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Burn Baby, Burn: Evil Dead Rise Review & Obsession Review · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  >> So, as you can see, we're here. >> Yes. >> I didn't manage to I did have a single
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  room, but they sort of kicked me out of hospital before we recorded, so >> Okay.
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  >> That's why. And then we had to record a day later cuz I was asleep.
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  >> How'd you go? You're You're here, so >> I'm fine. It doesn't do anything for me.
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  It's weird. Like I I get what you mean. >> No, it's it's not working as much, but I
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  mean like even during the treatment, I'm not as loopy as I once was. >> Oh, I see.
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  >> And even it's sort of weird. Like they even came in like midway and I may
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  having any hallucinations or anything and evidently people don't deal with it
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  quite well and I've never had anything like that. >> Acclimatized to it. So, we should be
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  clarify you're having ketamine infusions or something like >> Ketamine, yes. >> Yeah.
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  >> Yes. >> Luke's got a bad way. >> Matthew Perry, people call it the
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  Matthew Perry. I call it I say he called it the Luke. >> Yeah.
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  Well, if he if he'd done it your way, he'd be around to talk about it.
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  >> fine. I want to know how he gets his hands on it legally though.
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  >> Yeah. Does it So, I mean we should probably be careful about this, but having done it
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  under controlled circumstances for that long, do you know what all the fuss is
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  about or It sounds like no. I was going to say sounds like no.
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  >> I've no idea what the people are going on about. >> Yeah, right.
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  >> Like this is not a drug I would take recreationally. That's a word. >> [laughter]
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  >> Poor. It's having an effect on your speech. >> Because it just it just I don't know. It
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  makes me tired or I don't know if it's that the drug making me tired or the
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  fact that they have to check my blood pressure every 2 hours.
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  >> Right. So, they have to come in and >> me tired. I have to wait for them.
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  >> that without waking you up? Doesn't that pump require you to be awake?
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  >> It doesn't, but I wake up when they enter the room. Oh, I see. There was one
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  >> ninja training. >> Yes. Didn't have a couple of nice nurses
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  who were I'm going to check your blood pressure now. I know you're fine.
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  I'm not going to check it again the rest of the night. >> Oh, okay.
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  >> I'll just stick my head in every now and again to make sure takes they do have to
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  take some readings of the the infusion the drip thing, but I still wake up for that, but
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  >> Man, that's doesn't sound good. >> The nurses are getting to know me, which is weird.
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  >> Yeah. Well, how often do you go in now? >> Um, I don't know. This is the first time
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  I've been in for about a year, but I should be going in every 6 months, but
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  probably sooner now. >> Okay. All right. Well, >> but I made it back.
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  >> Yeah, clearly. >> no episodes because of my trip.
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  >> Not just cuz of America's birthday the week before. Yes. Yeah, I don't know
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  we'll talk about this. I I got to go in for a procedure. I don't know what the
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  [ __ ] going to happen. I've never been to a hospital, so we'll see what happens
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  that week. >> [laughter] >> No [ __ ] idea. See, I've got it easy where I've been in
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  and out of hospital for >> Yeah, yeah. >> 35 years, so >> Yeah, you do the in hospital.
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  >> [laughter] >> Whatever. >> Yeah, it's simple. So, I know the drill.
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  This will be interesting for you. I think the hardest thing will be the fasting.
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  >> Do I have to do that? >> Yeah, you have to fast before you go in for surgery.
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  >> Does it say that? >> Yes, it does. >> I think it says nothing the day of.
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  I think it's what it says. >> yeah, that's it. You can't you don't get
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  to before the surgery. You don't have to fast for like a week or anything. >> Oh.
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  >> The day of you don't eat anything like after midnight. >> Oh, that's fine.
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  >> So, no breakfast, no coffee, you know, nothing. >> That's fine. Yeah, I can do that.
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  >> But that that's the only thing I think will get you.
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  >> I have to do that when I do lab work here for my annual checkups. It's fine, mate.
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  >> Oh, it's fine for me as well, cuz every time I get a blood test where I'm meant
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  to go fasting, well, I don't eat breakfast. >> Yeah. >> Well, I just rock up.
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  >> I do, right? I cannot. It's fine. >> Yeah, I I don't. I just duck over before
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  lunch, get it and go to lunch. >> I just like breakfast. Breakfast is my
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  favorite meal, I think. >> Really? >> Yeah, I breakfast foods I just like.
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  >> I like breakfast foods. I don't like breakfast. >> Yeah, okay.
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  >> Cuz that's more sleep time. >> Yeah, but people think it's Yeah, I
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  don't know. It's hard to make yourself scrambled eggs at lunchtime when you've
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  got a family and everyone's like, "Fucking what that for lunch?"
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  >> I got scrambled eggs this week, it was great. >> What makes it great? Anyway,
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  >> [laughter] >> uh we've been busy bees watching movies.
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  Uh well, you you less so this week. >> Yeah, I I I watched one movie, which I
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  just got back from. >> Uh I also watched that movie, so we
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  could talk about it if you'd like to. I am my daughter is with uh Jen's auntie.
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  >> Okay. >> They went to the beach house. So, um and
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  uh Jen just had surgery on her hand, and I'm >> I'm somewhat incapacitated with my medical
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  >> [laughter] >> issues that >> You're not running around anyway.
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  >> No, I've got my my spine is not cooperating right now. Um
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  So, we're like, "Well, what do we do? Uh how do we exist without a child?
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  Can't remember. What do we do? >> It's been a long time. >> and go to a movie. Like
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  >> Oh, so you went out to the movies? >> Yeah, together. >> Like how?
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  >> Actually, I just go by myself. Um or with friends, but like not with Jenna.
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  Uh so, anyway, yes, we also went and saw Evil Dead Rise. >> What did you think?
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  >> Uh I really liked it. >> I liked it. There were a few scenes that
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  were that was awesome to watch. >> The some of the camera work and like the
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  cinematography in this was like [ __ ] crazy. Like
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  >> It's just the one thing that's really putting in my mind is where the main
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  girl is crawling away and that fight's happening behind her. >> Oh, yeah. That was
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  >> And it's just Yeah, that was >> where she's like crawling through the
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  house and there's like people >> [laughter] >> Being thrown through walls and running
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  away, being chased and yeah, that was that stood out. >> There's one shot where I went
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  we'll try and do no spoilers. >> Yeah, I'm trying.
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  >> Although I mean it's like it's an Evil Dead movie. The spoiler is that the
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  people get possessed by Kandarian demons and then they try
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  >> And the rules sort of change depending on >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it doesn't just just
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  watch the movie. >> Don't [laughter] worry about it too much.
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  >> Actually it's more like with this one I felt like
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  the the plot with the family and stuff was was pretty solid and like it's got
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  themes of like you know domestic abuse and family trauma and stuff like that
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  and I was like, "Oh, okay, this is like a neat way to tie it into the the demon
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  thing and it's kind of like Yeah, I thought that was really cool. But yes, the
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  the the lore of like how the demons work and the book of it's kind of like, "Eh,
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  don't worry about that too >> Yeah, don't worry about like how you kill them is
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  >> Oh, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Like Yeah, sometimes
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  they were dealt with and I was like, "Well, that wouldn't fly in one of the
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  previous movies." Like that >> [laughter] >> that guy's coming back. >> Yeah. >> Um
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  But there's a shot where she the main character is fighting someone, I think
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  it's at the top of the stairs and anyway and you see that they're fighting and
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  then they smash into the mirror. >> Mhm. >> But then it smashes and you realize,
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  "Oh, it was being filmed through the mirror." And then the and then the
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  camera turns and it's like, "Woah, [ __ ] that was cool." Like like the camera was
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  pointed at the mirror >> Yeah, no, they did some great stuff with
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  how that was filmed. Like that was I do call [ __ ] on the
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  how many televisions broke and the fact that they broke in a weird way and I
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  got, "That's just using the force." >> one bit where you Yeah, where she
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  someone hits the TV and this person's smile was on this Yeah, it was I mean, I
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  laughed, it was great. >> I laughed. Anyway, that's a spoiler. The grandmother was funny.
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  >> Yes. >> They got a bit of humor in there every now and again.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah, it's certainly um
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  like the last one was too more like dark than the originals. The originals
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  were dark and scary and and gory, and this is all of those things, but the the originals
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  less so the first one. The first one had some funny stuff. Like the deadites were
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  funny, but like mean. This is just like mostly just mean. >> [laughter]
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  >> Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely it's not the sequel. It's not Evil Dead
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  >> No, Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness are half comedy movies. >> Still my favorites.
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  >> Yeah, of course. Yeah, but and then Ash vs Evil Dead the TV series >> That was
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  >> continued that. Yeah. Yeah, but the new ones like um
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  So there's the one the I forget the year. The one I forget I can't pronounce his first
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  name. Fede Fede Alvarez, the guy who did Alien: Romulus. He did a
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  it was just Evil Dead. It was like a remake. It was really good. >> blood.
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  >> Yes. Yeah, that one was really good, but it was also not funny.
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  >> Yeah, no, they they're not Yeah, the funny was just
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  Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness. Now they're going now it's a horror movie again. That's
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  And I think they're hoping for a sequel. >> Yeah. Yeah, did you watch post-credits?
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  There's post-credits scene, people. So >> Yes, there's two.
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  >> Yes, that's right. There's two. Yes. >> Yes. I always double-check before I go
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  in and sit down at a movie like am I waiting for credits or not? >> Yeah. >> [snorts]
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  >> This one might be the goriest one. It's pretty
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  brutal in parts. Like um >> I just >> warned about that, too. There's some
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  stuff in this that I was just like, "Oh god." >> Like I think one thing I will say like
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  the one where you understand it where he's got the gun and he's shooting.
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  >> Yes, there's that. >> That is gory as hell and oh my god, I've
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  never seen a movie go to that extent. >> I was like, oh that's like, yeah, normally they
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  >> I don't know. Cut away. >> There's a few things in this where it's
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  like times have changed and I think like people are okay, well, obviously this
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  movie is okay with putting things in where they would have been like, oh we
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  probably shouldn't show that, kind of thing. Even when they would show other things. So.
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  >> Yeah. But that's that's the scene. >> was really gruesome and in- intense, I
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  would say violence. >> But yeah, I can't think of another movie
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  that has a scene like that where they actually shot
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  >> yeah, it's emotionally intense in a way that sometimes they don't do that just
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  because it's like, oh that might be too much. This one was like, ah [ __ ] it,
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  we're doing it. >> it, we're doing it. >> Yeah. >> So, look, get out and see it.
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  >> Yeah, it's good. >> Or wait for streaming. >> Yeah. I feel like
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  this this kind of movie will get to streaming pretty quick, I think. Cuz
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  they know that's where the tail of the >> Well, even at the moment like we at the
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  cinemas near me, there it's only one screening a day. >> Oh, okay. We've got
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  >> Cuz I think most of the cinemas are now just the Odyssey.
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  >> Yeah, I'm seeing that this week. >> Yeah, I'm going to try and see it this
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  week cuz someone wrote it in the Discord that I should see it.
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  >> I've got tickets. It's all happening. >> I might see it tomorrow.
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  >> I'm seeing it Wednesday. So, uh we can talk about it next week, hopefully.
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  >> Cuz I'm assuming >> Talk about it in some capacity. Either
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  I'll have seen it or we both will have. >> Cuz I'm assuming no one's going to be at
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  the movies tomorrow during the day and I'm thinking about just not going to work. >> Mhm.
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  >> Cuz my sleep pattern's messed up, so yeah, I just >> take a day off and
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  if I just go and see it, if I check this now, >> You know >> a Christopher Nolan movie.
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  >> I know, but someone in Discord said I have to go and see it.
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  >> I know. I I'm aware. I remember when I put that in there. >> Yep. [laughter]
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  >> Uh if you want to know what the Discord is, just go to patreon.com/multiple nerdgasm
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  multiple nerdgasm. >> Mhm. >> Sign up for free on the Patreon. You
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  don't have to pay anything and you can get access to the Discord and then you
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  can tell Luke what he has to go watch and talk gutters and
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  >> And I'll do it even if I don't want to. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. >> Um
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  Yeah, Jenna's not coming because she doesn't trust Christopher Nolan with a
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  3-hour block of her life these days. So >> I don't blame her.
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  >> She's going to watch it later. >> [laughter] >> I don't trust him at all with anything.
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  >> Uh I do. I do. I've He's never let me down, but then well,
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  the only time I came out of a Christopher Nolan movie going, "I don't
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  know about that." was Interstellar. Uh but then when I rewatched it, I was
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  like, uh no, okay. I was I was I was
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  I not wrong. I was wrong. >> [laughter] >> No, I don't But like I missed something
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  about it the first time and I like, okay, I now I like it. >> And I famously don't go
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  don't do not like going to movies where I have to think about the ending.
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  >> Yeah. Well, I don't know if this is going to be one of those. We'll see.
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  >> He'll He'll do something. >> You've lived the ending of Oppenheimer.
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  So just [laughter] watch that. >> Oppenheimer wasn't bad. I like I liked that, but I
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  >> Yeah. >> I still call [ __ ] on the explosion. >> Oh, you mean
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  >> up to that and go, "It's all physical. It's amazing." >> Yeah.
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  >> It could have been done done better with a bit of a help. It wasn't that impressive.
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  >> No, it's a good It's a nice It's a neat achievement to have been able to to
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  film it and be able to say, "That was all practical." >> Yeah.
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  >> That's pretty cool. But But like you said, yeah, you could have also just
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  CGI'd it, and no one would have known the difference.
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  >> Yeah, it didn't add anything. It didn't look, yeah, amazing. It's just a cool
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  thing to say. >> Yeah, we we did that. >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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  >> Evil Dead Rise, uh a lot of practical effects, mostly. Uh very, very
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  juicy. >> [laughter] >> Practical effects in parts, where it's
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  just it's got a lot of that gross out stuff that Sam Raimi used to be really known for.
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  >> They did do a bit of a >> There's a kissing scene that's disgusting. >> Yes.
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  >> And uh and then um a few things like that where it's just
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  very sloppy, and it and yeah, you can tell it's practical. And it I mean it
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  in those circumstances, it works a lot because you could tell it's not CGI.
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  It's just like, oh, gross. >> And the actor went all in for that. >> Yeah, so
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  in that case, practical effects pay off because it's disgusting. [laughter] >> Yeah.
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  But, you also watched another movie this week. >> I did.
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  >> interested to hear what you think. >> Uh are you talking about Obsession?
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  >> I am talking about Obsession. >> I did, I watched Obsession.
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  Uh I really liked it. I really liked >> wasn't it? >> Yeah. Yeah, very creepy.
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  Um some uh some intense stuff. Mostly just very
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  like creepy and like like disturbing. >> Um yeah.
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  >> Yeah, I really liked it. Uh that girl is great. I can see why she's suddenly
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  famous. I read a thing that said that she they filmed this like years ago, and
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  then she's just went back to her life. Uh as like a working doing whatever. She's
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  like streams video games on Twitch or whatever. And then and then this movie
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  came out, and then now she's like [ __ ] like a massive star because this
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  movie's done so well. >> She was great in it. >> Yeah.
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  >> But, I'm happy you You seen it cuz there's one thing I want to discuss, and
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  there will be spoilers for this one because it's been out long enough. >> Okay. All right.
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  >> The one thing I found So, the whole premise of this story is this guy's in
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  love with this girl. >> Mhm. >> He finds this wish thing, makes a wish
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  that he will wish he would love that he will love her more than anyone else in
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  the world. She will love him. And you can imagine how that goes crazy where she's now
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  obsessed with him. >> Yeah. >> The thing I found a bit weird about it was the best
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  friend was trying to get them to hook up. At the beginning movie like ask her out,
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  do this. But then later on the movie, you find out that the best friend and
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  her have been hooking up all along. >> Yeah, I think he was like
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  um well, he was sort of discouraging >> ask her out so you get rejected so
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  >> it was like just get it out of the way so so then like >> they can >> Yeah.
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  Yeah, so I think he must have un felt bad about the fact that his best
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  friend's in love with this girl and he's been banging her. >> Yeah. >> And
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  keeping it a secret. But then yeah, so then maybe he was just like yeah, just
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  just tell her and then she can say no, we're just friends and then hopefully it will come
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  >> I think a better way would have been trying to push him with the other friend
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  who was into him. >> I thought the other two the two friends
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  were together for the beginning part of the movie. I was confused about that
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  relationship actually. I thought they were a couple for some reason. I don't know why.
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  >> But no, it was just two guys two girls who two were banging in secret, one was in
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  love with the other and that and >> Yeah. Yeah, it was sort of a weird triangle.
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  >> I I thought they were sort of like it was a couple and then the other two, but no.
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  It doesn't matter. Yeah. It all It all gets clarified.
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  >> Yes, it does. But like oh no, it's just it was so good that movie and
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  >> Yeah, really good performances. Um the writing's good. The creepiness is
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  like you could tell it I'm assuming it didn't have a huge budget, but it did a
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  lot with it. Like it was just really clever. >> Well, again, it shows that with horror
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  movies you don't need huge budget. >> Like, a lot of the scariest scenes this
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  my favorite scenes that I think of is literally just a bunch of people sitting
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  at like that party scene. >> Yes. >> [ __ ] hell, man. That she is so good in that.
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  >> Like, where she just like, "Oh, kiss the person to your left." And she just gets
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  up and just drags the chair away. >> But, she just has that
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  look at her face and it's just like, "Oh, [ __ ] What is she going to do?" Yeah. >> Oh.
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  >> Yeah, really good. >> I don't know. There's one thing it made
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  me think about at the end. It's about the end of a lot of horror movies. Even
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  Evil Dead Burn. What happens with the law after that? After they find out all these people
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  have been murdered. Especially with her when she does some of the murders and
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  it's sort of like, how does she defend herself in court?
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  >> There's a lot of them like that. They again, they just kind of like,
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  "Ah, don't worry about it." >> Yeah. Yeah. But, not
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  >> Yeah, how do how do you going to explain this to the police? >> Yeah. [laughter]
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  >> Well, I guess in Obsession there's nobody Well, there's there's her. >> There's her.
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  >> At the end. How she going to explain that? Yeah.
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  >> How she going to And she's the one who did it. >> Yes, two of them.
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  >> But, it's not her. >> Right. Yeah, yeah, but how do you explain that? Yeah, good point.
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  >> But, there's there's one there's one scene I quite liked in it which I think
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  was very creepy and again, shows didn't need budget was when she was asleep and
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  he was trying to sneak out. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. She was just
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  >> kill me. Like, and she's asleep at the entity or whatever is taking over. She's
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  asleep at the moment. So, she's asking like, "Please kill me. I don't want to
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  live like this." >> Yeah. Yeah, and he said something like, um
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  "Oh, you want me to just wish that go back like you know, like I never had
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  you?" And then she's like, "You've never You never had me. Like, that's not me."
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  And she's like, "Yeah." That's [ __ ] creepy, man. >> [laughter]
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  >> Like, yeah. And it when he's on the phone and oh, do you want to talk to her
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  and you just hear her screaming in the background? >> Yeah.
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  Yeah, the way that works is a little wishy-washy, but it doesn't really
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  matter. [clears throat] >> No. It's like yeah. >> I like the I like that though where he's
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  like, "Well, you're telling you me you you're saying you want to undo your
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  wish?" He's like, "No, no, I just want to change it." "Oh, we don't really do
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  that." "Okay, then I want to undo it." "Well, we don't really do that either." >> Well,
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  >> [laughter] >> why did you offer it then? I like that
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  thing cuz it was very like customer service. >> Yep. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, it's good.
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  >> But look, yeah, definitely get out and see both of these. >> Yeah, is Obsession
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  >> I think it's Obsession's coming to streaming very soon. I've seen it for sale.
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  So, I'm guessing it's coming to streaming soon. >> It's It's been a massive hit. It's like
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  I think it's the big one of the biggest movies of the year. Which uh
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  it had a budget of $750,000. >> That's still insane. >> And uh
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  let's see, box office, how much has it made now? >> Oh, must have done well at the box
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  office. >> 430 million. It's one of the most profitable movies of all time.
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  That's great. >> Oh, wow. >> Mhm. I mean, good on them.
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  Uh I watched one other movie last night since since we had the ability to do that.
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  Uh I watched Hokum, which is a movie >> I don't know that one.
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  >> Uh it was recommended or mentioned by uh Dan, former co-host of this podcast, Dan.
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  >> Mhm. >> He described it as a cozy horror film, which I hate. I hate that description. I
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  don't know why. I don't know why. Cozy horror is just something like uh
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  >> What's cozy horror? >> Well, >> Can you explain it yet? >> I think it's like
• 20:55
  you know, it's like a it's like folk horror. It's like set in Ireland. It's
• 21:01
  kind of like I get it. It's like a
• 21:06
  cozy horror. I don't know. >> Oh, got Adam Scott in it. Yeah.
• 21:11
  Yeah, it's about a guy who's an author, you know, a bit Stephen King in that
• 21:15
  regard. He's a writer. He He lost his parents clearly. You find
• 21:19
  out the start. He's got the ashes still sitting there.
• 21:22
  And then he's working on his next book and then some stuff happens and he
• 21:27
  finds some old um stuff around the house that reminds him
• 21:30
  that his parents went on a honeymoon to Ireland to this hotel and he decides to
• 21:34
  go there and spread their ashes. And weird [ __ ] happens. >> down.
• 21:40
  In a cozy way. >> In a Yeah, some cozy weird [ __ ] happens.
• 21:44
  Yeah. Uh no, it was good. I liked it. Yeah. >> Okay. >> It was um
• 21:48
  It's weird watching something like Evil Dead Burn and then watching something
• 21:51
  like Hokum. Hokum is much less gory. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]
• 21:55
  >> Obviously, but it has some very intense moments. And my I think my brain was prepared
• 22:02
  in a way that it didn't need to be for like intense violence. >> [laughter]
• 22:07
  >> There's very little violence in this one. It's more of a
• 22:11
  creepy cozy horror. >> Okay. >> There's like a little bit of uh of stuff, but um
• 22:18
  >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I really liked it. Yeah, it's good. Uh >> Should I watch it?
• 22:24
  >> Yeah, I think so. >> Okay. >> There's a character that reminds me of
• 22:26
  you. You're going to be offended when you see it. >> Oh. >> [laughter]
• 22:30
  >> There's a particular There's a scene that I said to Jenna,
• 22:35
  "It's Luke Leave in the hospital." >> [laughter]
• 22:39
  >> All right, I will try and watch it then. >> Mhm. >> There is one movie I'm going to be
• 22:45
  watching soon >> Mhm. >> I just saw has appeared on Prime and that's The Toxic Avenger.
• 22:51
  >> Oh, is that available now? >> on Prime. I just saw that. >> The new one?
• 22:56
  >> The original one. The Troma one. >> No, but the that we've been watching
• 22:59
  since the '80s. Um >> Yes. >> Interesting with Peter Dinklage as Tyrion.
• 23:04
  >> So, I'm going to I I saw it when I got home from hospital and I went, "I'm
• 23:08
  going to sit down and watch this." I turned it on and I fell asleep in about 15 minutes.
• 23:13
  >> Okay. >> So, I need to I'll probably watch it after this cuz I'm I'm probably going to
• 23:17
  be awake. >> It's on Is it just free for streaming on there?
• 23:21
  >> Yeah, it's just on Prime. Just normal. >> There you go. I might check that out.
• 23:28
  We've got Well, see, we've got sometime today, but then there's also there's two
• 23:32
  sport things happening today that we were like, "No, we should be but
• 23:35
  watching sport things." >> Watch sports ball. >> This the the World Cup final and
• 23:41
  also the Formula 1 is today, too. So. >> I don't get soccer.
• 23:46
  >> No, but Well, I I normally, but going to a place where other people are watching
• 23:49
  it and watching it with people is fun. So. >> Especially cuz you're all hosting it at
• 23:53
  the moment, aren't you? Like you personally. >> Yes, it's going to happen in my
• 23:57
  backyard. Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. So, you probably should make an appearance.
• 24:00
  >> Yeah, I mean, there's a large crowd of people outside right now. So. Probably should.
• 24:06
  >> Go Argentina. I don't know who's in it. >> they're in it. Yeah. I think so. It's
• 24:12
  Argentina and who else? Uh >> Someone. >> Cup final. I want to say Egypt, but I
• 24:16
  think that was the match the other week I watched. World Cup final. Spain. >> Spain.
• 24:22
  >> I knew that. Yeah. So. >> I do know there are some
• 24:28
  things that they're claiming that Argentina is cheating somehow, which I don't understand.
• 24:32
  >> Oh, really? Or by having Messi on their team? >> Well, just
• 24:37
  some calls going their way and they're starting to say it's a whole conspiracy.
• 24:41
  >> it's fixed? >> Yeah, which with it being FIFA >> [laughter]
• 24:46
  >> one of the most corrupt organizations. >> Interesting.
• 24:50
  >> Yeah, if you look into it, FIFA's very corrupt. >> Really? >> Oh, yeah.
• 24:55
  Well, they're a non-profit organization that makes billions of dollars. >> Okay.
• 25:00
  >> And there's been from what I believe, so take it with a grain of salt cuz maybe
• 25:04
  something they don't [laughter] But I believe there's been
• 25:07
  periods in the past where people will bribe some of the selectors about who
• 25:10
  will get the World Cup. So, they'll be hey, if we slip you a few million
• 25:14
  dollars, will you vote for us type of thing and >> But they have to play the game.
• 25:21
  >> Oh, no, no, I mean with just a hosting side of it. >> Oh, oh, I see. >> So,
• 25:26
  we even with that even in like they're they're a non-profit organization that
• 25:30
  is one of the richest organizations in the world at the same time.
• 25:34
  >> Well, I mean, one of the most embarrassing things that I'm aware of
• 25:39
  this World Cup is that [ __ ] Trump with the red card thing. You know about that?
• 25:43
  >> Yeah. Oh, it's sort of good >> American player got a red card and then
• 25:46
  Trump called president of FIFA and said, "Oh, can we can we just not do that?"
• 25:51
  And then America got their ass kicked anyway, but
• 25:53
  >> Yeah. I'm as as quite a good thing that they did lose because if they hadn't
• 25:58
  lost, there always would have been this asterisks of >> Ah, so embarrassing.
• 26:02
  >> But that's the first time a red card has ever been overturned since like the '60s
• 26:07
  or something. >> It shouldn't have been. That's just a that's ridiculous.
• 26:10
  >> But it's just always been part of the game. Calls go against you and you just
• 26:14
  live with it and move on. >> Yeah. >> And then you look at it where FIFA were
• 26:19
  the ones that gave Trump the World Peace Award as well. So, he had the phone
• 26:24
  number to call. >> It's just embarrassing. Don't do that.
• 26:30
  >> Oh, [ __ ] hell. >> But I I do like the fact
• 26:33
  >> It makes us Well, I'm I'll just claim to be Australian, but it just makes
• 26:36
  [laughter] us seem like [ __ ] losers. Like, don't do that.
• 26:40
  >> But that's the thing I do love about it because they lost
• 26:44
  after Trump did the thing and then the I forget who the opposing team was. They
• 26:48
  did Trump's dance to the YMCA. >> Yes. I think Was that Argentina? Somebody. I forget.
• 26:53
  >> Yeah. >> Anyway.
• 26:59
  Uh so that's what I'm doing later. So I won't be able to uh
• 27:02
  to watch Toxic Avenger. But I will watch it when I can.
• 27:05
  >> Yeah, you can watch it whenever you want now. >> Um got some other movie news. Do you
• 27:11
  like Sydney Sweeney? >> Um I don't know.
• 27:17
  >> People like her a lot. >> Yes, and I think they like her because
• 27:21
  of her breasts mainly. Is that the big thing? >> say there's two big reasons people like
• 27:26
  Sydney Sweeney and >> [clears throat] >> uh yeah, that's them.
• 27:29
  Uh that's my understanding anyway. I've not seen I haven't seen her in anything.
• 27:34
  And I don't mean I don't I don't mean I've seen her naked. I mean I've not
• 27:37
  watched her in any movie. Although I do I think she appears naked in things. Uh
• 27:41
  which is I think another reason people like her. I don't know. I might be wrong
• 27:44
  about that. Anyway, the news this week which I'm assuming is exciting people is
• 27:48
  that Sydney Sweeney will star in a new Sleepy Hollow
• 27:52
  adaptation. And from what I read in this article, it is an erotic adaptation.
• 27:59
  >> So this would be the first time you see her in a movie.
• 28:03
  >> It might be because I'm a big fan. >> Fan Yeah, I'm not saying get only erotic
• 28:08
  part, the Sleepy Hollow part. >> Yeah, yeah. I don't know
• 28:13
  that I'm going to like it the same as I like Tim Burton's. I don't know who's
• 28:17
  directing this. Uh Lindsay Anderson Beer Oh, it's like a
• 28:22
  based on a novel. >> Okay. >> an adaptation. And the author will write, direct, and
• 28:29
  produce >> Ooh, that sometimes doesn't go as well. >> Mhm.
• 28:35
  Oh, she also directed Pet Sematary Bloodlines. Which is a
• 28:41
  Pet Sematary movie that Did I watch this?
• 28:48
  I think I might have watched this. I don't really remember.
• 28:53
  >> It's 2023. >> Maybe. >> I have not seen this.
• 29:00
  >> No, I've not watched this. This has got that guy from
• 29:02
  >> it's a prequel to the 2019's Pet Sematary. >> How can there be a prequel?
• 29:07
  >> Oh, it's about the guy next door. Okay. >> Yeah. All right.
• 29:11
  Uh I mean, the reviews don't look that great, but >> Paramount company's in it. >> Is he?
• 29:15
  >> Yeah. >> Huh. Okay, I mean, I should watch this movie just to see. >> Yeah.
• 29:20
  >> I do love Pet Sematary. Anyway. >> just on this link that you've given me,
• 29:24
  it's also got another thing that Sydney Sweeney and Michael Bay to team up for
• 29:28
  Outrun adaptation. >> That I'll watch. That I'll watch. As
• 29:31
  long as there's a Ferrari Testarossa in it. >> It has to be.
• 29:35
  >> Yeah. There's three reasons to watch it now. >> [laughter]
• 29:39
  >> Two of them will be riding in the Testarossa, presumably.
• 29:43
  >> If there's not a Testarossa, I would be so upset cuz that is Outrun.
• 29:47
  >> It's got to be. Although, he did do what did he change Bumblebee into a Camaro,
• 29:53
  so who knows what >> And sort of combined Bumblebee with Hot Rod as a character.
• 29:58
  >> Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, so we'll see. Uh anyway, yeah. Sydney Sweeney
• 30:04
  >> Not Sydney Sweeney. >> Sydney Sweeney. >> Sydney Sweeney. Sleepy Hollow.
• 30:09
  >> [laughter] >> You won't even try to say her name. All right.
• 30:15
  It's like ketamine. >> I'm still might be a little bit out of it. >> That's fine.
• 30:21
  >> Takes a few days. But, okay. So, >> Yeah. >> they've done So, they're going to make
• 30:28
  this. But, yeah, I'm a bit nervous about the writer being the one that does it
• 30:31
  cuz I've The one movie that comes to mind with like someone who wrote, directed, produced
• 30:35
  [snorts] is Christopher Roberts with Wing Commander.
• 30:39
  >> Okay. So, you could going to Christopher Nolan cuz he does that, too.
• 30:43
  Yeah, Chris Roberts, yeah, sure. >> Even though I love that movie, that movie's not good.
• 30:49
  >> Sure. But I mean, there's a lot of examples where the writer
• 30:52
  directs the movie. Or the good is the writer-director. You know, Quentin Tarantino. Um
• 30:57
  >> But like, an author >> author of a book. Yeah, that's fair. And
• 31:00
  Steven King directed? No, he's just been in a bunch of them. >> Yeah.
• 31:04
  >> You might be right. >> We'll wait and see. >> Yeah. Uh
• 31:11
  I don't know whether this will be good or not. Um >> Yeah.
• 31:15
  >> I just saw the headline, and I was like, "Oh, people are going to like that." I assume.
• 31:19
  >> Yeah, she's very popular. I Yeah, I'm going to try and see if she's like anything good.
• 31:25
  >> I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Hang on, what has Sydney Sweeney been in?
• 31:29
  >> Uh Euphoria, The Handmaid's, Anyone But You, The Voyeurs, Christy, The White
• 31:34
  Lotus, Tale. I think that's where she made her name. From. I think she made her name from.
• 31:40
  >> From. I think she may have got her start in The Handmaid's Handmaid's Tale.
• 31:45
  >> I've seen Sharp Objects. Who was she in that? Alice.
• 31:49
  I've seen that movie. Don't remember her being in that. But I mean I believe in her.
• 31:54
  >> sorry, I'm wrong. She's been around forever. >> Like acting in stuff? >> Yeah.
• 31:59
  >> Yeah. >> But nothing that I can >> Mm. I mean, I've seen seen some of
• 32:06
  these. I just don't remember her being in it. But that's fine. Okay. All right.
• 32:10
  Maybe that's good. Maybe she's a good actress. >> Yeah. >> Mm.
• 32:15
  >> Well, she's just You haven't seen her be the star yet. >> Maybe.
• 32:20
  I've not watched Euphoria. I know that that's a thing she was in, uh
• 32:26
  and was famous for. Anyway. >> Yeah, I don't know what that is, either.
• 32:32
  >> Uh in other weird movie news >> Mm. >> Do Do like GI Joe?
• 32:38
  >> Not really. >> [laughter] >> We had GI Joe, not the way they had GI
• 32:43
  Joe in America. I think GI Joe is a very American. >> Well, we did have it, but >> yeah.
• 32:48
  >> I don't think we ever got the cartoon. >> Uh I don't think so, either. I had I I had
• 32:54
  >> I used to get the Transformers comics. Um my nan used to send them to me from England.
• 32:58
  And uh in the back of them, they often had the little short GI Joe comics as well, cuz
• 33:03
  I guess it's all Hasbro. Um >> Yeah. >> So, I was familiar with GI Joe. And we
• 33:08
  had the action figures and stuff. >> the action figures, but yeah, I don't
• 33:10
  think we ever had the cartoons or anything. >> No, I remember the movie, actually, GI
• 33:14
  Joe movie. We had that. Um but yeah, not in the same way it was popular in America.
• 33:20
  >> in the Stone Age for Australia, where we didn't quite get everything. And even if
• 33:24
  we did get some things, we wouldn't get an entire season. It'd be bits and pieces.
• 33:29
  >> Yeah, just dribs and drabs, and yeah, exactly. It's hard to keep up. >> Yeah. >> Um
• 33:33
  Well, the GI Joe movies were a thing. They were pretty awful, from memory.
• 33:39
  I've seen two of them, and I've forgotten them. They were very forgettable.
• 33:43
  >> one we saw in America, where there's this whole conspiracy about they're
• 33:47
  going to drop these things from orbit, which are going to cause these big explosions.
• 33:50
  >> Big rods, yeah. >> So, they blow up the satellites, which will then fall to Earth.
• 33:57
  >> Yeah. Don't Don't worry about it. Yeah, no, I remember that.
• 34:03
  Uh vaguely. Was that the Rock and Bruce Willis in it? You know, Bruce Willis was
• 34:07
  in one of them. Anyway. >> Uh yeah, I don't I I That's the only part I remember, that
• 34:13
  stupid plot point. And that then I Everything else has left my mind.
• 34:17
  >> Well, the news here, which is interesting, do you Do you know Danny McBride is?
• 34:20
  >> I do like No, I don't think >> He's been in them. >> I do like East Bound and Down.
• 34:24
  That was actually >> He's directing the new GI Joe movie. >> He's directing? >> Yeah.
• 34:28
  >> Okay. >> Uh and he's written and he's directing it. And I was like, what the [ __ ] But
• 34:34
  then I found out that I guess he wrote uh The Righteous Gemstones. Did he write
• 34:40
  The Righteous Gemstones? Or is he in The Righteous Gemstones?
• 34:42
  Is not a comedy, right? The Righteous Gemstones. I've not seen it.
• 34:47
  Righteous Gemstones. Oh, no, it is a comedy drama. Oh, I'm thinking of something else.
• 34:53
  He did It is a comedy. Okay, so he's only done comedies. What the [ __ ]
• 34:56
  Except for Alien Covenant he was in. Yeah, he was in Alien for 5 minutes.
• 35:00
  >> And he was the comic relief for that. >> Exactly. So, I don't know, man. It's weird. Uh
• 35:05
  >> Although, he probably he hasn't been acting in quite some time.
• 35:10
  >> I mean, I haven't paid attention. But, uh >> Like, apart from The Righteous
• 35:15
  Gemstones, it's been sort of >> Mhm. A long time since he's been in anything.
• 35:22
  So, maybe he's made the leap. >> And they tied these into Transformers,
• 35:25
  though. Hang on a minute. A tease at the end of the most recent Transformers
• 35:28
  movie, Rise of the Beasts, seemed promising. And now it seems McBride's
• 35:31
  film will be the next one. So, they're like tying them into Transformers. [ __ ] it out.
• 35:38
  Uh That That was interesting. I stopped watching the Transformers movies, too.
• 35:44
  I quite liked them. Like, as a guilty pleasure. >> Yeah, but then it's I I actually like
• 35:50
  the um Oh, what's his name? Mark Wahl- Wahlberg once.
• 35:56
  >> Oh, sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> know why. >> Yeah, the one with with Galvatron with
• 36:01
  all nanites. >> Yeah. >> And uh I think that might be the last one I
• 36:04
  watched. I didn't watch >> Yeah, I haven't seen the dinosaurs or
• 36:07
  anything. Like, I haven't seen Rise of the Beasts or anything. >> No, I haven't.
• 36:12
  No, because they're just like >> of the most recent >> kind of
• 36:16
  So, throwaway movies. I don't have time for throwaway movies anymore.
• 36:19
  >> Yeah. But, this is sort of a very weird sentence. Like, a tease at the end of
• 36:22
  the most recent Transformers seemed promising. Though, but now McBride's making a movie
• 36:27
  and it's going to be [ __ ] it seems like the way that Cent and Treat
• 36:30
  >> Yeah, and it but it also like I said it makes it seem like this GI Joe movie is
• 36:35
  the next Transformers movie. Like yeah, so I mean maybe that's possible. I mean
• 36:42
  I guess they were in the comics together. Whatever. >> Yeah. >> I just think he's an odd
• 36:47
  choice and I don't know maybe he's fine. >> I didn't he actually you know what I've
• 36:53
  just remembered didn't he have something to do with the new Halloween?
• 36:56
  >> Danny McBride Halloween Yeah.
• 37:03
  >> It might be that he's like on camera he's different to behind the camera maybe.
• 37:08
  >> No see he didn't though. Wasn't surprised his Halloween trilogy.
• 37:13
  But the story was by John Carpenter and Debra Hill. Did he write the new Halloween
• 37:16
  >> Oh he's a writer screen story so he wrote the leave a Halloween ends
• 37:21
  Halloween he wrote he's yeah he writes a lot of >> horror movies. >> Yeah.
• 37:25
  >> And stuff. Yeah, [snorts] so maybe I mean not that somebody can't be funny
• 37:29
  and do serious stuff too. I don't know I just thought the new but now I'm like okay maybe.
• 37:34
  >> As I've mentioned before that's a very American thing to the second you're in
• 37:38
  that's what you are forever. >> Yeah, sure. Yeah. >> Like you can be funny or you can be
• 37:44
  serious it's hard and it's hard to make that crossover. >> Mhm.
• 37:48
  >> And there's been a few actors who have done it like Michael Keaton and Tom
• 37:52
  Hanks who have crossed over from that. >> Yes. >> Comedy especially Michael Keaton.
• 37:57
  >> Yeah, well I I'd say especially Tom Hanks. It's hard to I don't remember
• 38:00
  that Tom Hanks was just a goofy comedy actor in the beginning.
• 38:03
  >> Yeah, but that's who he was who he was. >> Yeah.
• 38:07
  >> I don't like remember Michael Keaton he went from being a stand-up comedian to Batman.
• 38:12
  >> Yeah, but I I knew him as Batman so I never got to experience you know the change so
• 38:19
  yeah. >> Remember he got death threats for that like and this in the day where you had
• 38:24
  to write them. >> Yeah. Yeah. The after they announced it he
• 38:28
  said that he was like, "Oh [ __ ] what have I done? Literally want to murder me."
• 38:32
  >> It's pretty now people want him back as Batman cuz he was amazing. >> Um
• 38:38
  So anyway, I think this is just GI Joe so who gives a [ __ ] but
• 38:42
  yeah, Danny McBride. There you go. >> Yep. >> Interesting. Interesting.
• 38:47
  >> Yes. We'll wait and see. >> Yeah. Um we should do some follow up real
• 38:52
  quick. We do some other movie news and stuff like that but we should make sure
• 38:54
  we do the follow up. We mentioned last week
• 38:58
  uh the Xbox layoffs and stuff and in particular id Software being
• 39:04
  effectively >> Well, we basically thought that it was like one developer left.
• 39:10
  >> Apparently that's not the case. Yeah. Uh the creative director has said that
• 39:15
  the claims basically that it's it it's bad but it's not as bad as people have
• 39:21
  said and here we go. There've been reports that we've been nerfed into the ground and
• 39:25
  gutted and we have 50 people and that's just not true. We're the size we were
• 39:29
  when we made Doom 2016 and id Tech is very much alive and well. So
• 39:36
  >> But also what is not good news that they fired a bunch of people but it sounds
• 39:40
  like it's not doom and gloom but also what are they working on at the moment?
• 39:44
  >> Uh they are well Didn't they say that they've basically
• 39:49
  going to be focused on Doom? >> Yeah, cuz they just released the last
• 39:54
  Doom DLC which is a sort of stand alone thing I think as well. >> Ages.
• 39:59
  >> Dark Ages. Yeah, the DLC that just came out >> for that game. Yeah. >> Yep.
• 40:04
  And I don't think they've announced anything else. So this is probably at
• 40:07
  the same time that they're sort of resetting, ramping up for the next game anyway.
• 40:12
  >> Yeah. So yeah, cuz I I What else does Id make, specifically? I think just
• 40:19
  >> Um >> I can't remember. But Doom would be the one that they would cuz they there was
• 40:25
  like a bunch of core franchises. And cuz the other news is that um Bethesda
• 40:30
  uh their number one priority right now is Elder Scrolls 6. >> Yeah, actually told
• 40:34
  >> [clears throat] >> I actually think they will sit down and
• 40:36
  they sit Todd How- Todd How- Todd Howard down and went, "Get your thumb out of
• 40:41
  your ass. We've given you a lot of money. We need something." Like it's been far
• 40:46
  too long with nothing. >> Yeah. So we've got uh
• 40:53
  Elder Scrolls 6 is Bethesda's top priority. >> Mhm.
• 40:56
  >> Uh Fallout 5 is being done by Obsidian, right? >> Yep.
• 41:02
  >> Uh and also the news this week is that there will be remasters of Fallout 3 and
• 41:07
  New Vegas. >> And New Vegas soon. >> Which I'm looking forward to them cuz that
• 41:12
  they should be soonish, I would think. >> Yeah, I would imagine so. Um
• 41:18
  >> But it's nice to see they've finally started to even talk about Fallout 5,
• 41:22
  which they haven't >> Yeah. Well, I mean Obsidian doing it is good news. >> Yeah.
• 41:28
  >> New Vegas is my favorite of all of them and they did that one, so
• 41:32
  >> But no, I really do think they sat them down and went like, "We've been
• 41:34
  funneling you money." Which is probably part of the problem with why they've had
• 41:37
  to reset. They've been giving so much money to Bethesda to make a game >> [laughter]
• 41:43
  >> that's 10 years later and we've got nothing. >> Yeah. I know they announced it uh
• 41:49
  >> I think it was 2016. >> It was a [ __ ] long time ago. It was the E3 that I went to.
• 41:54
  The that's how long it's been. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> It was an E3.
• 41:57
  >> And that was just stuff. Hey, we've started working on it. It wasn't uh
• 42:02
  >> Yeah, it was just a little teaser that showed you like it was a CGI rendered
• 42:06
  thing. It wasn't even gameplay or anything like that.
• 42:07
  >> Yeah, it was just, "Hey, we're working on it." And that was it. So
• 42:10
  >> the thing you hate where it's like they've announced [clears throat] a game
• 42:12
  and they haven't made any of it yet. >> Yeah. And it's far too early. >> Yeah.
• 42:18
  >> So, yeah, I think Bethesda got into a bit of trouble about
• 42:22
  I think Bethesda might be part of the reason for a lot of this.
• 42:25
  >> Yeah, right. You blame Todd. >> Just just Yeah, I'll blame Todd. Just
• 42:29
  with the amount of money that they've probably funneled into Elder Scrolls >> Mhm.
• 42:34
  >> and we've got nothing. >> I mean, it's hard to top Skyrim and
• 42:39
  especially I think I I'm sure they thought Starfield was going to be more
• 42:46
  widely loved than it was. Like it was successful, I'm sure, but it was just
• 42:51
  like it was fun. >> The problem with the Starfield is they
• 42:54
  wanted the audience to make their stories. >> Mhm.
• 42:57
  >> They didn't really put the effort into making the stories. They thought the
• 43:02
  They're waiting for the gamers to go out and mod and create all this stuff.
• 43:06
  They're all banking on that, not like they did with
• 43:11
  Oblivion, Morrowind where Skyrim where every you get caught up in the world and
• 43:17
  you wander off and you do something. There's none of that in Starfield.
• 43:21
  >> Yeah. Yeah, no, it's very feels very empty. >> Like the only time you really got
• 43:25
  missions was or well, the only time you got missions is you're on one of the core planets.
• 43:30
  >> Yeah, you go looking for them. >> And then you get that there and then you
• 43:33
  might go somewhere else and that was you land on a planet which well, it's
• 43:37
  procedurally generated, it's different every time, but there's >> Yeah, but there's no
• 43:40
  >> No, but >> Yeah, it's procedurally generated resources to collect and then that's it.
• 43:44
  >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The time between Oblivion Oblivion was
• 43:49
  last one Skyrim. So, it's been How many years between Oblivion and
• 43:54
  Skyrim? Just tell me a number. Don't go into a story.
• 43:58
  >> Just ask AI and it'll tell you a number that may or may not be correct. >> [laughter]
• 44:05
  >> Okay, here we go.
• 44:07
  Do you Don't I don't care about the law. I just want to know the difference
• 44:13
  between the games. >> That's a quote I'm going to keep with
• 44:16
  yours. I don't care about the law. >> Okay. So, So, we went from I'll start from
• 44:23
  Morrowind cuz that's when they I think became popular. Daggerfall and
• 44:26
  everything were before that. Morrowind came out in 2002. >> Mhm.
• 44:32
  >> Elder Scrolls Oblivion came out in 2006. >> Okay.
• 44:36
  >> Then we had 2011. So, we're going from 4 years to 5 years. >> Uh-huh.
• 44:43
  >> To it's now been 15 years. >> It's 15 years since Skyrim came out.
• 44:49
  >> 15 years since Skyrim originally came out. >> makes sense cuz I Yeah, I played it.
• 44:54
  [ __ ] Yeah. Okay. >> So, that's getting a bit ridiculous with
• 44:58
  the time [laughter] between games. >> Yeah, it's quite long.
• 45:01
  >> Like it went up by a year between Morrowind and Oblivion. >> Mhm.
• 45:07
  >> And now we're at 15 years with nothing to show for
• 45:10
  >> And and and what state is it in right now? Like surely it's got to be Surely
• 45:14
  you could show something at this point, right? >> Anything. Like >> What do you got? Mhm.
• 45:21
  >> I think they're trying to make it too big. >> I'm sure that they are. I'm just Yeah.
• 45:27
  Yeah, that's really interesting. I wonder what state it's in right now.
• 45:30
  Cuz he says he say like um Here we go. Update on Elder Scrolls 6.
• 45:36
  Uh Where's the [ __ ] quote?
• 45:42
  >> Where is it? >> Okay, I can tell you having visited Bethesda and sat with Todd and seen
• 45:47
  Elder Scrolls playing, it looks amazing and it's coming along well.
• 45:51
  Um and we'll make sure to announce it and reveal really reveal it at the right
• 45:55
  time. Yeah, okay, but when? >> When? [laughter] That's it. 15 years is a very long time.
• 46:02
  >> Yeah. >> What? I hope my computer just hasn't frozen.
• 46:07
  >> I was going to say you've frozen. Yeah, I can still hear you, so I'm just
• 46:11
  going to assume it's thinking about something and we're all good.
• 46:14
  >> All right. Yeah, you're just kind of staring off into the distance.
• 46:17
  >> Yeah, I can see you reading as well. I'm scared. What are you doing, computer?
• 46:24
  >> Very strange. >> Hasn't done this long before. >> [laughter]
• 46:29
  >> Hold on, something Everything else seems to be working. >> Oh, you're back.
• 46:35
  >> I'm back. Okay, good. Whew, just had a moment. >> All right. >> That was a bit scary.
• 46:41
  >> Uh also briefly, uh the BBC has released a statement about uh the Doctor Who
• 46:46
  cancellation. >> Yes. >> Um which it's just basically they've
• 46:51
  fired everybody and said someone else make this. Who? And then now people are
• 46:56
  It's been put out to competitive tender. >> Yes. And it wasn't actually
• 47:01
  BBC as actually actual BBC that were actually making it recently. >> All right.
• 47:07
  >> It was a subsidiary of BBC. >> Oh. >> So it wasn't the original BBC, and I
• 47:12
  think I've seen BBC come out and said, "We're not going to let this die. Like
• 47:16
  we've just done this as a thing, but Doctor Who will still be here." Like
• 47:20
  >> Yeah. The statement says, "The decision was not taken lightly and we know it
• 47:23
  will be disappointing for fans, which is in to push forward to invest in the
• 47:26
  long-term future of the show, which ensures that when the time does land
• 47:29
  once more, it does so in all its glory." Um
• 47:33
  >> But I do think it's time for a break for Doctor Who. I think it's been needed a
• 47:38
  break for a while. >> Yeah, it could be. I mean, it just seems like
• 47:42
  over time, like it was good, it was good, it was good, and then it's just
• 47:45
  nobody's happy with it, it seems like. >> Yeah, it's just Nobody but But anytime
• 47:50
  they announce a new doctor, the internet loses their [ __ ]
• 47:53
  >> Yeah, it's just all [ __ ] all over the place at the moment. Although this has
• 47:56
  got very good reviews. Oh, no, but this is Is this reviews for the series as a
• 48:01
  whole or for this season? I don't know.
• 48:06
  I just My My sense of it was that people were just complaining about it constantly.
• 48:11
  >> Yeah. >> Uh and which doesn't mean anything cuz that's what the internet does and, you
• 48:16
  know, >> complains and then the amount of people I'd like to take screenshots when they
• 48:20
  complain about games before they've even come out and say I'm boycotting this and I'd like
• 48:25
  go show them this screenshot like a day after the game comes out. >> Mhm. Yeah.
• 48:30
  >> Cuz you know that they're still going to People will complain but will still go
• 48:34
  and watch it, still go and play it like they always do.
• 48:38
  >> Yeah. Well, I haven't watched Doctor Who in a long time. >> Oh, neither have I.
• 48:42
  >> I'm not not that concerned. Um honestly, a re- a reboot of it might get me to
• 48:47
  watch it again because I feel so lost when I watch that stuff like that now
• 48:51
  because I can't remember all the >> years and start fresh. >> Mhm.
• 48:55
  >> Cuz remember there was a before it came back in what, 2004 or something, it'd
• 48:59
  been a long time since we had Doctor Who. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And it came back very strong.
• 49:03
  >> Yeah. >> And then it hasn't stopped since then. So, maybe give it another
• 49:08
  stop for 5, 6 years, give it a reboot, let everyone cleanse their palate and come back mhm
• 49:13
  where everyone loses their mind saying how great it is again.
• 49:15
  >> But this does mean we're not No one We're not going to find out why >> Billy Piper
• 49:19
  >> regenerated into a rose Tyler. >> Yeah, into Billy Piper. [laughter]
• 49:22
  >> We're not going No one's going to know. That's just I think it's very funny.
• 49:25
  It's like a this absurd thing that they did and then they were like, "Don't
• 49:28
  worry, we're going to explain it." And then the BBC was like, "No, you're not.
• 49:30
  [ __ ] you." >> [laughter] >> You're all fired. >> Jesus. That's great.
• 49:36
  >> We'll wait and see. >> I'm sure they'll explain it in interviews or something.
• 49:42
  >> Or a comic book or a screen rant that'll talk about
• 49:45
  >> then do the Yeah, finally we get to see the Christmas special in comic book form.
• 49:50
  >> Yep. Thanks I screen ranted. >> When we were leaving Evil Dead, uh
• 49:55
  we were talking Jen and I were talking and she said, "Oh yeah, how does the um the
• 50:01
  how does it tie into the last one?" I'm trying to avoid spoiling anything. >> Ah.
• 50:04
  >> It ties into the last >> It ties into the last one in the after credits.
• 50:08
  >> Yeah, and we were both like, "How did How?" Because I mean
• 50:14
  the old the previous one we could talk about spoilers for that cuz it's been
• 50:17
  out for [ __ ] ages. Is um >> I >> I thought all the deadites merged into
• 50:21
  that giant [ __ ] monster thing at the end. But maybe I'm misremembering. It's
• 50:26
  possible. Yeah. Uh it's been ages since I watched it.
• 50:29
  Uh so I was confused how it tied in and that we were talking about and I said,
• 50:32
  "Oh, you know what? Don't worry. There'll be a Screen Rant article that
• 50:35
  explains all of that." >> [laughter]
• 50:40
  >> There always [ __ ] is. >> For Screen Rant, they talk an awfully lot about comics.
• 50:46
  >> [laughter] >> Have you read the last arc, Luke?
• 50:51
  >> No, I have not. I'm waiting for the day we'll get the sequel to that movie. And
• 50:55
  it will be a sequel. >> Yeah. Um what have we got? Okay, so just
• 51:01
  briefly, the live-action Moana remake uh is bombing hard.
• 51:08
  >> Is that out? >> Yes, mostly negative reviews, sitting at
• 51:12
  33% on Rotten Tomatoes, and it has Where did they There was a budget listed for
• 51:18
  this. Oh, it's projected to lose $100 million. >> Ouch.
• 51:24
  >> Yes, it grossed 43 million and it uh domestic and 52 million
• 51:30
  internationally for a global debut of 95 million and it cost at least 250 million.
• 51:37
  >> Maybe they'll finally learn that they can just stop making live-action of everything.
• 51:43
  >> Yeah, I mean Moana is very good. I just don't need It's like
• 51:48
  >> Well, I think it was sort of a niche sort of thing when they were going back
• 51:51
  and re- redoing all of their classics like >> Yeah.
• 51:56
  >> uh Beauty and the Beast and all that like let's bring >> just came out.
• 52:00
  >> Yeah, it's brand new. You've got the same actors. You've got the Rock doing
• 52:04
  his same character. >> Yes. in a wig >> and a muscle suit
• 52:10
  >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Is it a muscle suit? >> I don't know. He's not that big anymore,
• 52:14
  is he? >> Exactly. >> I don't know, man. >> what he'll look like with his shirt off now.
• 52:21
  >> Let's just take a moment to imagine that. >> Mhm. >> Um
• 52:27
  Yeah, I'm sure he's got people on hand to make sure he sizes down in a way that
• 52:32
  makes him look less like a weird turtle. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Uh
• 52:38
  Uh yeah, anyway, so I don't care about this. I was really disappointed in the
• 52:41
  Lilo and Stitch live action remake, but they're making a sequel to that.
• 52:46
  >> Okay, so it must have done well. >> Yeah, apparently it did do really well.
• 52:49
  It did better than any of the others apparently, which >> Okay.
• 52:53
  >> I was so confused by it. Cuz the the animated one is really good. >> Mhm. >> And then
• 52:59
  >> I haven't seen any of the live action. >> I thought maybe it's just that I like
• 53:03
  the animated one so much that they then they changed things that I was like, I
• 53:06
  don't understand why they changed that. And then maybe [clears throat]
• 53:09
  I don't know. Maybe if you didn't think like that, maybe it was better,
• 53:13
  but I don't know. Didn't seem very good to me. >> Yeah, but I don't I think the reason why
• 53:17
  Moana may not have done good is the audience that probably would have loved this
• 53:23
  are probably still at age that they love the the movie, the original movie, and
• 53:27
  they haven't grown out of that. They're still watching Moana on repeat type of thing.
• 53:31
  >> Yeah. And like Like what is the point of a live action version of a movie? Like
• 53:38
  >> Well, it's just the fact that someone decided they need to do a live action of
• 53:41
  all their cartoons. >> Uh >> don't understand why we need those.
• 53:46
  Like like you said, some of the classic ones, fine. It's been a long time.
• 53:49
  They've been refreshed. Like >> Yeah. >> you know, there's stuff in them that's
• 53:53
  different and you can change it and it's fine. But like yeah.
• 53:57
  We don't need all of them. All the recent ones, like I said, they're
• 53:59
  recent. They're already like modern, like with modern
• 54:03
  sensibilities and like like the earlier ones have old styles.
• 54:09
  >> Yeah. And they're probably they're not being watched anymore and
• 54:13
  some of the things are a bit ethically a bit weird.
• 54:17
  >> Moana doesn't need a refresh. Moana is fresh. Like [laughter]
• 54:21
  it's good. Like in 20 years, maybe. You know. >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:27
  >> Uh [ __ ] it, whatever. >> Well, they learned they lost a lot of money.
• 54:32
  >> Just stop it. >> Well, have they learned? >> Don't
• 54:36
  >> Still don't understand how they lost money on The Mandalorian. >> Um
• 54:41
  who was Oh, Spaceballs 2. Uh the preview thing was making fun of um
• 54:48
  Mandalorian Grogu. Said something about uh when television shows are releasing
• 54:54
  episodes strung together as theatrical movies and the world has lost like hope
• 55:01
  in franchises. >> Honestly, as I said, it was just three
• 55:05
  episodes put together. And if you had have just had this as a new season of
• 55:09
  Mandalorian, it would have been fine. But no, they made it a movie and somehow
• 55:14
  that movie cost more than it took to make three episodes. >> Yeah.
• 55:18
  No, I whatever. I'm not going to watch it. >> I'm going to watch Spaceballs though.
• 55:22
  >> I'm going to watch Spaceballs for sure. Um George Lucas this week is uh copping
• 55:29
  some flak because he said uh in an interview and I actually clicked on an ad. [ __ ]
• 55:34
  hate ads. Um he thinks
• 55:38
  that AI and arguing against AI is like arguing against the introduction of cars
• 55:45
  and vehicles. And he says, "It's very much like sitting here and saying, well, I believe
• 55:49
  the horse and buggy is really where it's at. These cars, they break down, they
• 55:53
  need gas, there's all kinds of problem with them, and pretty soon they'll be
• 55:55
  making them into tanks, and they'll be killing people. It's terrible. And
• 55:59
  there's nothing you can do about it." George Lucas says.
• 56:02
  He calls AI progress and the future. Uh
• 56:07
  and he's copped a lot of flak for it. Uh but he's probably right.
• 56:12
  >> No, he's probably right. >> [laughter] >> So. Like it's not going anywhere.
• 56:17
  >> I get people don't like it, but he's probably right. >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:21
  >> No, I I I get it. >> about AI like quite a bit, and we're not
• 56:25
  we understand it's there. We're not huge fans of it, but we do see there's
• 56:29
  benefits, but we're also >> I don't want to see the other side. I do
• 56:32
  specific things with it, and it's very useful for for for but for me in
• 56:38
  like it enables me to do things that I wouldn't have been able to do otherwise.
• 56:41
  Like I can very quickly, you know, do things that would have taken me a long time to
• 56:46
  do. And then if I can get things done that I wouldn't have been able to. >> Mhm.
• 56:51
  >> Cuz I'm busy. >> But yeah, it is it is sort of a very
• 56:54
  scary thing, and I still think it is going to destroy mankind.
• 56:57
  But it makes life easier at the >> Yeah, but in the meantime, it yeah, helps me um
• 57:03
  make little prototypes of things that I want to make, and yeah. >> Yeah.
• 57:09
  I do things completely different these days. >> Use it to make a [ __ ] web app, and
• 57:12
  don't And if you don't understand web apps. >> [laughter]
• 57:16
  >> No. Especially if you want to monetize it. >> Yeah. Just yeah.
• 57:22
  Look at how many times that goes sideways for people. Just make sure
• 57:25
  you're checking everything it does. That's my my rule is that if I use it to
• 57:31
  to work on something, I have to check everything. >> Mhm. >> Because I don't trust it.
• 57:37
  >> Uh Cuz it will do something weird and >> Yeah, and then you go, "Why'd you do
• 57:42
  that?" And it goes, "You're right. That was stupid. I don't know." And it's like, "Well,
• 57:46
  [ __ ] hell, man." Like, it's not to be trusted. >> No.
• 57:51
  No. It's they useful as cuz I use Copilot a lot. And the way I look at it
• 57:56
  is it's a copilot. It's there to assist me, not to do it for me.
• 58:01
  >> Right. No, you know what? I I Claude code I use and it is
• 58:06
  [ __ ] incredible at finding bugs. If you have a piece of software you're
• 58:10
  working on and you're like, "I wonder if there's any bugs." Just tell Claude code
• 58:15
  "Scan this code base. Let me know about any bugs." It will find [ __ ] you would
• 58:19
  never have found. And And oftentimes it's little things uh that you can just
• 58:25
  then go in and fix. Like, you don't even have to have it fix them. Just ask it to
• 58:29
  find bugs in your software, it will find stuff. >> Is that also because it's good at
• 58:33
  creating them, so it knows where to look to begin with? Like, I know last time I
• 58:37
  did this, I put a bug there, so I'll have a look there.
• 58:40
  >> But the thing is like as a human, right? You If you If I was to sit down with the
• 58:44
  all the code and just try and read through it and go, "Okay, does this do
• 58:47
  what it's supposed to do?" kind of thing. It's just It's just hard to like
• 58:50
  hold that in your head and to go through all that kind of stuff. Not for this
• 58:53
  thing. This thing just steps through everything and it goes, "Is this doing
• 58:56
  what it's supposed to do? Is this doing what it's supposed to do? What what
• 58:58
  happens if I do this?" And then And then like send this into the function or whatever.
• 59:02
  >> is yeah, you had an extra space somewhere that you've missed.
• 59:06
  >> Yeah, I listened to a podcast the other day where they said that there was a a
• 59:09
  bug that they'd not been able to reproduce and then it turned out it was
• 59:12
  just simply like they had a like a greater than instead of a greater than
• 59:15
  or equal to in in in a piece of code somewhere. And they've looked They said,
• 59:19
  "I've looked at this over the years hundreds of times trying
• 59:23
  to figure out what this bug is and my brain just didn't see it because it's
• 59:26
  just so hard to like hold all the the flow in your head. >> Yeah.
• 59:30
  >> And then Carl was just like, "Oh, you [ __ ] that up, dude." And it's like, "Oh, shit."
• 59:36
  Anyway, great for that. Uh I think for creative stuff
• 59:39
  there's a lot of questions about whether it's there's any value in that because I do agree
• 59:46
  half of being Well, most of the point of being creative is that you created it.
• 59:51
  And so, if you didn't create it uh it's What's What's the point of it, really?
• 59:55
  >> Well, that's what. There's actually a court case going through at the moment
• 59:58
  for I forget what it was called, tongue tongue sushi or something. >> [laughter]
• 1:00:03
  >> I don't know what that is. >> So, it's AI rot. So, it is this
• 1:00:09
  stick thing that has a baseball bat that someone's created
• 1:00:14
  that they've been putting on TikTok and stuff for a while.
• 1:00:17
  They put it in the Fortnite put it in cuz it's a new brain rot stream you
• 1:00:21
  think keep kids happy. And they had a lawsuit going over about it because the
• 1:00:25
  person who created it is from Indonesia, I think, and created it using AI. And
• 1:00:29
  they're going, "No, we own the rights to that." >> Mhm.
• 1:00:32
  >> And so, now it's going to court of Do they own the rights or do they not? And >> Mhm.
• 1:00:37
  >> So, I know most of the court cases have gone through so far up especially with
• 1:00:41
  the art has No, you don't own it. >> Yeah. >> it's getting to the point of, "Well,
• 1:00:47
  no, I put It wasn't I put in one line, created this, and I've done it. I went
• 1:00:52
  through and I created this and I did the personality and how it looks and put a
• 1:00:56
  lot of time and effort into it. So, now there's an argument for
• 1:01:02
  that was just a tool I used to create. So, it's getting scary, but it's also
• 1:01:08
  like who does own it cuz the tools mostly
• 1:01:11
  steal everything, steal learn from other artists, and yeah, from that.
• 1:01:17
  >> Cuz I I I We've talked about this before, but the thing I struggle with is
• 1:01:20
  it yes, they they they the the AI looks
• 1:01:23
  at art and absorbs it and then creates like its own
• 1:01:29
  mashup of the things it seen, but that's what people do. >> That's what people do.
• 1:01:33
  >> and but but I do agree like when a person does it, I think it's more valuable >> Yes.
• 1:01:39
  >> to me as a creative work. I think I don't I I think there's nothing
• 1:01:43
  particularly wrong with using AI to do that stuff, but I just don't think it's as
• 1:01:49
  impressive or valuable when an AI does it. >> Kind of thing.
• 1:01:52
  >> Like I'll use it for the thumbnails and stuff because I think like the
• 1:01:55
  alternative is that I do a bad Photoshop and it just won't be as funny. >> no thumbnail.
• 1:02:00
  >> Yeah, cuz the idea is mine and my execution of it is not going to be as
• 1:02:04
  funny. I think that the AI can make my idea look like more like what I want in a way
• 1:02:10
  that I can't. And I can't pay somebody to do it. I don't have money for that.
• 1:02:13
  >> Look, if [laughter] we could afford to pay someone, we would. Maybe one day.
• 1:02:18
  >> Maybe one day. Yeah. >> I can't at the moment. I need to pay for
• 1:02:21
  StreamYard again. That's already come up again. >> There's a summer sale on right now.
• 1:02:26
  >> Oh, good. >> got an email, so I'll send I'll forward you the email. >> Thank you.
• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:32
  believe me, when we're paying for this, it's hundreds of dollars, people.
• 1:02:36
  >> Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean and again, we're not begging. If
• 1:02:41
  you like the show, go to patreon.com/multinutgasm. >> We're going to do it anyway.
• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:53
  afterparty, which is where we're going right now. Uh five bucks a month, you
• 1:02:57
  can have that. Uh every week we talk for longer. >> Yes.
• 1:03:02
  And sometimes it might be 15 minutes, sometimes it might be longer than the main show.
• 1:03:06
  >> Yeah, we'll see. Uh we've got some Geek of the Week candidates this week, but I think
• 1:03:10
  everybody knows what's going to happen, but you'll I guess you'll have to listen
• 1:03:13
  to be sure. Sometimes Luke surprises me. >> Yeah, well, they only just missed out of
• 1:03:18
  being kick of the week last week. >> Yes. >> came out after we were recording.
• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:29
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• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:53
  We've been doing this for a [ __ ] 15 years or something now. >> years
• 1:03:57
  >> Yeah. Uh but obviously, we make it for you guys, too, and we want to make
• 1:04:00
  everybody happy. >> Actually, I think I remember when we I think when we first around the
• 1:04:05
  time we started making this, we were talking about Skyrim, and we spoke about
• 1:04:09
  it for weeks on end. >> We were talking about how we all married the same woman in Skyrim.
• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:19
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