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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Moser, Lombardy and Caine on demand.
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- 0:12Speaker 1: App Good Morning.
- 0:20Speaker 3: I just had mos bust in the door like Framer
- 0:24Speaker 3: and start yelling at everything. So it's gonna be one
- 0:26Speaker 3: of those VIC congrats for staying at home.
- 0:28Speaker 4: Today, and that's why I'm not there.
- 0:31Speaker 5: We haven't been in this studio in about two weeks,
- 0:34Speaker 5: almost two weeks.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I I don't like these Neanderthals.
- 0:42Speaker 5: I guess it's so it's gotta be Lindall then, because
- 0:45Speaker 5: things were kind of out of place and this has
- 0:47Speaker 5: turned the wrong way.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. See this is what
- 0:51Speaker 1: I was doing. My muff. My muff is missing. I
- 0:53Speaker 1: got a missing muff.
- 0:54Speaker 3: And he's and he's called me names. The entire morning.
- 0:57Speaker 3: I did nothing. I sat here. I barely said a word.
- 1:00Speaker 3: I said, hi, Oh, you know what.
- 1:01Speaker 2: You've been working for an hour. You've been doing your
- 1:04Speaker 2: job for an hour and you have this guy come in.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Look at his hat. What is that? It's from the
- 1:10Speaker 1: open See his hat his.
- 1:11Speaker 5: New hat from the Open Championship at the University of Oregon.
- 1:16Speaker 5: It's black and yeah, looks like a Pittsburgh Pirates hat. Nonetheless,
- 1:21Speaker 5: he's all trying to be fancy with his new British
- 1:23Speaker 5: Open Hafta league brought.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Back from from England. It's just a hat, just wearing
- 1:27Speaker 1: a hat.
- 1:28Speaker 5: But I know you, and I know your attitude and
- 1:29Speaker 5: I know how you roll, and you're doing it just
- 1:32Speaker 5: to try and be cool.
- 1:34Speaker 4: We just played how'd you play yesterday?
- 1:37Speaker 1: Bad eighty five has expected I predicted the over.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys a question because I was
- 1:46Speaker 3: listening to Tyler Plumbus yesterday and he said they had
- 1:49Speaker 3: something when he was playing with the Broncos. It was
- 1:51Speaker 3: called a Paul Pierce fine within their offensive line group.
- 1:56Speaker 3: So Paul Pierce fine applied to win. If you went
- 1:59Speaker 3: down and practice, they had to like move and shuffle
- 2:01Speaker 3: practice around you, and then you you limped off the
- 2:04Speaker 3: field only to come back the next day. That's a
- 2:07Speaker 3: Paul Pierce fine.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Can you tell people what that stems from? Paul Pierce?
- 2:11Speaker 3: When Paul Pierce was carried off a playoff game by
- 2:14Speaker 3: like four different people because allegedly.
- 2:17Speaker 1: He pooped his pants.
- 2:18Speaker 3: But but Paul Pierce said that he was very hurt
- 2:22Speaker 3: with something. I forget what he say, cramps or something
- 2:24Speaker 3: like that, but there's clearly some browning in the back
- 2:28Speaker 3: of white shorts.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Anyway, what do you think of JAK Dobbins coming back like?
- 2:32Speaker 3: Nothing happy yesterday? Like, obviously we're all happy about it,
- 2:35Speaker 3: but I just wonder it's like soft tissue injury and
- 2:37Speaker 3: now is JK Dobbins.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Here's here's I guess my question.
- 2:43Speaker 3: I have a little bit of a fear because he's
- 2:46Speaker 3: made so many promises about not getting hurt that if
- 2:49Speaker 3: JK Dobbins does get hurt, he might try and overdo
- 2:52Speaker 3: himself and that could be worse.
- 2:54Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 2:56Speaker 2: If he came back from what was believed to be
- 2:59Speaker 2: a strain or a tightness of a muscle. I listen,
- 3:05Speaker 2: I'm no doctor, but why even chance it? What are
- 3:09Speaker 2: we doing here? How can you possibly go the next day? Well,
- 3:13Speaker 2: he wasn't in any the the real team stuff. He
- 3:17Speaker 2: wasn't in the seven on seventy. I understand that, Listen.
- 3:23Speaker 2: I do like JK a lot. I like him as
- 3:27Speaker 2: a dude. I mean, I just when he talks he
- 3:30Speaker 2: kind of lights up a room. I really like this guy.
- 3:33Speaker 2: And they think he's a very good player.
- 3:36Speaker 1: But I'm with you.
- 3:37Speaker 5: I don't want him because he made this pinky promise
- 3:40Speaker 5: to have to prove everything every day. I watched romy Beans.
- 3:46Speaker 5: Did you watch romy beans video? Romy's video?
- 3:49Speaker 1: Because she was.
- 3:51Speaker 5: Filming him and then he came running up. Hey, you
- 3:53Speaker 5: always try to start rumors and all this kind of thing,
- 3:55Speaker 5: and he.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Doth protest too much. You don't have to do that.
- 4:00Speaker 1: But man, you're totally good. He's totally good. Here's what
- 4:03Speaker 1: I'm saying.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Do you guys remember years ago was his twenty eighteen
- 4:08Speaker 3: nineteen something like that, Kevin Durant had a calf injury.
- 4:13Speaker 1: He's playing for the Warriors during the playoffs.
- 4:16Speaker 3: There was that whole thing like he was kind of
- 4:18Speaker 3: medically cleared by the team doctors, but he still wasn't
- 4:21Speaker 3: playing because he didn't feel right, and people are kind
- 4:22Speaker 3: of calling him out saying, hey, man, stop being a
- 4:24Speaker 3: woos it's the playoffs.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Go play. Then what happened?
- 4:27Speaker 3: Then he tore his achilles boom shotgun blasting the calf
- 4:31Speaker 3: torn achilles done for that playoffs In the following year,
- 4:37Speaker 3: I don't want JK. Dobbins to put so much pressure
- 4:41Speaker 3: on himself for I'm not going to get hurt that
- 4:43Speaker 3: he's trying to play through an injury that could hurt
- 4:46Speaker 3: him further and then he's out for longer because he's
- 4:49Speaker 3: too important.
- 4:50Speaker 1: To the team's success.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Okay, So using that argument, and it's a valid argument
- 4:53Speaker 2: that you used a player who was told, hey, you're fine,
- 4:57Speaker 2: come back and play. Now do Peyton Watson because a
- 5:01Speaker 2: lot of people complain he didn't play in the playoffs.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Didn't hear from me, I know, but I'm just saying
- 5:06Speaker 2: that argument, Hey, man, why aren't you pushing it? Well,
- 5:09Speaker 2: did you see what happened to Kevin Durant because he's hurt?
- 5:12Speaker 3: Like, I love the conspiracy theory around Peyton Watson. That
- 5:16Speaker 3: guy didn't play because he was worried about his contract
- 5:19Speaker 3: or or hear me out he had a hamstring problem twice,
- 5:24Speaker 3: tried to come back from it once, pulled it again
- 5:27Speaker 3: and he was hurt.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Maybe that was it could be.
- 5:30Speaker 3: And then you can point to like, yeah, Aaron Gordon
- 5:33Speaker 3: in Game seven a couple of years ago against the
- 5:34Speaker 3: thunder tried to play through it and all that stuff.
- 5:37Speaker 2: But whatever, an MPG had his shoulder that he couldn't
- 5:40Speaker 2: do anything with it.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
- 5:42Speaker 3: The thing about JK is when you put so much
- 5:45Speaker 3: pressure on yourself for something that's beyond your control, you
- 5:50Speaker 3: can push yourself too far.
- 5:52Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
- 5:54Speaker 3: And look, if he's fine and he's good to go,
- 5:56Speaker 3: then I'm happy to have him back. We all are,
- 5:58Speaker 3: because I most I think every single Bronco fan thinks
- 6:01Speaker 3: the same way you do.
- 6:03Speaker 1: He's almost impossible not to like.
- 6:05Speaker 5: He's very impossible for me not to like. I really
- 6:09Speaker 5: like him as a dude. Also, I would encourage everybody
- 6:11Speaker 5: if you're not watching d max Football wrap Up every
- 6:16Speaker 5: single day, Broncos training camp wrap Up.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Coach was on again last night.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I see to watch it, go to YouTube and
- 6:24Speaker 2: watch it from last night. You go to d max
- 6:26Speaker 2: Twitter page and click on the link and watch the
- 6:28Speaker 2: whole thing.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Because vic coach said this, he has sources.
- 6:32Speaker 5: In college football and in National Football League and former
- 6:36Speaker 5: head coaches and blah blah blah said that JK Dobbins
- 6:40Speaker 5: until this point, until this summer, really never had any
- 6:43Speaker 5: sort of really structured off season regiment, like nothing that
- 6:49Speaker 5: And I'm not saying this is the reason or the
- 6:51Speaker 5: cause for anything, but that now he does, and so
- 6:56Speaker 5: I think that he's more excited and he's more confident
- 6:59Speaker 5: that he's gonna hold up and everything's gonna be okay.
- 7:02Speaker 5: And I don't know whether it's not true or not.
- 7:04Speaker 5: I'm just going by what coach said. I know guys
- 7:07Speaker 5: who have extensive off season regiments, and guess what, they
- 7:11Speaker 5: still get hurt too.
- 7:12Speaker 2: So it's it's is it six to one way? Half
- 7:15Speaker 2: does and the other does one correlate does one not?
- 7:18Speaker 5: I don't know, but I think that because he's in
- 7:20Speaker 5: that mode, he now feels confident that his body is.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Going to hold up tremendously. We have a real problem
- 7:27Speaker 1: in this town.
- 7:29Speaker 4: With you, guys.
- 7:30Speaker 1: We've got lots of real problems. What are you referring
- 7:32Speaker 1: to with.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Guys who are injured a lot? And we're putting our
- 7:35Speaker 3: hopes and dreams on these guys. Just please don't get hurt.
- 7:39Speaker 1: I mean between JK.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Dobbins and Aaron Gordon, everybody else is like, but when
- 7:43Speaker 3: they're healthy, our teams are awesome, and when they leave
- 7:48Speaker 3: with injuries, our teams aren't awesome anymore.
- 7:50Speaker 1: And it's like, did he throw Kale into that a
- 7:52Speaker 1: little bit.
- 7:53Speaker 6: He's not.
- 7:54Speaker 1: He's not hurt like those, not like that. No, not
- 7:56Speaker 1: like that.
- 7:56Speaker 5: But again, but he did get you right, he got
- 7:59Speaker 5: blown up against men, right, and you know, but yeah.
- 8:02Speaker 4: He's not.
- 8:03Speaker 3: I don't have concerns as like, is cal going to
- 8:05Speaker 3: be playing in the playoffs?
- 8:07Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't know. I don't either.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Yeah, but few things for me, yes today, I know that, Vick,
- 8:13Speaker 3: you were over when Penner was speaking.
- 8:15Speaker 1: I don't know what you thought.
- 8:16Speaker 3: The most interesting part of that was he spoke on
- 8:18Speaker 3: a number of different things.
- 8:19Speaker 2: What do you think three things? He was giving Dick
- 8:22Speaker 2: Montfort a tour of the facility. Forty percent ownership is
- 8:26Speaker 2: the Penner and Walton group in the Rockies, and he
- 8:29Speaker 2: was asked a couple of times on his intentions with
- 8:32Speaker 2: the Rockies, and he said, listen, he's there to support
- 8:34Speaker 2: the current ownership group, the majority owners, the Montfort group,
- 8:38Speaker 2: and just a baseball fan.
- 8:41Speaker 4: We'll see where that goes. But the fact that the.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Broncos are involved in the Rockies, we sometimes forget that,
- 8:47Speaker 2: right when we watch Rockies games, we forget that nearly
- 8:51Speaker 2: half of the team comes from Broncos' money. Right now, yeah,
- 8:56Speaker 2: So that's a huge force that at some point point
- 9:00Speaker 2: will play a role in how they operate.
- 9:02Speaker 4: That was number one.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Number two mentioned the stadium, hoping to get it off
- 9:07Speaker 2: the ground, hoping that twenty thirty one is still the
- 9:09Speaker 2: target date. He said, it's still a preferred site, Burnham Yard.
- 9:14Speaker 2: It's not done yet, and we've talked incessantly about why
- 9:17Speaker 2: it's not done yet.
- 9:18Speaker 4: They have the acreage, they've purchased the property.
- 9:21Speaker 2: There's still a couple hoops they are trying to jump
- 9:22Speaker 2: through with the community advocates.
- 9:24Speaker 1: I see, okay, okay, all.
- 9:26Speaker 4: Right, let me finish. Let me finish.
- 9:27Speaker 2: You get to that, let me finish. And number three
- 9:31Speaker 2: the renderings. I asked him about the renderings, when they're
- 9:33Speaker 2: gonna come out, what the stadium will look like, and
- 9:35Speaker 2: he pretty much and rightfully so admitted that it's going
- 9:40Speaker 2: to have a retractable roof. Because they love the outdoors,
- 9:44Speaker 2: they love natural turf. They're going to grow natural turf.
- 9:46Speaker 2: They love everything about Colorado outdoors. They want to see
- 9:49Speaker 2: the parachutes to the line, he used, the parachutes land
- 9:52Speaker 2: on the field. But at the same time that roof
- 9:55Speaker 2: needs to be in place, so you're gonna get one
- 9:57Speaker 2: of the coolest retractable roofs we've ever seen. Can't wait
- 10:00Speaker 2: to see the design of this sucker.
- 10:01Speaker 1: That's right.
- 10:02Speaker 5: So I want to have a contest where you you
- 10:05Speaker 5: send the parachutis out of the plane, right, and then
- 10:09Speaker 5: you start retracting the roof.
- 10:11Speaker 4: Oh they got just a small opening.
- 10:13Speaker 1: See if they can make it before then.
- 10:15Speaker 4: And if they don't, they don't.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Hey what I don't want to do, Brett. I want
- 10:21Speaker 2: to lay this groundwork right now.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Who's the guy?
- 10:23Speaker 3: Do you remember the dude that was the the parachutist
- 10:28Speaker 3: that got stuck on the scoreboard, Well, that.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Was it was that Virginia Tech last year. I think
- 10:33Speaker 1: it was Virginia. No, he's crashed into it, Yeah, crashed
- 10:35Speaker 1: into it and he was just hanging there.
- 10:37Speaker 5: Yeah, he like broke his fever and all kinds of crap. Yeah,
- 10:39Speaker 5: he went right of the that would hurt.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:43Speaker 5: I want to lay this groundwork VIC right now. The
- 10:46Speaker 5: City of Denver, community advocates or whatever you are, whomever
- 10:52Speaker 5: you are, you don't listen to this program. I can
- 10:54Speaker 5: guarantee you that. I'm sure you don't. Maybe somebody you know, No,
- 11:00Speaker 5: not even anybody you know are related to it.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Could you be so sure?
- 11:03Speaker 5: Because they don't stop screwing around. This is the preferred
- 11:11Speaker 5: side by a mile. But if this thing drags on,
- 11:15Speaker 5: if you don't think that they will put the team
- 11:18Speaker 5: in Loan Tree or someplace else, but then probably second
- 11:22Speaker 5: Loan Tree, you're frigging out of your minds. Stop screwing
- 11:27Speaker 5: this up.
- 11:29Speaker 2: It's sure that I'm sure that plea for Mark Moser
- 11:31Speaker 2: will make things happen.
- 11:32Speaker 5: No victim, I can't. I can't be. I can't be
- 11:37Speaker 5: more serious about what I'm saying. Stop jerking around and
- 11:41Speaker 5: let's build this thing. I mean, twenty thirty one is
- 11:44Speaker 5: five years away and we're still not even I mean,
- 11:49Speaker 5: they can't even push dirt or anything.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Man.
- 11:52Speaker 2: This is really lame, man, this is really it's just
- 11:55Speaker 2: it's frustrating.
- 11:56Speaker 5: To me because it doesn't have to be like this.
- 11:58Speaker 5: They've got their own breadth. They're going to improve everything
- 12:01Speaker 5: down there, and you're what is holding this up the
- 12:05Speaker 5: city of Denver. I don't If you want it to
- 12:08Speaker 5: stay in Denver, then I would say, get on the
- 12:11Speaker 5: asses of your little community advocates and let's get this
- 12:14Speaker 5: thing done.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Get them out of the picture. Well, I would say,
- 12:18Speaker 1: you know, one mayor.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Governor, city council, whomever it takes, whomever it takes.
- 12:26Speaker 3: About the retractable roof. Here's what's great about his answer,
- 12:30Speaker 3: and here's what he said. If you guys missed it,
- 12:32Speaker 3: go ahead.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big part of it.
- 12:36Speaker 7: Two things that Carrie and I were really focused on is,
- 12:40Speaker 7: you know, we wanted well three things. One, we want
- 12:42Speaker 7: to be able to enjoy the outdoor Colorado weather. Two,
- 12:45Speaker 7: we want to be able to grow grass. And then three,
- 12:47Speaker 7: as we were thinking about or retractable roof, we want
- 12:50Speaker 7: the skydivers to be able to land.
- 12:53Speaker 3: I just think that last part is the funniest, funniest
- 12:57Speaker 3: thing of any of them.
- 12:58Speaker 1: It's like that's part of the discussion.
- 13:00Speaker 3: And when he said two things, he was well three
- 13:04Speaker 3: was the skydivers the well three or was it growing
- 13:06Speaker 3: grass the well three?
- 13:08Speaker 1: No.
- 13:08Speaker 4: I think they've.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Always been a proponent of the national turf, in fact
- 13:10Speaker 2: that they're on the leading courts, leading edge of that.
- 13:12Speaker 2: They're the ones that replace the turf midway through the season.
- 13:15Speaker 2: You know, the Denver Broncos did not skip steps when
- 13:18Speaker 2: it comes to that, and the entire League is under
- 13:21Speaker 2: notice right now because the World Cup stadiums where they
- 13:25Speaker 2: had grass there and they played on grass in the
- 13:29Speaker 2: middle ends.
- 13:30Speaker 3: It's exactly what I wanted to say, is first of all,
- 13:32Speaker 3: the retractable roof and you know, enjoying the weather and
- 13:36Speaker 3: having the views of Colorado still is like, that's a
- 13:38Speaker 3: fan thing.
- 13:39Speaker 1: That's what we love, right.
- 13:41Speaker 3: You don't want to be inside when it's a beautiful
- 13:43Speaker 3: seventy five degreen night, you know, early in the season, So.
- 13:46Speaker 1: That's great for us.
- 13:48Speaker 3: The second part might be the most important, certainly to
- 13:51Speaker 3: the players, which is players want to play on grass,
- 13:54Speaker 3: not on turf. And I was just gonna mention how
- 13:57Speaker 3: many different players were like, oh, so the World Cup
- 14:01Speaker 3: comes to town, you can take out the turf and
- 14:03Speaker 3: put in grass, But when we want to play on it,
- 14:05Speaker 3: you can't.
- 14:06Speaker 1: That's a bad look.
- 14:07Speaker 3: And the Penners have always been at the forefront of
- 14:12Speaker 3: making sure that they have the exact type of feel
- 14:15Speaker 3: underneath the cleats of their players that their players want,
- 14:18Speaker 3: which is great. I just think the skydivers are hilarious
- 14:22Speaker 3: that that's part of the discussion. Well, I gotta be honest,
- 14:26Speaker 3: a roof would be a lot easier, But how you're
- 14:29Speaker 3: gonna fly through it.
- 14:31Speaker 2: It's just it's so funny to me that I still
- 14:34Speaker 2: like your idea. As the roof is closing, the skydivers
- 14:37Speaker 2: emerge from the sky and they've got to beat the clock.
- 14:42Speaker 1: It's like mission impossible, sliding under the door.
- 14:45Speaker 5: I think I think it would be totally bitching, I
- 14:47Speaker 5: said d mak Vic. If you recall a couple of
- 14:51Speaker 5: months ago he was on this, he was talking on
- 14:52Speaker 5: the show and I had to call in about these
- 14:55Speaker 5: bat these wingsuit guys.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Oh those guys are nuts.
- 14:58Speaker 5: Yeah, and every wingsuit guy, Vic dies Bick does google
- 15:06Speaker 5: wingsuit deaths like Wikipedia, and there's like one hundred of
- 15:10Speaker 5: starting with the first wingsuit guy. He eventually killed himself
- 15:14Speaker 5: all the way to the newest guy. Oh yeah, he
- 15:16Speaker 5: was doing one hundred and eighty six miles per hour,
- 15:18Speaker 5: tried to go through this crevice.
- 15:19Speaker 1: And killed himself.
- 15:22Speaker 3: Hey wait a minute, wait a minute. What CDEs Benz Stadium.
- 15:26Speaker 3: They have the retractable roof. There's there's opens like a like.
- 15:29Speaker 4: A circle eye.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Uh, there's takes eight minutes to open or close. So
- 15:36Speaker 3: do you go from open to close? It takes eight minutes. Well,
- 15:38Speaker 3: typically you you put eight minutes on the jumbo tree.
- 15:41Speaker 4: Exactly, and you say, let's go on.
- 15:44Speaker 3: The plane is now at whatever cruising altitude it has
- 15:47Speaker 3: to be five thousand feet, but they typically open right
- 15:50Speaker 3: away so they can control wherever they're going. And you
- 15:54Speaker 3: just see that roof closing and that guy's circling in
- 15:58Speaker 3: circle and you're like, come up, come.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Back, dun dund.
- 16:05Speaker 5: That would be awesome, dude, I mean, that was the
- 16:08Speaker 5: show or you know what, man? And the reason I
- 16:11Speaker 5: say that, I said article the.
- 16:13Speaker 3: D back stadium is only four and a half minutes.
- 16:16Speaker 3: You gotta get on your horse. I mean you better, yeah,
- 16:18Speaker 3: you better. You better do something.
- 16:20Speaker 5: Halo halo, late altitude you know, yeah, late altitude opening.
- 16:28Speaker 5: I sent d this article The youngest guy or the
- 16:32Speaker 5: fastest guy to ever climb El Capitan at Yosemody just
- 16:38Speaker 5: fell and died, and I'm like, dudes, I know it's
- 16:41Speaker 5: probably I know.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Look, he fell off the face of captain. He fell
- 16:45Speaker 1: off the face of something.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Okay, you know that Alex Hanald guy that just climbs
- 16:50Speaker 3: like skyscrapers.
- 16:53Speaker 1: They are, yeah, he is.
- 16:55Speaker 3: They asked him though, like aren't you worried about dying,
- 16:57Speaker 3: and he's like, no, yeah, if I die doing it,
- 17:01Speaker 3: that I die.
- 17:01Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, Well, these guys are guaranteed death, especially
- 17:06Speaker 5: the wingsuit clowns. So maybe if we had, like so far,
- 17:11Speaker 5: the wingsuit guy could come in one side and fly
- 17:13Speaker 5: out the other kind of thing or fly I'm just
- 17:16Speaker 5: trying to figure some new stuff.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Man, how do you buy life insurance if you are
- 17:20Speaker 2: a wingsuit guy?
- 17:22Speaker 1: You don't you leave your family family penniless with a
- 17:27Speaker 1: broken up wingsuit.
- 17:27Speaker 3: Wait, isn't that the whole premise to that Heartbreak Kid
- 17:30Speaker 3: movie with Ben Stiller, That he's the the insurance agent
- 17:34Speaker 3: and he's got this billionaire but he likes to like
- 17:36Speaker 3: base jump and do crazy stuff all the time.
- 17:38Speaker 4: I do remember that movie.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Isn't that the premise to the movie. So his whole
- 17:42Speaker 1: living is made off one guy, so by life.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Insurance, imagine Richard Branson, but all he does is base
- 17:47Speaker 3: jumps and and run along came came Polly.
- 17:53Speaker 2: That was yeah, yeah, yeah, so his job. You're exactly right,
- 17:56Speaker 2: this Australian wild man. He couldn't insure because he was
- 18:01Speaker 2: doing wild stuff.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Anyway, What is it? What she says, yeah, fellas, my
- 18:09Speaker 1: kids seeing someone dies exactly what I want to deal
- 18:11Speaker 1: with on a Sunday afternoon.
- 18:13Speaker 5: Well you know, but but let's kick the game winning
- 18:15Speaker 5: field goal on. You know.
- 18:18Speaker 4: It's funny.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Life always goes back to it's a circle. I mean,
- 18:23Speaker 2: we opened sport with the coliseum and lions eating humans.
- 18:27Speaker 2: Eventually we'll get back.
- 18:28Speaker 4: To that life.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Just think if the Romans came to us today and
- 18:36Speaker 3: they're like, what's the halftime show?
- 18:37Speaker 1: You guys gonna find a tiger. It's like, no, it's
- 18:39Speaker 1: a it's a dog catching a frisbee. It's like, what
- 18:41Speaker 1: do you mean? Let me trying to kill the I
- 18:46Speaker 1: want I want to Caesar.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Caesar comes back, says, so, wait, so you got these
- 18:51Speaker 2: sheep that kids ride.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Nobody dies.
- 18:55Speaker 5: I tell Caesar, Caesar, hang on a second. Okay, yeah,
- 18:58Speaker 5: we've got the mutton busting. Okay, but we got a
- 19:01Speaker 5: wingsuit guy who's gonna endo like a mother about at halftime.
- 19:04Speaker 5: All right, so just hang tough till halftime.
- 19:07Speaker 4: Out. The way you throw the.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Frisbee the dog jumps and catches it is that like
- 19:11Speaker 3: you shoot. It is like skeet shooting. No, no, no, it
- 19:13Speaker 3: just catches the frisbee and he runs away.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Yeah, so after the sheep are ridden by the kids,
- 19:17Speaker 2: then a tiger gets them.
- 19:18Speaker 1: No, no, they just go back to their pen. Jesus gone.
- 19:21Speaker 3: They probably see Ralphie running before see you get me? Like,
- 19:25Speaker 3: so somebody trying to kill that thing?
- 19:27Speaker 1: No, no, just run away. So the buffalo tramples like
- 19:30Speaker 1: eight people and they die. No, no, nobody dies. So nobody.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Well, you may lose a couple of hats from the
- 19:36Speaker 2: handlers when they're running it.
- 19:37Speaker 1: That's about it.
- 19:38Speaker 3: You know what I'd do, I'd be like Caesar, sit
- 19:39Speaker 3: down on my couch for a second. Let me watch Jackass.
- 19:41Speaker 3: This is what you want to watch, right, Johnny Knoxville,
- 19:44Speaker 3: He's you kind of got uh three oh three five
- 19:47Speaker 3: nine two five back?
- 19:48Speaker 1: After this?
- 19:51Speaker 3: I just can't I can't get this out of my head.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Can't stop thinking about Caesar watching Red Panditary half and
- 20:01Speaker 3: she's being confused on why that's entertaining.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Like, Jesus God, what did we become? You guys? She's
- 20:08Speaker 1: throwing she's throwing poles on her head. How do we
- 20:12Speaker 1: do it? You guy's not light a fire underneath like
- 20:15Speaker 1: what Caesar?
- 20:18Speaker 2: Caesar comes back and watches watches a modern kids field day.
- 20:22Speaker 2: He goes to field day and they're shoveling spoons with marbles,
- 20:26Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, is there a pit of what?
- 20:29Speaker 1: Did they fall into a pit somewhere this?
- 20:31Speaker 6: But it happens Red pandas by far the funniest because
- 20:36Speaker 6: if somebody doesn't know who Red Pand is, it's hard
- 20:38Speaker 6: enough to explain why it's an entertaining halftime show.
- 20:41Speaker 1: It's like, no, she's on a big unicycle and she kicks.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Both Caesar Caesar, Caesar, Caesar, I got you there, listen,
- 20:48Speaker 2: and it's just like, why do you guys find this entertaining?
- 20:51Speaker 2: There's no steaks, Caesar, I got you though. She did
- 20:55Speaker 2: break her femur about two years ago.
- 20:59Speaker 4: Listen.
- 20:59Speaker 2: We got this guy and he's playing this game called
- 21:02Speaker 2: Simon says, and he gets a bunch of people down on.
- 21:05Speaker 1: The court and he fools them.
- 21:07Speaker 4: So what happened if they get fooled?
- 21:08Speaker 1: Did they die? No? Nobody dies?
- 21:10Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how about fill the cup with fue.
- 21:16Speaker 1: You really? Oh my god? Okay, I'm sorry. Sorry. We
- 21:20Speaker 1: were talking Broncos football and I'm sorry. For sure, one
- 21:23Speaker 1: thing's for sure they're killing that O's guy.
- 21:26Speaker 3: He does one of those mentalist tricks and he's like, yees, yeah,
- 21:28Speaker 3: that that which is right.
- 21:29Speaker 2: So someone has to come up with this skit. Caesar
- 21:32Speaker 2: comes back to modern sport that that's just tremendous, and.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Watch he watches the halftime show. It's all he watches
- 21:38Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't get it.
- 21:40Speaker 5: If Nate Bargatzi is back on on SNL as Caesar,
- 21:46Speaker 5: I think he would absolutely kill it.
- 21:48Speaker 3: Hey, you guys remember when the Seahawks sold from his
- 21:50Speaker 3: ten million dollars and we're like, dude, how valuable these
- 21:53Speaker 3: franchise is going to get? According to Sportico, the Dallas
- 21:59Speaker 3: Cowboy are valued at fifteen and a half billion.
- 22:02Speaker 4: Well that stadiums included.
- 22:05Speaker 1: The Rams are twelve point seven, yeah, Giants at twelve,
- 22:08Speaker 1: Patriots at ten point four, and the Jets at ten
- 22:10Speaker 1: point three.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Five.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Those are the new values of these teams.
- 22:14Speaker 4: Why are the Jets so valuable?
- 22:17Speaker 1: New York.
- 22:19Speaker 5: It's a Jets Okay, wait so that you're telling me
- 22:22Speaker 5: the Jets are more valuable than the Giants.
- 22:25Speaker 2: No, the Giants were third. Oh I'm sorry, I guess
- 22:27Speaker 2: that the Giants third, right, through my ear.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Okay, but it's funny use the term value.
- 22:36Speaker 3: And I was thinking about this when it comes to
- 22:38Speaker 3: the NBA schedule release. So they have their big games
- 22:41Speaker 3: that they've already released, right, does.
- 22:42Speaker 1: The Nuggets schedule come out today? VIC, Thursday, Thursday?
- 22:46Speaker 4: What's Thursday tomorrow? Tomorrow?
- 22:47Speaker 3: Yes, So they release Opening Night and Christmas Day in
- 22:52Speaker 3: the big games over the year and on that list.
- 22:56Speaker 3: You know, Lebron still feels like he is the marque
- 23:00Speaker 3: of the league. That's how they're doing business. They waited
- 23:03Speaker 3: for him to choose a team first. Then when he
- 23:04Speaker 3: chose it, they release a schedule Opening Night, it's Lebron
- 23:08Speaker 3: and the Sixers versus the defending champions, Christmas Days going
- 23:12Speaker 3: back to LA like they're doing all of this surrounding him.
- 23:15Speaker 3: But Vick, you did mention something that I think is interesting,
- 23:18Speaker 3: which is the Nuggets are also playing on Christmas Night
- 23:21Speaker 3: and they're playing against Golden State.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Golden State sucks. They're terrible.
- 23:29Speaker 3: They haven't been outside of a play in spot since
- 23:32Speaker 3: twenty twenty three or twenty four, somewhere around there. Their
- 23:35Speaker 3: team's going nowhere. They're not better, they're old. And the
- 23:40Speaker 3: only appeal that they have is Steph Curry. But here's
- 23:42Speaker 3: my question. The NBA still feels like they're planning things
- 23:47Speaker 3: around Steph Curry and around Lebron James.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Shouldn't they be moving on?
- 23:55Speaker 3: I guess the Lebron thing makes some sense because Philly
- 23:58Speaker 3: is supposed to be a championship contender.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Warriors are not.
- 24:01Speaker 4: They can't move on because he's their bread and butter.
- 24:04Speaker 4: I would stay.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Steph Curry's worth as much as the franchise itself.
- 24:08Speaker 4: Right now. He is the attraction. He's the main attraction.
- 24:10Speaker 2: He's what fills the seats. He's the reason they move
- 24:13Speaker 2: from Oakland to San Francisco. He's the reason that arena
- 24:17Speaker 2: is one of the most expensive arenas in sports.
- 24:20Speaker 4: He is the reason.
- 24:21Speaker 1: And once he walks, good luck. So they're trying to
- 24:25Speaker 1: squeeze every everything can as much as they can.
- 24:29Speaker 4: He's the guy.
- 24:30Speaker 2: He's the greatest shoot who ever lived, well, no question,
- 24:33Speaker 2: and he's still playing basketball.
- 24:35Speaker 1: But he's thirty eight years old, isn't he? How old
- 24:39Speaker 1: is Steph Curry now? Thirty eight? Yeah, he's got to
- 24:43Speaker 1: be thirty eight. Thirty eight. Boom nailed it.
- 24:50Speaker 5: He'll be thirty nine in March how long can Steph
- 24:52Speaker 5: Curry play? Because Steph Curry see what's interesting?
- 24:56Speaker 1: Card? Yeah, he realizes, Vic. Sometimes he's in thirty eight
- 25:01Speaker 1: most you had, it's twenty seven points a game. Last Yeah,
- 25:04Speaker 1: I know. When does it go? Though? When does it?
- 25:07Speaker 1: Maybe it doesn't go. Maybe maybe he's one of.
- 25:09Speaker 2: These guys who the legs I worry about for jump shooters, Vic,
- 25:14Speaker 2: it's the legs.
- 25:15Speaker 1: It's not the stroke, it's the legs.
- 25:18Speaker 5: Well, he's if you can't get if you can't elevate
- 25:21Speaker 5: the properly, your shot is going to start to dissipate.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Think about this.
- 25:27Speaker 3: It's also the way that he gets his threes, Like, yeah,
- 25:29Speaker 3: you can step into a three and knock it down.
- 25:31Speaker 3: He could probably do that until he's fifty. He just
- 25:33Speaker 3: steps into a three wide open vam. He'll he'll make
- 25:36Speaker 3: that every single time. But it's those threes where he does,
- 25:39Speaker 3: like the in and out moves where he's doing like,
- 25:42Speaker 3: can you do that when you're forty still?
- 25:44Speaker 1: Can you still weave that way when you're forty? I
- 25:47Speaker 1: don't know.
- 25:49Speaker 5: But the league, the NBA Brett for now over forty years,
- 25:54Speaker 5: has been a league that markets players, sure visual players.
- 26:01Speaker 5: That's why you've got little Johnny in a Highland's ranch.
- 26:05Speaker 5: I'm a Steph Curry fan, not a Nuggets fan, right,
- 26:10Speaker 5: just a Steph Curry fan. So mom gets him a
- 26:12Speaker 5: little Steph Curry jersey for Christmas, and you know.
- 26:15Speaker 1: The hold on yards. So you know what's funny?
- 26:18Speaker 4: Smosh and stop the show.
- 26:21Speaker 2: I like to utilize the text line to read pertinent
- 26:25Speaker 2: texts and yell at textures when I have the opportunity.
- 26:29Speaker 2: You know what I'm getting tired of reading on this
- 26:30Speaker 2: text line is people just reaching out to you for
- 26:34Speaker 2: cameos and using our show in our text line to
- 26:38Speaker 2: reach you for these cameo videos.
- 26:42Speaker 4: At what point will you just keep that stuff to yourself.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Because every other text is, hey, can we get that
- 26:49Speaker 2: video by four o'clock today?
- 26:55Speaker 4: Knock it off, Moser.
- 26:57Speaker 1: We aren't your marketing arm. Yes, this is this radio.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Is it your ability to go make side money on cameo?
- 27:05Speaker 5: It's one guy, specifically, Ben, and I screwed up because
- 27:08Speaker 5: I missed his brother's birthday.
- 27:10Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't even on the camera. What you
- 27:12Speaker 1: just said?
- 27:13Speaker 3: Yeah, so now you're using our show as an apology
- 27:17Speaker 3: for not doing cam well, nobody.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Would know about it if jerk Face didn't bring it up.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Uh, every other text is about you doing a cameo
- 27:25Speaker 2: for somebody.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Vic you know who this is. Do you remember the
- 27:28Speaker 1: guys that came in and brought us that one particular putter? Yes,
- 27:31Speaker 1: where's that putter? It's a good question.
- 27:33Speaker 4: It's at station somewhere, isn't it.
- 27:36Speaker 2: You remember the putter I'm talking about. No, I don't, Yeah,
- 27:38Speaker 2: you do, Yes, you do the special one, the special putter.
- 27:44Speaker 2: I'm drawing a blank. I have no idea had a
- 27:45Speaker 2: unique shape.
- 27:47Speaker 1: I don't think I saw this. Oh we were you
- 27:49Speaker 1: off that day?
- 27:49Speaker 3: I don't think I saw it. Oh, I don't know
- 27:52Speaker 3: what you guys are talking about. You don't need to
- 27:54Speaker 3: go get it now. You don't need to do it now. Oh,
- 27:58Speaker 3: hold on second, going to get it might cause the
- 28:02Speaker 3: if I figured, I figured that's what it was. Anyway, Well,
- 28:11Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.
- 28:13Speaker 1: I'm my brain. You absolutely fried my brain. I don't
- 28:16Speaker 1: know what to say to me.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Neither this texture says all I see now while you
- 28:20Speaker 2: guys are talking, is Joaquin Phoenix sitting in the stands.
- 28:23Speaker 1: It's forteen events giving the thumbs down. Oh, wait, no,
- 28:30Speaker 1: I remember.
- 28:30Speaker 3: I remember because this was so funny to me speaking
- 28:34Speaker 3: of Lebron and the Sixers. So if you look at
- 28:38Speaker 3: that roster on paper, that's like a super team.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Right.
- 28:40Speaker 3: It's hard to even build a starting five better than
- 28:44Speaker 3: what they have of all stars, all NBA players, all
- 28:47Speaker 3: of it.
- 28:48Speaker 4: Right.
- 28:50Speaker 3: And Kevin Durant said the seventy six Ers roster was
- 28:53Speaker 3: better than the Warriors rosters that he was on, And
- 28:58Speaker 3: all I could do was laugh because it proves something
- 29:02Speaker 3: I've long thought. Kevin Durant has no idea what fundamentally
- 29:07Speaker 3: makes a basketball team.
- 29:09Speaker 1: He just history.
- 29:10Speaker 3: If you just put things together of good players, and
- 29:13Speaker 3: that's you're guaranteed to win.
- 29:14Speaker 1: You know.
- 29:15Speaker 3: He's like, what do you mean me and Kyrie and
- 29:17Speaker 3: Harden won't work? What do you mean me and Booker
- 29:20Speaker 3: and Bradley Beal won't work? Yeah, it's like, you need
- 29:23Speaker 3: to build a team, dude, not just a couple of guys.
- 29:26Speaker 2: I know, But I will say this, the amount of
- 29:29Speaker 2: I mean just pure talent that exists on the Philadelphia roster.
- 29:35Speaker 2: I'm talking about generational talent. Okay, It's it's ridiculous. Now
- 29:42Speaker 2: we've seen this story before. Building great talent doesn't mean
- 29:47Speaker 2: you build a great team.
- 29:48Speaker 4: You're exactly right.
- 29:49Speaker 2: But this year, this team, if they can stay healthy,
- 29:53Speaker 2: they're going to win the East. If they can stay healthy,
- 29:56Speaker 2: that's a big if. But if Embiid can play, if
- 30:00Speaker 2: Lebron can play, if Jalen Brown can play, tyres, are
- 30:03Speaker 2: you kidding me?
- 30:04Speaker 1: With that roster?
- 30:05Speaker 3: The tough play the tough thing though, Like if you
- 30:07Speaker 3: remember when Bosh and Wade and Lebron got together in Miami,
- 30:12Speaker 3: it took him minute for that thing to get rolling.
- 30:14Speaker 2: They won games, but they were also younger, true younger.
- 30:18Speaker 2: They were much younger through the core of this Philly team.
- 30:22Speaker 1: I just think it's it's not as easy.
- 30:24Speaker 3: It's not in a game of NBA two K where
- 30:26Speaker 3: you're just like, if I put all this talent together,
- 30:28Speaker 3: then my team will never lose.
- 30:29Speaker 1: It's there's a lot more that goes into it.
- 30:32Speaker 3: And if I just asked the question of it's you're
- 30:37Speaker 3: down one with five seconds left, who's shooting?
- 30:44Speaker 4: Is it John?
- 30:45Speaker 6: Is it?
- 30:46Speaker 1: Is it Max? Is it Lebron? Is it Embiid?
- 30:50Speaker 5: It's not embiid unless you force it, well, unless you
- 30:55Speaker 5: force it inside.
- 30:57Speaker 1: The Nuggets do that with joker. No, not not on
- 31:01Speaker 1: these final plays. They don't.
- 31:02Speaker 5: They'll throw it to him on the perimeter and he'll
- 31:04Speaker 5: turn around and knock it over edwards or whatever.
- 31:07Speaker 1: But there's there's a big highlight pack.
- 31:09Speaker 3: If I switch hitting game winning shots inside the pack,
- 31:11Speaker 3: I know, I agreed, But you're.
- 31:13Speaker 5: Talking about an inbound play and you try to force
- 31:15Speaker 5: it in and they're ready for that, and they just
- 31:17Speaker 5: want you to shoot from the outside.
- 31:18Speaker 1: I dig what.
- 31:19Speaker 3: Then there's there's a secondary conversation of who takes the shot.
- 31:22Speaker 3: Does anybody get mad if that guy misses the shot
- 31:25Speaker 3: because the other guy thinks I would have made the shot.
- 31:27Speaker 1: Well, I hope so, because I don't want it to work.
- 31:29Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know. I don't know why they're
- 31:33Speaker 5: not in the West. Why do I want the Philly
- 31:36Speaker 5: experiment to go so poorly?
- 31:38Speaker 2: Because you're you're tired of teams being stacked, You're tired
- 31:41Speaker 2: of Lebron.
- 31:41Speaker 1: I suppose I am.
- 31:42Speaker 4: Tearing this whole thing.
- 31:44Speaker 2: And it's happened time and time again. I talked to
- 31:48Speaker 2: a a former player who played recently is out of
- 31:53Speaker 2: the league now, and a lot of the issues that
- 31:55Speaker 2: are taking place. It's so funny. It goes back to Lebron.
- 31:59Speaker 2: It goes back to his mode, his his ideas, the team, stacking,
- 32:05Speaker 2: the ring, chasing, all this stuff.
- 32:08Speaker 4: I mean, it really does.
- 32:09Speaker 2: And when people have the argument of MJ versus Lebron,
- 32:13Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessarily a player versus player argument.
- 32:16Speaker 2: It's an approach argument. It's like, what's your approach to competition?
- 32:21Speaker 2: Is your approach? I'm just gonna play with one team
- 32:23Speaker 2: and win as much as I can, and great if
- 32:26Speaker 2: somebody joins me, great, Or is it I'm gonna jump
- 32:29Speaker 2: around find a team, but put together the best team.
- 32:33Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah right, yeah
- 32:36Speaker 2: that's and if you're that guy, great, I'm not that guy.
- 32:43Speaker 4: I always go back to this.
- 32:45Speaker 2: I used to play pick up at the Golden Rec
- 32:47Speaker 2: Center on Saturday mornings, and it drove me crazy when
- 32:53Speaker 2: people would stack their teams like they would wait around.
- 32:56Speaker 2: And that was when you know, you you brought your
- 32:58Speaker 2: own team to the gym, teams are just stacked and
- 33:01Speaker 2: and I'm like, what do you gain out of this?
- 33:03Speaker 2: What do you gain out of coming on to the
- 33:05Speaker 2: court with the best players and you win and win
- 33:08Speaker 2: and win. I mean when you win, get what what
- 33:10Speaker 2: do you feel? What comes to your heart after you win?
- 33:13Speaker 1: Of course you won. You have the best players. Isn't
- 33:16Speaker 1: it better when you win because you outplayed somebody? Do
- 33:20Speaker 1: you remember the well, of course we just talked about it.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Let let a white boy. Let the white boy get
- 33:25Speaker 1: a tell the story.
- 33:25Speaker 3: Yes, So on my team, they tried not to do
- 33:30Speaker 3: that because there was two guys who played college basketball
- 33:33Speaker 3: that were playing on the team that I was playing on.
- 33:36Speaker 1: And it's why, despite me.
- 33:37Speaker 3: Doing nothing, that's why they put you on the team.
- 33:39Speaker 3: I think it was like, we need one more guy.
- 33:42Speaker 3: He'll definitely balance the scales a little bit.
- 33:44Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the You're the scale balancer, is what you are.
- 33:47Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now. Vic watching these guys in
- 33:50Speaker 3: a pickup game, dunking like it was a dunk contest
- 33:55Speaker 3: mid game, Why do you guys, why does the other
- 33:58Speaker 3: team even want to play?
- 33:59Speaker 1: It didn't even look fun.
- 34:00Speaker 3: It wasn't even fun for I was on the team,
- 34:02Speaker 3: and I was like, this isn't even this isn't fun.
- 34:04Speaker 1: This is like we're playing third graders. It's not fair.
- 34:07Speaker 5: Hey, hear me up, intermission, Caesar, here's what we got
- 34:12Speaker 5: you got these kids. They are gonna skate around these little
- 34:16Speaker 5: obstacles in a race. Oh okay, so they're gonna dodge arrows?
- 34:21Speaker 1: No, no, no, they're just gonna wait.
- 34:23Speaker 5: Wait, so we're gonna throw flaming jars of of yeah, of.
- 34:30Speaker 1: You know things at them? Right? No, no, they're just
- 34:33Speaker 1: gonna skate and race.
- 34:36Speaker 2: All right, Caesar, listen, we've got these humans dressed up
- 34:39Speaker 2: in these costumes.
- 34:40Speaker 4: We call them mascots. They're gonna run around on the field.
- 34:44Speaker 4: So what do you do with them?
- 34:45Speaker 1: Are they just.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Gonna run around and like do fun things and everyone's
- 34:48Speaker 2: gonna react.
- 34:49Speaker 1: So do you kill them? So an elephant?
- 34:54Speaker 5: An elephant comes out and stomps them? Right, no, no,
- 34:57Speaker 5: they just they just high five the kids.
- 35:00Speaker 3: I swear to god, Caesar's number one moment for a
- 35:04Speaker 3: mascot would be the limp lifeless body of Rocky.
- 35:10Speaker 1: My god, it's exactly like. No, this is some matatement.
- 35:15Speaker 1: This is what I like to dude. Oh, how much
- 35:20Speaker 1: do you have any time?
- 35:21Speaker 5: When when Carolina introduced Stormy the Pig, their mascot Stormy
- 35:26Speaker 5: the Pig the Carolina Hurricanes, they put him in his
- 35:29Speaker 5: zamboni but to have the when the zamboni opened, they
- 35:33Speaker 5: were gonna have all the smoke and all that kind
- 35:34Speaker 5: of stuff come out, and he's gonna emerge.
- 35:38Speaker 2: They put like this dry ice and stuff.
- 35:40Speaker 1: He is phixiated on the fumes. Oh my god, there's Rocky.
- 35:45Speaker 3: Caesar's like, yeah, yeah, you guys got one night.
- 35:50Speaker 1: So dude, there Carolina to go.
- 35:52Speaker 5: And here's Stormy, right and they opened the zamboni and
- 35:56Speaker 5: he's like he's convulsive.
- 35:58Speaker 1: I mean he's he's.
- 35:59Speaker 5: Literally having a seizure inside the zamboni because he was
- 36:03Speaker 5: in a hilly All those Peter love that. Oh not
- 36:06Speaker 5: the real pig, the guy in the mascot, the dude.
- 36:08Speaker 5: Oh oh, like a dude, like a human being inside.
- 36:13Speaker 1: The pig costume.
- 36:14Speaker 8: And Caesar's like, yes, entertain, okay, alright, uh three oh three,
- 36:24Speaker 8: five oh four oh nine, two five back after this,
- 36:26Speaker 8: all right?
- 36:26Speaker 1: So uh I get.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Reading this article. It's from Jason Lockin fora and has
- 36:35Speaker 3: to do with the Chiefs. And I've long had this
- 36:39Speaker 3: theory that no matter what the Chiefs have done, whether
- 36:41Speaker 3: they were the team that was thrown up fifty touchdown
- 36:45Speaker 3: passes a few years back, or they're the team that
- 36:48Speaker 3: won fifteen games off of really good defense and timely
- 36:52Speaker 3: playmaking on offense.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Just from a couple of years.
- 36:54Speaker 3: Ago, they've been able to morph in sort of change
- 37:00Speaker 3: to just find a winning formula.
- 37:03Speaker 1: But I've long thought.
- 37:04Speaker 3: That the days of the prolific Chiefs offense that tears
- 37:08Speaker 3: you to pieces and puts up thirty five points a
- 37:10Speaker 3: night feel like they're.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Gone for one reason.
- 37:14Speaker 3: And it's been the mainstay of that offense. The main
- 37:18Speaker 3: thrust of it has always been the connection between Mahomes
- 37:21Speaker 3: and Travis Kelsey and Travis Kelcey's just old now he's
- 37:25Speaker 3: not the same. Jason lot kin Forest said, Kelsey is done.
- 37:30Speaker 3: When NFL Advanced scout told me, that's over what you
- 37:33Speaker 3: saw from last year. That's what he is now. And
- 37:37Speaker 3: here's what he's talking about. You know how they have
- 37:40Speaker 3: those numbers. What's your passer rating when targeted? When this
- 37:43Speaker 3: guy is targeted? Did you know that Travis Kelcey was
- 37:47Speaker 3: thirty third among tight ends last year in passer ratings
- 37:51Speaker 3: when targeted thirty third. He's still got catches, still yards,
- 37:57Speaker 3: but he is much slower. And look, he's like what
- 38:01Speaker 3: thirty seven, thirty eight years old, like of course.
- 38:04Speaker 1: But all he's saying is he's thirty six.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Whatever, thirty six, he's he was the thing that differentiated
- 38:13Speaker 3: that offense. The Chiefs offense was still awesome even when
- 38:16Speaker 3: tyreek Kill left because Travis Kelce.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Was there in the same way that.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Named the great wideouts that Tom Brady had in New England.
- 38:24Speaker 3: He had good ones, he had Edelman and Amondola and
- 38:27Speaker 3: guys in Moss for a couple of years, but he
- 38:30Speaker 3: was Dronk drunk was the guy. That's the one that
- 38:33Speaker 3: changed everything. And that's why I think their offense it's
- 38:36Speaker 3: just never going to get to that level again because
- 38:38Speaker 3: Kelsey can't.
- 38:40Speaker 1: It's a big thing. He has thirteen touchdowns of the
- 38:42Speaker 1: last three years. He had twelve the year before that.
- 38:46Speaker 5: Is that Okay, I don't what. I don't want to
- 38:52Speaker 5: correlate one thing to another. Does it seem a little
- 38:58Speaker 5: I mean, does it seem a little coincidental?
- 39:00Speaker 3: No, it's the coincidental thing is that he's thirty six.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Okay, Well when when did when did Russell Wilson's career
- 39:08Speaker 2: start to dive?
- 39:11Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 39:11Speaker 4: Me, the moment it's kind of.
- 39:14Speaker 1: When no arm b Singer got married to Okay, but
- 39:19Speaker 1: how about LT Gray, How about Tiger Woods, mister un
- 39:25Speaker 1: limited Tigers at the top of his game, when he
- 39:27Speaker 1: didn't care about him.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's one specific person something about listen.
- 39:33Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 39:35Speaker 3: It's when he was limited to one single person when
- 39:37Speaker 3: they that's horrible.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Horrible comp I mean, nobody in Tiger's life that brought
- 39:44Speaker 2: him down.
- 39:46Speaker 1: Look, there's a well, he brought himself. He brought himself down.
- 39:49Speaker 1: And then there's a Kardashian role to this too.
- 39:52Speaker 3: Anytime one of those, one of those members of the
- 39:55Speaker 3: family starts getting in your business, you're yeah, yeah.
- 39:59Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, I'm not saying that the
- 40:02Speaker 2: reason it's a reason.
- 40:05Speaker 4: I mean, what the hell does Trevis?
- 40:06Speaker 2: Let me ask you something beyond just the competition of
- 40:09Speaker 2: the game. What motivates Travis Kelse right now? What's the motivation?
- 40:13Speaker 2: What is it when he wakes up?
- 40:16Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think that he enjoys being
- 40:18Speaker 1: in the spotlight for sure.
- 40:19Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I said, I've also heard I can't believe
- 40:22Speaker 5: I'm telling you this. I can't believe I heard this
- 40:25Speaker 5: that now he's meeting with all of these or he
- 40:27Speaker 5: has been with you know, these Hollywood agents and he's
- 40:30Speaker 5: you know, he was in US a movie star, happy
- 40:33Speaker 5: Gilmore too and that, and that he's at I guess
- 40:36Speaker 5: he's at all these Paris fashion shows and all this.
- 40:40Speaker 1: You're a football player. I mean it's over.
- 40:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Russell Wilson went through the same transition, right.
- 40:48Speaker 1: But but Mike has seen you know what's good good.
- 40:50Speaker 1: I hope the Chiefs think, well, this is good.
- 40:52Speaker 3: This is kind of what I'm getting at here is
- 40:55Speaker 3: the Chiefs are still going to be good because they're
- 40:56Speaker 3: the Chiefs.
- 40:57Speaker 1: You know, had a bad year last year.
- 41:00Speaker 3: And I do again want to point out that we
- 41:03Speaker 3: talk about these teams that missed the playoffs in the
- 41:05Speaker 3: AFC with really good quarterbacks like Mahomes and Lamar Jackson
- 41:08Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow, and it's like, well they were hurt.
- 41:10Speaker 3: Chiefs were done before Mahomes got hurt. Don't word they
- 41:13Speaker 3: was thinking they were what six and seven?
- 41:15Speaker 1: Ye again, Brett.
- 41:16Speaker 5: I goes back to my theory with hockey or with football,
- 41:22Speaker 5: not necessarily with hoops for baseball, but when you play
- 41:24Speaker 5: that many games, you almost need, when you play that
- 41:29Speaker 5: much important football over at an extended period of time.
- 41:33Speaker 5: You almost need an absolute reset of a season. You
- 41:36Speaker 5: think the Florida Panthers are going to come back and
- 41:38Speaker 5: be kick ass this year. I mean, obviously they made
- 41:40Speaker 5: the trade for Brady Yeah, to go out with Matthew,
- 41:44Speaker 5: but they had a down year, some injuries, But I
- 41:46Speaker 5: mean they'd won back to back Cups and had gone.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Deep before that.
- 41:49Speaker 2: I would assume they're in the mix. Yes, exactly right.
- 41:52Speaker 2: So I mean, I just think you need to have
- 41:54Speaker 2: one of these reset years and then a lot of
- 41:57Speaker 2: things come back. Now, I'm not saying that you apply
- 41:59Speaker 2: to the at the City Chiefs.
- 42:01Speaker 5: I'm saying it could be one of the reasons why
- 42:03Speaker 5: they stunk before even Mahomes got her.
- 42:06Speaker 3: Here's what I'm saying, though, And it's probably a combination
- 42:08Speaker 3: of both the Chiefs dipping down a bit and the
- 42:10Speaker 3: Broncos rising.
- 42:13Speaker 1: The Chiefs. You looked at them on the schedule, dude.
- 42:16Speaker 3: We had a running joke here for like three years
- 42:18Speaker 3: with Vic saying I have a prediction the Broncos will
- 42:21Speaker 3: beat the Chiefs, and.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Three years later, because the Chiefs, the Chiefs were so they.
- 42:30Speaker 1: Struck such fear in you. You missed for three years
- 42:34Speaker 1: in a row.
- 42:35Speaker 4: Eventually that arrow gets to the target.
- 42:37Speaker 3: They struck such fear in you that you were like,
- 42:41Speaker 3: oh my god, it's the Chiefs. There's no chance what
- 42:43Speaker 3: we win. They don't have that fear anymore. They might
- 42:47Speaker 3: still be a good team who's gonna, you know, be
- 42:49Speaker 3: a tough win and all that stuff, But.
- 42:51Speaker 1: You don't look at the Chiefs like that.
- 42:53Speaker 3: Oh so what I'm saying, and I think a lot
- 42:54Speaker 3: of that is because Travis Kelsey's just not the same.
- 42:56Speaker 1: You're right about that.
- 42:58Speaker 5: But I always say, is long as they have that
- 43:00Speaker 5: witch and if he's fully healthy, they are going to
- 43:04Speaker 5: present problems to people.
- 43:06Speaker 1: That's what I think. Sure, I could be completely wrong.
- 43:09Speaker 1: I mean, you're right.
- 43:10Speaker 5: The Mahomes more than the Mahomes to to the to
- 43:16Speaker 5: hill or you.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Know anything else.
- 43:18Speaker 5: And all those running backs that were sort of run
- 43:21Speaker 5: through the Andy Reid system, the one constant was Mahomes
- 43:25Speaker 5: to Kelsey.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this right now.
- 43:28Speaker 3: If I gave you quarterback X over his last three
- 43:31Speaker 3: years had twenty two touchdowns and eleven picks, twenty six
- 43:34Speaker 3: and eleven and twenty seven and fourteen, you'd say, huh,
- 43:38Speaker 3: sounds like I don't.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Know, Donald, that's Mahomes.
- 43:41Speaker 3: Yeah, over the last three years, those numbers are Mahomes'
- 43:43Speaker 3: numbers now, still very good.
- 43:45Speaker 1: Not taking anything away for everybody yells and says, oh God,
- 43:49Speaker 1: you're saying them. No, but we're expecting forty touches a
- 43:52Speaker 1: year out of him.
- 43:52Speaker 3: But you discuss Mahomes like he's a forty touchdown a
- 43:56Speaker 3: year guy.
- 43:56Speaker 1: He hasn't been that for four years. That's all I'm saying.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Having said that, and here we spent the last ten
- 44:04Speaker 2: minutes just taking shots at them. Having said that, if
- 44:06Speaker 2: you had your choice of Mahomes and bo Nicks right now,
- 44:08Speaker 2: who you're taking, well, you.
- 44:09Speaker 1: Had to take Mahomes. But but all I'm saying is.
- 44:13Speaker 3: Mahomes is still being discussed as a guy like Moser
- 44:16Speaker 3: said that throws forty touchdowns a year. That hasn't been
- 44:19Speaker 3: the case for three straight seasons now, Land says Vick Lombardy.
- 44:24Speaker 5: Vic in fact, put this on your on your headstone,
- 44:27Speaker 5: you ready, vicklm here lies Vick Limbardi never wrong, just early,
- 44:34Speaker 5: isn't that?
- 44:35Speaker 1: You know? Like I'll you record this, dude, so this
- 44:39Speaker 1: could be emoji. Let's listen.
- 44:40Speaker 4: The Colorado Rockies will make the playoffs.
- 44:47Speaker 1: It's gonna happen.
- 44:49Speaker 4: When did you right? I'll record this.
- 44:52Speaker 2: It's gonna happen.
- 44:55Speaker 4: I ain't wrong.
- 44:56Speaker 1: Moser's gonna die.
- 44:59Speaker 2: Thanks, you're such an a Richard man.
- 45:05Speaker 1: What do you doing? What are you putting it on me? Ricky? Bobby?
- 45:07Speaker 1: Come on? Man? Never wrong? Chester? Really okay?
- 45:12Speaker 5: Hey, honestly, Lombardi, I think it was probably you know
- 45:17Speaker 5: what it was. Yeah, the Chiefs had won nine in
- 45:19Speaker 5: a row, right, this is the one They're gonna beat
- 45:24Speaker 5: the Chiefs.
- 45:25Speaker 2: It got up to fifteen before he finally before he
- 45:30Speaker 2: finally struck Peter. You're so funny, he goes, told't you
- 45:34Speaker 2: I know the audacity to come in the next day
- 45:36Speaker 2: and go what I tell you?
- 45:38Speaker 3: Hey, John Michael Lyles is going to join us at
- 45:40Speaker 3: nine twenty this morning talk some ABS alumni game talks
- 45:43Speaker 3: from cal mccarr so stay tuned for that back after
- 45:45Speaker 3: this