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Episode 199. What If Everything Is Geometry? | Melissa Tittl on ILLUSION · Wake Up with Miya

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Speaker 1: And the deeper you get into this space, no matter
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Speaker 1: what gateway you came through, whether it was aliens or spirituality,
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Speaker 1: or I just want to live a better life, or
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Speaker 1: I'm just really curious about Egypt, whatever gateway that was,
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Speaker 1: the deeper you go. You get to this point where're like,
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Speaker 1: where does this all come from? And why is it here?
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Speaker 1: And that leads you on all other paths. But for me,
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Speaker 1: since I've been on this path a long time, I
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Speaker 1: really wanted to go deeper. I really wanted to figure
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Speaker 1: out where do our beliefs come from? Because this is
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Speaker 1: the root of most of our suffering and most of
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Speaker 1: our confusion in this life, this human experience that we have.
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Speaker 1: And also why does any of this exist at all?
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Speaker 1: Because there's so many stories and then those stories turn
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Speaker 1: into belief systems of why anything exists. And so that's
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Speaker 1: kind of what this movie Illusion is really about, is
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Speaker 1: about kind of cracking that and going back to the
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Speaker 1: root of everything that exists all the time, everywhere.
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Speaker 2: Helloha, Melissa, and welcome to this show. You are a
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Speaker 2: producer of Hathors Studios, and I'm really glad to have
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Speaker 2: you here today, So thank you for taking the time
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Speaker 2: out of your busy schedule to talk with me and
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Speaker 2: to my listeners, and for those who may not be
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Speaker 2: familiar with you and your work, can you tell us
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Speaker 2: a little bit about yourself and what kinds of projects
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Speaker 2: you've been working on over the years, and what inspired
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Speaker 2: you to create this new documentary Illusion.
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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for having me, and hello
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Speaker 1: to everybody on your podcast. I've been working in the
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Speaker 1: space for a long time, say about twenty five years.
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Speaker 1: I've been writing about anything weird, so anything from you know,
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Speaker 1: I worked with NASA for a while to I was
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Speaker 1: one of the beginning producers of Ancient Aliens back in
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Speaker 1: the day on History Channel. No one knows what that is. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I've investigated about stuff in the paranormal
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Speaker 1: space and then meditation and spirituality. I was had content
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Speaker 1: Forgot for Guya for about five and a half years.
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Speaker 1: Ancient civilizations have been all over the world for supernatural
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Speaker 1: experiences or for just discovering different civilizations and how they
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Speaker 1: connect together. And then I started my own company, Hathler Studios,
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Speaker 1: kind of disenchanted with working in Hollywood for a long time,
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Speaker 1: and then also worked at Guya for a while, and
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Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, I want to create my
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Speaker 1: blend of entertainment and film understanding of how to do
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Speaker 1: and make film and TV with these new concepts that
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Speaker 1: I would love to get out in the world. And
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Speaker 1: that's where Hafler Studios is born. And this new movie,
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Speaker 1: this is our third movie. Actually, this movie is an
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Speaker 1: investigation that started several years ago, many years ago, but
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Speaker 1: I finally kind of started to put the pieces together
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Speaker 1: during twenty twenty and I filmed a movie called Code twelve,
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Speaker 1: which I released in twenty twenty three. And when I
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Speaker 1: ended that film, I mean, I'm not in kidding you.
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Speaker 1: I drove off into the sunset with my Mustang and
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to figure out the answer.
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Speaker 1: You know. It was very cinematic and cool that didn't
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Speaker 1: let the audience going okay. So this movie kind of
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Speaker 1: picked up where those pieces left off. I found the
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Speaker 1: pattern in the universe that kept repeating what did it mean?
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Speaker 1: Does it it? Does it mean that we live in
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Speaker 1: a matrix? Or you know, some of these big questions.
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Speaker 1: So I started that the movie started out that way
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Speaker 1: and ended up in kind of this revelation of some
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Speaker 1: actual bigger things that we all question and the deeper
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Speaker 1: you get into this space, no matter what gateway you
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Speaker 1: came through, whether it was alien or spirituality, or I
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Speaker 1: just want to live a better life, or I'm just
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Speaker 1: really curious about Egypt, whatever gateway that was, the deeper
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Speaker 1: you go. You get to this point where're like, where
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Speaker 1: did this all come from? And why is it here?
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Speaker 1: And that leads you on all other paths. But for me,
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Speaker 1: since I've been on this path a long time, I
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Speaker 1: really wanted to go deeper, and I really wanted to
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Speaker 1: figure out where do our beliefs come from? Because this
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Speaker 1: is the root of most of our suffering and most
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Speaker 1: of our confusion in this life, this human experience that
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Speaker 1: we have. And also why does any of this exist
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Speaker 1: at all? Because there's so many stories and then those
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Speaker 1: stories turn into believe systems of why anything exists. And
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Speaker 1: so that's kind of what this movie Illusion is really about,
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Speaker 1: is about kind of cracking that and going back to
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Speaker 1: the root of everything that exists all the time everywhere.
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Speaker 2: You know, those are great questions, absolutely, I think everyone
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Speaker 2: has those questions. From your trailer, one thing that stood
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Speaker 2: out to me was the focus on geometry, ancient sites
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Speaker 2: repeating patterns, what drew you to explore that in this film.
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Speaker 1: There's one point when I was making this film where
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Speaker 1: I'm like, do I just get really crass and sort
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Speaker 1: of fun with the fact that that there's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of like a chip on my shoulder with the
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Speaker 1: spiritual communities. Sometimes there feels like there's a little bit
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Speaker 1: we're overdoing it with the frequency talk and the sacred
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Speaker 1: geometry and the ancient sites, and and by the way,
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Speaker 1: I'm all interested in this stuff. So what I wanted
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Speaker 1: to do was not say that anybody is wrong, because
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Speaker 1: it's not true. Everybody in its own right is right.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get a new perspective on the existence
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Speaker 1: of sacred geometry, what it really means, where does it
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Speaker 1: come from, and the existence of not sacred geometry. You know,
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Speaker 1: nobody talks about that. We're always just focused on sacred geometry.
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Speaker 1: We're not focused on other geometries that are not sacred.
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Speaker 1: Why though true port in our lives? And also why
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Speaker 1: why we are connected to some of these ancient locations
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Speaker 1: besides the fact that they're magical and there's lots of
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Speaker 1: interesting energy there and the ancients definitely knew something, But
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Speaker 1: what did they know? What were they actually connected to.
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Speaker 1: And so I just this movie was really kind of
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Speaker 1: like a love letter at the beginning of saying, let's
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Speaker 1: from a different perspective, just just take our little gaze
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Speaker 1: over here, look at the same things that we've been
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Speaker 1: talking about for I don't know, the last fifty years.
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Speaker 1: Lots of people have been talking about the stuff, and
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Speaker 1: let's just look at it from a different angle so
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Speaker 1: that you can understand it a little bit more in
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Speaker 1: a deeper way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, awesome. One of the big ideas in A
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Speaker 2: Lion is that people did not people do not all
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Speaker 2: have to think in the same order to live in harmony.
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Speaker 2: What made that such an important idea to explore in
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Speaker 2: that in in your film?
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Speaker 1: M thank you for asking this question. I think there's
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Speaker 1: a misconception. And we do this as humans because we
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Speaker 1: really just want to understand and and by the way,
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Speaker 1: I'm human, so I get to conclusions conclusions faster, uh,
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Speaker 1: because at some point you're like, I just want to
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Speaker 1: know the answer so I feel better about my existence.
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Speaker 1: But there's this concept of unity that I think is false.
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Speaker 1: And I address this in a very poetic way, not
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Speaker 1: a direct way, because I don't want to say that
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Speaker 1: anybody's beliefs are wrong, but it's just a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a miscommunication. I think in the people that I interview,
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Speaker 1: I interview some quantum physicists, I interview some spiritual teachers.
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Speaker 1: I have researchers, I have people that channel, and then
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Speaker 1: I have Harvard scientist. You know, I got the whole
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Speaker 1: spectrum of people, and I think what everybody can agree
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Speaker 1: with is that there is some singularity. I will use
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Speaker 1: the word singularity where everything exists there, all the time, everywhere,
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Speaker 1: all at once, all on top of each other, all
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Speaker 1: is one but the moment any energy. We'll try to
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Speaker 1: make this visual. Any piece of energy decides that it
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Speaker 1: wants to do anything, like any decision. Just think about
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Speaker 1: how many decisions you make in a day. If that
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Speaker 1: piece of energy wants to be a tree or a fox,
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Speaker 1: or a human or female, or like any decision, it's
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Speaker 1: complete separation from the one. So what we are doing
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Speaker 1: is we are having a human experience as all these
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Speaker 1: different separations of the one. And the goal is not
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Speaker 1: to become one, because we're going to become one once
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Speaker 1: we return all of our energy back to singular. Already,
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Speaker 1: purpose of existence is to reflect back the existence of
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Speaker 1: your separation to the one, so the one can experience
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Speaker 1: itself from a different view, and that could be anything
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Speaker 1: around you. You know, the plants, trees, the air, you
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Speaker 1: know all these elements that we talked to. Yes, at
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Speaker 1: one point we are all one. But in this separation,
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Speaker 1: it is a beautiful thing because you can say to
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Speaker 1: the plants of the trees and to your fellow humans,
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Speaker 1: yes we come from the same space, but our separation
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Speaker 1: is beautiful. And I think if we really honor that
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Speaker 1: in a way of thinking, Okay, if my separation is
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Speaker 1: beautiful and your separation is beautiful, then how do we
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Speaker 1: co exist together in a beautiful piece of which we
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Speaker 1: are all reflecting the one, in a coexistence that I
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Speaker 1: know my contribution and you know your contribution, and nature
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Speaker 1: knows this contrayribution, and we are living in harmony and
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Speaker 1: join the separation. We have this longing as humans to
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Speaker 1: return back home. But the purpose of your decision making
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Speaker 1: when you turn from energy to a decision and that separation,
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Speaker 1: was that you could experience the One from a different
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Speaker 1: point of view. So the only thing you're returning to
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Speaker 1: is your original expression that you decided at the very beginning.
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Speaker 1: What happens when you come here in this human experience
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Speaker 1: is you just listen to everybody else and you get
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Speaker 1: inundated with the information and propaganda, and you come up
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Speaker 1: with all sorts of stories and ideas of what you
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Speaker 1: think you came here to express. And the hardest thing
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Speaker 1: to do is to really the oldest saying in the book,
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Speaker 1: know thyself, Know thyself, and know that your separation is beautiful.
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Speaker 1: And because of that separation, the one is expressing itself
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Speaker 1: through you. And that is the contribution to your human race,
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Speaker 1: to your community, to your families, to nature. And those
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Speaker 1: are the things that I really want to tell people.
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Speaker 1: We get so caught up on this either being separated
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Speaker 1: and pointing out that we're separated, or that we should
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Speaker 1: all hold hands in sing Kumbayah, which neither of these
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Speaker 1: camps work. They just don't work, and we're showing that
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Speaker 1: over and over again. So there must be a middle
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Speaker 1: place of which this beautiful understanding could be co opt
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Speaker 1: by all of us. That's the point, Hopefully beautifully said.
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Speaker 2: Melissa beautifully said. I know one of your earlier projects,
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Speaker 2: called the Code twelve, you explored the mathematical patterns tied
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Speaker 2: to reality where it kept coming up over and over
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Speaker 2: again the twelve. Is there any connection between that earlier
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Speaker 2: work and what you're exploring an illusion.
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Speaker 1: With Code twelve. Yes. So one of the things that
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Speaker 1: I point out in Code twelve is that I was
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Speaker 1: able to map out in every spiritual text, every mythology,
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Speaker 1: every human story about the gods, the goddess, the universe,
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Speaker 1: you know, even quantum physics. To be honest with you,
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Speaker 1: are our set skies of the zodiac was all correlated
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Speaker 1: to this number of twelve. And in the center of
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Speaker 1: all these stories, these spiritual texts all over the world,
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Speaker 1: no matter how old they were two thousand and four thousand,
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Speaker 1: ten thousand years ago, they're all all had the components
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Speaker 1: of twelve, the structure of twelve, twelve gods, twelve goddesses,
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Speaker 1: twelve apostles. The center point of that story is always
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Speaker 1: a prophet or a leader or Jesus right the thirteenth.
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Speaker 1: And I thought that's really odd. So I just started
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Speaker 1: exploring it, and I started to say, look at this
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Speaker 1: and this and this, this is so weird. Why do
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Speaker 1: these ancient people keep telling us stories with these components?
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Speaker 1: Unless it was an important structure to understand in the universe,
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Speaker 1: not to memorize the names of the twelve people, but
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Speaker 1: to understand the twelve nights of the roundtable were part
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Speaker 1: of a structure that allowed for transformation, that allowed for illumination,
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Speaker 1: an understanding of complete power, and the thirteenth being the
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Speaker 1: way through or to change that power.
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Speaker 2: So you kind of touched on it right there. But
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Speaker 2: when you look at the geometry, the alignments, the acoustics,
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Speaker 2: the repeating patterns found in across ancient times and sites,
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Speaker 2: what do you think they were trying to tell us
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Speaker 2: have what have? What have we lost today? That something
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Speaker 2: that they knew back then? They understood something obviously.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you brought it something up really important with that's
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Speaker 1: an illusion about sound. Again, there's all this talk about frequency,
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Speaker 1: and that's a real thing. And you know, even this
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Speaker 1: conversation right now has a certain vibration or frequency going
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Speaker 1: on between it, or like how you're listening to my
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Speaker 1: voice is a frequency of vibration. But how we understand
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Speaker 1: that in this three D reality gets translated into sound
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Speaker 1: and what sound, music or even different tones are always
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Speaker 1: in twelve right twelve ton musical system. And so here
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Speaker 1: you have a mapping of everything from science to geometry, geometry.
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just talk about the five platonic solids,
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Speaker 1: Plato's five platonic solids. The fifth platonic solid is a dodecahedron,
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Speaker 1: which is a twelve sided, ancient sacred structure that's supposed
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Speaker 1: to be ether. It's supposed to be every right. So
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Speaker 1: we have this from the quantum world all the way
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Speaker 1: down to our twelve tone musical system. And this is
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Speaker 1: how we hear and vibrate, and this is how we
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Speaker 1: translate all those frequencies in the universe everybody's talking about
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Speaker 1: that are invisible, and then they get translated into sound
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Speaker 1: into a twelve tone musical system. And if you think
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Speaker 1: about the twelve tone musical system, about what I was
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Speaker 1: just talking about before, when I was saying that there's
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Speaker 1: a misunderstanding about unity and separation and how separation is beautiful.
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Speaker 1: In a twelve tone musical system, all those notes do
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Speaker 1: not sound the same. If they sounded the same, they
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Speaker 1: actually couldn't create a twelve ton musical system, and that
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't have any range. There won't be an expression,
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Speaker 1: There just be one tone. And that's not what the
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Speaker 1: separation of those different tones are together, they create beautiful music.
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Speaker 1: So if you think about these mysterious vibrations and frequencies
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Speaker 1: what he's always talking about, and you just you funnel
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Speaker 1: them in your head right now down to music and
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Speaker 1: that there's twelve tones, and there's different tones that go
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Speaker 1: together to create different beautiful notes and song and music
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Speaker 1: and also just activation tones in your body. This is
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Speaker 1: the language of the universe, and it again is coded
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Speaker 1: in a twelve system, right, but this is how we communicate.
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Speaker 1: This is everything. And even if you couldn't speak, if
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Speaker 1: you didn't have the ability to speak, you could still
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Speaker 1: feel the vibrations of that twelve tone musical system, because
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Speaker 1: this is how we pick up the universal structures into
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Speaker 1: our body, into this three D reality. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Was there a moment during your filming when you realize
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Speaker 2: that this project was becoming bigger than you originally? I did.
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Speaker 1: Oh other show? Okay, I did say at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of the podcast, I am definitely human and these things
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Speaker 1: that I've been rattling around in my brain, I've been
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Speaker 1: studying and researching and trying to translate and bring it
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Speaker 1: to you guys. Well, you know, I had my own
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Speaker 1: issues going on at the same time, my own understanding
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Speaker 1: of my body, my existence, my purpose, all this stuff happening.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to make this movie, and for some reason,
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Speaker 1: this movie just would not let itself be born until
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Speaker 1: I really embodied what I was saying. And it wasn't
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Speaker 1: a moment in an interview where somebody said something more
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Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, this is it. This is off the rails.
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Speaker 1: It was something that was happening internally inside of me
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Speaker 1: where I was like, wow, but if this is true
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Speaker 1: and I am saying it and I am putting it
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Speaker 1: into a documentary, that I have to like really embody it.
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Speaker 1: I have to start to think about everything around me
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Speaker 1: and these and these relic notes and geometry, and to
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, and this is everything. This is
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Speaker 1: this is every person. This is every person who's doing
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Speaker 1: any kind of creative project or just existing on a
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Speaker 1: daily level. It is really you that you were the
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Speaker 1: instrument that's playing the reality. And so here I was
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Speaker 1: writing this and my instrument was out of tune, like
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Speaker 1: completely out of tune, like I was not in tune
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Speaker 1: with the things that I was putting together. And it
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Speaker 1: was it was painful, but the minute, I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is me. I have to embody it. And when
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Speaker 1: I embodied it, I thought, wow, it is much bigger
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Speaker 1: because it's it's not about the information as a producer writer,
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Speaker 1: especially in this space, and like, I got I get
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Speaker 1: this information out there. I gotta get it out there.
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Speaker 1: I got to show people, you know, but it's not
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Speaker 1: it's really it's really just about being human and we
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Speaker 1: are all representations of someone else's journey, although different, there's
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Speaker 1: pieces of that. They were like, oh yeah, I get that.
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Speaker 1: I know what that feels like or that resonates with me,
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Speaker 1: and that's all we're doing. And that that was the
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Speaker 1: moment where I'm like, wow, Okay, it's not about the information,
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Speaker 1: although the information is really cool, It's really about the
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Speaker 1: expression on a deeper level of what it means to
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Speaker 1: be human.
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Speaker 2: Oh and you have a fascinating range of voices in
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Speaker 2: this film. Who are some of the featured guest people,
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Speaker 2: Well hear on illusions when they listen to this.
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Speaker 1: We have Mantiaste Stefano, who is really if you don't
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Speaker 1: know who he is, he channels a lot of information
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Speaker 1: from the universe. We have Greg Braiden written a million
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Speaker 1: books and done so much research on ancient cultures and
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Speaker 1: civilizations and the matrix. Actually doctor Sue Mortar, who's done
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Speaker 1: a lot of amazing work with the body and meditation
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Speaker 1: and these different energy centers and how they actually correlate
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Speaker 1: to this twelve tone musical system that I'm just I
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Speaker 1: was just talking about Abby Love if you're into science
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Speaker 1: or Abbi Love is a Harvard astrophysicist who kind of
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Speaker 1: came on the scene because he was investigating an unusual
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Speaker 1: anomalist finding in the universe and kind of got wrapped
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Speaker 1: up in are we alone type of stuff, And then
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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of researchers like Tyler Ingele if
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Speaker 1: you don't know who that is. He's on Instagram a
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Speaker 1: lot as bass Forge, and he's uncovered a lot of
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Speaker 1: really cool sacred geometry patterns and simatic patterns, a lot
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Speaker 1: of these temples, meaning that these ancient cultures were in
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Speaker 1: touch with these origin relic geometries from the very beginning
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Speaker 1: of the universe. The big bang happens, boom, everything that
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Speaker 1: we exist as consciousness existed at that moment into the
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Speaker 1: shape of these geometries. And so he's finding a lot
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Speaker 1: of that in these structures and they coded it exactly
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Speaker 1: to mirror some of those relic geometries in space. Beta Austin,
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Speaker 1: who talks a lot about geometry and mirror expressions in
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Speaker 1: water based on our intentions and our emotions. She's in
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Speaker 1: the documentary and so many other people.
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Speaker 2: I know, you have some amazing voices. I can't wait.
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Speaker 2: Do you think people are actually searching for truth or
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Speaker 2: are most people really just looking forward reassurance that what
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Speaker 2: they you know, what they already believe is right.
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Speaker 1: You know, truth is just a perception. There is no
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Speaker 1: one truth. There's many truths. I think that people are
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Speaker 1: really looking for like, wow, that's a lot, there's so
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Speaker 1: much out there, but what does it all mean? I
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Speaker 1: think we're really at this point right now. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of people in their silos talking about their art
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Speaker 1: their work, and that's amazing. But at some point, when
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Speaker 1: you're on this journey, you're like, but how does it
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Speaker 1: all come together? And how am I involved in all
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Speaker 1: of that? Like how does it change my life or
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Speaker 1: make me on my path in a better way? So
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Speaker 1: I really think that's what people need right now. They're
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Speaker 1: they're really like, Okay, but how does it all work together,
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Speaker 1: and because there's so much information, we're in information overload
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Speaker 1: right now, and I think that's what Illusion attempts to do,
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Speaker 1: is put together all the pieces of the puzzle into
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Speaker 1: not the truth, but a new perspective of all the
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Speaker 1: truths that exist. Awesome.
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Speaker 2: Is there anything about the film we haven't touched on
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Speaker 2: yet that you think people should know before they watch it?
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Speaker 1: M let's see, there's a lot. It's like, where can
23:28
Speaker 1: we go? Where can we go with this one? There's
23:32
Speaker 1: a really interesting perspective that I just want people to
23:36
Speaker 1: wrap their head around. And some people when we did
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Speaker 1: this premiere in Austin, there was like two hundred people
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Speaker 1: that got to view it for the first time, so
23:42
Speaker 1: I kind of got to hear feedback from the first
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Speaker 1: two hundred people that saw it, and something really got it.
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Speaker 1: They were like, this is so cool. I understand this,
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Speaker 1: and some people are like, I don't know. That's But
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Speaker 1: what I really really want to point out is that
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Speaker 1: it's really hard to define where a belief comes from
24:03
Speaker 1: if you're just explaining things from a story point of view,
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Speaker 1: because at the end there's still another story, Like you're
24:10
Speaker 1: never really going to get to the root of it.
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Speaker 1: It's just going to be another story and another story,
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Speaker 1: another story. This is something I found because I read
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Speaker 1: all these episodes and or have and so as I
24:20
Speaker 1: got deeper into this research, I found out that, you know,
24:23
Speaker 1: talking to a lot of are Harvard astrophysicists and other
24:26
Speaker 1: astrophysicists and people that work for NASA and people that
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Speaker 1: have done lots of research. And then of course, the
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Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum is that at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, those beliefs are not necessarily things that
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Speaker 1: we define in our three D reality. They are connected
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Speaker 1: to the minute the Big Bang happened, these relic geometries
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Speaker 1: that exist in space time, and those geometries, as evolution happened,
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Speaker 1: became cont sciousness. So that means that if we go
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Speaker 1: back to our little singularity talk that in the singularity
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Speaker 1: of everything all at once, all the time, what it
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Speaker 1: really is is just geometry. And so when you're separating
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Speaker 1: yourself as a specific geometry. I am a female, my
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Speaker 1: name's gonna be Melissa. I'm gonna have brown hair and
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Speaker 1: green eyes, and I'm gonna have a lot of you know, trouble,
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. They have all the calculations that those
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Speaker 1: are actually geometries. Those are I am one geometry shape.
25:44
Speaker 1: Everything about me is a geometry shape. Now that's kind
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Speaker 1: of hard to grasp. Really, Okay, that's I guess that's cool,
25:49
Speaker 1: But I don't really know how that works. So if
25:51
Speaker 1: you're about to watch this film, I want you to
25:55
Speaker 1: sit back and just go on the journey and just
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Speaker 1: take it in. If it doesn't resonate, that's okay. But
26:03
Speaker 1: we really prove through science how what you're downloading is
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Speaker 1: geometry into your mind and that geometry gets flipped into
26:13
Speaker 1: an actual image that already exists that's attached to that geometry.
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Speaker 1: Whether you're looking at a house, I'm looking at you,
26:21
Speaker 1: I'm in my house, I'm talking to people that I love.
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Speaker 1: And you know what I love about this revelation is
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Speaker 1: that it doesn't when you talk about the matrix. What
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Speaker 1: it does is it suggests that everything is not real.
26:38
Speaker 1: And that's really disturbing even if you believe that, because
26:42
Speaker 1: that means the people you love aren't real and the
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Speaker 1: people that love you aren't real. You know, like that's
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Speaker 1: a little and that always bothered me. And so to
26:51
Speaker 1: think about the fact that everything is real, but its
26:54
Speaker 1: origin point is just a geometry means that your love,
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Speaker 1: things that you enjoy, the things that you don't enjoy.
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Speaker 1: All of that is real. The illusion is that what
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Speaker 1: it really is is that we don't know. We just
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Speaker 1: think it's a belief for a story, and that that
27:13
Speaker 1: is the illusion is the belief around the thing that
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Speaker 1: you are interpreting rather than what it really is. And
27:19
Speaker 1: at any moment you could change it. You can change
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Speaker 1: that geometry, and that's what you're doing. If you're meditating
27:25
Speaker 1: or you have a spiritual experience, you got to retreat
27:29
Speaker 1: or you recalculate yourself with the spontaneous healings you hear
27:32
Speaker 1: about all over the world and for different modalities. Is
27:35
Speaker 1: that you're changing your geometry into a more desirable state
27:41
Speaker 1: or something that is more pleasurable for you. So everything
27:45
Speaker 1: is real. The illusion is that we don't have control
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Speaker 1: over it, and that it's that it's not really what
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Speaker 1: it is that you think it is. It's something else,
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Speaker 1: and it can easy will be replaced or repopulated into
28:03
Speaker 1: a different geometry shape. I love it. I love it.
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Speaker 2: Oh my God, great way to end, Melissa, Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much for taking the time to you know, to
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Speaker 2: tell us about your new film coming out, Illusion. But
28:16
Speaker 2: before we close out, please tell everyone how they can
28:20
Speaker 2: watch Illusion, what are the free viewing dates, and anything
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Speaker 2: else they need to know so they won't miss this.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so we're doing something pretty special. We're giving
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Speaker 1: away the movie for forty eight hours for free July
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Speaker 1: twenty fourth through the twenty six.
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Speaker 3: Only.
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Speaker 1: July twenty fourth through twenty six, forty eight hours free.
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Speaker 1: Sign up, you'll be in the queue, you will get
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Speaker 1: a link, and you get to watch the movie for
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Speaker 1: free forty eight hours July twenty fourth through the twenty six.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome, Melissa. Thank you so much for joining me today.
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time and this was such an
28:56
Speaker 2: interesting conversation, so thank you. Wishing you the best with
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Speaker 2: Illusion and the upcoming release. Thank you. Thanks guys for listening,
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Speaker 2: and I'll see you on the next one.
29:12
Speaker 1: AFU hop.
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Speaker 3: Back him up? I don't say again, so locking yap,
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Speaker 3: twitting my friend into again? Tell me? Is it too soon? Uncle?
29:30
Speaker 3: Pick them up? Crazy?
29:34
Speaker 4: I know Uesday, J're not afraid to dub it just stomping,
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Speaker 4: nothing too booze.
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Speaker 3: But I'm not away. Take them a sweet time.
29:50
Speaker 4: I don't want to be no one sur cry.
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Speaker 3: Uncle break him on. I don't know so I'm walking yea,
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Speaker 3: sweating my father into again? Tell me? Is it too soon? Uncle?
30:13
Speaker 3: Making all going crazy over nice?
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Speaker 4: Say shay when you walk into the room, okay, things straight,
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Speaker 4: there's no one like you.
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Speaker 3: But how long in the chase it's feeling away? You
30:33
Speaker 3: don't walk away from this tonight. I'm a with you.
30:38
Speaker 3: Those in my coat breaking most. I don't hush they
30:42
Speaker 3: get so. I don't like openly up tweeting my phone
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Speaker 3: into making most. I don't mean I'm saying so.
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Speaker 5: Walking yea, sweating my father into okay, I got you
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Speaker 5: so many as it too soon? It was Nick going crazy.
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Speaker 3: Crazy. I'm crazy.
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Speaker 5: I'm crazy over crazy, going crazy crazy over.
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Speaker 3: Called. I don't mean I'm sicking so ok yea