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ARI-ONNE THIN ICE! | LAMH Recap with Claudia, Dustin and Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. All right, so the time has come
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  Speaker 1: for Claudia, Dustin, Blue, and I to talk about Love
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  Speaker 1: and Marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Huntsville new season.
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  Speaker 1: We want to get into the scene between Monster and Maurice.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people who do not
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  Speaker 1: like that name.
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  Speaker 2: That's his nickname. I don't make the rules. Why? What
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  Speaker 2: do you do? Why that's his nickname? Yeah. You know
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  Speaker 2: what's so funny?
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't Monster a nickname for a head?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why. No, that's brain.
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  Speaker 4: That's brain.
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  Speaker 3: I heard monster, so you gave me that monster.
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  Speaker 5: No, that's a guap wrap 3000.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you want to get monster from getting head.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's teeth.
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  Speaker 4: That's not good.
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  Speaker 2: They never talked about it. But good. Good question for
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  Speaker 2: the reunion. I will ask for you, Claudia. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: And I will give you a shout out.
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  Speaker 1: Monster, unfortunately, failed out of school his freshman year. They
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  Speaker 1: want to watch her dust it.
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  Speaker 2: You know that.
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  Speaker 1: Marie spent years Wanting his son to live with him
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  Speaker 1: in Huntsville because his ex-wife lives in Detroit. Monster lived
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  Speaker 1: with him and Maurice had all of these rules. And
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  Speaker 1: it appears that based on what we're seeing that, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: it just did not work. Monster made it very clear
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  Speaker 1: last night, I mean, in this past episode that Maurice
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  Speaker 1: was hard on him.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, said, I don't want to be here
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  Speaker 2: and I want to, you know, figure stuff out for me.
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  Speaker 1: Dust, what are your thoughts on the whole thing between
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  Speaker 1: Monster and Maurice?
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  Speaker 6: Maurice was too hard on Monster, it appears. And he is,
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  Speaker 6: it's just like a preacher's kid, right? You have all
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  Speaker 6: these rules at home and the minute you get a
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  Speaker 6: taste of freedom, you're all out. That's what happened. And
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  Speaker 6: he's not, it's not a singular case. Kids funk out
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  Speaker 6: of college all the time. Freshman year is too much
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  Speaker 6: for some kids. That's why you have to give your
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  Speaker 6: kids freedom.
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  Speaker 7: You can't.
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  Speaker 6: And to me, I remember, again, day one viewer, I
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  Speaker 6: remember Maurice fighting like hell because he wanted Monster in
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  Speaker 6: his care, you know what I'm saying, as he entered
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  Speaker 6: into young manhood. But when you was trying to impose
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  Speaker 6: on them rules, you just didn't do it right. And
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  Speaker 6: it's okay because people make mistakes in parenting, right? But
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  Speaker 6: he took the wrong approach. And I think that I
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  Speaker 6: remember feeling back in the day like his pursuit of
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  Speaker 6: Monster was Being in his home was kind of self-serving
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  Speaker 6: in a way. Like, I want to be the dad
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  Speaker 6: that went and got my son when he entered his
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  Speaker 6: manhood years. And once he did that, I just think
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  Speaker 6: he took the wrong approach instead of connecting. Munster said
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  Speaker 6: he just wanted a connection. He wanted a dad-son relationship.
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  Speaker 6: So that's what happened. Hopefully he get his shit together.
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  Speaker 7: Claudia?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a day one winner, of course. But would
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  Speaker 3: it be wrong to assume that sometimes people want to
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  Speaker 3: take on these roles because it's a good look?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 3: And then they get the responsibility. It's like, damn, because
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  Speaker 3: it seemed like he's a little awkward with it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember having a friend in junior high school
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  Speaker 3: that very, very strict parents and they didn't want her
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  Speaker 3: to like be fast. And the moment we went on
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  Speaker 3: our first road trip without the parents around, she was
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  Speaker 3: the biggest hoe.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because like, you know, they went too far.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what they're going for.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, damn, Clyde. That's how it goes.
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  Speaker 3: I walked in and this girl, she was 14, about
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  Speaker 3: to suck dick. Okay, wow.
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  Speaker 5: And I was still a virgin.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, well, damn.
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  Speaker 5: Sponsored by Deke.
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  Speaker 3: But I think your father was too strict on you.
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  Speaker 3: So the first chance you get, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I let my cat roam the backyard.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, which cat?
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  Speaker 3: Seven. Yeah, seven.
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  Speaker 2: No, he met your vagina, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, oh. Black pocket? Black pocket.
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  Speaker 4: Black cat?
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  Speaker 8: Black cat.
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  Speaker 7: Meow.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I let her roam the backyard. The same principles apply.
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  Speaker 9: Right, right.
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  Speaker 3: I let my cat roam the backyard. So it's not
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  Speaker 3: such a big deal. So when she gets out there,
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  Speaker 3: she's not wilding out.
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  Speaker 2: Got to let your cat roam a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Is it a metaphor?
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  Speaker 5: What's happening?
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  Speaker 3: It's a metaphor. It's metaphorically speaking.
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  Speaker 7: Let your cat roam.
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  Speaker 3: You got to let your cat roam.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Let that cat roam.
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  Speaker 8: So, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a big deal, you know, wild hours.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 5: The studio audience is clapping for you. Let your cat roam.
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  Speaker 2: Let the cat roam.
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  Speaker 4: This is actually a great conversation to have after the
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  Speaker 4: conversation we have with Loves.
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  Speaker 9: This is where the tenderness and all that smoke needs
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  Speaker 9: to come from that you have from the men on
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  Speaker 9: your couch.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 5: No, no. No, seriously.
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  Speaker 4: This is where it belongs because when men have not.
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  Speaker 9: healed themselves and how they feel about their masculinity, they
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  Speaker 9: perform it.
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  Speaker 4: And they push it on their sons a lot.
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  Speaker 9: All that, like, what about the men and their feelings?
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  Speaker 9: This is where I think that conversation belongs. That young
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  Speaker 9: boy is learning about how to deal with himself by
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  Speaker 9: watching his father deal with himself and deal with him.
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  Speaker 9: If your father is ill at ease having compassion with
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  Speaker 9: you and tenderness with you and like having a real
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  Speaker 9: conversation with you where you can be messy and human
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  Speaker 9: and figure out intimacy, you're going to be like ill
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  Speaker 9: at ease with yourself.
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  Speaker 4: And you're going to want to run far away and
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  Speaker 4: find yourself. And so it breaks my heart that so
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  Speaker 4: much time black men will be worried about how their
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  Speaker 4: masculine looks next to their woman or their partner when
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  Speaker 4: whole time their sons are where they need to do
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  Speaker 4: the work. Because if he was comfortable with himself and
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  Speaker 4: he would be like, yo, I know what it's like
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  Speaker 4: to be a young boy and to be overwhelmed and
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  Speaker 4: to have all these feelings and to be falling under
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  Speaker 4: this feeling of having to be perfect. My son's probably
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  Speaker 4: going through the same thing. Let me talk to him
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  Speaker 4: about his feelings.
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  Speaker 3: Maurice can be pageant sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: He's very pageant.
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  Speaker 3: He can be pageant where it's like, you got to
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  Speaker 3: say the right answer, the right thing. You have the
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  Speaker 3: pageant answer. And then you'd be like, oh, okay. We'd
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  Speaker 3: rather see a flawed, you know, I fuck up sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't always get it right. But you know it's
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  Speaker 3: annoying when someone always says the right thing all the time.
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  Speaker 3: That's not real. Real life is not flawless. Real life
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  Speaker 3: has flaws and mess ups and mistakes. And I learned
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  Speaker 3: from that. I don't feel like he gives that. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like he gives what he's supposed to say.
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  Speaker 7: And that's ineffective as a parent.
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  Speaker 3: You can't relate to that.
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  Speaker 9: Well, your father's more, because I'm really curious about masculinity
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  Speaker 9: a lot right now.
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  Speaker 3: What's it like having a dad?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Papa, can you hear me? Me and Claudia as the
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  Speaker 5: love children.
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  Speaker 2: Black fathers are at home.
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  Speaker 8: Right. How does that feel?
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I've been extremely dead. Who I spoke to this morning.
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  Speaker 2: He called me last night.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 5: You had a dad and he's alive?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You won the lottery and he supports your adventures?
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  Speaker 5: You have his number?
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  Speaker 8: And he's black.
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  Speaker 5: And he's black? Oh my God, a lot of us.
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  Speaker 2: No, he called me last night.
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  Speaker 1: I was on stage, obviously, so I called him back
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  Speaker 1: this morning. And I said, hey, I missed your call
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  Speaker 1: last night.
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  Speaker 2: What did I want? This is a true story.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people online who are negatively talking
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  Speaker 1: about you.
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  Speaker 5: I said.
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  Speaker 2: But that ain't why I called you. But anyway, I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't need my morning to be disturbed by.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, maybe we don't want our dad to call us.
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  Speaker 2: No, but I'm going to say this. My father's nickname
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  Speaker 2: in the neighborhood was Joe Jackson. My father was a
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  Speaker 2: very strict disciplinarian.
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  Speaker 1: I've been very open and honest about, you know, me
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  Speaker 1: and my father not having the best relationship because out
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  Speaker 1: of 10 kids, I'm the fifth child, the first gay one.
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  Speaker 2: And I have a gay brother. He's like the youngest.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, there's others? That's dope, though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And a bunch of niece and nephew. Oh. They
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  Speaker 2: mean I'll tell. No, I'm teasing. My bad, girl. It
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  Speaker 2: be in the blood. It be in the blood.
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  Speaker 1: I'm close to my dad now. But growing up, my father,
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  Speaker 1: and I said this, I think, last week. Black fathers
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  Speaker 1: have this dream for their sons. It's just, it's unspoken.
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  Speaker 1: And I was in my father's dream.
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  Speaker 8: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's a hurtful thing to say.
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  Speaker 2: No, but hear me out.
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  Speaker 8: Hear me out.
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  Speaker 2: The reason why I can say that without getting emotional.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting emotional.
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  Speaker 2: It's because you're rich. And we're back.
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  Speaker 5: Can we keep it? I'm like, tender moment of burden.
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  Speaker 5: Good job, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: You want to cry?
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  Speaker 5: She's about to cry. He's like, this nigga rich. Stop crying.
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  Speaker 2: So, listen. I will go on record saying I just
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  Speaker 2: don't think there's any... There's not a lot. Let me
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  Speaker 2: not say any.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of black men whose
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  Speaker 1: dream is their son being gay. Right.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's fair to say.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm making a dad sense like.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to do what you need.
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  Speaker 2: But my point is my dad, I.
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  Speaker 1: Was 33 and I said to him, I spent the
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  Speaker 1: rest of my life thinking you didn't like me.
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  Speaker 2: That you didn't like me.
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  Speaker 1: And he instantly apologized. And he owned up to this
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  Speaker 1: weirdness he had with me. And he was very tough
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  Speaker 1: on me. And when he said to me, he said,
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  Speaker 1: I was always tough on you because you were smart.
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  Speaker 1: He said, you were always smart. And I always knew
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  Speaker 1: you was going.
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  Speaker 2: To be something. He said, now granted, I didn't see this.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, I didn't see the deep.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see the deep. Damn. Carlos said, I did. Damn.
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  Speaker 5: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: My mom was alive at the time. She said, I
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  Speaker 2: saw all of this.
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  Speaker 1: But my point is, as a black man who grew
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  Speaker 1: up in a household with black brothers, a black mama, sisters,
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  Speaker 1: and a black father.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I will give my dad 100% of the credit.
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  Speaker 2: And my mother deserves a bunch of credit.
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  Speaker 1: But the one credit that I will give my black
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  Speaker 1: father is the fact that me along with my six
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  Speaker 1: brothers are not in jail.
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  Speaker 2: We're not in gangs.
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  Speaker 1: That man was the sole provider financially and still found
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  Speaker 1: a way to make sure that his boys did not
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  Speaker 1: end up in jail. And that's why years later, I
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  Speaker 1: make sure to take care of him financially because the
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  Speaker 1: life that I get to live today is because of
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  Speaker 1: the sacrifice that he made for me and my siblings. So, again,
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to this dream, I think Maurice is
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  Speaker 1: somebody who may have... Been a little bit too heavy
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  Speaker 1: handed because when I look at Monster, I look at
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  Speaker 1: a young man who's trying to find himself.
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  Speaker 7: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Monster doesn't want to disappoint his father.
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  Speaker 1: And when I said that I knew I was my
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  Speaker 1: father's dream, I think Monster is saying to himself.
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  Speaker 3: I know I'm not my father's dream right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: On television.
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  Speaker 8: On TV.
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  Speaker 2: On TV, no less. And as I'm trying to find mine,
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm disappointing him.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It's tough. It's tough.
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  Speaker 8: It's tough.
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  Speaker 2: All right, moving on to... We.
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  Speaker 5: So deep in person.
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  Speaker 2: I know, that was good. That was good. Dad, I
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  Speaker 2: love you. I'll call you tomorrow, child, because Lord knows
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  Speaker 2: he'll get some texts. Okay. So listen, we had a
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  Speaker 2: lot to talk about today. I do want to get into...
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  Speaker 2: So Chris, let's get into.
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  Speaker 1: The moment between Martel bringing Arianne to the event. Because
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  Speaker 1: we are going over time and I want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that... Thank you, Chris, that we really lay some
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  Speaker 1: groundwork for this. Once again, Claudia and Blue, the audience....
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  Speaker 7: Really, what are.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all opinion on Arianne joining the show? In this particular scene,
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  Speaker 1: Martel brought Arianne to meet the cast, to meet his group.
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  Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of conversation about Ariane making commentary.
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  Speaker 2: About, I don't want to be like y'all.
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  Speaker 7: Look at y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Look at y'all.
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  Speaker 1: And this big debate about Destiny and Martel's friendship. So
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  Speaker 1: starting with you, Dustin, because I like to tease the ladies.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on Martel bringing Ariane to meet
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  Speaker 1: the group?
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  Speaker 7: It was surreal.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, like watching it happen in front of
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  Speaker 6: my face was kind of like, wow, okay, this is
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  Speaker 6: really happening, right? I wonder why Arianne didn't feel, I
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  Speaker 6: wonder where her sense of pride came from in that moment,
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  Speaker 6: because she was not being, it didn't look like she
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  Speaker 6: was valued to me. It looked like she was like,
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  Speaker 6: finally now, you know, now I can do this now.
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  Speaker 6: Also just keeping it based on what was on the screen.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to go too far back in time.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 6: But just keeping it based on what was on the
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  Speaker 6: screen tonight, she came in argumentative and combative and being
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  Speaker 6: downright rude to the rest of the cast. And I
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  Speaker 6: don't know what she thought that was going to, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know where she thought that was going to take
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  Speaker 6: her because it was the wrong road.
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  Speaker 7: I thought Nell was being fake, right?
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  Speaker 6: Because in Nell's confessional, she was saying how, in Nell's confessional,
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  Speaker 6: she was more like, this is what y'all get. Now
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  Speaker 6: y'all don't have nothing to say. She's here now. All
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  Speaker 6: y'all were talking about her. But when Nell was at
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  Speaker 6: Martel's party with, Destiny in the beginning when Arian came
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  Speaker 6: in with a funky ass attitude and asking what's the
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  Speaker 6: energy and, you know, speaking in fast forward and shit.
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  Speaker 6: Cause she was speaking in FF all night. What's the energy?
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  Speaker 6: Everything was X2, two times speed, but But when in
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  Speaker 6: that scene, Nell was telling, remember, in that scene, Nell
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  Speaker 6: was telling Destiny, oh.
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  Speaker 7: She don't want none of this. She coming in all right.
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  Speaker 7: She don't want none of this. Doing all that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: But then in the confessional, she's like getting joy out
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  Speaker 6: of watching everybody act differently because Arianne is in the room.
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  Speaker 6: So that was a little confusing for me. But Arianne
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  Speaker 6: came in being rude and nasty and acting immature, acting
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  Speaker 6: like a kid, asking stupid questions at the table, just
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  Speaker 6: creating problems, adding to the tension. Just being negative is fucked.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't understand what she thought that was. And
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  Speaker 6: another thing she was saying, she wanted to see if
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  Speaker 6: she could pursue relationships with the people on the cast.
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  Speaker 6: What people was she talking about, Carlos? Because it couldn't
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  Speaker 6: have been Kimmy, Tisha, Marceau, Maurice, damn sure it wasn't Destiny.
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  Speaker 6: Nell and Fletcher will talk to anybody. They don't care.
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  Speaker 6: They just cool and happy to be there type shit.
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  Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. So who is she
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  Speaker 2: hoping on fostering these relationships with?
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  Speaker 7: Do you know?
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll find out in the episode.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Claudia, what were your thoughts on, well, first of all,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: the audience, the Monday Night Live-ers have not heard from
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: you in response to Arianne joining the show and we
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: could break down this scene too.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: It makes me really question Martel and his sanity. This
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: is who you blew up your marriage for. This girl
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: seems slow. She's a mess. She came in with all
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: the smoke. She's not reading the room. She's making it
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: difficult for her man, her man, her man, with his
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: circle of people. She seems very immature. She seems like
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: someone who's never had a man publicly claim her before.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: She's just way too happy to be there, like, just
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: on some, like, I'm here. And even in the interview,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: it gave like weird step for wife. Like, well, as
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: long as my man's there, I'm okay. It seemed like pre-program.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: And then Martel, he was just like giddy. He seemed
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: like more like her gay bestie than her partner. Actually,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: it seemed like they had a bunch of conversations and
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: he probably was like, and this one, he liked it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: He sat there and watched her act like this. And
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: he didn't say baby girl. Like, you know, he should
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: have like let her and said, Hey, you know, these
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: people say something. So your girl doesn't look like an idiot.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Because he did not help her. He did her no
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: favors by not putting any guardrails. If I had my
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: partner and we're like, you know, we have our pillow talk.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: We get clunk and talk our shit. When we go
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: in the circles, all right, babe, I know I told
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: you this, but let's just keep it cute for the first.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Let's see what they give first before we go in.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: She went in way too hostile. Now you're at a
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: deficit for the rest of the season. How do you
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: think these people are going to take you? We already
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: know you are a mistress, a willing mistress side chick,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and you come here with that attitude. I think mistresses...
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: And side chicks have gotten way so cocky. There's no shame.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Bring back shame. Because if I came on the show
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: as a mistress, side chick, side bitch with that swoop,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I would not be that arrogant. I get arrogant when
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: my hair is looking good. So I don't get when
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: girls come in there with that attitude and look at
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: a hot mess. She sounded ridiculous. It was, Martel, I
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: don't get it. You did not prep your girl. You
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: know when you give notes, y'all give notes before you
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: go do a scene? Where were the notes given? She
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: should have got some notes. And I don't get what
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: was your smoke with all the people there. Melody wasn't there.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: If anyone, that's who you have your thing with because
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: you know what you did. But what do these people
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: have to do with you? Why are you coming in
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: like that? I didn't understand why she came in so hot. Yes,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: I will be on her neck this season. And I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: really don't give a fuck if she don't like it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Because I don't.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Respect women like that. You know I have very strong
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: feelings about mistresses and side chicks. I do not like them.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I don't like what you're doing to other women. It
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: ain't cute. It ain't cool. And Martel... I really don't
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: like what you're doing.
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: And he's just shameless. And they don't seem like a
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: real couple to me. Their chemistry, where is it? It's
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: so weird. Watching them does not seem like a passionate,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: loving couple. It seems like he's a narcissist, she's his supply,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and she serves a purpose of I make him feel
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: good about himself. I built him up. Where he didn't
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: feel that same way with Melody because she was equally yoked,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: if not more. And I feel like with her, he's
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: running circles. She's like his dumb, slow girlfriend, in my opinion. Allegedly.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: Blue.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: I'm going to try to be nice.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I think she's a bird.
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: I think she's a simple bird with bad edges, no
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: edge control, no self-control, no self-esteem, very pure media literacy.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I think she's performing for Melody, even though Melody's not there.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I think Melody's losing her mind.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: That's for her.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I think she's putting on a Tyler Perry production that
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: nobody bought tickets for. I think it's lame. I think
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: it's whack. I think it's a brave review. take the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: tax write-off on this.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Well, he's clearly not spending money on glam.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Clearly.
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: It's given like Ray J every time I turn the
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: tracks are different.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: The swoop keeps moving.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: The edges keep going different ways.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: Ariane make her man feel like so.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Do you have a glam squad on the show?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: She build her man up to make sure he feel
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: like so.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: For all reality shows, we pay for glam for confessionals only.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Have you guys seen Receipts?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: We pay for glam for confession only, not the verite,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: not the scenes.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: The day-to-day, they don't get, clearly. But there's got to
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: be someone in Huntsville that can lay, like, and do
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: a flat on, a mean flat on.
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: Ah, well, you know.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: And listen, I know we shouldn't be just, like, talking
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: about our looks. If the attitude wasn't so fucked up
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: and stank.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: We wouldn't be having this conversation. But she's the kind
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: of person who needs this, though.
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: Pick me.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: So by definition, a pick-me is a woman who.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Thinks that- What happened to I'm trying to be nice? Exactly, Blue.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Come on over to the dark side.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, that was it. So a pick-me- Oh, it could
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: have gotten way- Are you saying- That's the- tell you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: That was nice.
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: I'm being quiet for a reason.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I will say this.
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: There's a special place in hell for women who take
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: pride in causing harm to other women- and acquiring men
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: as a prize because the irony of her is that's
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: the exact kind.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Of woman who is going to call him a bitch
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: when he chooses somebody else.
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: She's the kind of girl that we were talking about
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: earlier who emasculates men because he's just a means to
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: an end. A pick-me wants to get picked just to
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: show their value. It's a level of insecurity, right? To me,
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: it's the same thing as the bad bitch men, right?
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: They're two sides of the same questionable coin. And what
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: makes me curious is when she served her purpose and
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: her place is no longer in the age bracket that
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: makes her feel fresh and new and he replaces her
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: with somebody who can maybe read, what is she going
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: to do then?
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Because there's nothing sadder than a pick-me who stopped being picked.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Well, what did she do the first time when he
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: picked Sharae over her, Carlos?
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Damn! Okay, see, I was trying to be nice. That's
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: what I wasn't saying.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Well, there we go.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Martel gives bigger, better deal all the time.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: And he's fine as hell. He's a little stupid, but
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: he's fine. So he'll find somebody.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: That's not attractive. Those kind of men are not attractive.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: They look good on paper, but as soon as they talk,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and the way he talks seems so... Like, if you
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: told me, Martel, it was a serial killer one day,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I would be like, oh, okay.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Because the narcissistic personality, I mean, not to diagnose him
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: because I could never, but I'm just saying, like, it's
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: giving narcissists, like, narcissistic abuser.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: The way their relationship looks crazy to me. Like, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: see this ending very badly.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: What got me was the conversation between Martel and his mom,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Miss Marlene, when he said, I know you don't want
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: me to, you know, go through what I went through
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: in my last marriage.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: What did you go through?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: He was an equal?
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: He did it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Like he was the cause for that ending, Carlos.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: So what was he talking about, Carlos? I'm asking you everything.
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: Because he's free falling.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: No, Dustin, don't we have sympathy?
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: Don't we have sympathy for these men who are free falling?
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: They feel so bad. I lived in the shadow of Melody.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I feel so bad. But that conversation is crazy to me.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: You love a bad bitch.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: You love a bad bitch.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: You love a bad bitch.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: You love a bad bitch crying on the couch.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: You know, what was so interesting, and I'm glad you
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: brought that up. All the guys saw the conversation that
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he had with his mother.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I gave you that clip, but
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: what was so interesting is, and again, he's a day
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: one watcher.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Obviously, I've been there day one as well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: What was interesting about this is Martel's mother loved Melody.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: Yes, she did.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I watched the first season.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: And referred to her as her daughter. And will literally
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: get on Martel's tail.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: And seem like, you done, right? You done messed your family.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: You so stupid. Like, what are you doing? Mama knows best.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: And they had great conversations.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: The first season, her and Melody had great conversations.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I think what's happening is when it comes to Martel's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: conversation with his mom... Look, I think he's trying to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: rationalize what happened and why this is his life now, right?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: In terms of.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I think in his mind, he's trying to rationalize.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And I think not knowing that, obviously, the fans have
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: seen that Know Your Mother.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: really did love this woman.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And yes, there wasn't time that Melody.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: And his mom were not on good terms, right?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people were surprised by that conversation.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Were you guys surprised that there was this big thing
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: at the table about best friend?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: No, because that's what narcissists do. He had every chance
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: to elevate her in that moment, to make people take
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: her seriously. And when asked who was his best friend,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: he could have given her an out and saved her
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: and said, She is. So you crashed your whole marriage
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: and changed your whole life, pissed off your mama for
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: a girl you can't even sit there and call your
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: best friend? And you said, Fletcher, he disrespected her so
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: many times with his little mannerisms and little things. He
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: was with the shits. He liked that messy shit. He
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: had glee in his eyes when that was happening. I'll
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: be damned if my man, how many years have they
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: been together?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: We learned that, and I want to make sure I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: got this right.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Together without other people involved.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been together since she was 23 years old.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you've been with me for 13 years and
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: you can't say at a table of people where you
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: know I'm walking to a hostile environment possibly, you can't
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: even give me that where you're like and elevate me
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: and say, she's my best friend. And make it at
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: least be understandable why you would risk it all for
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: this woman.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: And if he kept saying that the party was to
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: celebrate him getting his builder's license and his real estate
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: license or whatever he got, you know, toddler making a
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: bed in the morning, right?
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: But here's the thing.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: So we celebrated, but then he says, and this party
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: is really to introduce Ariane.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: When he was talking to Ms.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Marlene, he said this party is really to introduce Ariane
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: to the people. We didn't see it on screen, but
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: was there a moment where he came in and addressed
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: the table and said, hey, you guys, this is Ariane?
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Because in my mind, right, if this dinner is an introduction,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: a formal introduction, there should be a conversation with a
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: nod to Ariane. The elephant in the room, first of all,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: you have to neutralize that, right? There was just no
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: leadership exhibited by Martel whatsoever.
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: In that scene.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: He did not come in and say, hey, you guys,
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: this is my woman. I'm going to take care of her.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: I want y'all to see her. I know that, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: there's been a lot of stuff happening here, but I
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: want y'all to.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: Know I love her. I honor her. I want y'all
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: to respect her.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: He was there for the mess.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: He sat down at the table giddy and laughing and
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: shit and never.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: She was getting up.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: She got that hat, put that sticker on that hat
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: and gave it to Martell.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: The construction hat.
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: A sticker.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: He seemed like an unseasoned reality star in that moment
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: where he didn't command the room. I would be very
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: nervous to be with a man that led like that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: That's how I get introduced. I met the men, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I haven't met the wives, which you know it's going
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to always be difficult meeting the wives because they're going
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: to come from a place of Do I need to
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: keep my eye on you? You're a willing side chick.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know with all these
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: eyeballs that were going to be on you, this is
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: the biggest scandal of the show, right?
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: It was.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: To handle it the way he did, it showed zero leadership.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: She's a bird because she didn't get mad enough for me.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I didn't think she got mad. I think she was
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: just still so happy that, well, at least I'm at
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: dinner with everybody.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I'm on the show.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: And what about the shit she said about Maurice and
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Martel and them and bringing that woman in that interview?
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: What?
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: I just, it's a lot that needs to be discussed, Carlos.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: He makes me nervous.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: No, and it is.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And that's, you know, listen, it's episode two. And what
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I will say is, yes, if you are, and it's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: funny because I was telling you guys before we started
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: filming that, I've been getting so many phone calls from
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: people who were day one watchers.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I kind of fell off and was whatever. They all saying,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I'm back now. They back.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: They back, Carlos.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hi.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I have a nice thing to say about her.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I found something nice. I was thinking this entire time.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: What was it?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: She's alive.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: No, no, I found something nice.
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: Every show, when it needs to be just, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: zhuzhed up a little bit, and Carlos knows this as
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: a producer, needs a villain that people can all come
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: together to hate.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: And I think she has, I'm trying to.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Give you credit, Kurt.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: That's nice.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: No, no. Right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: No, it was great casting because it's almost like sometimes- Well.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Martel did get the casting. Yeah, so I'm like, I didn't-
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: And I'm glad you brought that up. He did the
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: casting with his deke.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Right, with the deke. And that was a deal.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, and I've said this on Tamron Hall's show,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: thanks for all who watched.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Listen, I literally was.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: The one person- In the beginning, that said, it went
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: against all of my rules of being a reality producer, right?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I said to Melody, as long as you're on this show,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Not bring her on.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Because I got a phone call from them. Are you
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: bringing her on the show? I said, if y'all want
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: her on, yes.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: We don't.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Then she won't be here. I respect y'all enough, right?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: The only reason why she's on, because I know people
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: are talking about it again. This is Martel's reality. I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: do want people to be mindful of this isn't like
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a woman he slept with one, two, three, five times.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: And.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and Melody did not like this one person. And then
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: 10 years later, we brought her on.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Right, right.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But gotcha, gotcha.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Like, this is a woman that, and listen, this is,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and again, if you've been watching the show, right, Dustin?
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: This is, unfortunately, I don't, listen, I don't, whatever, how
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: you want to call it?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: A mistress.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: This was, Coleslaw, with his own words, he even called
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: her a peasant.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: He did.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: But this is the one woman he had an affair with. Like,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: it was just her.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: And they have a baby together. So, that's why she's
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: on because Melody is off the show. She's been off
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: her for two years. This is his reality. And look,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me is how she... Like,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Dustin's saying... When are we going to have the conversation
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: about you alleging that Maurice and Marcel had linebackers?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: That is coming. I'm surprised at Kimmy and Tisha.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: I didn't want to interrupt. No, go ahead.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Because I definitely don't want to interrupt you. But I'm
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: surprised at Kimmy and Tisha. Because the minute I saw it,
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: I would have lost all sense of decorum. The minute
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: I saw her walk in, I would have put my
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: fork down and got to business. So what's up with
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: that shit you was talking on YouTube? You said my
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: man was fucking such and such.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: What's up now? Because you here.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: You wanted to be here. I would have gave you
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: your scene that day.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, she's a great piñata apparently.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I would have gave you your scene that day because
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it's true.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Much. It is too much.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: It's been too much.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And listen, it's one thing because I've seen all the episodes.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because I get to talk to.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: My producers about it. But I love to talk about
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: it because I will say this. When I got that scene, I, too.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Was surprised at how stoic.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Everyone seemed to be.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: They were stunned.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Because I think, to your point, and I'm just being
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: very honest.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Did they not know?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: No, they knew. They knew. Oh, no, they knew. They knew,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: they knew, they knew, they knew. They definitely knew.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And I will say this. My reaction, your reaction, and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming y'all's too... The beautiful thing about this cast
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and this show is that also comes up in conversation.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Like the reception Arianne received.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: This upcoming episode that's airing Saturday, Arianne.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: For the very first.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Time is going to tell her side of how the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: affair happened.
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: Is she sympathetic?
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Does she evolve?
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: Is she literate?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give anything away.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: But what I will say is you are going to
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: hear from her POV.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: For the very first time. The beginning of what happened.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: And I literally can't wait for y'all to talk about this.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Does the conversation happen in the apartment she has where
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: she doesn't live with a man she's been with for
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: 13 years and she has a baby with? Which is
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: crazy to me that... He put her in such a
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: position to never be respected. You sat there. You called
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: this woman coleslaw, a side, a peasant. You let her
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: go at the house looking like that. You didn't say
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: she was your best friend. And you don't even live
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: with her. And you keep making excuses and moving the
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: goalposts like, well, you know, I'm not ready for that,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: but you're ready to have a baby with this woman.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: It's just crazy. He has not set her up to
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: win at all. So that tells me he doesn't have
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: any respect for her either. He doesn't.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: One word, Sharae. How did Sharae get involved in this?
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: Because Sharae and Martell used to date.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: I remember.
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: But how did Sharae fit into this love story of
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: my man, my man, my man, my man that she's
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: trying to sell us?
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Your man and Sharae.
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: So she's always been in second or third position. She
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: might be fourth.
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: Look, we don't know what the man's been caught doing.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: And their son was born when he was dating Sharae
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: in public. Are you serious? Over on Sharae's show. That's crazy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: So there was like maximum exposure, which to me reflects
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: like you're not that important to him.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: That's not a prize.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: That is not a prize.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: He didn't care that there was, it looked like, I mean,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: it looked like it was staged photos. It looked like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So if you have someone
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: that you really care about, you're a little bit more
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: careful about, you know, who you're seeing photographed with, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: would think. No, he was campaigning. That's what it looked
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: like to me.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: This makes me sad. I still think she's a great villain.
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: I still say my one positive comment is she's a
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: great villain.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: That's the nicest I can get, because I'm sorry.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: No, listen. You're not giving us much to worry about.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I don't completely switch off today.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You know, listen, this is a very, listen, this is
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: a very polarizing situation, which is why, listen, when it
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: comes to the good or the bad, I understand it all.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we are just following
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Martel's reality, and that's just what it is.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And look, You are going.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: To see a lot of what Dustin is hoping to get.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: It's polarizing. I want to say why that's important to me, right?
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: Because I'm not.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: Vilifying her, right, for being an adulteress or being complicit
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: in adultery, right?
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: I'm not vilifying her for that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: Even though that doesn't sit well with me, people make
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: that mistake every single day. And I don't think it's
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: fair to judge people based on that, right? It's everything else.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: It's the commentary. It's the actions. It's the things that
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: she said about people. It's all that stuff that together
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: makes me frame her.
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? In a certain way. It's
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: not just that she.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: It's her character, not just a mistake.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: It's her actual character.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I'm judging her and I feel like I'll be damned
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: if I am a side chick and then go on
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the show that my man, my man, my man started
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: with his wife. And sit there and act so proud.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: And act proud. I would feel so uncomfortable.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: She's a cat peeing all over Melody's house.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: That's what she feels like. It felt like a cat
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: walking around your house just peeing in the corners.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And the piss stinks.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the piss smells bad.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: All those smirks thought she was getting one over Melody.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Melody don't give a damn about him anymore.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: She's a peeing ass cat.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: She does not give a damn about him anymore.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: From a bird to a cat. She's involved in this conversation.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Nothing stinks more than cat piss.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: It stays, too.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: It lingers.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: I remember one time my friend's cat had peed in
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: the litter box, and I thought her breath was stinking.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: But you said he don't have what I got? I
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: was like, what did you eat?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, what did you eat?
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: It smelled like asparagus.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: It smelled like asparagus.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh. I thought her breath was stinking.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I came with a story.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Whatever a cat pees on, throw it away.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Martel, guys, go in the trash.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm sorry.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Throw it away.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: She peed all over him. So, Rae Draws.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Poor Carlos.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Let us know in the comments. This is going to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: be a.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Your phone better be on Do Not Disturb.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a very interesting season.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: She's not going to like me this season. This will
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: not feel good.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Girl, she don't even like herself.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: You fine. It's going to be a very interesting season.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Not only a love and marriage husband, but also a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: mother not alive.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Humble yourself.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: But listen, Raindrops, let us know in the comments your thoughts.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Love you all. Give it up for Blue, Claudia, and Dustin.
• 35:14
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• 35:19
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• 35:22
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• 35:24
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• 35:27
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• 35:29
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