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The Puca: Shapeshifting Goblins & Invisible Friends · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Jessica Jones. I'm the Cryptid Huntress. Welcome into
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  Speaker 1: the show tonight. Thank you guys so much for being here.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: We're about to go on the hunt for the puka. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the pooka. This is this is new to me. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's new to me, but I am so stoked. This
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  Speaker 1: is I love looking into new cryptids. Uh, paranormal stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna go down a great big rabbit hole tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I have doctor John Stamy here in the studio with me.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight We're gonna not only talk about the Pooka, We're
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  Speaker 1: also talking about the tulpa. And has your kid ever
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  Speaker 1: had an invisible friend? If Jared Kid, if anyone you know,
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  Speaker 1: it couldn't. It didn't have to be kids either. You
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  Speaker 1: all know those movies like Donnie Darko, you know, where
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  Speaker 1: they have an invisible friend or an imaginary friend. It's
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  Speaker 1: all connected to this is what we're talking about tonight.
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  Speaker 1: he has too much to talk about tonight, and and
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  Speaker 1: so do I. We always have a fantastic conversation every
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  Speaker 1: time he comes on. The last time you guys saw
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  Speaker 1: him was on Space Out Radio, uh, and we talked
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  Speaker 1: about the Tulpa. If y'all remember what the tulpa is.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're gonna talk about the tulpa tonight because it
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  Speaker 1: does relate to the pukah. I love that word. The
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  Speaker 1: Pooka's no joke too.
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  Speaker 2: This is no joke.
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  Speaker 1: This is a These are I'm gonna say, I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, pesky, Okay. They're tricksters and they can shape
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  Speaker 1: shift into different animals. Hold on, I'm gonna read it, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't leave anything out. So they are shape
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  Speaker 1: shifting at pooka. They're they're spelled in like four or
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  Speaker 1: five different ways, the pooka, the puka, the pooka or
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  Speaker 1: the pooka. Okay, you gotta go look at the description
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  Speaker 1: box for all the spellings. But it's a captain figure
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  Speaker 1: in Irish mythology. It's also Scandinavian and these things are
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  Speaker 1: all over the world actually, but Irish mythology known for
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  Speaker 1: its shape shifting abilities and mischievous nature. It can take
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  Speaker 1: a variety of forms, often appearing in different animals such
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  Speaker 1: as horses, goats, cats, dogs, and rabbits. Regardless of its form,
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  Speaker 1: the puka is typically portrayed as dark or black. The
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  Speaker 1: creatures are not inherently evil, but they are tricksters by nature.
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  Speaker 1: Tells of them go back centuries in art and literature
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  Speaker 1: from the character. I don't know if it was before this,
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  Speaker 1: but I know that Shakespeare had a character named Puck
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  Speaker 1: and it was a little elf, and it was in
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  Speaker 1: Midsommer's Night's Dream. Okay, it's in that, and so that's
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  Speaker 1: where that's where it started, I guess, or it's probably
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  Speaker 1: before that. But then modern day movies. By modern day
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  Speaker 1: I do mean the nineteen fifties and the two thousands
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  Speaker 1: that they had a movie called and then there was
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  Speaker 1: Donnie Darko. Ooh, y'all know Donnie Darko. That's a good movie.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna get into all that. Doctor
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  Speaker 1: John Steam he has always had an interest in the
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  Speaker 1: pair of normal. He runs a number of comic cons
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  Speaker 1: as well as Bigfoot, Lizard Man, and UFO festivals and conferences.
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  Speaker 1: my friend, doctor John Stamey.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Jessica. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I am amazing. I'm really good. I'm I got drenched
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  Speaker 1: wile ago, so I just came in from outside. We're
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  Speaker 1: having really bad storms here in Georgia today and but
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm. I swam back to the house, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you well? That's great, I'm doing well. And
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say I've got to make a public
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  Speaker 2: service announcement to get ready for the show tonight. I
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  Speaker 2: rented from Paramount for three dollars and ninety five cents,
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  Speaker 2: hardly starring Jimmy Stewart, and I have got to say
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  Speaker 2: I had forgotten just how wonderful. That is in the
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  Speaker 2: category of it's a wonderful life in two thousand and one.
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  Speaker 2: It's just unbelievably wonderful. And if you got four dollars tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: go rent it. It'll make you feel good. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's it's always great to have a wonderful, feel
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  Speaker 2: good movie. We're not going to tell how it ends,
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  Speaker 2: but it ends the way I like it, and it ended.
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  Speaker 2: So it's all about the Pookah.
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  Speaker 1: The pooka. And you know a lot of people, this
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  Speaker 1: is gonna unlock some fear in some people, because not
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  Speaker 1: everybody is real excited about seeing a bunny rabbit like
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  Speaker 1: the Easter Bunny. When we used to go get our
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  Speaker 1: pictures made with the Easter Bunny, they had some sinister
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  Speaker 1: Easter bunnies that we I myself had to I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to, but I did. I sat in the Easter
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  Speaker 1: Bunny's lamp and got my picture made as a kid,
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  Speaker 1: and they were terrifying looking. Okay, So and that's what
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  Speaker 1: this thing, that's what this thing is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's what it is. A lot of times,
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  Speaker 2: or many times, apparently, in Irish mythology, the puka was
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  Speaker 2: a trickster horse. Now that is a great picture of
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy Stewart standing there with his with his hookah buddy Harvey.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, and you know I got I've got
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  Speaker 2: a great buddy Harvey. I got to call him tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: and encourage him and his wife they're down in Charleston,
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  Speaker 2: to go watch Harvey. It's a great movie. And there
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  Speaker 2: it is unless some more Jimmy Stewart. It's really funny.
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  Speaker 2: You never really see the pookah, the six and a
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  Speaker 2: half foot tall rabbit. You never really see it in
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  Speaker 2: the movie. But it turns out everybody seems to have
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  Speaker 2: seen that. If they've been around the Jimmy Stewart character,
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  Speaker 2: l would be dowd for years. Everybody seems to know
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  Speaker 2: what it is and it seem to have seen it.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I like about it. It's just everybody's
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  Speaker 2: so upset, but then really they don't have anything to
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  Speaker 2: be upset about. They know what it looks like, so anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's just great. But anyway, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: puoka has got a wonderful, wonderful lineage, and it is
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these things are when we look at the
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  Speaker 2: tulpa and you look at the puka and you look
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  Speaker 2: at poulter Geists, believe it or not, because they're all
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  Speaker 2: about spirits that either exist or are created. Because we know,
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  Speaker 2: and I learned this up at the Ryan Research Institute,
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  Speaker 2: Poltergeists are basically created by you, a person that is
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  Speaker 2: the current thought. And I just think it's very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a polter geist is like a tupa created
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  Speaker 2: by one, or it's a puka maybe created. We don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but we know that these spirits are very very real,
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  Speaker 2: and they're a lot of kids when we had experiences
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  Speaker 2: with their imaginary friends.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, you know a lot of kids have
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  Speaker 1: imaginary friends, John, I don't think I ever had an
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  Speaker 1: invisible imaginary friend. I might have, I don't think so,
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  Speaker 1: though I never heard about it. And my son has not,
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  Speaker 1: no no doubt, my son is not, thank goodness, But
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  Speaker 1: a lot of kids have imaginary friends. You can see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of videos like on TikTok and Instagram where
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  Speaker 1: parents will walk into a room of their child's room
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  Speaker 1: and their kid'll be talking to somebody that's not there,
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  Speaker 1: but then things will move on their own while they're
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  Speaker 1: in their room. Now, that could be a poultry guys.
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  Speaker 1: That could be poultry guysed activity. It could also be
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  Speaker 1: a ghost or some kind of pooka or something. I
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  Speaker 1: guess right right, it's.
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  Speaker 2: But it's something, and it turns out I read a
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  Speaker 2: couple of academic studies this afternoon. This said that exactly
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  Speaker 2: two thirds of all children, the number is actually sixty
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  Speaker 2: five percent have had an imaginary friend. Now, I was
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  Speaker 2: talking with my buddy Ray. He is my radionics guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's from Gains of Georgia, and I said, Ray, I
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  Speaker 2: got to ask you a question. You're likely the only
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  Speaker 2: person I'm really going to talk to today. Did you
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  Speaker 2: have an imaginary friend when you were a kid?
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  Speaker 1: And that to him about the blue and white one
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  Speaker 1: in the middle. Oh, sorry, I thought I hit the
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  Speaker 1: mute button. That's trying to get I have something to
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  Speaker 1: I have show and tell while so I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 1: was talking to my son. I asked him to get
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  Speaker 1: power vase because I was going to have a story
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll I'll turn it back over to you. But here's
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  Speaker 2: what Ray said. He said, you know, John, I really
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  Speaker 2: did think that I had an imaginary friend. And I
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  Speaker 2: talked to that friend and it was very real to me.
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  Speaker 2: But my parents convinced me that there was no imaginary friend,
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  Speaker 2: and I kind of let go of it. But you know, John,
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  Speaker 2: I really did have an imaginary friend, and I could
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  Speaker 2: feel its presence. I could feel its energy in my room.
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  Speaker 2: And now that Ray is just a nice guy. He
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  Speaker 2: is a retired computer programmer, smart guy. He's uh, he's
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  Speaker 2: into electronics. So I mean, he's just a nice, normal, smart,
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  Speaker 2: upscale guy. And this is a guy that said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: until my parents convinced me otherwise, I had an imaginary friend. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, so many people do, so many people have. Boo
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  Speaker 1: the Beagle, thank you so much for that supersticker. Boo says,
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  Speaker 1: when I was a top and child, I had a walking,
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  Speaker 1: two legged green rabbit visit me in my room. I've
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  Speaker 1: always wondered if it was an et or a spirit?
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  Speaker 1: WHOA What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 3: John?
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  Speaker 2: I think he did have something to visit him. I
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  Speaker 2: would bet money that it was not an et. I
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  Speaker 2: would bet because it's it's a natural type of thing,
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  Speaker 2: like a rabbit or a dog or a horse. I
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  Speaker 2: think it might be have been a spirit. It might
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  Speaker 2: have been a pooka. It could have been a Tulpa,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe not. We'll talk a little more about Tulpa's later,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that might have been a Pooka and
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  Speaker 2: i'd love to I'd love to hear more about his story.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to collect some of these for my next book.
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  Speaker 2: I worked with doctor Sally Ryan Feather at the Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Research Institute when she was working on the book The Gift,
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  Speaker 2: which is a collection of ghost stories that people have had.
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  Speaker 2: And I like the cryptid stories. I like the uf stories,
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  Speaker 2: and I like the spirit stories like the Puka and
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  Speaker 2: the Tapa. I mean, I like those And if you
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  Speaker 2: get if you want to get you a copy of
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  Speaker 2: Look Up in the Sky. It's it's available at scarycast
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  Speaker 2: dot com and it has a lot of real stories
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  Speaker 2: about spirits, UFOs, ghosts and of course our best buddy Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: So and I like those stories.
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  Speaker 1: I do too, I love those stories. There's actually here's
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  Speaker 1: a comment from Jay True Seeker says, I think imaginary
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  Speaker 1: friends are actually gnomes and leprechauns now. I think the
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  Speaker 1: pukas can be fairy like from what I was reading today,
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  Speaker 1: they're part of the fay potentially.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. In other words, there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different entities out there. We're not smart enough to know
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  Speaker 2: how we category. I mean, we categorize people as United
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  Speaker 2: States citizens or Chinese citizens or Russian citizens because those
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  Speaker 2: are easy, Those are easy labels for us to give them.
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  Speaker 2: But in terms of the Faye lefts that were leprechauns, aliens, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: we don't really have the world's best tracking of them.
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  Speaker 2: But we can kind of suppose that, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: maybe it is a faithe and I mean, and I
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  Speaker 2: can tell you, Oh, what's her what's her name? She squatcher? Uh,
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  Speaker 2: what's her what's her name? I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's three of them or four, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What is her name? And she's like lead the lead
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  Speaker 2: she squatch.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, now it's gonna make me look bags. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm terrible at names.
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  Speaker 3: John and and and I.
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  Speaker 2: Call her about once a month and we talked. For
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  Speaker 2: some reason, I've gone crazy, But the fact is she's
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  Speaker 2: been out in the woods and I really really yet
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  Speaker 2: really interesting now again, and we don't know what category
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  Speaker 2: they are, but you know, it is interesting. There are
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  Speaker 2: lots of them out there, and maybe when we cross
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  Speaker 2: over after life, we'll know a little bit more about them.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll come back as one who knows.
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  Speaker 1: Or I could just remote view them. We can try
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  Speaker 1: to figure some things out through that too. We can
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  Speaker 1: know them before we die.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a suggestion for us. Okay, next year is
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  Speaker 2: the seventy fifth anniversary of the movie Harvey. So why
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  Speaker 2: don't we cook up a show between the Cryptid Huntress
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  Speaker 2: and scary cast and let's do that. That would be
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  Speaker 2: a great time to celebrate the Pookah, the tall thing,
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  Speaker 2: and so we let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, sounds like another conference. We will add that to
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  Speaker 1: your conference list.
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  Speaker 2: That's something we could we could do. Oh look, we've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of conferences coming up. And I'll just
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  Speaker 2: say real quickly, North Carolina Bigfoot Conference, let's coming conference.
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  Speaker 2: We've got the Georgia Bigfoot Conference. We've got the Earth
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  Speaker 2: Magic Conference. I mean, we've got a lot of stuff coming.
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  Speaker 1: Up Earth Magic that would be good for this topic. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: well tonight it would be.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one thing I was thinking about. Although I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be doing a little different talk and hopefully
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  Speaker 2: we will have Christopher Bird's wife there. He wrote The
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  Speaker 2: Secret Life of plants two years New York Times bestseller,
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  Speaker 2: and if she is feeling well, she said she would
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  Speaker 2: come to the conference and that would be probably very
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  Speaker 2: cool in the world. Though she's really nice and she
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  Speaker 2: said all is inspired anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Okay, No, I'm just excited. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the pugas and kas is asking what are
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  Speaker 1: the what kind of shapes are the pukahs pookah shapes
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: or shapeshift? Maybe that means shape shift because there's an
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: S on it. Uh, they do shape shift as well.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And uh.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And before before we get into the pukahs a whole lot,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I want we're talking about poultrygeist activity. And I want
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: to make a note of this because and that's why
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: i'd accidentally yelled in the microphone while you were talking.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I thought I had the mute button pushed, but I was.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I was asking my son to go grab my vase
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: or vase as the fancy people say it. H. I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: say vase. Uh, And I know it looks like something else.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's not, y'all, it's a it's a vase. I swear
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it's a vase.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It's a hand a hand blown vase. Okay, And this
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: is white thing right here.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I promise it's a flower vase. But it's very very
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: thin glass. Okay. And when I was living in Atlanta,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I had some flowers in this scene. It was sitting
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: by my bed and I woke up to something moving.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I heard a scratching noise, and I I looked over
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: at my table because I saw this vase going do
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: do and it kept it kept moving, It kept moving.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit at a time, and I thought,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I thought that my cat was actually moving my vase
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: off of my table like this with this paw, you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: know how they do, like the little thing and they
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: they get up and they stretch their arms up on
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the table and they try to pull something towards them
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: until it falls on the ground and crashes. So I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: was thinking that my cat was pulling my vase off
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: my table. So as it went, I know, somebody's gonna
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: screenshot this and be like, look what Jessica's got. Okay,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it's a flower vase. But anyways, the next thing I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: know it I said, may you stop it? I screamed
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that that's my cat's seam, And this vase levitated in
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the air and it sat there in the air with
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: nobody touching it for a good I'm gonna say fifteen seconds,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: which is actually a pretty long time, especially when you're
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: looking at something that crazy. And then this vase crashed
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: to the ground on my hardwood floor and it did
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: not break, okay, And this is like like dainty glass.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And the next morning I just thought, man, that was weird,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and I just rolled over and I went back to sleep, okay,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: because I had a lot of weird stuff that happened
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: at that apartment. The next morning, this thing was the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: vase was sitting upright on my floor and the flower
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: was beside it, and there was water on the floor,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: but the vase was not her. It should have crashed
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: into a million pieces. But see, that was pultr Geist's activity,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: all right. That was poultrygeists activity. I do believe, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I think that that was a point in my life
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: where I mean I think that I did that. I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: think that was my energy. I mean, it could have
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: been a ghost, could have been, but I believe that
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that could have been my energy that did that in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: some kind of weird way. So I just wanted to
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: share that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not so convinced it was a ghost. I'm even
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: convinced more than likely it was polergeist activity because poltergeist,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: as we learned at the Ryan Research Center, come from
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: within the true old guys. Now this is not the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: guys in the movie, which is crazy and terrifying, but
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that's what real Poulter guys are and they're not very spectacular.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: But the other things, well, I don't know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's just interesting. I just wanted to kind
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of let the audience know and like see what it was.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And uh, I think one of my one of my
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: best friends had given me that that vase is a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: gift one year and uh, and it was it was
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: from a glass shop out of Atlanta or something. So
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I've kept that thing. It's actually here in my office
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: to this day because it's kind of part of my
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: little haunted collection. Okay, not that I like to have
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: haunted objects, I don't, but things that have happened to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: me personally that I have witnessed do supernatural things like this.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I keep those things. Okay, I keep not all not
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the doll that started talking I did. I threw that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: one out, okay, but but things like that. It's it's
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: cool to have that. I think but but yeah, well,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: let's let's get into let's get into the puka a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: little bit, because I have a lot of pictures and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: stuff of different types of pooka. The one that's more
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: widely known would be a horse shape pooka. Okay, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: so you would you like to talk about that a
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Well, uh, the horse the horse pooka has been really
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a standard in literature. And what's interesting. And I've got
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: some notes that I had made here because this is
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: going to be a chapter in the new book coming
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: out Mind Technologies, And uh, let's see, there was a
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: there was an Irish king and he came across a
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: pooka who liked him and decided that he would help
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: him govern Ireland. And in general, they are black horses
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and they have golden colored eyes. But they are kind
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: of crazy and you got to be careful, and we don't.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you can see a human being
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that's a pooka. Now. The lady who wrote Harvey by
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: the way, that play was so strong it won a
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Pulitzer Prize for Best Dramatic Work of the Year. I mean,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: that's incredible. One Academy Awards in nineteen fifty Harry Anderson
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: starred as Elwood p. Dowd I think in ninety eight
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: or ninety nine. And Netflix is gonna Harvey's coming back.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And there is a play that may be premiering in
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Raleigh about the pooka. I mean, it's coming of age
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: now because people like these things in general. The pooka
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: does have magical powers, can do things, can see in
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: some method or manner, the future, and you gotta be
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: careful about that. Oh oh, now I see a dark
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: image of a thing. Is that a perce?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I know it's supposed to be a pooka. It says
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: pooka on it. It says pooka.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of different examples of like
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a puka. They look elfish, some of them. Uh, they could,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: like you said, they could be human looking. And and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that does remind me of the fay and stuff the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: shape shifters, because they can pretty much shape shift into anything,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: including goats. Now, doctor John, I saw a video of
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a black goat walking on two legs through a village
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in Africa or somewhere, and uh, and it it looks
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: scary to I mean to the normal person. I mean,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I first of all goats have an interesting look about
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: them with their eyes. The pupils are weird, okay, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: they're also the symbol of like like baphamet, I guess,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and so it's a little.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Sinister baphametz terrifying. You know, it's real funny about goats.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: You know. I used to sell a lot of life
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: insurance and I went out to see this this family.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: It was a couple. They were really nice, and they
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: had a bunch of little baby goats, and this one
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: baby goat fell in love with me. He just kept
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: nudging up to me, and he and made me he
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: made me pick him up. And goats are really very affectionate,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and apparently if you continue treating them like that, they
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: don't get unloady and weird. They can become very good hens.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: They're sweet. My sister has goats. Okay. I love the ghasts.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: But you don't want to go in the pen with
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: them and turn your back on them because they will
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: head butt you and knock you out. Okay, so you
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: also got to be careful. They will head butt you,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and they've got horns antlers like that. Fella. I hope,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I hope your little baby goat didn't look like this.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: He was just a sweet little looking little baby goat
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: and he just kept jumping up on my leg. I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: finally said, And the guy whose house it was, he said, yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he wants you to pick him up. I didn't want
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: to ask you because some people are scared of him.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm not scared of him. They're like dogs.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You know, you either love dogs or you don't. And
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you neither love goats baby goats or you don't.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Well, and some people say that they're rabbits too. They
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: look like rabbits. This looks like a hybrid of something.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But this is a pretty popular picture that will pop
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: up when you do a search for the puka and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: kind of close up look at that face face. I mean,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I've we've all seen animals. I've been talking. I mentioned
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: this other day. There are animals that look like they
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: have human faces. And I don't know what the topic was.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I went there with that, but
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: there are animals out here that you can find on
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: line where they look. I guess that's when people think
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: they look like skin walkers. And so I mean, there
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: could be like a fine line too between I don't
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: want to say, skin walker. It can't be the same
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: as a skin walker, am I am?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I right?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Can't be the same as a skin walker.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Right? And okay, I've got to take a short break,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: if you will indulge me the word shape shifter. Yes,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: have you ever seen a real shape shifter? That the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: shifted shape?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, that is funny you asked that because today, gosh,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I meant to get some screenshots and I forgot. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: will do the audience a favor, and tonight after the show,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I will not forget. I will put this video on
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: my Instagram stories because a friend of mine sent me
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a video and I sent it to a couple of
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: my research friends because it was so wild. It was
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a gentleman who turned into a crocodile or an all
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: It was actually an alligator, And I asked, I wrote,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I saw this video and I was like, I don't
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: know if that's real. I had to watch it several
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: times to understand I was looking at because with AI,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: we don't know what's real and what's not sometimes at
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: this point, but there's a video of a gentleman who
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: he he changed his jaw. He started moving his jaw around,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: kind of weird. And he went down. He had on
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: look like a hat with the crocodile head on it,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but he kind of went down, put his hands on
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the ground and did like he was gonna do it
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a push up and as he went down, his jaw
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: came out and it kind of pushed forward and he
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: looked like a totally like a crocodile or not a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: crocodile alligator and uh and and I had to watch
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: it over and over and over againsel I was like,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: is this Ai or is this real? And my friend
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: said that was real? He said that was real, and uh,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and I believe it. Okay, I don't know how he
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: did his jaw like that. Uh, but I'm gonna let
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the audience, y'all, y'all decign for yourself. I I'll post
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that video later tonight when I get off the show.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: So I think if it wasn't Ai, yes, I have
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: seen someone not in real life though okay not really.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: That was on a video. So I've never seen anything
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like that that I can think of in real life.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: The pleasure of I was standing outside of my previous
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: apartment and there were some apartments that butted up against them.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You know about twenty feet away, and their back door
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: mirrored my back door. So I'm standing there talking to
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a friend who knows a lot about the paranormal, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: this young fella about twenty five years old walked up
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the stairs and disappeared through the door. Who okay, I said,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I said, that's a shape shifter. She said,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: what do you mean? I said, I just saw a
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: shape shift vanish through an unopened door. And so it
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: was up. Three months later, the apartment had been empty
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and these new people came in and they were out
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: cooking out. I definitely wanted to find out what they
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: might know. And I said, do you know about the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: guy that used to live in this apartment? Oh? Wow?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: The landlord didn't like him. I said, what do you mean, Well,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: he owed him a lot of rent, So the landlord
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: he was he hurt. The landlord heard him inside the apartment,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: so he just opened the door and walked in. He
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: was not there. And whenever the landlord went in, even
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: though he thought he'd heard this fella in there, he
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: wasn't there till he finally just vanished, you know, just left.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I said, oh okay. They said, wonder
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: what that was and I explained to him what I thought,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and they were creeped out. But yeah, I think I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: saw a shape shifters through an unopened door, and it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: just something I saw. It's on my timeline. I saw it,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: so I mean, it's just that was truly one of
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the creepier moments I've ever had. And I can still
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: see him just vanishing through the door it never opened. Wow.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: You know you and I I think one of the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: first times you ever came on my show, we talked
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: about the lizard Man of Skateboard Swamp and I see
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: brook in the chat had mentioned something about could it
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: could be a reptilian And we talked sometimes on the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: channel about reptilian shape shifters and them using some kind
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of it's almost like a holographic technology or something, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: being able to do things like I mean, that's how
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: they're shape shifting, or that's how they're like we're perceiving
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: them as being in human form, but really it's just
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: it's almost like a hologram or just something some kind
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of mind control that they're doing on us. Okay, So
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. All this stuff is just mind blowing
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and it's hard to rip your head around on Donna
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: is saying, Donna, Hey, Donna. She says, as a child,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: we went to Coney Island in New York and watched
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a woman turn into a gorilla in the nineteen seventies.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: My grandmother snatched us up and ran, Wow, that's wild.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: That would have been terrifying on her. But thank you
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: for sharing that. I wonder if that was real. She
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: really turned into a gorilla. That was some kind of trick.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Have you heard of that? Well, you know, that sounds
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: like a little more than a trick.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: It does that, It does something that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: May it happened and they made some money off of it,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: and everybody thought, well, it's just a trick, but it's not.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And that's something that we are up is when we
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: see things like this. There are times when you know
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: there're circus side shows and things like that, but they're real,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and you know, you've got to be very careful about
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: things like that and be on your watch because there
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: are a lot of things out there that are real
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: that are not AI generated. They are absolutely real, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you've got to watch out because you and you got
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: to realize and you've got to say to yourself listen,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: this is what I just saw. And you've got to
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: log that in your brain, right right, Always write it
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: down if you have something like that happen, because that's
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the best way it is.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, Bernard, you, you and I are on the same
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: frequency tonight, Okay, because I was just thinking about David
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Copperfield and Bernard says Christian Angel and David Blaine freaked
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: me out. They've got something going on. In my opinion,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Christian is Christian for real. Okay, So my friend Brian
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: seeing you guys know Brian, he's been on the show.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: He actually is the one who threw the Full Disclosure
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Now conference about a month ago. Brian met David Copperfield
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: a long time ago and he said that his eyes
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: were black, hey, like a black eyed person. Uh, there
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: was just something very off about him. It was like
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: almost kind of evil, like I think that he was
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: kind of compared to like or associating it with black magic,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: potentially something dark, potentially demonic and uh, and so sometimes
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: these aren't just parlor tricks and tricks there there there
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: is like high magic being done, and uh, we're we're
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: kind of we just assume that it's all some kind
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: of a trick, you know, like a trick, like a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: sleight of hand, but it could be real magic that
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: we and you know, we we see all these performers
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: doing satanic rituals and stuff on stage during their concerts. Now, uh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: they're they're putting rituals on the audience. I mean, why
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't they be doing dark magic a magic show
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: like that, and even casting spells on the audience while
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: they're doing it?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I say, why would they? Well? Good does that?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Do they like? They already like him? Well, why don't you,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you know, let it go? I mean, you know, dealing
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: with black magic is very dangerous. I have a friend
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: who is a sorcerer, and I met him about five
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: years ago, and he doesn't do that stuff anymore. He
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: was I could tell that there were some problems he was.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: He was beginning to become a little bit too entangled
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: with dark forces. He doesn't mess with that anymore, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I don't feel that he does anymore, but it was
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it was getting dangerous. And and that's why I sleep
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: with a bible right next to my head, and I'm
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: a bible right over there. I mean, you've got to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: be careful when I in the early days of Scary
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: cast I could feel some dark energies coming into my
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: place and I'm just not going to have that. I mean,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, the paranormals fun, it's interesting scientific research,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it's great. You've got to be careful, and Jessica, I
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: believe you'll agree.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: With Oh yeah, I have one hundred percent agree with you.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: You know, when I first started doing bigfoot research, it
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: led to aliens showing up in my bedroom. Okay, so
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you have to know what you're getting into. And it
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: also that was around the time that this thing started
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: floating around my room at night. Okay. So and it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a vase, Okay, just reiterating because it does.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: It does look like something different and I totally know that,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and it's always just like an ongoing joke. I probably
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be showing that there but that, but it is
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: what it is. I want to day it's a rosebud vase,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and I want to thank my friend forgiving me that.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: One of my girlfriends gave me that back for my
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: birthday a long time ago. But anyways, one thing leads
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to another, and sometimes you just don't know what you're
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: getting yourself into even if you're doing like a spirit
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Box session that opens portals. Okay, it opens up a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: line of communication with you and the other side. And
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: aunt Edna that you're talking to might not be aunt Edna. Okay. Uh,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it may be something very dark pretending to be aunt Edna.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Right. And you know, we did kind of a major
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: examination of a restaurant in Wilmington. It was on the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: second floor and the uh and I need the owner
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: fairly well, and he let us come in there and
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: stay all night. We stayed there until about five o'clock.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Now it was dead tired. But what is that? It's
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: an older app that you'd have on your on your
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: iPhone or whatever. It was maybe maybe eight or nine
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: years old. Do you know what that might have been.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's around anymore but spirit but I
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: guess it was spirit Box.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get it. You can still do those.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: You can get like an EVP reporters on your phone
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and uh and uh, I forgot what you call it,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: because you can get like SLS apps where they it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: like the kinetic Uh. It's like a little like stick
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: figures that show up on your phone whenever there's a
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: spirit in there.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: We we use that at the Skinwalker Cave actually, and
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: we picked up three beings. One of them was a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: giant that came crawling out of the cave, and then
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: there were two little tiny ones and one of the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: one of the little ones jumped on my rim pod
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and started dancing around the antenna in circles. It was,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: it was like on the antenna, pose them, never mind,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: That I didn't realize was so dangerous. They would say
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: where's the ghost and I would point where I thought
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it was, and then sure enough, the the the little uh,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the little monitor would show that's where the ghost was.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And I realized much later that we didn't need to
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: be doing that, because that means you're getting you're you're
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: getting a little too close to spirits and uh, that's
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: not good. And know words, you don't know who they are.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You can't see them, and lord lord nose, don't mess
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: with a weedi.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Board, No, don't know. Never do that, if you, I mean,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: unless unless you're ready to do it and you want
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to open something up. I can't say I never I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: touched it. I touched one one time and and it
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: ended in me and my friends screaming, throwing the board
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: across the room and running outside and sitting on her
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: parents' car until her mom got home from work because
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: we were too scared to go back in her house.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, I absolutely believe that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: And I was fifteen, yeah, oh my god, yeah, or fourteen,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I was really young.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My cousin's experience happened when we were eight. And
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: you know, we had the planchet raised up off the board.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Sarah said, that's not you as it. I said, no,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I said let's break now. And it felt with the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: planchet rose up about five inches off the board and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I said let's break now, and she knew what I
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: meant it was. I mean, you know, just no more
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: of that. And that's why I have a couple of hymnoids,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: a couple of Bibles and everything I think. I think
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: they're healthy to have.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have a Bible in my pew pew right there. Okay,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: so in my bed. You need both. You need both,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: some of us do at least. But okay, let's let's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: let's explore these pookahs because I have some fun facts
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: if the audience would like to hear them. John, And
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I know you you know more about the pooka than
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I do. But I figure we go through some some
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: little fun facts. Uh, they are it is a negative spirit,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: a negative monster. It just kind of depends on who's
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: telling the story about it or the way they perceive it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Someone had said the word perception in the in the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: chat while ago. It's all about perception.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: They often have ears, horns and a tail. Okay, they
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: don't always, but they, but they oftentimes do. They They've
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: been known to harass people who are out late at night.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: This was back in the olden days. People would be
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: on their horse and carriages going, you know, riding at night,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and and they would get accosted by the puka and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: they like to this is a weird one. So they
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: like to go into people's gardens and ruin their fruit
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: by urinating on it. Okay, so that's so wash your
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: wash your fruit. Everybody, please wash your fruit. But they also, oh,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they also are known to play a flute and it's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: hypnotizing and it will they'll play the flute until people
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and people start dancing until they die. It's crazy dancing.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: It's like the all night it's like the rave.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: That sounds like what we what they used to call
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in ancient Greek times, the tarantella, because when you would
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: get bitten by tarantula, you would need to sweat yourself
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: to death to not die, and that you might not die,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and if you didn't, you would die. So yeah, that's that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: That really does have some basis in fact.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Really the tarantella, I've not I've never heard that before,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: but I love that. That's a cool fun factory there.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was, you know, I was a concert
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: pianist and there was I think Stephen Heller wrote a
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: famous tarantella that a lot of us played, and I
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: found out the history of it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: It was really cool. It was really kind of scary.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Don't don't get bitten by a brown recluse, and don't
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: get bitten by a taranta for goodness sake. And I
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: was bitten once by a brown recluse and that was
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: about fifteen years ago, and I still have a brown
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: ring on the back of one of my calves, my
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: left calf, and it's scary. You know. I had to
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: go to the hospital and get some emergency antibiotics. It's
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: around with those spiders now.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, spiderbyes are the worst, and so
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: especially when you live out in the country. Like I
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: grew up on a farm out in the middle of nowhere.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I grew up in a log cabin. Actually, and I did.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I grew up in a lot. It was a It
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: was a pretty nice log cabin. It was very primitive.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: If you were to look at it today, it looks
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: like it was built in the eighteen hundreds. It was
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: born in the night, I mean born, it was born,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: it was made. It was made in the nineteen seventies. Yes,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I was born. I was born. The house was made.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: It was built. But but yeah, it was. It looks
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: to it literally today, looks like a house that was built.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's like an old homestead. It's beautiful though. But I
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: hate admitting this on air, but I'm gonna go and say.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: The log it had like space between the logs. Okay.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't like super like water proof and stuff. Yeah, insulated,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: it was. It was cold, it was wet. We had
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: you know, spiders would come in. We haven't had snakes
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: in the bathtub occasionally. Okay, Like, so y'all wonder why
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I'm tough today. Because I grew up in a log
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: house that was so primitive. We had snakes that would
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: crawl in there sometimes and in the bast habit and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was unsafe. It was a beautiful home. Okay,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: but uh, And my dad jokes around about how he'd
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: come on from work and we'd have ducks sitting on
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the couch with us watching cartoons. Okay, So would you
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: really I did.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: We would bring the Muscovi's in the in the mallards
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: in and they would they would just walk in the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: house and go sit on the couch with us and
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: watch cartoons. Yes, but we you know, we had to
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: really look out for spiders like that, like brown reclue spiders.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I had to learn early like what they looked like.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: So we stayed away from them because they are so
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: so dangerous. Now, okay, so with the puoka. The pukahs
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: have been associated with the wild hunt. Now you're familiar
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: with the wild hunt, aren't you, John? Actually no, no, okay,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Well I've talked about the wild hunt before. Now these
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: are like spirits did I won't say deities, but it's
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: actually kind of bad that I don't know if it's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: once a year or how many how often it happens,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: but the wild hunt happens occasionally where you don't want
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: the wild hunt to You don't want to be outside,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: you don't want them to come scoop you up and
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: take you on. Basically, it's like hell hounds, okay, And
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: it's like it's almost like the White Walkers from you know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the Game of Thrones on their hell hounds and their
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: horses going through the sky scooping up people. And I
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: don't know if they're taking them to Hell or what.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happens. But the pukahs are known,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: especially in the horse form, they are known to scoop
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: up people. And these are like the travelers that are
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: like late at night, if somebody's walking down the road
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: at night, these pukas will go run by, scoop them
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: up and take them for a treacherous, terrorizing ride where
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: they're getting dragged across gravel, hit against boulders, skint up
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and bleeding and their bones are broken and it is
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: just terrifying. Okay. So that's something that the pukas are
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: known to do.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Right, So what you want to do is, if at
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: all possible, find one make friends with it because they
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: can be very helpful, like the King. The King of
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Ireland found out and I believe that story. You know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I believe a lot of the I've got a philosophy
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: of my life. If a story keeps coming up over
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: and over, it must have some basis in fact. Do
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: you agree with me on that, Jessica.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do agree with that statement, because that's how
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: we find some of the places that my team researches
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: with the you know, going out to do the cryptied
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: field research. We listen out for like local legends and lore,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: and there's usually a hint of truth behind these stories.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: You know, if there's like a local witch, if there's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: a booger holler okay, if there's a pig man, or
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: any kind of local legend and lore. It didn't just
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: come out of nowhere, even you know, when I grew up,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: my grandparents had I thought it was a story my
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: grandmother made up. But I've heard other people talk about
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: her now. But she used to talk about how mad
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Maud lived in her backyard and my grandfather I was
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: terrified to spend the night at their house because they
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: lived in the country too. But at night my grandfather
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: would talk about the little boy in the that lived
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: in the wall of his house.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: And uh.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: And at night, after I would go to sleep, and
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I would I would go get in my own room
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: and one of their extra bedrooms, and my grandfather would
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: sneak down the hallway at night and he would start saying,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: let me out, let me out, and uh. And so
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I was terrified of the little boy. I thought there
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: was a little boy in their wall. Okay, but it
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: was really my granddaddy. But uh, but he had a
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: he had a knack of changing his voice, and it
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: sounded like a little boy. So uh. But but I'm
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: not saying it's not a local legend. That's a personal
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: legend that came out of my grandfather. But the mad
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: mod was. And raw Head and Bloody Bones. Raw Head
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and Bloody Bones is another one.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Uh and.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: It I guess it didn't help that their house was
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: right there on the Trail of Tears, like part of
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: where the Trail of Tears went through in Georgia, and
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: uh and so a lot of and very rich history
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: right there on their property, and so very could very
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: well could have been very haunted in that area. So
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: a creepy feeling at night. My family still owns that property,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: okay to this day. And yes, Georgia, it's well, it's
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: it's over. It's in West Georgia. It's in West Georgia,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and it's in West Georgia. And as a matter of fact,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: about four or five years ago, there was something that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: happened on that property. And and there is something that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: was very much a shape shifter showed up on that property.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: My sister's former husband was outside one night. They they'd
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: always build a camp like a bonfire out back and stuff,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and and he he said that he saw something out
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: of the corner of his eye, and he looked up
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and there what the way he described it was a
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: naked man that jumped over the fence into the woods.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: But it looked more like that. What is that thing
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: off of the ring?
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: What is that the.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: What is about the ring? The thing that says, my precious,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Lord of the rings, Lord of the rings.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: That's it?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: The little Golomb or something. I think that's his name.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's his name, the glum, yes.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Because the gollumn is Eastern European Tulpa.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well that I think that that's what my my
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: former brother in law saw.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: He would not even talk about it after after that incident.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: He was so disturbed by what he had seen because
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: in his mind, he doesn't believe in he doesn't believe
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: in bigfoot. He's a hunter, he doesn't believe in ghosts.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: He doesn't believe in any of that stuff. He didn't
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: back then, I don't think, and I'm sure that he
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: rolled his eyes at me. Most people do a lot
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: of people do.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: But when he told us that story, he was so
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: animate about getting it out and telling us. But then
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: he renigged on it like it never happened. Now, maybe
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: that was because so he could keep his sanity and
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: live there without thinking about it. But but but it happened,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: and there was something there.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know, and you gotta, you know what,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: I go by a rule. You got to be careful
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: out in woods at night. Now you just do. And
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I know that. When I had my first bigfoot experience,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: it was at a house and the lights got turned
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: off and I saw some very strange things that were
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: really disturbing, and I realized, you got to be careful
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the not the dangers, but the situations you put yourself, Jessica,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I know you guys and everybody, you've
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: got to be careful about what you put yourself in,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: and you've got to take protection because we only have
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: one life here, you know.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have lived many lives John, So yeah, it's uh.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: We even have David Pardue in the chat. I think
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: you know, David John David Pardue is one of my
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: teammates up in North Carolina.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he mentioned the rake okay, and that it could
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: have been the rake too, but it actually looked more
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: human than the rake, and uh, and it looked more
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: like the Gullum okay or Gollum from the Lord of
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the Rings out there, and it is very much you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: our friend Don Tart actually one of my other teammates,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: he has a video of a rake in his what
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: looks like a rake in his yard off his video
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: cameras out there. So that's in Carolina too.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I think it was great seeing both of those guys,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Don Tart and David Parduke at the Which one was
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: it was the Earth Magic Conference?
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, no, it was the UFO conference. It was the
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Georgia the World UFO Conference.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it was some conference we do a bunch
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: of me. It was great seeing them and I got
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: to talk with them a little bit. It's been a while,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: so anyway, thank you for bringing some of your some
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: of your teammates there that I could get to see
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: him and talk to him. It's been a couple of years.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, we have a great I have wonderful teammates and
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: people that are very supportive. I've been on the phone
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: with the majority of my team today actually and yesterday.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: We've had some interesting things that came up with our team,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: and we all keep in touch and and I love
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: them to death. I was with some of my I've
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: got a new team too that I'm on UH as well,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: and I was with them yesterday of it UH Merkele Studio.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So shows coming soon. But yeah, we're we're all really
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: super close and tie and because we go out there,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: we experience some weird stuff together and so your vib
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: attract your tribe and we're all weirdos, I guess, but
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: we're also pretty tough dealing with this kind of stuff.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: We do it, so y'all don't have to y'all, Okay,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: everybody in the audience, we do it. So y'all don't
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: have to.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping our new team, have you been Matthew,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Jamie and me, we're going to be I'll just tell
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: everybody we're going down to Elkins Creek.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Weekend after after Labor Day, and that's going to be fun.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna try to get some locals down there.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I've got an author that has a book. I'm trying
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: to track him down. I'm trying to track down a
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: lot of people so we can have at least one
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: more person. But I think we'll have a good time
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: there because what we are going to do is at
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: the Molina Bigfootable, which is the ninth of November, You
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: and matt and I are going to do a panel
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: to close the conference park. We're going to talk about
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: our experiences out there at Elkins Creek, which is and
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: then I love this book because it actually says the
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Elkins Creek cast is the most important Bigfoot artifact in
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: all Georgia.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, the Elkins Creek Bigfoot. We've we've discussed it on
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: my channel before. H this past year, I had I
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: had Tina from the clerk's office in Molina where Elkins
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Creek is here in Georgia. I'm going to be speaking
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: at their festival in November, November ninth, I'll be there.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: You'll be there too, But uh, we'll all be there.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Y'all come see us. It is the best small town
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: bigfoot festival I've ever been to. It's so fun. So
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: please come to that. A lot of a lot of
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the big researchers, all my buddies are all gonna be there,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: so y'all come to that. But but yeah, they had
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: huge tracks and stuff down there. So yeah, gosh, your
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: hair is looking great tonight.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: John.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: By the way, talking about it, we haven't even gotten
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: to the temple. Maybe we can cover that a little
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: bit later.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Sometimes, Yes, for sure, for sure. I was just complimenting
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: you on your hair. Your hair is looking mighty fine tonight.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Your hair looks great, John, Yes, yours, it looks so good.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing with your hair. It
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: looks great, Okay, So I hate to tell this.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I just let it grow.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I think somebody in the chat mentioned your hair earlier, like,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: your hair does look great tonight.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I wash it film in the morning, I'm done.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: So I'm jealous. I'm so jealous. I'm trying to see
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: if there's anything else left for me to talk about
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: with the wild hunt, okay, because that that is something
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that the pookahs are associated with. And uh, but I
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: think I think we've covered all that now. There is
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a cautionary telle these pookahs, some of the stories that
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: people tell or cautionary tales about messing with nature, okay,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: and uh and going against nature. If you if you
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: go it's nature, nature will beat you up. Okay. So
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the cautionary tale of the pookahs. I think.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: So the Tulpa, when we talked about that, I made
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: a connection to the Hounulus. Okay. That's the Homeoculous show
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: that I did with my friend Brian is the only
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: one one of two shows that were deleted off of Facebook. Okay,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: they were deleted. Yes, Facebook deleted them for no reason.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I mean they had a reason, but they wouldn't tell
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: me why. And so I figured, well, that must have
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: been an important topic.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And yeah, everything to iHeartRadio and YouTube and the internet
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: because Facebook seems to have censorship, they seem.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: To have opinions censorship. Yeah, but yes, so those that
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and I can't remember the other video, but that was
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: taken down, but it was. It was definitely the homunculus
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and we were talking about artificial humans. Okay, now, how
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: are the Puka and the tulpa connected? Is it because
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: of the manifested being aspect of it?
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: John Well? I think the tulpa is manifested from people
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: by doing the seance or getting together the Uh. The
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: puka is a spirit that you just run into, but
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: they do act a lot alike. Now you can. There's
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: there's a lady.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: She's a she was an anthropologist back in the nineteen
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: twenty and she said that she created a tilipa when
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: she was in the Himalayas, and she said that that
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: tulpa went from being a fat, jolly, kind of friar
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: kind of dug to a very unhappy one and she
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: kind of lost control over him and she had to
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: get some of the holy men to help erase him. So,
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: you know, they they they they can stay good, they
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: can stay helpful, but they can also be a little
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: bit problematic. Now we know that the Uh the pukah
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: is a trickster, but they can also stay very helpful.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: It just depends on the Uh, the relationship that you
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: have with them. I think that's the best. That's the
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: best I can say based on the research that I've found.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I'd like to find more research. I've got some books coming,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: you know. You know, I got to tell you something, Jessica,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: this is an extensive hobby when when all when you
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: look at all the books that I have to buy
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: and learn from. But it's fun and I really enjoy it.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I enjoy it too. Well, You're you're pretty smart
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: and you have you have street smarts too. You go,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: you get out in the woods and you you get
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: out in the you know, do paranormal investigations and all that.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Like you're you've been immerseding this for a year, for decades,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: so you're you're super fun and super knowledgeable. It's fun
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: to talk to about this stuff. And you you talk
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: about stuff you're decades. Well, I mean, you're we're probably
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: not much in like an age difference, Okay, you and I.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: So I've been around for decades. I'm just glad to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: be here. Vampire. You might be a vampire. I don't know. Well,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: doctor Dennis Carol, I don't know. I think happy birthday
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: to dentist. By the way, I don't know if Dennis
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: is in here tonight. But it's Dennis's birthday, I think, Okay,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: so I need to I need to call him or
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: message him after the show tonight. But Dennis, we always
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: joke around about how we think that Dennist might be
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: a werewolf because you never seen Dennis and a werewolf
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: in the same room together. Okay, so uh but yeah,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I mean all my friends are cryptids, all right? Or
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: ship everybody's shape shift just kidding. I hope they're not,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: uh but uh but yeah, So okay, the homunculous. Let's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: get back to that a little bit, because we're talking
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: about artificial humans. And I was actually kind of making
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: a connection when you and I were talking about the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Tulpa to the human cloning okay, the cloning of the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: bodies and uh dark entity being put into them through
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: magic and rituals and things like that, and we talk
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: about cryptids being cloned as well, and in either I
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: guess made from a test tube like test two babies, right.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the correct term, but they're
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: basically test two babies kind of. And uh, and it's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: becoming more prevalent these days, John, all these cloning facilities
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: like Clone aid and celebrities that are being cloned, and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: people with that are rich, cloning themselves and cloning dogs
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: and cats and all sorts of stuff. Uh, but there's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: an element of the homunculous and the being. I don't know,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: they're just it's all connected. It's just all connected. I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: guess with this, it really is.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: The whole spirit thing is connected. Like the tublet has
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: a connection to the Puka, which has a connection to Polder. Guys,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: there's a whole big connection in the spirit world and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: we just we just I guess aren't allowed to know
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: enough that we can describe this because I guess that's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: not what we're supposed to be doing. And when we
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: were here on earth this time around.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Oh well people are doing it. People are doing cloning.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Oh now they are doing that.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, oh they're doing that. Okay. I also wanted
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: to I have some pictures too. Okay, now, this is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: not how easy to do with the homunkey list that
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: I know of, but these could actually But when I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: was researching the Puka, I actually came across like leprechans. Okay,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: so I was it's part of like the troll. I
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: would talked to my friend Caleb Jade. I don't know
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Caleb's in the chat tonight, but I've I've done a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: show with him over on Aquarius Rising Africa, and he
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: was talking about, let's see, what are they called the Cobalts,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the Cobalds. Are you familiar with what Cobalds are?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: No, I have, That's not a term I'm familiar with.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: They're elves and little people. Okay, so the little people
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and I was I was just getting I was feeling
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: like there is a connection to the I mean, these
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: are kind of elves, right, the pukahs, Uh, they're Elfish,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: they can be, but they're I think that puka actually
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: means grimlin or goblin.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, these little lepre you know, we got these
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: movies out, like the Leprechaun movie. Those are some scary
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: little leprechauns right there, and they look like goblins. I've
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: got some terrible pictures of them. Uh, they're there. I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: don't know if that one's a scary one. I mean,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: that's's kind of what they look like. This is from
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: that movie. That's the scary one.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: That's that's.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not sure if if that could be
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a pooka. But they were saying, and those articles that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: I was reading that leprecauns or pukahs or could be
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: well right, you know, and I'll.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Tell you what you got. You gotta be careful when
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: you get the leprecauns and it starts inching towards the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: little green men, like from from Kelly, Kentucky. That is
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: terrifying stuff. Ohrt have you ever you're talking about this?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: You're talking about Hopkinsville, the Kentucky Goblins. Oh, I already
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: had a picture I was going to talk about that time. Yes,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: because we gotta we gotta talk about We can't. We
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: can't talk about goblins without bringing up the Kentucky Goblins.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: That's just a given.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: And uh.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: And this happened back in the nineteen fifties. I believe
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of strange happening were going on. High strangeness
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: was going on in the nineteen fifties, including Sasquatch sightings.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Wait was it the fifties or sixties when Patty was
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: seen and filmed? I can't remember. That was fifties or sixties.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: That was let's see nineteen and sixty eight.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Sixty eight, Okay, So I was a sixties, all right,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: But a lot of UFO stuff was going on in
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties. A lot of like abductions started happening,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: like Betty and Barney Hill, okay. And we had the
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Kentucky Goblins. And the people who witnessed the Kentucky Goblins
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: they said they were like kind of amphibious looking, but
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: the only way they could describe them was goblins. So
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: maybe they were pukas potentially. I don't know. I did
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: remote you it, and I think that they were some
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: kind of extraterrestrial personally.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: That's what I think, just basically, because I used to
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: have a friend that I did some ghost hunting with
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: around some cemeteries around here. He was head of the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: Kentucky Ghost Hunter Association, and I think, uh, I think
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: the Alice Flagg.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Cemetery down in Pauley's Island scared him away from here.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Oh wow.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: It was terrifying because he was he was a slowing
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: down some recorded footage he had and there was a
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: little girl's voice that very clearly said talk to me,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: talk to me. And I never saw he never came
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: back down here. I'm gonna take care.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you put the word out to ghost hunters.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: They'll be down there if you just tell them where
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: to go. Because that's pretty. It's kind of sad too.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: It's a little sad. But like we said earlier, we
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's a real little girl or if
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: it's something pretending to be a little girl. There was
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: always that that's the issue. Yeah, for sure. Well, speaking
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: about scary stuff, the more famous pugos in media lately
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: was Donnie Darko. Okay, this guy, this is a great movie.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I have this on DVD. Okay. I was going through
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: my old DVD's the other day and I saw this
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: in there. This is a great movie. It's kind of dark.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: It's called Donnie Darko for a reason. But he has
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: an imaginary friend, Okay, and and it is it does
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: take the physicality which is actually just as imaginary friend
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: of a it's like a person a really demented bunny suit.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: So if anybody hasn't seen this, I highly recommend watching this.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty good movie. But it's also very dark. Okay,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: so it's like one of those psychological thrillers I guess,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: but this is it's almost like your typical bunny. Okay,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Now that Donnie Darko Bunny is almost just this is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, this is actually almost as scary
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: as Donnie Darko to a lot of people. And I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: haven't seen Harvey. I haven't seen this movie.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: John.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I know it's one of your best favorite best movies, right,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: you love this movie. But that is that's a creepy
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: looking bunny too. I'm just saying.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, well, it's it's something else.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I just really like the film, and I like the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: way it ends. It ends the way that you and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I would want it to end.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, we need more movies like that. However it ends.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I have to watch it and find out.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: It's a wonderful life, is what it is. Good.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, Well what do you think about all
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: these kids that have imaginary friends?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: What do I think?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, what do you think?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: They better be careful? You do not know who you're
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: dealing with. It's it's it's the weedy board syndrome. You
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: don't know who you're dealing with. You've got to be
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: very careful. And I'll say this right out in the open.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: That's why we have Bibles and and one reason that
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I think we have religion to protect us from those
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: things that can come trying to get us. I mean,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: that's what I think. I hope you don't mind be
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: saying that.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: No, I don't mind you saying that. I think there's
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: just as many adults these days too, that probably have
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: imaginary friends. We're living in weird times, John, We're living
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: in very weird times, and there's probably just as I'm
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna say, as many adults, because you know, there
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: is a point where kids are more psychic, and I
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: think that's from the time they're born until they're like
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: six or seven, if I'm not.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Mistaken, because what happens is they are so much in
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: the area of FATA waves the three hurts to seven
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: and a half hurts, and that gets them in that
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: creative space, but it also does put them in some danger.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: And I've got an article that I'm working on about that,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll let you know when I have that done.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Oh nice, very nice, And thank you Long Island Bigfoot
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: for that super sticker. Thank you for being here. I'm
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: glad to see you in here. I'm glad that everybody's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: in here. We had a great chat tonight too. By
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm sorry I get to talking and I
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: lose track of the chat and it runs so fast.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: It's so hard to keep up with the chat. Because
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: you guys are just y'all are amazing. So thank y'all
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: for all the comments and stuff tonight. But yeah, I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: was a lot of people, a lot of people talking
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: to themselves and stuff. Today. I talk to myself too
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: all the time, John, I think that's just normal for me.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I've always got voice. I'm always talking to myself, Okay,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I'm always there's always inner dialogue going on, and that's
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's different. Yeah, that's different than having an
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: invisible friend. I think. I hope it's a little bit different. Okay,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: it is because it's me. It's me and my higher
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: self having an argument in my head, I guess. But
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: you know, there's there's movies about me about that too.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: But it's like imaginary friends, but in the end they
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: turn out to be ghosts. I mean, where's the line?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Where do we draw the line between an imaginary friend
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: and a ghost? John?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Uh, Prayer can help.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Prayer can say, you just say prayer. So we got
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: to pray about it, Okay, So we have to pray
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: about it. We can do, yes, okay, and.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I mean you just gotta be careful.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: We are on the forefront of science. But it's a
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: dangerous science. I like that term. It's a dangerous science.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Don't you agree?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Of course it's very You're calling it a science. Well,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: can I appreciate that we are the scientists?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: This is like the scientists in the nineteen hundreds and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: the early nineteen hundreds, they were trying to explore physics
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: and trying to develop quantum physics. But in nineteen twenty one,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: and I mean, we're in another kind of science.
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  Speaker 2: We're trying to learn about and we're trying to figure
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: out what it's all about because we're finally realizing there's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: some things out there that we need to find out about.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: But it's just it's time. I'll just say it is.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: But we gotta be careful. But we can still do
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: it and enjoy what we do.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I will. From now I'm being known as doctor Jessica,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: doctor Cryptid Huntress. I'm just kidding. I'm not I'm kidding.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I'm totally kidding. I'm definitely not. You are you are
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: a doctor though, for real, you are doctor John Say,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I call you doctor John. Yeah, you are, you are.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just stay the cryptid huntress. I'm no
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: cryptid surgeon is the best. Thank you, thank you.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: I have fun.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I have fun doing cryptied hunting and and I have
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: fun looking at topics like this and uh and exploring
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: it because I know, ever heard of a monkey list before?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I never heard of a tulpa until you brought it up.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I've never even heard of a pooka. Really, I mean,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: but I do know about shape shifters, and it's all
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: the stuff that I talk about. But then there's like
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: specifics Okay, there's like categories of shape shifters and the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: fay and stuff, and I think, uh, Cale, Okay, Jan's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: talking about Caleb Caleb Jade, y'all. He's amazing. I can't
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: wait to bring him on the show one day.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: But Caleb Caleb has a lot of knowledge on the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: what did I call it, the co oh God? The cobalts, Okay,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: he calls them cobalts, And it's the elves, it's the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: little people, the tricksters, trickster spirits and things like that.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: He has a lot of knowledge on that. I'm gonna
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll bring him on just to talk about that
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: one day, if he can, if he can make it.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: There's just a lot. There's a lot out there, and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: uh and it's all and a lot of this is
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: new to me. Fairies and the faithfolk are not my forte.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about them, but I'm learning.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: I know about the tooth Fairy. She came and saw
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: my son three times this past month, so you know about.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: Her every day. And that's what makes this all fun.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: It does, yes, it does. It stays fun too. Oh
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: and the Grimlins. Okay, somebody said Grimlins. Guya love, She says, yeah,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: mission Grimlins. I was thinking about the Grimlins too, you
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: know you're are you familiar with the Gremlins movie?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: John?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay? Could those be pukas? I don't what do
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: you think.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Behaviors?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, Okay, Jay True Seeker says, don't
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: forget the Tate Dwin day of Belize. Now, Dwin Days
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: are like these little little people too, Okay, like they're
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: a little hairy kind of harry, I think, but those
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: are little people as well, and so that that could
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: probably be a pookah as well. Okay, So I'm I'm
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: so behind on the chat. I'm trying. I'm trying to
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: kind of scroll through so I don't forget anything before
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: we go tonight. Because this has been a fantastic conversation.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: We always have a great, fantastic conversation every time you
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: come on, John, and that you are very much appreciated.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: It is it is.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: I saw Amy come in here too, so hey, Amy,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I think, oh here's Oh thank you. Amy says she's quiet,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: but she's been in here, So thank you, Amy. I
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thank you for the supersticker. That's very sweet
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, wonderful, thank you for being here. Yeah,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we if we take a minute and
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: like assess, like all these movies that are out, the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: movies that we grew up with, Like I mean, I'm
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: thinking about like a vampire movie, like The Lost Boys,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Silver Bullet, that movie. We took them as beings being fiction,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: but I think they could be.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Fat was such a film and thea it was unbelievably wonderful.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: From a guy that likes vampires.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that movie. I absolutely love it. I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: had a meme on my on my Instagram of their
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: day and it said it was like nineteen eighty seven,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: before all the vampires well started wearing glitter, basically is
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: what it said. Says something different too, but it was funny.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: But it was like, you know, before they became sparkly. Okay,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Vampires may have always been sparkly in
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, they were like hair band metal. Yeah,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, right, that's right.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I've talked about Saint Jermaine quite a bit, and I
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: know you're pretty familiar with Saint Jermaine. I know it's
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: not our topic tonight, but we're at the end of
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: the show and I don't know. Maybe we should go
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Van Prior hunting sometime, John, What do you think?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I would love to. I was talking with Matt
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: and he wants to come down to He wants us
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: to go down to New Orleans because there are a
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: couple of places we want to go and we want
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: to explore the Cooper brothers, who are terrifying. But yeah,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I would love for us to go do some of that.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: I have an old book that I got about twenty
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: five years ago, and there are it seems as though
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: some vampires in Charleston and near Greenville. That's the most
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: that I will say, and yeah, we'll discuss that.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: I would love to, especially if we can find something
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: South Carolina, the Charleston area is old enough that there
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: are potentially some.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Entities like that awaken alive and down there at least
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: alive at night.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, watch your protect your neck.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Actually one of my one of my friends has been
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: attacked by a vampire before, maybe potentially in the astral
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: or something. But she was under spiritual attack and she
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: would wake up it in the morning and the inside
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: of her lip would be bloody and cut. And she
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: said that that's actually how a real vampires will come
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: in and they'll bite you in your inner lip, not
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: your neck. That's something new that I learned. I know,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I had never heard that before. So and bless her heart,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: she's she's been She's that was bad. That was a
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: bad spiritual attack she got under. But she was convinced
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: it was a vampire, some kind of vampire entity. So, yeah,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: we protect yourself everybody.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I do have a show on that where Dennis came on.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: We talked about spiritual self defense against dark magic. That
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: was about a week or two ago. Y'all go back
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: and watch that. It was on a glitch in the matrix.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: That's the very when we talked about the horned humans,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: the skulls and the skeletons that were found that had
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: horns on them, and some of these big mounds up
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania. But yeah, fun stuff. Okay, John, what
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: do you think? Do you have any final thoughts about
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: what we talked about tonight?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: Keep your eyes and your ears open, keep your keep
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: your Gideon's Bible next to you to make sure nothing
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: bad happens. I'm sorry, I do, and just watch and
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: do your research. Be careful, don't don't get involved in
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: things that can potentially be very dangerous where you don't
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: know the entities you're being involved with. That that is
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: I think, and I believe you'll agree with me. Be
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: careful about getting involved with things of which you are
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: not sure. Do you agree, Jessica?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, I mean I'm not sure about anything I do.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: But anyways, but yeah, I know what you mean. Yes,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: just what we know what you're dealing with. Know what
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: you're dealing with, and UH and and stay preyed up
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and with UH put as much spiritual and energetic protection
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: around you that you can. And like I said, Uh,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: there are some tips on that show that I did
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: with Dennis. It's titled Horned Skulls or Horned Giant Giants Unearthed. Okay,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: that's the name of that show. Go back, and it's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: towards the end we discussed the spiritual self defense protection
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: self protection. All right, Well, this has been awesome, John.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed having you here tonight, so thank you
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: for being here. Can you enjoy well?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Would you like to tell the audience where they can
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: find you and tell them about your books and all
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: the conferences that you have coming up.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, the conferences are going up on the website tomorrow.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: But go to scarycast dot com and you can see
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: where to get my latest book, Look Up in the Sky.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: The new book Last Night Ground Zero Applied Love. The
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: new book Mind Technologies, will be out October first. It
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: will be available on Amazon. John LeMay will be the editor.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: He's already editing the first fifty percent of the book
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: and he's doing a great job and I appreciate him.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: So we're going to have a new book, Mind Technologies.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: It will all it will include the Taupa, it will
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: include here's an old here here's a proof copy Mind Technologies,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: and it will include now sing, it will include program
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: introduction to radionics, and wrote remote viewing and mind speak.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Spoke about mind and speak for two hours last night.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: It was fun. So yeah, there's a lot of stuff.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: And so the whole purpose of this book is to
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: let people know what your mind can do.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, your mind, your you guys are we are so powerful.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Your mind is so powerful. If you had any clue
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: of how powerful you were, you would you'd be manifesting
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: every And I know I haven't manifested my complete, wonderful,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: most abundant reality yet, but I'm working on it and
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's happening every day. It's there. And uh, and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: so if you just knew how powerful it was we
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: could our lives would be much different, all of us,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: including myself.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I did manifesting this past Friday and I was successful
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: and I'll.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Share Okay, wonderful. Yeah. Well John John puts on a
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: lot of conferences. Okay, you put on a lot of conferences. Uh,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: And I am lucky enough to be able to present
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: at a lot of those conferences. So thank you for
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: including me. Uh, I get to be at your Yeah,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: You're a great presenter and people enjoy you, and uh,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: I enjoy hearing what you have to say.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, there's always something to say, that's the thing.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I never I've never ran out of any thing to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: talk about. And uh, we're always I'm always out in
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: the field doing research and chasing dog man, finding dragons,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, going into caves with skin walkers and
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: you know, hooping at bigfoot and stuff. So uh, there's
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: never I never, there's never a dull moment. So thank
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: you for including me. And uh, and I was I'm
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: always impressed because people come from all over the country
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: to come see us at these conferences and stuff, and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: it's very humbling, it really is. And so thank you
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: for giving us that outlet, John, uh and where we
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: can fellowship and get to see everybody in person. It
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: really makes all the difference. So thank you. And uh
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, well you guys go check out scarycast dot com,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: go purchase John's books. John's gonna be back, John, You're
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: gonna have to come back on soon with another.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I write articles, and that's where I get my material
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: to talk about as soon as article. As soon as
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: I get mine mind technologies.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, please do and you're you're talking about remote viewing.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: That's my forte. That's what I like to do, so yes,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: So thank you John, all right, and thank everybody for
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: being here tonight. Y'all are the best. I want to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: thank everybody for all the superstickers and I'll see us.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you for gifting of the membership there, and I
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: hope you got yourself one too. I hope you did,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: and thank you. I want to thank all my channel
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: members today to thank y'all so much, and thank you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: to all the channel members who got intuitive readings with
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: me when I did my special this week. I'm going
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: to be working on those tomorrow and on Monday, so
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: I did. I did get quite a few, so I'm
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: going to be hard at work next two or three
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: days working on those, so expect those this week. I'll
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: get them out this week. And y'all remember I'm not
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: gonna I don't have my show at Space Out Radio anymore,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: so I won't be here tomorrow or there tomorrow night,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: but i'll be back here on Wednesday on a glitch
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: in the main tricks. So I will see you guys then,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: and John, we'll see you what about your YouTube channel?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Are you still you're still putting out shows on your
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: To almost all of all of them. They're on iHeart
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Radio and then they're also video on YouTube channel is.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, and it's a big foot in company on YouTube.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: So you guys go subscribe. My son and myself we
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: have both been interviewed on your channel, and so it's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: a it's a good channel. Our friend Matthew Dell friend
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: of the shows on there pretty regularly too. So y'all
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: go check that out and be sure to like and subscribe,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: shares videos out to you and.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Ben.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful. Well, I can't wait. I can't wait, all right, everybody, Well,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: y'all have a wonderful night. Thank you so much for
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: spending your Saturday here with us over on the channel.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: It always means a world to me and you guys,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: stay safe out there. Stay safe. There's so much weird
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: stuff going on. There's so many weird things out there,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: and don't live in fear, don't. And yeah, stay tuned.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: We've got more more rabbit holes that go down next week,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: all right, So I will see you guys next week. John,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I will see you next time. I'll talk to you
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and have a great night. All right, bye y'all.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: Thanks Johns, the most.
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