and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: they had a chance to make that play. And Tarren said, no,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: I think the sixty one yard field goal from Tyler Bass.
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  Speaker 3: Oh gool.
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  Speaker 5: But it's it's with Josh Allen on fourth and two.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: Man fair enough, it's enough, said Jim Nance called it
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: the play of the year in the NFL. It's it's
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: the whole thing, man, It's the the circumstances, it's the
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: decision to go for it. It's Bill having man beaters
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: in Kansas City running zone, but Josh Allen having the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: presence of mind to know that it's a bunch of
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: mesh routes and so the eyes are looking to cap routes.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: So it's kind of like man anyway, So you take
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: the crease and like making four dudes, miss, are you
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: getting to beat the Chiefs and put them on ice?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: I think that's got to be the answer. But those
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: are my contenders. Kind of curious to see where you
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: go with this one.
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  Speaker 3: So that I think that's the obvious one.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I went with two others as like a little tie
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: because I figured this would be yours or kind of
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: like everyone's answer. But yeah, that I mean that Allen
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: fourth and two. And I love how you highlighted it,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: like I spoke about it on Twitter, just how that
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: played out and how the Chiefs were so busy passing
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: off the mesh and they did a brilliant job. They
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: took everything away. But with doing that, they parted the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: red Sea and vacated the middle and no one's watching Alan,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: and Alan sees it. He pumps to Tye Johnson and
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: then immediately gets his eyes back and.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: See how it sees how everything disperses and is like.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, and it just takes off and runs through
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: the heart of their defense.
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  Speaker 5: Like how many quarterbacks they'll get tackled by Carl Loftis right,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: you know, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, yes, so.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Great call, Like how many who?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: How many guys they take off right when they take
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: off or had the physical ability to get through all
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: the people that he got through, not just the volume
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: of bodies, but the kinds of bodies like you mentioned,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: like Carloftis and then everybody downfield like what he was
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: able to do.
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  Speaker 3: And then yeah, on fourth.
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  Speaker 1: Down against the Chiefs, how how easy would it have
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: been for us to all seen the movie that we've
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: seen before. Up Kansas City got the stop and then
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: they go down, they kick the field goal and they
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: win twenty four to twenty three, just like they do
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: to everybody.
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  Speaker 5: You know exactly what happens. Yeah, you kick the field goal.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes says, what two ten left? Then there's a
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: game winning pass to Travis Kelcey after he caught two
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: passes all.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Game, and we're boohooing for two weeks. Yep. Maybe Bass
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: makes the kick and they go down and score there.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe Bass misses the kick, or you get stopped on
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: fourth and two and Kansas City just gets like another
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: twenty five thirty yards and of course some no name
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: kicker they brought off the street for but kerr nail,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: some like fifty yard kick and they win and they
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: go to ten and oh, like we've all seen that before.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: So the moment I think was great. That's that's gotta
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: be like the play of your favorite moment. I will
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: but you know, so mine, just to give another one.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Mine are super nerdy and it's just because I'm a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: defense guy. The cover one mesh pass offs for the
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Bills against Seattle and against the Colts.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: It is so.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Hard in that coverage to properly pass off and change
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: who the low hole player and who's covering the shallow
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: and the drag to pass all that off in the
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: blink of an eye. It takes coaching, It takes individual
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: recognition and execution and discipline, and then the fact of
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: who it came with. So against the Colts, it was
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: that one on fourth down Flacco as the whole day.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: Quentin Jefferson gets the sack, but it's the normal guys.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: You think it's.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Bernard and it's Taron Johnson and then cam Lewis because
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: they're in dime against Seattle, Bernard was out and it
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: was Specter that was orchestrating that pass off, and it
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: was the air traffic controller and calling it out, and
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: it's so hard to get that. Okay, hey, you know,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: let me communicate to the safety because the running back
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: switched and he's going to be running the rail because
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: it's mesh rail, So okay, you got to take the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: running back you're pushing out there. I'm sitting in the
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: low hole. Here comes the mesh. I'm gonna pick up
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the shallow. You're gonna sit there and pick up the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: other drag Taran. Now you're gonna sit You're gonna become
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the hole or cam Lewis is going to become that.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: To do all that in about a quarter or a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: half of a second, I think it speaks to the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: larger and this is part of it. It's great in
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: the individual execution in a vacuum, but I think it
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: speaks to the larger point of how well this defense
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: is coached, how good they are at adjusting. Because they
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: got beat on Mesh early in the game against Seattle
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: and earlier in the game against Indianapolis. But that's another
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: example of how they course correct, how they identify as
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: players but also as a coaching staff, and how well
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: the coaches were able to get backups and depth guys
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: to execute at a high level in high leverage moments
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: against good teams and good players. So I know that's
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: super niche and detailed. But those those two are going
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: to stick out for me for forever. But again they
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: pale in comparison to I guess the actual correct answer,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: But I pocketed these just because I figured your answer
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: and everyone else would.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: Be they You didn't think I was going to come
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: in here with that. Huh, all right, gotcha? Well split flow?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: What do you want to get?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: My favorite play was a second and seven split zone
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: run cook for nine.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Take a hike? Man, what was that answer? Dude?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Never changed? My guy never changed?
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Oh but yeah, that that Alan play.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite play?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: Well against Seattle in Indianapolis, the way that they ran
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: cover and passed off routes.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, it's great, But no, I got damboozled there.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: If I had to give my the answer is the
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen run against Kansas City.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: But I knew that. I'm like, I'm gonna bring off
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: these other cool tools.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: What I am interested to see is I wonder if
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: there is anything that tops the Allen run against Kansas City.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I hope not, like, yeah, that's that's gonna be Like
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: it would take something special because, like you said, it
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: had everything and not just the individual play, but who
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: it was against, when it came and how it came.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: That's and I totally missed, like the call of it
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: of Nancaying, like play of the year.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: That really could be. That's uh.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: I wish it happened in like week fifteen or sixteen,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: because I feel like that's like more of an MVP
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: type of play, you know what I mean, Like like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: like instead of having your Heisman moment in like week
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: two or three, you want it like in you know,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship, or I would think of Charles Woodson,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: you know house and that pun against Ohio State, like
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: you want it in later, but also in that big moment.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: I wonder if it came a little too early.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's gotta be the obvious one.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Aside from obviously how they play.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: You know, there was one, uh, there was one punt
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: return when Brandon Codrington fielded the ball off the hop
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: instead of letting it go behind him where it's like
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: the save thirty yards of field position.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: That was probably my favorite play.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: You know, that's fair, we're in agreement.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I just also mentioned these others because I knew what
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: the answer would be.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: You wait, you just wait till the next time I'm
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: on this show.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: You just wait to see what I come up with.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: I'm very excited for that. I should have I should
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: have been I should have. I liked the idea of
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: kind of what you mentioned.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: It should have been harder, yeah, but like yeah, second
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: and seven they go weeks mid zone week for six yards.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: I really liked it because of this block. Oh man,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: that's funny. I like that.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start to wind down and send everybody on
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: their merry way. But Joe, I know it's very late
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: for you. I will let you go and be on
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: your merry way. First, you crushed it as always. I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: had a blast as always talking with you offline before
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: you joined it. And then the actual content of the
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: show a one stuff as always, you know, when it
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: comes to anything and everything you do. Just in case
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: people don't know who you are and what you do
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: and where they can find you, the floor is yours,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: plug anything and everything that you got.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Thanks man, Joe Marino.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: Locked on Bills daily podcast on the Bills, do a
• 1:22:20
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• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: have the NFL First Read podcast with Brett Whitefield. We
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: started doing that this well, I guess we started over
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: the summer. So two daily podcasts and another one that's
• 1:22:37
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• 1:22:39
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• 1:22:42
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• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: love the Bills, love Bill's Mafia and having a lot
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: of fun. So thanks for having me on and that's
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: where you can kind of find all the work. I'm
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: also on the Blue Sky. Do you think I don't know?
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  Speaker 5: What do you call it?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Your handle? It's the same what do you Joe Marino?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: So same?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Also I don't know, yeah, if you call the same thing.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: And also, what do you call like a tweet?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: A tweet?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: Like a post on Twitter is a tweet? What do
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: you call a post on Blue Skotch.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: I've some people say.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know a sky tweet?
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's buddy.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: We No, you are just the amount of stuff that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: you put out. Oh yeah, Lauren said the same thing too.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: It's called skate.
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  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. I love it. You are one of the
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: hardest working dudes in the business.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: And the amount of the volume of content that you
• 1:23:37
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• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: think is a true testament of just you know, how
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: good you are at what you do and how much.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: You've honed your craft and I respect the hell Outia.
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  Speaker 1: This was an absolute blast for a multitude of reasons
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: and uh and uh a multitude of moments, and I
• 1:23:54
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• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: this to sing your praises again in written form.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: But enjoy the rest of your Tuesday. Get some sleep.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: This was awesome. I appreciate the hell idea and thank
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: you very much again.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Thanks brother, enjoyed it a goe see dude, one of
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: the best in the business, mister Joe Marino.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: Let me grab this super chat.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: From I don't want to get yelled at by Carl
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: again from missing the super chat.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: I saw it.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Carl said, what do I do on Sunday with no
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Bills game on?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: I tell you, I just enjoy.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: You know, if I'll tell you what I'm going to do,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I just enjoy the day without having to worry about
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: like the Bills game, I don't have to take super
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: in depth notes during a game.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: I can just sit and watch whatever's on. I'll put Red.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Zone on my iPad or on the TV and put
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the certain game on my iPad versus the TV
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: and kind of just figure it all out. But just
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I think you just chill, enjoy the day, you know,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: depending on where you live. Enjoy the weather, maybe go
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: off for a walk in the morning, just relax, just
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: enjoy the day, kick your feet up, enjoy some football.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: There's good soccer on this weekend, so if you're a
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: soccer guy, maybe watch some soccer in the morning or
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: a little throughout the afternoon if that's the poison you
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: want to pick. Just enjoy the day. And I have
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: to worry about the stress of your team playing. Unless
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: you also play fantasy football, then every weekend as hell,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: because fantasy football is hell.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, yeah, you.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Get some suggestions here, Pop says, cheer for whoever is
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: playing the fish kam Moore, He says, watch the demise
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: of the other AFC East teams. Yeah, so kind of
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: just you know, it's uh, it's kind of just whatever
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: you want. Joe says, it's impossible for me to relax.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: I must become anxious on another team's behalf. I think
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of people just do that for fantasy too,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Like there is no relaxation. I tell this is the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: second year in which I've done no fantasy football because
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: I just got to a level of absolute insanity and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: intensity when it came to fantasy football in terms of
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: my anger and frustration. And that says a person who
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: I was making championships in winning leagues. But I got
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: to the point where like I was winning leagues and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: it didn't feel good anymore. It just felt like I
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: could breath, and I was like, this is healthy. I
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: gotta scale it back. And it's been awesome not having
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: to worry about anything, just sitting back and relaxing.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: It's been a very very nice thing.
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  Speaker 2: I like this from Lauren.
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  Speaker 3: Lauren, you're the best.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren says, go buy your wives some nice Christmas gifts
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  Speaker 3: And then she blind c seed my husband. That's good.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: That's super good. Oh that's super good. Yeah, it will
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: take Lauren's advice. Go out and get some Christmas gifts.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: I like that. The BCC got me, The blind CEC
• 1:26:37
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• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: really good.
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  Speaker 1: Tots donation box and receive a chance to win one
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  Speaker 1: of many great prizes. This year's prizes include a sign
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen custom jersey, a sign James could custom jersey,
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  Speaker 1: one free pizza a month for a year for free pizzas,
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  Speaker 1: and then fifth place is one free pizza. They are
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  Speaker 1: the best when it comes to pizza in Buffalo, sweet sauce,
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  Speaker 1: pie cup and charp Pepperoni, a great cheese a sauce ratio.
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  Speaker 1: As I know Joe DeRosa is a fan of They
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  Speaker 1: make their own homemade blue cheese. They also do catering,
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  Speaker 1: breakfast pizzas, a whole bunch of different options. Their food
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  Speaker 1: is truly great and they also do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good for the community. I said it last week, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Christmas is my favorite time of the year, and I
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  Speaker 1: noticed for a lot of other people as well. But
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  Speaker 1: it can also be kind of a sad or stressful
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  Speaker 1: or worrisometime of year for a lot of folks. Parents, kids,
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  Speaker 1: just different stuff. So if you can donate, and even
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  Speaker 1: if it's not to you know, one pie, if it's
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  Speaker 1: to a charity or to a church or somewhere something
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  Speaker 1: where you can give back and try and brighten the
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  Speaker 1: lives of families or kids or whatever. Just trying to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that every kid gets a gift or a
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  Speaker 1: president on Christmas. I think that's a very awesome thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just plugging this because I know they're doing it.
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  Speaker 1: I know where you can drop the toys off, and
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  Speaker 1: you can also get some delicious food while you're at
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  Speaker 1: it and a chance to win a prize.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're in it.
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  Speaker 1: For the food, that's cool. If you're in it for
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: the kids and the donation, that's cool. Or if you're
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  Speaker 1: in it for pure selfishness because you want to try
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  Speaker 1: and win a prize, I guess that's fine as well.
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  Speaker 1: But go check out One Pie Pizza stop by drop
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  Speaker 1: a toy off. You get a ticket for every toy
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  Speaker 1: that you drop off, So if you drop off five toys,
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  Speaker 1: you essentially get five chances to win one of these prizes.
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  Speaker 1: So go and do that. If you folks would not
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  Speaker 1: mind and are able to do that, Thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for that. Suspinar says blue Sky handle. It's not
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  Speaker 1: in the description. I will put it my blue Sky
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  Speaker 1: handle is, so there's no underscore.
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  Speaker 3: I just put it into the comments. Actually, let me
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  Speaker 3: confirm what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's what it is it is Jesse. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just pro Ant no underscore. They wouldn't let me
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  Speaker 1: put underscores, which is ironic because I wanted to just
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  Speaker 1: do pro Ant on Twitter when I created my handle,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: but somebody else already had pro Ant, and then someone
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  Speaker 1: else had pro Ant with just one underscore, so that's why.
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  Speaker 3: I went with the two.
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  Speaker 1: But now you're not allowed underscores or like weird characters
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  Speaker 1: on blue Sky, so it's just pro ants yep, got it.
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  Speaker 3: There.
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting out the same the same content there. Basically
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: everything that I post on Twitter, I post a blue Sky.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Dennis says, blue Sky just know, let's keep cover one
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  Speaker 1: a political I don't know what is is blue Sky
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  Speaker 1: like a political?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anything. I didn't join blue Sky for
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: anything political related.
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  Speaker 1: I just did it because a couple of people I
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  Speaker 1: know did it, and so I just I just copy
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  Speaker 1: and paste my tweets and put them in the blue Sky.
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  Speaker 1: It's not nothing to do with politics for me. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so actually I'll pull it up right here? Can I
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  Speaker 1: put my own comment?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I can? Yeah, that's my blue Sky handle.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: So again, similar content to what I'm putting down on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter just pretty much copying and paste and stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: Joe says, it's blue Sky, but my skies are gray
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  Speaker 1: when there's no bills football. If I could, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to. I can't kick you out of the room,
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  Speaker 1: or can I?
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  Speaker 3: No? I can't. What can I do? Can I can
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  Speaker 3: band put a user to time out? I might put
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: you in a timeout? How dare you for your corniness?
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  Speaker 3: But I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a good time. Appreciate you, uh, cessmer,
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  Speaker 1: I'm for asking about the Blue Sky handle. So yeah, folks,
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  Speaker 1: check me out on Blue Sky, check me out on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing political about it for me. I just talk football.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even get into my personal life on anything
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  Speaker 1: with Twitter or Blue Sky. I'm not posting anything on
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: me or my family or friends or dinners I eat,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: or vacations, let alone politics. I just post football content,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: bill stuff, NFL stuff, x IS and O scheme structure,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: advanced metrics. That's the only reason I'm on Blue Sky,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: so I can share more of that and try and
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  Speaker 1: continue to gain traction in this community.
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  Speaker 3: Very very very.
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  Speaker 1: Grateful for mister Joe Marino dropping by on this episode
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  Speaker 1: and spending all the time with me.
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  Speaker 3: He crushed it. As always.
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  Speaker 1: If you folks are not consuming what Joe does, I'm
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: assuming a lot of you are, you should be check
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: him out on Twitter at the Joe Marino, same handle
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: for Blue Sky as well at the Joe Marino does
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  Speaker 1: a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of great stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Many thanks to him for riding with me into the
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: week hours in the night for him and having this
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: really fun, awesome conversation. Thank you very much to everybody
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: who tuned in live for this episode. That was very,
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  Speaker 1: very very awesome. It was I thought this was a
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: fun kind of concept, you know, some awards and superlatives.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about doing something similar at the end of
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: the year, maybe a couple of points in the off season.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fun to kind of quantify things, rank things,
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  Speaker 1: and hand out you know, awards and superlatives at different
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: points throughout the year.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought this was a fun episode and.
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  Speaker 1: Really good attendance and engagement from all of you in
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: the live chat, So thank you very much for that.
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• 1:33:16
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• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: out one pie, get yourself some delicious food, and also
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: drop off some toys for tots. I appreciate all the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: kind words for myself and Joe throughout the entirety of
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: this episode. Oh, thank you very much for that one, Carl.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I like the blue I like the muffins and the
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: blueberry reference.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for tying in the intro. And also, Carl,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: thank you very much for just being here in general
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: and for your two super chats. I really appreciate it.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: That was very awesome to see again. I appreciate you, folks.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: I hope you and your family and friends and loved
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: ones are all doing well and staying safe. Be kind
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: to one another, take care of one another, enjoy the
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: bye week.
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  Speaker 3: If you have any.
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  Speaker 1: Questions, thoughts, comments, concerns on anything and everything, feel free
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: to get at me on Twitter or at me on
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Blue Sky. I will see you tomorrow for another episode
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: of the Cover one Film Room, and if not, then
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: until I see you next Tuesday, nine pm Eastern for
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: another episode of Disguise Coverage. I'm Anthew Prohaska. I greatly
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: appreciate you, folks. Godspeed, and as always, go Bills