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Can a parasite cleanse help your Hashimoto's symptoms ⎸ Ep. 219 · Health with Hashimoto’s - Thyroid or Immune Education for Autoimmune Thyroid Disease

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When you're first diagnosed with Hashimoto's, you look for like the first thing
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you're going to do, right? And we've talked about that a lot on the last several episodes.
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And I have always suggested pick something that's simple and sustainable.
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Well, my guest today, I heard her talking on a different interview,
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and she mentioned that she started with a parasite cleanse, which really confused
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me because I have always heard that parasite cleanses are really complicated. They're long.
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They're kind of grueling. You have to do them in a really specific order.
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And before you even start, you have to make sure that you have your detox pathways open.
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Now, just a note, detox pathways open primarily means are you pooping at least
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once a day and are you sweating? She'll go into that in the interview.
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But I was really interested in what she had to say. I learned a lot in this
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interview, and I am so excited to start my first Parify cleanse kit.
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And I know that sounds weird, like, Esther, you're excited to start this? I am.
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I learned so much in this interview, and I can't wait to get started.
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When I did this interview, I was also in contact with her company and I am now an affiliate.
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So if you go down to the link in the show notes, you will see a coupon code
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link and you can get the same kit that I'm getting. You can get more stuff on
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her site all at a discount.
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I am so excited for you to listen to this interview today with The Worm Queen.
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Maybe you got a prescription and a follow-up appointment for six weeks later,
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or maybe you got told that your
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numbers are fine for now and we're just going to keep an eye on things.
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Either way, your provider probably did not tell you that Hashimoto's is two things and not one.
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It's a thyroid that can't keep up because it's also an immune system that's attacking the thyroid.
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Medication can help handle the first, but the second one is all yours to work
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on. You are the CEO of your own health.
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You can start working on that immune system side before your labs say that you have to.
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Hi, I'm Esther Yunkin. I am a registered nurse. I've been a nurse for 25 years,
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and I am the host of the Health with Hashimoto's podcast.
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I am the nurse who helps you sort your Hashimoto's into thyroid or immune. Let's sort.
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All right, Kim Rogers, the Worm Queen, thank you so much for joining us on the
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Health with Hashimoto's podcast.
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Worms are, and parasites, it's a topic like a train wreck. Like you don't want
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to see it. You don't want to know that there's destruction and horribleness
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going on, but at the same time, you can't look away.
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So tell us about parasites. And then also, I know that is.
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Deeply entwined with your story, you have talked about being chronically healing.
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And I love that you're not chronically sick, you're chronically healing and
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parasites. Tell us about your story.
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Well, thanks for having me. I'm really excited about being here and being able
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to educate your listeners.
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And, you know, just like on my accounts, it is a train wreck.
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It's hard to look away. Please don't look away. It's fun and exciting.
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And even though it's a little gross at times, it's going to show you that what
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I'm saying is not just some random worm queen on the Internet saying these words.
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Literally, this is an issue that for some reason Western medicine has strayed
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away from for many, many years.
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And I do come from Western medicine. I'm a Western medicine refugee.
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I hold two health care degrees. I was valedictorian over both of those degrees.
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I ran 25 health care colleges. I've written healthcare curriculum for those
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colleges. I've also written medical books for large publishing companies like
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Cengage, Pearson, and McGraw-Hill.
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I worked in the field since 2004 in the emergency room. I'm a licensed,
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well, I'm not licensed anymore.
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After I went viral in 21, I let my license go.
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So then I could talk about this and I wasn't put in a box and afraid I would lose my license.
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So I was a licensed medical specialist and my specialties were neurology and endocrinology.
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So I worked with a lot of thyroid patients, a lot of patients that had MS.
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I worked with a lot of patients that have diabetes.
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And I've been able to really educate myself as well as others on the best way
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that we can cleanse our bodies.
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And that's kind of what led me into creating the Perify Kit and starting my
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own business, Rogers Hood, in order for me to talk about a problem and have
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a solution that I can stand behind.
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And I created it. I look at it all. I totally understand herbs now,
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but I come from a world where,
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you know, I allowed environmental toxins to take over my body and I wasn't my
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own patient advocate and I didn't have sovereignty over my own health, which is
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a really big thing for me because if I had known what I know now, I,
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might not have needed a hysterectomy at 29 years old and 13 surgeries because
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I had endometriosis and adomiosis.
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So when you look at it in a bigger picture, they didn't know and I didn't know.
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And now we know. And so now as a human, I need to make sure I continue to educate
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everyone else so that they can see if this is their problem before making a
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life-altering surgery, right?
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Or just decision because like my estrogen is always going to be off.
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I don't have ovaries to create that. And so I know that with my hypothyroid,
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because I have a hypothyroidism, I used to have to take a large amount of Synthroid.
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And now because I cleanse, I don't have to take as much and it helps balance my body out.
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And so little things like parasites can actually wreak so much havoc in your
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body that other organs read wrong when really there's nothing wrong with those organs,
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but they're reading wrong because they can't work at their optimal level.
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And that's why I'm here to help have people understand the way Parify Parasite
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Cleanse can help you and also other environmental toxins like mold and Lyme.
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And before we get into anything else, let's talk about the elephant in the room.
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At the end of every podcast, I have to have the disclaimer.
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At the end of every blog post or at the beginning, I always have the disclaimer,
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which is like required by the FDA or FTC or something. And it's,
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please discuss any questions or concerns with your healthcare professional.
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I'm not your doctor. Right.
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But most doctors don't know about parasites. So if somebody is listening to
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this podcast and they're like, oh, well, I guess I better talk to my doctor
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about this. Their doctor is going to be like, well, I don't know anything.
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So I'm just going to say no.
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Like, that's the default. If I don't know, I'm just going to tell you.
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They can't go outside of their box. Right.
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So how do we manage this? And you stay in your scope of practice.
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Yeah. You have to research. You have to be your own advocate and have sovereignty
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of, I'm going to go and look. So I've created hundreds of thousands of pages
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worth of information you can download for free.
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I have multiple fast track guides and lymph and parasites and mold ebooks that
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you can download on your own. We're not medical practitioners advising you. We're not yours.
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And so it's really important for you to be armed with that information,
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for you to go in and say, this is what I think it could be. And if they come
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back to you and say, no, there are millions of other doctors that can help you.
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And in fact, in my link tree, I provide other practitioners that will believe
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you, will research with you, will look into it, and will give you education.
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Because that's what this is about, right?
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It's not about you going to someone and having them in five minutes,
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this is what's wrong. This is what your levels say, take this medication and
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now you're going to have other issues. And that's what happened to me.
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I was on so many medications.
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I was having Parkinson's like side effects from my Klonopin after 22 years instead
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of the doctor saying, let's get you a baseline before I give you Parkinson's
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medication and have you run all these Parkinson's tests.
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Let's see if it could be a side effect from a medication you're on.
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Instead, I'm 40 something years old and my doctor's about to diagnose me with
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Parkinson's, which again, coming from neurology, that's very scary.
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And I'm going to stay in that cycle. I'm going to stay in that loop.
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And so I decided to get off of all of my medications so that I could see what my own baseline was.
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And that's when I started to discover that I had undiagnosed Lyme that I just
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found out about in 2023 since I was 12.
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Oh, wow. Yeah, I got bit by a tick when I was 12. I remember I had 10 ticks
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in my head, got bit, pulled them out.
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My sister was going to band camp and I was dropping her off with my mom.
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I wasn't even going to band camp and she never got bit by a tick.
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And when I left dropping her off, I had 10 in my head that they had to pull out.
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So in reality we didn't know my behavior switched immediately i started to become a bad child,
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and instead of going well could that have been it i mean 30 years ago they didn't
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even know really what all of this was i'd been tested for ms a few times throughout
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my life i had two spinal taps being tested,
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lyme and ms are cousins they're spheroketes that burrow into your nervous system
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and burrow into your brain and your tissue.
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And then my mom had mold in her body, got passed to me. I was brought home into mold.
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Our water was contaminated with parasites where we were living.
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There were so many things that I'm a typical American. I'm a typical Western
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medicine country person.
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And so there are so many things that I never thought to look into because I
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didn't know. And how did I not know when I'm very smart?
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And how was it that I didn't even look into this and I was valedictorian over
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two of my healthcare degrees.
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How did I not know? Well, because it's not something we're taught.
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We're a first world country. This can't affect us. If it does, you're gonna know.
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Like these symptoms, these are the symptoms.
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Right, so what are the symptoms? Tell us what the symptoms are. Grinding your teeth.
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So your dentist should be very aware that grinding your teeth,
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I'd gone through multiple crowns On one of my back teeth, I had four crowns
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now I've had because I grinded so hard.
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Again, not like grinding your teeth because you don't have magnesium and calcium
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that's absorbing into your body. It's absorbing into a physical worm.
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And they can hold up to 90% of our nutrients.
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Unless they know, that's not something they're going to go and look at.
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IBS, I always thought my bloated belly after I would eat and drink water was
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because I had endometriosis. We call it the endo belly.
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No, it's because I had a parasite.
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And so my belly would blow up. I got constipated and didn't poop for 30 days. That's what alerted me.
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And my doctors just said, take some psyllium husk. That was it.
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And so, of course, I realized that constipation, inflammation,
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because it keeps them from leaving your body, is a side effect.
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Grinding your teeth, like I said, because also at night they're nocturnal creatures,
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so they're up all night long. So I had insomnia since I was 12.
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I actually got my degrees at nighttime. I would work during the day.
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And then at night I was up all night and instead of watching TV, I would go to college.
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So insomnia, eating after 7 p.m., again, they're nocturnal creatures,
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craving sugar, craving salt, having intrusive thoughts.
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That's a big one that people don't realize.
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One of my friends was bit by a tick at the end of June and she ended up going
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into the hospital in the middle of July from intrusive thoughts.
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And she had never thought one negative thing about herself. She got bit by that
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tick and it plugs right into your nervous system.
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Reading you bad code, because that's all we are, we're just code,
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right? We're frequency, we're love and light, and we're a code.
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And so it can trigger inside of your nervous system.
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I was on a lot of antidepressants. I've been on a lot of anti-anxiety meds.
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And to date right now, I'm on only estrogen and only Synthroid. That's it.
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So how do you tell, because a lot of those symptoms can be caused by anything.
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And most of the people listening have Hashimoto's, so they've got hypothyroid.
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How do you tell, like, is this my thyroid or is this parasite?
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I think when you start to cleanse, if you start to feel better and things start
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to calm down, that you really know what your overgrowth issue is.
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And that's what this is about. This is an overgrowth of something alive,
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a live frequency in our bodies like candida, right? Candida is an overgrowth
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of yeast and we have yeast in our bodies.
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But once it starts to overgrow, it turns into a parasite.
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That's the same with anything that you have that's overgrowing in your body.
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So the purpose behind it is to mitigate the overgrowth, to stop the symptoms.
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And so when you do this three to when you do the Parafi kit three to four times
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a year, you'll actually start to see that overgrowth go away.
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And then you'll acknowledge it when it starts to come back because you got a
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break from a cycle you think is normal.
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You think it's normal to crave sugar and salt. It is not.
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It's not normal for you to have intrusive thoughts that are so anxious-ridden
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that it causes you not to be able to perform as a human being. That's not normal.
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So when you're able to go in and bring in an herb like wormwood or Oregon grapefruit
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or cilantro, cilantro is a heavy metal detox herb.
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A lot of people know what that is. I just happen to know how to pull the medicine
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out of the herbs in order for us to take them in a tincture form.
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So when you start to feel better and you're taking an antiparasitic or you're
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taking an anti-candida herb or medication and you start to feel better, that's a root cause.
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It might not be your only root cause. For me, it was parasites,
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mold, and Lyme, but I had to start somewhere.
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And the parasite cleanses allowed me to understand I was living in mold,
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that I have active mold in my
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body, and that mold colonizes in your body just like it does on the wall.
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And so in order for me to fully understand that, I had to know what all the symptoms were.
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And once I realized that I'm taking something that helps mitigate those,
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my body started to react differently and my mental health started to change.
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And then my thyroid started to calm down and I was able to feel a lot better.
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And then I'm like, OK, I'm addicted to the way I feel. I want to keep feeling like this.
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Right. Feeling healthy. It's amazing. Yes. Yes.
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And you said something that, I don't remember when it was, but you said you
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wanted to start with something simple. So you started with a parasite cleanse.
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Now, I have heard that parasite cleanses are, they're really complicated.
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You have to do things with different steps.
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It takes a really long time. This could be like a two or three month thing.
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That doesn't sound simple. So tell me what you mean by simple.
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Parify. It's so simple. It's three tinctures three times a day for 30 days and you bind at night.
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And you just add them to water, tea, or juice, or you can just take them straight.
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I'm going to show you how easy this is.
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I've done my dose this morning. It's now noon.
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I'm done. That's amazing. Just squirt it in your mouth. What does it taste like? Herbs and alcohol.
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We soak all of our herbs in like Everclear and then we break it down.
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So when you're making a tincture, you can do what they call a double extraction.
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I figured out which herbs can have the medicine pulled from alcohol.
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And then I figured out what herbs can the medicine can be pulled from water like a tea.
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And then you merge those two together and that brings your alcohol down just
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enough that it actually kills anything that can live inside of it so that it's
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antibacterial and antiviral.
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But then also you come in with the water one, now you're merging the medicine
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together into one tincture and then you get the medicine directly.
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Tinctures are the best because they absorb immediately into your bloodstream.
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They don't have to fight anything into your stomach and these things live in
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our blood, our tissue, and our muscle.
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And I do believe 95% of us have parasites in our bodies and 100% if you have
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a pet because pets are notorious for giving us parasites.
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A lot of people like myself have the same worm or had the same worm as my dog.
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We also share the same microbiome as everyone in the house and that includes your animal.
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They're licking on you, they're cuddling with you. Don't get rid of them,
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just deworm them and deworm yourself.
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We've just lost this art of understanding about parasites. That's all this is.
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It's not a fear-mongering.
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It's we have lost our way. So you said you take the tincture three times a day.
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Does it have to be with meals, without meals? Does it matter?
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I mean, I made it even easier. It doesn't matter. Just get the herbs in your body.
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If you take it prior to eating, that's the best.
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Okay. Just like, is it the best to do it during a full moon?
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Yeah, I mean, it's really good. to do it during the full moon.
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We're in a heightened sense because our serotonin is higher.
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So they're actually getting...
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Oh, it's so gross. Sometimes I have to stop and think because it's so gross
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what happens in our bodies, right?
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So our serotonin is higher and they start to dislodge themselves during the
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full moon. So you'll get more, you'll kill more of them when you do it during the full moon.
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But you should just do it. Like you should just take the kit three times a day.
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You can take it before and that's good too. but like if you forget,
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like I haven't eaten and I won't eat now, but I took it because I'm like,
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oh, I gotta get these herbs in me today.
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So that's really important. And then at nighttime you bind because binders are
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a negatively charged herb that acts like a magnet that's positively
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charging the toxins out and moving them out so things don't reabsorb back into your body.
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And so those things though, you have to be careful with charcoal,
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which is what we use When you're taking a thyroid medication,
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you have to make sure you're doing anything two hours after.
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So you take your medications, you take two hours later, you'll take a binder,
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then you wait two more hours and you can take medications or supplements after.
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It's the two-hour rule with binders.
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So if you take the binder at bedtime, you take a thyroid medication in the morning,
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you'll be fine. Yep. That's why I had to do it at night.
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That's the only reason is because people don't take as much medication at night
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as they do during the day.
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So it's so easy, guys. And then what about thyroid medication and the tincture?
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Is there a two-hour rule? Okay, so you can take your thyroid medication and
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then wait your 30 minutes before breakfast.
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You could take your tincture with breakfast. And I actually include that in
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the instructions because I myself take a thyroid medication.
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I take Synthroid brand name only ever.
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I never take generic thyroid medication. I learned some really cool tricks in
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the field about not taking generics.
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And so I have it on the card because I also have to follow the same thyroid rule. Right.
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Now, when you're doing the 30-day, well, let me back up. Just 30 days?
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Can you do it longer? Should you do it longer?
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You can. What's the rule there? Okay. I did 30 days because going back to that
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whole, people are afraid to parasite cleanse. We're very gentle.
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It's not just parasites. It's candida, heavy metals, inflammation.
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I added in different herbs to help curve your appetite because when you parasite
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cleanse, that makes you hungry because they don't want to die.
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So I added an ustian organ grape
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root, which helps with inflammation and balancing your sugar as well.
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So I learned a lot from me going viral in 2021.
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And you can do it longer than 30 days. It's just a lot of people beyond that
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30 days feel overwhelmed.
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They hear 90 days and they just don't wanna do it.
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I give you enough product to do 45 days, if not a little longer, but you can do 30 days.
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Then you take a break and in between your every three months,
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you can do a five to seven day stint of a cleanse with the Perify.
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You can do that for five to seven days over the full moon in between your every
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three months, if you want.
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The lymph kit which is our lymphatic
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drainage kit it also dual as a line because the herbs that i used
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that particular kit can be taken every day and it can be taken when you do the parify kit
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and i created the lymph kit to help what like lion's mane helps with the brain
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cognitive skills it also has been shown science has shown it to help rewire missing and and.
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Misfiring neurons and that's a bad habit.
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That's what a bad habit is, is neurons that are misfiring. And so lion's mane
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will actually go in and help rewire that.
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And then turkey tail helps with your immune system.
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It's also been shown to break down tumors and scar tissue, but it acts really
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strong getting your immune system back online.
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And so those two mushrooms together are in the lymph kit and that can be taken
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while you're doing the Parify kit. So all of our products at Rogers Hood can be taken together.
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And they're all designed for us chronically healing people.
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Rogers Hood manufactures their own products in a 14,000 square foot manufacturing
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facility that we built and custom fit ourselves because I didn't want this in
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the hands of anyone but me.
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I wanted full control over everything I did and everything I talked about because of my virality.
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I had companies that would not give me information about what was in their products.
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And that wasn't acceptable to me. And so that's what made me start my own business.
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Well, I'm thankful that there are people like you. I know you're not the only
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one, but there are so many people who just, they'll go on Amazon and they'll get whatever cheapest.
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But I appreciate people who really care about the quality and the manufacturing
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and looking at the raw ingredients because it all comes out in the end.
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It does. You're trying to heal your body.
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So somebody is like listening and they're like, okay, I want to do this.
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If they want to make it simple, they can do exactly what you said.
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Tincture three times a day, binder at night.
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If they want to add extra layers, I have talked about things like red light
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or castor oil. I mean, I've talked about coffee enemas. Yeah,
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let's talk about it. And I've talked about the lymph. What's most helpful?
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Red Light and castor oil were how I got my start, especially with thyroid issues.
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Beautifully Balanced Wellness is a castor oil company I really love.
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She's organic and cold pressed and all of her stuff is in glass.
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And she also has a thyroid castor oil pack. It's organic.
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Material as well. And so she is amazing. Her name is Tabitha.
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She has a great product. But what I recommend is doing castor oil with red light and then the pack.
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So if I don't have time to put the pack on and run around with a pack,
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a pack meaning the cloth that goes around your neck or your belly,
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it also helps with constipation too, by the way.
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So what I'm saying happens a lot when you do parasite cleansing,
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you can get really constipated.
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Add castor oil to your abdomen, shine red light on it. The red light is the
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driver and will push the castor oil deeper. It will work a lot better.
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It'll warm it up and then put the pack on it.
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So for around, I like beautifully balanced for my castor oil and then the loom
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box for my red light. It's a medical grade red light.
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And so it'll push the castor oil deeper, warm it up and then you put the pack on it to keep it warm.
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And so you can do that on your neck and you can also do that on your abdomen.
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I have found red light is my everything. I sit in front of a red light when I cold plunge.
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I have an infrared red light sauna, but then I put the red light in front of the glass of the sauna.
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I will go on my vibration plate or my rebounder with red light because my mitochondria
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constantly needs charging.
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And so when you're chronically ill, you have to keep charging your mitochondria.
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That's what's depleting you and making you so tired.
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And so because I sit a lot and I'm not outside in the actual sunlight,
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I utilize the red light in that sense as well. And it's changed my skin. I have no filter on.
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I literally have changed the way that I look. I'm aging backwards because I
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use a lot of red light on myself and other areas of my body when I'm in pain.
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And so it really is something that I recommend bringing in.
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I also talk a lot about, because I know that everyone's going to be like,
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holy cow, she's got a lot of info.
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But I have my own podcast and I do talk all about the modalities on my own podcast.
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It's called What's Eating You with the letter U.
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And it's important for people to actually see exactly what these modalities
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are like so they don't feel so scared.
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Because I know when I first was like, what's NAD? How am I going to feel?
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What kind of red light is good?
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What do you mean cold plunging? Like all of those things, I'm like,
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I want to see it. What's HBOT? What's a hyperbaric chamber oxygen therapy?
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Like I do that weekly. Like I have one at my house because I do it so much.
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So it's really important to know what these modalities are and how they'll help
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push you through some of your chronic healing.
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Yeah there's so many things that we can do which i'm so appreciative and then
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everybody can pick like their recipe like these are the things that i'm gonna fit in my time my budget
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and thank you for explaining parasites and how to figure out a cleanse okay
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so my next question i didn't even have that this one on my list,
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i have four boys so it's my husband and myself four boys we have six people in the house.
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I have heard that it's important that everybody does it at the same time.
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Is that true or can I just do it or how does that work?
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You all should do it at the same time. You all share the same microbiome and
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they can be transferred from person to person.
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And so you really, especially pinworms, they're lice of the butt.
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We just get so freaked about lice, but I'd be more freaked about pinworms because
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they're internal and external.
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Where lice is just external. And so you really do need to do good, solid cleansing.
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You should do good, solid cleansings three to four times a year anyway,
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but you should all do it together. Now, if you're afraid because you wanna try
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it first, then you do it first.
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See how you wanna manage working with them or at least start two weeks before
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them and then have them follow along behind you.
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But you all should do it at the same time. And one kit is for one person.
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However, I do give you a lot of product.
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So because you have a large house you could probably do three kits with three pair of tinctures.
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I just really wanted to make this affordable. I mean there's other products
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out there that are $700, $800 for a 30-day cleanse and it's really expensive
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and I know what this looks like for everyone.
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When I started this journey I was dying in the woods in 2019.
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I was on food stamps and like bankrupt. My husband and I went bankrupt in 2019 because I was so sick.
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I ran 25 healthcare colleges and I did all these great things.
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And then my health declined so fast and rapidly, I took us down to nothing.
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And so when I created this product and I created Rogers Hood,
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I wanted it to be affordable, available, and efficient because no one has time to keep doing this.
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We all have lives to live and no one wants to be on the toilet all day.
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Nobody wants to feel yucky.
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It's really something that we should be doing as a family, as Western medicine
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countries, other countries deworm.
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I don't know if people realize that you can go to the pharmacy in Mexico and
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get a $7 to $10 anti-parasitic and do it a couple of.
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We just lost this way, and I don't think it's just because of Western medicine
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and the villainization that we've done to it.
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I do believe that we've all just gone, there's no way we have worms,
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and then we left it at that.
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I think you're right. I don't want to think about worms inside me.
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That's gross. That's my job.
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Thank you for coming on the Health with Hashimoto's podcast to tell us all about it.
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And I'm going to do the standard disclaimer. And like we talked about earlier,
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you are the CEO of your own health.
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Your doctor is on your medical team of advisors. They're advising you to the best of their ability.
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As a CEO, it's your job to learn the information and make the best decision.
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That's it for today if you are ready to sort your Hashimoto's into thyroid or
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immune start with Hashimoto's decoded and then come talk about it in the free
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community both links are in the show notes I'll see you next week
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this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only please discuss
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any questions or concerns with your trusted healthcare professional.