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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America tonight.
- 0:03Speaker 2: My worst fear was letting the team that was working
- 0:05Speaker 2: so diligently to rescue me down.
- 0:10Speaker 3: The Air Force colonel who was shot down over Iran,
- 0:13Speaker 3: then evaded Iranian forces for 50 hours, finally speaking out.
- 0:19Speaker 3: We will tell his harrowing story tonight. We've also got
- 0:21Speaker 3: the latest on where the conflict with Iran stands tonight.
- 0:25Speaker 3: plus a major ghost daycare center fraud scheme in San Diego, California, busted.
- 0:31Speaker 3: And we've got one of the folks who helped to
- 0:33Speaker 3: bust it and expose it. She'll join us tonight on
- 0:36Speaker 3: the program in studio. And a new report says that
- 0:40Speaker 3: beloved actress Hayden Panettiere took a fentanyl-laced.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Pill right before she died.
- 0:46Speaker 3: An angel mom who lost her son the same way
- 0:49Speaker 3: will join us tonight to discuss the crisis, the epidemic
- 0:52Speaker 3: of fentanyl in America. I'm Dan Bull, and Real America
- 0:55Speaker 3: starts right now. Good Wednesday evening to you folks. We
- 1:18Speaker 3: begin the program in the Middle East. The six-month-old conflict
- 1:21Speaker 3: with Iran continues to escalate amid rising regional tension and
- 1:26Speaker 3: growing costs at home. And I'll admit it, folks, as
- 1:30Speaker 3: a Trump supporter and as a registered Republican, even though
- 1:34Speaker 3: I'm not always on the side of the Republican Party,
- 1:36Speaker 3: just conservative values, I'm worried about this midterm because of
- 1:40Speaker 3: this conflict and because of rising prices here at home. Now,
- 1:45Speaker 3: right now, we don't see any peace in sight.
- 1:49Speaker 4: I don't.
- 1:50Speaker 3: And the conflict is actually spreading once again. As a
- 1:53Speaker 3: matter of fact, the Houthis, you know, that terror group
- 1:56Speaker 3: that's funded and backed and paid for by Iran over
- 1:59Speaker 3: in Yemen, they've been attacking Saudi Arabia, hitting their own people,
- 2:05Speaker 3: other Muslims, targeting oil facilities and port cities around the
- 2:10Speaker 3: Red Sea. Here's a crazy one, but not so crazy
- 2:13Speaker 3: because these people are insane. They reportedly launched an attack
- 2:17Speaker 3: on Mecca. You know what Mecca is, right? That is
- 2:20Speaker 3: something folks in the world of Islam, Muslims, consider the
- 2:24Speaker 3: most holy site.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
- 2:29Speaker 3: You're literally trying to spread your caliphate, your Islamic world,
- 2:32Speaker 3: around the globe, right? You're going to go bomb one
- 2:35Speaker 3: of your own holy lands. That right there shows you
- 2:38Speaker 3: how nuts these people are. So with those attacks festering,
- 2:42Speaker 3: The frustration in Washington, D.C. is spiking, and that brings
- 2:45Speaker 3: us to a vote on Tuesday. The House voted 220
- 2:48Speaker 3: to 204 to approve a so-called War Powers Resolution, marking
- 2:53Speaker 3: the third approval of such a measure since the military
- 2:55Speaker 3: operation began in February. Seven Republicans joined the Democrats in
- 2:58Speaker 3: supporting the effort, and now will go to the Senate,
- 3:01Speaker 3: where it will likely be struck down. Nonetheless, it also
- 3:04Speaker 3: comes amid renewed calls for a diplomatic solution. Yeah, that
- 3:07Speaker 3: hasn't worked. Interestingly enough, a diplomatic breakthrough could be underway,
- 3:11Speaker 3: they tell us. I'm not going to hold my breath.
- 3:14Speaker 1: However, U.S.
- 3:15Speaker 3: Officials reportedly met with representatives of the Houthis over this
- 3:18Speaker 3: past weekend. And the Houthis said they don't intend to
- 3:22Speaker 3: attack any American vessels or anything around the Strait of Hormuz. However,
- 3:27Speaker 3: they're still attacking Saudi ships and they're hitting within Saudi Arabia.
- 3:31Speaker 3: So the Saudis are striking back. While Houthi terrorists fire
- 3:35Speaker 3: drones and missiles, towards military sites and ports. And like
- 3:38Speaker 3: I said, Mecca, Saudi warplanes now started bombing the Houthis.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Great.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Can we just get this thing with Iran over with
- 3:48Speaker 3: before the election? That's what I'd love to hear. And
- 3:50Speaker 3: I don't think diplomacy is going to work anymore. Joining
- 3:52Speaker 3: me now with some more insight into the conflict in Iran,
- 3:55Speaker 3: retired Army Major General and former FBI and DEA Task
- 3:59Speaker 3: Force agent, General John King.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Back on the program. General, I've had you on before.
- 4:03Speaker 1: We've discussed this before.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Let me just say it as plain as I can.
- 4:08Speaker 3: I think that the advisors to President Trump months ago
- 4:10Speaker 3: got it wrong, right? We hit him hard at first,
- 4:13Speaker 3: then we pulled back. We tried diplomacy, hit him again,
- 4:16Speaker 3: tried diplomacy.
- 4:17Speaker 1: It didn't work. I think we have got to call.
- 4:20Speaker 3: On our Middle Eastern allies, like the Saudis who just
- 4:22Speaker 3: got hit by the Houthis, who we know Iran pays for,
- 4:25Speaker 3: and just do an all-out strike with other States helping us,
- 4:31Speaker 3: meaning the Saudis, the Egyptians, the ones that we sell
- 4:33Speaker 3: jets and rockets and missiles to. How about they come
- 4:36Speaker 3: help us take Iran out and finish this?
- 4:39Speaker 1: Your thoughts?
- 4:41Speaker 5: Well, Dan, not only we need to enlist their help,
- 4:44Speaker 5: But they need to help themselves also. And that's the
- 4:46Speaker 5: key component here. They are being attacked. And the United
- 4:49Speaker 5: States has been the guarantor of peace and stability in
- 4:52Speaker 5: the region for.
- 4:53Speaker 6: Many, many years. Now they're on the hook.
- 4:57Speaker 5: Not only is the Strait of Hormuz being affected, but
- 4:59Speaker 5: also the transit ships into the Red Sea, into the
- 5:03Speaker 5: Suez Canal are also going to be affected. And to
- 5:06Speaker 5: rely on assurances from the Houthis that they won't attack
- 5:09Speaker 5: any other vessels but Saudi, I don't think a lot
- 5:12Speaker 5: of insurance companies would really insure any vessel going through
- 5:15Speaker 5: with that kind of assurance.
- 5:16Speaker 6: And so I think... It's going to be in effect.
- 5:20Speaker 5: And of course, the only other alternative is to go
- 5:22Speaker 5: around Africa, which will add about 14 to 20 plus
- 5:26Speaker 5: days round trip. And so that puts additional strain on
- 5:31Speaker 5: the oil markets.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, let's be real.
- 5:34Speaker 3: Everybody votes with their pocketbook. We told them to vote
- 5:36Speaker 3: with their pocketbook under Biden because it was four years
- 5:38Speaker 3: of of crazy prices and they started going down. Then
- 5:41Speaker 3: this conflict started and they went back up. And so, again,
- 5:44Speaker 3: if we keep that mantra, vote with your pocketbook, then
- 5:47Speaker 3: Republicans lose the House and, God forbid, the Senate, and
- 5:50Speaker 3: then we know what would be unleashed if Democrats take
- 5:52Speaker 3: back over, so I don't want to even talk about that.
- 5:54Speaker 1: What do you think the president should do?
- 5:56Speaker 5: I think he has to ramp up again the military presence.
- 6:04Speaker 5: I mean, the fact that we have to now reestablish
- 6:06Speaker 5: air supremacy because obviously we backed off. And so we're
- 6:09Speaker 5: going to have to reestablish that so we can increase
- 6:12Speaker 5: the pressure. And we're going to have to help our allies.
- 6:14Speaker 5: I know we don't want to get involved in a
- 6:17Speaker 5: conflict with the Houthis, but the capacity of the Saudis
- 6:21Speaker 5: to finish that job and open up the Red Sea
- 6:24Speaker 5: and the Suez Canal are absolutely critical to international markets.
- 6:29Speaker 5: So we're stuck in a really bad place that many
- 6:32Speaker 5: of us could see ahead of time if we didn't
- 6:34Speaker 5: finish the task months ago.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Gotcha.
- 6:36Speaker 3: My final one's an easy one to you. Throw the
- 6:38Speaker 3: headline up. Republican, if he still calls himself that. I
- 6:42Speaker 3: don't know what he is anymore. Congressman Thomas Massey just
- 6:46Speaker 3: introduced this week impeachment articles against Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
- 6:51Speaker 1: You were a general in the military.
- 6:53Speaker 3: You served under Secretary of Defense's now Secretary of War's.
- 6:57Speaker 3: You've seen how he's handled himself. You see now he's
- 6:59Speaker 3: handled this conflict that his president told him to engage in.
- 7:03Speaker 3: So I want your opinion as a general. What do
- 7:06Speaker 3: you think about Massey's move against Hegseth?
- 7:09Speaker 6: It's just an additional distraction.
- 7:11Speaker 5: It's a ploy to get clicks and get maybe his
- 7:15Speaker 5: campaign contribution. It's not a real serious issue, and nobody
- 7:21Speaker 5: should really take this seriously. I mean, we are in
- 7:24Speaker 5: the middle of a conflict to go and try to
- 7:27Speaker 5: take political shots at the administration in the middle when
- 7:30Speaker 5: we have service members in harm's way.
- 7:33Speaker 6: It's just silly politics.
- 7:35Speaker 3: I don't think Massey ever served, did he? Maybe that's
- 7:37Speaker 3: why he doesn't understand that. While troops are in.
- 7:40Speaker 5: Harm's way, you don't do that. If he did serve,
- 7:43Speaker 5: he ought to know what's at stake.
- 7:44Speaker 1: He did serve. Oh, then he should know better. He
- 7:47Speaker 1: should know better.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Absolutely. When troops are in a foreign operating zone, you
- 7:50Speaker 3: and I know this, and I was just a lowly E4.
- 7:53Speaker 3: You don't, especially when you're an elected politician, you don't
- 7:56Speaker 3: do that. That's not good for morale for the troops.
- 7:58Speaker 3: It's not good for anybody. I think it's despicable what
- 8:01Speaker 3: Massey just did. Anyway, Major General John King, thank you, sir,
- 8:05Speaker 3: for weighing in.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
- 8:07Speaker 6: Thank you, Dan.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Yet, when it happened, it was perfectly clear to me
- 8:20Speaker 2: that we'd been hit because of the violence.
- 8:23Speaker 6: Of that impact.
- 8:24Speaker 7: Can you describe it or what you and your crewmate
- 8:27Speaker 7: were able to say to each other?
- 8:28Speaker 2: I think the best way I've been able to describe
- 8:32Speaker 2: that moment was getting hit by a freight train. We
- 8:37Speaker 2: do all we can to try to save the aircraft.
- 8:40Speaker 2: It was evident that that wasn't possible. And soon thereafter,
- 8:45Speaker 2: we ejected and found ourselves floating over the heart of Iran.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Whoa.
- 8:52Speaker 3: How about let's shift to a positive story on Iran
- 8:54Speaker 3: now in tonight's Patriot Report and the military hero who
- 8:56Speaker 3: was shot down back in April, roughly five weeks into
- 9:00Speaker 3: the conflict. His name hasn't been publicly shared, but his
- 9:03Speaker 3: story was shared this past Sunday on 60 Minutes. And
- 9:05Speaker 3: let me tell you, it was harrowing. During the mission,
- 9:09Speaker 3: he was the co-pilot, aviator, right? And his pilot, they
- 9:12Speaker 3: were Over Iran, they were shooting targets, and then they
- 9:18Speaker 3: got hit. That forced them to eject. So they're identifying
- 9:22Speaker 3: them as Alpha. So the pilot, Alpha, he was recovered
- 9:25Speaker 3: six hours after they ejected. The co-pilot, they're calling him Bravo,
- 9:29Speaker 3: was stuck on the ground in Iran for over 50 hours.
- 9:34Speaker 3: While Iranian bounty hunters, the Iranian military, anybody looking to
- 9:38Speaker 3: collect a paycheck was out there trying to kill him.
- 9:42Speaker 1: While our pararescuers were trying to recover him. Despite, you ready?
- 9:48Speaker 3: Sprained ankle, broken arm, broken back, broken shoulder, blood coming
- 9:53Speaker 3: down his face from scratches and all over. This guy
- 9:58Speaker 3: was able to scale. a 7,000-foot mountain ridge, stay in
- 10:04Speaker 3: communication with U.S. command until we got him. All he
- 10:08Speaker 3: had was a pistol and a radio that barely worked
- 10:10Speaker 3: and a tracking beacon.
- 10:13Speaker 1: His first message out, I'm hurt. I'm moving. God is good.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Could you get up and move with a broken.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Back, arm, and shoulder, and climb a 7,000- And he's
- 10:28Speaker 3: no big, yoked up, ripped big Navy SEAL guy.
- 10:32Speaker 1: This is a pilot. Run a little more of it.
- 10:38Speaker 3: So your seat was damaged by Iranian fire, and yet
- 10:41Speaker 3: you still were able to eject safely.
- 10:44Speaker 8: I was.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Did your parachute deploy?
- 10:49Speaker 2: My parachute was damaged in the initial attack at one
- 10:53Speaker 2: point when I looked up and saw no parachute.
- 10:59Speaker 6: That was the most....
- 11:06Speaker 2: It was the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. So
- 11:10Speaker 2: I paused right then and I prayed, Lord, you will
- 11:16Speaker 2: be done. but if I'm getting through this, I need help.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Wow. Talk about a miracle between surviving the landing. Forget that.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Surviving getting shot by a rocket, then surviving a streaming
- 11:27Speaker 3: parachute hitting the ground at 70, 80 miles an hour,
- 11:30Speaker 3: then surviving all the bounty hunters looking for you for
- 11:32Speaker 3: two days.
- 11:33Speaker 1: God was protecting that hero.
- 11:36Speaker 3: Speaking of that, he also talked about how they pulled
- 11:38Speaker 3: off the entire mission of actually rescuing him on foreign lands.
- 11:42Speaker 7: Watch.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I had injuries, but We all train to adapt and
- 11:47Speaker 2: overcome the things that we're faced with. I moved as
- 11:52Speaker 2: quickly as I could, despite the injuries, away from the
- 11:56Speaker 2: place that I landed. It's not just what you need
- 11:59Speaker 2: to do, it's the time frame that you need to
- 12:01Speaker 2: do them in. So for me, I was focused on
- 12:04Speaker 2: things like getting away from the enemy, finding the right
- 12:08Speaker 2: place to communicate, getting.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Finding the way to hide or defeat the ways that
- 12:17Speaker 2: the enemy might track me.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Joining me now to discuss this brave American hero. He
- 12:22Speaker 3: is a senior geopolitical and military strategist and a former
- 12:25Speaker 3: Blackhawk pilot and battalion commander, retired Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gob, back.
- 12:30Speaker 1: On the program.
- 12:31Speaker 3: Colonel, this guy, I mean, you want to talk about
- 12:34Speaker 3: having an angel on your shoulder as that rocket hits.
- 12:39Speaker 3: and the plane doesn't blow. They're able to eject. Then
- 12:42Speaker 3: his parachute catches on fire and becomes a streamer. He
- 12:46Speaker 3: hits the ground. I heard it's 70 miles an hour plus.
- 12:49Speaker 3: He's got broken bones, a broken back. This guy moves
- 12:53Speaker 3: around evading people wanting to kill him for days and
- 12:57Speaker 3: climbs a 7,000-foot mountain ridge to get rescued.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Holy Moses.
- 13:03Speaker 3: How does anybody survive and do that? Darren, your reaction
- 13:07Speaker 3: when you heard this story Sunday night?
- 13:10Speaker 9: Yeah, Dan, I would say that your concluding portion there
- 13:14Speaker 9: is how does a guy do this? And I would
- 13:16Speaker 9: tell you that he would probably say again, what you
- 13:20Speaker 9: heard in that interview, he said, God, your will be done.
- 13:24Speaker 9: And if I'm going to survive this, I need your help.
- 13:26Speaker 9: There is no other explanation for something like that other
- 13:29Speaker 9: than divine intervention. And There is absolutely no doubt in
- 13:33Speaker 9: my mind that both crew members know this. Many people
- 13:35Speaker 9: watching know this. And those specifically who, by the way,
- 13:39Speaker 9: went through the reintegration process for both these crew members
- 13:42Speaker 9: got to hear that story over and over and over
- 13:45Speaker 9: again and became very familiar with the fact that outside
- 13:51Speaker 9: of God's intervention, they should not have been there able
- 13:55Speaker 9: to talk to them again. And I think that is
- 13:57Speaker 9: probably the number one story. And number two is that
- 14:02Speaker 9: the Department of Defense makes promises when they send their
- 14:05Speaker 9: people behind enemy lines that they will move heaven and
- 14:07Speaker 9: earth to go get them.
- 14:08Speaker 1: That's right.
- 14:09Speaker 6: And they did.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Right. No man left behind.
- 14:11Speaker 3: And I loved hearing from Raisin Cain also in that interview,
- 14:14Speaker 3: the head of the Air Force there that, hey, you know,
- 14:16Speaker 3: the CIA and our intel community helped out. We told
- 14:20Speaker 3: we put through some channels, back channels, right? to the
- 14:23Speaker 3: Iranian forces so they would think that they were hearing
- 14:25Speaker 3: something secret.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Oh, he's over here. We're going to rescue him.
- 14:28Speaker 3: And that got all of them moving to an entirely
- 14:30Speaker 3: different region thinking he was over here. We played the
- 14:34Speaker 3: old fake and he was over here. That is some
- 14:36Speaker 3: good working together with our intelligence and military communities to
- 14:40Speaker 3: bring this brave pilot home.
- 14:42Speaker 9: Yeah, Dan, I will tell you that this is not
- 14:44Speaker 9: something that they made up 100% on the fly. I mean,
- 14:48Speaker 9: some of it, you're going to have to be dynamic
- 14:50Speaker 9: dealing with whatever situation is in front of you. But
- 14:53Speaker 9: I've been through about every joint personal recovery course there is.
- 14:56Speaker 9: And actually, I have been through all of them. I've
- 14:58Speaker 9: been through the SEER level courses that you need to
- 15:01Speaker 9: go through as a pilot and as a trainer of
- 15:05Speaker 9: people in both search and rescue and in survival. These scenarios,
- 15:12Speaker 9: we push them through training on the ground in person
- 15:17Speaker 9: and in the schoolhouse regularly. You have to think out
- 15:21Speaker 9: well outside of the box, think of every option you
- 15:24Speaker 9: possibly can. Those agencies all come together and talk through
- 15:27Speaker 9: how to do various things and bring their capabilities to
- 15:30Speaker 9: the table that they're able to advertise. And of course,
- 15:32Speaker 9: it's all a very classified environment, as you can imagine,
- 15:37Speaker 9: and you know why. So for every one or two
- 15:41Speaker 9: things they're sharing with you, there's about five or six
- 15:44Speaker 9: more things they're not telling you, and I guarantee you,
- 15:47Speaker 9: they work. But that's how seriously... We all take recovering
- 15:52Speaker 9: our own.
- 15:53Speaker 8: Yep.
- 15:53Speaker 3: That's why we're always told when we go in, we
- 15:56Speaker 3: never leave a man behind. We always bring them home.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Was that a, they blurred it out. So it was
- 16:01Speaker 3: probably the special one, but it looked like a Blackhawk,
- 16:03Speaker 3: probably the Air Force pararescue guys that saved him because
- 16:06Speaker 3: you were a Blackhawk pilot. So I'm just throwing that
- 16:08Speaker 3: in there real quick. Was that the bird they used?
- 16:10Speaker 3: They fuzzed it out. So I know it was one
- 16:11Speaker 3: of the top secret Blackhawks.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 16:15Speaker 9: Let's just say there's more than a few versions of
- 16:17Speaker 9: these things floating around.
- 16:18Speaker 1: That's all you gotta say. I'm not going above my
- 16:21Speaker 1: pay grade. All right. Thank you, Darren, for weighing in.
- 16:24Speaker 3: We're glad to see Bravo back home on American soil,
- 16:27Speaker 3: safe and sound. But to hear that heroic story, what
- 16:30Speaker 3: a nightmare he went through. But man, that took God
- 16:32Speaker 3: almighty and a lot of grit from that pilot.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Darren, thanks for weighing in on it. Appreciate you.
- 16:37Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 16:37Speaker 7: Yep.
- 16:38Speaker 1: All right.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, a huge bust of fake.
- 16:43Speaker 3: daycare centers. Oh yeah, where else in Southern California? Just
- 16:47Speaker 3: got announced this week.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
- 16:49Speaker 3: We got one of the folks behind the scenes responsible
- 16:52Speaker 3: for bringing it all down. He's going to join us
- 16:54Speaker 3: in studio next. Plus, cause of death of beloved actress
- 16:58Speaker 3: Hayden Panettiere. Now, once again, putting the dangers of fentanyl
- 17:03Speaker 3: back into the spotlight. An angel mom who lost her
- 17:06Speaker 3: son to a fentanyl-laced pill will sound off next. And
- 17:10Speaker 3: then a bit later on the program, the presidential pardon
- 17:12Speaker 3: system under fire tonight. Our good friend Angela Stanton King,
- 17:15Speaker 3: who received a full pardon from President Trump, will weigh in.
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- 17:57Speaker 10: The biggest problem with finding fraud is actually that the
- 18:01Speaker 10: states where it's worst are also the states that have
- 18:04Speaker 10: the least willingness to cooperate with what we're doing.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Yeah. Gee, and what states would those be that don't
- 18:10Speaker 1: want to cooperate? Blue ones.
- 18:13Speaker 3: Sounds like we should start, I don't know, investigating every
- 18:16Speaker 3: blue state out there. And don't get me wrong, I'm
- 18:19Speaker 3: not saying fraud doesn't happen in red states.
- 18:21Speaker 1: It does. I've covered it on this program.
- 18:23Speaker 3: Matter of fact, our friend Chad Caton busted fraud near Columbus, Ohio,
- 18:27Speaker 3: my home state. So we'll bust them if they're taking
- 18:30Speaker 3: our money and blowing it. I don't care if it's
- 18:32Speaker 3: daycare centers, hospice fraud, Medicare, Medicaid, you name it. It's
- 18:37Speaker 3: out there, and the Trump administration is going after it.
- 18:40Speaker 3: And I say thank you. And a big thank you
- 18:42Speaker 3: to the task force led by our vice president, who
- 18:44Speaker 3: you just heard from right there. We've got to bust
- 18:47Speaker 3: these bad guys because someday there's not going to be
- 18:50Speaker 3: cash in the coffers for some of these programs if
- 18:52Speaker 3: we don't. Speaking of busting fraudsters, a foreign national from
- 18:56Speaker 3: Georgia just got indicted for money laundering in connection to
- 18:59Speaker 3: a massive, what else, health care fraud scheme. Of course,
- 19:02Speaker 3: they love the health care, don't they? Prosecutors argue this man,
- 19:05Speaker 3: who allegedly fled the U.S. last July, submitted $ 1. 3 billion,
- 19:11Speaker 3: with a B, billion dollars in fraudulent claims to Medicare
- 19:14Speaker 3: between February and July of 2025 through his medical equipment
- 19:18Speaker 3: company in Pennsylvania. Even worse, those fraudulent claims relied on
- 19:22Speaker 3: the stolen identities of American citizens in Massachusetts and beyond,
- 19:28Speaker 3: including disabled people and seniors.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Of course, you take advantage of the most vulnerable.
- 19:33Speaker 3: On top of it all, the suspect in question allegedly
- 19:35Speaker 3: moved the stolen money into overseas accounts for a transnational
- 19:40Speaker 3: criminal organization that operates out of Russia and elsewhere. And
- 19:46Speaker 3: if you think it's only one case here, one case there,
- 19:50Speaker 3: oh no. There's stories like this across our friggin' country, folks.
- 19:55Speaker 3: And let's bring it back to California, where unfortunately I live.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Federal investigators making waves this week in connection to a
- 20:01Speaker 3: huge investigation in California.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Take a look.
- 20:05Speaker 11: 12 arrests and charges in Operation Cradle to Grift, a
- 20:12Speaker 11: fraud investigation that has so far uncovered 12 ghost daycares
- 20:17Speaker 11: in the San Diego area. Based on today's allegations, over
- 20:21Speaker 11: 10 million taxpayer dollars that were supposed to support our
- 20:25Speaker 11: children were stolen by criminal actors.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Cradle to Grift. I like it. That's exactly what they
- 20:31Speaker 1: were doing.
- 20:32Speaker 3: That was our assistant attorney general, by the way, Colin McDonald,
- 20:34Speaker 3: announcing the arrest of these fraudsters, which, oh, by the way,
- 20:38Speaker 3: they were exposed months ago in viral videos that we
- 20:42Speaker 3: showed you from independent journalist Nick Shirley and our next guest.
- 20:48Speaker 1: What did they do? They didn't do anything extraordinary.
- 20:50Speaker 3: They didn't have the FBI behind them or anything like that.
- 20:52Speaker 3: They didn't have CBS or Fox News behind them.
- 20:55Speaker 7: No.
- 20:55Speaker 3: They just hit the streets with a camera and their guts,
- 20:59Speaker 3: and they documented their work online. And now, foreign scumbags,
- 21:04Speaker 3: matter of fact, a dozen of them, from Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia,
- 21:07Speaker 3: and the rest of their hellholes, are now all facing charges.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Thank goodness.
- 21:13Speaker 3: Like fraud charges, carrying up to 20 years in prison, $ 500, 000 fine,
- 21:18Speaker 3: others facing money laundering charges. And again, that's where our
- 21:22Speaker 3: next guest comes into play. She went to one of
- 21:25Speaker 3: the ghost daycares where one of these alleged, I'm supposed
- 21:28Speaker 3: to say, scumbags was just arrested. I want you to
- 21:32Speaker 3: look around and you tell me, would you drop your
- 21:34Speaker 3: kid off at this place and go, sure, I want
- 21:37Speaker 3: my two-year-old to stay at this daycare?
- 21:39Speaker 1: Watch this crap.
- 21:40Speaker 7: This is where one of the defendants for the ghost
- 21:44Speaker 7: daycare was arrested, according to a neighbor last week. So
- 21:52Speaker 7: as you can see, this was the location of one
- 21:57Speaker 7: of these ghost daycares. Here you go. We have a
- 22:02Speaker 7: hookah in the front yard of what was once a
- 22:10Speaker 7: Licensed daycare under Gavin Newsom.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a daycare. My, you know what.
- 22:20Speaker 3: Joining me now in studio, the founder and chairwoman of
- 22:23Speaker 3: Restore San Diego, who was out there with Nick Shirley
- 22:26Speaker 3: months ago, exposing all this to the federal government and
- 22:30Speaker 3: then kudos the Trump administration for busting him, Amy Reichert.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Amy, thanks for joining us in studio. Welcome back here.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Great to be here.
- 22:37Speaker 7: It's a great day for America.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:39Speaker 3: And look, you just called up Nick like a concerned citizen,
- 22:42Speaker 3: a concerned mom and said, hey, I'm pretty sure there's
- 22:45Speaker 3: scumbags in San Diego. Will you come here? Nick showed
- 22:48Speaker 3: up this past summer. I remember we had you in
- 22:50Speaker 3: when you were with him like that week. And you said, man,
- 22:53Speaker 3: we uncovered a whole bunch of fraud. Here's the fruits
- 22:56Speaker 3: of your labor busted.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Good for you.
- 22:59Speaker 7: Busted and the man that you just saw from the
- 23:01Speaker 7: daycare from my video is Mohammed al-awad course it is
- 23:07Speaker 7: and every single one of these defendants arrived in the
- 23:11Speaker 7: United States as a Refugee and according to the DOJ
- 23:15Speaker 7: within just two years of being in the United States
- 23:18Speaker 7: We're committing millions of dollars of fraud Wow, you know what?
- 23:22Speaker 3: I always wonder Amy Is there a playbook for these
- 23:25Speaker 3: scumbags in their foreign countries and they're told, when you
- 23:27Speaker 3: get over there, America's so stupid, you can take advantage
- 23:29Speaker 3: of their system.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Or, hear me out.
- 23:31Speaker 3: Is it the Democrat socialists that tell them how to
- 23:33Speaker 3: do it and encourage them to? Because we see this
- 23:36Speaker 3: red-green alliance, right, with the socialist Marxists right now and
- 23:39Speaker 3: the Muslim community. They seem to be buddying up, pairing up.
- 23:43Speaker 3: And most of these fraudsters are coming from Middle Eastern countries.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Not all.
- 23:46Speaker 3: There's Asian fraudsters, too. I know that woman that ran
- 23:48Speaker 3: back to China we're looking for. So there's plenty of fraudsters.
- 23:51Speaker 3: But I just wonder if they're told, hey, act like
- 23:54Speaker 3: you're an asylum seeker. Go over there and just take
- 23:56Speaker 3: their tax dollars because you can do fraudulent business with
- 23:59Speaker 3: America all the time. or if they're told by some
- 24:02Speaker 3: of our lawmakers.
- 24:03Speaker 1: I wonder.
- 24:04Speaker 7: I do believe that they're in cahoots. And at the
- 24:07Speaker 7: press conference yesterday, the DOJ specifically said that the California
- 24:11Speaker 7: state inspectors knew there was fraud and these NGOs that
- 24:16Speaker 7: receive hundreds of millions of dollars at the county level
- 24:19Speaker 7: alone to give to these fraudsters also knew.
- 24:23Speaker 1: But that means then they look the other way.
- 24:26Speaker 3: So again, I'll say, I wonder why they look the
- 24:28Speaker 3: other way, these darn Democrats. Why are they looking the
- 24:32Speaker 3: other way when it comes to all this fraud? Speaking
- 24:34Speaker 3: of that, did you hear the biggest fraudster in California,
- 24:37Speaker 3: that Governor Newsom said if we get that return check
- 24:40Speaker 3: from Trump, he wants.
- 24:41Speaker 1: To tax the check.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Isn't that our tax dollars that go to the federal
- 24:45Speaker 3: government that already get taxed, and then if they give
- 24:47Speaker 3: us some back, he wants to tax it in California.
- 24:50Speaker 1: You talk about a fraudster, he's the top slick fraudster,
- 24:53Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom.
- 24:54Speaker 7: He wants to tax American citizens, but when it comes
- 24:58Speaker 7: to these foreign fraudsters who arrive here with every intent
- 25:03Speaker 7: of defrauding us and not being a good American citizen,
- 25:06Speaker 7: buying Rolls Royces, expensive Rolexes, taking expensive extended trips to
- 25:12Speaker 7: the Middle East, and of course, just like you said,
- 25:15Speaker 7: the money all comes back to Gavin Newsom. because the
- 25:19Speaker 7: money gets funneled through his preferred non-government organizations, who then,
- 25:24Speaker 7: at election time, support him and his Democrat friends.
- 25:27Speaker 1: Yeah, see, that's what happens, too. I always say that.
- 25:30Speaker 3: So they allow them this fraud, folks, so not only
- 25:33Speaker 3: they can enrich themselves, but I think it's predetermined.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Hey, if we allow you.
- 25:36Speaker 3: To do this fraud, and you're making $ 100 million, a
- 25:39Speaker 3: couple billion, whatever, then you be sure to put a
- 25:41Speaker 3: bunch of that money back into Democrat coffers for their
- 25:45Speaker 3: campaigns so they can continue to win elections.
- 25:48Speaker 1: It's a vicious cycle. That's what I see happening. How
- 25:51Speaker 1: about you?
- 25:51Speaker 7: You're absolutely correct. So Gavin Newsom's response right off the
- 25:55Speaker 7: bat was not to say, oh my gosh, there's fraud
- 25:58Speaker 7: in California? Let's prosecute them. No, he attacked the people
- 26:02Speaker 7: exposing the fraud. He called me on social media Donald
- 26:07Speaker 7: Trump's stooge. He called Nick Shirley. Basically, he used a
- 26:11Speaker 7: meme accusing him basically of being a pedophile.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I saw that.
- 26:15Speaker 3: And then the Democrats made a bill, the Nick Shirley Act,
- 26:18Speaker 3: which is going to really hamper independent journalists from going
- 26:20Speaker 3: to these places, like right there's video of Nick doing it,
- 26:23Speaker 3: and you can get arrested and fined if you go
- 26:25Speaker 3: do that, and what the Democrats in Sacramento are calling harassment.
- 26:28Speaker 3: If you go and harass a Medicare, a daycare, a hospice,
- 26:31Speaker 3: a leering, learning center, any of that, you could face
- 26:35Speaker 3: the fine, you could face jail time. Instead of the
- 26:37Speaker 3: darn fraudster, y'all are trying to bust. I give you
- 26:39Speaker 3: the final word, Amy.
- 26:40Speaker 7: Well, as we know, fraud is bad, and exposing fraud
- 26:44Speaker 7: is not racist. And it's a great day for American taxpayers.
- 26:48Speaker 7: $ 10 million has been exposed and there's more to come.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Awesome.
- 26:52Speaker 3: Can't wait to see who you expose next. Founder of
- 26:55Speaker 3: Restore San Diego, Amy Riker. Thanks for coming in studio.
- 26:57Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
- 26:58Speaker 1: If I can reach you over there. Thank you so much.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Keep it up.
- 27:01Speaker 3: Folks, that shows you right there. You can do it too.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Grab your cell phone. Be an independent journalist. Go out
- 27:08Speaker 3: and find fraud in your neighborhood.
- 27:10Speaker 1: It's your tax dollars they're wasting. Anyway, straight ahead.
- 27:14Speaker 3: Authorities have released the cause of death for actress Hayden Panettiere.
- 27:18Speaker 3: And it once again puts the battle against fentanyl at
- 27:21Speaker 3: the top of the headlines. We're going to break it
- 27:22Speaker 3: all down with you with an angel mom who lost
- 27:26Speaker 3: her son to a pill laced with fentanyl next.
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- 28:10Speaker 8: I was miserable. I was in tears all the time.
- 28:17Speaker 8: Even though the alcohol helped my nervous system calm down, it.
- 28:24Speaker 10: Is a depressant.
- 28:26Speaker 8: So over time, it made things worse, not better. In
- 28:30Speaker 8: a moment or two, it might feel, give you the
- 28:34Speaker 8: illusion that it's making things better, but ultimately it becomes
- 28:40Speaker 8: backfires and it becomes a disaster.
- 28:44Speaker 1: She was struggling so much, wasn't she?
- 28:46Speaker 3: The late, beloved, young actress Hayden Panettiere on a podcast
- 28:50Speaker 3: just a few months before she died at the young
- 28:53Speaker 3: age of 36. You can literally hear that pain in
- 28:57Speaker 3: that young woman's voice. Exactly one month ago, she was
- 29:01Speaker 3: found unresponsive in a state of cardiac arrest in an
- 29:04Speaker 3: apartment in Greenville, South Carolina. Now, we're still waiting for
- 29:08Speaker 3: the official cause of death to be confirmed. However, there
- 29:13Speaker 3: is a lot of new news that has come out
- 29:15Speaker 3: suggesting it was an overdose, and we can kind of
- 29:18Speaker 3: point towards what pill. For instance, investigators think that she
- 29:22Speaker 3: took a counterfeit oxycodone pill that was laced with what? Fentanyl,
- 29:28Speaker 3: shortly before she died. Now they're trying to figure out
- 29:32Speaker 3: where the actress got the pill from. And folks, you've
- 29:35Speaker 3: heard me talk about this. We had tragedy in my
- 29:38Speaker 3: own family. This exact same thing.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Thing.
- 29:41Speaker 3: One pill, a young man in my family thought it
- 29:44Speaker 3: was something else from a family member, and it had
- 29:47Speaker 3: fentanyl in it. She reportedly met with her longtime drug
- 29:52Speaker 3: dealer in Los Angeles right before she flew to South Carolina.
- 29:57Speaker 3: And then her on and off again boyfriend, whatever, Brian Hickerson,
- 30:02Speaker 3: who was on the flight with her, supposedly told the
- 30:04Speaker 3: DEA that she did have a big bag of, quote, medication,
- 30:08Speaker 3: she put that in quotes, with her from L.A.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Back to South Carolina.
- 30:13Speaker 3: So, in light of that information, it is no wonder
- 30:15Speaker 3: investigators are now looking through years of text messages between
- 30:20Speaker 3: her and, what else are we going to call them,
- 30:23Speaker 3: her drug dealer. They reportedly found several messages discussing different
- 30:27Speaker 3: kinds of drugs and talking about buying pills for her
- 30:31Speaker 3: on the black market. Now, this could help determine who
- 30:34Speaker 3: sold her the fake Oxy that had the fentanyl. The
- 30:37Speaker 3: DEA haven't publicly identified any target in this investigation yet,
- 30:42Speaker 3: but officials, again, think she took several pills from this
- 30:47Speaker 3: unnamed dealer in LA, and one of them could have
- 30:50Speaker 3: been the one that took her life. In the meantime,
- 30:53Speaker 3: while investigators are still reviewing that situation, let's look at
- 30:56Speaker 3: this case through the lens of America's border drug problem
- 31:00Speaker 3: and fentanyl, which as we know, thanks to the Biden-Harris regime,
- 31:05Speaker 3: is all over our nation. This drug, fentanyl, 50 times
- 31:09Speaker 3: stronger than heroin. It's been the leading cause of death
- 31:12Speaker 3: for Americans aged 18 to 45 since 2021. Over 250,000
- 31:21Speaker 3: people have died in our nation because of fentanyl just
- 31:24Speaker 3: in the last five years. Despite these facts, overall drug
- 31:28Speaker 3: overdose deaths in the U.S. from other drugs is actually falling.
- 31:33Speaker 3: They fell for a third straight year in 2025, falling
- 31:35Speaker 3: historic peak in 22. Fentanyl deaths dropped by about 22%
- 31:40Speaker 3: last year, falling from roughly 48,000 people to 38,000, still
- 31:44Speaker 3: too much. Maybe that's because Trump closed the damn border.
- 31:47Speaker 3: That helped, I can tell you that right now. What's more,
- 31:50Speaker 3: fatal drug overdoses across the board are dropping. Per official
- 31:54Speaker 3: government data, drug overdose deaths dropped from 81,000 in 2024
- 31:57Speaker 3: to about 70,000 in 2025. But folks, the epidemic is far,
- 32:02Speaker 3: far from over. But at least we have a step
- 32:05Speaker 3: in the right direction. Experts attribute the drop to several things,
- 32:10Speaker 3: including the increased availability of overdose reversal drugs.
- 32:15Speaker 1: That still doesn't stop the overdose from happening.
- 32:17Speaker 3: Unfortunately, fighting the epidemic is tricky. for several reasons, including
- 32:21Speaker 3: the fact that dealers are selling their substances through.
- 32:24Speaker 1: The dark web and through code words on social media.
- 32:28Speaker 3: Yeah, police note that they'll use emojis and that coded
- 32:31Speaker 3: language to advertise the drugs and then sell them. They'll
- 32:35Speaker 3: use encrypted messages like Snapchat, where your messages go away.
- 32:39Speaker 3: The DEA has even created an emoji drug code guide
- 32:43Speaker 3: so that parents, teachers, and caregivers know what the kids
- 32:46Speaker 3: are doing. These codes frequently change to evade suspicion. And
- 32:50Speaker 3: the biggest concern are the fake pills. The DEA sees
- 32:54Speaker 3: 20 million fake pills and 15,000 pounds of fentanyl powder
- 32:59Speaker 3: in 2021 alone. They found that 40% of the fake
- 33:03Speaker 3: pills had fentanyl, enough to kill somebody. And here's the kicker.
- 33:08Speaker 3: One of the main reasons why fentanyl overdoses are falling
- 33:10Speaker 3: in America is because the Chinese government finally is cracking
- 33:14Speaker 3: down in their role on producing it. Yeah, fentanyl precursors
- 33:20Speaker 3: have China flooded the world in recent years, but now
- 33:22Speaker 3: that the Chinese government is actually disrupting it, we can
- 33:25Speaker 3: see some relief. And again, thank President Trump for that,
- 33:28Speaker 3: because guess what? During the tariff negotiations back and forth,
- 33:32Speaker 3: President Trump put pressure on China to do something about
- 33:36Speaker 3: the fentanyl.
- 33:37Speaker 1: That, and he closed the border.
- 33:41Speaker 3: This is so important, and I can guarantee it's important
- 33:43Speaker 3: to one of our next guests. She lost her teenage son, Weston.
- 33:47Speaker 1: To fentanyl.
- 33:49Speaker 3: Joining me now with reaction to everything I just brought up,
- 33:51Speaker 3: she's an angel mom. Again, who lost her son, Weston,
- 33:55Speaker 3: to a fentanyl pill. Ann Fundner, back on the program.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Joining Ann, he's the president and CEO of the Foundation
- 34:02Speaker 3: for Drug Policy Solutions and the author.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Of the book, One Nation Under the Influence. I wish
- 34:08Speaker 1: we didn't need that book. Dr.
- 34:09Speaker 3: Kevin Sabet. Ann, Kevin, thank you guys for coming on. Ann,
- 34:14Speaker 3: I'm going to begin with you. Just your reaction, you
- 34:18Speaker 3: probably watched that young actress. I mean, I watched her
- 34:20Speaker 3: on Heroes and Nashville. I know she did a bunch
- 34:22Speaker 3: of film as well, but I knew her as a
- 34:24Speaker 3: television actress and to see someone in that much pain
- 34:27Speaker 3: and then seeking out the drugs, thinking she's taking a pill,
- 34:31Speaker 3: an oxycodone, but then getting enough fentanyl powder in there
- 34:35Speaker 3: to kill her. Your reaction, another young life lost to
- 34:38Speaker 3: this damn fentanyl.
- 34:40Speaker 12: I mean, it's just tragic. She's such a beautiful girl.
- 34:44Speaker 12: You know, it's just save the cheerleaders, save the world.
- 34:47Speaker 12: I know so many of us were fan of hers
- 34:49Speaker 12: in Heroes. And, you know, she gave, she brought a
- 34:54Speaker 12: lot of us joy watching her. She did something so
- 34:56Speaker 12: amazingly beautiful with that heart of hers trying to save
- 34:58Speaker 12: the dolphins in Japan from the dolphin slaughter. She just
- 35:02Speaker 12: was good, but she struggled. She had demons and she
- 35:05Speaker 12: was trying to mask them. So what happens when you
- 35:07Speaker 12: buy things from number one drug dealers, but also, you know,
- 35:11Speaker 12: illicit drugs, there is no, there is no actual real
- 35:15Speaker 12: drug in these counterfeit pills. It's pure pressed powder with
- 35:19Speaker 12: fentanyl sprinkled in, and there is absolutely no pharmaceutical grade
- 35:23Speaker 12: in it whatsoever. And so, you know, it used to
- 35:26Speaker 12: be seven out of 10 pills were deadly, not a
- 35:29Speaker 12: great business, you know, model for the cartel. So now
- 35:32Speaker 12: it's three out of 10 of these pills are deadly
- 35:35Speaker 12: and you never know where the fentanyl is going to
- 35:37Speaker 12: be in the pill. So and which pill has more
- 35:40Speaker 12: than the other. So she got the deadly dose, unfortunately,
- 35:44Speaker 12: and it's just a tragedy all around. And it's so
- 35:48Speaker 12: many people's story.
- 35:49Speaker 1: It is, it is.
- 35:50Speaker 3: You heard my numbers. It's several hundred thousand families' stories. Kevin,
- 35:55Speaker 3: let's go to you on that. Because you're heading up
- 35:57Speaker 3: this foundation to try and get better drug policy out
- 36:00Speaker 3: there so we can stop this from happening. You heard
- 36:02Speaker 3: me say in the intro, dark web, social media, they've
- 36:06Speaker 3: got emoji codes and different words for whatever the drugs,
- 36:10Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell the words are, but
- 36:11Speaker 3: I know that, you know, you want to buy some whatever.
- 36:15Speaker 1: What can we do? What aren't we doing enough of
- 36:18Speaker 1: to stop this from happening? Right.
- 36:21Speaker 10: Well, thanks for having me on. And my heart goes
- 36:23Speaker 10: out to every angel mom out there. There are way
- 36:26Speaker 10: too many, and especially to Hayden's family right now for
- 36:29Speaker 10: having to deal with this. Addiction is a deadly disease,
- 36:32Speaker 10: and it's a disease of denial. It's denial by the individual,
- 36:35Speaker 10: by the family, by society, even. The fact that we
- 36:38Speaker 10: have so many people dying is way more than the
- 36:41Speaker 10: Vietnam War, even. Every year is a stain on our society.
- 36:45Speaker 10: And frankly, We need to hold, first of all, companies accountable.
- 36:48Speaker 10: Social media companies need to be held accountable on this
- 36:51Speaker 10: issue because they can control the content on their platforms.
- 36:55Speaker 10: They can also help raise awareness about this issue. They
- 36:59Speaker 10: can fund, where's the anti-drug media campaign that we had
- 37:02Speaker 10: in the 80s and 90s, which, by the way, reduced
- 37:04Speaker 10: regular drug use then by two-thirds. We don't talk about that.
- 37:07Speaker 10: We need to have more of those campaigns. to raise
- 37:10Speaker 10: awareness about how these pills absolutely can kill. But it's
- 37:13Speaker 10: not just the pills, because a lot of people start
- 37:15Speaker 10: with earlier drugs like marijuana. And I'm worried that we
- 37:18Speaker 10: are commercializing, legalizing, normalizing drugs like marijuana in our country,
- 37:23Speaker 10: which are more potent than they've ever been, leading people
- 37:26Speaker 10: down this path. So we have really a whole of
- 37:29Speaker 10: country assessment to do in our drug policy. And we
- 37:32Speaker 10: need to start with the early access drugs like marijuana.
- 37:36Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree.
- 37:37Speaker 3: You know, I've been a proponent of cannabis for cancer patients,
- 37:41Speaker 3: for people with extreme pain, for our veterans, and I
- 37:43Speaker 3: still always will be. But when you do commercialize it,
- 37:46Speaker 3: like in states that make millions, if not billions of
- 37:49Speaker 3: dollars off it, like California, where I live, they're making
- 37:51Speaker 3: it almost cool looking like we did with cigarettes back
- 37:54Speaker 3: in the day when I was young, right?
- 37:55Speaker 1: Remember you had the.
- 37:55Speaker 3: Camel bucks and the Marlboro man, and then every 14
- 37:58Speaker 3: year old wanted to smoke.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Now every 14 year old wants to do weed. Totally
- 38:02Speaker 1: get where you're coming from, Kevin. And let me go
- 38:03Speaker 1: to you.
- 38:03Speaker 6: We're making the same mistake twice.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. And let me go to you on the
- 38:06Speaker 1: next one. You heard me mention President Trump.
- 38:09Speaker 3: Do you think his actions help to get that from
- 38:12Speaker 3: 7 in 10 to 3 to 10 by closing the
- 38:14Speaker 3: border and by getting actually China to act? Because we
- 38:17Speaker 3: know it is a fact that almost all this fentanyl
- 38:19Speaker 3: is coming in from China to the cartels in Mexico,
- 38:23Speaker 3: and then it was just pouring in for four years
- 38:25Speaker 3: through the border.
- 38:27Speaker 12: Yeah, well, President Trump has done everything possible to curb
- 38:31Speaker 12: this epidemic from closing the border, where we have zero
- 38:34Speaker 12: border crossings since June of 2025, to tariffs engaging the
- 38:39Speaker 12: Treasury Department for tariffs and sanctions on the cartels, to
- 38:44Speaker 12: the DOJ with the FBI and the DEA and just
- 38:49Speaker 12: the DHS, Border Patrol, Border Control, and Tom Homan. We've
- 38:59Speaker 12: had the ONDCP with Sarah Carter. He's engaged the Department
- 39:04Speaker 12: of Health and Human Services, the Department of Veterans Affairs,
- 39:07Speaker 12: Department of Housing and Development. I mean, I could keep
- 39:13Speaker 12: going with all the departments that he has engaged in
- 39:15Speaker 12: this fight, and it is an onslaught war that he
- 39:19Speaker 12: has waged, not to mention the Department of War with
- 39:22Speaker 12: concise strikes on Yes, cartel boats, not fishermen.
- 39:26Speaker 4: So he has done everything.
- 39:29Speaker 12: Possible closing the de minimis loophole. There's just I can
- 39:32Speaker 12: keep going on with all the things he's done. So
- 39:34Speaker 12: there is night and day where we had an administration
- 39:36Speaker 12: for four years that did nothing. And my son's year
- 39:39Speaker 12: was the deadliest year. He, you know, President Trump.
- 39:42Speaker 3: Biden.
- 39:43Speaker 12: I call him pretend Senate Biden. And our pretend border czar,
- 39:48Speaker 12: who I don't care if you call her the point
- 39:49Speaker 12: person or the person of contact, whatever you want to
- 39:53Speaker 12: call her, she was in charge of the border. She
- 39:55Speaker 12: had one job and she failed. There were no other
- 39:57Speaker 12: agencies fighting this, not to mention sanctuary cities and states
- 40:01Speaker 12: like California. We have the failure of our governor, Gavin Newsom.
- 40:05Speaker 12: And I can just keep going on about that. President
- 40:07Speaker 12: Trump came in, cleaned up house. We put Sarah Carter
- 40:10Speaker 12: in charge of the ONDCP, she's doing a fantastic job. And,
- 40:15Speaker 12: you know, she's just amazing. I know you've had former
- 40:18Speaker 12: acting DEA director, Derek Maltz on.
- 40:21Speaker 1: We love Derek.
- 40:22Speaker 12: We love Derek. These people all are just incredible fighters.
- 40:26Speaker 12: And thanks to President Trump, they all can do their
- 40:29Speaker 12: job now and clean house on this fentanyl crisis.
- 40:32Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank you, Anne. I started with you. I'll end
- 40:34Speaker 1: with Kevin.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Kevin, what do we need to do as parents, as influencers,
- 40:38Speaker 3: as people with a platform to I'm sure Ann obviously
- 40:42Speaker 3: did not want her platform, but she has one now.
- 40:44Speaker 3: I've been doing this for 30-some years. You've got your platform.
- 40:47Speaker 3: But just the regular moms, dads, grandparents, uncles, and aunts
- 40:50Speaker 3: out there, we've got to start paying attention more and
- 40:53Speaker 3: get involved. Give us some light at the end of
- 40:56Speaker 3: the tunnel so we can stop this epidemic.
- 40:59Speaker 10: Sure. So, I mean, if this tragedy teaches us one thing,
- 41:01Speaker 10: it's that every parent should have the one pill can
- 41:03Speaker 10: kill conversation with their kids. We should also remind our
- 41:08Speaker 10: young people that these are companies as well as cartels
- 41:13Speaker 10: that want to make life. They want lifelong customers, just
- 41:16Speaker 10: like the big tobacco companies want. So they are going
- 41:18Speaker 10: to make their product, whether it's marijuana or a pill
- 41:20Speaker 10: or whatever it is, Kratom, which is a huge issue.
- 41:23Speaker 10: These psychedelics we're seeing now come up. They are making
- 41:25Speaker 10: these drugs look as attractive as possible to the young
- 41:28Speaker 10: brain because your brain is developing until age 25. If
- 41:31Speaker 10: you're going to be a lifelong customer, it's because you
- 41:33Speaker 10: started when you're young. And so parents need to, first
- 41:35Speaker 10: of all, check their own substance use because some parents
- 41:38Speaker 10: are rediscovering drugs, right? And like, oh, I need this.
- 41:41Speaker 3: Oh, I've heard about the house moms getting the pills
- 41:43Speaker 3: on social media too.
- 41:44Speaker 1: It's not kids.
- 41:45Speaker 6: Absolutely. They need to check. Absolutely.
- 41:47Speaker 10: So they need to check their own model behavior and
- 41:50Speaker 10: have that conversation. Keep talking to your child because the government,
- 41:54Speaker 10: you cannot rely on the government to have the conversation.
- 41:55Speaker 6: They're not having it.
- 41:56Speaker 10: You need to have that conversation about all drugs and
- 41:59Speaker 10: how they all stunt development, hurt your chances of being
- 42:02Speaker 10: successful in life, reduce your intelligence and reduce the ability
- 42:06Speaker 10: for you to be a contributing member to society. And
- 42:09Speaker 10: that there are these companies out there that want their brain,
- 42:11Speaker 10: their brains are dollar signs. And if a 16 year
- 42:14Speaker 10: old reacts to anything, maybe they'll react to that.
- 42:16Speaker 1: There you go.
- 42:17Speaker 3: The only thing I'll push back on, this government actually
- 42:19Speaker 3: is trying to say something. President Trump is saying, don't
- 42:22Speaker 3: do drugs and actually take an action, as Ann just
- 42:25Speaker 3: pointed out. But other than that, I agree with you. Also,
- 42:28Speaker 3: don't sit around and wait on the government. What are
- 42:30Speaker 3: the scary words Reagan told us about? I'm here with
- 42:32Speaker 3: the government. I'm here to help.
- 42:33Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Don't wait on the government, folks.
- 42:35Speaker 3: Kevin, thank you so much. Check out his book. And Ann,
- 42:38Speaker 3: God bless you. And thank you for always speaking up
- 42:40Speaker 3: and remembering Weston.
- 42:41Speaker 1: Take care.
- 42:43Speaker 6: Thank you, Ann. Thank you, Jeff.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Up next.
- 42:45Speaker 3: The presidential pardon system under fire after a rapper claims
- 42:50Speaker 3: he was duped out of 600 grand and didn't get
- 42:53Speaker 3: his pardon. Well, Angela Stanton King, who was pardoned by
- 42:57Speaker 3: President Trump and knows this rapper, is going to join
- 43:00Speaker 3: us after the break to set the record straight.
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- 44:01Speaker 3: Is that George Bush's kid? The clip you just saw
- 44:04Speaker 3: there is from a recent 60 Minutes interview with two
- 44:07Speaker 3: pardon brokers who are in a little bit of hot
- 44:09Speaker 3: water right now. Their names are Jack Berkman and Jacob Wall.
- 44:13Speaker 3: And we're told they were paid $ 600, 000 to.
- 44:15Speaker 1: Help get a pardon from President Trump for a rapper
- 44:19Speaker 1: named Boozy. Badass.
- 44:23Speaker 3: That's what he goes by? Sorry, guys, I don't listen
- 44:24Speaker 3: to Boozy. I guess I'm supposed to know who this is.
- 44:26Speaker 3: My producers are, I'm sure, laughing right now. Behind the scenes,
- 44:30Speaker 3: I don't know who Boozy is.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Anyway, here's the problem. Boozy, whose real name is Torrance Hatch, there,
- 44:36Speaker 1: that's better, let's call him Mr.
- 44:37Speaker 3: Hatch, was never pardoned for his federal firearm charge after
- 44:42Speaker 3: hiring their firm last year. He received three years of
- 44:46Speaker 3: a supervised release. Well, that's not bad for a firearm charge.
- 44:49Speaker 3: 300 hours of community service and a $ 50, 000 fine with
- 44:53Speaker 3: no additional prison time.
- 44:55Speaker 1: So, what do you do? Well... He went to the
- 44:58Speaker 1: press because he was upset. Roll it. The broker mentions
- 45:02Speaker 1: Natalie Harp.
- 45:04Speaker 12: She's the executive assistant that's very close to the president
- 45:08Speaker 12: and suggests that she's going to personally hand your application
- 45:11Speaker 12: to the president.
- 45:13Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 45:14Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 45:15Speaker 13: I just thought, I mean, this is the way it's done.
- 45:18Speaker 13: I'm paying these guys, you know, and they're going to
- 45:22Speaker 13: make it happen.
- 45:24Speaker 1: Now, that's not all. The lobbyists in question have denied
- 45:28Speaker 1: any wrongdoing. Okay? As you just saw a moment ago,
- 45:33Speaker 1: they said, hey, we lobbied. You don't always get the
- 45:35Speaker 1: results you want. How is it illegal?
- 45:38Speaker 3: Boozy, though, is seeking $ 300, 000 back from them, arguing that
- 45:42Speaker 3: half of the fee was refundable if the pardon effort failed.
- 45:47Speaker 1: Here's what he told 60 Minutes about it.
- 45:49Speaker 13: I said, just return it. You didn't get my pardon.
- 45:51Speaker 13: It's a bunch of BS. And they were so cocky.
- 45:56Speaker 1: Okay, so where does that leave us?
- 45:59Speaker 3: Boosie's criminal defense attorney has submitted a separate pardon request
- 46:02Speaker 3: directed to the White House, and the dispute with the
- 46:05Speaker 3: lobbyist is now in arbitration. It's unclear where things will
- 46:08Speaker 3: go from here, but that's where our next guest enters
- 46:12Speaker 3: the picture. President Trump pardoned her back in 2020, and
- 46:17Speaker 3: she's here to tell us about the process and how
- 46:19Speaker 3: it shaped her life. Matter of fact, she's got an
- 46:21Speaker 3: article right now out about it on human events. And
- 46:25Speaker 3: we know she's got even more thoughts about what happened
- 46:27Speaker 3: to Mr.
- 46:28Speaker 1: Boozy or Hatch, let's call him.
- 46:30Speaker 3: So joining me now to weigh in on this back
- 46:33Speaker 3: and forth tit for tat, and I didn't even bring
- 46:36Speaker 3: up the pardon system under Joe Biden and how many
- 46:38Speaker 3: murderers and pedophiles and sickos they pardoned anyway. As I said,
- 46:42Speaker 3: she received a full pardon from President Trump and is
- 46:44Speaker 3: the founder of Auntie Angie's nonprofit.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Our good friend, Angela Stanton King, back on the program. Hi, Angela.
- 46:51Speaker 1: How you been, dear?
- 46:52Speaker 4: Hey, Dan. How are you?
- 46:54Speaker 14: Glad to be joining you yet once again. I see
- 46:56Speaker 14: we're in another storm always, right?
- 47:00Speaker 1: There's always something, you know. Usually, I don't know.
- 47:03Speaker 3: We have had you on for good positive news when
- 47:05Speaker 3: you opened your charity to help expecting women and stuff
- 47:07Speaker 3: like that.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Those were positive reports. It's not always bad when I
- 47:10Speaker 1: have you on. Okay. So, anyway.
- 47:14Speaker 12: Listen.
- 47:15Speaker 1: I don't know, Boozy.
- 47:16Speaker 4: This is something else. Yeah, I can tell.
- 47:19Speaker 14: And neither did Jacob and Wall or anybody else that's
- 47:21Speaker 14: pronouncing his name.
- 47:22Speaker 4: It's actually Lil Boosie. But here's the thing.
- 47:25Speaker 14: Nothing upsets me more than someone coming after this current
- 47:30Speaker 14: administration and trying to say that they were doing anything illegal.
- 47:35Speaker 14: My president, President Donald Trump, is the president of Second
- 47:38Speaker 14: Chance's Alice Johnson is one of the most honorable, genuine
- 47:42Speaker 14: people that I've ever met in my life. Here's the
- 47:45Speaker 14: situation with Lil Boosie. I'm gonna give it to you
- 47:47Speaker 14: dry and cut. In 2023, Lil Boosie, we were campaigning
- 47:52Speaker 14: for RFK. Lil Boosie made a song for us. I said, Boosie,
- 47:56Speaker 14: if Trump wins, I'm gonna try to see what I
- 47:58Speaker 14: can do to help you get a pardon. And Boosie said, okay.
- 48:03Speaker 14: Unbeknownst to me and Boosie, Trump won. So I wanted
- 48:07Speaker 14: to keep my word.
- 48:09Speaker 4: I put him on a list for a Black history event.
- 48:11Speaker 4: We went to the White House. Boosie got flagged. He
- 48:14Speaker 4: couldn't get in.
- 48:15Speaker 14: But Trump's senior advisor, Lynne Patton, set up a separate
- 48:19Speaker 14: meeting for Boosie so he wouldn't feel bad. So we
- 48:22Speaker 14: went in and we spoke with the Honorable Alice Johnson.
- 48:25Speaker 14: to see if there was even a pathway for Boosie.
- 48:28Speaker 4: And she said, I don't mind taking a look into it.
- 48:31Speaker 1: We left.
- 48:32Speaker 14: I didn't hear from Boosie again until he contacted me
- 48:35Speaker 14: months later saying, Angela, you got to help me. These
- 48:39Speaker 14: guys ripped me off. Well, here's the thing, Boosie. I
- 48:42Speaker 14: never wanted to charge you a dime. I never asked.
- 48:45Speaker 4: For a dime. You were where you needed to be.
- 48:48Speaker 14: We have to be very, very careful when it comes
- 48:51Speaker 14: to vetting people who claim that they have access. It
- 48:56Speaker 14: is absolutely 100% illegal to purchase a pardon. It is
- 49:00Speaker 14: not illegal to pay for advocacy. But Lucy, we're with you.
- 49:05Speaker 14: Someone that Trump pardoned and someone that Trump appointed overpardons.
- 49:10Speaker 14: Why he decided to leave, go around, or how he
- 49:14Speaker 14: ended up with Jacob and Jack.
- 49:16Speaker 4: Are questions that still haven't been answered. None of this happened.
- 49:20Speaker 1: To happen.
- 49:21Speaker 7: Right.
- 49:21Speaker 3: And now as far as your viewpoint, knowing the system well,
- 49:26Speaker 3: going through it and receiving your full pardon six years ago,
- 49:30Speaker 3: And I listened to the 60 Minutes interview, and I
- 49:32Speaker 3: actually know Jacob's dad very well. David Wall, he's an
- 49:34Speaker 3: attorney out in L.A., used to be a legal reporter
- 49:37Speaker 3: with me in the Palm Springs market decades ago.
- 49:40Speaker 1: Love the guy.
- 49:40Speaker 3: His dad's a great, honorable guy. He's telling me as
- 49:43Speaker 3: an attorney, they didn't do anything wrong. You can provide
- 49:46Speaker 3: services to lobby the administration to try and get a pardon.
- 49:49Speaker 3: It doesn't guarantee you're going to get it. And if
- 49:51Speaker 3: you know that going in and you pay for it,
- 49:53Speaker 3: you don't get one. You don't get to sue them later.
- 49:56Speaker 3: That's how I'm looking at it. I'm not going to
- 49:58Speaker 3: try to run cover for anything they did or didn't do.
- 50:01Speaker 3: I'm just saying on the surface here, it doesn't look like.
- 50:03Speaker 1: It was anything illegal. It was we lobbied. We didn't
- 50:07Speaker 1: get it for you. Sorry.
- 50:08Speaker 14: You know, I have to kind of agree with you
- 50:10Speaker 14: there because on 60 Minutes, they did show that one
- 50:13Speaker 14: clause in the contract that said if a pardon was
- 50:16Speaker 14: not received, that $ 300, 000 would be returned. No one is
- 50:20Speaker 14: going to put that type of clause in a contract
- 50:23Speaker 14: if they guaranteed a pardon. So this is a really
- 50:27Speaker 14: unfortunate situation for Boosie. And I think that he was
- 50:30Speaker 14: probably the most cocky one of all. And pardons, listen,
- 50:34Speaker 14: you have to have patience. I don't know anybody that
- 50:37Speaker 14: just walks into the office of the president and demands
- 50:40Speaker 14: a pardon and gets it in three days.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
- 50:43Speaker 14: You have to actually qualify and you have to show
- 50:47Speaker 14: yourself approved. So this is an unfortunate situation for Boosie,
- 50:51Speaker 14: but listen here. Don't you dare come from our president.
- 50:54Speaker 14: Don't you dare come from Alice Johnson. These are the
- 50:57Speaker 14: people that truly believe in a second chance, and I
- 51:00Speaker 14: just won't stand for anybody slandering President Trump or his
- 51:03Speaker 14: administration in this manner.
- 51:04Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, because he, again... I'll start or I'll
- 51:07Speaker 1: end where I started.
- 51:08Speaker 3: He's not out there partnering 2,000 people right before he
- 51:10Speaker 3: leaves office and a bunch of murderers and pedophiles like
- 51:13Speaker 3: the Biden regime did. I'll remind everyone of that. And yes,
- 51:17Speaker 3: who does Boosie think he is?
- 51:18Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He's not a Snoop Dogg. He's not a Dr. Dre.
- 51:21Speaker 1: He's not NWA. See, I do know rappers, dear. I
- 51:24Speaker 1: just don't know the younger ones. I'm old. I know
- 51:26Speaker 1: the old ones from the.
- 51:27Speaker 3: 80s and 90s.
- 51:28Speaker 1: Anyway, Angela, thank you, dear. Appreciate you.
- 51:31Speaker 4: Thank you, Dan. See you guys soon.
- 51:34Speaker 1: All right. Bye-bye. I can't keep them all in track.
- 51:37Speaker 3: There's too many musicians these days, and I'm old school.
- 51:40Speaker 1: I like the ones I like. I'm not open to
- 51:43Speaker 1: any new ones. But good luck, Boosie. All right.
- 51:46Speaker 3: Anyway, when we come back, we'll fill you in on
- 51:48Speaker 3: a couple of the guests that will be joining us
- 51:49Speaker 3: on tomorrow night's program.
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