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S4 #2 Bachelors on Bachelor · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's really good to be in studio. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: this is the Ben and Ashley I Almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hey everybody, I'm Ben, oh and I'm Nicky. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing this like this. Um. Nick Viole is here today.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley is out of the country and so we thought
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  Speaker 1: we would bring back one of our favorite and most
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  Speaker 1: special guest, the former Bachelor himself. Welcome to the podcast, Nick,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for having Ben. Are you the most recent bachelor
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  Speaker 1: other than Ari? Yes? Oh? Do we have the most
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  Speaker 1: recent bachelor and the one before? Are you the one before?
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  Speaker 1: I am? Yeah. This is a big deal, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: So we have the two most recent bachelors talking about
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  Speaker 1: the new one. You are nothing if not observing. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you playing that or something. Um. Anyways, immediately
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  Speaker 1: feel used. Wait before you guys start talking about everything,
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  Speaker 1: I have some breaking news. I'd love to hear this.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to read from US magazines End of
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  Speaker 1: the Year issue some things that were the most googled in.
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  Speaker 1: The most googled person Matt Lower, The most googled musician
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  Speaker 1: Lincoln Park That's sad. The most googled wedding Pippa Middleton,
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  Speaker 1: and James Matthews and the most googled breakup, Ben Higgins
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  Speaker 1: and Lauren Bushnell. Way to go, congratulations, I was really
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  Speaker 1: excited for this list. How is that possible? What do
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  Speaker 1: you mean? How is that possible? How is that possible
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  Speaker 1: that like more people googled you than Chris Pratt and
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  Speaker 1: Anna Ferris or Anna Anna whatever her name is, Josh
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  Speaker 1: de mel and Fergie. Let's know what you're saying right now?
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  Speaker 1: Besides all yeah, besides all of variables that now my
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  Speaker 1: breakup is is the most googled You're rubbing in by
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  Speaker 1: going how I don't get it? I mean, I actually
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  Speaker 1: I am like shocked, amy stop. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be mean, like I'm proud of you. Well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want this is doing No, we're good people, truly believed
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  Speaker 1: in your relationship. I believe that. Unfortunately that I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to say. I want to know what you're
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  Speaker 1: feeling now that I've told you you're the most googled breakup.
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  Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? Sad? Happy? I don't know, um, confused?
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  Speaker 1: It's like a minor win in your failed relationship. There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing about this. It's uh, it's really sad. It's like
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  Speaker 1: the Ultimate Participation Award. Hey, you tried really hard, really hard,
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  Speaker 1: and as a result we cared. Yeah, but hey listen,
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  Speaker 1: you know like people cared that you lost all right,
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, unlike my relationship, apparently people just went on
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  Speaker 1: with their day. It's like, well, you know, yeah, Nick,
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  Speaker 1: do you think you'd feel better if you were the
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  Speaker 1: most google I'm comfortable with letting Ben have this award.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's in Prince I printed it magazine. I
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  Speaker 1: can see the picture, highest grossing film, Beauty and the beast,
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  Speaker 1: most stream song, Shape of You, most YouTube song, Desposito,
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  Speaker 1: most googled breakup, Ben Higgins. It's really nice to be
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  Speaker 1: back in studio with you all um. I'm so happily
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  Speaker 1: ever after your question, absolutely not. You know, there's some
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  Speaker 1: things in life that, uh, you would rather just never
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  Speaker 1: have happened. And I honestly, I never thought I'd had
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  Speaker 1: my own podcast. I never thought I'd be the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: I never thought I'd fall in love on the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: I never thought we would be breaking up from the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: And I never thought people would care enough to actually
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  Speaker 1: google about the breakup. And what are they googling? Like
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  Speaker 1: if we broke up, I guess they google Ben at
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  Speaker 1: Lauren breakup. So, Ben, do you think people are devastated
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  Speaker 1: by the breakup or basking in your pain? Yeah? Oh um.
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  Speaker 1: As a victim, I feel like people bask in my pain. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But I really do believe that people watch this show,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe just like you and Vanessa, people believed
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  Speaker 1: in it. They want to believe in it. Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: like to wait just for the breakup. Well, you're also
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  Speaker 1: the one that brought up that I was the most
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  Speaker 1: google breakup. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, yeah, finally
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  Speaker 1: we last. Yeah. I think people care, but I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people were that devastated when when it's
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  Speaker 1: people break up from bach I think at this point
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  Speaker 1: it's almost expected. Do you think there was a Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: breakup where people were devastated? Ben and Lauren breaking up? People, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're pretty upset. It's got to be that because otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think people must google it because they
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  Speaker 1: want to know what happened. How could this possibly have happened?
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  Speaker 1: I need to google it and find out. And again
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  Speaker 1: I posted like another relationship is like you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was I've actually I've been devastated with a Bachelor breakup. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember back in the day watching Um Desrah and
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  Speaker 1: Rooks Desiree real devastated. Then they didn't even end up together.
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  Speaker 1: But when that moment happened on the show when he said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm leaving, I remember feeling for her at the time
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  Speaker 1: and going, this is sad because she's really into him.
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  Speaker 1: But there's always a success story at the end, and
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  Speaker 1: the success stories that she is happily married today. What
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  Speaker 1: a kid to the dude from the show. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what's your happy ending going to be. We're still looking
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  Speaker 1: right after this podcast, Wait, am breaking news. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: ask Ben about Winter Games. You're going back. What were
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  Speaker 1: you thinking? Well, I was looking for my happily ever
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  Speaker 1: after Winter Games? Everybody, Yeah, can you tell us what
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  Speaker 1: it is to come Bachelor Nation? So Winter Games is
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  Speaker 1: really just a fun kind of flighthearted show. Uh that
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  Speaker 1: will be filling in for the weeks during the Olympics,
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  Speaker 1: so the Bachelor will actually take a pause, Winter Games
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  Speaker 1: will step in and fill that time slot, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just it really was a really fun experience with obviously
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  Speaker 1: the typical bachelor drama. Are people looking for love. People
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  Speaker 1: are looking for love, they're competing in wintry sports. Um,
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  Speaker 1: people are going on dates. Uh, there's tears, there's emotion,
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  Speaker 1: there's everything you would expect from a Bachelor show. Ashley
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  Speaker 1: are other co hosts. That's typically here. And I decided
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  Speaker 1: to do it because we wanted to, you know, take this,
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  Speaker 1: take that next step and have fun with it and
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  Speaker 1: see what it was. I'm glad we did it. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like you're falling in love. Are you potentially in love?
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  Speaker 1: You have to watch it sound like you're falling in
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  Speaker 1: love with Ashley? Am I really? I didn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: at all. Please don't take it that I didn't take
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  Speaker 1: it that way. Um, but no, I did do it.
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  Speaker 1: Now so you can go out to the Bachelor and
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  Speaker 1: look at the release of the cast members. My picture
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  Speaker 1: you should look up in close. I had my flight
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  Speaker 1: down in it. Yeah, my flies down in my Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: in true boy scout fashion. Ben is always prepared for
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  Speaker 1: falling in love. Yes, how do we find picture? I
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  Speaker 1: would want this no other way go. I don't go
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  Speaker 1: out to Twitter the Bachelor of Twitter. Go to Mike
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  Speaker 1: Flice's Twitter. I think he linked it. Um, you can
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  Speaker 1: find it. I've I've now found it and it's been
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  Speaker 1: sent to me a couple of times. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: is my relationship with the show now, where they care
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  Speaker 1: so little about how I look that they're just like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, there's some great pictures we have have
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  Speaker 1: been Let's pick the one when it's flies down. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming if I was down the entire photo shoot,
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to you being like halfway from the shoot
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  Speaker 1: being like, you know what, I'm just saying to breathe,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, uh yeah, no, it was down
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  Speaker 1: the whole entire time. Nobody really wanted to tell me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm really excited this photo will now represent me
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  Speaker 1: for the next I don't know month of my life.
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  Speaker 1: The most Google old picture. I can see the names,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll read who's on the show, but I see
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  Speaker 1: no fly down picture, so it says the men from
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  Speaker 1: the United States of America are Ben You, Dean, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Bigger. I'm assuming Jamie. Who's Jamie? Um? Oh, Jamie's
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  Speaker 1: from last season of The Bachelor. He was he was
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  Speaker 1: gone very early. He had his famous statement at the
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  Speaker 1: very first episode was if if Rachel isn't into a
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  Speaker 1: guy with perfect facial features and a perfect wardrobe. She
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  Speaker 1: won't be in the me so you can lose. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's actually he was. He was darling him, Josiah Luke,
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  Speaker 1: Luke Pell. We like Luke Michael. We love Luke Michael.
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  Speaker 1: I know that dude Gara below or something. Why are
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  Speaker 1: there only three girls from representing America? Ari had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of the girls from his season that have not
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  Speaker 1: been it. Okay, so it's Ashley, I our very own Claire,
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  Speaker 1: crazy Claire from Sacramento, She's crazy, keep going, and Leslie
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  Speaker 1: from Shawn Lowe's season, and then apparently a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: international people that won't mean anything that that was no there.
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  Speaker 1: That was an exciting part of the show and really
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  Speaker 1: a reason why I want to do it too, was
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  Speaker 1: we didn't know a lot of the people that were
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  Speaker 1: going on. They were from all over the world. There
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  Speaker 1: are people from Japan and China and New Zealand and
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  Speaker 1: Russia and Germany and I'm forgetting Australia. It was a
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  Speaker 1: really great mix of people that caused for a really
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  Speaker 1: fun show. I think the viewer is gonna watch. I know,
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  Speaker 1: being a part of it for me was fun. I
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  Speaker 1: think the viewer is gonna have fun with as well,
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  Speaker 1: So make sure to tune in to Bachelorard games. I
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  Speaker 1: will be there, um with my flight up for for
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  Speaker 1: most of the season. Hey, tonight, we uh got to
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  Speaker 1: witness the second episode of ri E season and and
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  Speaker 1: so far, I'm having a hard time diving in um
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  Speaker 1: emotionally to this season. Nick, do you agree? Well? I
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  Speaker 1: never expected to dive in emotion emotionally to it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: It's a you know, I thought this episode they really
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  Speaker 1: made you wait a long time for some good TV.
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  Speaker 1: Is it weird how they started with two one on
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  Speaker 1: ones before the group? Did? I agree? So let's talk
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  Speaker 1: we did start with two one on one. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: with the first. Let's break it down a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Coming from a bachelor perspective that has recently done the show,
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  Speaker 1: what did you think of Becca and Ari's connection. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's the first one on one, so it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: hard to tell. UM. I will say the two one
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  Speaker 1: on one dates were in terms of early dates, we're
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  Speaker 1: both um, I think meaningful dates or some something to
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  Speaker 1: kind of like take away in terms of they weren't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily throw away dates. I think some you know, some
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  Speaker 1: dates are always better than others. And in Batchel world,
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  Speaker 1: and I think as the lead, UM, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: some sort of prioritizing of like who gets certain dates
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  Speaker 1: that that happens, um, And so these particular dates, I
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  Speaker 1: think we're dates that UM. I think Ari assumed or
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  Speaker 1: knew that both of the women would really like and
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you for different reasons. You know, Becca had the
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  Speaker 1: whole like she was wine and nine and very kind
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  Speaker 1: of pretty womanesque's got the key but all and things
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  Speaker 1: like that, and she you know, so there was a
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  Speaker 1: day about really making her feel special. I think that
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  Speaker 1: So that's telling. And they seem to really like each other, UM,
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  Speaker 1: and that's that's what I witnessed was I remember my
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  Speaker 1: first one on one date with Kayla, and it really
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  Speaker 1: started the relationship with Kaylin. She ended up going to
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  Speaker 1: the final three because of that. Really that first date
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  Speaker 1: when I got to sit down with her and I
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  Speaker 1: realized for the first time in the show, Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually gonna be really into somebody tonight when when we
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  Speaker 1: watched Aris episode, I witnessed Becca and Ari having a
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  Speaker 1: connection that just seemed more than what he has with most.
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  Speaker 1: It was more natural. I did not find her annoying
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  Speaker 1: and I did not find them awkward. Well, we really
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  Speaker 1: don't know yet, right because we haven't really seen him.
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  Speaker 1: That was the first date, Okay, so I mean, but
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  Speaker 1: I will say the relationship seemed genuine, and he seemed
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  Speaker 1: genuinely interested in her. And you know, Minnesota girl, she's Midwest.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she seems very normal. You don't get the
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  Speaker 1: sense that there's gonna be a lot of drama with her.
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  Speaker 1: Um So, I think it's probably a relationship that's one
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  Speaker 1: to watch. But your perspective, and I guess my perspective too,
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  Speaker 1: is different because you can watch this and be you
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  Speaker 1: can see past some of the stuff that typically the
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  Speaker 1: normal viewer can't. So you're watching this year's you're looking
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  Speaker 1: for cues of is this real or is it not?
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  Speaker 1: Is already putting on his game face or is he not?
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  Speaker 1: And from my perspective, I felt like watching that first
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  Speaker 1: one on one day, to me, it seemed like there
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  Speaker 1: was something more like she she's gonna be around a while. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely, I think, yeah, I think it's a relationship
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  Speaker 1: we should watch. I think, like I agree with you,
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  Speaker 1: like little things like the music they chose to play
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  Speaker 1: and things like that, you know, during during their date, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know it was they Definitely, I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: an interesting moment to um in terms of they they
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  Speaker 1: aired one of the ladies, um, I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: it was, when are picked back up for the date
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  Speaker 1: of saying they look so cute together. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a really telling moment of the show, like it's
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  Speaker 1: letting you know that even some of the other women
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  Speaker 1: think they look like a good couple. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that's an interesting point to watch. So I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, if I had to guess she'll
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  Speaker 1: be around for a while, um, because I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a telling little set up by the show. I
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  Speaker 1: think there was, I was gonna say the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was another moment in the episode where
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  Speaker 1: somebody said they're gonna get married. I think Bibiana might
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  Speaker 1: have been the one that when at some point she
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  Speaker 1: looked at Becca and Ari and said they're going to
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  Speaker 1: get married. I thought that was really sweet. It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a kind gesture on Biby honest part, but
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  Speaker 1: also a little odd that other women are seeing something
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  Speaker 1: there so early on. It almost reminded me of Sean
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  Speaker 1: and Caitlin from the first night on. The guys were
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  Speaker 1: saying this that relationship is different than any of ours,
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  Speaker 1: and we can feel it, we can since it, we
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  Speaker 1: can see it. We're gonna be around because we don't
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  Speaker 1: know for certain, but we have a pretty good idea
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  Speaker 1: that something special exists until you stepped in. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: somethings gonna show week for this season. Um yeah no.
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  Speaker 1: And also keep in mind she had she had the
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  Speaker 1: first one on one, so there's a good chance like
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  Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks we won't see much
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  Speaker 1: of Becca, like she'll pop in, but like you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's not gonna have a one on one day for
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  Speaker 1: a while, So there's that I mean, she'll obviously be
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  Speaker 1: on group dates, and I would expect her to probably
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  Speaker 1: get a group date Rose at some point. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but we won't. So I think it was telling that
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  Speaker 1: the show, because it was an early date. Um, they
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  Speaker 1: definitely went out of their way to let you know
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  Speaker 1: that this relationship was was meaningful. Um. And then you
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  Speaker 1: had with the second one on one day. What was
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  Speaker 1: that young lady's name? Yeah, the second one on one day, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: was with Crystal. Crystal and Ari flew to Scottsdale to
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: visit his hometown to to meet his parents. Which I
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  Speaker 1: thought was a huge step and and kind of uh
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  Speaker 1: different for the show to do so early. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they mixed it up, but it was. It's
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  Speaker 1: interesting about that data is because you look at the
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  Speaker 1: data itself and it would seem incredibly meaningful. You know,
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  Speaker 1: hometown where he lives, meet the family, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: so you immediately assume that even if you're her and
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  Speaker 1: as a viewer like this already really likes this girl,
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  Speaker 1: which is entirely true. It's so early on, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really know any of these women at all. Um, so
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  Speaker 1: he's basing early dates off of night one impressions. Um,
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  Speaker 1: only to kind of find out as a viewer that
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  Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't have a close relationship with her family,
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  Speaker 1: so like, you know, that's not a coincidence that she
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  Speaker 1: gets to go and meet his family and find out
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  Speaker 1: how close he is, only to have to like talk
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  Speaker 1: about how she's not close with hers. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: that lost a little in terms of what does that
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: mean for those two in their relationship. Like I was like, okay,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, and it makes less sense about the
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: relationship and more maybe about a storyline. And then obviously
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: she proceeded to be pretty good TV. At the cocktail party,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: she was still weird. She has the ultimate um what
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: what does Howard Stern call it? Um vocal fry? Yeah? Yeah,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it's not even cute, Like first it's like sounds saltry.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: It's like one of those people's voices were at first
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: like oh, this is really attractive, and then then like no, no,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: minutes later just like oh you're talking not that not
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: a shot that that was attractive. That I think that's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: where I want to get into here, So let's break
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: down that it was. It was fun to watch because
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I want to know what the cocktail party. I hope
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: she sticks around Ben at the cocktail party, when she
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: was like, I missed you. Would you have liked that? No? No,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, so we have Crystal
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: here who goes on this one on one. We all
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like her. After the one on one, I think,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: all of a, Okay, there's something there. She opened up.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: She shared, she was vulnerable, but I even wrote in
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: my notes there's something more here. At that moment, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: was like, this is she isn't this easy. She's more complicated,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: which complicated and it could be a good thing, but
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: there's more to her. Yeah, she there was something. And
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: then we get to the cocktail party and we start
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to see something thing. We actually saw it beforehand, if
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you remember, right when she sat down with the women
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: in the house and they were asking her about the date.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And I know her intention was to not make them jealous,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to not overstep her bounds by sharing too much. But
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: as a result of not sharing too much, she came
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: off very distant and a little bit bitchy. M Am
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I wrong, of course, she comes off as total bitchy,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: which is good to good TV. I mean, I actually
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: it's funny launching this show how long has the show
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: been on? But we get this is the twenty second
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: season the Bachelor. We have how many season in the Batan.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm almost like impressed, Like how do you
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: feel like they still come on? And and I don't
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: know if it's a producer thing or the people on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this show, they're like there's still like unapologetically and like
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate to a certain extent. I mean, I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I wasn't that assertive with my time and for all
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the for all the criticism if I got early on
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: in annual season, I really didn't interrupt people, especially that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: early on, but like I was a sort of with
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like making going on on the way to make time
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and do little things. But it just kind of amazing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So that brings me to a question that I'm so
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: interested in for the two of you. So, Ben, when
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you were the Bachelor and all these girls are like
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I need my time with Ben, I need my time
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: with Ben, do you feel obligated that everyone get time
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: or do you feel like I'm just gonna talk to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the girls. I really am interested in, why waste my
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: time with Sally when I'm never gonna early on you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: early on the first few weeks, I definitely wanted everybody
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to get time because I didn't know anybody, and I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: knew that that was my opportunity to get to know them.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: As I got to know some people, then the time
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't as as needed because either A I knew they
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: were probably going home that night, and so I want
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to invest into the people that I knew I was
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: going to be having a long lasting relationship with, or
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: at least another week long relationship with um. But and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: so I think that's the transition right now are probably
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: feels pulled in the thousand directions. Here's the one thing
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I always queued up on so watching christ season and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: watch Andy season, people react certain ways to specific situations
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you have. You always have your hey I need more time,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: girl or guy, Hey i'm gonna pull him first, girl
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: or guy. You always have those playing out. Typically those
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: aren't the people that you're gonna end up with, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: so I watched for that. So this would have been
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: my thing. I don't know, Nick, do you agree or
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: disagree week one or week two? If somebody's coming in
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and interrupting me three different times in three different conversations,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: there's a queue or there's there's a sign that would
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: go off in my head that would go I need
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to look farther into this person. There's something off, yes,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and I mean to a certain degree one. I mean yeah,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: like christ is not gonna win. I mean I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that's clear. Um, I mean yeah. I mean I don't
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: know if that means like, I don't think her interrupting
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: makes an immediate sign that she's like a crazy bad person.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I mean she might be slightly confused about their front.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But listen here the role of the
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: why would somebody not not at all? Let's we're not
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: going into If she's about she's probably a great person.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: But why the people that do that? Why are they
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: doing that? Where do you think that comes from? And
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that they can find somebody to do that every year
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: because you know what, Listen, everyone wants to get time
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and so coup and like not to give trade tickets.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: The role is to think you would agree with this.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: The role of any lead, especially early on, is to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: allow the cast people to be themselves, so which is
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: why you often don't see and the leads often get
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: criticized for you don't see leads shutting people down. You
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: if someone's gonna interrupt three times, you usually always see
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the lead let it happen. And there's a reason why
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: because like people like to hate on it, but they
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: also love watching it. So like you just kind of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: let people and and truthfully, you know, in in all sincerity,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it does allow the lead to kind of get a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: feel for what's going on, so you don't try to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: take over too much. And you know, like producers let
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: women do their thing. But there if if someone says
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I want to see Ari again, and they've already talked
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to him twice, they'll probably make it easy for them
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to find our How long are those little talks It depends.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It could be thirty seconds, it could be ten minutes. Yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: it just matters kind of where it's going and how
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: how beneficial it is. I mean, that's that's it, Nick,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It's the difficult situation. And as Amy was getting to,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: these talks can often often be really short or really long.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You don't as the lead, you don't know how this
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: is going to play out, you don't know what it's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: gonna look like. You want to give everybody their opportunity.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you before we keep breaking down
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: this episode what was in week two? From one week
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: one to four, what was your most difficult experience being
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the bachelor? What was the situation that you didn't know
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: how to handle it? Well, I mean, I don't know
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: if there's a situation I didn't know how to handle.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I think the most difficult thing about being the Bachelor
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: early on, it's just exhausting. I mean there's so many
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: women that you really want to try to get to know, Like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: you know, already had a gre update here was fifteen women.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So that's fifteen conversations. And assuming you only talked to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: one person once, I mean, so he probably had twenty
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: little conversations. It's it's basically another night one. It's tiring,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: itause exhausting. You have a sincere you have a sincere
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: effort to try to get to know these women, and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it's just exhausting. And so you know, for me, obviously
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it was it was the Karin Show early on of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: her wanting to get time and again, like it wasn't
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to handle the situation. It
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: was me letting Karinn be Karin, and then the fear
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, how how long can I let
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: this go on? Without really pissing off the other women's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it's a cat and mouse game. It's like it definitely
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a juggling act. Is a complete juggling act. I think
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you used the right word there. It's exhausting. Uh And
• 24:44
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• 25:38
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• 26:16
  Speaker 1: we gotta get to I think one of the best
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: scenes ever in The Bachelor, one of the best dates,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Demolition Derby. That was pretty cool, amazing. I cannot believe
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they were able to do that. Yeah, I was honestly
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: watching thinking a couple of things. One, it's just like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: my dates were fine, there were, especially early on, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like just early on, it's like hard to like, you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: like Ari's first group date, he's Demolition Derby. He gets
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to drive around and you can decorate these cars for
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: how do they find these cars that they just destroy?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I had to do a wedding photo shoot where like
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I had to change into like twenty ridiculous freaking office
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: dressed up is like Adam and Eve and like half naked.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: It was just like exhausting. And then like, yeah it
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was Ori is just like driving around in cars, so
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: he's definitely that was a cool date. I mean, um,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I had some cool dates but whatever. Um, but yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that was that. When then I had the track date
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: where I'm just like running around. I didn't get to me.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Carl Lewis, that was really cool. Um, but yeah, I
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I thought that was. I feel a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: little bad for myself watching this episode. Now. I was like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: he pulls up in a motorcycle. I pull up in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a in a Volva. I had this, I had this
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: car convertible. Yeah different, I had this like a little
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: tiny audio which wasn't very masculine at all. You know
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that says about me? Yeah, it really went with all
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: his blue eyes and cloud puffy lips. Yeah, I mean
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: they're really playing this guy up. And then he could
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: have a demolition derby. I gotta break down and saying, okay,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so so far. We talked about Becca. She was lovely.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: There's something more there than what you that any of
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the viewer actually knows. I think this she's gonna be
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: around about. We talked about Crystal on her one on
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: one date, really great one on one day. I feel
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: like she's playing into the role of hey, I need
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: more time, and she's overconfident in their relationship and as
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a result, that's going to cause some problems I think,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: for her later. And now we're getting into the not
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: for the viewers. That's why we watch right now. We
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: watched A Fine Love and Ari goes on gets into
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a car something he does love and Analyze does not
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: love it. She was the mass girl night one. She
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: has a breakdown because she has a terror of bumper cars.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Before we get into this, I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: want to be very clear. I don't want to judge
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: her for her fear. I am so scared of clowns,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: like so unbelievably scared of clowns. I know people that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: are scared of dark spaces that are adults. I know
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: people that are definitely scared of spiders. Technology. There are
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: some weird fears out there. So let's set the record
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: straight as we get to talk here. We're not saying
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: she's wrong for her fear. Well, I asked her about it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: What did she say? I met her, so we ked
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: about it last week that I hung out with her.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Can we have her as a guest? I think once
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: she doesn't marry Ari or does or does I would
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I would love to ask some questions. Watching here's what
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: she told me. She had gone to do bumper cars
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: with her friends, and I guess they were mean to her.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? I believe? And when she says friends,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: how old is she? I think nine? Maybe let me
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: text her. Let me text her and find out how
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: old she was. But I think it triggered her or something.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: She was having these like flashbacks stuff when like kids
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: were mean to her and bumping into her or something.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It was just like watching it, she's like she gets
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: really emotional. I'm like, oh, what happened? And I'm like
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: feeling really really bad. And then like I thought, maybe
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: she like got ran over or like there were some
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: serious injuries. And then she just basically described your like
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: very typical bumper car experience where people were bumping into
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you and ganging up on you, which is what like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: what happens. Anyone who's ever done pepper cars has had
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the same experience. And then she's just the way she
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: tells the story, it was just like it would be
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the same as someone's like, you know, I just I'm
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: terrified of crossing the street because this is one time
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I crossed the street. In the middle of me crossing
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the street, it said don't walk, and I didn't know
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: what to do, and so I froze and all these
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: cars came and it was just like terrifying. So I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: swear to God, I haven't crossed the street since you're right,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, so my seven it was the most unrelatable,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: like devastating story. Well, and it was hyped up. So
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I was watching tonight and she's like crying, like you said,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I thought, I think it's gonna be like, oh, she's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: been in a major car wreck. A family's member been
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: in a major car wrec this is gonna be really hard.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: The poor girl should not do this because it's triggering something.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: But I'll be when she had an incident at the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: County Fair, when when she announced her terror because of
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: my evilness, I laughed, Yeah, and then and I'm sorry,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and at least I'm sure you're I'm sure she's fine.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Who was there who called her out that she was
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm confused, and the girl was like, I'm
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: gonna ram right into I mean, the girls did not
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: take this series like they were like, yeah, I'm gonna
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: make her life worse because she's now announced her fear.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: But she was scared. She was crying. It was crying.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I think she was just having a meltdown. I wouldn't
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: have done it if I was on the show, which
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I would never be, But if I was, I would
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: have said, passed. I'm not going to go in that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: rent a wreck and have someone banging into view past.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna take the opportunity to overcome your traumatic
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: bumper experience. Because then is the good news is she
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: did and you know she's fine. No pass past. I'm
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: not going to like that weird car that had no
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: air bags or safety protect me. Stop stop what are
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: everybody out there listening? Amy doesn't get an elevator. She doesn't.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: She hasn't flown on a plane in eighteen years. She
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: drives everywhere. She's scared of everything. So her telling me
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: what she's scared of and wanting me to take it
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: serious is really difficult. I wouldn't get into those cars.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: There's tons of things on your show. I'd never do
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: my point exactly, Yeah, my point exactly. You would do
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: very little. Amy won't go on the show. The show
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: won't have Yeah, she she would fill a couple of
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: good roles. Um, and she would be the hottie. But
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: thank you, I needed that today. Next thank you? Um Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I did think that might have been
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: one of the best and most exciting group dates I've
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: ever watched on television. They're all very lucky that they
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: think they get to have that uh bumper car experience. UM. Okay,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: let's move on the cocktail party, the heart and soul
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor, you know, the Bachelor. Can we back
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: up for a second. We can do whatever you'd like.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Who was the young lady um from what I believe Miami, Um.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I call her no show Biana, one of our favorites
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on this podcast, one of our favorites. No chill. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: have to refer to her is that from now because
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that kind of starts on the group day and I
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: really quite liked her in terms of like every season,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: there's always someone early on who like it's like it
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: just started. I mean that we're talking like day two,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: day three of filming here, and this person is already
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: losing their ship in terms of like the time they're
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: not getting in just time out. We can't I like
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: what she's doing. Though she's being very honest, very straightforward.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: We need to appreciate her honesty more. I'm not I'm
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: not saying I don't appreciate I'm saying she still has
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: no chill, Like she's she's listen that that world is
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: hard and painful and it messes with you. She clearly
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: has not gotten much time with ari Um. It's early on,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and that's getting to her. She clearly she might be
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the coolest person. I'm sure she is, Like she's probably
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun, but she's very outspoken. Obviously clearly
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I would guess as an attractive woman used to like
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: getting attention, and now she's in a world that she's not,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and it's like messing with her and driving her nuts.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And on the first date she is losing her mind
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and melting down. It's is it weird that I'm semi
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: attracted to that I haven't attracted that my whole life.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I watched it. I'm like, I love this, it's great.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: But like she's I mean, she's very intense. But anyways,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I think she might, like I think off camera she would.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I think she'd hit someone. Yeah, I think she would.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I think I think she's capable of hitting someone, a
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: guy or a girl. I hope it happens. I don't
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: think it will, but she is really over it, and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so it kind of sets up into the cocktail party.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So I just wanted to segue into that bend. So
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: that was that. That was kind of the best part
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: of the cocktail party of her just going off on crystals. Yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: crazy crystal, and then all the making out with Becca,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the shorthaired Becca. They just seemed to be making out.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: She's the most impressive one I think just as as
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a person. Well, it's interesting because like she's the youngest.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I love her. They don't show her her age. Um,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it was night one like little things you pick up on.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Clearly she's young. They won't show her age. But to me,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: she's one of the most self assuring, confident people on there.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: When she called out when the whole like what makes
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you excited, and Ari said excitement like, you know, that
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: was a funny little thing, and like, you know, we
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: don't know if that was like the end of the night.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Are he's excited in his brains? Fried? Like, I'm not
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: here to pick on Ari about answering that question, But
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: first of all, it was just a good question. It
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't like very overly specific, but it was better than well,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here and tell me about yourself.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It was like, all right, I'm gonna like ask you
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a question that like might be able to tell me
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: something about yourself by the way you answer it. So
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a very thoughtful question. She's not dumb,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: problem is going to be her age. Yeah, And then
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the fact that, like when Aris said the excitement word,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: she had the confidence, not in any bitchy sort of way,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: but she called him out. You know, in a lot
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: of situations on that show, she could have been like
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of the women we are just like yeah, yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: excitement makes me excited too, Or she could have left
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the conversation be like that moron, I'm sorry that moron,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like and so so yeah, she but the fact that
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: she like had the confidence on Night one to call
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: out the big old bachelor in terms of it just
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: showed a lot of it showed that she was very
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: self assured and confident herself. She's got a great voice.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm really impressed with her. She's clearly
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: too young, and you're right, like, I think she'll go
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: for a while based off of that. She's very you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: sexy and whatever, but like eventually I think her age, well,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: we'll kill her. Well, it's funny. I'm watching it and
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, you compare this girl to karn it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: just like two and different maturity levels. Because she would
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: make a good bachelorette, but she's sex six years I'm
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: pretty sure. I mean that's but I mean it's good
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: for her. She's so I mean that shows that she
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: is very Uh, she's very as a young lady. She's
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: she's very impressive. Is in that world to like hold
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: her own and um, it's impressive. She I mean she
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: had one of the things that sit out to me
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: most on Night one was when she's sitting with Ari
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and he was on the back of the car and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: they were talking about, um, what they were into, and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: she said, you know, something along the lines of so
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: far this is this is good for me, not giving
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: him too much confident, but just enough to be that,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of sweet gesture to make him know, hey,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I want to be here a little longer. And I
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: think he was into it. He should be into it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: She's she's really great. She can you can tell. She
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: has a magnetic personality. He would want her, but she's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: like twenty years younger than him. Yeah, it would just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: be frowned upon fifteen years. I say, if he's hey,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: love is love. If you I'm not judging, you know
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: it's anyways. Um, So okay, Nick, I want to ask you,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the cocktail party. People these girls
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: grabbing uh Ari for more time, even when they have roses.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I know you're probably I'm gonna assume you're a fan
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: of this because you're all about, hey, take your time
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to get as much time as possible. I mean, listen,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: there's there's a there's there's a fine line of having show.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I think the idea that you have a rose and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: so therefore you're not allowed. It's like, that's a bunch
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of crap. I mean, I actually, and I think you
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: probably remember remember this when I came out on Caitlyn
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Seas and I was like, listen, remember that, Like I'm
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm going to go out of my way
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to try to find time with Cam and there's a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: respectful way of doing it. But I'm not going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: concede time just because I've gotten a rose. There's a
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: difference between like getting a little bit of time and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: waiting at the end or maybe there's you know, uh
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: as opposed to like going three times. I mean that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: was a little a little much, But I don't think
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you should immediately concede sometime because you've got some time.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: That's the most insane thing to do, to just be like, well,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I've already had some time, and therefore please guy and
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: try to like so you're saying the people, the cast
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: members on the show, So the baby on it, let's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: talk about beyond, and the babyon is upset because crystals
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: a rose and she keeps stealing Ari away from other conversations.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like biby on anger is unwarranted, then
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's unwarranted to immediately be mad at the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: first like she was mad immediately. She was mad that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: she went to talk to her at all, like nothing
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: stopping Bibi On or anyone else to just grabbing her.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: So like this idea, like they even said on the show,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: there was this kind of one moment where they're like, well,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: she's gonna go and then I'm gonna go, Like they
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: all like made a list, like if they said a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: lot of the producers are gonna just be like, all right,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: we're all gonna grab you from i TM and just
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: mess up your intentions. But like that's insane, Like this
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: is not like this idea of we're all going to
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: share the same guy and so yes, but at the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: same time, now that she's you know, and it's not
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a quins that the girl who got the most mad
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: was the one she interrupted, you know. But I think again,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: there it's a fine line, so like you can be
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: assertive and make the most of your time without being
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: quote unquote disrespectful. And I think I think both girls
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: were wrong in that situation where Babiana was had no chill.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: That's no chill, right, yeah, that's no chill, no chill,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: had no chill. And I think Crystal, I think Crystal
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: like should have just you know, been happy with a
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: little bit of time and then left it alone. Do
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: you think, as guys that were on the Bachelorette that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: guys in general have way more chill than girls? I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: just picture myself in that situation, and I would just
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: run out of the house screaming like a maniac, Get
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: me out of here. You just gave me the craziest
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: So are you saying, okay, Nick and Amy, are you
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: saying you believe guys have more chill? Wait? Wait, it
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: just depends. I mean there's been plenty of guy breakdowns
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and season. Yeah, I was there for that where any
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: of your guys, like Ben, you just took all the
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: time with this. It happens every season, every single season,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and it blows my mind that people are every single season. Yeah,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I just cannot imagine guys being like that. Yeah, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: mean I just turned into some of the biggest women
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: in that show. Well, I mean I go back to
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: when Nick came on. So we for the first four
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: weeks of The Bachelor during Caitlin season, the guys that
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: we didn't go along with kind of all went home
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: pretty early, and so we never had that contention or
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: that those arguments existing. So when Nick came on, it
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: was a huge it really stirred the pot. We all
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: had this kind of close knit friendship. I think he
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: felt it. We can ask him. He sitting next to me. Um,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: he he comes on and anytime he interrupted, he kind
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of became the guy that was the interrupter. And a
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: couple of guys that's the thing. Fair in your opinion,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: but from like the Josh Alberts of the world, who
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: was on Caitlyn season with us, he was one of
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: those guys that got very upset with you interrupted me.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't interrupt, Josh. Well, we need to break this
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: down a little bit. It sounds like we haven't figured
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: this one out yet, but it's true. If that happens
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: every year, it's it's gonna happen. Um, did you did
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you ever on Caitlyn season. There's a difference interrupting and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: then going right because every every time they're like, all right, hey,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to so and so, especially early on,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: they're like, all right, well she's in that room talking
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to someone. Go in there, right, And I know I'm
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: assuming at some point you went and grabbed Caitlin while
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: she was talking to a guy. Now, of course, now
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: they just some Again. I've always said that they choose
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: this air some things and then choose the air not right, right,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and so like that happens. In fact, that almost happens.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Every single conversation is almost always ended by someone else
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: coming in because I'm thinking about it. In real life,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: we're all at a party, right, and like, some girls
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: want to talk to Nick. It's not like they're going
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to ask each other if you had some time with Nick,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: because I have. But it's it's the people who go
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: like it's the people who go like two or three
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: times in a night. There's a that's but at a
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: real party, in a real life this is supposed to
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: be real life, right, So at a real life party,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you just go and talk to who you want to
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: talk to when you want to talk to them. There's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: no like list and I haven't had my time. It's like,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: so this is supposed to be real life, and I
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: guess Crystal can do whatever she wants, But isn't real life,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and we're not go like if you saw a guy
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and a girl talking and either they were hitting it
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: off or you don't even know if the in a relationship,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna walk up and be like hey, like listen,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I just borrow this dude for a second, like that's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So well, that does not compare this
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to real life, because it's not. Um No, it's real
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: life for me, Nick, I had to relive the most
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Google breakup of It's a real it's a real Like
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I've said this before, it's very real and a very
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: unrealistic environment. It's not a realistic environment, you know, but
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: everything on that in that world is real. These are
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: real freakouts, These are really like real feelings, These are
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: real conversations in an incredibly unrealistic situation. Because we have
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to have Nick in studio, I want to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: take a little time here too, honestly, earnestly and the
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: best of our ability break down aries bachelor performance so
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: so far, Okay, if you want to call it a performance, um,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else to call it. So if
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you have a better word for it, please right in
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and tell me. But Ari is earnestly trying to find love.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: We've we've said that. I believe he cares a lot
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: about the woman involved, he cares a lot about the process,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: um Nick, so far, after watching Ari, what do you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: think his intrigue and appeal is like what the women
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: seem very into him. Um, I feel like the country
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: is going to start falling in love with this guy
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: because they really want to see him successful. I mean
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: that's the question I'm asking you. But what why would
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: they want to find? Why would they want to see that?
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Like what intrigues them by about Ari? I mean, he's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: a good looking guy and I met him once. He's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: been very nice. Um. I mean so far this season
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: has been kind of it's interesting because he hasn't been
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: on in a while, and I feel like it's almost
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: slightly more reminiscent of like past seasons. Um, it's old school. Yeah,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I mean listen, not everything like I say this, um sarcastically.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't thrilled with it when it happened, but like,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: not every Batcher can be as lucky or unlucky in
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: terms of good TV of having someone they you know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: met at a wedding on episode one to create immediate drama. Um.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't thrilled with it, but certainly it
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: made things, you know, interesting for viewers. Um. And so
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: it's kind of again. I just found it really interesting
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: that they started with two one on ones. It was like,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you know, like you know, usually the you know, you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: get a little drama early on. I mean, Ari doesn't
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: seem like he's going to take a ton of risks. Um,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: are you scared? I mean, are you scared for Ari
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: at all? Because he won't take those risks not necessarily?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, Ben and I you have
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: talked about it's it's hard for me to be critical
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: of of Ari or any other batch or just because
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: it's so hard to be the lead and there's so
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: many things we don't know, invariables, and it's it's easy
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to nitpick, like you know, the way they answered questions,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: so much of of what's talked about isn't aired, you know. Um,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: so it's hard to me for me to be overly critical. Um,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: you know, he's just kind of he's just kind of
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: going through it. I just don't My guess is this
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: season is we're going to get all most of our
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: entertainment from the women, and I don't think we're gonna
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: get a ton from Ari. I mean that's kind of
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that's somewhat truthful in every season, uh is because they
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: just don't allow that, you know. Um, and so I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: think that might be just even more heightened on this
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: season because I just got the impression that Ari, we'll
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: just kind of you know, and I think that's well,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's why, in all honesty, I was so
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: excited for your season, because you were the first person
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: in a while that I thought had the confidence, knew
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: themselves the most, and and cared enough about the process
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to take those risks. I mean, I I was, I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: kind of did whatever. They just you know, they again
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: don't show a lot and you know, I I there
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: were conversations I had that I wanted to get aired
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: because it showed me having more of an opinion and
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: things like that. But like again, I don't get to
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: choose what they show or don't show. Obviously you had
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: like the drama with Liz early on, and you know,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the I was willing to take a risk on taking
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Karen far I knew I wasn't get criticist for it,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: but I had my reasons. You know, everyone wanted to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: meet the nanny and she was cool, um, and so
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you know, um, but yeah, it's it's it's tough to
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: to criticize. I mean, I will say, you know, we
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: talked about this before. Like, I do believe Ari is Sincerian,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: is pursued for love. I think every single lead wants
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it like and people are like, oh, like, you don't
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: become the lead with the pressure of knowing that everyone
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: who watched the show expects you to fall forward and
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: not want it like it's terrifying. I mean, I was
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: terrified that it wouldn't work out for me. I desperately
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: wanted it to work out. Um, you know, and so
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I definitely believe he's sincere in that. Um. I mean
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think you make a good point there.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think Chris or the show would have a
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: lead who they didn't believe really wanted to find somebody
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: because that could blow that could blow this whole show up.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: And so I think every lead we have to expect, hey,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: they really care. I think Ari uh cared, maybe so
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: much because he feels like this is maybe his last chance.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Not and it's not. We know that, but I think
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: the pressure of all this felt like that to him.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I mean again, I don't
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: think I think if if Ari didn't become the Bachelor,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine. I don't think anyone becomes
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: the batchler because they think this is there they'll never
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: find love in the real world. That's I think he feels.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Once you get asked to be the lead, there's just
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: an immense amount of pressure on the expectation of what
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: that is. And I think, you know, the show took
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: a risk asking r to be the Bachelor, and there's
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: immense amount of pressure UM on that. And I think
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and so if nothing else, Yeah, like listen, if it's
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet someone, and I think Al takes
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: it very seriously, and I he wants it to work out,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: like every lead does. Um. I don't know if he
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: wants it more or less than any lead before him.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's has anything other than
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to do with that's the world he agreed to be
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: a part of and that's the expectation of the show. UM.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think that in any way makes it insincere. UM.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: And I you know, yeah, I mean you're not wrong there.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I think you're actually spot on. I realized last night
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: watching the episode that Ari was not one that was
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: going to take many risks. And do you do you
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: want to know why? Why's that? Because on his one
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: on one day with Crystal. They went back to Scottsdale
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and they visited his apartment, and as they walked into
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: his apartment, they walked through his closet, and his closet,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: if you paid close attention, was completely from shoes to
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: helmets to his shirts color coded. I mean, I'm not kidding,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: you need to watches back. Everything was color coded, which
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: tells me one of two things. He has a dark side,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: or the man knows what ye or the man knows
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: what he wants and he knows how to represent his wardrobe.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I actually have my closet color color coded, so I
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: cannot you know which is a lot of cardigans apparently
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: dresses like Mr Rogers me or him? Alright, he does know.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I wondered that too. His his wordrobe is not risque
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: in itself, so I wanted to bring that up. I
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: did notice his his closet was color coded. What one
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: situation is the bachelor that I never knew how to
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: do well. I don't know if anybody knows how to
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: do it well. But it also really affected me and
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and my experience was this this the breakups, the saying goodbyes,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: the moments where you have to give no explanation, but
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: you're asking somebody to leave. Tonight, we saw Ari at
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the roast ceremony say goodbye to somebody. She walks out,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: no hug, no goodbye, No, hey, this has been great.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: She walks out and wants an explanation, and are are
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: all ri you can do is try to hug her,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: which was awkward in itself and are probably not a
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: great decision there, But hey again, what do you do?
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: How do you recommend any bachelor bachelorrette saying goodbye? And
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: and does Ari o her an explanation? I thought I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: thought that was a great TV moment um. It was
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: a classic case of you can't fire me. I quit
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: because she was like, well, I don't even like I'm
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: not even upset about you. I just don't want to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: have friends here and I have friends here, which is
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: probably true, but like she just felt the need to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: say that. I give ari a lot of credit because
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: like that is you think you said it best. It's
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: an incredibly awkward situation, and so you're just so used
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: to people kind of like quote unquote doing what they're
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: supposed to do, and just like I'm gonna give you
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: an instance here hug and say thank you and wish
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you the best of luck and you're gonna leave, but
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: she didn't. And it's just like in that moment, already
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: has this side what do I do? Which like there's
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: no playbook and and you know, I we I think
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: we'd all like to think we would do the same thing,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: but like I don't know, it could just be like
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: this awkward. Like I don't know, do I make it
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: worse by going over? So I give Area a lot
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: of credit by going and making an attempt, and you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: whether you try to hugg her or whatever, like I don't,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: that's not on Ari, that's it's just like you said,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: it's very awkward situation. She thought had andoed herself terribly
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: showed in an immends amount of immature a charity, uh,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And like I thought it was really telling that she was,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: like I've never been broke up with before, and like,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: clearly I don't know how all this girl is, but
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing she's incredibly young and very immature and has
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of growing up to do and for future,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: for future cast members, I think it's important to remember
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: that at most people don't get a lot of memorable
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: moments or air times. But your most memorable moment is
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: always going to be unless you get engaged, when you
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: get dumped, and it has a chance to be either
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a great moment or a bad moment. I've you know,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: kind of you could argue, but on the best side
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: of both moments. I mean, but yes, she clearly didn't
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: show any type of maturity or gracefulness and in her
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: breakup and uh if for for people go on when
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you get dumped, you know, that's your moment to shine
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: and shows show something that that's it. I mean, that's um.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: She didn't handle her stuff very well, which it was
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: fun to watch. You know. The goodbye is always hard
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: in the Bachelor because there isn't a lot of explanation.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: There's not a lot of lead up to it. Pretty
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: much for the most part, you're saying goodbye for whatever reasons,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and you just hope that there's an understanding that, hey,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: this show has thirty people on it, I'm only gonna
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: hopefully end up with one. There's gonna be a lot
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: of goodbyes. I don't want to say goodbye either. This
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: isn't the fun part for me or the lead. Please
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: make this as easy as possible, and if you want
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: an explanation, maybe reach out later. But that moment, like
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: you said, is is is your your shining moment. You
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: know what, Be cordial, say your goodbyes, keep your head
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: held high. You're you're gonna be fine, You're you're gonna
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: be okay. Well, let's let's be honest, like at this point,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Ari doesn't know any of these women. He knows Becca
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit because he went on on a one
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: on one day with there, he knows Crystal a little
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: bit because, but other than that, he doesn't really know
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: any of them yet. The hardest part about being the
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: batchelor sometimes is um, like you're always gonna be drawn
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to a handful of women and just it's just natural,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and it's you try to be open to get to
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: know the rest of the women, but it's harder to do.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: And women are intuitive and smart and they pick up
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: on that um and you know, so they they're they're
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: kind of faking it too in terms of their level
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: of interest for the lead until they get broken up
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: with and they're like, well, I don't even like them,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and then they go home and they get on a
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: group chat with all their other you know, early exit
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: friends and like just talk crap about you know, Ari
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and and and all the girls who are still there.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Like it happens every season. Um, there's always an immediate
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: group chatte I mean for my season, one of the
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: breakups that stood out to me the most was when
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: were in bar Uh, this beautiful young lady from Oklahoma
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: said goodbye. She just wanted to leave, she wanted to
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: go home. It wasn't for it's a power move. But
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: it also affected me because that was weak, I think
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: two and I was questioning myself not at that point,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: is this gonna happen to me over and over and
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: over again? Is this is this? Is this gonna be
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a constant this season? Yeah, luckily that didn't happen to me.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, because you're you're told it doesn't mean anything.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: It just means that maybe they that's maybe just I'm
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: sure there are plenty of girls who are like, he
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't even like me, but I hate him, you know
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: who knows, right, But like that's the show is like
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: you're told that you're the guy or the man, and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: everyone's there is like I can't believe it's you and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you're so great And then like and that was when
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: someone leaves. I mean, like that would just mess with
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: your psyche. Um you handle yourself well, then thank you
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: having a power moved by that Lauren girl, like you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: who is this? Like who sincirely was like I'm out,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I'm out from this dude that I'm gone listen. But
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: also like you probably weren't giving her any time and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: she probably knew it and she beat you to the punch.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah, I think for the exit where she's
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: she told Ari, Hey, I have a lot of friends here,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not that upset about you. In a sense is
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: a power move as well, and so we got to
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: give her a little credit. I don't think so credit.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: That was just like you can't fire me, I quit
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: so so Nick, good for you to finish this up. Then,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, how is ari
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: as the bachelor so far? I don't know. I don't
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: feel that was so weak. I think you don't feel
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: like making headlines? What else would you invite you on
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the podcast with you and rumor willis while we're at it?
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Friend just everybody was talking about it because you posted
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: a photo with it. Yeah, she's just a good friend.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I mean not just she's a great friend, she's awesome.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: You walked into that season. I gave you a one
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: to ten. All you have to do is give give
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: a positive number. Instead, Amy just crushes you with, Hey,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: what's this gossip of about? Oh? I got way more
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: secrets than that. All right, So Nick, we want to
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: go into one of our favorite segments, and that is
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: taking reading emails from our listeners. But before you do,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I want you to give me right now, who's your
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: top choice of cast members on the Bachelor and who
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: is someone on the batchelor right now that gives you hesitancy.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know about hesitancy. I'll start with but listen,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: it's fun to watch the women who are creating good TV.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if they give me hesitancy.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: You know, uh, I don't think Lauria Ari's gonna end
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: up with Crystal. Who's the other who's the young lady,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: who's a mother? Who? You know? I think it's gonna
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: be an entertaining show because, like you have in this week,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of personalities, a lot of women who,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: like you know, Chelsea, you watch episode one, You're like, oh,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: here's your villain, and then all of a sudden Episode two,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: you got Crystal and you're like, oh, here's another villain.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: You know, then you have no chill freaking out, and
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: then you said you have some other other moments. So
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting. None of these women,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I think really are probably gonna win or capture are
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: his heart. But who knows. Um, I don't know. If
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: they give me hesitancy. I hope there's more of it.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: I hope they stick around for a while. Um. In
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: terms of you know, Becca, both Becca's, I mean I think, um,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: the Becca who had the one on one day, she
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: just seems like, you know, someone who again she has
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: has some confidence, she seems mature. They seem to hit
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it off. You know. Again, we've already talked about her
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: sticking around. I think we are on the same page
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: that the other Becca. Um, well, you know, it's too
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: young and will be kind of the her fate. But
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: to me, she's easily she's the only one who really
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: stands out. I mean, she's you know, and you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think that means either Ben and I want
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: to you know, meet Becca in that sense, but well
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: there you mean you're you're fairly age appropriate. Um. But
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: she's to me the only one who really stands out
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: in terms of I think in Yeah, the rest I'm
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: not don't. I can't really remember, I'm sure. More it's
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: early on, so it's hard to have anyone stand out.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: So again, it's I think it says more about Becca
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: standing out this early on, um, just because she clearly
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: has something going for in that sense, and she's probably
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: just been that type of person who's always stood out. Um.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think as as the season progresses
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: will have we'll get introduced to more women and more
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: personalities and their stories and and things like that. All Right,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: So I want to give my top girls Number one.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: C n She's she's an Ivy League grad, she got
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the group they rose, She's been a little quiet so far.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I find her absolutely beautiful and very very intriguing. Um.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in order, so I have a top
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: five here. Uh. Next is one that I don't know. Guys.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Nick doesn't want to create headlines, but I might have to. Um,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I think this tea girl is something special. Which one
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: she's guys, you're really crushing my moment. Raven's friend. The
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: one who arm tattoo. Yeah, she's very very interesting, funny, Uh, beautiful.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know she she might have a future. Yeah,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: let's not forget the original Becca. I'm moving on. Yeah, Brittany, Brittany,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the one from last week that I thought maybe went home.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: There must have been another Brittany that went home. Brittany
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: is great, Marie owns the restaurant. Uh, stunningly beautiful. Here's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: one for you. No chill, Bibiana. I mean that girl,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: she's got something special. I know she's she's aggressive, I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: know she's fierce. I'm not saying it's bad, she just no.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: But I watched her, and I say, girl, you get
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: it like you just keep causing drama and I'm gonna
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: keep watching. You should have been the Bachelor yet. Um? Yeah,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: the original Becca obviously, uh is one of a kind.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Original one on one Um. Yeah, one on one Becca,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: call her their original? Yeah, the original the top dog. Um.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: And then here's the ones that give me hesitancy and
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: and I mean hesitancy in the in the sense of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like it's early on. We don't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: know them fully. We've liked them at times, maybe I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: haven't And I'm a little nervous. Chelsea, the mom I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: thought had Episode two was one that I go, Okay,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I can see it now she's she's great. She was
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: nervous night one because she didn't want to tell her
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: she had a kid. Now that she said that, we're
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: gonna start to see her real personality and I think
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: she might shine. But she still gives me hesitancy. Uh
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: mickel Um, you know obviously just we didn't see a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: lot from her week two. She she was the one
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: that drove up in in the fancy car on night one,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: flipped her hair around a little bit. Yeah. She She
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: was in the news this week apologizing for um a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: picture she posts on Instagram years ago. So yeah, Mickelson,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: it was appropriately racist. Yeah so what she yeah? Um?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: And then we have Crystal. Crystal was one that I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: know we talked about a little bit ago. There's just
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: something different there And I don't know why she won't
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: just be friendly and day ari and chill a little bit.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I actually will call her my no chill number two. Um,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: she's just vocal fry. So that's that's that's why I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: got top CNTA, Brittany Marieke and Bibbie, Anna and then
• 1:02:24
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  Speaker 1: some listener emails. I want to start here with one
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: called suspicious in Seattle, says so amped watch our season,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: hoping the womanizer rumors would be put to rest. Well.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: To my surprise, are tagged the young woman on his
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  Speaker 1: Snapchat story in New York City between on New Year's Eve.
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• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: New York City. One of hers was even captured calling
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: him daddy. Oh jeez. Anyways, who is this a Bachelor handler,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: a friend, a date? I need to know? Is he
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: really a change man? Or is this a sign that
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: his venture didn't end with love. I figured if anyone
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: can get to the bottom of it, it would be
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: producer Amy, producer, what do you think? What's yeah? I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: recognized the girl as somebody like a producer or something. Yeah,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: she's a producer on the she's a producer on the show. Um.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They were there in New York City for
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. Nothing because he was there for work
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: promoting The Bachelor. He was on Good Morning America the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: next day. She was there with him. Of course she's
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: going to go and be his friend and hang out
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: during that evening. It was nothing. It's a hand it's
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: a handler producer from the show. Uh, they were just
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: having a good time. Don't look too much into it. Okay,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: here's one from Skyler, Ben and Nick. For the past
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: few seasons, the bachelors always seemed to give the first
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: impression rows to the women who don't get along with
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: the other girls, the ones who are aggressive, out spoken
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: in know what they want with the acceptance. With the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: exception of Sean and Nick, wand Pablo gave it to Charlene, Krista,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: britt Bend Olivia and now Ari to Chelsea. It makes
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: me wonder to producers recommend who to give the rose too.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: And then bachelrettes seem to have a very good sense
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: of the men in the beginning, with the exception of
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Andy and Desiree, who both gave it to the runner ups.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Caitlin give it to Sean, Jojo to Jordan, and Rachel
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: to Brian. Just interesting, just an interesting observation. Would like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: to hear from you guys, thoughts on why this is well.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: First off, it's very clear Skyler, women are more intuitive
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: than men. That's just true. So of course they're going
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: to give it to the right people. And of course
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the wrong gave mine to Rachel.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: That's not a bad call, I mean no, So to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: answer the question here, uh, and I'll answer for Nick.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: And I know the producers don't recommend. They can't recommend. Obviously,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: we don't know these women fully, we know what we've seen,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and I think, as we talked about on last week's podcast,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: women that are a little more outspoken, a little more
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: forward on Night one definitely come off as somebody more
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: invested into the experience. And so I think our poll
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: as the Bachelor is going to be okay. That women's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: woman seems to be here for the right reasons, and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: as a result, I want to make sure to invest
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: in this relationship and to let her know that I care. Um, Bachelor,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: that's just a really smart I don't know. Yeah, they've
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: made some really good decisions now I read this email back.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: There's also like different reasons why people might give out
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the first impression ros you know, elite a leader could
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: give it to someone who finds intriguing, but they're not
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: even sure if if they could easily be more into
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: other people and give someone else the first impression rolls,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: advice you know, or you know, and some people could
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: literally just say that this is the person I like
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the most, you know, I mean, that's why I'm watching
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: the show is you're watching the whole story play out,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: so from night one on who he's into first or
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: who she's into first, to the very end when we
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: get the final conclusion the show. That's why we watched this.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Perfect decisions won't always exist, but the bleed tries I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: would assume very hard. Nick on with the next email,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's from Elizabeth. From Elizabeth, Hey, Ben and Nick.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Have you all seen what the ladies who got sent
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: home night one from our season have created? See at
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: the Rose Girls or at the Underscore Rose Girls on Instagram.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: They also have a YouTube channel. Really well, I haven't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: fully investigated because I was too stunned and have to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: check in immediately and we see if all you If
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: y'all new, and hope you could share your thoughts on
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: the next podcast. The fact that the ladies sent home
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: night one can now ride the fame train is unreal
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: to me. This is adding a whole new element to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: the social experiment that is The Bachelor. How do you
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: think this will affect the show in casting? In the future.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing your thoughts in talents in broadcasting, journalism, podcasting, blogging, etcetera, etcetera.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: With the world best allies. Um, I don't think this
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: is anything new. I think it's just more of the same.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: It's I think it's it's it's typical. Every every person
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: who goes on the show. Um, I think more than anything,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: is open to love but excited about this new experience.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're only going to be famous. It
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: just means they're going on for this thing. And the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: people who get sent home early on, especially at one,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: are it's hard. It's it's it's certainly their egos that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: are certainly shot down. Um, you listen, it's it's silly.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Yes and no, they're not going to ride the fame
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: train because they have known none and no one cares
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: about it. Almost yeah, they're not even they're not remotely famous,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: and certainly comes across as a little thirsty and you know, lame,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: But there's there's some solidarity. I think they're just there's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: just hope and maybe strength and numbers. It's just like
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: whatever I mean, not to be too like, you know,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: not to be overly critical, like I think there's just
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of disappointment, and yeah, they're trying to make
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: the most of it. I don't think it is going
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: to affect casting. This isn't the first time. Um, the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: women who got sent home early like tried to make
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: the most of their experience. The man. I remember a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: hashtag that was the Rose Boys. It's not yeah, exclusive
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: with the women anyway. They're like, you're gonna find people
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: who go home early go going on as many podcasts
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: as they can possibly go on. I don't even cares,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: just like, we'll go, you know, because they're just trying
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: to maximize their time, of which they didn't. They probably
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: went into the show with a lot of hopes and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: dreams that you immediately got crushed. So I'm not, you know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: judging it's not gonna go anywhere. It's It's typical. It
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: happens every single series. I would just I mean, my one,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: my one if I can give my advice, would be
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I agree, it doesn't. It's not uncommon. However, they spent
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of money on some videos. I watched these
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: videos when I saw this email, and I watched the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: videos back. There's there's some high production value in them,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: so I'm worried that they've all invested a lot of
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: money and and they're hoping to get a return out
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: of it. I would just advise anybody, Hey, don't go
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: on the show because you think you're gonna you're gonna
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: get famous from it. It happens very rarely, if at all.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: The luck involved. There's a lot of luck involved. There's
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of being in the right place at the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: right time. Just do it because it's a cool experience,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: but don't go into it thinking this is gonna change
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: your life. I've said it many times on this podcast.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: The best advice I has ever given was do this
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: whole experience to enhance the left you already had. Not
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: change your life completely. Uh, if you weren't making YouTube
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: videos before, I wouldn't recommend doing it because of the show. Nick.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I think we have one more email for either from tests. Hi.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven years old and perpetually single. I do
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: my best to say positive and understand that timing is everything.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason. To disagree with that, UM,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: know yourself first. Each year I get older, the more
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the fear of being alone presses on me, like not
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: finding someone who is a real thing without settling. What
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: advice do you have for myself and others like me
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: who are feeling discouraged? Thank you for reading and keep
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. Tests well tests. Uh, you're only
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: twenty seven, So first and foremost, I know a couple
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: of things that I kind of say. I get that
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: you feel old because today is the oldest you've ever been,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: But you're only um, so when you're thirty five, you'll
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: look back and think how young felt Um. So you're
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: not that old, so you'll be fine. Um. Second of all, yeah,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I mean listen. I also say one thing that people
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: forget when when they have relationships don't work out is
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: that if you're really, really really lucky. Uh. And I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: think Alm stole us in from me in this book.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: He got this from me. But if you're really really lucky,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: at most, you'll only have one relationship your life that
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't fail. One. That's the most. It's the most possible.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Unless you know someone dies, it's not necessarily a failure,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: and you meet someone else, but that's it. You can
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: only have one. So the fact that you're twenty seven
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: and you you haven't found that one yet, it's not
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: that big of a deal and in a good way.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: So just keep doing what you're doing. It eventually happened. Um,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: don't stress about it's probably the worst thing you can do.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: And um, you know, enjoy being twenty seven, have some fun,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: make some bad choices, and then you know, when you're
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: thirty years old, you know he'll come come running. You know.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: The book that Nick dis reverenced to is Buy a
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Long Gael. It's called You're Not That Great, great book.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: And but neither is anyone else along as a producer
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, and he is also one of the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: people that will usually sit there and there's one on
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: one interviews and and dive to the heart of your
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: fears and your insecurities. Go check out his book. Um,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: but I would agree. I just want to add to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: that is let's start accepting singleness and saying there's actually
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of benefit to it. Um, you get to
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: explore who you are better, You get a lot of
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: time to process and think. Uh, your schedule is pretty
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: much your own without a few you know, side activities.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Singleness can be a very positive experience. And don't waste
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: this time or this season of singleness because you're hoping
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: for a relationship, I would. I just think that's something
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: I'm learning right now too, is be in the present moment,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: focus on where you're at now, become the person that
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: you need to be for yourself so you can be
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: that person for somebody else later. And don't don't compare
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: yourself to others. I mean, I don't know if if
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: tests you know, has a circle of friends is where
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: they're all married and having kids already, And so even
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: though she's only twenty seven and relatively young, she feels
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: a lot older because everyone else is at different stages
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: in their life and that can happen. And if that
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: is the case, um, get more friends. Um you know, yeah,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of the journey of life and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: it's just between to learn about yourself. But I think
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: it's just important not to stress yourself out. And um
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: uses an opportunity to you know, and not maybe find
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: new friends, but like it is an opportunity to take
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: advantage of, like Ben said, of of being single and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: have new adventures because even though maybe you want to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: get married and have a kid, you'll be the one
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: person who's like your friends live vicariously through you because
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: You're doing all this fun, single and exciting things and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: they're like not um, not to you know, discourage that. Yeah,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: grass is always greener. Is something that I think our
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: generation uh needs to deal with and see that the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: shiny new thing isn't always the best thing, but we're
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: always gonna want the shiny new thing. Hey, we'll one
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: last email. This one is really interesting to me, and
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I think Nick and I we got to prepare for
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: a little tough love. I'm gonna read it here. It's
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: from Jessica. I've been in a relationship for three years
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: with a man who I love. The relationship is, for
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: the most part great. For the most part, it's a
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: relationship I've been I've dreamt up, except that about a
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: year into our relationship, my friend discovered him on Plenty
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: of Fish, which is a dating app, and Ashley Madison
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: trying to find other girls. I was devastated. I planned
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: to break up with him. He begged me not to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: when I confronted him and promised me he would never
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: cheat and that he will never go on another dating site.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: At that time, we're in a long distant relationship and
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: I found out I was moving the same city as him,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: so I chalked the whole thing up too. We were
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: only together on weekends, so it would be different now
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: that we're in the same city. Fast forward four months later,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: I snooped through his email and found that he had
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: signed up for another dating site. He said his account
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: was hacked. Fast forward another nine months after this, and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I snooped through his phone and he had good old
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: Best hookup site, and then he was looking for hookups
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: on Craiglist and plenty of Fish. I love him so much,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: of course you do. The thought of breaking up is
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: so sad. I'd like to mention that he's literally treats
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: me like a queen. And I don't think he's actually
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: cheating because we were so we're together so often. I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: don't think he could. But I wonder if he's addicted
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: to seeing what else is out there. Should I end this?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Please help? Can I can Nick take this away? Be honest,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: because I think this email requires honesty, Jessica. If I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: were to sum up my advice into one word, it
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: would be run um, listen, listen, We've all been there.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: No judgment. I get where you're coming from. I think
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: your ego is messing with you. A little bit. Um,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: this guy is a terrible human being. She's been with
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: him for a long time. It sounds like he checks
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of the boxes of things that she wants,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: And there's probably a lot of great things about the relationship,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: but she's right now deciding to ignore a lot of
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: the terrible things. And maybe there's a lot of fears
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, the fear of being single, like
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the fear of admitting to yourself this is not the
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: perfect relationship that you you thought it was. Um, there's
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: some things with your ego in terms of I don't
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: think he's capable of cheating on me. Of course, he's
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: capable of cheating on you, like everyone, Like everyone is
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: capable of being cheated on. No one's so great or
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: special that you know someone wouldn't possibly cheat on them.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: It's it's happened to the best of us. Um, so
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I think just it's tough to admit that to yourself. Um. Yeah,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: it was a long distance relationship. This guy is aggressively
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: trying to meet other women, and you're just his side girl,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: to be honest, jess U and Um, you're his comfort,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: you're his Netflix and chill. You're the girl he gets
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: to go on the dates with and pretend like. There's
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there who like I don't
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: get it. It's too much effort. Why guys will have
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: relationship and and still like date other women Because it's
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: too hard to make a success relationship work. Um, but
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: some guys do. And so you're his Netflix and Show person,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the person who he does relationship things with,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: and he gets to meet other women. UM. So this
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: is a toxic and terrible situation that you're in that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: um I won't last. And if I can give you
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: any final thoughts of of hope, is that I can
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: promise you one thing I know, you won't end up
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: with this guy. You might make a terrible decision get engaged,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: you might make an even worse terrible decision and get married,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: And you might make an even worse terrible decision like
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: have a family with him. But eventually this relationship will end,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: hopefully sooner than later. When it does end and time passes,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: he will look back and be mad at yourself that
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: you weren't more honest with yourself about the reality of
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: the situation. And you will cry and laugh, but most importantly,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: just be happy he's no longer in your life that much.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that was beautiful, that was honest,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: and that was that was And I think Jessica just
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: tad on the Nick is listen to to Nick. I mean,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's coming from a place where we have
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: this on adulterated view of where this relationship is. We
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: have this view from from a very high level based
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: on an email. And what Nick is saying is don't
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you can like and you can love somebody, But when
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: you see the signs like this, especially when they're this
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: um deep and dark and there could this consistent, it's
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: it's time to go, no matter how much it hurts.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: So also listen to yourself. Give yourself some credit in
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the sense that this advice for anyone at the moment
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: you feel then urge to check someone's messages, emails, text
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: or anything. The relationships over um because there's a reason
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: why you're doing it, and maybe they're not necessarily doing anything,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: but there's something toxic about the relationship that's making you
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: do something that that that you're better than UM. So
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: listen to yourself. There's something a part of you is
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: telling you there's something wrong here. Your ego is telling
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: you that it's not you know, because your ego doesn't
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: want you to think that you can be in this
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: terrible relationship or be do by this asshole, our guy
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: or this jerk or whatever. Um. But listen to yourself,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: because there is a part of you is telling you
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: the the the telling you the right thing to do,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: the urge to to email and ask these questions. You
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: know the answer, and I think you just have to
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: have the courage and the guts to do their to
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: do the right thing. Hey, everybody, this has been an
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: incredible podcast. I want to thank Nick for coming in
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: and hanging out with us today. Yes please, uh what
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: what an awesome opportunity for us on this podcast to
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  Speaker 1: have Nick in here to talk about the Bachelor, to
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  Speaker 1: break down the Bachelor, because I think, just like Ari did,
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  Speaker 1: Nick took this experience very seriously, was close to his heart,
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  Speaker 1: and his life has been affected in and because of
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  Speaker 1: the show. And so Nick, thank you for coming in
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  Speaker 1: and you're sharing your heart with us and talking about
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  Speaker 1: a show that you and I have both participated in. Also,
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  Speaker 1: back next week and we'll break down episode three of
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  Speaker 1: our season, which is actually season four, episode three for
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I hope we don't. Until then,
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  Speaker 1: I've been been and you've been Nick. Hey. Thanks everybody.
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