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Colorado dad Chris Watts claims he killed wife after she strangled girls · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a beautiful young mother of
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Speaker 1: two expecting a baby dead. She goes missing and her
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Speaker 1: husband makes an urgent play for her return. Now we
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Speaker 1: learned the bodies are concealed on a drilling site. The
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Speaker 1: two little girls included ages three and four. Their bodies
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Speaker 1: concealed in that's of crude oil. Right now, a stunning twist.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. Listen. My daddy is a hero. He
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Speaker 1: helps me, girl up, helped me. Um, goodie, daddy, Daddy,
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Speaker 1: I love you. You are hearing the girls singing about
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Speaker 1: their dad. That's Bella and Celeste A just three and four.
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Speaker 1: They are found in that sub crude oil. The pregnant
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Speaker 1: Colorado mom Shenan Watts, buried in a shallow grave at
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Speaker 1: that same oil. Feel we want justice. We are taking
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Speaker 1: your calls. Nine zero nine four nine Crime nine zero
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Speaker 1: nine four two seven four six three. Straight to the
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Speaker 1: Lines is joining me from Atlanta. Michelle. Hi, Michelle, what's
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Speaker 1: your question? Hi? Nancy? Do we know if the husband
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Speaker 1: had any money or mental issue? Michelle? Just stay with me,
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Speaker 1: just for a moment. Michelle, why do you assume that
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Speaker 1: a man has a mental issue. He had a girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: that's his issue. That's the word that he's having an affair. Okay,
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Speaker 1: would you call that a mental issue, Michelle, that's really fat.
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Speaker 1: I would say that's an issue below the belt in
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Speaker 1: his pants, that's the issue. Wow, Michelle, that's not all.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, did you know that in New England Journal
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Speaker 1: of Medicine study. I didn't believe it. I had to
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Speaker 1: bring the author, the researcher, on and question her before
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Speaker 1: I believed that the number one cause of death amongst
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Speaker 1: pregnant women is homicide. Shannan was about fifteen weeks pregnant
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Speaker 1: with a baby boy. She had two girls, baby boy. Oh, Michelle,
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Speaker 1: they had the whole thing. That's Saturday. They were having
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Speaker 1: the revealed party. She never made it. What about that?
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Speaker 1: That's so? This is this is this is really horrible.
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Speaker 1: I really hope they find justice. And do you have children?
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Speaker 1: Do you have children? Yes? I do, yes. I Well,
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Speaker 1: if you're like me, I remember having those sonograms and
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Speaker 1: I was in a very high risk pregnancy, and I
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Speaker 1: would will look at those sonograms and I will never forget.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know I was having twins. Then I found
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Speaker 1: out that was a shock, and I'm thinking, how am
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Speaker 1: I gonna use all the love I had planned to
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Speaker 1: lavish on one child and split it. I didn't know that.
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Speaker 1: Like in the Grinch, your heart just gets bigger. But
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Speaker 1: then I remember when I went to the doctor and
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Speaker 1: they said baby b as in brother had disappeared, that
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Speaker 1: that was a common phenomena amongst twins. One child would
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Speaker 1: just go away during the pregnancy. And I remember I
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Speaker 1: was just heart broken. And I didn't know these children.
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Speaker 1: I knew nothing about them except the pictures on the sonogram,
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Speaker 1: and that's what she had. Shannan had the sonogram pictures
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Speaker 1: of the baby. She was so excited. They had already
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Speaker 1: picked out a name, Nico. Michelle. So that in connection
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Speaker 1: with the stats that the number one cause of death
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Speaker 1: amongst pregnant women is homicide, I don't know. Is that
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Speaker 1: a mental issue, Michelle? No, I don't think so that
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Speaker 1: is below the belt. Hey hey, Jackie pulled that sound
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Speaker 1: for me where Shannan is showing the girls telling the
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Speaker 1: girls she's going to have the baby. Not only that, uh, Michelle.
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Speaker 1: In Atlanta, the wife wasn't just killed. The children weren't
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Speaker 1: just killed the way their bodies were disposed of out
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Speaker 1: in an oil field. I mean, just think about it.
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Speaker 1: I know nobody wants to think about it, but submerging
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Speaker 1: your baby's body down into crude oil, that's so everyone
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Speaker 1: doesn't smell as your baby decomposes. I'm a listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Guess what, girls, mommy has a baby in her belly.
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Speaker 1: Are you guys excited? Yes? Are you really excited? Oh?
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Speaker 1: My goodness, don't give me a hut. Oh I love you.
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Speaker 1: I love you. Ella. Now when you listen to her
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Speaker 1: telling the husband, he's just like, awesome, that's Oh, you've
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Speaker 1: got it. Jack, listen to this. I like that shirt
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Speaker 1: really really all. Yeah, that's awesome, Michelle. How am I
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Speaker 1: going to be able to explain that to my girlfriend?
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Speaker 1: What about that? He did not sound excited? No, he
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Speaker 1: didn't sound excited. I don't have to be a voice
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Speaker 1: analyst to figure that out. Let me ask you a
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Speaker 1: question more formally to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: Ellen Kilauren. Ellen, I'm gonna get back to what we
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Speaker 1: know about the crimes. First. I want to know, how
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Speaker 1: do you know he was having an affair? Where is
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Speaker 1: that even coming from? Investigators found that he was having
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Speaker 1: an affair. He initially denied it um but according to
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Speaker 1: the arrest of David, I do think that he did
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Speaker 1: confirm that it's that it had happened. They had access
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Speaker 1: to everyone's phone and a two day investigation revealed that
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Speaker 1: he wasn't back having an affair with a co worker.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to a friend of Shenan Watts. This
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Speaker 1: this Nicole Atkinson speaking to our friend Clayton Sandale at nightline. Listen.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't being the loving Chris that he normally was.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't touching or hugging or doing stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: and he wasn't being as attentive as the girls as
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Speaker 1: he would normally as did she suspect he might have
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Speaker 1: been cheating. There was speculation, but she didn't want to
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Speaker 1: believe that either. So you're listening to her friends. So, Michelle,
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Speaker 1: while I've got you, how can you tell when a
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Speaker 1: man is cheating? They definitely become withdrawn, That's all you
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Speaker 1: can say. They quit, well, other things I'm more important.
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Speaker 1: You're not probably going to have sex, and they're not
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Speaker 1: going to touch you. They're not going to be lucky Dubby.
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Speaker 1: None of that here. He wasn't paying as much attention
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Speaker 1: to the children, and Shanan had noticed. But you know
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Speaker 1: the whole thing about the sex, who whoa, whoa, whoa whoa,
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Speaker 1: Miss Michelle, because she's fifteen weeks pregnant. Hello, something happened
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Speaker 1: That tells me a lot about him. He's playing two
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Speaker 1: women like a fiddle, two women like a fiddle. One
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Speaker 1: is pregnant and he's sleeping with the other one. So
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Speaker 1: to Ellen Claurin, you're telling me he confess and that's
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Speaker 1: the motive. He couldn't just get a divorce. Ellen, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. And like you said, maybe the
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Speaker 1: pregnancy was a surprise for him. We don't We don't know.
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Speaker 1: We could only speculate at this point, Ellen, Ellen, Ellen,
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Speaker 1: the pregnancy was his surprise was a surprise. Ellen. You
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Speaker 1: know where babies come from? Right? Do I need Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, the forensis expert to explain to where babies
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Speaker 1: come from. You don't just sleep with somebody to go
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Speaker 1: what you're praying? How did that happen? Well, I think
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Speaker 1: they teach you in fifth grade or sixth grade how
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Speaker 1: that happens. But I know this when I hear this,
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Speaker 1: it nearly breaks my heart. Listen, my daddy is that here.
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Speaker 1: He helps me go up, He helps me good. Chill.
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Speaker 1: Office filed formal charges against Christopher Lee Watts. The charges
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Speaker 1: that we filed are as follows, three counts of murder
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Speaker 1: in the first degree after deliberation, one count naming Shennan Watts,
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Speaker 1: one count naming Bella, one count naming Celeste. Each of
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Speaker 1: those is a Class one felony. We also filed two
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Speaker 1: counts the first gree murder of a child under the
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Speaker 1: age of twelve by a person in a position of trust. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: you can tell, based upon the elements of those in
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Speaker 1: the description that those counts named Bella and Celeste as victims.
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Speaker 1: Those are both also Class one felonies. We filed one
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Speaker 1: count of unlawful campering excuse me, unlawful termination of a
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Speaker 1: pregnancy in the first degree, which is a Class two
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Speaker 1: felony as a result of Shenan being pregnant at the
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Speaker 1: time of her death. We filed three counts of ampering
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Speaker 1: with a deceased human body, each of which is a
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Speaker 1: Class three felony, each of whis each of which count
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Speaker 1: obviously names Shenan, Bella and Celeste. As victim, you are
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Speaker 1: hearing the announcement of three murder charges leveled against loving
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Speaker 1: husband Christopher Watts. His wife found buried fifteen weeks pregnant
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Speaker 1: in a shallow grave on the property of Anna Darko
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Speaker 1: Oil and drilling nearby. His two little girls, Bella and Celeste,
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Speaker 1: dead bodies submerged in a vat of crude oil. We
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Speaker 1: are taking your calls nine oh nine four nine crime
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Speaker 1: nine oh nine four nine two seven four six three.
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Speaker 1: Let's go straight out to the lines. Chris calling in. Hello, Chris,
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Speaker 1: what's your question? What was the motive? Well, Chris, Um,
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Speaker 1: you know there's never a decent motive for murdering. I
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Speaker 1: don't mean to argue with you, but are you suggesting
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Speaker 1: when people ask me what's the motive? Like, is there
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Speaker 1: a good motive for murder? But here we know as
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Speaker 1: I was just explaining that there apparently had been an
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Speaker 1: affair and while she, the wife, was so excited about
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Speaker 1: being pregnant for the third time, I don't think he
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Speaker 1: was that excited. I mean, Chris, let me ask you,
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Speaker 1: are you married? Yeah? Well that doesn't sound very enthusiastic. Um,
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Speaker 1: I hope your wife's not listening. Have you ever been divorced.
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Speaker 1: I'm going through a divorce now, Oh okay, that okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, now I can understand the the less less
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Speaker 1: than enthusiastic response, Why why why have you decided to
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Speaker 1: seek a divorce instead of just why to just kill
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Speaker 1: your wife? I'm doing the right thing. I don't think
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Speaker 1: the killing would be the right thing. You do the
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Speaker 1: right thing, and a divorce, well, that's why it's not
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Speaker 1: the right thing. And now this guy's looking at the
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Speaker 1: death penalty and here's the kicker. But as as to
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Speaker 1: your question, I think he didn't one another child. They
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Speaker 1: had had a bankruptcy and it managed to rack up
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Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of dollars of debt. Since then, the
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Speaker 1: wife goes to work and starts bringing in more money
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Speaker 1: than him and traveling. All that together spells trouble. Ellen
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Speaker 1: to Lauren joining me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about I want to go
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Speaker 1: into her travel and how that affected the marriage, But
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Speaker 1: what can you tell me about their debt? We know
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Speaker 1: that they filed for bankruptcy and two thousand, fifteen UM
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Speaker 1: and at that time they claimed that they only had
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Speaker 1: a few hundred dollars in the chucking account and almost
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Speaker 1: no money in savings, student loans, credit card debt, mortgage payments,
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Speaker 1: two kids. Um, they were just really really overwhelmed. We
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Speaker 1: do know in the next couple of years the situation
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Speaker 1: changed a little bit, and that's largely because Nan ended
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Speaker 1: up getting a good job that seemed to have paid
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Speaker 1: her a good salary and gave them a lot of
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Speaker 1: extra perks. But Chris's income seems to have dipped a
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Speaker 1: little bit over the years, and we're not sure why
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Speaker 1: that is, because he was at the same job, same company,
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Speaker 1: a good job with a good salary. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: eighty grand, eighty thousand dollars a year. She was part
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Speaker 1: of one of the health supplement patches. In fact, in
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Speaker 1: some of her photos I've looked at online on Facebook,
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Speaker 1: she's pointing to it a little patch, you know, like
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Speaker 1: people used to wear. We'll still do the Nico Durm
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Speaker 1: patch to get rid of smoking. This was a tiny
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Speaker 1: square patch of health supplement. But part of it was
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Speaker 1: like am wey. You not only sell the product, but
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Speaker 1: you recruit other people, and then the more you recruit,
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Speaker 1: the higher you go up the pyramid, and more people
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Speaker 1: under you. You take a cut of everything they bring
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Speaker 1: in as well, a tiny percentage, so it's incentive for
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Speaker 1: you to recruit more people. So she was traveling to
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Speaker 1: exotic locations recruiting. She would post those pictures being a
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Speaker 1: full time mom in the last hours. Guys, the development
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Speaker 1: is her father, Shanan's father breaking down, full on crying
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Speaker 1: in court, the son in law, Christopher Watts, showing up
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Speaker 1: in shackles. The dad sobbing in court because now Christopher Watts,
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Speaker 1: the husband has jumped up and said that he yes
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Speaker 1: killed his wife after he saw her on the baby
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Speaker 1: cam strangling the two daughters. Well, when Shananne's father hears this,
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Speaker 1: he just breaks down and cries. The father of murder,
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Speaker 1: Shannan Watts, weeping silently and uncontrollably. His son in law,
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Speaker 1: Christopher Watts, facing nine felony charges. The fifty five year
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Speaker 1: old dad just crying as Judge coup Cow read out
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Speaker 1: the charges against Watts. Three counts of murder one two
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Speaker 1: of those the children terminating a pregnancy, three counts of
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Speaker 1: tempering with bodies. The brother of Shannen, I'm watching him
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Speaker 1: right now, rubbing the dad's back, patting him on the
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Speaker 1: shoulder as the husband just sits there. He wouldn't even
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Speaker 1: look up. He wouldn't even look up at anyone in
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Speaker 1: the courtroom joining me. Joseph Scott, Morgan, Vincent Hill, Ashley Willcott,
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Speaker 1: Karen Stark, Ellen Colauren just got Morgan. In a bizarre,
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Speaker 1: bizarre request, the defense demands that the medical examiner swab
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Speaker 1: the girls next, claiming they think there will be touch
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Speaker 1: of d N A there. Clearly what they're going at
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Speaker 1: is trying to suggest that the mothers strangled the girls.
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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you that didn't happen, Joe Scott.
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Speaker 1: But what do you think is behind this unusual request? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that they're trying to to you know, they're
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Speaker 1: they're trying to play defense from the beginning. Uh. Here,
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Speaker 1: they're trying to also suggest that it could have been
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Speaker 1: another perpetrator that may have come into the home. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's fantastical. First off, you know, we
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Speaker 1: don't need to judge in the medical legal community coming
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Speaker 1: in and telling us how to do our job. And
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Speaker 1: the morgue in a case like this would be standard
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Speaker 1: operating procedure not only to to swab for DNA, but
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Speaker 1: also to do a rape kit. We don't need someone
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Speaker 1: and telling us to do that. Well, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Do you typically swab
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Speaker 1: someone's neck? Do we typically swab someone's neck? Well, if
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Speaker 1: there's an indication that there's trauma there, yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: that that would be standard operating procedure. Okay. I think
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Speaker 1: what the defense is doing is just trying to put
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Speaker 1: it out there and get it in the court of
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Speaker 1: public opinion, trying to suggest Shenan comes home from out
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Speaker 1: of town, the husband tells her he's leaving her for
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Speaker 1: the other woman, so she kills the children. Oh uh
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Speaker 1: uh oh h e double l No, it wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: the children. I'd kill you know what? My husband uh
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Speaker 1: talking to him and he said, so and so has
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Speaker 1: an open marriage, Ashley Wilcott, I said, the day you
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Speaker 1: asked for an open marriage, you can count on an
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Speaker 1: open caskets. How about that, Ashley, Oh my god, I
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Speaker 1: think brother and Nancy earlier when you asked the caller,
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Speaker 1: you know, what is what kind of man cheats? I'm
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Speaker 1: like one that's breathing. I don't really literally mean that. Men,
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Speaker 1: gentlemen listening in those on the phone. I'm just saying
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Speaker 1: it is so so so tiring to hear the same
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Speaker 1: old story. And not cheating men murder, not all cheating
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Speaker 1: men murder, but the fact that that was his motivation
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Speaker 1: in this case. And I'm just going to kill the
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Speaker 1: kids and kill my wife. Who does that? Who goes there?
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Speaker 1: This is a crazy, awful, disgusting game. Three murder charges
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Speaker 1: levels against loving husband Christopher Watts, his wife found barried
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Speaker 1: fifteen weeks pregnant in a shallow grave out to the
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Speaker 1: line Stacy in Alabama High Stacy Nancy. Chris Watt is
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Speaker 1: full of crap. He is saying that his wife has
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Speaker 1: strangled the two daughters. That does not add up when
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Speaker 1: you look at the timeline and when she got home
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Speaker 1: and when there there's not enough time for that to
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Speaker 1: strangle these shell drene then too for her to go
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Speaker 1: put them in a barrel, and and then there to
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Speaker 1: be an altercation with this horrible murderer than him to
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Speaker 1: murder her and then bury her. The timeline does not
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Speaker 1: add up. I listened to you every day. I adore you.
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Speaker 1: I stopped you in the hall at crime con. I
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Speaker 1: told you how much I love the Haley Dan Mysteries
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you, Nancy. You are not dealing with
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Speaker 1: this bull crap. You do not believe it, and neither
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Speaker 1: do I. UM. It's just it's it's insulting what he
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Speaker 1: is expecting not only a grand jury to believe, but
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Speaker 1: the general public to believe. So UM, I'm here with
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Speaker 1: you and I am listening daily, sister. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: seeking the truth, number one. Thank you for everything you
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Speaker 1: just said. And I remember meeting you at crime kind
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Speaker 1: in the hall by the way. Thank you for calling in.
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Speaker 1: And I want to go through what you just said
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Speaker 1: when they take this to a jury, and they will
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Speaker 1: because he's going to be looking at the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: This is mass murder under the Code book. Anything more
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Speaker 1: than one body is mass murder, and that's a qualifier
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Speaker 1: for the death penalty, a special aggravating circumstance, along with
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Speaker 1: killing someone under a certain age, which these children qualify for.
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Speaker 1: But to be they're locked into this now, they're locked
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Speaker 1: into this because this is what he told cops. That
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Speaker 1: she killed the children and then he killed her and
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Speaker 1: disposed of all the bodies. What an insult to the
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Speaker 1: memory of Shane. We have been able to recover the
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Speaker 1: body that we're quite certain body. We have a strong
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Speaker 1: reason to believe that we know where at the bodies
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Speaker 1: of the children are and recovery efforts are in process
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Speaker 1: on that. They're doing their best right now to figure out,
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Speaker 1: like if they can get a sent see where they went,
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Speaker 1: if they went on foot, they went in a car,
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Speaker 1: they went somewhere. She wasn't here, the kids weren't here,
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Speaker 1: nobody was here, did you guys canting argument before? It
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Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't like an argument. We had emotional conversation.
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Speaker 1: But I'll leave it at that. But it's I just
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Speaker 1: want them back. I just I just want them to
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Speaker 1: come back. And if if they're not safe right now,
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Speaker 1: that's what's that's what's tearing me apart, because if they
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Speaker 1: are safe, they're coming back. But if they're not, this
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Speaker 1: this this has got to stop. Like somebody has to
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Speaker 1: come forward, just come back, Like if somebody has her,
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Speaker 1: just please bring her back. I need to see everybody.
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Speaker 1: I need to see everybody again. This house is not
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Speaker 1: complete with without anybody here. Please bring it back. I'm
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Speaker 1: watching him as he speaks, and the whole time he's speaking,
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Speaker 1: he's shaking his head. No, that is from my friends
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Speaker 1: at k mg H. He has his arms crossed in
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Speaker 1: front of him. He's going back and forth from left
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Speaker 1: foot to right foot, and the whole time he's saying,
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Speaker 1: bring them back, bring them back, he's shaking his head. No, Well,
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Speaker 1: now we know why. He knows they're not coming back.
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Speaker 1: He knows where they are. They are buried on an
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Speaker 1: oil field, the children in vats of crude oil. Over
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Speaker 1: what un affair? What he didn't want the baby. Then
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Speaker 1: get a divorce and pay through a little child support,
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Speaker 1: you know, drop a stagy pampers on the front porch
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Speaker 1: like half the men that are not paying their child
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Speaker 1: support due I mean, but really strangling her and now
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Speaker 1: at a stunning twist, he puts the blame on her,
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Speaker 1: joining me Ellen Colauri in Crime online dot Com. There
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Speaker 1: you can find the full affidavit. Karen Start, New York
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Speaker 1: psychologists Ashley Willcott, judge lawyer, founder of child crime watch
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Speaker 1: dot com. Vincent Hill caught turned p I, and Joseph's
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Speaker 1: Got Morgen forensics expert, professor at Jacksonville State University and
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Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet. You know, I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out if there's going to be a forensics
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Speaker 1: way to prove this shameful lie is just that a
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Speaker 1: lie with him turning the blame, this killer turning the
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Speaker 1: blame on his wife. To Karen Stark, New York psychologist,
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Speaker 1: he uh, is timeline changed with what he said, and
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Speaker 1: he his own story that he gets she gets sent
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Speaker 1: around one or two o'clock in the morning, and then
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Speaker 1: he leaves for work at five o'clock in the morning
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Speaker 1: and they had this emotional conversation where where that makes
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Speaker 1: his scenario virtually impossible. So, Karen Stark, what do you
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Speaker 1: make of his lies? I'm not at least surprised, are you, Nancy?
23:50
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is a psychopath. He will say
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Speaker 1: anything to make sure that he can escape from being
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Speaker 1: blamed for this. I'm not even surprised that he's now
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Speaker 1: putting it on her and saying, well, he had to
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Speaker 1: kill everybody. Of course, anyone would kill everybody. He had
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Speaker 1: to kill everybody because she was trying to kill the girls,
24:11
Speaker 1: and so he had to kill her, and then he
24:13
Speaker 1: had to go ahead and bury the bodies and not
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Speaker 1: reported to the police. The whole story stinks, but he's
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Speaker 1: very smooth. That's what a psychopath does. They don't just
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Speaker 1: get divorced. They decide that they are going to murder
24:29
Speaker 1: because they don't have a conscience. So why not, let's
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Speaker 1: just get rid of everything and go on with my life.
24:35
Speaker 1: And that's what he did. I really believe that the
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Speaker 1: Colorado husband and father, Christopher Watts, now accused of murdering
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Speaker 1: his pregnant wife and his two little girls, Bella and
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Speaker 1: Celeste before he dumps them in an oil site, now
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Speaker 1: tells cops it was his wife, not him, who strangled
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Speaker 1: the baby girls, and that then he strangled her out
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Speaker 1: of rage. And I'm learning this from an affidavit for
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Speaker 1: arrest that has just been released, and we've gotten it.
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Speaker 1: It's on crime online dot com. Christopher Watts, thirty three,
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Speaker 1: according to Belize, have been having an affair with a
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Speaker 1: co worker. How predictable Vincent hill Cock term. Can a
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Speaker 1: man just surprised me and do something different? You know, Nancy?
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Speaker 1: I I asked that all the time, even when when
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Speaker 1: I was doing p I work in Tennessee. People would ask,
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Speaker 1: I think my spouse is cheating on me? And I
25:26
Speaker 1: would always tell them, if you believe that, chances are
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Speaker 1: they are. Because some of their patterns have changed. There's
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Speaker 1: something that they used to do that they're not doing.
25:34
Speaker 1: But let's be clear about Christopher Watts. I assure you
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Speaker 1: the investigators from day one, we're looking at him, even
25:40
Speaker 1: during his BS interview about bringing them back, because the
25:44
Speaker 1: spouse is always the first person investigators look at. So
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Speaker 1: I don't even think they were buying his story from
25:50
Speaker 1: day one. We don't know that for sure, but if
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Speaker 1: I was an investigator, I wouldn't have bought his story. Ah.
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Speaker 1: He tells police he Chris Watts was looking at the
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Speaker 1: family's baby monitor. Why why is he looking at the
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Speaker 1: baby monitor A number one? And he sees his wife
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Speaker 1: strangling daughter Celeste, age three. The daughter Bella, aged four,
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Speaker 1: was already lying on her bed and appeared blue. Man.
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Speaker 1: That must have been some baby monitor that he could
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Speaker 1: figure all that out. And our baby monitor we had
26:17
Speaker 1: I couldn't see a thing, which is all fuzzy and gray. Um.
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Speaker 1: After that, he says, he goes into a rage and
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Speaker 1: he strangles her. Have fun with that defense attorney that's
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Speaker 1: taking this case. Try to make uh silk purse out
26:33
Speaker 1: of cow's ear on that as you will kint with me,
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Speaker 1: Guennial judge lawyer founder of child Crime watch dot com
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Speaker 1: Ashley Way in this case discuss me. Here's the other thing.
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Speaker 1: I think. I really wonder if he did not murder
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Speaker 1: his two children while she was out of town, and
26:52
Speaker 1: then she came back in town and the gig is up,
26:55
Speaker 1: so to speak, and she realizes what he's done, and
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Speaker 1: he just decides he'll kill her too. I this case
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Speaker 1: sickens me, and I think at the heart of it,
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Speaker 1: we all need to remember it's not just murder of
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Speaker 1: a family, it's child abuse to start and then resulting
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Speaker 1: in murder our nancy even worse. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
27:12
Speaker 1: Let's say the little girls actually walked in on something
27:15
Speaker 1: that was going on between Chris and his wife, and
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Speaker 1: then he says, well, I gotta take care of them
27:20
Speaker 1: because they too could be a witness. Either way, it's sick,
27:23
Speaker 1: but we don't know what happened. But if those little
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Speaker 1: girls saw something, that's the last memory they will ever
27:29
Speaker 1: have a lot of. You know, my part of my story, UM,
27:33
Speaker 1: my health challenges, UM, ad relationships, UM things that could
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Speaker 1: have knocked somebody down completely hardcore. UM. But the thing
27:43
Speaker 1: is is, I believe that everything in life happens for
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Speaker 1: a reason. And I also believe people are placed in
27:48
Speaker 1: our life for a reason. You're hearing Shennan Watts in
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Speaker 1: our own Facebook video post talking about meeting and falling
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Speaker 1: in love with her husband, Christopher Watts, the father of
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Speaker 1: her three children, now accused of her murder and the
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Speaker 1: murders of Bella and Celeste ass three and four and
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Speaker 1: their unborn baby boy. The revealed party was set for
28:10
Speaker 1: that Saturday, said to be named Nico. We are taking
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Speaker 1: your calls straight out to Bob. Hey, Bob, what's your question?
28:20
Speaker 1: All right? Well, I have a comment. I think that
28:22
Speaker 1: the prosecutor, his prosecutor could call on friends and acquaintances
28:28
Speaker 1: of the wife to let everyone know how much she
28:31
Speaker 1: loved her daughters. In other words, um, they can be uh,
28:36
Speaker 1: they can be opposed uh to to the prosecutor simply
28:42
Speaker 1: by by letting people know how much he loved her
28:45
Speaker 1: her daughters. You know, that's a really good defense, especially Ashley,
28:51
Speaker 1: if you pack the jury with moms, all right, moms
28:56
Speaker 1: that there's no way that they would do this to
28:58
Speaker 1: their own daughters. And I mean, if you love your
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Speaker 1: children so much, then don't have an affair and ruin
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Speaker 1: the marriage. It's easy you can go pick somebody up
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Speaker 1: in the potato shipile at at at Kroger or Biggly
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Speaker 1: Wiggily or public. Yeah, there's always somebody you can pick up.
29:13
Speaker 1: But the reason you don't do it, even though you
29:16
Speaker 1: might be mad at your spouse that day, because you
29:18
Speaker 1: don't want every other weekend with your children. If you're
29:21
Speaker 1: lucky Ashley, well, that's if you care about your children,
29:24
Speaker 1: you put them first as a parent. Clearly, clearly this
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Speaker 1: gentleman man. I'm not going to call h a gentleman.
29:28
Speaker 1: He's not. This murder did not care enough about his
29:31
Speaker 1: children to put them first. And that's what it boils
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Speaker 1: down to. If you're gonna put them first, you're not
29:35
Speaker 1: gonna have an affair, you're not going to break up
29:37
Speaker 1: the marriage, and you're not going to murder your family, Ellen,
29:39
Speaker 1: Ellen colauren, Um, you had a question about the potential
29:43
Speaker 1: defense in this case. Yeah, Um, I have a question
29:46
Speaker 1: about how his defense team thinks that they're going to
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Speaker 1: convince a jury that Chris Watts found his wife strangling
29:53
Speaker 1: his two daughters and doesn't call nine one one. How
29:57
Speaker 1: is how are they going to explain? Well, how are
29:59
Speaker 1: they going to do it to you, Joseph Scott Morgan,
30:01
Speaker 1: you're the forensics expert. How are they going to do it?
30:04
Speaker 1: I've got a pretty good idea, but let's here yours. Yeah,
30:07
Speaker 1: you know, I think that they're probably going to talk about,
30:09
Speaker 1: you know, that old legal theory about the heating and
30:12
Speaker 1: cooling of blood. The defense is probably gonna put forward
30:15
Speaker 1: that that he was so impassioned and so enraged he
30:18
Speaker 1: flew up there and and you know, choked out the wife.
30:21
Speaker 1: And they've they've already been saying this, Nancy, over and
30:24
Speaker 1: over again. But it's the dog won't hunt. It's just
30:27
Speaker 1: not gonna hold water. As far as I'm concerned, what
30:30
Speaker 1: about it? It's joining me, Vincent Hill cop turned p
30:34
Speaker 1: I what about it? Yeah, I don't think it's gonna
30:36
Speaker 1: amount to a hill of beings either, Nancy, because I
30:38
Speaker 1: assure you investigators combed through that house looking for all
30:42
Speaker 1: evidence in this case, whether it be fibers, prints, you
30:45
Speaker 1: name it. They're building their case against Chris Watts, and
30:49
Speaker 1: this whole story about his wife choked the girls as
30:51
Speaker 1: a load of crap as far as I'm concerned, and
30:54
Speaker 1: I think the evidence will show it as well. Out
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Speaker 1: to the lines calling from Idaho. Hello, caller, what's your question?
31:01
Speaker 1: Not Colorado father. He's a liar. He killed that family
31:05
Speaker 1: and he's a liar, and nobody's dumb out here. We
31:07
Speaker 1: all know his game. He's he's played it out. Tell
31:11
Speaker 1: him to confess. You know what, You're right. I think
31:14
Speaker 1: that you can see it a mile away that he
31:17
Speaker 1: is lying, and it is in direct contradiction to what
31:21
Speaker 1: he first said, that he came home and they had
31:23
Speaker 1: a quote emotional conversation and then he went to work.
31:26
Speaker 1: It's funny how Karen Stark liars will weave a little
31:30
Speaker 1: bit of truth into what they're saying. I bet they
31:33
Speaker 1: did have an emotional conversation. He told her he was
31:37
Speaker 1: having an affair with a coworker and that he was leaving.
31:40
Speaker 1: I guess that was emotional, but the rest was BS, Karen.
31:44
Speaker 1: And no one's better at doing that, Nancy, than someone
31:46
Speaker 1: who is a psychopath a pathological liar, because they believe
31:50
Speaker 1: their own lives and they get everyone else to believe
31:53
Speaker 1: it because they're such smooth talkers. So yeah, he would
31:57
Speaker 1: have her head on his lap and he would comfort her,
31:59
Speaker 1: and knew could be sure that he is capable of
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Speaker 1: pretending anything that he wants to. We are taking your
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Speaker 1: calls nine nine nine crime nine six three. Let's go
32:11
Speaker 1: to Yodi in l A Hi Yoti. I am completely speachless.
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Speaker 1: I have no words. I don't even know. I can't
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Speaker 1: even believe this. If this is will like, how can
32:25
Speaker 1: you do this to your own children and wife? I
32:29
Speaker 1: believe this guy was she didn't with other women. What
32:35
Speaker 1: he just wants to get rid of them. Don't have
32:39
Speaker 1: to pay tild support or spend any money on them.
32:44
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. Was the case. He should just
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Speaker 1: leave or he should do something to himself, not too
32:51
Speaker 1: his wife and innocent children. This is the worst thing
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Speaker 1: that I've ever seen my whole life. I am completely peachless.
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Speaker 1: I have no words. I just cry cry. Yodi joining
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Speaker 1: us from l A. I I could not agree with
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Speaker 1: you more. Of course, her friends knew something was horribly
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Speaker 1: wrong when she missed a doctor's appointment. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to close friend of Shannanne Watts. This is Nicole Atkinson
33:27
Speaker 1: speaking to our friends at nightline listen. Atkinson had seen
33:31
Speaker 1: Shannan that morning around two am, she says, dropping her
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Speaker 1: off at home after returning from an out of town
33:36
Speaker 1: business trip. She went inside, turned around and waved at
33:38
Speaker 1: me and shut the door. But several hours later, the
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Speaker 1: thirty four year old mother of two isn't answering her phone.
33:45
Speaker 1: She misses a doctor's appointment. Shannan was fifteen weeks pregnant.
33:48
Speaker 1: She was going to get it here the baby's heartbeat
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Speaker 1: and see how he or she was doing. Growing worried,
33:54
Speaker 1: Atkinson says she went over to their house. Things were
33:58
Speaker 1: not how I would things that they were supposed to be.
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Speaker 1: I guess the front door was locked differently than it
34:04
Speaker 1: normally was. I had my son to look in the
34:06
Speaker 1: garage to see if her car was there, and it
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Speaker 1: was there, which was really peculiar because Shenan doesn't go
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Speaker 1: places without her car, usually because both of the girls
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Speaker 1: are in car seats. But then when the same friend,
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Speaker 1: Nicole Atkinson, speaks to Christopher Watts, listen to her reaction.
34:22
Speaker 1: So he tells you everything's normal. She's on a play date.
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Speaker 1: And you didn't buy that, no, because Shenan, like in
34:30
Speaker 1: my mind, I couldn't figure out why she'd go on
34:32
Speaker 1: a play date without her car. So apparently he tells
34:35
Speaker 1: this woman to call Atkinson that they had all gone
34:39
Speaker 1: on a play date and right then she knew it
34:44
Speaker 1: was all a lie. Karen starrk Now, now it's three
34:48
Speaker 1: stories he's told so far, as he just complete psycho. Yeah,
34:52
Speaker 1: I mean he's able to keep coming up with new
34:55
Speaker 1: stories in a way that you would find hard to believe. Nancy,
34:58
Speaker 1: you put this guy in a situation and he will
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Speaker 1: keep coming up with another story that will blame somebody else,
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Speaker 1: that will take it away from him, that will try
35:08
Speaker 1: and show him to be loving and terrific. Because he's
35:10
Speaker 1: capable of doing that. He can do it all. We
35:13
Speaker 1: are talking about the case of Christopher Watts, his wife Shannan,
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Speaker 1: and both children now dead. We wait for justice to unfold.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace signing off. Goodbye friend.