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#2147 Same-Same, But Different - Patrick Bonello · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I'll get Aga Rivers. It's Jumbo, it's Fatty Harps, It's
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  Speaker 1: the Youth Project, Patrick and Tiff Day. Of course, every
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  Speaker 1: fourteenth day of my life, I'm subjected to complete fucking
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  Speaker 1: chaos and trauma and turmoil. I have to get myself
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  Speaker 1: up to do my like my box breathing before I start.
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  Speaker 1: I need to meditate. I need to get as zen
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  Speaker 1: as I can, because I know I'm stepping onto the
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  Speaker 1: roller coaster of chaos, a verbal chaos for an hour.
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  Speaker 1: But like a big boy, I put on my big
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  Speaker 1: boy pants and fucking front up yet again, Hello chaos,
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  Speaker 1: How are you both? What a ride it is?
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  Speaker 2: What a ride it is, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: It's the best.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I end up with whiplash after these sessions.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick sitting over there like he spent yesterday at Saint
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  Speaker 1: Vincent de Paul, sitting telling you boasting about he's knitted
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  Speaker 1: jumper which has got a dinosaur on it. And last
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  Speaker 1: week or last time he was NASA, he was in
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  Speaker 1: his full NASA uniform. Sheldon, you're like a short Sheldon.
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  Speaker 3: It's a park, isn't it. Yeah, it's It's a great
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  Speaker 3: knitted jumper, isn't it it's got this Jurassic stegosaurus.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what. If there's one thing that I love,
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  Speaker 1: it's a bald gay man in a diner short saw
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  Speaker 1: me the jumper. Fuck. If that doesn't do it for me,
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  Speaker 1: If that, if you can't start a cult with that jumper,
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  Speaker 1: you just not trying. He's come out punching, hasn't he?
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  Speaker 3: TIFF's offensive today?
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  Speaker 1: Really defensive? How on earth am I defensive? Name one
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  Speaker 1: thing that I've done? What? I'm on the attack. I'm
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  Speaker 1: on the attack.
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  Speaker 3: That's the opposite of defense, the art of war. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the best defense is an offense.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you've read that book. I've actually read that.
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  Speaker 1: I have read it. I have read the article. I've
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  Speaker 1: got a copy of it.
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  Speaker 3: And the next time I see I'm going to throw
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  Speaker 3: it at you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, keep your friends and enemies closer. That's the
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  Speaker 1: enemy of my enemy is my friend. He was ahead
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  Speaker 1: of his time. All so so amazing.
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  Speaker 3: It gets quoted in so many sci fi books so
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  Speaker 3: soon again, so many books full stop. Everyone quotes on
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  Speaker 3: So it's amazing book. And the interesting thing about it.
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  Speaker 3: If you haven't read it, you really should, because it's
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  Speaker 3: the art of War is about the art of life
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  Speaker 3: and interacting with people, and corporate life and just everyday life.
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  Speaker 1: It is phenomenal. Have you read it, Tith, No, I
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  Speaker 1: have not. It's very good. Well, you'd like it too,
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  Speaker 1: because you're a boxer, you're a little pugilist. You love
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  Speaker 1: you go to war every now and then in the cage,
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  Speaker 1: not in the cage, in the ring, Patrick, no comment
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  Speaker 1: from you, war every four night? Ah? Yeah, we do,
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  Speaker 1: we do. Patrick. All still in a aside. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: What is going on on planet you? Oh? Yeah, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I've got a wedding coming up this weekend. Not me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not getting married.
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  Speaker 3: But at the last minute my cousin said, you reckon,
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  Speaker 3: you wouldn't mind filming it for us?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so now the job, I don't mind it.
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  Speaker 3: She's one of my favorite cousins. So, my god, you met,
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  Speaker 3: If you.
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  Speaker 1: Met mister Wright, would you get married or is that
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  Speaker 1: not a yeah? Maybe or no? No? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand the need for I mean I understand
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  Speaker 3: the need for the I guess the legal implications of
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  Speaker 3: being in a partnership that's recognized. So I think I
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  Speaker 3: was very much a pro supporter of the idea of
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  Speaker 3: equality there, but the old institution of marriage. I kind
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  Speaker 3: of still think it's a bit kind of churchy, and
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  Speaker 3: I can understand why a lot of churchy people were
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  Speaker 3: upset with it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I would certainly advocate for anybody to do whatever they
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  Speaker 3: bloody will like, just personally, I don't see a need
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  Speaker 3: for it, because you know, under most laws you don't
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  Speaker 3: need to get married to have your relationship recognized.
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  Speaker 1: So no, I wouldn't. What about you, Tiff, if you
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  Speaker 1: had a bloke in your life, I don't know, some
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  Speaker 1: hypothetical like a guy who was a paramedic and a
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  Speaker 1: chef and funny and lovable, and at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: You asked Patrick this question, I knew what was really
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  Speaker 2: going on. I'm just saying it for you to bring
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  Speaker 2: this conversation into it.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a fucking a segue to get to you.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't want to be I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: be the cognitive covert operative. But you didn't let me
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  Speaker 1: get away with are you and Scott getting married anytime soon?
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  Speaker 1: I just thought I'd cut through all the bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: Then, No, Craig Anthony Harper, we are not. There are
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  Speaker 2: no plans to be getting married anytime soon, Thank you
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  Speaker 2: very much.
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  Speaker 1: I take that as a yes. Listeners, that's a yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's a hard yes. What role would Patrick play and
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  Speaker 1: what role would I play at your wedding?
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  Speaker 2: I think Patrick would be the flower boy and you
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  Speaker 2: would definitely be You would definitely.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be security, right, I'll be car Parker.
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  Speaker 2: We'd be my maid of honor.
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  Speaker 1: I'd make them I'd love that if you made me
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  Speaker 1: made of honor. I would wear a dress and I
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  Speaker 1: would pull that ship off beautifully. Did we have matching outfits? Tith,
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  Speaker 1: you would marry us Harms.
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  Speaker 3: You'd be the guy celebrate you can you?
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  Speaker 1: You could do it without swearing. That not a chance
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  Speaker 1: if you did that. If I didn't swear, I'd get fired,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't I.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly Yeah, yeah yeah, Friends and family of the bride
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  Speaker 1: and groom, you comes welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Craig now offers celebrancy services.
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  Speaker 2: How many people would book you as a celebrant? You
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  Speaker 2: really get your Yeah, that side hustle.
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  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a very spiritual experience, but it'd be memorable.
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  Speaker 3: He made to By the way, friend of mine, lovely
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  Speaker 3: lady who's a celebrant. She's kind of straying towards funerals now,
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  Speaker 3: so maybe you could do that as well. I reckon
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  Speaker 3: more funerals people should stay up and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: he was a real cunt.
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  Speaker 1: None of this listen to you. Li's to you, Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds it sounds wrong when you say it. I
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  Speaker 1: know I don't swear often on the air. Deal I'd
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  Speaker 1: actually don't swear.
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  Speaker 3: I try not to, you know, I'd said to someone recently,
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  Speaker 3: I have been swearing more since doing this podcast, and
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  Speaker 3: I think it's influence.
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  Speaker 1: That's called swearing by osmosis. Yes, psychological sociological osmosis, we'll
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  Speaker 1: call it. Yeah, I do you know how many people
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  Speaker 1: have said to me over the years, and I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: be prouder. I swear more because of you. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you're welcome, it's great.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, just now you asked us the question, if you
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  Speaker 3: happen to meet the automaton of your life, would you
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  Speaker 3: break No?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want me to think about that more? You
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  Speaker 1: might not realize I've had a few opportunities in the
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  Speaker 1: last forty years, so that's a hard pass. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not I'm with you. It's like, I think the fact
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  Speaker 1: that people can't just as long as they're not hurting anyone,
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  Speaker 1: choose to live, you know, get married, don't get married, cohabitat,
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  Speaker 1: fucking see each other. I've got friends they're married. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to sound weird. I would say they almost
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  Speaker 1: have the best marriage that I know. They never I
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  Speaker 1: know they never blew because I know them both well.
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  Speaker 1: They live in separate houses because they got married when
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  Speaker 1: they were like forty, you know, second time around, they
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  Speaker 1: fucking love each other. Generally they're at you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of the other's house, but it's probably three nights a
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  Speaker 1: week where they don't. And I think the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they're not in each other's I'm not saying this how
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  Speaker 1: it is with others, but like they say, oh we
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  Speaker 1: love each other, we love being together. We also love space,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't diminish our relationship, it improves it. Like
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  Speaker 1: she said to me the other day, I get excited
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  Speaker 1: when I'm going to see him. I don't think too
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  Speaker 1: many wives are saying, Oh, my husband's coming home. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so excited, you know. I don't know. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that's the optimal model, but what I'm saying is like,
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  Speaker 1: different things work for different people. So I'm not mad
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  Speaker 1: at that idea. So TIF maybe that's a potential.
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  Speaker 2: My uncle and Auntie were like that for years and
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  Speaker 2: years and years, and I always said that was the
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  Speaker 2: most they had the most brilliant relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it works. I could do that. I reckon.
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  Speaker 3: I would struggle now after well eleven years or so,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't even know how long. It's not quite
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  Speaker 3: eleven years. But I reckon I would would struggle to
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  Speaker 3: cohabitate with anybody except oh yeah, yeah, a thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Minute kind of rule at my house. It's like, if
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  Speaker 1: you're here at thirty one minutes, it's like that's too much. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I love you, but I know your ace, But can
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  Speaker 1: you go? Oh, I feel I spent a whole night
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  Speaker 1: at your place? You did? You did? I know? Next
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  Speaker 1: time you should try the other bedroom. There's lots of
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  Speaker 1: space in there. I mean, spoon by yourself. Crago, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about something that's not ridiculous. Oh sorry, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: What we're you here? For? Two thirds of Australians leave
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  Speaker 1: private information that is open to cyber criminals. Home Affairs
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  Speaker 1: Research tells us do tell Patrick.
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  Speaker 3: This is a real issue for so many people because
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  Speaker 3: cyber criminals are now able to just skim through social
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  Speaker 3: media and all that sort of stuff. This research was
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  Speaker 3: commissioned by the Australian Department of Home Affairs and what
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  Speaker 3: they found was sixty four percent of Australians had identifying
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  Speaker 3: information about them that was publicly visible.
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  Speaker 1: So what does that mean.
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  Speaker 3: It means that people are putting too much of their
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  Speaker 3: private information online and they potentially could be at risk
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  Speaker 3: from identity theft, and that's what it's about. The other
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  Speaker 3: thing I found I found was quite interesting as well,
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  Speaker 3: is that younger people are more at risk as well.
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  Speaker 3: They seem to be putting more stuff online that can
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  Speaker 3: identify them. So it's things like putting your phone number,
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  Speaker 3: your email address, and not knowing that your social media
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  Speaker 3: privacy settings you should be scrutinizing them. You should be
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  Speaker 3: checking those. And even when you install an app on
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  Speaker 3: your phone, does the app ask for access to your
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  Speaker 3: microphone and camera? That that often happens and you say
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  Speaker 3: to yourself, well, why does it need access to my
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  Speaker 3: phone and camera? You know, if it's say Facebook, why
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  Speaker 3: do they need that information? And then if you stop
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  Speaker 3: using the app, get rid of it, you know, or
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  Speaker 3: revoke access to whatever it is that it's got access too.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, that's kind of worrying. Recently, there's a
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  Speaker 3: very popular program used to build websites. It's called word Press,
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  Speaker 3: and we build our own sites for our clients in WordPress,
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  Speaker 3: and so I have a dedicated person and their only
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  Speaker 3: job is to go through and check every site every
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  Speaker 3: week to make sure security settings are up to date.
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  Speaker 3: And now what cyber criminals are doing is they're getting
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  Speaker 3: legitimate apps or plugins that go into the WordPress platform
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  Speaker 3: and instead of hacking them, that are buying out the
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  Speaker 3: company and then using that by stealth to access people's websites.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a real problem.
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  Speaker 3: And so whether it's your security online by just using
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  Speaker 3: social media, you've got you think hard about what you're
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  Speaker 3: giving access to, what you're giving permission to every single
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  Speaker 3: time that you install an app. And I think this
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  Speaker 3: is kind of really good information to have out there
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  Speaker 3: in the wild and to make you think, how many
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  Speaker 3: bloody apps have you got on your phone? I've probably
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  Speaker 3: got over two hundred on mine, and how many do
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  Speaker 3: I use every day? Maybe you know, so I'm just
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  Speaker 3: as guilty as everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's so much kind of thinking and
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  Speaker 1: talking and awareness now around. I think we talk about
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  Speaker 1: it too much, probably probably on this show we do.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, just the impact of having so much shit
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  Speaker 1: on your phone. Yeah, we spoke last night with David Gillespie,
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  Speaker 1: who you know of mate, and the impact of just
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  Speaker 1: people being basically captured by these apps, and of course
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  Speaker 1: Instagrams are biggie and the physiological and psychological and mental
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  Speaker 1: health issues from that, as well as all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about where people can now be hacked and
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  Speaker 1: tricked and deceived and you know, basically ruined financially. There's
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  Speaker 1: not a whole lot of upside to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the apps, I think.
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  Speaker 3: And I know it's if you went through your own
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  Speaker 3: journey with the securities, you know, in terms of being being.
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  Speaker 1: Hacked and all that's sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's so traumatic to go through that, and if you
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  Speaker 3: can maybe have a look and try to avoid it
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  Speaker 3: any way, you can just by go through and delete
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  Speaker 3: a lot what I really love about my phone. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure Apple must do it as well. I regularly get
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  Speaker 3: updates on apps that I haven't used for a while,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm sure a lot of you see that, take
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  Speaker 3: notice of it, have a look at what it was
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  Speaker 3: that you haven't used for a while, and then think
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  Speaker 3: about whether that app has access to your camera, to
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  Speaker 3: your microphone. Delete the little bugger and get rid of it.
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  Speaker 3: And it also means your phone will probably run a
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  Speaker 3: little bit better because you've got more memory capacity on it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm digressing, But Patrick, have you seen that shot? I
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  Speaker 1: know you don't know. You probably haven't because you don't
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  Speaker 1: watch much Telly, have you seen a show called Person
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  Speaker 1: of Interest?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Like, if you should ever watch a TV series, it's
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  Speaker 1: this because I tell you why. It's between two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight and two fifteen. I think it was two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and nine twenty fifteen. And what's fascinating is watching
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  Speaker 1: this show basically predict what's happening now with and they
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  Speaker 1: talk about AI overtaking basically the world and all like
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  Speaker 1: so much of the stuff that's happening in real time
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  Speaker 1: right now. They were doing a pretend kind of whatever
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  Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, ten earlier, like fourteen years ago. And
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  Speaker 1: it's so well thought through and so well planned, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not really at all clunky. It goes for about
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  Speaker 1: five seasons, but if you went down that rabbit hole,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you'd like the characters in it too.
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  Speaker 1: Tif you probably would as well. But I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think Patrick has more time
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  Speaker 1: than you, but got attentions Dan such. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: This is a weird one that I'm going to shut
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  Speaker 1: up and get you to talk about something else. But
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  Speaker 1: the other day I was at a at the gym
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  Speaker 1: that I train at. But you see this at most
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  Speaker 1: gyms in Australia where there's a wall of personal trainers.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen this. You go in, here's all our trainers,
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  Speaker 1: Bob and Sally and right and right there on the
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  Speaker 1: wall is their phone number. So any weirdo in that
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  Speaker 1: gym can go, oh, this young lady in the gym,
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  Speaker 1: who's wow, she's lovely. Now I've got her phone number.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon. They need to stop doing that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think. But it's still happening like it happens at
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  Speaker 1: the gym. I won't name it, but where where we
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  Speaker 1: all train and.
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  Speaker 2: Their personal phone number though, or is that a phone number.
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  Speaker 1: That that's their mobile number? Because yeah, they're all different.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the gym number, you know, you get.
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  Speaker 3: What they call e sims where you don't need a
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  Speaker 3: physical SIM card, and most phones have the capability to
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  Speaker 3: be able to have a physical SIM and an e SIM.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that for most people in business, I
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  Speaker 3: know that we give out our numbers, but if you
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  Speaker 3: were a personal trainer, particularly a female personal trainer, maybe
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  Speaker 3: get a like not a burn a phone, but get
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  Speaker 3: an alternate number and you can have it on the
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  Speaker 3: same phone.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need two phones.
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  Speaker 3: You just use the same phone two different numbers, and
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  Speaker 3: then you can just block anything or turn off that
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  Speaker 3: other number whenever you keep away from from strange people.
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  Speaker 1: Well that makes sense. If do you hand out your number,
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  Speaker 1: like do you who? What needs to happen for you
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  Speaker 1: to be able to be comfortable to give your phone
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  Speaker 1: number to someone?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if I'm having a if I'm in person with them,
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  Speaker 2: or I'm having a conversation, I'll give them my number.
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  Speaker 2: It would be on my business cards. I'd say, I
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  Speaker 2: don't really have a queue in it.
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  Speaker 1: I think I got on the craig off the back
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  Speaker 1: of a toilet door. Yeah, well that could have been
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  Speaker 1: one of one hundred doors I mean yeah, yeah, was
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  Speaker 1: it just above a picture of a cock and balls
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  Speaker 1: was that I wasn't going to go there. I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna let he start right. He starts to make me
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  Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable, and then I don't get uncomfortable and I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: ramp it up and you're then you all get fucking
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  Speaker 1: blushy it. Don't come to the dance if you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to dance. Brock and hell fuck and you're like
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  Speaker 1: ha ha, So I down the toilet door and then
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  Speaker 1: I got cock and balls and you're like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be here, let me out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking hell, you gotta go hard or don't go at all. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was a sketch of someone kneelking down.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know where you got my number off
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  Speaker 1: your chest when I wrote it on there with lipstick?
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  Speaker 1: Your bitch? All right? O? Could I just apologize to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: everybody I started that? This is why they come. Do
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: they care it? They didn't give a fuck about tech.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: They just want to hear journeying. People go I love
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you and Tiff and Patrick, and then never saying because
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Patrick's so good at tech, they love it because of all,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: They're like, fuck Patrick and his tech. I just want
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to hear you. Three hang shit on each other. Bluetooth
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: tracker hidden in a podcast. Oh sorry, hitten, in a postcard?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: How's my dick? How's my dick? Slexia going Yeah, let
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: me start again from the top. Welcome back. This is
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a you project. I'm jumbo, I'm verbally challenged. Bluetooth tracker
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: hidden in a postcard and mailed to a warship canal
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: exposed its location five dollars gadget puts a five hundred
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and eighty five million Dutch ship at risk for twenty
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: four hours. Do tell Patty how good is this? It's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: kind of scary as well.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: So the Dutch air defense frigate, the Everston, it was
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: part of a NATO operation, just a joint forced operation,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: and they encourage the sailors on board, the seamen.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: To have look girl, see like I opened the legit
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: door for you, just like here you go, be a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: grown up, put on your big boy pans, talk about
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: tech all right, continue on with your seaman story and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: carry on.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I encourage the sailors to have regular contact with family
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: and friends. And someone hid a Bluetooth tracker. So one
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: of those trackers, like an Apple a tag in a
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: package that was sent to the ship and it wasn't discovered,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: and potentially it was you know, it meant that they
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: could pinpoint exactly where it was in the sea or
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: the ocean, wherever it was. It's quite an interesting kind
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: of concept now that you can, you know, put these
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: trackers everywhere, and we hear I often hear stories about,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: you know, people who put trackers in cars or put
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: it in you know, who might be stalkers and can
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: use these trackers to track people down. So the fact
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: that it was on a warship is pretty pretty epic.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: They did eventually find it, but they don't really you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: no one really thought of the full ramifications because an
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: air tag costs like twenty nine bucks, you know, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: you can even get the cheaper Amazon ones, like you
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: can get an Android one for about ten dollars, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: these trackers could potentially pinpoint anything car warship.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I thought you said to me, I might be fucking
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: this up, that we were talking about these kind of
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: trackers and you said they have like a forty k
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: range or something. The way, yeah, go on.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: The way they work, is it they don't quite have
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So that with the Apple air tags and a lot
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: of the other tags are doing this now as well.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: They basically bunny hop off other phones in the area.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: So you know with the Bluetooth device, have you ever
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: walked out of the letter box you're listening on your
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: headphones and then suddenly you know your phones inside the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: house and your coverage cuts out because you've walked too
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: far away from your phone. Well, the air tags work
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: in the same way. But what they do is they
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: look for other iPhones and then they piggyback off the others.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: So if you imagine a map and all the different
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: iPhones that people have in Australia, has a really big
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: uptake of iPhones and it falls finish, so it leaves
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: TIFF's iPhone range and it connects to Harps's iPhone range
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: and then Patrick. So effectively, the range of the track
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter so much, but if someone has their phone nearby,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: it can piggyback off that and that's how they work.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Roger that I feel like a ray Ban Smart classes
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: have got way too much airtime on their show. But
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: just give us a brief summary of what's happening or
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: not happening. This is okay, this is an interesting one.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: It's a proposal that was kind of leaked via Facebook,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: and what they would thinking of doing was with their
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: smart glasses, they wanted to use what they call name
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: tag AI. Now what that would mean is their AI
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: would scour the internet. We just mentioned earlier too many
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: people have got their personal details online, their name, their photo.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: The AI glasses, if you walked up to a stranger,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: it would scan their face and then pop the name
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: of that person up creepily.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: That would also work with children potentially, So suddenly it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a very deep and.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Dark, kind of ominous cloud over these smart glasses. I
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: still like the idea of calling them glassholes. So in
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: this instance, the seventy organizations have got together at this
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: proposal by Meta, and it sounds like they may cancel
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: it because there's been so much pressure from a whole
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: lot of civil rights groups saying this is just taken
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: creepy to the next level.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: So that's what's happening at the moment.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: But there's another article I read I think yesterday, that
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: is the law enforcement or is it the Ice Skies
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: in the United States, that group of they call.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Them ice Oh yeah, yeah yeah, Ice yea.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Well, they're talking about rolling it out for them so
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: they would be able to scan people in crowds and
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: potentially pick up and scan massive databases to be able
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to id potential criminals or people who are anti Trump.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Who knows what the things are that they're going to
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: be scanning for. And that's where these smart glasses are
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: kind of bad in a lot of ways when it
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: comes to privacy, because the've got damn cameras built into them.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And the thing is, when you open
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: this store, and let's say we did have that technology
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: available right now. And while I love police and I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: love doctors and nurses and all these people who do
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: these amazing jobs, you know, you only need one person
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: who's a scumbag who's also in some kind of job,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and it's going to be misused, you know, So that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: it's like most police scumbags, absolutely not. Most of them
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: are somewhere between good at their job and amazing, just
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: like podcasters, just like whatever. You know. But I feel
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: that as a lot of power to give an individual. Yeah,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and you just wonder where those glasses with that capacity,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: where that might end up. You know that obviously that
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that could end up in the hands of people who
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: aren't don't have our best interests at heart, So yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I don't. I like the technology. I think it's amazing,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like that, shit, I'm like, that is so amazing that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you can look at someone tells you their name, who
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: they are, where they're from, you can access all their
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: data with facial recognition. And in a perfect world, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: think it'd be brilliant. But we don't live in that
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: world where people don't steal and manipulate and extort. We
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: don't live in that world. So I think with technology
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: like that, you've got to be real practical about how
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it would be used in the worst case scenario.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I would love to have a pair when I am
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: with a whole group of people whose names are forgotten, because.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I can see that would be great.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: When you're function and you're wandering around, you think, oh man,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: what's that person's name?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Pretty crap at that, And you can only use old
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: cock for so long. Yeah, I mean, you've got to
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you got to get something else, nugget two dogs. It's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: terrible with ladies, sure is Scott. With ladies it's tarta
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: because you can't call them old mate or two dogs
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: or bro. I mean, Tiff, does I call you bro?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: All the time.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I was menaging my friend in Perth the other day
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and I said bro, and she wrote back, don't you
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: ever call me bro again? What the who are you?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And I was like, you met?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of dudes, mate, all everybody brow
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And then like I really realize what you've done to me, hearts,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: You've ruined me.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Ruined me? You never come? How come in this this
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: story of self awareness? And then I all of a sudden.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Becomesmosis social osmosis. It's out of the hands.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: With people who drag.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: You up well somewhere.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: If that was true, i'd be kissing boys because I've
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: been hanging around with Patrick thirty years. So although that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: could be on the cards, I mean, let's see how
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: we go.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Look at how successfully you've been with the women that's true.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't look to me for any relationship advice.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I am a poster boy for nothing. Good Yeah, good observation, Patrick,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you? Sorry? Yeah, you just see, there's no need.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: There's no need to be sorry because there's an element.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: But I guess you have to want that, don't you.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: But it's not I mean, yeah, it's not just not
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: high on my list of things. To is do the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: right word. I feel like that's saying yeah anyway in other.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: News and in other news, I'll give you a hand
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: up out of the hole, mate. Vivian Mayer is an
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: amazing street for photographer who was discovered after she died.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And she was this woman who was quite quirky. She
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: was a nanny for lots of families I think in
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: the United States, so in New York and a few
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: other places. And what people didn't know about this woman
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: was that she was minding the kids. But she also
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: had this really cool Hasselblad camera. Where ever seen those
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: cameras that people would hold at chest height and then
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: look down and the viewfinder was by looking down, so
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: not holding the camera to your face. So Vivian Mayer,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: after she died, all her possessions went to auction, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: this really scanny guy saw all this undeveloped film, thousands
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: of roles of undeveloped film, buys the lot for three
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: hundred bucks and suddenly discovers this woman was an amazing
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: street photographer.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I know it's a long story, but there's a reason.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: So there's a real concern that street photography may die
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: because of people's concerns about privacy. Now, I don't know
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: if you've seen any of those lovely black and white
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: photos of candid shots of people being people in say
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: New York or wherever it happens to be, or Melbourne,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and there's an amazing snapshot of a moment in life
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: where people are being themselves. They're not knowing they're being photographed,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: but it's just beautiful photography. And I love street photography.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: And now there's a suggestion that with smart classes and
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: all the techlet's around and how easy it is to
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: take photos of people, I guess covertly and that's exactly
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: what this was. But that's where I'm warring with the
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: idea of taking photos. In Australia, it is legal to
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: take a photo of anybody in the public space. So
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: if you're walking down the street, you're walking into your cafe,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I potentially could be sitting in my car with a
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: long lens and I could take photos of you while
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: they got creepy quickly, didn't it. But that's legal. You
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: can do that in Australia. And so I don't know
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: what's your take on street photography. I think it's a
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: beautiful art form and I think capturing the moment and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: if you look at some of the old street photography,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: it's phenomenal. And that's why I mentioned Vivian Mayor. If
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen the documentary Finding Vivian Mayer, do get it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite films.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, but I feel like the magic
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: has gone, like now, I'm not even sure. I'm pretty
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: sure it was Melbourne. There's this old photo from maybe
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties and it was at a busy intersection
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: in Melbourne and there are people walking just like the lights.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know how come, but there are people walking
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: every direction across this intersection. So the traffic was stopped
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: both ways. But I think it's like forty five seconds
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: or something. But it's just this sea of humanity, as
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you said, completely oblivious to the fact that anybody's capturing
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: this moment, and just the clothing they're wearing, and all
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the men with their hats and the women in you know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: they're fuck what are you allowed to say in twenty
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: twenty six? But am I allowed to say? They're beautiful
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: dresses and dudes, the dudes with their umbrellas and you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: men carrying newspapers under their arms, and you know, the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: odd cigarette hanging out of the gob, you know, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Telly her spit and it's like fucking just being why
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: do I say that word so much? I'm going to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: try and lower it. Yeah, it's like it's like my
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: verbal spack filler, you know, when there's like a hole
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: in the wall. But yeah, I love that stuff. But yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's transferable to right now because
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: as you said, you're out taking pictures of people in
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the street. That's not magic. That's a jailable offense. Well
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: not according to you, but you know what I mean.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: That's gone from like beautiful and magic to creepy. Elizabeth
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Street and Flinders Street.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I was just thinking of the one intersection in the
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: center of Melbourne that has multi directional crossings is the
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: only one I can think of, Tiff.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Said last year, a couple of times in one of
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the local Facebook groups around since Kilda Elwood, I remember
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: seeing posts twice about a particular man that people were
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: warning was standing on like somewhere near the beach in
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: sin Kilda and taking distant from a distance, taking photos
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: of women sunbathing on the beach. And the manner in
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: which he was doing it was concerning people and that
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: so they were they were approaching him and telling him
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: he wasn't allowed to and so it was a bit
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: there's that aspect that gets a little bit creepy.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, somebody said to me the other day
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: at the cafe. Because the you know the little stand
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: on the back of the iPhone that props your phone
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: up so you don't have to hold it anyway, I
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: broke that, so now I've got to hold it if
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm scrolling something or whatever. But it could look like
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I'm filming people who were in front of me. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: someone said, I know you're not, but it looks like
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you're filming people. And I went, oh, good point. And
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: now being conscious of angling it down towards the floor more, Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: because as just somebody walking in going, what's that guy
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: over there holding up his phone like a fucking granddad,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: like squinting at the screen like fucking mister magoo, oh magoo. Yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: But it's there's there's so many things now that and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that all men have it harder. We didn't.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: We definitely don't. But like I was walking to a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: friend of mine as Aaron. Do you remember you know
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Asa who used to work at Harper's Patrick maybe yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a cyclist, a cyclist, Aaron. Anyway, we were going to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: get a coffee. We're walking from my joint up to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the and to walk to the cafe that we went to,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you have to go past the school. And it was
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: lunchtime and I said, mate, let's just cross here just
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: before we got to school. He's like, all right, well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I don't like walking past the school, and just because
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like, not because obviously anything's happening, but perception.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Oh the old guy walking past the school where children
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: are out playing, And I don't want to give anyone
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: any reason to have any perception. And that's kind of
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: sad that you just can't, like you think, oh fuck,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about what I'm doing or not doing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about how this might look to some people
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: who make some kind of assumption. So you know, that's,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of course, this is a minimal issue. I understand people
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: have real problems, this is not one, but yeah, just
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: factoring that in, as you know, as like even with
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the guy on the beach with a camera that Tiff
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: was talking about who could have well been a legit creep,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: but you don't know, and there could be other guys
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: walking past the school who are no good. Well, how
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the fuck do you tell the difference. I had an.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Interesting situation kind of prop up last night. I was
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: teaching tai Chi and I was talking to one of
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: my students before class, and she was telling me that
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: someone had posted on Facebook recently in one of the
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: local groups there were a couple of kids and we're
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: talking under eighteens, who allegedly had stolen alcohol from the
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: local supermarket. And there were a number of police cars
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: apprehending these young people. And someone said that they were
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: actually in handcuffs. Now that's pretty dramatic for sleepy old Land.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: That you never see that ever.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: And the thing that really struck me was someone took
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: a photograph of that unfolding with the faces of these kids. Now,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: what happened to innocence before conviction? You know, you need
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: to have due process. And I thought, you've taken a
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: photo of a child, and they are a child still
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: under eighteen. They may have done something wrong, but you've
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: potentially now posted it on Facebook and a public group.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: And I thought that that was not just creepy, but
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: really a horrible thing to do. Sure they've done something
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: stupid potentially. Sure they've been apprehended and they've been put
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: in handcuffs. But man's that's shaming someone to the nth degree.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Isn't that awful?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Man? You don't think so? Ah? Okay, Look, I'm like
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: with the shit that's currently going on that you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: like like these they were on the news last night.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: There were these four guys that attacked They were hanging
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: out of a car. They attacked these people of a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: whole shooting match. Horrendous, right. One of them was already
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: out on bail and then he got rebailed, right, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: they just kicked the shit out of this bloke. Like, honestly,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: you're seventeen years old. Fuck out. If you're committing serious
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: violent crimes. I do not care about whether or not
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: your face is in the media. I think, why, hang on,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: why are we so worried about this guy that's repeatedly
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: been charged and found guilty and then bailed. Why are
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we worried about that? Like this brings up something me
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the protector. I'm like, I think we need to protect
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the people that are being violated and harmed way more
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: than some guy having his face seen. That doesn't bother
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: me at all.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Now, look, I agree with you on that front. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: for hard crime, I think it goes back to the
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: judicial system and the magistrate or the judge who decided
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: to put somebody who was already bailed on bail again.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: That's just the stupid thing to do personally, I would think.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: But I'm talking about a soft crime of theft. I
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: mean this is coming from somebody who I know. You
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: gave me that gave me a hard time about it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: But I had my car broken into and a lot
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: of stuff taken and that was really really upsetting.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: So I get it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: And if I'd caught the bloke who was breaking into
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: my car, yeah, I probably would have taken a photo
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and given it to police and maybe published it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: But the reality of it is I get where you
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: from and I think that we need to be tough
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: on crime.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: And I know the laws are changing.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I think in Queensland recently they just lowered the age
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: so I think someone even at the age of fourteen
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: or fifteen can actually be charged with adult kind of
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: They can have the book thrown at them effectively, even
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: if they're under arm age.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: So that life. Yeah, how do we get too grown
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: up or serious on what is essentially a frivolous talk fest?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like I think, whatever we are current
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm not blaming anyone, I'm not blaming the police
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: or the judiciary. Aya, There's a multitude of factors. But
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the bottom line is, whatever we are currently doing in
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Victoria anyway, it isn't working. Like that's not an opinion.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Just fucking pay attention because it's escalating. It's not diminishing,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: it's escalating. There are more people being hurt, there are
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: more crimes, there's more prevalence. It seems everyone gets a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: slap on a wrist. And I do not think the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: way that we are currently approaching it. I do not
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: have the solution. But you know, people who haven't done anything,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: all the compassion from me. But the people who are
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: actually perpetrating crimes and literally hurting families and individuals, fuck them.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: They need to be dealt with. Like, the problem is,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: you can go commit a crime and there's no real deterrent.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: If you're a certain age, it's like, well, and you
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: can run around with a machete, you can commit violent
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: crime and some of them get put into juvenile detention.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, it's just it's a very
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: it's such a weird time at the moment, just like
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the shit that none of us grew up with, Like
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: it's just unheard of, you know, like like in Sleepy
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Beland there probably wasn't in the nineties. There probably wasn't
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: a crime committed for the decade. You know.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: When I first moved to the land, I was part
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: of neighborhood Watch and we ended up closing it down
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: because there was no crime exactly. This is eighteen years ago.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: We used to get together for meetings. It's like, well,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: what happened nothing? What have we been putting the newsletter at?
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Nothing?
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: It was. We ended up just like we let's just
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: put the money back into the neighborhood watch pool because
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: there's no reason to catch up.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Tip. Were you going to say something? No, No, Patrick,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Let's jump in the nature and we can go back
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: if you want. Nature in the story, nature might pulse
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to a universal rhythm of two beats per second. How
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: amazing is this? I've got to tell you more about it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: So there's research that's been done into multiple species, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: it's believed that across the entire planet there's a whole
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: lot of animals have this synchronicity where no matter of
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: the size or the species or whatever the animal happens
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: to be, there seems to be that communication within that
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: species is two beats per second. So say it's a firefly,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: when they're flashing in sequence and they're communicating that way,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: it's two beats per second. So this is an analysis,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: a deep dive into the communication signals across the entire
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: animal kingdom. So bird mating calls frogs doing you know
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: their real froggy things?
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Human music as well. I love it. I love it
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: when you get technical. Hey everyone, just like if you're
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: taking notes, keep up, just froggy doing you know their
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: froggy things. Just we'll just take a break now so
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you can get that down, Patrick Baronello, Patrick James Bonello,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. You welcome, carry on, Thanks for that.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I have tree frogs around my house too, not inside
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the house, but I hear them all the time.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I love the tree frogs. Anyway, do you mean do
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you mean you have tree frogs or you have tree frogs. No,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I've got two plus one. Yeah, tree frogs. I got
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: tree frogs. I've got tree frogs in mcgarritonha to Misha.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Anyway, as I said, a tempo of these signal clusters
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: around two bits per second.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to keep doing the show in
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: an Irish accent.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: But isn't it amazing given how long all of these
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: species have been evolving independently, and yet there's this amazing synchronicity.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: So a mathematician by the name of Guy Armasha from
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: the Northwestern University of the United States has been looking
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: into this and he said it even resonates on a
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: level of ten hurtz, he said, which they just can't
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: fully explain. But I love the sense of this interconnected
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: nature of nature.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Isn't that phenomenal? Yeah, it's amazing. Ah. I think there
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: is so much more going on with nature than we
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of people who contend
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: at the well, there's a very informed, educated group of
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: people now who are researching like consciousness in plants. Now,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: if you'd have said that to me ten years ago,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: would have gone, you're a fucking idiot. I'm open to it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Now like a kind of not consciousness as in human consciousness.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: But by the way, we don't even know what consciousness is.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: You know that in science they call consciousness the big
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: problem because nobody can explain what the fuck it is.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: But at the very least, we might say in plants
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and animals, it's a kind of an awareness, you know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: where they know something's going on and they respond to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: that something. Well, that's a kind of knowledge, an awareness
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and a response. Yes, Tip's got a little nose picking
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: figure up, she's got a numb figure up. I read
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the book called The Secret.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Life of Plants maybe a couple of years ago, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: it's brilliant. And I just looked up then when it
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: was written in nineteen seventy three, really, and it is
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: an incredibly insight. It's a brilliant book.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Must have had a resurgence because I only read it
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: again myself the first time maybe two or three years ago.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And it talks about the my celial network where the
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: fung gu I have the synchron city with trees and forests,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: and that's how they connect to each other and they
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: can warn each other.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: It's phenomenal. That's like when there's like an invasive bug
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: or whatever at the start of a forest and it
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: starts killing trees or leaves or whatever, and then there's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: this almost like the analogy would be an underground neural network,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: and it kind of then the trees further along where
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the bug or the whatever is progressing, start producing this
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: toxic shit that kills the bugs and it like, but
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: they've been forewarned by the trees that precede them, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: then it stops. So that is I mean, that is
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: an intelligence. That is absolutely intelligence because there was a problem.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: They solved the problem. They talk, They just don't talk
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: like us. They think, but they don't have contination. They
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: don't go, hey, you fucking trees over there, what's going on?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: You'll look shit, there's none of that. Maybe they take
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: you just in a froggy sort of way. Oh, can
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I just say, without knowing anything about this next story,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: it's so very arrogant of me. I say it up front.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I call complete bullshit on the next story before you
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: even tell me what it is. I can tell you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: because I feel like if this was true, it'd be
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the top thing on every news coverage in the world.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Scientists revive a twenty four year old, twenty thousand year old,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: twenty four thousand year old animal frozen in Siberia. It
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: woke up and started reproducing. I'm calling bullshit.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: It's reported that it was what they call a road
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: of fire. It's a very very small, multi cellular organism. Okay, now,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: these that's not an animal. It is I think a
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: scientist saying that it's an animal to an animal, it's
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: a multi cellular You.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Think you think scientists don't bullshit. I'm a scientist. I'd
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: bullshit all the time. It is zoo clearly. Clearly, I'm
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: not the high water mark.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: So it's it's it's a freshwater zooplankton is what it's called.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: And they founded in perma frost and it had been
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: frozen for twenty four thousand years and they were able
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: to thaw it out and it came back to life,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: is what they're saying.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think plankton is an animal, bro right,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Isn't it? Isn't it? It's like fucking seaweed. Some of
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: my tiff look up plankton and tell me what it is,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and it's called a zoo plankton. Yeah, are you admitting defeat? No,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not admitting defeat. The word the word animal frozen
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: in Siberia is somewhat misleading.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Organisms that drift in float in water.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: You say that again.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Plankton are tiny living organisms.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hardly an animal.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Zooplankton tiny animals that feed on either plankton or organic matter.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Fuck but how big? How big are those How big
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: are those tiny animals? I'm still trying to win. How
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: big are those tiny animals? Your honor? How big are zooplankton?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Not as big as a fucking if it's not as
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: big as a German shepherd?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm out they are zero point zero two millimeters, zero micrometers.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Twenty microns. Yeah, yeah, so you can't fucking see them.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: They're not an animal, not how big it is. It's
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: what you do with it, Craiger. You should know that,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: do I Have you seen my nose? Larger?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Zooplankton up to a few centimeters small, visible like tiny shrimp,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and then giants still technically zoo several meters long.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Like. All I can say is thank god they're back.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, everyone sigh of relief. Fuck hell thousand years
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it's like, shit, what just happened? Where is everyone? Yeah?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: By the way, what's the internet. When birds sing around
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: your home, science says it's boosting your mind and well being. Yeah,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that doesn't I believe that?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know. I love when I do
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: my morning walks. I hear kooker barrows. Magpies are probably
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: my favorite. I love the warble of a maggie. But
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate where I take out Fritzy and we
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: go walking, we hear lots and lots and lots of birds.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: And now it's thought that there's a real psychological connection
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: to listening to birds and the beneficial effect it has
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: on our brains. And it's thought that having birds nearby
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: can make your mind sharper and more capable of focusing.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And I never really appreciated birds as much as when
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I went to Beijing and didn't hear or see any.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Go to a big and there are no.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: And it really struck me that I thought, wait a minute,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: there are no birds. Weren't even pigeons craping on stuff.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: So it was really quite interesting. But this is a
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: it's an article called the differential effects of mindfulness and
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: distraction on affect and body satisfaction following food consumption.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I like that title I would like to commute.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Can you say is that if I click on the
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: link here, will I find that article?
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe, but anyway, So hearing birds at
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: home boosts cognitive function, is what it's thought as well.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: So there's a sense of well being, but it also
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: helps with cognitive function as well. So isn't that great?
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe go to bed listening to bird sounds. I mean,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I guess you just go to YouTube.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I listen to waves. Okay, I listened to the ocean
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that just I can be wide awake and I have
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the waves start crashing and I'm out. I'm out a
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: simpler way of being the simple. This feels like nineteen
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: seventy eight, the Rise of the Offline Club.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I love this. Young people are doing some really cool stuff.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: There's a thing called analog bags, and this is so cool.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: What young people are doing is they're leaving their phone
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: at home. They're getting a bag and they're putting in
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: gigsaw puzzles and things you can draw on, and they're
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: going and hanging out and they're using their analog bag
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: to connect with people, to not have smartphones, not look
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: at screens. And I love this movement away from technology.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: As someone who loves tech, I think, you know, just
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: getting away from it is such a relief as well.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: So isn't that a cool thing to do? Analog bags?
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I love the idea behind that, and I like that
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: young people are saying we need to be more engaged
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: rather than looking at screens, and they're doing it. No
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: one's forcing them, They're kind of making the decision themselves.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's good and I think that I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: think we really need. As Tiff and I have spoken
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: about this before. The we all know, ah, we scroll
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: too much. You may or may not. I don't know
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: how much you do, but TIF and I definitely do,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and a lot of our listeners definitely do. Like I said,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I was talking to David Gillespie last night, Patrick and
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Tiff and his son, his son who's as smart. All
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: these kids are smarty pants as. But one of them
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: realized he was, probably, much to his absolute shock, probably
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: wasting about three hours a day on his phone, which
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I think is probably the lower end of the scale
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: of some people. But he put this app on that
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and it was on Instagram. He put this app on
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: where you can just I know everyone has heard of
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: this except me. So I know it's not news for
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: many tips like well that's been around since the Second
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: World War, you'll fuck with but anyway, and then back
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: in my day, the telephone, oh Graham, Alexander Bell, what
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a forward thinker he was, and the car. But so
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: it just stops you being able to use those apps.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: You set the time and it's locked in and no matter.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I guess eventually you could if you had to. But
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: then yeah, so he's allowed to use seven pm to
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: seven thirty is his Instagram time, and he said it's
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: like changed his life. Like sometimes we're not going to
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: will power it, We're not going to white knuckle it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we need a tool to help us.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: You're my tool.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: I think he's talking about me, Tiff. I hope so, Tiff,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good idea. Do you use tech
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: tooo much or do you use you know, are you
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: a scroller Patrick or not?
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I'm a YouTube scroller, so I don't use social media
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: at all, but I do find I fall into a
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: little bit of a trap of looking at YouTube a
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: little bit, you know, flicking through. I mean I would
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: sit down and watch a YouTube movie and I love
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: watching short films, so I like looking at different genres.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of sci fi channels that I really
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: really enjoy watching. There's some really good stuff on YouTube,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: and there's a lot of independent creators, people who are
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: filmmakers who may not ever get to a film festival
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: or may not ever get to a cinema, but there's
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: such good stuff on there. So I think rather than
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: just scrolling, you know, incessantly, I tend to go past
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: the shorts. I don't really like the shorts very much.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: I like to do a bit of a deeper dive.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: But I definitely am a bit addicted to the five
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: to twelve minute short films. I love them, and I
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: will sit down and do that. But I also scroll
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: news a lot. My tech news that I do I
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: do when I wake up is go through my tech
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: news and start looking at what's happening.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I feel like when you're watching little videos like not
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: thirty second things on Insta or TikTok or whatever, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you know where you're actually learning something it's not you know,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like I commit upgrade. It doesn't have to
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: be a downgrade to your brain. Now Patrick going to
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: be very magnanimous, which is ironic because if you are magnanimous,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you don't call yourself that. I'm going to be very
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: magnanimous and say we've got a not long to go.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get let you pick the last two
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: stories because there's about ten options and rather than me
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: just target in on one, is there one or two
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: that or is there two that excite you more than
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the others?
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, you know we did the whole moon thing
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: last episode to the Artemis Mission. I'm still excited about
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: it because there's a lot of moon stuff in the news.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: But I had a real chuckle to myself when I
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: saw an article that Volvo has developed the Cosmic Surfer,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: which is a it's got gravity adapted wheels designed for
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: driving on the Moon. So Volvo and you can think
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: of the safest vehicle in the world. Volvo has created
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: and they're hoping that this will be the next moon landing.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: This is their rover.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: The funniest thing about this car, which looks amazing, it's
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: got fucking break lights, like.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Wow wow lights. It's the only rover on the moon.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Now one's going to back into you, no one. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: just sorry. That just tickles my fancy.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: That the Volvo cosmic server has break lights.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Well, it's probably because it's to get people like you
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and me talking about it. And here we are simple
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: as marketing strategy. Ever, let's put brak lights on it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: People will talk about that shit. I'm going to have
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: a look at that cosmic surfer by Volvo last one,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: last one, bro very. This is close to my heart.
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  Speaker 1: Mum had Alzheimer's.
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  Speaker 3: It's thought now that the use of AI could detect
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  Speaker 3: early signs of Alzheimer's in under a minute, so being
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: able to deep dive and to uncover early signs of
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  Speaker 3: Alzheimer's in ways that maybe traditional methods can't find. Because
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  Speaker 3: there's about seven even in the United States, about seven
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: million Americans aged over sixty five are thought to be
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: living with Alzheimer's, and there's a lot on a as well,
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  Speaker 3: and so the research that's been done is using AI.
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  Speaker 3: And this is some of the really positive stuff that
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: comes out of AI studies because it's been published in
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease and it says that basically
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: they're focusing on analyzing the really subtle patterns of speech
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: that people have. So looking at speech patterns and they
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  Speaker 3: think the change in word choices, fluency, sentence structure can
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: be an indicator.
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  Speaker 1: So by analyzing.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: That, they may be able to detect in a really
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: quick way whether a person may have the beginnings of Alzheimer's.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that was really really fascinating. Yep, yep,
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  Speaker 1: that's quite close to my heart at the moment, as
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you might both understand. So anything that's going to help
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  Speaker 1: in that space, mate, I'm all for. And anything that's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: going to kind of reduce diagnosis to treatment time potentially
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: is a good thing. Well done, you, Well, that was fun.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: That was Wow. That was a real pot poirie of conversation.
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  Speaker 1: That was a fruit salad of verbal intercourse. Wasn't it
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: to finish off that way? Didn't he? Tiff? He had
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: to do it?
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  Speaker 2: What the pictures in my head right now are.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: So that's why, that's why if I ever did stand up,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: which I won't because one I'm not funny and two
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I'm scared, But if I did, I would take you.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I'd whack you in the front row because because see
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: it's like Pavlov's dog, I just say dick and then
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: you laugh for three minutes. So why wouldn't I Why
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't I Patrick, We appreciate you. Tell people how they
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: can find.
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  Speaker 3: You websites noow dot com dot au and do message
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: if you want us to talk about anything, if you'd
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: like to offer some sort of sympathy note you know
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: to Crago, particularly because we've been.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: So mean to him.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: You know, all tie cheer at home dot com, Dona
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  Speaker 3: because you might want to do some tie cheat with
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• 57:08
  Speaker 1: And now, Tiff, I just saw you turn off your
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: mic because it looked like you were coughing up your esophagus. Yes,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: are you all right?
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I'm getting there. This is going to be a thing
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: to shake. I think I just have a lingered us now.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know it's it's shape shifted every day. Last
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: night I started to get like a saw had a
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: sore throat. I just went straight to a complete loss
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: of voice.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: That's the most funny comment of all time that I
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: could say now, but I'm not.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Going to after we sign off.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah I will, I'll give it to you. Speaking of Scott,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: has he got it? Has he got it? Look?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I am going to I reckon he might have given
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: it to me. He had a bit of a bit
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: of a cough before. But he hasn't gone through the
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: full gamut of illness that I have. But I'm going
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: to blame him.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just strikes me as somewhat robust.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, he said he doesn't get sick just because
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: it is to get sick.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's because when he was a paramedic but around
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, yeah, he was around all that shit. Yeah. Well,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I'll be over here in my little kind of incubator,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: my little thought incubator, with my bare feet and my carpet,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: my bamboo trees like a fucking loser. But anyway, all right.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Lust side, you're not going to catch anything. You don't
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: mix with anybody if you eat exactly.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm an island in the sea of humanity,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: just over here weeping in my breakfast. Anyway, enough of that, tifty,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: you want to see you put up your little for
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: your half.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Interesting Luke knows the sound of me wrapping up a
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: podcast because she just scratched your little nails on the
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: studio door and she only ever does that as on
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: winding up a podcast. And it's crazy.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I know. If you wonder who we're talking about, it's
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: TIFF's daughter who has to scratch at the door. She
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: also has a cat, but that's for another episode. You
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: should feed that child honestly and the way that like you,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I need to have a talk off air. Thanks everyone,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Thanks mate. Bye,