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NFL DFS Week 5 Takedown Breakdown | Winning DraftKings Lineups & Strategy Review · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff. What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 3: Totagan Tambo, back for another edition of the Takedown Breakdown
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  Speaker 3: here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station.
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  Speaker 2: Got my guy.
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  Speaker 3: Bellman here with me this week. Gonna break down all
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  Speaker 3: the winning DFS lineups, the perfect lineups, the optimals, looking
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  Speaker 3: at the stacks, the top DFS players across the industry
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  Speaker 3: playing yesterday for the Week 5 main slate. over on
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  Speaker 3: draft kings that's a band dual data i think today
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  Speaker 3: too that we can look at we'll wait and see
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  Speaker 3: what's there but there's gonna be a lot of good
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  Speaker 3: stuff we'll be using our partners over at dfsos.com you
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  Speaker 3: can use code ship it there to get 50 off
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  Speaker 3: and i think you'll want it once you see what
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  Speaker 3: we've got to offer there but bellman i'll bring you
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  Speaker 3: in man back in the booth good to have you
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  Speaker 3: back how you doing my friend i'm.
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  Speaker 4: Good man happy to be back with you i know
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  Speaker 4: i was on here with nades last week so i
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  Speaker 4: missed you happy to be back on with you this
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  Speaker 4: week and we got a uh Fun, interesting, not so fun,
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  Speaker 4: depending on what angle you want to take Slate to
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  Speaker 4: look at yesterday. As always, injuries just so rampant in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, man. Every single week, it feels like it just,
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  Speaker 4: someone somewhere is getting screwed. And it's tough, man, because
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  Speaker 4: the injuries just suck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The injuries hurt for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I got crushed in both my mega tickets yesterday. I
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  Speaker 3: had a Hawkinson and one, I really liked this Kyler
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  Speaker 3: build that I had. I talked about it on the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the show yesterday on the Sunday shipper show.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going to show that one. I could show
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  Speaker 2: them both.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, but I think there's other stuff to
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  Speaker 3: get to, but I want to show that build because
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  Speaker 3: in talk through some strategy, I think that's going to
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  Speaker 3: be important for how you, someone thinks about a slate
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  Speaker 3: when they only have one or two lineups when others
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  Speaker 3: have a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully that can help some people out there. Um,
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  Speaker 2: What does the B.
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  Speaker 3: On the hat stand for? I know it's a Bentley symbol,
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  Speaker 3: but do you have any cliche one-liner? What would you
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  Speaker 3: say your B stands for? Because I got one for mine.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely stands for Bellman. Clearly it's a hat.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. The M stands for mediocre because it was a
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  Speaker 2: mediocre week for me.
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping it would stand for Millie or something
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  Speaker 3: like that, but it was definitely a mediocre week.
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty good on FanDuel. It was rough on DraftKings.
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  Speaker 3: And the main thing was the two mega tickets, which
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  Speaker 3: was nice that I only got, I got them. People
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  Speaker 3: saw the screenshots of Discord the other day and baseball.
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  Speaker 3: I got them back-to-back weeks on a Wednesday in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have those that many games. It was like
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  Speaker 3: a four game slate before the playoffs moved around and whatnot,
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  Speaker 3: or less, maybe three games. But yeah, um, getting two
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  Speaker 3: tickets for like less than a hundred bucks is nice.
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  Speaker 3: Turning them into $ 0 is not so nice when they,
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  Speaker 3: they have that value. So got to work on that.
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  Speaker 3: But 12th, the previous week was, you know, we were
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  Speaker 3: felt like we were getting closer. We'll see how it
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  Speaker 3: goes this week. Any other takeaways from yesterday? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously the big Detroit, Arizona game, which we're going to
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  Speaker 3: show everything off here in a minute, but, um, it
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  Speaker 3: like wasn't going until it finally was late in the game.
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  Speaker 3: It just shows you what could have been, but there
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  Speaker 3: was other games on the slate, the green Bay game.
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  Speaker 3: We were all over the, uh, new England game. I
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  Speaker 3: talked about yesterday, the maze, the Millie makers, and there
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  Speaker 3: was the Millie maker, I believe was a Drake made
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  Speaker 3: to Mario Douglas winning lineup. After all the jokes that
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  Speaker 3: I had around that yesterday, it turned out to be true,
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  Speaker 3: but any takeaways for you right off the top from
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  Speaker 3: yesterday's slate.
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  Speaker 4: For me, the biggest takeaway I have from yesterday is
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  Speaker 4: just kind of like, you know, putting the Detroit Arizona
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  Speaker 4: game aside, like in its own box, A lot of
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  Speaker 4: the best plays were just the best plays. And that
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  Speaker 4: really means that running back a lot of the guys
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  Speaker 4: that we and everyone talked about around the industry just
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  Speaker 4: ended up being really good plays. You didn't want to
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  Speaker 4: get too outside the box, whether it was obviously Gibbs
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  Speaker 4: was amazing. He was super pricey, but whether it was
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  Speaker 4: Braylon Allen, Jalen Warren, guys he needed. So sometimes the
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  Speaker 4: best plays are just that the best plays.
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  Speaker 3: Especially at running back, the running back chalk typically comes through.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be like, all right, how did like, even the,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like Swift was okay. And he might've got
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  Speaker 3: you by the way, Swift didn't have the best game
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  Speaker 3: as the other guys did like a Warren type game
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  Speaker 3: or anything, but maybe that's what you used on the
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  Speaker 3: other side of your, your love Watson golden stack. And
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  Speaker 3: you're like, well, damn, that worked out pretty well. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like, you, you end up having that in there.
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  Speaker 3: So sometimes it's like one side does work.
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  Speaker 2: For the other.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's a topic that, you know, people
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  Speaker 3: don't get to enough. They're like, well, how did so-and-so
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  Speaker 3: get to this guy in their lineup? But it's like,
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  Speaker 3: that's what helped them make the stack work on the
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  Speaker 3: other side. And that still ends up being what you needed.
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  Speaker 3: And then like Nate says, I had 80% swift. I know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he talked about his exposures a little bit
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  Speaker 3: yesterday and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's, it's all risk reward.
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  Speaker 3: Um, if you, but I guess, uh, you know, I'll
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  Speaker 3: just give Nades a little feedback here. Like I saw
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  Speaker 3: him just talking about in the discord, like didn't have
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  Speaker 3: enough Warren. Well, that's what you got to balance for. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I think I had 50% of both or something along
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  Speaker 3: those lines in my MME stuff, but it's like whatever
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  Speaker 3: you were taking to get that much Swift obviously was
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  Speaker 3: pulling from other places.
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  Speaker 2: But again, what you want in your pool is up
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  Speaker 2: to you. So it's not like there's a right answer.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I always do look at that when
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about a portfolio exposure and I, I call
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  Speaker 3: it portfolio manipulation, right? is like you're able to manipulate
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  Speaker 3: your portfolio in your favor and you still would have
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  Speaker 3: had good numbers on Swift and plenty of exposures or exposure,
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  Speaker 3: but you also would have been able to get more
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  Speaker 3: of some of the other guys as well.
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  Speaker 4: So I wanted to ask you something kind of as
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  Speaker 4: another takeaway that I think people like discussions about this.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just curious from your standpoint, because I know
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  Speaker 4: this is something you talk about a lot and I
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  Speaker 4: know you were going to get into it with your
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  Speaker 4: Tyler lineup when you're only playing, you know, one or
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  Speaker 4: two lineups in a field where guys have 20. When
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  Speaker 4: you have a lineup or not even a lineup, an
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  Speaker 4: entry or two entries that are from tickets, especially in
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  Speaker 4: like a big contest like this, that would cost, you know,
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  Speaker 4: four or five grand to shell out if you didn't
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  Speaker 4: have the tickets. Do you play those differently than if
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  Speaker 4: you entered them without tickets? Cause like you mentioned something
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  Speaker 4: and it just has stuck with me about how, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it sucks to get back $ 0 and sure it sucks
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  Speaker 4: to get back $ 0, but at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: you're playing to win. So of course it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: But when you, are able to get into one of
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  Speaker 4: those contests for less than $ 100, like you said? Are
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  Speaker 4: you more interested in a mint cash than you otherwise
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  Speaker 4: would have been? It's your perspective here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, great question, actually. I love this one.
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  Speaker 3: I think people will like it. No, and I think
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  Speaker 3: that's a mistake that most people make. I talk about
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  Speaker 3: it a ton over at dfsmastermind.com. You can find it
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  Speaker 3: in all just the basic modules, let alone within all
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  Speaker 3: the courses and the teachings and the coaching and all that.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people win a satellite and they win
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  Speaker 3: it in an aggressive way, right? They're willing to play aggressively.
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  Speaker 3: It's usually the opposite. So that's why it's such a
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  Speaker 3: good question. Most people win a satellite ticket, $ 9 turns
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  Speaker 3: into 555, or let's use what I did, $ 37 into 4444.
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  Speaker 2: I had to beat 140 people or whatever it was
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  Speaker 2: And maybe it was more. I can't remember. Maybe it
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  Speaker 2: was $ 75 or something. I can't remember the exact math
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  Speaker 2: or numbers. But anyway, the point being.
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  Speaker 3: When you win the ticket, you play aggressive because it's
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  Speaker 3: less than 50 bucks, less than a hundred bucks for both.
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  Speaker 2: Like it was fine, right? You're, you're, you're going on,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to win the ticket. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: all good.
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  Speaker 3: But then they switch up and say, okay, I want
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  Speaker 3: to make sure I at least min cash. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to play it safe. Well, that's why I'll show you
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  Speaker 3: my Kyler lineup and everything that I did yesterday, because, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Detroit Arizona game is just going to
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  Speaker 3: be so covered in that tournament.
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  Speaker 2: That I'm covered every which way.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'd be looking for the thread of the finest
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  Speaker 3: needle you could ever find. So I played to win
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  Speaker 3: and I'll talk about it directly. Great question though. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's important. When you do win it, play the
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  Speaker 3: same way you want it. And again, the way you
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  Speaker 3: want it wasn't stupid. You're not just the luckiest person
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  Speaker 3: in the world that played like an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: No. you played accordingly, but you probably took on a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more risk.
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  Speaker 3: Let's say it was in baseball and it's a core
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  Speaker 3: slate and you faded cores, but got there with the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers or the Yankees somewhere else or the Phillies or
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  Speaker 3: something that you're like, well, there's still a really good stack.
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  Speaker 3: People just couldn't get to them today. And they're like
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  Speaker 3: the fifth or sixth best stack. Well, you can think
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  Speaker 3: about it like that on the main slate, because most
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  Speaker 3: people are going to play the core slate. And then
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  Speaker 3: the top players that have multiple lineups within their own
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  Speaker 3: portfolio manipulation are going to have a giant portion of cores.
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  Speaker 3: And then some of those other ones trickling out. And
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  Speaker 3: you just want to be in the room where you
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  Speaker 3: can be right and be paid more when you are right.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to our guy, Tidal, who always talks about that.
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  Speaker 3: But yesterday, that game had pieces that were needed. A
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  Speaker 3: bunch of them got there, and we'll look at it.
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  Speaker 3: But I said it on the Mayo show on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: I said it's a week where the biggest... tournaments like
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  Speaker 3: the mega are going to be won by the best players.
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  Speaker 3: Do you, do you know who won the 44, 44
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  Speaker 3: mega yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Links, right?
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  Speaker 2: No, that's the guy we're going to look at in
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  Speaker 2: the $ 20 Millie maker. Uh, actually I can't remember. Maybe, um,
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  Speaker 2: it's a different name.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have it up here in a second, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: almost positive that, uh, you to cow links came second.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You to cow one. Okay. So just noting it,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, literally the best in the world, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: right now. So I would say, you know, him getting
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  Speaker 2: the job done. No surprise. But lots of guys came through. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: there's my man, Tyler Hicks. Where's he at?
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  Speaker 1: Right here.
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  Speaker 2: Jerm Bernard. He sent me the DM yesterday. Shout out
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  Speaker 2: to him.
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  Speaker 3: And we did talk about on the show and reference
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  Speaker 3: him and credit him for that one, too. But the
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  Speaker 3: Jeremy Bernard learning the playbook. I don't think had anything
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  Speaker 3: to do his, his success. I, sorry, I'm saying, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think had anything to do with the Wilson injury.
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  Speaker 3: He was already being featured. So great call out there.
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  Speaker 3: And I think sometimes you got to look at that
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  Speaker 3: stuff as well. I know others had talked about it too.
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  Speaker 3: That was a pretty awesome call on that one. There
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  Speaker 3: was a couple of others. You had, you have Warren crushed.
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  Speaker 3: Also you were on like.
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  Speaker 2: Again, When Dowdle's out, Warren, great. When Mnangai's out, Swift,
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  Speaker 2: pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: No Brees Hall, still no Adonai Mitchell, Jets short at home, rain,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera. You could play that. You could play Braylon Allen.
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  Speaker 3: All these spots at running back made sense. It was
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  Speaker 3: the stacks around them where you could really get different.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll look at that in a second just to
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  Speaker 3: go through it. Nate said this one too, and I
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  Speaker 3: was going to hit on this quickly. I'll get your thoughts,
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  Speaker 3: but We talk about this all the time. It's a
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  Speaker 3: long-term game. That's takedown breakdowns. Some people said this show
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  Speaker 3: is more mindset than it is actually digging into results.
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  Speaker 3: And so we are going to look at all the results.
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  Speaker 3: I promise you guys, but they said it's like the
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  Speaker 3: Monday mode. or the mastermind Monday or whatever you want
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  Speaker 3: to call it, where we go through this stuff and
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  Speaker 3: just talk about mindset. You know, the English language is funny, Bellman,
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  Speaker 3: because Close and close are spelt the exact same. So
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  Speaker 3: I often get close, but you got to close. And
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  Speaker 3: it's the exact same word, right, on paper. But it's
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  Speaker 3: not the exact same result, right? Getting close doesn't pay
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  Speaker 3: like when you close.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. And so I do think that's important
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  Speaker 2: to remember.
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  Speaker 3: But the most important part, in my opinion, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: kick it to you on thoughts, is just like, if
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  Speaker 3: you're not getting close, that's the problem. It's really hard
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  Speaker 3: to close when you're not getting close. And so your
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  Speaker 3: process needs to be your own. It needs to be
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  Speaker 3: something you can build around repeatable, have something that strategy
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  Speaker 3: that you say, okay, I use the stone at ship
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  Speaker 3: at nation. And then I hand build my lineup with
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  Speaker 3: the stone 2.0 in the hand builder, or I go
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  Speaker 3: into Saber Sim and build my lineups there for MME process.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you don't have something that to recognize where
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  Speaker 3: you can learn from and get better from and act
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  Speaker 3: from and change and do all this stuff and adapt,
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  Speaker 3: then you're probably not going to be able to get close.
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  Speaker 3: And then if you're doing it, you know, long-term like
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  Speaker 3: we are, it's week five. Like somebody said, like who
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  Speaker 3: really cares? It's like, I'm actually happy. I haven't closed
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  Speaker 3: anything big yet to start the season. I've got two
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  Speaker 3: second places in the FFWC. I got 12th in the
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  Speaker 3: Mega Millie. I got a close call in the Juggernauts
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  Speaker 3: on FanDuel. The sign exists for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: We move on. Nobody cares. Work harder. We're playing for
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  Speaker 2: the whole season.
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  Speaker 3: But I've actually never had an opening five weeks before.
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  Speaker 3: where I felt like I was more dialed and that close.
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  Speaker 3: And if everybody follows me and knows me, I talked
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  Speaker 3: about it in the off season that I really had
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  Speaker 3: a process for dialing in my first six weeks of
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 2: And it's been working.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't close. I just got close. So do
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  Speaker 3: you have any thoughts on that? I mean, obviously we're
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  Speaker 3: playing a long game, but I think it's important to
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  Speaker 3: recognize that.
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  Speaker 1: It's insane.
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  Speaker 4: For me, it's like the thing that stands out to
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  Speaker 4: me is like, you can't close if you don't get close, right?
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, All you can
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  Speaker 4: do is put yourself in the position to be close
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  Speaker 4: to close because we're not the ones out there. Like
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  Speaker 4: a lot of this is you can only control what
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  Speaker 4: you can control, right? And we can control a lot
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  Speaker 4: as far as our processes and the work we're putting
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  Speaker 4: in and how we're making lineups, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's still human
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  Speaker 4: beings playing sports.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of it.
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  Speaker 4: Is always going to be out of our control. It's
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  Speaker 4: important to recognize that. So I think the main point
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  Speaker 4: is what you said. You can't close without getting close.
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  Speaker 4: So continuing to put yourself in that spot and I'm
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  Speaker 4: with you, I haven't had a massive win. It feels like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, centuries at this point, it's been, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, you know what I mean? You know how it
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  Speaker 1: goes when you're.
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  Speaker 2: In baseball, by the way, but yes.
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  Speaker 4: When you're playing DFS every day, you know how it goes,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm close and I'm there and I feel it.
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  Speaker 4: And that's frustrating on one hand, but on the other hand,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, one of these days it's going to close.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm with you all the way around that.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly it. I'm teasing because obviously Bellman's super humble,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like he has just he did just crush recently. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we all go through these ups and downs.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's important to remember it. It's good for
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  Speaker 3: everybody to think about. I know yesterday there was somebody
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  Speaker 3: in our discord and, you know, shout out to Sully
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  Speaker 3: here who says, by the way, being in a community
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  Speaker 3: like the ship at discord where you can ask questions,
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  Speaker 3: be held accountable for playing bad is crucial for me, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are around people that are playing for real. right?
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  Speaker 3: Everybody that's in there, a lot of people that are
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  Speaker 3: really focused on getting better at DFS, but also people
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  Speaker 3: that are great people like Sully, who said, you know,
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: somebody came in there yesterday and said, I think I'm done, guys. Said,
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: you know, five weeks in, Haven't had the result yet
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: that I wanted. Feels like it's never going to happen
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: type thing, basically, is what they were saying. And to
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Sully's point, from learning his own way, and he's won
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: 50K before, and setting aside money for taxes.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: He was helping someone with their tax questions. Ship it now.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Got their biggest win, 15K.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: How do taxes work? And Sully informed them on that, too.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: But Um, Sully also offered this certain member. I won't
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: name names just to note.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: It just happens. People go through these ruts or periods.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: Um, Sully said, I'll give you a, I'll cover your
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: next month free of charge and took care of the
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: bill for that member. So we just love seeing stuff
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: like that. And that's a good segue to where I
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: was going quickly. Got to, got to update everybody. If
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: you didn't see this, I've harped on it all season long,
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: but at Ship It Nation, we have an internal game
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: called Ship It Games. You can go to shipitgames.com and
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: check it out. And people say, oh, just get to
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: the numbers and the winning lineups. It's like there's no
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: community in the entire DFS space that's giving away any
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: money let alone $ 50, 000. But the craziest part is there's
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: no community, communities out there that are making millions in
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: revenue annually that are not giving away even $ 5, 000. And
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: our own guy, Sharks8819, talk about community, is giving away
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Over 10% of his 40K win last week where he's
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: giving away $ 48.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: 53.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: He rounded the ship at games pool up to $ 50, 000.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Just a phenomenal, phenomenal thing. Just so grateful for a
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: guy like Sharks. It is Canadian Thanksgiving, by the way.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: So something I'm very thankful for. is this, this guy's
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: just absolutely go to, this is back-to-back years, by the way,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: gave us almost $ 5, 000 last year as well.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: So won't harp on it. Just want to say thank
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: you again.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: If you go to the website, Ship It Nation, go
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: to Ship It Games at the top, or just go
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: to shipitgames.com. You'll see that every all access and NFL
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: only member is eligible. There's 50 golden.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Ship It tickets. 15 are gone.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: We just haven't updated the three winners from yesterday yet.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: It just happened last night, but they'll be updated by
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: this afternoon. So there is still 35 golden ship.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: At tickets to give away.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: And each week you play for them. We don't just
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: give them away. You got to get into a contest
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: and win them.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Skill game. And then it's just like an online live final.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: It's online final, not live, but it's like a live
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: final where you're playing for the top 10 of the 50,
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: 50 people get in and win their way in the
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: top 10 move to the final. And right now it
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: is now 12,000 cash for first 6,000 cash for second
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: 3000 for third and so on and so forth. down
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: to 1200 for the top 10. There's some annual Saber
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Sim and Ship It Nation memberships that go with it
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: as well. So a lot of cool stuff. If you
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: guys want to check it out, go to shipitnation.com, go
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: to Ship It Games. You can see all the details there.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: We are going to get into the review part of
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: the takedown breakdown, and we are using our friends over
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: at DFSOS.com. It's just five letters, DFSOS.com. It's your daily
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: fantasy sports operating system. You can check it out and
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: see how the best DFS players actually play. It says
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: right here on there, there's a demo.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: You can check it out.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: If you just want to buy in and get the pricing,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: You can go here and right now with code SHIPIT,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: you can unlock all of the full data for 29
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: a month with code SHIPIT. So it works out to
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: a dollar a day. If I go back for a
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: second and just show you guys all the updates. You
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: can see it works alongside all the tools that you
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: already use. Doesn't matter what site you're with. It is
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: not a competitor. It is a complimentary piece. You're taking
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: your own stuff and looking into it. It is the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: only spot I know of right now that has all
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: of the FanDuel data that just got released on October 1st.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: You can literally go now and see what the FanDuel
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: data is telling you. If you're trying to get better
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: at this game, you might want to do something like that.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: So that's a key piece.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: You can look up any DFS player on either site
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and see exactly how they.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Play, how much they've won for the track tournaments. It's
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: not their lifetime. There is no PNL or something like that.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: It's not the.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: got you moment someone. It's the fact that you can
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: actually go in and see what a top DFS player
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: is actually up to. And then you can review what
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: actually happened. We're going to use the slate review right now.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: You can find the top EV contests and actually go
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and explore the contest lobby right on DraftKings and see it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: You can test your own process.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: You can upload our projections, your projections, other sites projections
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: or ownership and be able to back test them in
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: basically two clicks.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So I would check this out. If you haven't already
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: unlocked the full data, use code, ship it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: It's going up to $ 99 a month, but you can
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: lock in 29 a month for the entire NFL season
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: works out to a dollar a day. You get everything
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: else that I haven't even covered here, but we're going
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: to hop in and use this right now. Bellman, if
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: you go into the dashboard, and you land on your
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: own customized widget here that you can check out, all
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: you do is you go to perfect lineup, make sure
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: it's set up.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's already loaded.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: If not, you can change it to see, but this
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: is an example. We're looking at DraftKings here. I want
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: to see though, does the FanDuel data come up yet?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Let me see.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: It's not updated yet as of last night, I don't think.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: But it is up to October 8th, which is pretty cool.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, just so you guys know, that'll be up
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: here shortly, I'm sure. But if you do look at
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the NFL one, it is Sunday. And then you can
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: go to.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Where am I at here? Mate, gosh. Monday morning. I apologize, guys,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: but just note it. This is crazy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: So the optimal lineup was 284.76 yesterday. It spent 49,600.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: This is way more of a success leaves clues thing. Again,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: we're not expecting you to get to the optimal lineup.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And what does this have?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but just so you guys see it, Drake May,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Demario Douglas, and then it's got Jalen Warren and Fryermuth.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: It's got Gibbs, the 49ers D, Isaiah Likely, Malik Neighbors,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and Christian Watson in it. So it's a little bit
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: spread out, but there's cases to be made for all these.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I'll let you dissect it first, Matt. What's the first
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: thing that comes to mind here?
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, double tight end without either guy getting a lot
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: of hype from the industry.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, certainly Fryer Mews was unowned.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: And then Likely, even though the Sims were pushing him,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: under 10% owned, wasn't a popular play.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Obviously guys like McBride and Laporta and Laporta was good.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Just interesting. That's the first thing that jumps out at me.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: You know, this isn't a lineup that anyone's going to
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: have and just super high scoring week as evidenced by
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the 285 here.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I think the key to for me was like the
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Gibbs factor, right? Not about his points. And, you know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: like at 9800, you got to put that kind of
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: score up, but it's like he's the only guy. needed
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: from that entire game. And that was the perfect way
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: to do it, right? And it's not what ends up
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: on the winner. We know that too. Like there was
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: ways to get, there's literally Brissette lineups that won because
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of people were on them. There's so many
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of them in the pool, but just to see it
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: in the end, this build, okay. Drake may with Douglas. I,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you can go on my ex at toe tag and Tambo.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: There's a video talking about it before the slate started yesterday.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: It was not that surprising. People use Dobbs, but people
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: use Douglas.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I know that I think it was John Aguilar was
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: back in the streets yesterday. Fatal error. Won a bunch
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: of tournaments on there yesterday.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I believe he just had may with Douglas and I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: think Bowers and then moved on to the other places
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: in the other games. Congrats to him. Phenomenal job of
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: building that way. But when you have a cheap guy
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: that can pair, by the way, it's not like Um,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: it was that crazy. Nobody really liked Dobbs or expected
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: back-to-back touchdowns, uh, or back-to-back two touchdown weeks. I should
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: say on top of the fact that Mac Collins is
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: still out, there could be some back and forth with
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the Pats D being beat up and you get that
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: little game flow. So we were on this anyway. But
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: no doubt, best spot of the week. People like this game. Christian,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: they were in on this spot for sure. We talked
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: about the other game, the Giants and the Washington game.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And there was lineups out there, by the way, with Winston, neighbors, likely.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: And then Antonio Williams, who didn't have a big game.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: But look, he fit the spot where pretty much around
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: where Douglas was. I think he was 3,800. You wouldn't
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: have got 22 points. You would have got 8.8 or
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: whatever he got. But it just shows you that. So
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: people say, well, how did you get to the... It's
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: not about Antonio Williams in that spot. It's about getting
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you to Jameis, Neighbors, and Likely, who really crushed, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: then allowing you to fit Gibbs and Warren and Braylon
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Allen and one other stud. Maybe it's Watson because you
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: weren't on love in that lineup or something like that.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: So just showing you how you can get there, I think,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: is key. We still do see the too tight end
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: system pop up. I'm going to keep harping on this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: This is a pricing thing that people are, again, are
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: they adapting more than ever?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: More people are playing two tight end lineups and that's key,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: but the best players are playing even more two tight
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: end lineups than you. And that's something you need to
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: remember and think about. And the reason is I explained
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: it yesterday and then underdog posted it today on Brock
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Bowers is JSN for $ 2, 300 cheaper. And they showed the
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: stat this morning on underdog, which I don't even know
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: why I still follow that. To be honest, it's so
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: beat up at this point, but just noting it, he
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: has more receiving yards in three games in three games
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: than some of the top names you'd expect have in
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: four or five games.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And that's what I'm trying to showcase. So, Oh, but
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: he's 7,000.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: It may seem expensive for the position, but you got
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: to think about the entire slate. We had value running backs.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: We had value wide receivers. We had opportunities to get there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: So anything you want to add further on that stuff, Bellman,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: or just the two tight ends, the one piece from Detroit, Arizona,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the like how you get to a game stack or
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: a way to make it work.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Anything else you want to add?
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: No. The big thing for me that stood out is
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: when you mentioned the Antonio Williams and how Not only
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: did like Antonio Williams in your example, like playing him,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: you were probably playing the really.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Good piece around him, like Jameis, likely neighbors. So the
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Antonio Williams subpar game didn't matter as much because you
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: were on such other good plays. In the same vein,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: like because the Detroit-Arizona game was so highly owned, if
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: you like got off of a couple of pieces that
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: were really popular there, it enabled you like a guy
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: like Tesla had a zero. but he was still one
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: of the lineups that finished first, second, or third, really
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: high up in the four, in the four, four, four,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: four had him because of the roster construction to your point. Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go here on screen and do this
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: just to show you guys how easy it is. Cause
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: we're going to pivot out of the slate review stuff.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: But if you just click up here, like I said earlier, there,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: there's a bunch of different features, right? You can check
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the accuracy of your projections and ownership. You can go
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: in and get the news automatically. I know people are
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: looking for a, what are we looking for tonight?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: DJ Moore, right? The latest news was, you know, is
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: questionable or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Monday night's game against the Rams, right? People are waiting
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: on this or whatever it is you want to find out.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: You can go and find out the news there. We
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: were in perfect lineup. There's a bankroll tracker on here
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: that other sites charge 30 bucks a month for alone
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: that you can go in and get, right? There's a weather,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: different factors and things that you can go into, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: we're going to go up to slate review and start
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: looking into it here.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And I want to show something. So I'm on DraftKings 2026.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's already loaded. It's right here.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Sunday, October 11th. You click into it. All this stuff
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: is tracked, right? Here's the $ 20 Millie maker. Here's the 44,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: 44 mega.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Here's the three 33 wildcat, the showdown stuff from last night.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: It's already all uploaded, ready to go. So I mean,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: it's first thing Monday morning and you want to go
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: find something. So 250 won the $ 20 Millimaker, right?
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: And we were on.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: 284 on the optimal. So you didn't need close to that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: But just of note, I saw it here with like
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Shucky Ducky.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Here's the Antonio Williams lineup I was looking at. And again,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it cost you. It didn't get you to the top.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But if I load up, so when I click on
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Shucky Ducky, just so you guys know, it loads up
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: this screen. I'm just going to run it on two
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: screens so you see it. They actually only, I can
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: now get all their details.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: They had one lineup.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So everyone they owned was 100% in that one build.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: They used the max salary. They scored 234. They had
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: nine unique players. Again, they played one lineup. It's more
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: important when you're looking at somebody with a portfolio. But Jameis, Neighbors, Likely, Williams.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: And Williams was, it was 6.1 points.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Apologies, right? But look at like 3.9 Jameis, 8.8 Neighbors, 11.9 Likely, 32, 32,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: almost 30. It allows you to fit. No doubt. Warren
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: sounds good. No Manung guy. Swift sounds pretty good. All right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: What else can that get me? All right. The Jets
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: D is in a pretty good spot. Sure.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are playing them, but that's fine.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: They ended up getting 16 and now it's just two V2s, right?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: they could have played anything like, you know, Jackson Smith
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: and Jigba and Watson. There was plenty of combos you
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: could have played there. But if you're not going to
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the Detroit, Arizona game, which I think will come up
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: again when I talk about whether or not they meant
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to do this strategy. But if you're kind of having
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: one lineup in a tournament where so many people have
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: 150 and there's that many rosters, I don't hate ignoring
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: the game altogether by any means. Well, then you might
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: want to pick up on spots that actually have ceilings
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: out there that they can get you.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: 39.8. 25.8 is a bad day for JSN. 32.1, 32.4.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: We've already seen a couple of touchdowns from likely in
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: one week, et cetera. Watson seen a couple of touchdowns
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: in one week, et cetera. 35.8 picked up some ceilings elsewhere.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: So this just shows you didn't get all the way
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to the top Bellman, but that's where Williams can make
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: the rest of the lineup really work. And if you
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: built something like this by hand and even screwed up,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: The last two spots, you might've still ended up with
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: like 180 or 190 in some of these higher, um,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: dollar or even smaller field satellites and tournaments.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: And then it becomes contest selection could be working your favor. Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: And it's kind of one of those slates where the
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: scores you needed, but you really needed and Warren was owned,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: but even he wasn't like crazy chalky Watson people were
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: on him, especially in green base tax, but he had
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: the highest score for a wide out. I think only
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Gibbs beat him and he was sub 10% owned. So
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: when you're playing all the good plays like that, especially
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: when they're not super chalky, the Antonio Williams six doesn't
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: kill you to your point. Maybe you don't get all
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: the way to the top, but because of the pieces.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You're putting around him.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: And the other thing I took away from just everything
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you said is, you know, people playing a lot of
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: people playing one 50 in a contest like this. So
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: if you're not playing one 50, maybe you get away
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: from that game altogether. I kind of took the opposite
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: approach in how I played yesterday, but I certainly agree
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: with you. Like in any contest, and it goes back
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: to what you talked about with the big Millie maker.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: If there are people that are able to play three, four, five, six, seven,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: eight times, 10 times as many lineups as you are,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: And there's one obvious spot, maybe your best avenue to
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: getting all the way to the top is not playing
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: that spot 100% with you.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so we'll get into some other stuff here,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: but I think that's just key to note. And again,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: it's somebody played one lineup, they got this outcome, et cetera.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: It's way more about the conceptual, conceptualizing the lineup to say, okay,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: how does an Antonio, what are you talking about this.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Failure, Antonio Williams and how he helped? It's Antonio Williams
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: was the run back for Winston neighbor's, Right.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: You also played him over a Trey Harris who was
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: even worse. So like there's tons of ways to.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Look at it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: So it's like, again, to try and make it perfect,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: don't know, but they used it to get to something else.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: And I don't mind that also. It's like crazy, but
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: some of these guys didn't even come in. Oh, and
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: you mentioned it like Warren didn't actually end up getting
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: that much ownership. And again, people say, well, you're being
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: results oriented. It must be nice when he puts up 39.8 points.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Like if Dowda was out, we knew that before.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: And Roman Wilson was a popular piece at wide receiver,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: which was also a build style of using cheap wide receivers,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: which I'll show you from my own process, which can
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: only be done before the tournament starts beforehand and show
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: you how I talk about that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: But Warren was a guy that you almost are leveraging.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Not quite.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Cause I like Wilson was off the charts, but you're,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: you're leveraging in a way of you're not using the
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: popular chalk, cheap wide receiver piece of Wilson on that
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Steelers team. You're getting to Warren and other people are
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: on different running backs around him that you're pivoting against.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: And then also you could be leveraging by getting into
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: a different roster construction where you're building with multiple running
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: backs of different the 6K range or whatever while not
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: playing a running back in the flex like this person did.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: So whether they meant to or not, some pretty good
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: strategy and strategic stuff built into that lineup.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: But go ahead. Anything else you want to add there?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: If not, I'm going to look at some of these
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: other notes.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: No, let's keep looking at them. Just I think all
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: your points make sense.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Sully always has good stuff here.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: So I think what really threw me off was Jenty
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: being in on Sunday morning kind of threw me for
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: a loop build wise. I would say like the preparation
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: versus planning, not going to review. I know it's, we
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: get new viewers each week. And like, I've talked about
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: this a ton, but being.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Prepared versus being, you know, versus planning to play, everybody's
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: planning to play, but being prepared. the gentee news didn't
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: matter unless he was out to me as much. I'm
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: not going to say completely.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Cause I have some more thoughts on it in a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: minute when I get to my lineup stuff. But what
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is not like we were going to be
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: playing gentee and it's.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: You know, reality.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: What really mattered was if Mike Washington jr. At 4,200
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: was the lead back and in the, Well, now you're Detroit,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Arizona stacks got even easier to build. So I think
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: that's how you got to be prepared for it was like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: it's if gentees in, it just means we're not playing
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Mike Washington jr.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: No, the only counter I would have to that is
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I feel like all week, the lead up was that
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: gentee wasn't going to play.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: So I would almost reverse it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: We already prepared. They have a running back and he
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: was limited and then didn't, and he MP. So that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: what you'd expect for sure.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: So wouldn't you kind of what you're saying? It doesn't
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: even matter.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: It's semantics, but be the reverse. Like you would, you're, you're,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: would be prepared for him to play, not to be out.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Cause you're planning for.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Him to be out. You know what I mean?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Which.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: It's why I would understand that it would mess with
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: people more than a normal guy is in when.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You'd expect him to be out.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: That was an extra added wrinkle. But also again, I,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you know, I can document it on the stuff. Luckily
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I record my entire journey here. And so on the
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Mayo show, I talked about, I said, people are, are
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: going to make mistakes on this slate because of this
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: one Detroit, Arizona game.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And then this added an extra wrinkle. And it's why
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I predicted the best players would win.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Because like I'm saying on Saturday night, this thought is
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: based around, like we kind of expect now it's like
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: he could play. So we're starting to think about what's
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: what's that's what I'm being prepared. So on Saturday night,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: you should be looking at that and saying, if gentees in,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: what does it mean? If gentees out, what does it mean?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: We know what it means if he's out. But again,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: there's penthouse process. There's levels to it on the out.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Meaning if he's out, the first thought that everybody knows
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: in the automatic one is out.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Mike Washington Jr. is $ 4, 200.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: That's the easy part. That's the one that everybody gets to.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: That's why people were literally building lineups with that in
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: on Saturday night, myself included. I was building for sets
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: of lineups, thinking about what's it look like.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: With these in. But when you take it to the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: next level and look at what does that mean? What
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: does Mike Washington starting mean? Meaning gentee out. What does
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: gentee out mean? Well, now it gets even easier to
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: over stack the Detroit Arizona game. So it means when
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I'm playing in a tournament.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow, which we are, we all are, I don't know
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: which ones everybody's in, but just noting it when I'm
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: playing in a tournament tomorrow, I might be more likely
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: to actually fade that spot because now I'm expecting there
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: to be even more over stacks of that game. So
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: if I only have one lineup against it, I'm probably
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: less likely to get it done in that spot. Now, again,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: it depends on how you want to play and your style,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: like what Bellman asked me off the top. That's why
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: this is a perfect topic for today that we're kind
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: of just walking ourselves into. of when you only have
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: two lineups and how do you want to play it?
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I still don't want to play that spot because even
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: with Mike Washington not getting into those lineups, I still
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: thought there was way too many of those lineups that
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: had me covered. I also was on Leverage Lane documented
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: again saying I don't want Michael Wilson.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: At 50% ownership. I had it on Parker Washington the
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: week before.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I just don't want on 12 game, 11 game, 13
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: game slates of any kind. I don't want the 50%
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: owned wide receiver.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Like there's just so, so many options and there's wide
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: receiver ones that are on shitty teams, but there's still
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: wide receiver ones and they still get the job done.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: So it's not results oriented. Again, I said it on
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Saturday morning. It's not like I'm making it up now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It's just my way I play. And so hopefully that
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: helps some there, but on the flip side of it,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: if Gentee was in, it's now back to almost, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's kind of like saying, okay, Great.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Now I don't have to worry about the Mike Washington stuff.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And I know that my pool of running backs is Gibbs,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: is Swift, Braylon Allen, Warren.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever. I'm going to use Jonathan Taylor in.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh stacks or whatever to speed up the games.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Like you kind of just go back to the normal
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: pool there. So it's almost like a false positive where
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: people like use it to.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Not in a bad way.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's almost becomes like a crutch for like, well,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: this threw me off. It's you, you could have figured
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: it out Saturday night and been able to apply it
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: based on that factor. It's not, not saying it's going
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: to be second nature for everybody, but just know that
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: you should be thinking ahead of these things and building
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, it was just
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a little preview for NBA DFS in a couple of
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: weeks anyways, right?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: And no, definitely not saying I avoid the 50% Wilson. Um,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: when we do leverage lane K rich, just if you're
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: not familiar, so, you know, we're talking about like our,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: our biggest lineup or like our single entry stuff, right?
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, like if I'm playing a, um, I'll
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: show you my lineups in a second. We'll get to
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: them anyway.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: But I was just saying I didn't want that stack
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: or that build in my mega lineups, for example, when
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: we're looking at it. So I'll be able to show
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: that off when we get there. But just of note,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I got to shout this out too. It was pretty
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: cool yesterday. Hoop.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Finished in 10th, our guy Hoop over at Ship It
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Nation here.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: We got Hebrew Cheetah, Rio, also over at Ship It Nation.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And our guy Title, Zed Trivet is Zach and Title Town.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: And they were all inside the top 17 with some
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: shots down the stretch. It was a Jacoby Brissett, a
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Drake May, and a Jacoby Brissett lineup. They all had
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: something within them that hurt them a little bit. But
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: three guys in the top 17 of the tournament. And
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: they're all part of Ship It Nation. Matter of fact, Hoop,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Title and myself will be back in an hour and
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: a half to record the Showdown Chippers show for tonight,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: as we usually are. So if you're just joining us
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: or never heard of it, you can check us out there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: But anything you want to talk about there, if not,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I want to go into, I think it's like Island
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: War that got the job done. But this was a
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: stochastic logo up top that had the 50K win.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: And I'll go into their lineup so we can see,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: let you talk about it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that seven figs. got passed, was in
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: first for a while. I actually played a little differently
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: myself yesterday. I max entered the $ 20 just because of
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: the slate itself.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It was a weird one, a one that we probably.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Won't see for the rest of the year, just with
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: that condensed ownership.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: It was a spot I loved. I struggled with.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Contest selection yesterday, which I normally don't at all because
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I normally play similar stuff, but I wanted to switch
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: it up yesterday because of just how much of an
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: outlier slate it was. And yes, someone mentioned it before.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: The Detroit-Arizona game had a lot of points, went over
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: the total, but the only player you needed from that
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: game was Gibbs.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It ended up being the Gibbs slate for sure. Like
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I said, you could have got away with it otherwise, right?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: But that was the main setup. I'm going to bring
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: my stuff up after, but let's go into this one first.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: So the winner of the $ 20 Millimaker had the 150 lineups,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: 56 of them cashed. You can see their average score
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: was 143. They were spending most of their salary as
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: most do. They had 98 unique players. For those that
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: have never used something like this, this is why it's
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: so cool. You can literally see like, okay, a quarterback,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: what were their exposures? Well, they had Jacoby Brissett at
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: 52% of their lineups. on a ownership of 28.6 for
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: that contest for a Delta of plus 23%. And he
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: put up 26.3 points. So you can literally look by position.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: You can change it around completely. You can sort it
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: by something different. Like it's just, it's all there for
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: you to see what they were on. But again, you
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: don't usually get the, the ability to go in, in
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: other games. We talk about all the time. You can't,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: see all the poker players hands. If you're a professional
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: poker player, if you're a professional golfer and you're out
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: on the PGA tour, you can probably say what's up
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: to Scotty Scheffler.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: You might be able to hang out with them. You
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: can watch some of the shots on tape, but you're probably.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Not getting any insight beyond that to be able to
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: find out what his practice and training said.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: What does his portfolio look like?
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: All these things. So this was the winning lineup though.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: We'll go to it here and I'll let you break
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: it down.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: It was a Drake May, Pop Douglas lineup, talked about
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that on the show yesterday.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: You see the common theme. Here's the three running backs, Warren, Swift, Gibbs,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Trey Harris with only 3.6 points, didn't matter. Double tight end,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: or sorry, not double tight end, likely at tight end.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: And then Jets D and Christian Watson. So had to
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: have it scores mixed in there with no real crazy correlation,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: but they did land on spots that you would expect.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I'll get into my thoughts more. I'll let you take
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it away first, but 50K spent the full money, 250 points, 0.06
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to get the job done and ship the Millie. Congrats
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: to you for winning the first prize, a million dollars.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, honestly, way closer to the optimal than
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I would have thought because of how wonky the optimal was.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: That said, whenever you get a tournament with this many entries,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: it's never surprising.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: When you get a lineup that's close to the optimal.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: What's the difference?
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I can't remember if it's Friar Muth and someone over
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Swift and Trey Harris. And we talked about Swift earlier.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: He wasn't bad. He just wasn't amazing. You could win
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: with him, especially at his ownership. You just weren't winning
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: because of him. Trey Harris was also not good, but
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Hammond and I talked about that on the lead up show.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: You didn't need– now, obviously, you were never playing him
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: if you only got three and a half points, but
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: just a salary play, and it goes back to what
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: we talked about with Antonio Williams and Tesla. It was
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: a pricing play, and it's about the pieces he got
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: around Trey Harris. So, honestly, really similar to the optimal,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: which we talked about earlier, and congrats to him.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a nice line.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just break it down further because, again,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I know this is the other thing people always say, like, yeah,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: well– it got into the optimizer or whatever it might
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: be like, you know, it's an optimized line. It's not
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: like they hand built it. I get it, but I'm
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: saying it were a lot of people watching this, to
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: be honest. And I know from experience of doing this
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: for a few years now, a lot of people are
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: playing like five lineups or less 20 maps. Someone just
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: talked about K rich was back in the mix and said, Hey,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I've been locking Bowers in 20 max.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I'll die in that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're playing other lineups too, but I'm just saying
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of people are playing 20 or less lineups.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are hand building. A lot of
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: people love the hand builder. I think that's why the.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Genting news messed up so many people because I think
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: a lot of people hand-built lineups with Washington expecting him
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: to be the guy and then had to change everything.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: And so like, you know, we have it now at
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Chippenation with the Stone 2.0, right? You could come right
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: in here and say, okay, I want to start with,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm just going to reverse engineer it. But
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: it's like, I want to start with running backs. And
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: who's the good, like, what are the good spots? Well,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: my nun guy is out. Dowdle is out. And I
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: think Gibbs is in the best spot on the slate.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm probably not going to go to that lineup
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: or that game because.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Of, you know, some of my lineups or whatever. Like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just going back to it here now. Okay. So
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: like injury, injury, and I'm just covering this game off.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Now you look at some of the other stuff, Trey Harris,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Demario Douglas, like how do they get to it?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, but like Trey Harris, we know the Douglas
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: one I'll, I'll get to in a second, but just
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: noting this, if you go down to, I think this
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: is sort of by price. So where is Trey? Worst case,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I can just type it in here, but Trey Harris, Right.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: You've got Quentin Johnston out.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: You've got injury stuff going on there. And, you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: you can say, OK, I'm going to plug that in.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: And then it's kind of like just the stack that
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: they put around it. But I think the most interesting
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: thing with like likely going against the commander's defense, who
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: is popular.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: You've got Watson.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: You got a piece of that love game, but you're
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: not getting to everybody there. He's a he's a run
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: back for.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: The Swift stuff. Right.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: So you got Watson in there. And then you go
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: to tight end and you've got likely in there. It's
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: not like all, it's not like these guys weren't popping.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Like we had high, we had high optimal rate and
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: leverage on Isaiah likely.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: And then defense.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I think the jets were one of the most popular
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: on the slate, right? If we just sort by ownership, yeah,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: they were the most popular. And for good reason, probably
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: they're also our most optimal. So let's just say you
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: plug them in. Well, I think this is the difference.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Some people start with quarterback and wide receiver.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: This is out of an optimizer, so I get it,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: but I'm just noting it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: If you were hand building, I think a lot of
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: people do start with a quarterback and a receiver and
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: then see what they can fit.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Why would you not work backwards here?
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Because now imagine you've got this money left and you're
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: just looking at what.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Can I fit?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: And you're looking at these quarterbacks like love would make
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: sense because you got Watson in there and it leaves
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: me forty one hundred.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: And then you can sort my salary and go down
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and say, OK, what does that get me? Do I
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: want any of these guys? Maybe not. Right. I already
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: got Harris in there. Don't see some guys that I want. OK,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do love in this lineup. All right.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Who are some other quarterbacks? I like.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I heard Tambo talk about Drake May. OK, I'm
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: going to go find him in here and see. Let's
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: sort by salary again.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Drake May. That only leaves
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: me 3,500.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's anybody at 3,500. I don't think
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: so though. Oh, wait, the receiver that fits with him.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: That is still a positive leverage and a decent projection
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: for down here. There's nobody in sight with a 9.1
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and a 15 ceiling. And I heard Tambo make up
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: a stupid rap about them on the show yesterday about
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: double D's and pop Douglas going off together. All right.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try that one.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: It's like, If you work backwards from the news of
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: clearly Warren's in a pretty good spot.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Clearly Swift is in a good spot. Clearly Gibbs is
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: in a good spot.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Trey Harris looks to be the wide receiver one there today,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: depending on how news shakes out.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Okay. And then you start working around that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you can just plug in the pieces and find
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: your way there. I'm not saying you would, but it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: more of just a process of elimination and also talking
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: about a strategy where I think a lot of people say, okay,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: I heard I want to play Drake May.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: If I'm going Drake may, that means Bowers and Dobbs.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: All right. Now what running backs fit around him? Oh shoot.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Now I can't get to Gibbs. Maybe I'll have to
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: leave him out, et cetera, et cetera. You wouldn't get
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: to that type of lineup though, in that construction. So
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I just think that's important to think about for the
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: hand builders out there. Anything else you want to add
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: on this winning lineup or portfolio or anything else?
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: No, all really good points. The only thing I'll add
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: is like, it goes back to what I talked about earlier.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: When you play the best plays, it gives you more
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: wiggle room. Like Swift was fine. He wasn't even as
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: good as Braylon Allen, who was cheaper than him. It
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: was also popular, but because the rest of the lineup
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: was so good, it didn't even matter.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, when you put the pieces together,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: when you like pull them off the puzzle, you can
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: see how the puzzle was put together.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Totally with you.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So here's a, here's my 44, 44 lineup that
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I wanted to go over from yesterday.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: This is, I did not cash. It was horrible, but
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: it's just process. So you guys can hear how I
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: think about this stuff. It only put up 138 points.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: We got the news that Jefferson was in and Addison
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: was out. And I was already looking for a spot
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: outside of my Drake May lineup, which is up above,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: did a little bit better, but ended up having the.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Trey Harris injury and didn't have anything get there.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: But I was full fading Detroit, Arizona in my two
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: lineups for this, right? I talked about it and the why,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I've already explained it all. Like I went through that here,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: but just noting it, The thing I loved about the
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray lineup, and I said at the end of
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: the show yesterday with Hoop and Title, what got me
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: excited is... not only was I already wanting to fade
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: the Detroit-Arizona game and try and figure out the magic
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: thread-the-needle lineup that would get me to the top of
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: this when I only had two entries, but I also
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: knew that because, again, going back to understanding the gentee news,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: because of the gentee news, I also knew that now
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: that people didn't have Mike Washington Jr., this is the
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: part I forgot to bring up earlier, where would they
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: find their value?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: It would all be at wide receivers.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Kendrick Bourne, Tesla, Harris, Antonio Williams, multiples though, right? Multiples
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: that they were going to be using. And so I
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: was looking for a way to get a more balanced build.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: And you know what incorporated the most of that? And
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: this thing came out really nice for me pre-lock and
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: even post-lock, but it just didn't finish up post-slate very well.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: But I went with the over stack.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this lineup. I saw this yesterday.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: This lineup is sexy and the Hawkinson injury sucks, but
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: this lineup was put together really well.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: That happened early.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: So it hurt my feelings right out of the gates.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: But what I liked is even with Harris as the one, again,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I thought he was the best.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: He was in the winning Millie lineup, whether you needed
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: him or not. It's not about the result. That is
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: results oriented. So just noting, but it just, obviously it
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: can get there.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't really where I was looking to pick
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: up my ceilings from in this spot, but I was
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: looking to get, you know, some 25s to 30s And
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: if you go back and just think about it, can
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: you get 25 to 30?
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Could have been a lot better. 18. Can you
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: get 25 to 30?
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: You can get almost 40. I'll go more into in
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: a second. You know, could have been better. 21.6. Horrible
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: for Olave, but can he get you 25 to 30?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: He absolutely can, has multiple times. Jefferson, can he? Obviously
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: he can.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: You know, Trey Harris, maybe 20 was probably a cap, maybe.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: 15, 20. But what did we have him for yesterday?
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Let's go back and look, go back to my wide
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: receiver stuff, go up to.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: We had- But it's also like when you're fading the
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Detroit-Arizona game, you can play more guys like Trey Harris
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: because you want to play the best plays at that point.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing I'm saying. You nailed it.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Trey Harris is making, he's instead of Tesla in some
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: spots for a few hundred bucks more, instead of born
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: in some, so he's making those lineups work.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: He's not in these types of lines.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: So notice, I also don't care about the ownerships here,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: like 20, 26, 28, 32, but seven, five, 16 for
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: a stud wide receiver for on Hawkinson, six on the
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: chargers going against Denver in the afternoon. Like I was
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: fine with all this, but just the way my stuff
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: shook out, but just noting it, Kyler, Jefferson, Hawkinson, Jones
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: in a dome, right? And you got, then you got
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Olave on the other side, the balanced wide receivers. Then
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: you still get Warren, Allen, two home running backs in
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: good spots that I liked. You got the Chargers, D Harris.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: There's no correlation there. Just that's where I landed. But
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: just to show it, I wanted to line up like
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: this going in because it didn't have Detroit, Arizona, and
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: it didn't have all of the roster.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Construction pieces the other ones did.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Not many people were playing the balanced running backs and
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: then doing it in a way that could really work
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: and get a back and forth going. I liked that
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: spot for that game yesterday. And if you go back to,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to do one more here. I don't
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: think I have it up yet, so I'll bring it
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: up on the screen in a second.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: If I can find it here.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: And then I'll show them, I'll show my other lineup
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: just because it's just to give another, um, pointer, but
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: don't have it here.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: So I'll go to the other lineup.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: But anyways, just, I liked the spot for Minnesota and
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: new Orleans and I liked it better. Once we got
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: the Addison news and the fact that I could find
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: a way to play Olave and Jefferson in a back
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: and forth without just playing those two could have been
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: something else could end up being a love lineup for sure.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: But the Drake May spot was the other one that
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I liked. I did have the May Bowers Dobbs set up.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I went with Swift, Emmanuel Wilson. I had the Wilson
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Kittle double tight end, right? Still pretty cheap. Got low
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: ownership on him to cross the, cross into this secondary stack.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I played the popular Jets D, a one-off that not
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: many were getting to, another stud wide receiver.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: But you see in these builds, I just didn't.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Want the cheap chalk outside of Harris, who I played
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: twice and I was fine with that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: But going back, I wouldn't change much. Here just didn't
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: get the outcomes that I was looking for.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I liked this lineup better in the end, but this
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: was my other build with Drake May in it.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Did not get to Douglas as much as I liked
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: him as well. And I had a ton of May
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: in my portfolio yesterday with Douglas and stuff.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, injuries suck, as we talked.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: About at the beginning, and I'm with you. Like, when
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: you're fading the obvious best spot, you know, you want
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: to play the best plays around that. I guess my
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: only question to you is, like, and this is a
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: reason I played different yesterday, and I maxed the $ 20
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: and maxed the $ 155 entry instead of playing my normal
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: stuff because I liked the Detroit game so much.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: The stuff I wanted to play, I wanted to.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Max the contest because I wanted to be over– field
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: on that game my question to you is and not
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: even being results oriented when you go into a spot
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: like that and i think it was a total outlier
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: we're not going to see many more spots like that
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: on the year but going in knowing you have two
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: lineups there knowing you don't want to play anything from
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: that game why do you not want to play anything
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: from that game why don't you just like why couldn't
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: you play one.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Piece from that game or two pieces? Why don't, you know,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: just curious.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: You can, that's the thing.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: The answer is you can, for me, it would have
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: been Gibbs and McBride. That's what I kept telling her
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Gibbs and, um, the lions defense.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: But they didn't fit the Kyler build.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I like post, which you weren't like opposed to playing it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: You just like, no, no, no, for sure.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: And I talked about that on leverage lane. I said,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: if I'm going to be playing that game, I said, I,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I actually entertained it. Um, I'll show it actually in
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: a second because we ended up using it for share
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: a ship for shipping games yesterday.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I'll go into the wildcat.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I want to give you to cow, uh, more flowers, uh,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: you as usual, but just, you know, noting, I want
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: to look at his portfolio. People think this is, this
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: is probably one of the coolest ways that you can
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: use DFSOS.com to be able to break it down and
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: see what they do with a full portfolio, right? He
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: played the max 19 lineups and got to the top
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: with one of them, but I will say, if I
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: was playing Brissette lineups yesterday, which were fine, especially once
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: the number of those lineups was at least still going
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: to be held in check some, because no Mike Washington,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: like I said, it wasn't going to balloon up. But
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: just noting it, I would say that I still was
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: talking about it on Leverage Lane.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: That I didn't want McBride and Wilson in them.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: I wanted to play like Brissette, Bourne, And then Amun-Ra
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: or Gibbs keep it skinny and hope that other stuff
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: gets there and then play like Bowers instead of most
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: people have McBride in their Brissette lineups and I'll take
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Bowers to hopefully beat him. And he got there with
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: that insane catch at the end. I'm just saying, it's
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: like there was, I'm looking for ways to build unique
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: against it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: So I could have went there, but once I had
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: the Kyler lineup, I wasn't going there. And the whole
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: point of the.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Drake may lineup was to play Bowers and not McBride.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: And then if I needed something else, like I looked
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: at that lineup, like, could I get to Gibbs and
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Detroit lions defense? And could I have, I'm sure there
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: was a way because I had Jamar chase and, um,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: the jets, but I would have to move other pieces.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: It just didn't fall in.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: And something I talk about a lot too. Like on
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: any given week, there's a lot of good plays.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, the Detroit Arizona game stood out because the
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: total was so high, but that doesn't mean you weren't happy.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Like with the guys that you played, not that you
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: made some rule where you couldn't play any of Detroit
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Arizona game, or you could only play one.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: You just made lineups without that ownership that you liked.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I want to show you one more thing.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Cause we're just, you know, we got time.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: We're just going to be out of here in the
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: next five or 10 minutes, but I would say just
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: to go through it quickly, um, I want to show
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: one more thing on that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Lineup just so I think I have it right here
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: so it won't take long. But if I go back
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to this tab and then we'll go to Yuta next.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: There was a 2v2 here that I entertained. It just
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: didn't I didn't fully love it for whatever reason, but
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I'll give you what it is. And usually I like it,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: but I was fine.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: I really liked having something super unique for the afternoon
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: with like Wilson and Kittle. And I liked having the
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Jamar as just something that nobody was getting to yesterday
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: because it was kind of late.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: I looked at Burrow versions. They weren't good. I looked
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: at Malik Willis versions. They weren't good. And I wasn't
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: going to override where I was at with May. So
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I did opt to take it. So I don't love it.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: But the swap was.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Just so you know, it was Jamar 200 bucks down
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: to Amun-Ra. and in hindsight, I like it better, even
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: though it didn't work out anyway, but just thinking about
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: like roster construction, I would have had a Detroit one-off
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: with a PPR guy that can kind of just catch
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: a bunch of pat.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: He could have been the one-off guy. That's all you need.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: So that's one thing I was thinking about. And it
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: would have got me to, um, moving Wilson down to
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the flex and turning Kittle with that $ 200 from 5,200
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: up to $ 5, 400 Braylon Allen, uh, paired with.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: The defense as a way to do it that way.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Obviously I think it scored almost the same, maybe slightly more.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: It was, I was looking to just get a little
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: bit more unique, but it could have worked. So to
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: your point, could I have played a guy?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: And that's, I would have got to it, but I
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: just kind of got too hung up on that. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: I liked this line of better. It did check out
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: for me. So I went with it, but let's look
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: at you.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Those swaps.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Like I just got like, you know, I, the two
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: for twos, when you're playing limited lineup, that stuff is
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: always so hard. And yeah, My wife, who I'm super
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: close with, she's not a sports fan, doesn't play DFS,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: but has been with me for a long time.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: So understands this stuff.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: And even though no one cares, work harder, she cares.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: So I bitch to her sometimes.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: And her go-to line, and it sounds so easy and cliche.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: She's like, well, if you knew the future, you would
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: have played the better line.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And like, that's just the truth.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: That's why when I talk about it, good point out,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: good call out there and shout out to your wife for,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: you know, care.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: You're not even talking about it in that regard, but I,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I wanted to say that
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: to the universe.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I love it. Cause I said the same thing last year,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: last show you and I did was two weeks ago.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: I might put that clip out later today, but it
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: was the one where a lot of people resonated with it,
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: where it's like, sometimes I say it, but the sign.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: nobody cares work harder it's like i still do care
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: it's just it's like the point is you can bitch
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: about it all you want but you got to move
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: on right the longer you let it linger the worse
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: it's going to be another mindset piece for you but
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: it really is and so um on that note though
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: it's like i that's why i'm only talking about it
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: from a pre-slate process i didn't want i looked at
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: that i had plenty of time i had like 10
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: minutes up to lock and that was what i was
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: finalizing and of do I want this or do I
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: want that? And everything pointed me to wanting the version
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: that I landed on and hoping to get it right
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: from that standpoint, especially if I was already wanting to
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: fade Detroit, Arizona.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm good with it. Let's look at.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: The portfolio for Uticao and just going at it from
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: that perspective. Here's the biggest thing that stands out to
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: me right away. Even with 19 lineups, someone that didn't
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: want to go the Brissette route, right?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: This is, again, like I talk about it, but Malik Willis,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Tyson Bajan, Bo Nix, his exposures that you're looking at.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love, all positive deltas.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Stroud, Winston, the two quarterbacks he's under on, Goff and Brissett.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: And look, play it to each your own. You could
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: have got there with a Brissett lineup. I think it
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: almost did, but it's just the point being when you
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: look at it, this is the lineup that got it done.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: So it was a Jameis Winston lineup, 221 points.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Winston, likely. No run back. Oh, no, Williams. Back to
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the Williams situation again. So there you go. There's your trio.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: You get your secondary stack of Swift and Watson. Uh,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Luther Burton, even in there as a second piece to
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: that game. So you got three points there.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: I'll play Warren one piece of the Detroit, Arizona game.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: You're not on golf or Brissette. What would help slow
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: it down some and just be the one piece that
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: you need. Possibly Gibbs makes sense. Lands on the Vikings
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: D where most were paying up or down. And also
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: they were $ 200 more than Washington who a lot of
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: people were landing on yesterday, especially on FanDuel. I think
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Washington was like 60% owned or something in, in the juggernaut.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: um and played likely with winston against it so um
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you can't land you're not likely to land on the
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: washington d actually the only time you might be in
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: a quarterback lineup is with winston because the you can
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: play winston and the defense against him but not in
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: this lineup not normal so this is the lineup your
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: thoughts on this one but i think just targeted a
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: couple really good spots on the slate that weren't detroit
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: arizona while still making sure he took care of how
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: that game would play out.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: As well yeah so to your original like when you
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: mentioned the exposures and you know, the Brissette Goff, like
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: certainly Goff was close to getting there and Brissette wasn't
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: bad himself, but no matter what, whenever you get that
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: much ownership in a spot in any sport in DFS,
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: it's always easier to get to the top playing different avenues.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: So this is a good example of it. Even though
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: that game got close, other spots were better. And this
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: is a spot that was better and was really low
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: owned because so much ownership flocked to the other spot.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, he's a GOAT. just really, really
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: well done put together. And it goes back to the
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Antonio Williams point, you know, first off, it didn't even
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: matter because of Trey Harris, but even if it had
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: mattered because of the plays he played around Antonio Williams,
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't have mattered anyways.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: So Yeah.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Just really good lineup.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: And just ceiling hunting. Again, you go back to it again.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Remember that, guys, you're looking for ceiling in these tournaments
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: are just so top heavy. Yeah. Second nature to people.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: But I would say this is like, you know, you
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: end up with six point one and eight point nine here.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: But it really doesn't matter because.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: 30, 40, 17 could have been better.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Thirty five, though. 32, 11 for a defense.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's not that great. Like, but you could,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Minnesota could have smashed. They're a really good defense going
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: against the saints. Luther burden could have got 10 more points.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Swift could have got 10 more points. Then you were like,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: it just allowed for so much more. And only Williams
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: was really the guy who, by the way, was still
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: in a good spot of his own, but he didn't
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: just play him as a one-off.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: He built around him. to then allow to fit in
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: the ceilings.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: He covered the Detroit-Arizona game. He got to a unique
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: D that was 200 bucks more than the popular one
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: his stack was against and more than the Jets and all.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: He couldn't play the Jets here. I'm just noting it.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: But targeting this Green Bay-Chicago game from how you could
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: target it. If you're not getting to Love or to Bajent,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: and by the way, he was on Bajent and Love
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: in the other, that's the other thing you got to notice.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Look at his exposures. Love, 11%, Bajan, 16%.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: I know it's not that many lineups because you're looking
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: at 19 total, but my point being, it's not just
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: where you are, it's where you're not. When he's in
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: a Winston lineup, he's covering off the other spots, right?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: He's got those other pieces to those other games. He's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: got the Chicago green Bay game that he's higher on clearly, right?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Nine and a half Delta, four and a half Delta.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Those are built into the Winston lineup. So it's not
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: just magic. This is why I was talking about when
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: I'm building like a portfolio Bellman of saying, okay, People
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: start with their single entry.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I don't though. I've been telling this for years now.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: I build out my portfolio, get 40,000 feet view of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: what looks good and what I like, and then work backwards.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: And so then I know what to account for.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, if I really like this stack or I really
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: like these running backs, What stacks fit around them the best?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Or if I like these stacks, what running backs fit
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: with them? What accounts for what? If I like these
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: four quarterbacks and shit, that's only two games on this
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: slate because it's four quarterbacks from the same two games. Well,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: then what does that mean? Well, it means when I'm
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: building a lineup with my fourth or fifth best quarterback,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I probably want to incorporate the other games because I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: want those. I still really like those games and those pieces.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: How do I fit them in and around that?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Well, look at this one.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift, Watson, and Burden all fit in around the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: three-man game stack. I didn't even look, but I'm imagining
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: it's up there, but we'll see.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Could be wrong. Jameer Gibbs, 84%. Huge Delta. Warren, 58%.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Huge Delta. Well, guess who ended up in his lineup? Gibbs, Warren,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Like it's not magic or rocket science. It's it's that's,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: what's going to look, who's his highest own defense, the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Vikings 20. And then people say like, Oh, of course
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: it's like, but it's just, it's what he was on.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: So I would say it's like, it's not who you play.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: It's how you play them. And people will say, well,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: it is who he played. Because look at all those
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: guys he played. It's whoever he played the most of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: is what ended up in the winning lineups.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: But it's also how he played them. So many people say,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: I'm comfortable doing a Winston-likely Williams stack. But then they
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: start trying to figure out who to put around it.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: It might be right under your nose and right there
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: in front of you. In your portfolio, being able to say, well,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: who else do I like?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not on, I love, I, I let's use
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: like for this one. Cause the, the back and forth,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: I am in on Baygent and love. I like them both.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Well, if you like love or you like Baygent, you
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: probably like the pieces that go with them. All right.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe try plugging some of those in around the rest
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: of your lineup when you're building it. And that could work.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Or I, I really am interested in these running backs
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: because the injury spots are I think Jalen Warren's good
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: because Dowdle's out.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: I think Swift is good because Menungai's out. All right,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: should probably plug them in. Oh, wait, I'm forgetting something.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: There's a game on the slate with a 56 and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: a half point total or whatever it was for Detroit, Arizona.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Not really accounting for that, but you know how I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: am going to account for it? I like Jameer Gibbs
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: and I think he's the guy that's going to do it.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: So let me play Gibbs. Oh, it lands me on
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: my favorite defense.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Sweet, I'm in. Like it's not saying we would.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Get to it ourselves because we didn't, but that's why
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: we do this show. That's why we're trying to learn
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: from this to get better because it can exist. And
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: that thought process can help you.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe you come up short and make a bad, you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: don't come quite as close and you get 180, but
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: 180 could still be great for a certain tournament that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: you're playing in, depending on the contest selection, which is
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: a topic for another day.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: But it's also just more about having a process, having
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: a process, process, process, whatever you call it, to get
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: to something that is your own, where you can say, Hey,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: I know that I've got a process now to be
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: able to move to this type of build. If I'm
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: building single entry, I know how to start from here
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: and work backwards, et cetera. A lot of people don't
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: do that. And then they wonder how they just, I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: just landed on random shit. It kind of just filled
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: my lineup out.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: It looked good. All right.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Well, you could have had something that got you to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: a little bit better spot, not being results oriented. This
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: is his portfolio of 19 lineups in one lineup.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: That's the takeaway for me.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: And for me, like just to kind of tie it
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: all in a ribbon, when we talk about how it's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: easier to get to the top of tournaments when you
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: play lower owned stuff, lower owned plays, lower owned lineup constructions, whatever,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: however you want to put it, it all falls into
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: when we talk about like the Antonio Williams play doesn't
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: matter as much because you have an under 10% owned
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: Christian Watson. If Christian Watson and this lineup were I'm
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: on Ross St. Brown or Trey McBride. And they're the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: ones that had 35. Then that Antonio Williams six would
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: have hurt a lot more. So at the end of
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: the day, we're playing an ownership game and it's important
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: to remember that always.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Yep. A hundred percent, man.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's just, again, expect nothing less really sharp
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: build overall. Again, you see it correlate throughout when he
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: goes to the Malik washing the Malik squared lineup over
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: here with Jamar chase. I told you I entertained something
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: like this, but look what he gets to fit in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: around it.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Right? He still, he gets to fit in the Gibbs McBride.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: We talked about that on leverage lane.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: What was the most likely way to get a piece
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: of that game where it's just run, run, run the clock.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: catch nine balls and fall on it. Maybe catch a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: touchdown or three of Quentin Tarantino himself. Doesn't come through
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: and get two of them. I know it's not how
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: you say his name, but basically the same guy play
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the popular.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: He got two.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Here's the secondary stack.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: He's in on Winston. So why not play Williams and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: likely again, not on the commander's D. So you got
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: likely against it while you're on the jets for 200 bucks,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: less still popular.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Who cares? But 192, not good enough to win, but
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: good enough to come 12th.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: And again, Like some of these guys didn't do anything really.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: They just kind of gave you mediocre outputs. 12, 19
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: from a Jamar chase 21. These, this is like really
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: balanced scoring. It just didn't get there, but just to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: show it, that's the same. That's in his portfolio. Usually
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: don't do a bunch of season long stuff, but, um, Kyle.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: This one's pretty straightforward.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: If you got Josh Allen, you're in good shape already,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: but you would start Shakir because you want to maximize that.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: You want to hope that Shakir catches the touchdown. You
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: get double the points, right? You're getting the Shakir points
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: mixed with the Kyle. But yeah, Nate's brought up a
• 1:06:49
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• 1:07:27
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• 1:07:29
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  Speaker 2: I know we always do a bit of a single
• 1:07:32
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• 1:07:33
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• 1:07:35
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