Latest / Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD / Autism vs Aspergers (What YOU NEED To Know)
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- 0:00You have arrived. Welcome to the Aspy world.
- 0:04Here's where we talk about anything and everything ASD in
- 0:07an upbeat and informative way. And now here's your man on the
- 0:11spectrum, your autism ambassador, Daniel Morgan Jones.
- 0:19But so here's the difference between autism and Asperger's
- 0:22syndrome. I'm covering all that right now.
- 0:24So guys, have you ever thought to yourself, hey, I've heard the
- 0:27term Asperger's syndrome and I've also heard the term autism.
- 0:30And you're like, well, they can't be the same thing, can
- 0:32they? Or can they be?
- 0:33Or what's the difference? And how do we have one person
- 0:36diagnosed autism and the other person diagnosed Asperger's, And
- 0:38then the person with Asperger's syndrome says, hey, I'm
- 0:41autistic. It can get very confusing.
- 0:43And if you're like me, when I first heard both those terms, I
- 0:46was a bit kind of miffed. Don't breaking all that down
- 0:48right now and explaining everything about that in this
- 0:50video. So I was actually diagnosed with
- 0:52Asperger's syndrome initially. I had an updated diagnosis with
- 0:55autism's function disorder at level 2, which I'll get into a
- 0:58little bit more in a minute. But the most interesting fact is
- 1:02a miscommunication to a lot of people are a myth that people
- 1:04believe for the reasons of not using the term ospreidges, which
- 1:08I'll cover right at the end of the video because I feel I
- 1:10actually honestly feel like a lot of people have no idea why
- 1:13the term isn't used that much anymore.
- 1:14But let's get into that right now.
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- 1:32I do daily videos on there too. OK, so First off, let's think
- 1:35about autism, right? Straight off the bat, the
- 1:39Asperger's syndrome is a type of autism, right?
- 1:42A type of autism. Now in 2013, the DSM, which is
- 1:47like the manual for like diagnosing mental health
- 1:50conditions and neurological conditions in the US, the manual
- 1:53basically said, hey, it's too confusing having all this stuff,
- 1:57We'll just put it all into one and call it the autism spectrum
- 1:59disorder. So you can have autism spectrum
- 2:01disorder level 1-2 and three, and anybody diagnosed or would
- 2:05have been diagnosed Asperger's syndrome will be put into the
- 2:07level 1 or level 2. The people who have more severe
- 2:09needs will put into the category of Level 3.
- 2:12So what does this mean and how does historically this add up
- 2:15and make the equivalent of the understanding of autism or
- 2:18Asperger's syndrome? So let's go through autism.
- 2:22Autism comes from a Kenner's infantile autism from a guy
- 2:26called Leo Kenner. Now Leo Kenner was researching
- 2:28autism in 1940, two 1943, round about the same time that Hans
- 2:32Asperger, an Austrian physician and psychologist psychiatrist
- 2:37was also researching this stuff. Now, Leo Kenner, there's a lot
- 2:40of speculation about this. He was taking some of the
- 2:42information from Hans Asperger and some of the information he
- 2:45was doing research on his own. And the same with Hans Asperger.
- 2:48I think there's a crossover where they kind of looked at
- 2:50each other's stuff and took some of the ideas and stuff and
- 2:53whatnot. Now, both of these gentlemen at
- 2:56the time were just looking at kids who are male who had
- 3:01specific issues in the triad of impairment, which basically
- 3:03means like social communication and sentry issues and a bunch of
- 3:08other stuff, right? That kind of categorised this
- 3:10typical behaviour where they were almost in their own world.
- 3:13And the term autism comes from Altos, which is a Greek word for
- 3:16being alone or by one's self, right?
- 3:19So that's where it comes from because often you'll hear
- 3:21somebody say autistic people are alone, you know, in their own
- 3:24world, which is really interesting.
- 3:25So if you've ever come across an autistic person who categorized
- 3:29as being, oh, they're away in their own world.
- 3:31Oh, This is why. And this is kind of why the
- 3:33information of autism kind of takes flight of where the name
- 3:35actually comes from. Now, what is the difference
- 3:38between autism and Aspergers? Well, they were categorized into
- 3:41two sections. OK, So you had Canada's
- 3:44infantile autism, which was looking at people who had really
- 3:47high support needs or what was called classic autism, right?
- 3:50Where they would probably have speech and language issues that
- 3:53have delayed speech and language.
- 3:55As in like it would take them a long time to get up to that
- 3:57speed. Meaning, you know, in school,
- 3:59typically they'd be behind in development and they'd probably
- 4:02have some other learning issues, right?
- 4:03And on top of that, they'd also have social communication issues
- 4:07where typically it's not just speech and language, it's the
- 4:09communication part, which would be really difficult.
- 4:11So they'd have to have quite excessive support to get them
- 4:13through what would typically be seen as average for children.
- 4:17Now, Asperger's syndrome, which is also classified as high
- 4:21functioning autism, which was basically people who were
- 4:24similar in the fact that they couldn't communicate socially
- 4:27and they had difficulties in social communication.
- 4:29They had difficulties in making friends.
- 4:31They had difficulties in, you know, maybe other kind of issues
- 4:35like dyslexia, reading the writing, they had issues with
- 4:37eye contact and they were also displaying these kind of traits
- 4:41of intenseness within oneself, which is quite an interesting
- 4:45concept of why autism is quite startingly obvious when it is
- 4:48obvious. But the difference was the
- 4:50people with Asperger's syndrome or the people diagnosed
- 4:52Asperger's syndrome or diagnosed high functioning autism were
- 4:55able to go about and do more tasks.
- 4:56They could hold down a job, They could walk around and operate
- 4:59within a classroom without 24/7 support.
- 5:02Similar to, you know, how the people with the classic autism
- 5:05or low functioning autism would need 24/7 support.
- 5:10So you had people displaying 2 characteristics of the same
- 5:13thing, however one was able to operate manually in a in an
- 5:18environment typically in reality and understand their position in
- 5:21reality. Like you know I am a person and
- 5:22I sit down here but the other person couldn't communicate
- 5:25themselves or their thoughts at all.
- 5:28So this is how the 2 are split up.
- 5:29So for many years you had Asperger's syndrome, which was
- 5:32the high functioning autism, which is people who like are
- 5:35categorised with things like lack of eye contact, awkward and
- 5:38social situations, sensory processing disorder, love of
- 5:41routine and patterns and obsessive interest and quite
- 5:44intellectually capable. Then you have people with
- 5:47classic autism which came with other things like maybe
- 5:49intellectual disability or global learning delay, you know,
- 5:52speech and language issues, no communication.
- 5:55They they would need help and support to go to the toilet and
- 5:59they'd need 24/7 support. But they also had social
- 6:01communication issues, lack of eye contact, sensory processing
- 6:06issues, love of routine. So you can see how both of these
- 6:10had their own place and position in reality and they were both
- 6:13displaying autistic symptomatic traits or characteristics.
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- 6:43time. Part of it which which defines
- 6:45where they lie on the autism spectrum.
- 6:48When we think about autism as a spectrum, it came down to that
- 6:50when they were saying, well, it's Asperger's syndrome on one
- 6:52side and classic autism on the other side, right?
- 6:54For many years this was the same thing.
- 6:55So you'd be categorized into one of two groups should have
- 6:59classic autism, sorry, classic autism or or Asperger's
- 7:01syndrome. Now when the DSM in 2013 came
- 7:05out and changed what we spoke about earlier when they changed
- 7:07the diagnostics to make sure that Asperger's syndrome was not
- 7:10accredited any more or not used any more, they put it under just
- 7:13autism spectrum disorder. So ASD.
- 7:16So you get anybody with classic autism or high functioning
- 7:19autism or Asperger's would have the same diagnostic, just ASD.
- 7:22And the reason for this, and this is part of the biggest
- 7:24myth, many people in the autism community believe that this was
- 7:29done because Hans Asperger was colluding with the Nazis because
- 7:34he lived in Nazi occupied Vienna, which is in fact
- 7:37incorrect. I have done a deep dive analysis
- 7:40into the 2018 nineteen paper which has done over about 8
- 7:43years that talks about the potential Nazi collision from
- 7:47Hans Asperger and the Nazi occupied Vienna Nazi regime
- 7:52which is unjustified by bit of a witch hunt.
- 7:55But I go into in very detail. It's a 26 minute video.
- 7:57I'm going to leave it in a link above here and in the
- 7:59description down below. And I'll leave it on the end
- 8:01card as well because this is very interesting to see the more
- 8:03in depth understanding of why people don't use Asperger's and
- 8:06was hands Asperger involved with the Nazis.
- 8:07And I give a very fair and biased opinion on that.
- 8:10So they decided that they would take Asperger's out of it, not
- 8:14because of Asperger's potential collusion with the Nazis,
- 8:17Because when people in the United States of America were
- 8:20applying for help support, special educational needs and
- 8:23all the other kind of stuff that you'd need to help support
- 8:25somebody with an autism spectrum disorder in an educational,
- 8:28academic or working environment. The government and the agencies
- 8:31who were doing the healthcare insurances were like, well, this
- 8:35isn't classed as autism, it's as Asperger syndrome.
- 8:37So we can't really give them access to the autism support,
- 8:39right? Which kind of I understand from
- 8:41their point of view, because they're trying to make sure that
- 8:43they don't give out as much help to through insurance because
- 8:46they want to make as much money as possible.
- 8:47So they're trying to kind of keep out as many people as
- 8:51possible, but the people who really needed the support.
- 8:53So they said, well, OK, it is ass verges, but ass verges is
- 8:55part of the autism spectrum disorder.
- 8:57But because that wasn't actually encased within that you didn't
- 9:01have the ability to have the people have access to support.
- 9:05So the DSM were like, OK, well if we just take the term
- 9:08Aspergers obey and anybody who would have that diagnosis, it
- 9:11gets squashed into just autism spectrum disorder.
- 9:14Then everybody who goes for those help and support needs
- 9:18legally through the government or or fiscally through agencies
- 9:21or their insurance companies will get access to our support
- 9:24because it's now just classed as autism.
- 9:26However, this is kind of since backfired.
- 9:29And the reason it's backfired is because a lot of individuals on
- 9:31the autonomous spectrum who are like myself, who maybe have a
- 9:35diagnosis previously of Asperger's syndrome will be, you
- 9:39know, in an environment with someone and you say, oh, I'm,
- 9:41I'm autistic or I have autism, right?
- 9:44And then they'll look at you and be like, well, there's a kid
- 9:46down there that can't speak, has global learning delay, you know,
- 9:49can't go to the bathroom on his own.
- 9:50You're doing pretty good. You know, you hold on a job and,
- 9:52you know, you have a girlfriend or whatever.
- 9:53And then you have to kind of explain, yeah, but it's a bit
- 9:55different, you know, awesome special.
- 9:57But where we used to have the term Asperger syndrome, people
- 9:59would be like, oh, yeah, like, like Elon Musk, right.
- 10:02Or, you know, Dan Aykroyd or Eminem.
- 10:03Like they get it because it had a, a nomenclature fixture that
- 10:07was allowing you to identify the person's level of support needs
- 10:11with that nomenclature. So there has been a big kind of
- 10:14backlash and as and as an ongoing debate, you know, do
- 10:16they bring back the term Asperger syndrome?
- 10:17Do we get rid of it completely? Do we keep ASD?
- 10:19Do we change it to ASC? Because a lot of people kicking
- 10:22up a stink saying it should be brought some special condition,
- 10:24not disorder, because disorder's negative, blah, blah, blah.
- 10:26And it's a large discussion. And you can drop a comment down
- 10:28below and let me know your thoughts on this because I read
- 10:31every comment. But if you like to identify with
- 10:35Asperger's or have no problem with people using the term
- 10:37Asperger syndrome, just give the video a thumbs up because it
- 10:39will indicate to me how many people don't mind the term
- 10:42because it makes it more or less confusing.
- 10:44It makes it more understanding, right?
- 10:46But there is this, this back and forth argument.
- 10:48Do we get rid of Aspergers? Do we keep ASD?
- 10:50Do we keep ASD? I don't know.
- 10:51What does the future hold? I don't know.
- 10:52But the most important part is that we're helping supporting
- 10:55and understanding those people who have those issues and not
- 10:57really defining them as somebody who uses a term that you don't
- 11:01agree with because a lot of people think that it's because
- 11:04Pantas wig is a nasty that don't use it, which is incorrect.
- 11:06It was done to allow access to support so that people could
- 11:09have access to autism support even no matter where they are on
- 11:12the spectrum, they still get access to the support.
- 11:14But again, since then we've had to have a rediagnosis of all the
- 11:17people who had Asperger's previous diagnosis.
- 11:19And this has caused a massive backlog in jam, especially here
- 11:22in the UK of trying to get an autumn diagnosis.
- 11:24The waiting list is like 2 1/2 to three years to get a
- 11:27diagnosis of autism here in the UK because of this whole change
- 11:31in diagnostic criteria. But what does the future hold?
- 11:33I don't actually know. I don't personally mind if
- 11:35people use the term Aspergers. I don't mind if people use the
- 11:37term house autism with autism, autistic, whatever.
- 11:39Whatever suits you and makes you, you know, whatever you
- 11:42identify with that makes you feel like that's the best way to
- 11:44communicate your needs to somebody.
- 11:46Do that. There should be no issues there.
- 11:47And if you agree, please give us a thumbs up.
- 11:49OK guys, CNN next video. Peace.
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