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Is Bodybuilding Sexualising? | 5 Pro Shows in One Weekend | 2027 Olympia Qualified · Stage Talk Podcast

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: So, do you mind if I feminine rage a little bit before we just fucking do it?
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, click click.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: So have you seen the SNL thing about the comedian at all?
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's guy gone.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: Does this have to do with the post you just made?
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, because you you're probably like, I didn't I I laughed at the post.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know what it was about though.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: So let's hear it.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: So there's this comedian on SNL, and I don't know his name, the backstory, whatever.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: So he basically it's it's firstly it's it's another person speaking about how women need to dress and all this stuff, but like he basically said, if you wear short shorts to the gym, like you're a whore or something like that.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it was it was it was one of those things where like you're asking for it because you just like that one of the things.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and it's like you're car it's characterized, and firstly, there's so much about just that in general that is like firstly, like offensive.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's again another man telling a woman what to wear, what to do, all this shit.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not that's not what I'm actually pissed off at.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's the the actual joke is so fucking unoriginal, it's so boring now.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's it's stupid.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's stupid that for the since the dawn of time, we've always been told all these things about like women are whores if we if we show off our skin, if we wear tight clothing, all these things.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's been in our nature, in in our realm for so long.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's still the same jokes over and over again.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: You could have come up with such a way more creative joke for it to actually be funny, versus it's literally just like, oh, you're a whore because you showed some skin.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Cool, boring next.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's so boring.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like what I just posted on my Instagram.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_02: Literally, the girls in the comments had me screaming.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: I was dying because it was like, obviously, I've said, you know, some man thinks women are whores for wearing short shirts to the doom.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, wait until he hears what sport I'm into.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: And literally the top comment that literally the top comment literally was like back pose would literally be his last straw.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, and I literally commented like walks to the back would be get real awkward real quickly.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: And someone said, wait until I explain to him how I get my proton.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I was literally dying, like actually dying.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, one, these women, the girly pops are absolutely killing it in my comments.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: I was laughing so hard, but it's also like it just paints a deeper picture of like it's just boring, it's so fucking boring now.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like we're here.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know what else it paints a deeper picture of?
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be my certified man hater self, like I am on here.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know what pisses me off about that topic is that all it is doing is it is men projecting how they know men are, or or not to categorize all men, but they're projecting how like how men are.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you're saying that you look like a whore or you're asking for it because of what you're wearing, tight clothing, short shorts, blah, blah, blah.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's projecting from other men.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's you literally saying, like, I'm viewing you like that because you're dressing like that.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: You're asking for it because I can't control myself.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, get the fuck out of here, dude.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: This is what I mean.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it and it it it's annoying that it paints that picture of like, oh well, like it's your fault.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's a victim mentality of like, oh, I'm the victim here.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: Are you kidding me?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, it's not even that, but also another, another topic, which again, we could speak about this for hours and but like we'll get onto normal stuff recently.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: But it also paints, which I that's why I posted it.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: Because I was going back and forth with making a post because one, it annoys me.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: Two, it's still it's it's trending, so I don't want to fuel the fire, but then I'm also like, why would I not use my voice?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then also equally, it's it actually makes me realize how desexualizing bodybuilding actually is, like so much.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like all the girls in the comments being like, oh, all these things, and it I'm laughing at that, like walk to the back of the stage.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's it doesn't matter.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: If a man says to me, which multiple men have, you've got great glutes, thank you so much.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great compliment.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: Versus, you have a nice ass, I'm going to slap you round the face.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: But the same, they're the same context, they're the exact same context.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: So, but one is very viewed differently.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so if someone was to say to me, You've got great glutes, oh my god, your glutes are amazing, thank you so much.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, versus, oh, you've got a nice ass.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's I mean, it's the difference of like, it's kind of the difference of like when, and I've heard this from some of my friends, competitors, clients, when like a younger girl, eight like 18-year-old girl, wants to get into bodybuilding, how their dad might feel about that.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: But it not in like a negative way, but because they just don't know.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: And like, oh, like they automatically see it as like a sexual thing, like something that shouldn't be, right?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: But in reality, the people that are in it, like I'm there watching the literal 10 best glutes in the world walk to the back at the Olympia, and you think nothing of ass.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: You literally, I'm literally looking at them like, oh fuck, VB, you dropped your glutes.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, pick them up.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like that's all I'm fucking thinking.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: You're not looking at it in any other way when you're actually in this sport.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why I love Osborne.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it made me realize how much like when I posted that, because I was a bit like, you know, it's very controversial.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: And like, you know what it's like?
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: Speaking about those types of things, it can, it can bring hate, it can bring whatever.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, again, I'm I don't care because I want to post what I want to post.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to have to have that feeling.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_02: But the fact that the girly pops in the comments were literally like, oh my god, this is jokes.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it just and it it again it reilliterates like how our sport is so de-sexualized.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: And don't get me wrong, it's not completely, and I'm not saying like, oh, it's perfect, it's just not, but it's it's nice that this realm or this side of of where we are right now, it's like it we can just be like, yeah, this is the we're we're secure enough in ourselves where we don't have to feel ashamed.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what I really love.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: Get it, but that also doesn't still like that doesn't stop how others view it from the outside.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: That also there's the broader stroke that it doesn't even have to do with competing, like you said, like the person thinking that someone's a whore because they want to wear short shorts.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like that doesn't even have to be bodybuilding competition, like that's just literally like how how men view themselves and they don't realize like you're you're projecting yourself and other men onto what you're viewing about this female here.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, shut the fuck up, dude.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, literally.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: So that and that's why I was like, I want to bring up this conversation because one I posted about it, and two, it's actually really important for us to one, not give a fuck, and like who cares?
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: Two, like, do with what that with that information what you will, but like it's I want people to realize, like, especially in the the world of bodybuilding, don't like I said, it's not completely desexualized, but you don't have to feel awkward in this sport because of XYZ.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like it for me, I view the body now as such a different manner, like it's such a different thing now.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's such a big uh that's such a big kind of topic to point out to people that do want to get into this sport because you do have people that like like an an 18-year-old girl that wants to do her first true novice competition.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there is those like nerves about wearing a suit in front of strangers, getting on stage for judges.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like you like, it's good for people to know, like the majority of people at these shows are not viewing you in any type of way like that.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we're literally looking at you for your physique.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it's uh that have I've I've seen people where that like kind of helps them get over that little hump of like, yes, oh I'm like uh like yes, I know I'm also gonna be I'm being judged, and on top of that, there's all these strangers looking at me.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: People are taking photos of me in my like in my posing suit and all this.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's not no one's viewing you.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I shouldn't say no one, but those of us that are in the industry there that know are not viewing you in any sexual manner when you're on.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, if you are viewing anyone in a sexual manner in that way, firstly, you're a piece of shit, so don't do that.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: And two, like, because I'm not saying our sport is perfect because we've heard stories and all this type of stuff, but I'm saying like try and find the right people, like again, find people in your sport, in your industry that you feel safe around to be able to express these feelings if things like this happen.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like those things are it's important to talk about because I'm not saying that the sport is perfect, you know.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: So, but that's what I want to say.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: I want to talk to, you know, you're one of the girls, you're one of the certified girls.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, yes.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_00: On a semi-similar note, is your tan off right now?
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, did you get it all the way off?
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I it's still on, but like okay, this sounds so ridiculous of me.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: Your skin, like shoulder to shoulder, looks insane.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's so like it's like flawless, like it looks like it's like brushed over.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like literally.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, the tan we used this weekend was was uh I we used a combination of like super dark and because I've never used super dark before.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: I've never used yeah, we've used the base coat and then super dark as like the top coat.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was we were way darker because obviously our feedback from Southern Nussle was get make sure that your tan was darker, and we got way, way darker, and it was a really, really nice colour.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, it's left like usually my tan rubs off pretty quickly, but it's still like residuing.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's it's very dark right now.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: But thank you so much.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, always good.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's Kerrigan's go-to as well.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: She's got like a formula with the pro tan like measurement of how much she mixes of the two together for herself down to like a T.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: So um hang up, yeah.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you just won two pro shows.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: You're qualified next year.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck yeah.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, we're fully, fully qualified.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_02: Back to the exciting stuff.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I mean, yeah, like I again, I don't think I've processed it.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: I still want to try and like when I get back to Dubai, because of again, it's like the next thing, like tomorrow we've got a 30-hour travel ahead of us to go back to Dubai.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: So for me, it's like, cool, I'm focusing on that now and like getting back home.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like once I get home, I think then it's gonna be okay, what the hell have we just done right now?
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what did we just do?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_02: We've qualified, we did the Olympia, like all the things.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_02: And um, first I want to give a massive congrats to um Corinne.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: She was actually the first person to qualify, which we'll go through all of this anyway, but she was the first person to qualify at um, she did the Philippines, I think, and she won.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: And then that was her qualification because I woke up to that and I was like, oh yeah, she she won.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, um, and then yeah, so I was one of the people to qualify this weekend, so very happy about that.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and big shout out to your man over there in Dubai because he's like on his sh-I know the time difference and everything.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: In the second, the second that you won, I had a text from him, like immediately.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, She fucking did it.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: I literally love it.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she did.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: He's literally so on it, and I'm literally, I'm I'm just it's it's so nice, and I'm so excited to go back to like seeing him and stuff like that as well.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: So it's gonna be really like everything's just gonna be so nice.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm excited.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but we've got this weekend is like ridiculously busy.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: Is it seven or five shows?
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's six, it's five or six, yeah.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: And on top of that, there's fit model shows, which we usually don't touch on a lot, but there are more fit model shows this weekend, too.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot this weekend.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of model.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, right.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: And guys, just so you know, we will like, especially with the slower season, if you will, coming up.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like Olympia's done.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, this weekend's super packed, but um, after like mid-November, it gets a little more scarce, and then December and January, there's not a lot of shows at all.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we're gonna up the content with some like QA's and stuff, like a whole hour episode of answering your guys' QA's live, um, stuff like that.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we could bring on a guest at some point too, which is like something, something random we haven't done before, mix it up a bit.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: But we got a lot of shows to talk about this weekend.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, a lot.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: So let's power through these.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: We'll also get back into the physique assessments too, do like one or two an episode.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: People were really loving that one.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: That'll be really cool.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: So we got nationals coming up.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: We had this to be fair, not to talk about me constantly all the time, whatever.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: This is cool.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: This is cool the whole year.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, wow, I didn't realize I actually opened my mouth in every single fucking bow I think of me winning.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I already have a big mouth, but it's like every single single one.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um okay, hang on.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Real okay, real question.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: Real question here.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: What was cooler?
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: The bowling ball or the Thor's hammer?
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: To be fair, the Thor's hammer is so cool because I'm such a like Marvel fan as well.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: So like that was really cool to get like that.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: But the bowling ball, I'm literally I literally just packed it earlier and it's got like a little stand, like a little sound with it.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm very excited to put that in like the little.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're gonna have to get Shroffee Cabinet at this point.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I forgot you're a big like Marvel fan, because that's why like Mike did the Southern Muscle show Summerfeld, because he's a big Dragon Ball Z fan and he wanted that ball.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's so yeah.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: When I saw the Thorhammer, that was literally mine and Max's like first thing.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: We were like, oh my god, we need that hammer, like immediately.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: Because even the other day, the other before I left to come to here, we were watching all the Marvel um films, uh, all the old ones, and it was so funny because the TV, because I've got my all my trophies like next to the TV, and the Thor hammer's there, and the Thor hammer was on the screen, and I was like, pause it! I was like, look, I've got the exact same.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, that's so funny.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then you reached out and you were worthy and it came straight to you.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, ah, yeah, literally it flew straight to me.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: It was I because I was worthy.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, this is cool.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: This is really, really cool.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: So um, but yeah, and then let's get to this one.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so this was this weekend, this past weekend.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, a really good um Roxana, to be fair.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like Roxanna looks really good, very good.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you, I have the same critique for her.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, make that front pose not look so forced in arch and she'll she's already killing it.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: She's already got a win, she's got multiple seconds, like she's pretty much solidified for the Olympia next year.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: The girl's like way the fuck up there already.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: Has she ever been to the Olympia?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Don't quote me on that, but I don't think so.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but she looks amazing, like nothing's missing.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and obviously she just took second to what sixth in the world.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, it doesn't get much better than that.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: Very, very good.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I've never heard of this girl, Jasmine, to be fair.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: So she and she looks really good to be fair.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, I don't know who this is.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: She's she has done a couple shows, she's done quite a few shows before.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, is this uh uh is this Kyimoto's client, I think.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not too sure.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I feel like I've seen her come across a couple times on the butt.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, okay.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well that makes sense too.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: I yeah.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: She got a pro card.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, she got a pro card recent.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, 2024.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: 2024.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: She was the overall Miss USA.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that might be where I recognize her from.
• 14:37
  unknown: Yeah.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she looks great.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: She looks very, very good.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: She looks really, really good on Sage and stuff.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: I remember her back pose was really good on that um the six of you there.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:44
  unknown: Yeah.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: She's got really nice, like lot, she's got longer tie, and so like that look really, really nice.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: So and then Cindy Cindy's been absolutely killing it.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: She's been meeting consistently this year and stuff like that, and she's been improving each time, which is cool to see.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: So um Renda's getting been right in that mix every show, too.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: She's always like teetering that third to fifth, third to sixth every show.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: So she was very close with fifth as well.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I think I think fifth is Emily, I want to say, and I met her at um check-ins, and I think this is her first Fit Model.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh not Fit Model.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: She this is actually.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was wellness.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: No, she was wellness pro, that's why.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why she did she did wellness, and now she's obviously gone to uh uh bikini.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: So she won last year in wellness.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if she did any um wellness pro shows though.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, she did, yeah, she did.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: So um but yeah, so I thought that was quite cool.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: So and she got fifth place there, so that's pretty good.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, that's awesome.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, really, really cool, really good lineup.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, really, really good lineup.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: And these girls were great backstage.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: The stage itself was really good.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: I like that stage a lot because I think I've done this setup before, I think it was um in uh the Iron Games 2021, I want to say, when it was in Anaheim.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: It might have been in like a different setting and stuff, but I've been to Anaheim before.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so it was cool, it was a really, really good show.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: So quick shout out to Sophie on there finishing out her pro debut.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, seven seven, eight, nine were only like two points apart from each other.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: So she was almost as high as seventh place.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I told her, like, that's you got top ten, you got to do a pro routine, and you almost like you were as high as being right there at seventh place.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you killed that shit.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, she had a great pro debut, finished off her season, and time to grow.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember she was like, I'm pretty sure, because I remember with the with the call-outs for this weekend, they kind of obviously me and Roxy were kind of or Roxana were the yeah, um, two they took off straight away.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember watching like first call-outs and stuff like that, and then second call-outs, and they were move.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: I think Sophie moved up quite.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: She was dead center of second call-out.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then you you and yeah, moved in more.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you and Roxana had your own two person, and then they did a third, fourth, fifth, and then they did five to ten, and they called Sophie in that, and she kept moving in and in and outside.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I remember seeing that because I remember that that call out specifically when they were trying to figure out kind of like 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's it.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it shows it right there when you look at 39, 41, 42.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's there was a big, big mix of the judges there.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so it was cool, it was cool to see, and I really liked it because again, it's always good for the girls to kind of like get good, really, really good looks, look at and stuff.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: So um and we got Mexico.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think Mexico.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: I so this was this was last week, yeah.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: That was last week.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: So that was last week.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: So this got posted.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: It just got posted now.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: It was almost Sarah that was uh that was this weekend.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this one was Philippines.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, this one as well, Philippines, yeah.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: This was Corinne that won, um, who she's also qualified as well, which is cool.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: So Corinne looked really good there.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Really, really good.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um her and Nataya both looked very, very good there.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can't remember what she did.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: This this show before.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: I can't remember which show this was.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: It was two weeks ago and it was her first pro win ever.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, first pro win, and then she qualifies again or gets another one to I couldn't remember, I think it was the Asian from what it looks like here, it's the Asian Grand Prix, uh Asian Grand Prix Pro.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's the one.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: I love that photo.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: I saw it and I was like, that's so cool.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's great.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um her cats look insane.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: She I'm trying to find a uh thingy of her online.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: I think that was the this was when she did um the Asian Grand Prix.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we watched it.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: We watched this one, yeah.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's got some very, very good density.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: She's improved a lot since like last year because she did New Zealand last year, and yeah, I proved a lot.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and again, she went up against Nataya and New Zealand.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say that's a very, very good Nataya second or a front post for second place.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good look.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: Very, very good.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: And these two obviously are Olymp uh just come off the Olympia stage.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: So did really, really good with um with this one.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it was really good.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think the lighting is always hard with the these these shows because you can't see as much, but you can see Corinne.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the top three are kind of clear, uh clear winners in in this one, or the top three are very different to the to the four fifths.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: For everyone that's watching this, not on Spotify, the the difference here because I've we've gotten so many comments about them wanting to like point out what we see.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Big thing here, because your eye typically would go to Nataya in second, because sharper tie-in, a little bit more conditioned, like you just like it's more appeasing to the eye, if you will.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: But when you look at Corine's back pose, look at that upper outer glute shelf.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, look how high her glutes sit while still in balance with her rear delts, with her um, with her overall hourglass frame, with her hamstrings.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing's overpowering at all.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's not just a tight glute show.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like she has really good glute shape, ties in perfectly with her hamstrings.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that is a very, very, very good back pose.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I was gonna say.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say with like obviously, yes, Natai has a little bit more um conditioning in the glutes, but you can see in the upper body here where she's pinching back.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: So she, like you said, she's not creating that hourglass shape as much as what Corinne is, which I even um Wooby here is creating a little bit more hourglass shape in the upper body.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like it's it's not just again, it's always not just the glute show.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's making sure that obviously the whole package is looked at across all posers.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um and also I know Corinne is a very good, I'm not saying anyone else is a good uh isn't a good poser, but Corinne is a very good poser on stage, really, really good poser.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, and it was same same again straight through.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: So um and then we had I don't think there's what show was that called it was um it was the Prague Pro.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't think there's a um there's not a uh photos for it yet.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: So we obviously looked at this and we thought, you know, these two will probably be it.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: And regardless, both of us kind of thought, you know, I'm sure Victoria will probably take it.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Again, this is why it doesn't matter like who you are or anything like that.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: It matters about what you look like, like on stage, like on the day.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: I saw, I think it was was there any other shots?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like there was more she came up a good amount in the last like week too, because didn't she just do a show where she was like fourth?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: Who?
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: I thought uh Sarah.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: No, this was her first show back.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: So was this her first show out?
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, so she meant someone else.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: So Sarah um Sarah did the um Arnold classic this year uh in March.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: So that was her last show that she did.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: She took time off, which granted actually not that much time off.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: If you think about it, obviously she needed to grow, she needed to improve.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: This was her this year in at Arnold.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: And again, not to say that it was a bad physique by any means, but from from this.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: To she comparatively to this with Victoria looks very, very, very good.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I think this was the video I saw, and I was like, wow, like again, objectively, I love Victoria, I love her shape, I love her like you know, size, everything like that.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: But Sarah looks very, very good, like in comparison.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, I personally here feel like, and I've I've said this about Victoria a few times.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Victoria is winning the back pose marginally, but she's very she's getting top heavy in her front pose.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it's not coming down.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: She needs to chill a little bit.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: I and I'm that's my opinion.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not speaking for the judges.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what her feedback is, but that's where my eye immediately goes.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: And just like with anyone, when it was your adductors, when it was Kerrigan's quads, that is where I'm looking right when I see her immediately.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: And just like the judges do.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Right when Kerrigan steps on stage, Tyler is looking to see if her quads are too much because he knows that that has been the feedback.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I keep seeing her shoulders being that like marginally bit too big, which on her physique can throw it off and make it look top heavy, I'm immediately looking there in her front pose, and I just keep seeing it.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like I can't not see it.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's it's a it's a difficult one because they're both very different, like very different.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: They've both got very, very good muscularity between the mix of them, but again, it comes down to what is more bikini overall as the the whole package versus it just being a glute show or an upper body show or whatever, or conditioning or whatever.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I think again, massive props to Sarah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like it was so cool to kind of see her come back um and very, very cool, you know, look absolutely fantastic.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: Again, Victoria is probably gonna get qualified this weekend or like another show because she's gonna keep going, I'm sure.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but this was a very, very good package for Sarah, which was cool.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: So um Oh, you know what I just thought about, off topic, kinda.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what did fourth and fifth place get point wise?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: What did Ashlyn and Amy get for Olympia?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, actually.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Go to the point standings.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: I want to see what they're doing.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because they haven't competed since.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: So, but is it the same thing?
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: It shouldn't be two and one.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it should be like Romania in New York.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like it should be like five or two.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, I think it is.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: I think it is.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's that, but I can't remember what it is.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, yeah, I didn't know if it was more.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um John, you gotta leave the current standings pinned.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: Where is it?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: There it is.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think, but I don't think he's updated.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's not this isn't an updated one.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but Ashland and that are.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: I said Amy.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: I meant um Laura, no, Laura Lee and Ashland should be somewhere in here.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Lorelie.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: So Lorely has 12.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: 12 points?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Fourth?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lot.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because remember Romania, Romania.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think that's even more than that though.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because okay, where's where's Ashland?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Does she have five?
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't actually know if she's in this.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Uh she has 10.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: Fifth place was worth 10 points.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: Damn.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's cool.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: And it's the same with Pittsburgh, and I think it's the same with New York as well as well, if I'm not mistaken.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I I think that's the the rankings there.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: So that's awesome.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was cool.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is really, really cool.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just randomly thought of that.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, how many did they get for that?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: But that's that's a lot of things.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't even think of that.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: So um, okay, so we just morally doesn't need points, but yeah.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: But also equally, like going back to what we were saying before, um, with Victoria, it was even the same with Men's Physique this weekend as well.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously at Prague Pro.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: I think um Emil Walker won um and beat Ben, who got to who just got 13th as well at the Olympia.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: So again, it it goes into the factor of it doesn't matter who you are or where you've placed, it matters about what you look, what looks best on that hour of that show.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: Literally the hour.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: I keep saying hour because it's so funny because everyone's like on that day.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, honestly, you could look better at finals.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about that hour.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: That's that literally 30 minutes you want to do.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that judging moment of 30 minutes, yes.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it also, like you just said, too, there's some physiques that, and this is just me being realistic, there's some physiques that are top 10, top 15 in the world physiques, like Victoria.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: And this, like this, doesn't mean that Sarah goes and beats her at the Olympia.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, Victoria will likely next Olympia still be top 15, if not top 10, uh, like continually to improve on her feedback.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: But that specific day, the judges saw Sarah is better.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Just like when Ashley Kay lost to um Kate Stacey like a year ago.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: And Ashley still went and got Ashley Stillwin got top five in the world, and Kate was like third call-outs at the Olympia.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's it, matters that day does not carry on to the next Olympia or even the next week for that matter.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: So well, it's the exact same as me going into the Olympia.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: For me, I was like, you know, Maria has had Maria beat me twice before going into the Olympia.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: Same with Ashley K.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: She'd beat me before.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I again it's I hate using the word beat because it's not like, but it is just that's just facts.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I I was over both of them at the Olympia.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's it doesn't matter who you are, where you've placed previously before, it all matters down or comes down to what you look like.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: So just like we talked about it when you were going into Southern Muscle and Ashley was on the list.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like realistically, you and I were talking together and we were like, Ashley could come in and win.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like if Ashley looks looks her best, if she's improved from the week before, she could come and beat you.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like it the week the week prior does not matter.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, exactly.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: So um, okay, so that's was that all the shows this weekend?
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, those were the three that were this week.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: So these are all the pro, these are all the bikini shows.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Bikini and Fit model shows this this week.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: So you've got Hurricane, you've got Brazil, Amateur Olympia, you've got New Zealand Pro.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: I forgot about New Zealand Pro.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's a good list too.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then you've got um Kentucky, Fit Pride, One Bro Pro, like there's a lap to get through.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: So let's do it.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: So the main one hurricane.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: The main one, Hurricane is the smallest.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: This this happens every single time, I s I swear.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's like the show, like Hurricane is renowned for being the show that's post-Olympia, has loads of people doing it, it's huge.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: Amy won it last year, like all these things, and it not saying no one's doing it, it's 12 girls.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's the most easiest probably destination to get to as well.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like Hurricane is Florida, so um, but you've got Roxana, um, you've got Julia, you've got Marza, Taylor's coming back, which is cool.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um you've got Catherine, who just took, I think fourth in yeah, fourth in Mexico.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she just did obviously this weekend as well.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, there's multiple people doing this.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Courtney Starr, who just literally um done three back-to-back shows as well.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, there's multiple people doing this, so it's gonna be cool to see again who they go for.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: Marza, uh Marza, Yulia, and uh Roxana, all very different physiques.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: So again, it'll be cool to be compared to that.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: And even Taylor, Taylor's coming back, she's obviously done um the Olympia as well, so it would be cool to see what she looks like now because I don't think she's competed since I think she did the Hurricane Pro last year.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: I think.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I think I can't remember.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it might it's been a good time since she's competed.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: So it'd be cool to kind of see what she's looking like now with the improvements and stuff.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, this is a good one.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is a very good one.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like like we just said, we named the the like our tentative top three, but any given day anybody can beat Massa, Yulia, or Roxanna, just because they've they're I mean, they're uh Yulia and Massa are Yulia's a multi-time Olympian.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Massa just made the Olympia.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Roxana has a win already in countless second places, I think two or three second places already on the board for this year.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, like that's that's our projected top three, but anything can happen.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: So exactly.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: The next one was the one that you warned me about.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: You were like, someone's gonna be on the list that you don't expect.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I immediately said, I was like, it's Vanya, it's Vanya, isn't it?
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: I told Vanya I wouldn't tell anyone she's doing it.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I'm not gonna tell anyone.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: So no, and it's funny because um when you said it like just before, I think she'd posted a physique update, and I was like, damn, she's looking really good.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, is she like I knew she's probably competing at some point, but again, no one knows what show.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: And when you said someone's probably gonna someone's gonna come onto the list that you don't know, side eyes, and I was like, Oh my god, is it Vanya?
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: And you just didn't reply, and I was like, it's Vanya, isn't it?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's Vanya.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: She looks like I sent that to you like an hour before the list was coming out, just to let you sit on it and be like, it's yeah, I was like, It's Vanya, it's Vanya.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: And you were like, Told you, I was like, Oh my god.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, this is a again, great lineup, and I it's the show I think that everyone then kind of is like, Oh, I'm gonna do Kentucky instead of Hurkin because Hurricane's gonna be busy, and now this one's the busiest one.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: So isn't this the isn't this the first ever too?
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: The Kentucky?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's Bill's show too.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: So just cool to see a new show.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a lot of people went to a lot of the inaugural shows this year.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it was like going to Houston Pro this year.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like Houston had its first pro show back in Houston in God knows how long, and they added Bikini Pro to it and getting to go to galvanize productions in Houston.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: It was such a badass like production, and I'm sure Bill's gonna be the exact same way.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like people go all out for the inaugural year.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be sick.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's gonna be really, really cool.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: So you've got obviously Vanya as the front runner, which I'm really intrigued to see what she looks like coming back, especially one under a new coach.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: Two, she's not been on stage since the Olympia.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, the Olympia, which was obviously uh, you know, a year ago.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: So it'll be cool to kind of see she's obviously had her turn.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that was like pre-back surgery because she was her back was messed up.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was like years and years of her just like like shrugging it off and finally had her operation done only in March or April this year, I think it was.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was April.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and she's already back to life.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like the the Vanya flow in her posing, able to hit her front pose with absolutely no issues.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, everything looks great.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I can't speak for her.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: We haven't talked past this show, but I will say that if she does a couple more, um, she's gonna get better and better each show.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like we it's it's gonna be one of those where I want her to run two or three shows because she's going to get better each one.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: She just needs to get back up there.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: And then you've got Savannah, who I think it'll be very, very cool to kind of see them, and even if I'm honest, Britney, those three.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's a good thing.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: Savannah and Britney are gonna be cool.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember I've seen them next to each other.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: The two of them are like very glute powerful in their back pose um and have very different styles of a front pose.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Savannah hits her front pose closer to how you do.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and Brittany's a little bit more like stiff, flared in the lat.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be interesting to see the two of them next to each other because they both have very like complete muscle groups.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be that that's a cool comparison.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then Vanya next to them is completely different.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, well, that's what I mean.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: All three of them are completely different.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I was thinking.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: Three different physiques, obviously, height-wise as well, muscularity-wise, like it'll be again, and this is why I like I like when I saw Vanya, I was like, Oh, this is gonna be interesting, it's gonna be interesting because one, we've not seen her on stage, but two, like the physiques are different.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's and it's it's cool to see a battle, you know.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's always fun to see a battle.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, and then you've got um Brenda's in here again.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and then you've got Cindy again.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um Cindy, again, we're seeing like the similar names.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: You've got uh jewels as well, um, who she's just she's just competed as well.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I want to shout out to Ashley Mince, who is my posing client, so that's gonna be fun to see her and how her routine looks.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, all these all these names, like all the girls um coming in, uh similar, like a lot of names we're seeing come up the same names, which I think is now we're gonna see is quite common because people need to get the points in and people need to keep running it until you know they're qualified and stuff.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it'd be cool.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Very cool.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then oh my god, Fit Pride is stacked.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: This one's super stacked.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: There's a huge name.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: How many, how many even is that?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: 32.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: 32.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's really, really big.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: And to be fair, again, it was and Fit Pride usually is quite a busy show anyway.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: But obviously, you had Prague Pro, who just that just happened.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: And again, that's usually one of the bigger shows.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that wasn't as as of a bigger show.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's like maybe it was maybe just on just under 20.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's like usually now, which I find that strange, like the bigger shows are becoming not less competitive by any means, but less there's less names going into these shows.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um I feel like with the point system, it's causing people, whether it be the athlete or the coach, to think strategically.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it's I don't want to say it's backfiring, it's just everybody's thinking that way.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: So when you look at when you typically think of Hurricane Pro, you go, okay, well, if we want to like, like, let's say that you have someone who's not a projected like top two person, like where you can just like if it's you, like you're not strategizing.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Phoebe, go do a show and fucking win.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: But if it's not someone that is like that caliber, if you will, you're kind of you're trying to strategize.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so you go, okay, Hurricane's probably gonna be stacked, like Maria might be doing it, Julia's gonna be in it, like the people that you would think would do it.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then you go, let's go to Kentucky instead.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: But everybody had that thought.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so now Hurricane's left with like a top two, top three that's like pretty solid, and everybody went to fucking Kentucky and fit parade here.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I think honestly, I know, and uh for me, I would say like I know strategy is everything, and especially with this, you've got to be strategic, but also try and like not just focus on strategy and it being like, just do the show, just get it done.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I think because sometimes it can it can be a case of like people then oh, like you said, overstrategize.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_02: And again, you don't know who's going to the show.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_02: So, like you could strategize and again everything be perfect in okay, cool, I'm gonna do this show and this, this, this, this, and then it'd be the busiest show of the year.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: You just don't know.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: I would say generally try and again focus on bringing your best physique, focus on making sure that you're hitting everything that needs to be done for bringing your best and enter the show with confidence versus it being like, cool, I'm just gonna try and move things around, if that makes sense, which it's easier said than done, you know.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, to me personally, a part of strategizing, like I think a lot deeper about it when I talk with some coaches and some athletes that I train about it, where I don't care who's in the show, like unless it's like coming down to the wire in August and you're trying to plan who's doing what to get your last points before the Olympia.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: But in a show like this weekend, I'd more so be like, okay, who already lives like in a in like the South or in the humid states?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're doing hurricane, because you're used to that humidity.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna send someone that lives in Las Vegas or Arizona and have them go and do hurricane because it's like when we if we have the choice to do that versus a show that's in more of a drier heat, that's gonna be much better for your body to not need to adjust to that and not have these variables that are thrown in that we don't have a clue about.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: So that's in my opinion, the deeper part of strategizing that not too many people think much about.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: They just think who's judging, who's doing it, which yes, matters, but at the same time, you gotta take other factors into account.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: But exactly obviously here, everybody overseas wanted to fucking do this show.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: So this show, this show specifically, everyone was like, Yep, I want to do this one.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you've obviously got Victoria, which is what I was mentioning before.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like, she's one of the front runners coming obviously into this, and she did win this show last year, yeah.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: At some point, yeah, I think it was maybe last year.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: She won Fit, she won um Prague Pro last year as well, but she might have done no actually was she?
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she she's won this, she's definitely won this show before.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: So, and then you've got Rainer, who is another one who's been very, very consistent in top five as well.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, it's funny how John literally is like, I'm not even reading what his caption's saying, and then I'm like, oh yeah, she's been very consistent.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's right there.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then yeah, you've got Octavia, you've got um Pata, Patricia, uh Patricia.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, you've got loads of um a lot of names here um in general.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of names, a lesson.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of names.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: You've got Zara um uh Sarah as well, and then there's some newer, newer pros I can see in here that I've not seen compete yet either.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, or like some pros that haven't um like Amelia from France, she's um I wanted to say she competed like last year or the year before that, and she's coming back now.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: So it's cool to see like new names coming.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: Where is uh where's Luxembourg?
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that was a country.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: Is that oh my god, I'm gonna sound so stupid right now.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: I swear that's Germany.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know where it's at, so you're not gonna sound stupid.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I just don't even have a clue.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: How do I even say Lux?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Lux um yeah, right there.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: Country in Europe, Europe, Dutch, wait, small land country bordered by Belgium, France, and Germany.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I said Germany.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I said that is dumb.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, Germany around that area, yeah.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I thought so.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, yeah.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: The only time I've ever heard Luxembourg before is um in the original Frosty the Snowman, when the guy is doing the train ticket and he's yelling all the cities and countries out, and he says Luxembourg.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's the only time I've ever heard that.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: Very, very, very specific.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's jokes.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then we've got Brazil.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: Brazil.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone that's doing the show is just from Brazil, which I feel like is always the way anyway, but I would love to actually go to Brazil.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because this is the amateur Olympia, isn't it?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: So um, because I'm pretty sure was it last year or the year before, maybe last year?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't um was it last year?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: This is this is the one where yes.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: This is the one where it's like Brazil's mini Olympia the past couple years.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like on the wellness side, like I think like Cass and Fran and a bunch of girls used to do it like immediately post Olympia, right after Olympia.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Vanya when he did it.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: Last year, two years ago.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's usually a very, very deep show.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but every single person on here is from Brazil.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um you've got Nivea, who obviously just got third with me and Ashley at Southern Mossel, and then I can't pronounce this name.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Bruna.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: Bruna.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh Bruna, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_02: She's has she got a win already?
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: Or did she get top four?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_02: She's not got a win, no.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: I think she did well, she one did the Olympia, and then she did Dominican Republic fourth, yeah.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: She got fourth there, I think.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: So that'd be cool to see how and how she looks and stuff like that.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then we've got again I'm just looking at the names that are the names that are mentioned.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: And then we're good as well.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's gonna be a good show.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: I always I like seeing um like different athletes and stuff like that from different areas of the world.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: Because again, like we don't as much as we don't know these athletes, it it's their opportunity to kind of get a little bit more known and obviously out there what what for competing and stuff.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: So that'd be that'd be cool to see.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um I need to learn who more of the Brazilian competitors are.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I feel like we just even over they don't have like a shit.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they don't have a shit ton of shows through the year, I feel like.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we only see like what two or three shows a year that are over there, and sometimes it's not even the girls from Brazil, and they're coming over here to some of the state shows.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: So being able to see a lineup like that and knowing that the entire top six posts that we're gonna see is all Brazilians, we get to look at next week is cool.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then last but not least, we've got New Zealand.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: This is a good lineup.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, front runner of is Kate Carroll, who's just competed.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, she obviously at the Olympia, we did the Olympia, and then what did she do before?
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_02: San Antonio?
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh San Antonio, yeah.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_02: San Antonio two weeks before the Olympia.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and also like I remember her mentioning before that that that wasn't her best look for San Antonio specifically, but then she did she brought a much better look to Olympia.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Olympia and became in so much leader, tighter, everything like that.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: So that's really again, really, really good.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, Sheena.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: Sheena.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, eight years.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: Sheena's been gone for eight years.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't realize it was that long.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was like four.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, she Sheena's done a couple of shows in the US this year.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think she did, oh god, what show did she do?
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: She did, I think she did Battle of the Bodies, and then she did another show.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: I can't remember which one it was.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: Back to uh Sasquatch.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_02: She did Sasquatch as well.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: And then she I again she hasn't done a New Zealand show for eight years.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, or she's been um she hasn't competed on yeah, was it eight years?
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: She hasn't yeah, she's back after not competing for eight years, so it's crazy.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: This will be good to be.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Lily had a couple good placings this year.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 100%.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_02: So Yeah, she's done she's done well, so I'm excited to kind of see how she's looking with just a little because she's obviously had a bit of time in between the last show that she did, um, before because I think these were the these she was doing shows before the Olympic off.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_02: So she's not done any shows since then.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: So that's good.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um how cool is it the judges that give the phone call that they get to go to uh they get to go to New Zealand for a show?
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like, oh yeah, I'll go, I'll go judge at New Zealand.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: So far, I forget how yeah, I forget how far that is.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: But it's so cool.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'd be taking a trip after that.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: You're in New Zealand, go to Australia, like so cool.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's gonna be uh is is very, very cool.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: So then you got the one Bro Pro.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's Fit Model.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: Is it OnlyFit Model?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's only Fit Model.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: So, bikini.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_02: No, that it's only Fit Model.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's cool, it's again, it's cool to see like the different girls coming in uh doing Fit Model and stuff like that.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: Because there's a couple girls on that list that have Fit model ones are free for all.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's a single there's not a single Olympian in that lineup.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know, and there's a couple there's a couple girls that obviously um did um that have done bikini previously before and switched to be uh fit model.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, it's gonna be cool.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: Right, what else was that?
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: That was it.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: One, two, three, four, five.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we got two.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't you have dinner right now or did you move it?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's at half six.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we're good then.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: 6 30.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I'm having before we go, before I go back to Dubai, we're gonna have a nice little dinner with Jamie, Greg, everyone, like have some good stay, good food.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be lovely, so I'm excited for that.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then that was it.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: Any any any questions that we've had at all?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I've gotten a few.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna save them for when we have uh like next week.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's a lot of shows next week.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, we're gonna cover these five, but I think that next weekend's shows are not as many, if I'm not mistaken.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was just looking at it too.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, again, we also appreciate everyone that has been absolutely loving the podcast because our uh comments, views, everything like that have been so up recently.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it's been cool to kind of see the comments that people have like been again.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: We like to have discussions.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_02: This is why we do the podcast because like people want to know more about the sport, know more about information that we're saying, and it's cool to kind of see that.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you guys for commenting, liking, subscribing, everything that needs a lot.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: So there's only one show next week.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow, okay, cool.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so natural pros, but only one open pro.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, put your questions down below, DM the stage talk page.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: You guys DM us directly too.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's perfectly fine.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: I've had a few from that that we have saved to do.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: Send over all the questions we want to know.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and yeah, we'll go from there.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you for watching as always, and we'll see you in the next one.