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- 0:25Speaker 1: You and everybody. Welcome to another edition to the Sports Exchange.
- 0:27Speaker 1: My name is Scott Morgan off Kota City, mad Mouth.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Great crew lined up. We have Marvin, we have Candy,
- 0:33Speaker 1: we had Jacob, we have Scott, and we have Tommy.
- 0:37Speaker 1: All right, obviously those are the introductions. I know, we
- 0:40Speaker 1: want to get to an awful lot and so let's
- 0:43Speaker 1: not let's get right to it. First of all, we'll
- 0:45Speaker 1: start off on a non sports topic. Disney lost one
- 0:48Speaker 1: point seven million subscribers during Jimmy Kimmel's suspension. This comes
- 0:52Speaker 1: from kt LA Marvin. Some thoughts about Jimmy Kimmel and
- 0:56Speaker 1: what took place over there.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Well, it's not the one point three million subscriptions. It's
- 1:01Speaker 2: the fifty bucks a month that those subscribers are paying.
- 1:06Speaker 2: That that that hit them hard.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:08Speaker 4: Uh.
- 1:08Speaker 2: This whole thing with Trump, you know, intervening and trying
- 1:12Speaker 2: to use his force and influence.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Uh, it hurt Disney, hurt him bad. And now they've
- 1:18Speaker 3: got to.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Try to recoup I think it's like three hundred million
- 1:21Speaker 2: dollars or something like that they lost, you know what
- 1:22Speaker 2: I mean, their stocks fell, and yeah, it was it
- 1:25Speaker 2: was horrible man. So you know Hopefully they they can
- 1:28Speaker 2: refrain from, you know, pounding down to a political pressure. Unfortunately,
- 1:33Speaker 2: forty five forty seven has a lot of power, a
- 1:36Speaker 2: lot of influence, and you know, you see these major
- 1:39Speaker 2: major corporations you know impacted. You know what I'm saying,
- 1:42Speaker 2: just fearful of how he can impact them. So Jimmy Kimmell, listen,
- 1:46Speaker 2: he has a huge following. When he came back, it was,
- 1:48Speaker 2: it was they had big numbers. Hopefully they can recoup
- 1:51Speaker 2: that money, man, but they took a hit.
- 1:54Speaker 1: KD.
- 1:56Speaker 5: You know, it's amazing because he would suspend it for
- 2:00Speaker 5: less than a week in mid September, and the amount
- 2:05Speaker 5: of cancelations that they're they're saying that the turn rates
- 2:09Speaker 5: doubling in millions of cancelations, although they also saw some
- 2:13Speaker 5: new sign ups as well, leading to a debate over
- 2:17Speaker 5: the net impact of and highlighting cultural issues affecting business.
- 2:23Speaker 6: Study.
- 2:24Speaker 5: There's gonna be great a lot of studies being done on,
- 2:28Speaker 5: you know, the cancelations that they suffered during Jimmy Kimmel's suspension.
- 2:36Speaker 7: Tommy, uh, you know, I've been watching him more than
- 2:44Speaker 7: ever now and the commentary he has on Trump each
- 2:49Speaker 7: night is just just.
- 2:53Speaker 8: Hits the nail on the head every day about what
- 2:56Speaker 8: a con man this guy is and what a petty,
- 3:01Speaker 8: pathetic person he is, And it's great to see the
- 3:06Speaker 8: republic respond, the public respond.
- 3:09Speaker 9: The way it did.
- 3:10Speaker 8: It just makes Bezos and Zuckerberg and all these other
- 3:15Speaker 8: guys who are just we're chasing a dollar look more
- 3:19Speaker 8: and more like cowards. All these Republican congressman and senators,
- 3:25Speaker 8: they're all cowards.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Tony tell you what I'll go. I'll repeat it sentiment.
- 3:31Speaker 1: It good to see it's home. Okay. Disney lost one
- 3:35Speaker 1: point to a million subscribers when Jimmy Kimmel was suspended.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Any thoughts on this.
- 3:42Speaker 9: It just shows the power of the people when they unite,
- 3:45Speaker 9: and it shows that we can affect a dollar. And
- 3:48Speaker 9: those companies care a lot about the dollar. So if
- 3:52Speaker 9: a group of people can show how much they care
- 3:54Speaker 9: about a certain thing, we can hit them.
- 3:56Speaker 10: Wear it hurts, Jacob Tommy, I'll bring one part. This
- 4:01Speaker 10: is a two part thing I'm gonna say on this.
- 4:03Speaker 10: I'll bring one part onto the deal. The thing that
- 4:06Speaker 10: hurt hate doesn't hurt Trump. Tommy, hate doesn't, and ignoring
- 4:12Speaker 10: him hurts He Ignoring him hurts him. Hate does and
- 4:15Speaker 10: bringing him up all the time, it doesn't. I mean,
- 4:18Speaker 10: bringing them up all the time just helps him. He
- 4:20Speaker 10: just as much as he complains and gripes and everything.
- 4:24Speaker 10: The thing that helps him the most is continue to
- 4:26Speaker 10: keep his name out there. I brought up a I
- 4:29Speaker 10: brought up a hashtag a little while of that called
- 4:30Speaker 10: ignore forty seven. I wish it would continue. But the
- 4:33Speaker 10: biggest thing I think about is Johnny Carson during the
- 4:36Speaker 10: time saying that he doesn't want to lose fifty percent
- 4:38Speaker 10: of his audience. The one, the one, uh, let's the
- 4:43Speaker 10: talk show that understands and tries to do and goes
- 4:46Speaker 10: as minor as possible. Yeah, make fun of Trump all
- 4:49Speaker 10: day long. The guys weren't well worth it, but make
- 4:51Speaker 10: fun of everybody. The one that figures that out and
- 4:53Speaker 10: does real comedy and does everything like that will be
- 4:56Speaker 10: number one by fifty million miles. And as far as
- 5:00Speaker 10: Disney goes, it is like Target. Target had the whole
- 5:04Speaker 10: thing with the with the whole of swimsuits for the
- 5:08Speaker 10: trans and then people threw a fit, and then they
- 5:11Speaker 10: they gave up their stuff, and then they they caved in,
- 5:15Speaker 10: and then and didn't guess what the left side of
- 5:18Speaker 10: the wing once they caved in on that, gave that up,
- 5:21Speaker 10: So then they're in trouble.
- 5:23Speaker 4: Target's trouble. So it is Disney.
- 5:25Speaker 10: Make up your mind and do your thing. Which audience
- 5:28Speaker 10: are you going to get? That's all I have to
- 5:29Speaker 10: say with that, Scott.
- 5:32Speaker 6: Donald Trump is by far the worst president journalists and
- 5:37Speaker 6: media have ever had. I am a First Amendment absolutist.
- 5:42Speaker 6: Anytime you try to crush the First Amendment or bend
- 5:46Speaker 6: it in any sort of way, shape, or fashion, I'm
- 5:50Speaker 6: dead against it. As far as I'm concerned, Donald Trump
- 5:53Speaker 6: is the worst. Disney deserves what they got because they
- 5:58Speaker 6: put up with it, did lose more money.
- 6:03Speaker 1: I like your out spoken opinions, Scott. Great stuff, man,
- 6:07Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you. Okay. The Brooklyn Nets have a
- 6:09Speaker 1: que have advised Michael Porter Junior to steer clear of
- 6:13Speaker 1: certain types of topics when he does podcasts. His response,
- 6:17Speaker 1: for the most part is I'm chilling. I'm not trying
- 6:20Speaker 1: to say anything crazy anymore. Current packer and Michael Persons
- 6:25Speaker 1: is very active when it came to doing podcasts. All right, Marvin,
- 6:29Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the next telling? Michael Porter
- 6:32Speaker 1: junior to cool it.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Can you imagine employers telling their employees, hey, listen to
- 6:37Speaker 2: all you guys who grew up in the digital age
- 6:40Speaker 2: and post two thousand, who have YouTube channels and all this,
- 6:43Speaker 2: stop doing all that, all right, stop doing it and
- 6:46Speaker 2: stop talking about this, stop talking about that. That's how
- 6:49Speaker 2: I look at this. What what right do the Brooklyn
- 6:51Speaker 2: Nets have to tell their employee, you know what he
- 6:54Speaker 2: can do in his off time in regards to how
- 6:56Speaker 2: he makes money. We live in the digital age. He
- 6:58Speaker 2: makes money online. What I'm saying, so, you know, I
- 7:01Speaker 2: think that's just hogwatshed, to be honest with you. On
- 7:04Speaker 2: the other end, I understand that this is a major corporation.
- 7:08Speaker 5: Uh.
- 7:08Speaker 2: He's the face of the organization and what they don't
- 7:10Speaker 2: want is him saying something of being a part of
- 7:13Speaker 2: anything that can have a negative impact on him. They're
- 7:16Speaker 2: a brand, their ability to play him, trade him, or
- 7:20Speaker 2: whatever they're gonna do. Uh, they're they're afraid of drama.
- 7:23Speaker 2: They're afraid of the surface coming to town because they're young,
- 7:25Speaker 2: outspoken superstar may say something. I get their perspective, but
- 7:29Speaker 2: they're definitely over the line on this. They let that
- 7:33Speaker 2: man make his money like everybody else, you know, And
- 7:36Speaker 2: the last thing I want to see are you know
- 7:38Speaker 2: in New CBA see nf NBA players not allowed to
- 7:42Speaker 2: have podcasts, are not allowed to do certain things on
- 7:45Speaker 2: social media. It's a real slippery slope. I understand it,
- 7:48Speaker 2: but I think they're in the wrong for that.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Katy.
- 7:53Speaker 5: This is this is a tough topic because as UH
- 7:58Speaker 5: an employer or being employed by certain entity's businesses, do
- 8:06Speaker 5: they have the right to tell you what you can
- 8:08Speaker 5: talk about on a podcast or outside of your normal hours,
- 8:14Speaker 5: but you are you do represent that organization even in
- 8:19Speaker 5: your off time, and I get to a certain extent,
- 8:24Speaker 5: the Brooklyn Nuts telling him what they they have told them. Now,
- 8:31Speaker 5: with that being said, because of social media, so many
- 8:33Speaker 5: things can get blown up. The other thing that we
- 8:37Speaker 5: have seen is it's so much it's so easy to
- 8:40Speaker 5: edit videos and things, and that's where we really get
- 8:45Speaker 5: into problems because now I can go out there and
- 8:48Speaker 5: edit a video and make it seem like somebody said
- 8:51Speaker 5: something and maybe they said the complete opposite because I,
- 8:55Speaker 5: you know, put it and took out a know or
- 8:58Speaker 5: something else. So it's just really hard in this new
- 9:03Speaker 5: digital age of media to say what you can and
- 9:07Speaker 5: can't say, but I can see both sides.
- 9:11Speaker 8: Do you think, Tommy, I was just looking up to
- 9:15Speaker 8: see who the owner of the nets is. Joe Si,
- 9:19Speaker 8: Taiwanese Canadian billionaire. I think I would think that any
- 9:24Speaker 8: guy from Taiwan who didn't understand, you know what an autocrat,
- 9:29Speaker 8: autocratic country run by an autocrat.
- 9:34Speaker 6: I hope he sticks to his guns. Porter.
- 9:37Speaker 8: You know, nobody told me. I don't know how much
- 9:40Speaker 8: wade he has behind him. I'm sure another team would
- 9:43Speaker 8: pick him up. But Mike, Bill Russell always spoke his mind,
- 9:49Speaker 8: Kareem always spoke his mind, Bill Walton always spoke his mine.
- 9:54Speaker 8: You know, you weren't going to get rid of those guys.
- 9:58Speaker 8: So I hope he sticks to his goods totally.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:04Speaker 9: I mean it's a slippery slope telling anybody to not,
- 10:09Speaker 9: you know, speak their mind freely. But Michael Porter Jr.
- 10:12Speaker 9: Is in a unique situation where his brother is one
- 10:15Speaker 9: of the first and it looks like many or a
- 10:18Speaker 9: few that are coming down there for sports gambling. And
- 10:22Speaker 9: I know that has been a topic on podcast that
- 10:24Speaker 9: he's been on, and you know, you just don't want
- 10:28Speaker 9: to be that's your brother, you know, what I'm saying,
- 10:30Speaker 9: So you're already close to the situation, you kind of
- 10:33Speaker 9: want to steer clear from even talking about it and
- 10:35Speaker 9: maybe slipping up and saying the wrong thing. He has
- 10:39Speaker 9: had said certain things about like the LGBT community, and
- 10:44Speaker 9: I feel like, you know whatever with that. But I
- 10:46Speaker 9: think most of it is about the sports gambling, and
- 10:48Speaker 9: that's why it's came up now recently, now that the
- 10:51Speaker 9: NBA is cracking down on that, they want to make
- 10:54Speaker 9: sure that he's just not out there talking freely since
- 10:56Speaker 9: he's so close to that situation, take him.
- 11:01Speaker 10: You know what started this whole thing, and we saw
- 11:03Speaker 10: it on the news in the first place. The biggest
- 11:05Speaker 10: thing that started it is the fact that he said
- 11:08Speaker 10: that w NBA players would not stand until the chance
- 11:11Speaker 10: that they drove into the lane on NBA players. So
- 11:14Speaker 10: if you cutting him, agreed with it. But all of
- 11:16Speaker 10: a sudden, everybody's throwing a fit over it. But meanwhile,
- 11:20Speaker 10: you know what we've had in the last week or so,
- 11:22Speaker 10: We had Nick Kyrios absolutely annihilate the number one woman's
- 11:26Speaker 10: player in the world, and it gave her three games.
- 11:29Speaker 10: I mean, they even had all the rules in the
- 11:31Speaker 10: world to make it make it. She got one to serve.
- 11:34Speaker 10: They both got served, but she had wider things all that,
- 11:37Speaker 10: and he annihilated her. And we've seen this and it
- 11:40Speaker 10: was strength. And it doesn't mean she's any less of
- 11:41Speaker 10: a number one. It is the fact that Michael Porter
- 11:45Speaker 10: was telling the truth of the strength of men versus women,
- 11:48Speaker 10: and the NBA.
- 11:49Speaker 4: Is just scared to doath scared.
- 11:53Speaker 10: And that's what caused all this, and it is like
- 11:55Speaker 10: they need to get the reality of all this. It
- 11:58Speaker 10: doesn't make the WNBA any life, as it doesn't make
- 12:00Speaker 10: the many of US athletes.
- 12:01Speaker 4: It's called biology.
- 12:05Speaker 6: Scott Scott unless he is directly adversely affecting the Brooklyn
- 12:12Speaker 6: Nets brand, the logo, the team. They have no right
- 12:21Speaker 6: to interfere with what he has to say on his podcast.
- 12:25Speaker 6: He has every right to go ahead and speak his mind. Again,
- 12:30Speaker 6: that's the first amendment absolutist in me coming out. But
- 12:34Speaker 6: who are they to say that he can't talk about
- 12:37Speaker 6: the w NBA and they can't drive through the lane.
- 12:41Speaker 6: They can't. It's just not possible. You think Caitlyn Clark
- 12:47Speaker 6: is going to be able to drive through the lane
- 12:49Speaker 6: against even if you take one of the rookies tat.
- 12:53Speaker 4: Let's just say it, Victor Wegbanuema.
- 12:55Speaker 6: Yeah, you think she's gonna be able to get past him,
- 13:00Speaker 6: should be laying on the floor for a month.
- 13:03Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 13:04Speaker 6: He's entitled to see what he wants and I'm gonna
- 13:07Speaker 6: fight for it.
- 13:10Speaker 1: I don't be the luck to fight for I have
- 13:12Speaker 1: a feeling and be treated by the deadline anyways. But
- 13:14Speaker 1: I understand that keep in the mind with Candy said though,
- 13:17Speaker 1: these things to definitely go ahead and be edited as well.
- 13:21Speaker 1: So I understand where club is trying to protect what
- 13:23Speaker 1: they're doing. But they and that's need to focus not
- 13:26Speaker 1: on his podcast. They need to make sure they put
- 13:28Speaker 1: together a pretty good product in the field or court
- 13:31Speaker 1: so that the Barclays Center is definitely filled up. That
- 13:35Speaker 1: is what they need to do. So if that said,
- 13:37Speaker 1: we're going to go to another non sports topic, one
- 13:39Speaker 1: that I actually really go by, and we're going to
- 13:42Speaker 1: talk about the sketcher's story a little bit. And here's this.
- 13:46Speaker 1: A lot of people, I tell you, I wear them.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I spent a ton of money on those. Shoot, that's
- 13:50Speaker 1: the only way I can go by with my busted
- 13:52Speaker 1: up knees and ankles. So we must have a little
- 13:55Speaker 1: bit of fun with this topic. Thatchers they don't sign
- 13:58Speaker 1: expensive sports stars what they actually do. Instead, they use
- 14:01Speaker 1: celebrities like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. In the early
- 14:05Speaker 1: two thousands, the goal wasn't mass appeal, not niche prestige.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Let's continue on. By the med two thousand, Sketchers shifted
- 14:13Speaker 1: focused again, this time to comfort. They launched that relaxed
- 14:18Speaker 1: fit and memory phone shoes a worked, Sales exploded. Sketchers
- 14:24Speaker 1: kept pricing low and style simple. Their shoes weren't flashy,
- 14:28Speaker 1: but they were comfortable, durable, and affordable. That's what people wanted.
- 14:33Speaker 1: They also built a strong retail presence. Instead of relying
- 14:36Speaker 1: on big stores, Sketchers opened its own branded outlets. Not
- 14:40Speaker 1: only Knows Candy and I have been there a few times.
- 14:43Speaker 1: More control, more margin. In twenty Twelvey launched to Go Walk,
- 14:48Speaker 1: a walking shoe line focused on comfort. It became one
- 14:52Speaker 1: of the best selling products ever. They kept innovating, but
- 14:55Speaker 1: only when it matched their brand. Continue on today's sales
- 15:00Speaker 1: and they sell in one hundred and seventy countries. They
- 15:04Speaker 1: move more pairs and most high profile sneaker brands all
- 15:08Speaker 1: without the hype as we continue. While others chase limited
- 15:15Speaker 1: drops and endorsement, Sketchers focuses on families, workers, and older adults.
- 15:19Speaker 1: The strategy made them a global powerhouse. Sketchers proved that
- 15:23Speaker 1: you don't need to be cool to be successful. You
- 15:26Speaker 1: need to understand your customer and deliver what they want.
- 15:30Speaker 1: From founder, from founder to eight billion dollar brand. Robert
- 15:35Speaker 1: Greenberg did try to beat Nike. Okay, he built something
- 15:39Speaker 1: that that was totally different and it worked. So with
- 15:43Speaker 1: that said, I've given you everything, Marvel, what are your
- 15:45Speaker 1: talks about Sketchers?
- 15:48Speaker 2: To me, this sounds like a lesson in how to survive,
- 15:50Speaker 2: how to evolve. That's I mean, Sketchers did a phenomenal
- 15:54Speaker 2: job of that. And because they're right, you know, all
- 15:58Speaker 2: the marketing all you see in here are these big
- 16:00Speaker 2: name athletes and the Nikes in the rebox, you know,
- 16:03Speaker 2: and the Adidas you know. Addressing the senior market is huge,
- 16:08Speaker 2: as as a huge market period. I've been there before,
- 16:11Speaker 2: you know, and I think Nike's perceived as as expensive
- 16:15Speaker 2: by definitely senior groups. I would say, so Sketchers coming
- 16:19Speaker 2: in there taking advantage of that. His genius, you know,
- 16:21Speaker 2: changing this shoe evolving his shoe given. You know, trying
- 16:25Speaker 2: to stay within a certain price point makes a lot
- 16:27Speaker 2: of sense in a world where you got brand new
- 16:30Speaker 2: shoes selling for thousands of dollars, you know, Yeezys and Jordans.
- 16:33Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable what they're going for.
- 16:36Speaker 2: So yeah, again, a lesson in survival, Kudos and Sketchers, Jenny.
- 16:43Speaker 5: So part of the part of the advertisements that they
- 16:49Speaker 5: have done, they have included baseball player Clayton Kershaw, boxer
- 16:54Speaker 5: Sugar Ray Leonard, American football players Joe Montana, Tony Romo,
- 16:59Speaker 5: Howie Long, Chris Carter. Since twenty ten, Sketchers has been
- 17:05Speaker 5: a regular Super Bowl advertiser. One of the other things
- 17:11Speaker 5: I'll say is the performance has featured distance runners, professional golfers.
- 17:19Speaker 5: The brand expanded into pickleball in twenty twenty two, signing
- 17:23Speaker 5: several of the sport's top players and sponsoring the first
- 17:27Speaker 5: nationally televised pickball tournament in the US. And we know
- 17:31Speaker 5: that that has really grown. And twenty twenty three, Sketchers
- 17:35Speaker 5: announced a move into soccer and basketball and introducing new
- 17:40Speaker 5: technical shoes worn and promoted by England national football team
- 17:44Speaker 5: player Harry Kane and NBA players Julius Randall, Terrence Mann
- 17:49Speaker 5: and Joel Embiid. In twenty twenty four, Sketchers replaced Nivia
- 17:54Speaker 5: Sports as the kids sponsor of one of India's oldest
- 17:57Speaker 5: and most successful football team. I can tell you from
- 18:03Speaker 5: a personal experience, I am somebody that for the most
- 18:08Speaker 5: for a lot of my day, I'm standing on my feet,
- 18:11Speaker 5: and I can tell you I've worn all kinds of
- 18:14Speaker 5: different shoes, and I've often had come home with feet problems,
- 18:20Speaker 5: my legs ached. I switched to Sketchers a couple of
- 18:24Speaker 5: years ago, and I no longer have any pain. I
- 18:27Speaker 5: come home, My feet don't ache, my legs don't bother me.
- 18:33Speaker 5: So I will stand by their shoes, you know, knowing
- 18:38Speaker 5: that I stand on my legs all day and don't
- 18:41Speaker 5: have problems now that I've switched to Sketchers.
- 18:45Speaker 1: All right, Tommy, I'm trying to see you some shoes.
- 18:47Speaker 1: But boy, these are pretty good. I'm living prof I
- 18:51Speaker 1: have to. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. I mean,
- 18:54Speaker 1: I've taken a beating over the ears, but these are
- 18:56Speaker 1: pretty good.
- 18:58Speaker 8: Yeah, they have a good advertising campaign. Howy long runs
- 19:04Speaker 8: stick out in my mind. If they can cut into
- 19:08Speaker 8: Nike's market.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Great.
- 19:10Speaker 8: I've been anti Nike ever since. Michael Jordan's said Republicans
- 19:14Speaker 8: buy shoes too. When he was asked to endorse a
- 19:18Speaker 8: Kennedy running against Jesse Helps, a North Carolina senator who
- 19:25Speaker 8: is a segregation Jordan couldn't stand up and do anything
- 19:29Speaker 8: but say, Republicans buy shoes too.
- 19:35Speaker 9: Tony, I'm with Marvin Man. It's definitely a lesson of survival.
- 19:41Speaker 9: It's cool to see what sketches have become to like
- 19:44Speaker 9: a cool popular shoe once you get Snoop Dogg involved.
- 19:47Speaker 9: I got an eight year old daughter and one day
- 19:49Speaker 9: she saw Snoop Dogg on TV and said, I know
- 19:51Speaker 9: it's a big deal. Now, okay, So once you get
- 19:54Speaker 9: Snoop dog involved, you're doing something big and sketchers and
- 19:58Speaker 9: what like Candy echoed and read, I mean like Candy Red.
- 20:01Speaker 9: Now they are going into the sports. I saw I
- 20:04Speaker 9: see Julius Randall's wear his shoes. Joe ellenb is a
- 20:07Speaker 9: former m v P wearing his shoes. Terrence Man is
- 20:09Speaker 9: not just another guy. He's the starting point guard in
- 20:12Speaker 9: the league. So kids being able to see NBA players
- 20:15Speaker 9: wearing those shoes. That's going to get them into more
- 20:18Speaker 9: of the cool factor as well. Uh, yes, we got
- 20:24Speaker 9: some work to do once week once the show is over.
- 20:28Speaker 1: She's just and she knows I'm a very tough person
- 20:31Speaker 1: to look after with all the accent pains I have,
- 20:35Speaker 1: right Solomon, after all, he gets the updates from uh,
- 20:38Speaker 1: the boss. Lots of time solom in those first hand.
- 20:43Speaker 1: But yeah, no, what else can I say anything? You
- 20:46Speaker 1: don't want to add to what? Tony? You're really a
- 20:48Speaker 1: rising start on this platform.
- 20:50Speaker 9: I appreciate that, But no, that's all. That's it, you know,
- 20:54Speaker 9: just uh them them getting these NBA players, that's that's
- 20:58Speaker 9: the transition into them probably taking more of a step
- 21:02Speaker 9: into the NBA now in athletes take them.
- 21:09Speaker 10: Well, for one thing, some of the names that you named,
- 21:12Speaker 10: Joe Montana, Tony Romo, all of those you know how
- 21:14Speaker 10: you long older people, older athletes their feet are their
- 21:19Speaker 10: feet are absolutely crushed.
- 21:20Speaker 4: They need the comfort.
- 21:22Speaker 10: Now you bring up Joe l Embiid and the Julius
- 21:25Speaker 10: Randall their seat are ridiculous, you'll know who else you
- 21:28Speaker 10: should probably get. If he wasn't with with on with
- 21:31Speaker 10: the on project. Roger Federer, but he's got his own
- 21:34Speaker 10: thing that he's invested in on. You've got those. It's
- 21:37Speaker 10: like tennis players. You should see more because their feet
- 21:39Speaker 10: are destroyed so really by itself. This is the thing
- 21:43Speaker 10: Sketchers hadn't understand that older people live longer now, so
- 21:46Speaker 10: you've got to get it toward the older people. You
- 21:48Speaker 10: couldn't head it for Grandpa Walton back in the nineteen twenties.
- 21:51Speaker 10: He died at sixty six years old. Now everybody is now,
- 21:55Speaker 10: everybody's living in eighty and ninety and they're all walking
- 21:58Speaker 10: and they're doing I mean you're seeing I brought up
- 22:01Speaker 10: with Grandpa Dina, like sixty six years old.
- 22:03Speaker 4: Sixty six year old.
- 22:04Speaker 10: They're now doing American Ninjel Warrior, Different world, different day.
- 22:08Speaker 10: So Sketchers understood this a long time ago and to
- 22:10Speaker 10: understanding now, Scott.
- 22:14Speaker 6: The thing I like about Sketchers advertising campaign is they're
- 22:18Speaker 6: not in your face. They advertise their product, but they
- 22:22Speaker 6: don't constantly barrage you with their shoes, and they have
- 22:29Speaker 6: you know, if this guy wears them, then you want
- 22:31Speaker 6: to wear them because you want to be cool. You
- 22:33Speaker 6: want to be like Mike. You know, they don't get
- 22:37Speaker 6: into that. I know my parents both wear Sketchers and
- 22:42Speaker 6: swear by them. Hope is probably just as nice. They're
- 22:48Speaker 6: more expensive, but Sketches makes a great product and they
- 22:54Speaker 6: stand by their product. We've brought a couple of pairs
- 22:57Speaker 6: back that we're just bad fits, and they took them back,
- 23:03Speaker 6: and uh, you're right. They do use older athletes because
- 23:08Speaker 6: they're appealing to older people. And I think it's I
- 23:12Speaker 6: think it's nice. I hope you're not saying I'm all got.
- 23:18Speaker 4: Well, I might say that that was kidd.
- 23:21Speaker 6: I'm staying out of that.
- 23:24Speaker 5: The one other things I would like to would like
- 23:26Speaker 5: to say is that they are. Their headquarters is in
- 23:30Speaker 5: Manhattan Beach, California, So they are. They have five thousand,
- 23:35Speaker 5: two hundred and ninety six locations. Their total assets are
- 23:40Speaker 5: eight point four or five billion dollars, approximately over twenty
- 23:45Speaker 5: thousand employees that they employ. And Sketchers was founded in
- 23:51Speaker 5: nineteen ninety two by Robert Greenberg, who had previously founded
- 23:56Speaker 5: La Gear back in nineteen eighty three.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Great, so we to our statistician, Candy, I will continue one.
- 24:08Speaker 5: One last thing. They do donate new shoes to children
- 24:12Speaker 5: in need worldwide through its Bob's Charity program and through
- 24:16Speaker 5: head start programs. They've in twenty twenty four they donated
- 24:21Speaker 5: twenty thousand dollars to Austin high school men and women's
- 24:24Speaker 5: soccer teams. So they do do philanthropy as well.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's continue on Russell Westbrook. Actually, how much
- 24:36Speaker 1: since he love the NBA. I'll tell you what. The
- 24:39Speaker 1: NBA offered him three point six million to play eighty
- 24:41Speaker 1: two games. China offered them ten million for a twenty
- 24:44Speaker 1: post games. You think China one of them? Bad? Marvin,
- 24:47Speaker 1: I would say, so.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Listen, uh, in America, where you're taught to get money,
- 24:52Speaker 2: everything's about money. It's celebrate and pop culture and hip
- 24:57Speaker 2: hop and all the things that a lot of these
- 24:59Speaker 2: young guys listen to. The fact that he turned down
- 25:02Speaker 2: ten mil to take three meal and did it not
- 25:06Speaker 2: not to go you know, to LA or New York,
- 25:08Speaker 2: or go play for a contender, to go to the
- 25:11Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings. The fact that he turned that money on
- 25:14Speaker 2: to go to the Kings tells you this guy is
- 25:17Speaker 2: serious about you know, NBA basketball. He loves playing in
- 25:21Speaker 2: the league at the highest levels, the best basketball in
- 25:23Speaker 2: the world. You know, the opportunity to play in the league,
- 25:26Speaker 2: and you know, at the beginning of the year, everybody's
- 25:29Speaker 2: talking about, you know, we're gonna win a championship. But obviously,
- 25:32Speaker 2: you know with Sacramona Kings, you look at their roster
- 25:34Speaker 2: and their makeup, they're not built for that. This guy
- 25:37Speaker 2: knew that a tough year was coming. And yet if
- 25:40Speaker 2: you watch him play, this guy's playing all out. He's
- 25:42Speaker 2: given you great minutes. He's moving up the moving up
- 25:45Speaker 2: the charts in regards to triple doubles. And there's nothing
- 25:49Speaker 2: about him that you would know what I mean, he's
- 25:50Speaker 2: in his seventeenth year, you know what I'm saying. This
- 25:52Speaker 2: guy's in his mid to late thirties. That's O for basketball.
- 25:54Speaker 2: It's really old, you know. But this guy's giving you
- 25:57Speaker 2: high quality minutes. He's still giving you high effort. And
- 26:00Speaker 2: this is this is what fans should love to see.
- 26:03Speaker 3: You know.
- 26:03Speaker 2: There's so much press about, so much negative press about
- 26:05Speaker 2: players and money and this and that. This is a
- 26:08Speaker 2: guy who at the end of the rope, is taking
- 26:11Speaker 2: pretty much minimum wage to play the game he loves
- 26:14Speaker 2: and he's playing at a high level. So he's a
- 26:16Speaker 2: great story, great role model for kids. Even though he
- 26:20Speaker 2: went to UCLA. I can say that I admired his dude,
- 26:23Speaker 2: and I'm a fan.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Candy.
- 26:27Speaker 5: He is a nine time NBA All Star. He is
- 26:32Speaker 5: a wife and three children, one gon two and twin daughters.
- 26:37Speaker 5: I understand him probably taking less money to stay here
- 26:42Speaker 5: instead of uprooting his whole family and moving them. Even
- 26:46Speaker 5: if it is less money, He's probably earned how much
- 26:48Speaker 5: money already, and if he's smart and has invested it,
- 26:55Speaker 5: it'll last for him and his family that he doesn't
- 26:58Speaker 5: need the difference.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Tommy, Yeah, that's an interesting story.
- 27:05Speaker 3: More power to him.
- 27:07Speaker 8: I don't really have much state I have to it.
- 27:09Speaker 1: That's okay, no problem. Got to feel the things you're
- 27:11Speaker 1: gonna plenty to say.
- 27:12Speaker 7: Onybody ever turned down that money.
- 27:15Speaker 3: More power to.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Okay, Tony.
- 27:19Speaker 9: Everything I've seen from Russell Westbrook shows that he's family first.
- 27:23Speaker 9: So like him being able to stay even though it
- 27:26Speaker 9: is Sacramento. I feel you, Marvin, but he's still in
- 27:28Speaker 9: California where he's from. That's a whole lot closer than China,
- 27:32Speaker 9: someone who he's He's made the Supermax contract a couple
- 27:35Speaker 9: of times, so he's made a lot of money in
- 27:37Speaker 9: the NBA, at least one contract was over two hundred
- 27:41Speaker 9: million dollars. He I know, you want to make as
- 27:45Speaker 9: much as possible, but if anybody can afford to take
- 27:47Speaker 9: the paker, he's one of the people who can. Especially
- 27:49Speaker 9: with family being first for him. I think that was
- 27:51Speaker 9: probably the deciding factor more than anything. But I will
- 27:54Speaker 9: say this me personally, I'm going to China. I'm playing
- 27:57Speaker 9: those twenty games, and then I'm coming back as a
- 27:59Speaker 9: free agency in I'm double davy.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Smart businessman told me, all right, Jacob.
- 28:07Speaker 10: Now here's the thing with Russell Westbrook. For a second,
- 28:10Speaker 10: this reminds me of the story of Darryl Strawberry when
- 28:13Speaker 10: he was making this comeback. Two hundred some odd teams
- 28:16Speaker 10: didn't take him, and he finally got an independent league
- 28:19Speaker 10: to take him. He hits four thirty five and he
- 28:21Speaker 10: gets a chance again with the Yankees. That's what Western
- 28:24Speaker 10: Westbrook would be if he was in China. He probably
- 28:26Speaker 10: averaged forty five to fifty points a game. There is
- 28:30Speaker 10: no there is There is no comparative to the to
- 28:35Speaker 10: the talent of that stuff.
- 28:36Speaker 4: He'd blow it away. It's not even close. He's considered
- 28:39Speaker 4: smaller in the league.
- 28:40Speaker 10: And he blowed them away on that it's just a
- 28:43Speaker 10: different world, different style, different everything. And that's the issue
- 28:47Speaker 10: that I say with this. He knew it himself. Look
- 28:50Speaker 10: what he's doing now. Look at what he's doing with
- 28:54Speaker 10: these guys now they didn't know. Okay, he got to
- 28:56Speaker 10: the Sacramento Kings, big deal and stuff like that. He
- 28:59Speaker 10: shows he can still play. If he still scoring the
- 29:02Speaker 10: way he isn't doing anything. Way, what would he do
- 29:04Speaker 10: in China. He knew it, and he didn't want to
- 29:06Speaker 10: be away.
- 29:06Speaker 4: From his family. It wouldn't be worth and.
- 29:08Speaker 1: He's got the money, Scott.
- 29:11Speaker 6: The thing that he wanted most was the ability to play.
- 29:16Speaker 6: He didn't want to be the last guy on the bench.
- 29:18Speaker 6: He didn't want to come in during mop up time.
- 29:21Speaker 6: He didn't want to go out that way. He wanted
- 29:23Speaker 6: to go to a place like Sacramento where he can
- 29:27Speaker 6: play major minutes, start on occasion, and get into the rotation.
- 29:33Speaker 6: That's why he went to Sacramento. It had nothing to
- 29:36Speaker 6: do with money, it had nothing to do with China.
- 29:39Speaker 6: It was the fact that he wanted to play valuable
- 29:41Speaker 6: minutes in the NBA, and you got to take your hat.
- 29:47Speaker 3: Off to him. He went to a team that won
- 29:50Speaker 3: eight games already.
- 29:53Speaker 1: So Jacob, how much time do you have.
- 29:55Speaker 4: Left till ten o'clock on the dot?
- 29:58Speaker 3: Oh?
- 29:58Speaker 1: Till ten I'm done. Okay, then all right, well let's
- 30:01Speaker 1: talk about Let's remember Florn Scrift of the Joiner. You
- 30:05Speaker 1: talk about the Olympics coming up. Kendy, what's candy? Give
- 30:08Speaker 1: us a little bit of background about Florence Scriff's The
- 30:11Speaker 1: Joiner will come back in a moment. Marvin, is there
- 30:13Speaker 1: anything that sants out to you about this woman? I
- 30:16Speaker 1: know she was a curazot woman, and yeah, a very
- 30:19Speaker 1: inspiring individual.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Yeah, Olympic champion fashionista always had unique custom outfits. I
- 30:26Speaker 2: feel like the nails, I mean she had them. She
- 30:29Speaker 2: had nails that were like a couple of inches long.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Out there competing at a very high level, had a
- 30:37Speaker 2: really unfortunate death, died, passed away young, and I mean
- 30:41Speaker 2: one of the greatest sprinters of all time. I think
- 30:44Speaker 2: she got caught up and some of those scandals with
- 30:47Speaker 2: a performance en hands some drugs.
- 30:49Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 30:50Speaker 2: I don't know if it was proven or not, but
- 30:51Speaker 2: that was that was the big narrative around her. But
- 30:54Speaker 2: just an amazing athlete, and I recall the interviews and
- 30:59Speaker 2: her presentation. I mean, she always presented herself great and
- 31:02Speaker 2: just gratitude and positivity, and I just I just remember
- 31:07Speaker 2: her as a champion.
- 31:08Speaker 3: That's what I remember. It's a dominant champion.
- 31:11Speaker 5: Candy US Track and Field inducted her into its Hall
- 31:18Speaker 5: of Fame back in nineteen ninety five. In two thy
- 31:21Speaker 5: one hundred and second Street School in Los Angeles was
- 31:24Speaker 5: renamed Laurence Griffin Joiner Elementary School. She was obviously a
- 31:32Speaker 5: great American track and field athlete, the fastest woman ever recorded,
- 31:39Speaker 5: setting world records in the one hundred meters and the
- 31:42Speaker 5: two hundred meters back in nineteen ninety eight. During the
- 31:47Speaker 5: late nineteen eighties, she became a popular figure due to
- 31:50Speaker 5: both her record setting athleticism and her personal style, like
- 31:56Speaker 5: you know Marvin was talking about and then her nails
- 31:59Speaker 5: and stuff like that. But yeah, she was in the
- 32:02Speaker 5: Olympic gold She got gold in nineteen ninety eight for
- 32:07Speaker 5: the one hundred meters, the two hundred meters, and the
- 32:10Speaker 5: four by one hundred meters. She took silver in the
- 32:13Speaker 5: eighty four, Los Angeles in the two hundred meters, silver
- 32:18Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty eight, and Seoul in the four by
- 32:20Speaker 5: four hundred and she had. In nineteen eighty seven, she
- 32:24Speaker 5: won a world the gold World Championship for the four
- 32:27Speaker 5: by one hundred and silver for the two hundred. She
- 32:32Speaker 5: was born and raised in California, and from a young
- 32:35Speaker 5: age she began running track meets as a child. She
- 32:38Speaker 5: attended California State University, Northridge and the University of California,
- 32:43Speaker 5: Los Angeles. She conteeded to compete in track and field
- 32:46Speaker 5: while still in college. She qualified for the nineteen eighty Olympics,
- 32:50Speaker 5: but did not compete due to the US boycotting, but
- 32:55Speaker 5: she made her Olympic debut four years later, winning a
- 32:59Speaker 5: silver medal in the two hundred meters in eighty four.
- 33:03Speaker 5: She abruptly retired in February of eighty nine, but she
- 33:08Speaker 5: remained a pop culture figure through endorsement deals, acting, and designing,
- 33:13Speaker 5: and in nineteen eight ninety eight, at age thirty eight,
- 33:17Speaker 5: she died in her sleep during an epileptic seizure caused
- 33:22Speaker 5: by a birth defect.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Oh girl, Kinzie sums it up fast than challenge. She
- 33:28Speaker 1: was a model on the track. She was super fast.
- 33:30Speaker 1: She was great all right, So Tommy, some thoughts about
- 33:33Speaker 1: this legendary woman who obviously made a lot of memories
- 33:36Speaker 1: and was the class of the Olympics and won a
- 33:39Speaker 1: lot of championships.
- 33:41Speaker 8: Yeah, if you look around American track and field now,
- 33:43Speaker 8: there's so many stylish women, talented, stylish women. She's just
- 33:48Speaker 8: a forerunner for all that. However, as Margret alluded to,
- 33:54Speaker 8: it was in nineteen eighty eight that was Ben Johnson
- 33:56Speaker 8: getting busted for steroids in Seoul, So track and field
- 34:01Speaker 8: hadn't really picked up on what was going on with
- 34:04Speaker 8: their testing, and her times dropped so dramatically. As great
- 34:12Speaker 8: as she was, as good a person, she was delightful person,
- 34:17Speaker 8: it's hard not to believe she wasn't on steroids.
- 34:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you totally.
- 34:24Speaker 9: Yeah, it's always sad when such a great athlete it
- 34:29Speaker 9: just has a stain, like on their resumes such as that.
- 34:34Speaker 9: But it's hard to think about the record not being broken.
- 34:38Speaker 9: And we have bigger, stronger, fashioned women in twenty twenty
- 34:42Speaker 9: five and that's still standing. But I still just look
- 34:46Speaker 9: at her as the iconic figure the Nails. You're never
- 34:49Speaker 9: going to forget the Nails and clean. She's one of
- 34:53Speaker 9: the greatest athletes that America's ever produced. But we'll never
- 34:59Speaker 9: really know. Speculation is terrible, Tato.
- 35:04Speaker 4: I'm not calling it a stain. She still had to work.
- 35:07Speaker 10: I'm just being honest. She still had to work at it.
- 35:09Speaker 10: And I will say this, Michael Johnson wanted to bring
- 35:13Speaker 10: out Track with this professional track league, and it's about
- 35:16Speaker 10: out of business.
- 35:16Speaker 4: It's almost broke. They can't even pay their athletes.
- 35:19Speaker 10: No, here's the thing that would have made Track huge
- 35:22Speaker 10: if she got to live through the time of what
- 35:25Speaker 10: we see now with Instagram and TikTok and all of these,
- 35:29Speaker 10: and she could be able to get on those areas
- 35:32Speaker 10: and you get all those type of things, to get
- 35:34Speaker 10: millions of people watching about how to do her nails,
- 35:37Speaker 10: what kind of nails you'd get, and the styles and
- 35:39Speaker 10: all that kind of stuff. Because the one thing about
- 35:42Speaker 10: it is unlike all the others that are stylish and
- 35:44Speaker 10: everything that you all brought up, she I mean, she
- 35:48Speaker 10: would have gotten on there proudly and happily. They don't
- 35:51Speaker 10: do that in the same boat as she would have.
- 35:53Speaker 10: So she would have made Track even bigger if she
- 35:55Speaker 10: got if she was able to live, she would have
- 35:58Speaker 10: done it. It's like, it's what Michael Johnson's wanting to do.
- 36:00Speaker 10: Is understandable, but that's not the way she would have
- 36:03Speaker 10: had the wagh.
- 36:05Speaker 6: Scott Flojio was one of the greatest of all time.
- 36:10Speaker 6: But it must be killing Marvin talking about another UCLA athlete.
- 36:15Speaker 8: She was.
- 36:18Speaker 9: In my.
- 36:20Speaker 6: Olympic history. She's the greatest female track athlete that there was,
- 36:27Speaker 6: maybe ever will be.
- 36:29Speaker 1: I don't know, no question, no doubt questioning her legendary status.
- 36:34Speaker 1: This will know was amazing. We have a topic design
- 36:36Speaker 1: for Jacob, after all, he made this one faints for
- 36:39Speaker 1: all the right or wrong reasons. But Audie Crooks has
- 36:42Speaker 1: scored double digits in her last eighty game. Jacob, can
- 36:46Speaker 1: any let me stop your best friend Autie Crooks?
- 36:49Speaker 10: No, no, And I brought one thing that I brought
- 36:52Speaker 10: up in the whole thing, and everybody around here wasn't
- 36:55Speaker 10: here when we have this. Okay, it's like now everybody
- 37:00Speaker 10: everybody had seen this and my very final show here
- 37:03Speaker 10: before I took a little bit of a break, was
- 37:04Speaker 10: about Audie Crooks.
- 37:05Speaker 4: It was one of our bigger ratings too.
- 37:07Speaker 10: It caused all kinds of intense hate and all that
- 37:11Speaker 10: kind of stuff until they apologize to me for the
- 37:13Speaker 10: point I was making, which was the fact that she was.
- 37:17Speaker 10: She did have a little she did have a little
- 37:19Speaker 10: too much weight on her. She was awesome, and I
- 37:21Speaker 10: wanted her to be all right. You know what she
- 37:23Speaker 10: did the next year and it wasn't because of me.
- 37:25Speaker 10: She didn't know who I am. She lost about thirty
- 37:28Speaker 10: five pounds and she's getting even better, and you know
- 37:32Speaker 10: it's something. And as she gets to the WNBA, she's
- 37:34Speaker 10: going to lose more and she's going to gain muscle
- 37:36Speaker 10: on that. The reason I was all over her like that.
- 37:42Speaker 10: The way I was had nothing to do just plainly
- 37:44Speaker 10: with the weight that's too surface level. The reason I
- 37:48Speaker 10: was like that is because someone like I've seen it
- 37:50Speaker 10: with so many athletes that want to play this political
- 37:53Speaker 10: game or say oh I want them for the big
- 37:56Speaker 10: girls or whatever.
- 37:56Speaker 4: Then they bust their knees up, then they bust their
- 37:59Speaker 4: nas up.
- 38:00Speaker 10: And then the only one I know of is Taylor
- 38:02Speaker 10: Townsend who didn't bust her knees up. But then she
- 38:04Speaker 10: didn't get as far as she wanted to other than doubles.
- 38:06Speaker 10: Then she lost wait a little too late. And that's
- 38:10Speaker 10: the point I'm making. I'm not doing it to for
- 38:12Speaker 10: a surface level or the man versus woman thing. I'm
- 38:15Speaker 10: doing it because they can destroy their knees over a
- 38:18Speaker 10: long time. She's an awesome player. There was never a
- 38:21Speaker 10: doubt of that. I always said she was an awesome player.
- 38:24Speaker 10: I just didn't want her to bust her knees up
- 38:26Speaker 10: before her time. And it looks like she's going to
- 38:28Speaker 10: do even more things in the w n b A
- 38:30Speaker 10: and get more fit. And just wait till that happens.
- 38:34Speaker 1: Anybody else want to add to Audie Crook story.
- 38:41Speaker 9: Addy Kirk still has some physical work to do. And
- 38:44Speaker 9: I watched them play play Baylor. You might not be
- 38:46Speaker 9: able to stop her offensively, but you can take advantage
- 38:50Speaker 9: of her defensively. Not very movement.
- 38:56Speaker 1: I'll just continue.
- 38:58Speaker 5: Can I just say she was? She was a four
- 39:01Speaker 5: star recruit as she left the state's all time leader
- 39:04Speaker 5: in field goals made, as well as the state tournament's
- 39:07Speaker 5: all time leader in points and rebounds. She also won
- 39:10Speaker 5: four state titles in track and field, including three straight
- 39:14Speaker 5: in the shot put.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Okay, great stuff, all right, let's continue on. I have
- 39:19Speaker 1: one for Tommy all right. There's a portal clemit that
- 39:22Speaker 1: Michigan State University, Atlanta, and he's an All FCS center
- 39:26Speaker 1: named Trent Frehley over Penn State and FSU. This guy,
- 39:30Speaker 1: Tommy and the son of Detroit Lions coach Hank Freyley
- 39:34Speaker 1: allowed just one second, eight and twenty five pass block
- 39:38Speaker 1: snaps at North Dakota State. So when your thought about
- 39:41Speaker 1: this edition, Tommy to the Spartans.
- 39:43Speaker 8: Yeah, well, North Carolina State has been a FCS power
- 39:49Speaker 8: for a long time. They not only win games at
- 39:51Speaker 8: their level, they've been sending players to the NFL for
- 39:54Speaker 8: a long time. And Spartans they've been suffering with their
- 40:00Speaker 8: offensive line for three four years now. So Pat Fitzgerald
- 40:04Speaker 8: is addressing one of the most important rebuilds.
- 40:08Speaker 3: He asked, he faces, Uh, they brought in three the street.
- 40:13Speaker 8: He would be the third offensive lineman they brought in
- 40:16Speaker 8: from the transfer portal.
- 40:18Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a big obviously a big anybody else
- 40:20Speaker 1: want to add to it?
- 40:21Speaker 2: Marvin, I was just being honest. I was thinking, these
- 40:25Speaker 2: are two irrelevant programs. No one is talking about North
- 40:28Speaker 2: Fliina State and Michigan State on any level. You know,
- 40:31Speaker 2: this is you know, good for the kid, and I
- 40:34Speaker 2: hope he does well. I mean they're not They're not
- 40:37Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. So yeah, I'm.
- 40:44Speaker 1: I haven't tell you don't kid yourself. North Dakota States
- 40:46Speaker 1: the powerhouse and SCS they really are.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Well No, I mean, listen, I'm talking them the big picture.
- 40:50Speaker 2: I mean, we're looking at the final fourard we're heading
- 40:52Speaker 2: into this weekend with Miami and Indiana Oregon. Listen that
- 40:56Speaker 2: whole thing with North Dakota State. They have a great
- 40:58Speaker 2: program for their level. You know, I like what they
- 41:01Speaker 2: do for that level. It's football. Those guys love the game.
- 41:04Speaker 2: They send guys to the pros. We've seen a few,
- 41:07Speaker 2: but you know, I mean, if you ain't talking about
- 41:10Speaker 2: you know, the playoffs.
- 41:11Speaker 3: And the Orange Bow and the Rose and you know,
- 41:14Speaker 3: I'm just saying, guys.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Okay, got a topic design anybody else? Okay, we got
- 41:22Speaker 1: one for Scott. Okay, ready, Scott Ji Lucas and you're
- 41:27Speaker 1: gonna be seeing him next week, I believe down in
- 41:29Speaker 1: Miami right actually got the Hurricanes off to a tended
- 41:33Speaker 1: to start with a win over rival FIU. Despite not
- 41:37Speaker 1: returning a single player from last year's roster, Lucas has
- 41:41Speaker 1: them totally has completely turned around the program in their
- 41:45Speaker 1: first season at the Helm. Scott so talks about the
- 41:48Speaker 1: Hurricane basketball program.
- 41:51Speaker 6: Well, it's it's hard to talk Hurricane basketball on the
- 41:54Speaker 6: eve of the biggest game they'll play in twenty three years,
- 41:58Speaker 6: but I'm gonna.
- 41:59Speaker 4: Do it for you, you Scott.
- 42:02Speaker 1: Thanks.
- 42:03Speaker 6: The reason is is that Jay Lucas is a fantastic recruiter.
- 42:08Speaker 6: He gutted that roster, he got rid of the dead wood,
- 42:13Speaker 6: and he brought in guys that know how to play,
- 42:16Speaker 6: and they're working on their chemistry. They're still ten and two.
- 42:21Speaker 6: They had a hard loss to Florida, but that there's
- 42:25Speaker 6: no shame in losing to Florida and basketball. They're the
- 42:30Speaker 6: defending national champions and he really has that team going
- 42:36Speaker 6: in the right direction.
- 42:40Speaker 1: Anybody else want to add to this?
- 42:43Speaker 4: Jay Lucas, right, Jay Lucas right? You said yeah, yeah, yeah, Lucas,
- 42:49Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti that you don't want to know.
- 42:51Speaker 10: There are the new kinds of they're in the new
- 42:53Speaker 10: type of coach for this generation, for this era. And
- 42:56Speaker 10: what I mean by that is the things that took
- 42:59Speaker 10: forty years someone like Bob Knight or Judd Heathcote or
- 43:03Speaker 10: all those guys to do with a one team, They're
- 43:06Speaker 10: able to do it in months and it's there. They're
- 43:09Speaker 10: teaching an idea of efficiency. They're teaching the idea of
- 43:13Speaker 10: efficiency and getting it done faster and allow and learning
- 43:16Speaker 10: and allow them to learn and see the court or
- 43:19Speaker 10: see the field quick and be able to do this
- 43:21Speaker 10: and do it but knowing it they have to do
- 43:23Speaker 10: it faster because they might be gone the next year.
- 43:25Speaker 4: So they had this understanding. A lot of other coaches
- 43:27Speaker 4: don't right now.
- 43:28Speaker 6: I don't want to take anything away from Jimmy Larnega,
- 43:32Speaker 6: but he was He wasn't ready for the NIL evolution.
- 43:37Speaker 6: He didn't want to have any part of that.
- 43:39Speaker 3: Okay.
- 43:40Speaker 6: I was at his final press conference before he left
- 43:44Speaker 6: Miami and he basically said, I'm not ready for this game.
- 43:49Speaker 6: This is a totally different game for me. I'm not
- 43:52Speaker 6: used to paying players, right. So you know, Jay Lucas
- 43:57Speaker 6: comes in, he knows what they want, he knows the
- 44:00Speaker 6: budget he has, and he uses it wise.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Okay, So if anybody else want to add to this.
- 44:10Speaker 8: I was the last three four years, so uh. And
- 44:14Speaker 8: then before that he was at Kentucky and Texas, so
- 44:18Speaker 8: he knows what a top all line program looks like.
- 44:21Speaker 9: Yeah, especially in this era because Duke is one and
- 44:25Speaker 9: done Central right now, Kentucky has been one and done
- 44:28Speaker 9: central and moving players around for the last ten years,
- 44:32Speaker 9: and basketball is now just pick and roll like it's
- 44:35Speaker 9: not a lot of players being rand. So it's easy
- 44:37Speaker 9: to get these kids who play au with four or
- 44:39Speaker 9: five different teams to kind of get together now and
- 44:42Speaker 9: you know, get cohesive pretty quickly.
- 44:45Speaker 8: No, it's it's a long three point shot. It's a
- 44:49Speaker 8: three point shot, long rebound, go down to the other court,
- 44:54Speaker 8: three point shot down to the other end.
- 44:58Speaker 10: No, No, no, three point shot, miss, longer, longer three point shot,
- 45:02Speaker 10: miss rebound, three point shot, miss three point shot two
- 45:05Speaker 10: minutes later.
- 45:06Speaker 4: Make.
- 45:08Speaker 1: Okay? All right? One topic I want everybody to talk
- 45:11Speaker 1: about or to real quick, if you don't mind stress
- 45:13Speaker 1: for me for about five minutes or so. I know
- 45:15Speaker 1: y'all have to get off close to ten, but these
- 45:17Speaker 1: are important. And then after this topic or so, I'm
- 45:20Speaker 1: gonna have the Shanahan Report and pundit, pund it, Can
- 45:23Speaker 1: you guys hang with me for a little bit on
- 45:25Speaker 1: these topicsause they're really really important. One of which Norm
- 45:28Speaker 1: Nixon thinks the younger generation NBA player will never understand.
- 45:32Speaker 1: I'll tell if it was to play in the eighties
- 45:36Speaker 1: because of racial inequality. All right, Uh, Tommy, what are
- 45:40Speaker 1: your thoughts of this one?
- 45:44Speaker 8: Well, the first thing I thought about was what, uh,
- 45:50Speaker 8: what's his name? Porter said? I didn't know this about
- 45:53Speaker 8: Porter in the women's game. So I kind of take
- 45:55Speaker 8: back a little about what I said. If he wants
- 45:57Speaker 8: to make a fool out of himself, yeah, he can
- 45:59Speaker 8: say what he wants, but that's stupid stuff he said
- 46:02Speaker 8: about the women's program. But you can say that the
- 46:07Speaker 8: NBA in the eighties compared to now, these guys that
- 46:10Speaker 8: play now couldn't survive in the eighties.
- 46:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:14Speaker 1: So I mean, so you're saying that that you agree
- 46:17Speaker 1: with dorm Misson that they have a hard time because
- 46:19Speaker 1: the racial inequality. Do you agree with him?
- 46:21Speaker 8: Actually, Um, I'd have to think about that. I'm not
- 46:27Speaker 8: sure what he means by that. I mean it was
- 46:29Speaker 8: mostly black. The league's been mostly black since the seventies.
- 46:33Speaker 4: Yeah, I got something to say with that. I got
- 46:35Speaker 4: something to say with that that New York was all black.
- 46:38Speaker 10: And the whole debate of it was that when they
- 46:40Speaker 10: had it with Boston and all that kind of stuff
- 46:41Speaker 10: with the players in the eighties, that they were like
- 46:44Speaker 10: there was people they were interviewing and it was on
- 46:46Speaker 10: the Magic.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Versus Bird thirty for thirty yeah or whatever the thing is.
- 46:50Speaker 10: They was over there and they were saying, I think
- 46:51Speaker 10: there's too many black players with the white people.
- 46:53Speaker 4: You know, that craziness. But the but the big thing
- 46:57Speaker 4: about it is the thing that we can think about.
- 47:01Speaker 10: Is when Craig Hodges lost his and he lost his
- 47:04Speaker 10: career basically because he was talking about some certain inning
- 47:06Speaker 10: callity him after nineteen ninety two, he had to go
- 47:09Speaker 10: into nineties, He had to go into nineteen ninety three
- 47:11Speaker 10: with a generic jersey going to the three point contest
- 47:14Speaker 10: and he never did it again because he never did
- 47:17Speaker 10: it again, and he didn't because he didn't have a team,
- 47:20Speaker 10: And there is little there's those things like that. So yeah,
- 47:24Speaker 10: but there's more to it in that surface. There's too
- 47:26Speaker 10: many with these asually equality arguments and everything. There's too
- 47:31Speaker 10: many surface arguments that go that they try to make
- 47:34Speaker 10: to it, and it's too complicated.
- 47:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 47:37Speaker 8: Yeah, and uh, he showed a lot of courage when
- 47:40Speaker 8: he wouldn't go to the White House. Who I don't know,
- 47:43Speaker 8: I forget who was president at the time. Maybe Bush,
- 47:45Speaker 8: But yeah, you're right there used to be a lot
- 47:50Speaker 8: more great white hope in basketball than there is now.
- 47:53Speaker 8: I think, so hopefully we've grown a little bit past that.
- 47:58Speaker 8: I think Bill Walt, you staris ain't that when they
- 48:01Speaker 8: would talk say that about him?
- 48:06Speaker 1: I will go around the horn rows.
- 48:07Speaker 9: The rest Marvin. What Marvin is about to say something?
- 48:10Speaker 9: I want to speak on this topic too.
- 48:12Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think what.
- 48:13Speaker 1: He's yeah, I said we were going to do that.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 48:16Speaker 2: I think what he's saying is, even though it's the
- 48:18Speaker 2: nineteen eighties, and you know, if you had civil rights
- 48:20Speaker 2: laws that are passed in the sixties that meant nothing.
- 48:23Speaker 2: You still had industries, you still had you know, uh
- 48:26Speaker 2: certain you know organizations that operated Jim Crow and it
- 48:30Speaker 2: is what it is. I mean, nineteen eighties ownership basketball
- 48:33Speaker 2: was a good old boys network. That's the bottom line.
- 48:35Speaker 2: And you know, the players Association what isn't what it
- 48:39Speaker 2: is today, you know what I mean.
- 48:41Speaker 3: So he's absolutely right.
- 48:42Speaker 2: These players today they don't they don't understand you know,
- 48:46Speaker 2: racism or stivil rights or anything like that. They don't
- 48:49Speaker 2: get that because of the day that they live and
- 48:52Speaker 2: that they're making boot cool money. You know that the
- 48:55Speaker 2: you only could dream about You know what I'm saying.
- 48:57Speaker 2: They live in the digital world. They're digital king them
- 49:00Speaker 2: social media in these platforms. You know, they they they're
- 49:04Speaker 2: still black, don't get me wrong. And if they mess up,
- 49:07Speaker 2: they gonna find out that they black. But the reality
- 49:09Speaker 2: is they got so much money that they're living a
- 49:11Speaker 2: life that is almost almost transcends race. You know what
- 49:15Speaker 2: I'm saying, as opposed to the eighties, where again, these players,
- 49:19Speaker 2: the association isn't what it is. You know, the TV
- 49:22Speaker 2: contracts aren't what they are. You got guys still, you
- 49:24Speaker 2: got the big guys still making money, but you may
- 49:27Speaker 2: have guys who play in the NBA and got part
- 49:29Speaker 2: time jobs in the off season, you know what I'm saying.
- 49:32Speaker 2: So it's it's it's it's such a different world in
- 49:35Speaker 2: so many different ways. That's That's where I'm going with it.
- 49:38Speaker 8: Yeah, Marvin's right. Yeah, let me add one more thing
- 49:42Speaker 8: of that. I don't mean to interrupt you there, Tony,
- 49:44Speaker 8: but yeah, Marvin's right. I didn't really understand what was
- 49:46Speaker 8: the context of this conversation, but that reminds me of
- 49:49Speaker 8: a story I wrote recently. Willie Tagger, when he was
- 49:53Speaker 8: a coach in South Florida. I was able to interview
- 49:55Speaker 8: him before they played at Michigan State, and Willie tagger
- 49:59Speaker 8: I understood the history of Michigan State leading college football
- 50:02Speaker 8: integration under W. Doherty of the Underground Railroad, and he said,
- 50:07Speaker 8: this is how this is hallow ground that he was
- 50:09Speaker 8: going to and he was looking forward to it. And
- 50:12Speaker 8: he also told me that he told his players and
- 50:15Speaker 8: whatever challenges they face, his black players, whatever challenges they faced,
- 50:20Speaker 8: they have no idea what the players back in the
- 50:22Speaker 8: sixties and before that faced.
- 50:25Speaker 1: Tommy, I know you gotta get rollings. Why don't you
- 50:27Speaker 1: give us your Shanahan Report real quickly and then we'll
- 50:29Speaker 1: let Jacob do his puns punting. But I want to
- 50:32Speaker 1: I want to make sure we get Tommy out of
- 50:34Speaker 1: a reasonable time. Thanks for hanging out with a couple
- 50:35Speaker 1: of minutes.
- 50:36Speaker 8: Go ahead, Tommy, Yeah, go to my website, tom Shanahan
- 50:38Speaker 8: Dot Report and my Twitter hand. Who is Shanny forty
- 50:42Speaker 8: fifty five?
- 50:44Speaker 1: Beautiful? All right, Tommy, look forward to seeing you obviously
- 50:47Speaker 1: on Tuesday night on Inside the Victon. Well done, and
- 50:50Speaker 1: also Tommy's a writer for the South Florida Tribune as well.
- 50:53Speaker 1: Historians are absolutely fantastic. We connect all the dots with
- 50:56Speaker 1: his links and all that. So go ahead and check
- 50:59Speaker 1: out Tom shann hand. And I hope he generates to
- 51:01Speaker 1: hold the ideas some of these shows to put in
- 51:03Speaker 1: this show. So because this guy is outstanding, I've known
- 51:06Speaker 1: him a while. That's a great friends for Tommy. Great stuff.
- 51:09Speaker 1: You see you next week. You're welcome. All right, now,
- 51:13Speaker 1: don to Tony, you want to get some thoughts in there.
- 51:16Speaker 1: Then we'll go to Jacob real quick, and then Scott
- 51:18Speaker 1: will need you a few minutes longer if you don't mind, please,
- 51:21Speaker 1: so that we can run off the show with stuff
- 51:23Speaker 1: is pertinent to what we're doing. Can you do that?
- 51:26Speaker 1: That's great? So all right, Tony, go ahead.
- 51:28Speaker 9: Yeah. When it comes to Norm Nixon, I think just
- 51:31Speaker 9: naturally things get easier for each generation. So I understand
- 51:36Speaker 9: what he's saying with that, but I don't. I also
- 51:40Speaker 9: feel like older people should be careful with discrediting what
- 51:44Speaker 9: challenges the younger generation do face. You know, I'm sure,
- 51:50Speaker 9: like you said, Marvin, you're still black in America. No,
- 51:53Speaker 9: not much how much money you made, and yeah, you
- 51:56Speaker 9: might not be getting talked about personally, But like you
- 51:59Speaker 9: said that digital. Hey, some of them comments can get
- 52:02Speaker 9: pretty brutal, you know what I'm saying. Some of the
- 52:04Speaker 9: things people say to you, Yeah, they might not be
- 52:05Speaker 9: able to say it to your face. But it's just
- 52:07Speaker 9: a different kind of issue now, you feel me. But
- 52:12Speaker 9: you just getta be careful comparing bad things happening to you, right.
- 52:17Speaker 9: You want to be sympathetic to everybody and what everybody
- 52:19Speaker 9: has going on. But I get what he's saying. It's
- 52:21Speaker 9: it's easier for you. Feel like it gets easier for
- 52:24Speaker 9: each generation. But it's just different, different troubles and stop.
- 52:28Speaker 1: What's your take on this?
- 52:32Speaker 6: My takes a little different than everybody else's take to you.
- 52:36Speaker 3: What a shock?
- 52:37Speaker 4: Right?
- 52:38Speaker 3: I want to know.
- 52:41Speaker 6: What predicated Nixon to speak on the subject, right, because
- 52:49Speaker 6: we don't talk about today much about the race game
- 52:54Speaker 6: in the NBA, and I'd like to know what made
- 53:00Speaker 6: him come out with that out of out of the blue.
- 53:06Speaker 6: You know, it's it's not an issue that society is
- 53:09Speaker 6: dealing with today. Today's NBA player is in fighting racial inequality.
- 53:16Speaker 6: To the best of my knowledge, I haven't heard anything
- 53:20Speaker 6: in the last a bundle of years, but I wonder
- 53:26Speaker 6: if Nixon still still bears some ill will toward the
- 53:31Speaker 6: game or toward people that he worked with back from
- 53:35Speaker 6: the eighties, and he's still carrying a chip on his shoulder.
- 53:40Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, Sky, well, here's a hold on.
- 53:44Speaker 1: Here's a customer. Show med shirt. Yeah, you get up
- 53:48Speaker 1: to stand up, show my shirt. I'll let you do it.
- 53:52Speaker 9: Me.
- 53:53Speaker 1: Yeah, let's know what your shirt says? All right, what
- 53:58Speaker 1: is it swag over.
- 54:01Speaker 8: Today?
- 54:01Speaker 1: And there you go. We gotta make sure we piece
- 54:05Speaker 1: are people in the chat room Scotti, Okay, go ahead, Marvin,
- 54:08Speaker 1: you want to add something to.
- 54:10Speaker 3: Listen.
- 54:10Speaker 2: Nor Norm came up in a tough time, is what
- 54:13Speaker 2: he's saying. And to be honest with you, you have
- 54:15Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of older players who get
- 54:18Speaker 2: jealous of the younger players. Jealous just because these players
- 54:21Speaker 2: came twenty years too late, you know, twenty years too soon.
- 54:24Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 54:25Speaker 2: Man, Dad, I used to always say that he wasn't jealous,
- 54:27Speaker 2: but you know he was the highest paid player player
- 54:30Speaker 2: in the league, and then two years after he retired
- 54:33Speaker 2: that number one up times four, you know what I'm saying.
- 54:35Speaker 3: So it's just like these.
- 54:36Speaker 2: Players, man, they you know, these great players are seeing
- 54:39Speaker 2: these guys making so much money just in the game
- 54:43Speaker 2: and sponsorships, online, on podcasts, guest appearances. I mean, the
- 54:48Speaker 2: money that NBA players is out of this world. I
- 54:51Speaker 2: love it only in America, you know what I'm saying.
- 54:54Speaker 2: But yeah, it sounds like Norm may be a little jealous.
- 54:56Speaker 2: Just to be honest with you, man, that's there, and
- 54:58Speaker 2: there's more of that than you think.
- 55:00Speaker 1: You're welcome. All right, Candy quicked us and then we
- 55:03Speaker 1: gotta get it. I gotta go.
- 55:04Speaker 9: I have to go.
- 55:07Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem, no problem.
- 55:09Speaker 10: The one of the things I've noticed about this is
- 55:11Speaker 10: there's people in this year that go about the Buffalo
- 55:15Speaker 10: Bills that complained about Josh Allen getting himself married and
- 55:18Speaker 10: he got married to Harry Steinfeld.
- 55:19Speaker 4: He's gonna give himself a kid and.
- 55:20Speaker 1: Everything like that.
- 55:21Speaker 10: They said that that was the reason he was quote
- 55:23Speaker 10: unquote bad met I remind the injuries, never mind everything.
- 55:27Speaker 10: Here's the thing to the fans for one second, if
- 55:30Speaker 10: you think about this, why was Roger Federer so great
- 55:34Speaker 10: a wife and then he had kids later and she
- 55:36Speaker 10: was his manager as everything like that kept him in line.
- 55:39Speaker 10: You see so many of these athletes, the ones that
- 55:42Speaker 10: are the most successful. Usually the most successful, with a
- 55:45Speaker 10: couple of exceptions, they have the wife. Jack Nicholas is
- 55:49Speaker 10: the greatest of all time. I'm gonna say it forever.
- 55:51Speaker 10: But he had a solid family life. This was the
- 55:55Speaker 10: big thing. Tiger could have destroyed all of his records,
- 55:59Speaker 10: but things happen on his end and he didn't realize
- 56:01Speaker 10: any of this stuff. And if he would have kept
- 56:04Speaker 10: with the same thing that jackad, they go good with
- 56:07Speaker 10: the same stability at jackad, he would have destroyed Jack's records.
- 56:12Speaker 10: It does not hurt to say and wife can help you.
- 56:15Speaker 10: Does not say a woman can help you. It does
- 56:16Speaker 10: not hurt to say that at all. Don't listen to
- 56:19Speaker 10: the fans.
- 56:20Speaker 9: Go with it.
- 56:22Speaker 6: Nicholas is an absolute gem of a woman. Who is
- 56:27Speaker 6: Barbara Nicholas.
- 56:28Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that.
- 56:30Speaker 1: All right, Jacob, we'll see you tomorrow night on Sports
- 56:33Speaker 1: Trap Hockey. All right, ready for that one. I got
- 56:35Speaker 1: a loaded show, all right, take care yourself, all right,
- 56:37Speaker 1: take care of have you got all right?
- 56:40Speaker 8: Now?
- 56:40Speaker 1: Down to five, we're gonna go through rapid fire because
- 56:43Speaker 1: there's some really good topics we'll get. Thanks for hanging
- 56:45Speaker 1: with me a little longer. Scottie company on your NBA
- 56:49Speaker 1: and a lot of college football that will apply. All right,
- 56:51Speaker 1: let's start to it. Okay, Now, Larry Bird says the
- 56:56Speaker 1: NBA needs to be international. Okay, some thoughts, Marvin.
- 57:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear him.
- 57:02Speaker 2: I mean, because what you're seeing are all the best
- 57:04Speaker 2: players getting drafted early. I mean all these European players,
- 57:08Speaker 2: players from overseas. They I feel like they dominate the
- 57:10Speaker 2: NBA draft, at least the top of it. And you
- 57:13Speaker 2: know what he's saying is, let's let's get our brand
- 57:16Speaker 2: to where these kids are. This is about business. This
- 57:19Speaker 2: isn't about basketball, This isn't about the NBA. He understands
- 57:24Speaker 2: how to go to sing and how to make some money.
- 57:25Speaker 2: So yeah, rapid fire. That's that makes sense to me,
- 57:29Speaker 2: Larry Bird.
- 57:32Speaker 5: The NFL has has marketed themselves as a genius because
- 57:38Speaker 5: they have expanded into the international. Uh, the NBA needs
- 57:43Speaker 5: to follow suit.
- 57:47Speaker 1: Totally.
- 57:49Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like it's happening right. They do
- 57:51Speaker 9: two to three games in Paris every year, they open
- 57:56Speaker 9: up preseason in China. I don't know if he means
- 57:59Speaker 9: like putting teams internationally to make it like a conference,
- 58:03Speaker 9: like a World conference, but I think that should be
- 58:05Speaker 9: coming down the pipeline too, because they have feeder programs
- 58:08Speaker 9: like the NBA Africa. So it's cuming. Larry Berg, just chill.
- 58:12Speaker 9: You got to build the infrastructure.
- 58:15Speaker 1: It's nunny.
- 58:17Speaker 6: I don't think the NBA needs to go to Europe.
- 58:20Speaker 6: I don't think. I don't think it would necessarily work
- 58:25Speaker 6: long term. I mean the NFL tried it with the
- 58:28Speaker 6: World League of American Football and they weren't drawing in
- 58:33Speaker 6: the European cities as much as they thought they were
- 58:38Speaker 6: going to. Yeah, for one game that they play at
- 58:40Speaker 6: Wembley Stadium every year, or two games at Wembley Stadium,
- 58:45Speaker 6: yeah they'll draw a sell out crowd. But can they
- 58:48Speaker 6: do that consistently night in and night out at an
- 58:52Speaker 6: NBA arena in London? I don't think so.
- 58:57Speaker 1: Great. So for let's continue on Fox, Drew Brees is
- 59:02Speaker 1: joining full time and with the ahead of A mean
- 59:07Speaker 1: obviously that he took the h He went out there
- 59:10Speaker 1: and got involved with the lines of the Viking game
- 59:13Speaker 1: on Netflix. The Fox line up it actually includes Tom Brady,
- 59:17Speaker 1: greg Olsen and Breeze. What are your thoughts about this group, Marvin.
- 59:21Speaker 2: I mean you're talking about with Brady and Breeze. You're
- 59:24Speaker 2: talking about two of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play.
- 59:27Speaker 2: I mean, Tom Brady is considered the goat seven championships,
- 59:31Speaker 2: multiple championships with multiple team well one with the Bucks,
- 59:36Speaker 2: one with six with the Patriots. Drew Brees at one
- 59:40Speaker 2: point was the all time leading passer. We see that number,
- 59:43Speaker 2: you know, get broken almost every week now, seems like,
- 59:46Speaker 2: but at one point, I mean, this guy, Drew Brees
- 59:49Speaker 2: is probably the biggest pro athlete probably ever in my opinion,
- 59:55Speaker 2: in Louisiana, just in the fact that he was able
- 59:57Speaker 2: to bring the Saints a championship. You listen, I've played
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: for the Saints, man, I know how down those people are,
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: and I know how tough that or how how hard
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: it is that organization to bring the Saints and championship,
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: especially after Katrina. Listen, that guy is huge, two huge brands,
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: two big quarterbacks. Fox hit a home run with that Candy.
- 1:00:19Speaker 5: I enjoy listening to former players talk about what's happening
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: and what's going on and calling the game from an
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: inside perspective that other people don't always bring. Yes, maybe
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: Brady wasn't the best at first, because I've heard a
- 1:00:38Speaker 5: lot of people say that, you know, in the beginning
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: he just wasn't as good, but that he's gotten a
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: lot better. But I do enjoy some of the insights
- 1:00:46Speaker 5: that they can bring that those of us like me
- 1:00:50Speaker 5: who have never played in the NFL can gather some
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: intel from him.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Tony Uh.
- 1:01:00Speaker 9: I heard Drew Brees on call one game. I forgot
- 1:01:03Speaker 9: what it was and he is a natural, Like I
- 1:01:06Speaker 9: just couldn't pick up his voice. That was the only
- 1:01:08Speaker 9: thing that threw me off. I was like, who is
- 1:01:10Speaker 9: this talking? Because I'm enjoying him called his game. Fox
- 1:01:13Speaker 9: saw CBS bringing Tony Romo and Tony Romo like call
- 1:01:17Speaker 9: the players before they happened, and said, you know what,
- 1:01:20Speaker 9: hold my beer, We're gonna get to Tony Romo's it
- 1:01:23Speaker 9: was going to be the goat. So it's pretty good.
- 1:01:26Speaker 9: I like Drew Brees and I even like Greg Olsen,
- 1:01:28Speaker 9: Like Greg Olsen was the guy before Tom Brady and
- 1:01:32Speaker 9: Drew Brees got there, and I enjoyed him too. So Fox,
- 1:01:35Speaker 9: if Fox got any games for the NFL Sunday, they
- 1:01:38Speaker 9: have good commentators because I like Mark sleav too. By
- 1:01:40Speaker 9: the way, just to throw him in there.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: Scott, he will have two more topics. Kittoo, that's all
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: we have left of the show. Great face, enjoying it
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: very much. It's got some thoughts.
- 1:01:50Speaker 6: I enjoy listening to former players do color commentary, but
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: I think Tom Brady sometimes speaks over every one's head
- 1:02:01Speaker 6: and he needs to have someone explain what he's talking about.
- 1:02:06Speaker 6: He might understand it, but the average football fan doesn't.
- 1:02:12Speaker 6: I only get about seventy five percent of what he says.
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: And I consider myself to have graduated with a master's
- 1:02:19Speaker 6: degree in college and pro football. But I think Greg
- 1:02:25Speaker 6: Olsen is the better of the two, you know what.
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: I like Greg Olsen a lot too. Obviously they through
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: breaking an awful lot of money. Go ahead, and Ton
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: you want to respond.
- 1:02:34Speaker 9: Back, Scott, missrs Solomon, You feel like maybe Tom Brady
- 1:02:38Speaker 9: should go John Madden and bring out the yellow marker.
- 1:02:43Speaker 6: I don't know what the yellow marker, but I think
- 1:02:46Speaker 6: he needs to break it down a little bit more
- 1:02:49Speaker 6: simplified for the average viewer. Yeah, the average viewer doesn't
- 1:02:54Speaker 6: do podcasts. Yeah, yeah, viewer listens to podcasts, feel you.
- 1:03:00Speaker 9: Yeah, he's like he's like his own commercial. When it
- 1:03:03Speaker 9: was like if you had Tom Brady's knowledge. It'll be
- 1:03:05Speaker 9: too much exactly if we live in his own commercial right.
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: Now, right, Okay, two more topics. I want to get
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: to the NFL bizarre NFC South Boy, Scott and I
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: know all about it, don't we. Pal Well, Tampa Bay,
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: Carolina and Atlanta. It took Carolina to get in the playoffs.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: They're hosting the l A Rams. My goodness is gonna
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: be talking about this obviously in the coming day, Scott,
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts about the fact that the
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers got in and the Bucks didn't get in
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: much less the fact that that's what an eight and
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: nineteen did get Insilli What comes down to? I mean,
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Atlanta the coach is gone, Carolina gets in. Tampa Bay, well,
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: we'll talk about him in a later date, but they
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: don't lose their coach. Scott, lead it off, please.
- 1:03:51Speaker 6: First thing is Tony's a much better looking guy without
- 1:03:54Speaker 6: that Carolina Panthers happened.
- 1:03:56Speaker 9: Oh no, this makes me sexy. S got Carol.
- 1:04:02Speaker 6: Carolina deserves to be there. They had They only won
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: eight games, but it's a lot more than they've won
- 1:04:08Speaker 6: in the past, and Tampa Bay couldn't get the deal closed.
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: They won the last game by the grace of God,
- 1:04:19Speaker 6: certainly not by the effort on the field, and I'd
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: like to see what's gonna come of it next year.
- 1:04:28Speaker 6: I think that if there's another eight to nine season
- 1:04:31Speaker 6: next year, or another loss of five out of the
- 1:04:34Speaker 6: first seven games, you're gonna see Todd Bowles holding up
- 1:04:38Speaker 6: the unemployment.
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: Line makes sense, Okay, go ahead, Tony.
- 1:04:44Speaker 9: Well well, well now, I'll be honest. I'm happy that
- 1:04:49Speaker 9: the Panthers in. I'm not happy that they backed in.
- 1:04:52Speaker 9: I wanted them to take care of their own business.
- 1:04:54Speaker 9: It felt so crazy hearing for the Falcon Saturday, but
- 1:05:00Speaker 9: it's the rules. I do feel like it's been more
- 1:05:03Speaker 9: chatter about switching the playoff format to keep teams like
- 1:05:11Speaker 9: Carolina or teams that's been under five hundred from getting
- 1:05:14Speaker 9: a playoff game home game. That is tough for Rams
- 1:05:18Speaker 9: team that won twelve games. But I'm happy, as you
- 1:05:21Speaker 9: can see. I went down there, got rained on for
- 1:05:24Speaker 9: an hour and a half straight. I'm gonna rep my Panthers,
- 1:05:27Speaker 9: proud man. Let's go. Hopefully we can get this upset Saturday.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: Candy, I think it's cool that.
- 1:05:36Speaker 5: Carolina is now in the playoffs. I have heard a
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: little Birdie told me that they Cam is going to
- 1:05:45Speaker 5: make an appearance at the beginning of the game. I
- 1:05:49Speaker 5: think he's gonna get them going. I forget what is
- 1:05:52Speaker 5: it that they do in the beginning.
- 1:05:54Speaker 9: They bang the drum.
- 1:05:56Speaker 5: They banged the drums, So Cam is gonna be banging
- 1:05:58Speaker 5: the drama I heard on Saturday. It's just exciting to
- 1:06:02Speaker 5: see Tampa Bay lost this game because they lost heart.
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: They lost the last couple of games. Yes, they won
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: the game against him, but they didn't take care of
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: business earlier. Carolina is up and coming. Kudos to them
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: for making the playoffs. Let's see how far they can go.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: I'm just happy for Dave van Ellis, and obviously he
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: goes from Tampa to Carolina. It shows that he was
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: a guy that was able to fix Bright Young. So
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: go ahead, Marvin.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: Listen, it was exciting being at the Saints Falcons game
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: this weekend because these are teams who are going nowhere,
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: but there's a lot riding on it right in the NFL,
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: and I was rooting heavy for my Saints. They couldn't
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: pull it off. Listen, tell you, I heard you mentioned
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: the word hope. Hope is not a strategy. I got
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: a feeling that Matt staff in him boy was like
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: the time out to Carolina and run through y'all. Literally, man,
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: let me, let me enjoy these names, right, Don't put
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: no money on it day, don't put no money on
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: none of that.
- 1:07:04Speaker 9: But no body because honestly, Marvin, yeah, I'm a I'm
- 1:07:08Speaker 9: a Panthers fan, but I know a lot of football.
- 1:07:10Speaker 9: We have a Tyler Shuck problem in the future. Let
- 1:07:14Speaker 9: me enjoy this moment, Okay, I hear you.
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: Man, all right, I'm expecting a good game, actually I am.
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: I think I think that Away comes out on top though.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: Okay, anybody that I haven't told on with this topic, good,
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: all right? Last one of the night that being missed
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: the last national championship. Okay, for remaining college football playoff teams,
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: Miami got their last one in two thousand and one.
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: Oh miss nineteen sixty thousand before I was born. Okay, Indiana, Well,
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: I never had one, and neither has order again. So
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: with that said, Marvin, who's gonna go ahead and break
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: that spell?
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: Listen?
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: I've been saying all year, especially after we played them,
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: that Oregon is a team that don't. No one's talking about.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: But Indiana looks so good. I mean, they look so
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: I mean they kick him, but consistently. I watched them
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: play against Ohio State. I watched them destroy Alabama. Uh
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: and the way that lets you know Alabama is no
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: longer Alabama. Why I've been gone. That's a whole other team.
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: Our program's different Indiana. Man in Indiana right now is
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: the money that that quarterback is for real. Their offensive
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: line play is for real, their playmaking ability at corner
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: receiver is real. Their defensive front is real. These guys
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: is big, They're tough, they got athletes. Indian's about to
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: come through and make history.
- 1:08:45Speaker 5: Candy, I may not have lived in that state very long,
- 1:08:50Speaker 5: but they're the ones that are gonna win it. I
- 1:08:53Speaker 5: lived there for a whole year and a half. Indiana's
- 1:08:56Speaker 5: gonna take it as much as I want Miami. I
- 1:08:59Speaker 5: think Indiana's that strong. Fourteen and zero, I mean, they
- 1:09:04Speaker 5: they and like Marvin said, they took care of business
- 1:09:07Speaker 5: against Alabama. They put I mean, yeah, I think I
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: think Indiana's gonna take it.
- 1:09:13Speaker 9: Tony, Oh, once again, I'm lean on my hope for
- 1:09:20Speaker 9: my Miami Hurricanes. I am hoping that they win, but
- 1:09:24Speaker 9: I feel like they'll come up short and they will
- 1:09:27Speaker 9: play their first they will be the first team to
- 1:09:29Speaker 9: play the National Championship game at home. But I do
- 1:09:32Speaker 9: think that they lose to Indiana. Indiana just looks like
- 1:09:35Speaker 9: a well oil machine. They look like what Alabama used
- 1:09:39Speaker 9: to look like. And I'm I'm a fan of history
- 1:09:43Speaker 9: and dominant teams, and I kind of want to see
- 1:09:45Speaker 9: them be the first team to go sixteen and up.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: That was a loaded re spines. I like it, very
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: good stuff. Tony Golad Scott Well.
- 1:09:58Speaker 6: I'm a big believer in Kirk Signetti. I like what
- 1:10:02Speaker 6: he's done in Indiana. I like Mendoza, good kid, but
- 1:10:08Speaker 6: not so fast. Miami Hurricanes are gonna win the National Championship.
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: You heard it here.
- 1:10:15Speaker 6: First, They're gonna take care of business against the Old
- 1:10:18Speaker 6: miss on Thursday, and then come January nineteenth, whether they
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: play Indiana or we have the Mario Crystal Ball bull
- 1:10:26Speaker 6: and they play Oregon, we're gonna win it.
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: You know what I'm doubling up with you. Remember, once
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: upon a time, the Miami Hurricanes were underdogs in Nebraska
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: back in the day with Howard Fellenberger, Well, they played
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: that game in Miami at the Orange Bowl some reason
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: or another. If Miami, well, when Miami hopefully gets there,
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: they'll be playing at hard Rock Stadium, and you're gonna
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: see an awful lot of Hurricane fans there. I'm going
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: with the Canes to I have a hard time. I
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: know that Kurk Signetti is a story of the year.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: I get it. You knows, maybe he will win it.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: But Miami or at hard Rock Stadium in a championship game,
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: that's just too difficult for me to go against it,
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: really truly is all right? That does it for this
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: edition to the Sports Exchange. With that said, Okay, Marvin
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: learrybody get a hold of you.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: You can catch me on social media. Marvin Power, the
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: third Marvin under Mike is my handle. You can catch
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: me here with the South Florida Tribune Tuesday evenings and
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: Wednesday mornings and Wednesday evenings as well Saturday mornings. You
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: can catch me on Lockdown USC twice a week. And
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: you can catch me on Roundtable with the Jags, the Bucks,
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: the Nuts and the Kings.
- 1:11:41Speaker 9: Go ahead, Tony, Oh yes, you can find me talking
- 1:11:45Speaker 9: Game one on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok Tony talking game on
- 1:11:53Speaker 9: YouTube Monday nights, I'm here talking baseball. Wednesdays have Talking
- 1:12:00Speaker 9: Game at three point thirty and then at nine o'clock.
- 1:12:03Speaker 9: You if I'm here on Sports Exchange Saturday, as you
- 1:12:06Speaker 9: will see my wrestling podcast in Mahomie Rainey h to
- 1:12:10Speaker 9: Ro for SmackDown and yeah, streaming live on all those
- 1:12:13Speaker 9: We're streaming live right now on Twitter, So make sure
- 1:12:15Speaker 9: y'all hit that repost for everybody like.
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: He reposts ours every so often when he's on Twitter.
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: Much appreciated. Well. Like I said, Mario Crysto Waldo man
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: on a mission. He really is. And the biggest thing
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: is is he preaches violence. That's the why he goes
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: out there and does things. So ye oh no, Chris
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: and Denny is a great story in Indiana. Has been
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: a great story. We'll never know, but there'll certainly be
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: some in Triagteb. But Miami has to take care of
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: business with old Miss I would not go ahead and
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: sell Old Miss short. There's gonna be they won't have
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: most of their coaches, but the two that I understand
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: that are coming back, Charlie Ways Junior, and I believe
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: Kevin Smith, right of the two that will be over
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: at the fiastable. All right, Scott, last but not leaves.
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: Go ahead. You're involved, did a lot and now the
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: chance to promote our joint endeavor.
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- 1:13:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the executive producer and broadcaster for all of
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: everything that goes on the air, Scott, glad to have
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- 1:13:48Speaker 1: spend those time progressors here in twenty twenty six. But
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: that said, Katie, go ahead and take us the rest
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