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Night Shift Ep.111 · HOLOSKY PODCAST

• 0:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's Wednesday, Holocaust, you know what that means.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are back, and this is the night shift, for though there's just a view listening to this on the podcast.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is where me and Kyle just do whatever we want.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have a topic.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We just talk.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you don't like that, you're not gonna like this.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dang.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: How is everybody?
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: welcome everyone all right off the ripplets uh to the youtube thing and make sure to like the show subscribe uh turn your notifications on try to combat that shadow band how's everyone doing
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Same here, same here.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just read and do some of the chat here.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Crypted cyclists was in SD on Saturday at the Dia de los deftones.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty dope.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, hype the show too.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can go over to the YouTube and our latest show.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: try to get us a little exposure.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did the three I atless come and abduct anyone?
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did they invade yet?
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's the number?
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, still nothing.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the 29th was supposed to be supposed to be the thing.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: 29th of October, right?
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's November.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did see a bunch of videos of weird stuff in the sky all over the place though.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen you UFO and, you know, anomalous objects.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kind of buzzing around here and there, Florida, and so on and so forth.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think they're already here anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're probably not even from space.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're all looking, looking in space and they're probably just, you know, under the ocean, yeah, I did see.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: some guy talking about the 8th ocean that it was all types of fucked up like he's like the creatures in here like I don't even really have words to describe and he's like there was one being that came by the ship a little submarine or whatever and it was like a transparent being more like creatures shouldn't say being but this damn thing just went right to the
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: that like manifested through the walls.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just like a ghost would, like, slime or just brooop.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You fucking terrifying.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Very, very ghost-like.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Tize, size, kind of, size that in.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple things that I'm gonna watch too.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, I wish I could, I don't know if I sent it to you or if I sent it to myself.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was something on the CIA guy coming out.
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: alien human hybrids and he's like does it's it's a definite like that's a that's a hundred percent of thing that's that's terrifying yeah even saying that which we kind of we kind of done episodes on it before about there being programs like the genetics programs where they follow the kids to their life remember that guy that we did went on and he was basically
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: bread to talk to aliens and shit and they guided us whole life all about.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that's basically what this CIA guy was saying, like he's like, they were able to accept instead of, I guess like creating the hybrids, the CIA was able to track the family lineages of hybrids.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a, it's kind of reminiscent of like the Super Soldier program, where Max, Max Spears kind of kind of hinted at the same thing, and that they could track and kind of like almost influence.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: like the lives of the people in the program because he said he would he would travel the different cities for like reasons not even pertaining to the program and when he would show up there other people like he would find out later other people that were in the program were also like at the same airport or at the same mall like he would run into them and see them almost
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: like from the same source or some shit and what's crazy like that's a crazy thought to me that some outside force that you're not even aware of as the ability to guide and sway your life where they want you to go right and I bring that up because to me that's eerily reminiscent
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I know that it has such a bad rap and it obviously attracts very interesting individuals.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I do believe it's real.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It just that sometimes I believe that people think that it's happening to them, it's not happening to them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be curious as to see like, but then again, how do you prove it anyways?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because, you know, we might be the assholes for saying that it might actually be happening.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're, because, you know, one would, you know, ask the question, how would you be chosen for a gang stocking program?
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're, we see surface level.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't, you know, if they legitimately are tracking bloodlines and lineages, maybe that's why.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's wrong place, wrong fucking time, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I believe those things happen too, where they're like, you know what, this person.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You always hear about it, the undesirables, the ones who aren't going to be missed.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that has something to do with it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe they're like, you know, let's pick a family man and see what happens when we do it to a family man.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what happens when we do it to a teacher.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what happens when we do it to a mechanic.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think I think that those things are possible.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it definitely, and the fact that the lines blur between like supposed mental illness and gang stocking, it's very convenient.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's very convenient cover that they kind of... And you're right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that could be a whole another reason is to why you would select someone.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even think about that, but that's a excellent fuckin' point.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's weird.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who was it?
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a YouTuber named Nick Crowley and he always does, like, uh, obviously YouTube videos, but on, like, disturbing YouTube channels or something and there was this guy.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember when it was.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a early tooth.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I was in 2003, 2013 something like that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, he created this YouTube channel, and he was going on this rant about this mega church pastor that was like, he thought it started to cold and it was indoctrinated and his dad and all this stuff like, and it was only one video.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the guy seemed, the guy seemed like,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, obviously concerned for the well-being of his parents, but he also seemed like excited to start his channel, and was like talking about future projects and stuff.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then within two days, this guy had just, like, they found this whole website about him just going off on this, like, this cult.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And within two days, he had just lost it and went on a shooting rampage.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: like, no, no like warning signs, no nothing just snapped.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So makes you wonder like, what, like, if that may have been part of that case, or that's a tough one because I believe it could be influence, but I also believe that
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: The human psyche has the ability to crack at a moment's notice.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's also very true.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because we, I think, I think we've all, not, not obviously not to those degrees, but I think we've all been to that point where we're just kind of like existing in life.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden, some mundane as thing happens.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it just kind of throws us over the edge.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, and it's not even that big of a deal, but then it happens.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And your mind just breaks and you feel it inside where you want to smash the walls and And shit, but you just most people don't they control it, you know.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to find what I feel like I need to get that guy at TV.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I see a lot of videos for that man.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's a bunch of really good shit on there.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I see a bunch of reels and stuff from it.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm trying to think of what else I got.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of three eye outless stuff that I think keeps changing.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're saying that now that it's kind of swung itself around from the sun.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: That it is like increasing and decreasing its speed and they're saying it's.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like it's not dependent on gravitational pulls, so it would have its own like propulsion system.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I saw Neil deGrasse Tyson say, they're all just insane and it's just a comment.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, problems solved.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: We solved it.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, it was kind of funny.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a title either, it was.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'm torn on it.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have, I don't have $80 on fucking comments and what they can do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Me either.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, until it lands and little loincloth wearing cavemen with rocks crawl out of it, like it's just a comment to me.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But I did see, I have seen a lot of weird fucking videos on it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen where someone was talking about how I created
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like a barrier around itself somehow.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw that it's possibly or it's possibility that back in the 70s, like 1977.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was one of those wow signals.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It gets sent out.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And we get a response from something out there that says we will be there in the future.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So on and so forth, a lot of people are thinking
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw where turn open the portal and made communications with three I Atlas.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of shit on three I Atlas right now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to follow.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like what's what?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like you like you said, I don't know nothing about comments.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a cosmatologist.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And like that's the other thing kind of what, you know, birds have just said, but there's been all those dope ass pictures of supposedly three eye outlets and looking like a damn spaceship.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: But at this point, you have no fucking clue.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: where we're lost at this point as far as yeah it's it's over.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and they have convincing videos of cash with RPGs.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're uh we're kind of shit Creek.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah do remember when we were like young.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: say like in the early 90s in elementary school and stuff and like we were always just waiting for like that one piece of evidence to prove UFOs existed to prove aliens.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to prove big physics and it was always going to be a video.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't trust the pictures because you know pictures could be manipulated but now you can't trust the video.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've also seen I think it's like diet TV.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen this guy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a CIA guy.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll see.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guys apparently hang out on guy, but they were talking about the skinny Bob alien footage.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm talking about and I guess he was a video guy and he's like this video has never been officially debunked and if it is fake at a time that it would have been created
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would have been the highest echelons with those capabilities.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because he's basically saying, I don't think it's fake.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's real.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like the way that he's talking about the way the eyes were articulating and stuff like that.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, this is crazy.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: This should and this should not have been possible at the time when this video came out.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're just come terrifying.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have a kind of fucking cool too.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dang, I'm trying to find a picture of him, but it's just a bunch of videos.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if I play a video, we'll probably get flagged.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go to a skinny pub.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's one.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wish we had.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to know, I guess I could YouTube it.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I've been seeing these fucking nerds, and I say that respectfully, fucking nerds using Dows and Ros to make communication with shit.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need to figure out how to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's getting you, Bob.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I always, that's getting you, Bob.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I never saw a full body of mine.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I only ever just remember seeing his head and him talking.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was a whole, uh,
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: a whole video and it looked like for the time it came out it's pretty convincing it's gonna be a good fake gonna be a motherfucker looks like he's from the 70s the sweet ass turtle neck and shit yeah got full full body suit on he's probably on that 70s show look how long his arms are yeah just like almost scratches me stand up yeah just unnatural
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you don't look that scary to me.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looks like he could be fall easy.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if he's got a name skinny Bob, I mean, it's probably all right.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's better than like, name him Brock Lesnar.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have this whole video.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's everywhere.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just type in skinny Bob.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can find the video.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably a bunch of videos that aren't real too.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure, but, you know, that's whatever.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder when that came out, actually, now that I'm now that you got that on the internet.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just remember it kind of making it, like it flowed through YouTube.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a long time.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know that.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a bunch of skinny Bob stuff.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: When did?
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Skinny Bob video come out.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: According to, yeah, Skinny Bob video was first released online in 2011 by YouTuber name Ivan 0135.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Video which appears to show a captured alien spark debate about its authenticity.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some people believe it to be really footage and others claiming it to be hoax made with special effects.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, twist was twist was the Jamie.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't zero one three five sounds like someone who would get that video.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody needs an interview.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't zero one three five.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is what we need to do.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look at twizz.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twizz is on it.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twizz is fat head.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twizz, are you Ivan zero one three five?
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen twizz and Ivan zero one three five in the same room at the same time just a good point it's a good point.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's high odds that twizz is five in.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I wish you'd be a pillar in the UFO alien community that's for sure.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's no doubt.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Be very controversial subject.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: No doubt.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: to us as a big foot, Wong Ripper.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know something about that.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, I also believe that.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there have been, like, especially within the last couple weeks, a ton of updates on weird missing person stories, like, specifically ones that like, I don't know that I'm necessarily covered, but ones that I've talked about, anybody that like,
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Delves into the missing 401, one case isn't stuff.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: These are some prominent missing person cases that like kind of revolver on that.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just within the last like two weeks.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: some have really taken a turn.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So first I'm going to talk about a man by the name of Jesse Farber, who lived in Pennsylvania.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: In 2015, he got, or his girlfriend got a frantic phone call, said that he was chased up a tree by a pack of coyotes.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: They said, call for help, you know, bring some guns,
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: They did some searching like then then he just disappeared, right?
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So isn't that a weird thing for coyotes to do like tree a human probably?
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I feel like I feel like coyotes mostly avoid people.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah That's what I mean, I think especially a human.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know like a pack of a Mike a little ram bump Just but I don't think I've ever heard anything like that.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, because the girlfriend got the call and said he was being chased up a tree by some coyotes and he had helped, the search has started and after his disappearance, searches were conducted and then in December of 2016, Hunter found his sweatpants up in a tree with a backpack even higher up in the same tree.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, he was way up there.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway,
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: very weird case, but they did just find and identify his remains.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no shit.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and that's unfortunate.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm assuming in the same area.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me look here.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: When did you go missing again?
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, everybody in the chat is saying that it's definitely
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me look here, I'll share this.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I hate sharing stuff because there's like 10 billion ads on any of this stuff.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the internet has kind of stuck past several years because ads are fucking everywhere.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then I'm like, I don't know what kind of ads are going to pop up and then, all right, whatever, all those do it.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So make sure this is going, okay?
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Partial human remains identified as of that is that of two who disappeared on a mysterious circumstances a decade ago, just a Farber 29 of to mock what Pennsylvania vanished on August 11, 2015, this past July, group of ATV writers came across human remains close to the path they were writing on according to the Pennsylvania State Police.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were positively identified as belonging to a Farber.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to see if it says how close he was found to where they thought he would be or where his stuff was found.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Say his sweatpants were in the tree.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking weird.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: In a backpack.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can understand the backpack, but removing your pants.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no offense.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that even being large and doing the helicopters
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is an interview with his mother of his children, girlfriend at the time, a few weeks ago, while searching for Jesse a group of dedicated volunteers, do we discover several bones in an interview with News Nation.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said to me that he had to do something on his own, and basically when he dealt with that, that everything would be OK, and he'd come back home, and we'd be together again, Carol recalled, which made me worry even more because it seemed like there was definitely something going on.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was really scared, and as the phone call went on, he got worse and more terrified.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He told me to bring guns, and that he was in a tree with 10 to 11 coyotes after him.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: She said during an interview over the summer with local station WOLF.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hear any noises, it was very quiet in the background, it didn't sound like he was running or even in the woods.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't hear the wind, bugs, leaves, rustling.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: He described being in two separate mountains before the call dropped.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then he was never heard from again something sounds a little saucy with this weird Yeah, because I'm I'm with I'm usually on Brother John's side well not always sometimes me and John have healthy debates, but I Just feel like that behaviors extremely odd for a coyote.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I have seen them Try to lure dogs in
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I still feel like even even a big pack of them for the most part, they avoid us.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the tree one is super bizarre to me.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could see if they were starving.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Them trying, but think about it too.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Steve, like me, anybody in the chat?
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do this here and communicate.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are the odds that you outrun a pack of fucking coyotes?
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't outrunnin' nothin'.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: See, that's what I've said, dude.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Give them coyotes wanted me.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fucked.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You see me running.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a lot more.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be lucky standing next to the tree that they don't get me.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, outies are fast.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everything on this planet is faster than us.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: by us a couple things.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Turtles.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't stick around.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm laying down.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm running, there's something worse than a coyote behind me.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking like polar bear.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: dog man I'm probably run from dog man a polar bear I probably run from yeah polar bears will eat us without question I dog man will make good internet if I fight it me find a polar bear people are going to be like you're an idiot yeah why do you fight that polar bear yeah here you're dumbass and I was I would kick the coyote
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's also weird that he was like, I've got to do this on my own and like the whole set up of everything is weird something's weird.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he didn't know where he was.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm in this mountain.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm in this.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 26:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's weird.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's definitely some of those drains going on this us.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I thought that was interesting while it doesn't necessarily like,
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: bring light on to what happened to him.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: You, there is some closure that he was like, found, right?
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, logically speaking, assuming the dude's not on fucking drugs.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: If let's just say it happens.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just say the odds are not in your favor.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Lady Fortune is fucking you.
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're being chased by a super packed of coyotes.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're fast enough.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You get away.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You climb up a tree.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't like, all right, cool.
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Coyotes.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't climb trees.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fair.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why in the fuck would you take your pants off and get out of the tree?
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: What if they all morphed into one giant coyote?
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was hoping you were going to say they pyramid stacked.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And got up to it.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then if that happened, I understand why you took your pants off and jumped out of the tree.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that's because he was already up in the tree.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, he was because they said the pants were up in the tree in the back, back was higher in the tree.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not have to be that high to get away from coyotes.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you're six feet, you're you're good.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: They probably have a little bit, but you're good.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So.
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's weird.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's strange.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's interesting.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's definitely shenanigans.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was, like, did I apologize when my brain gets scattered?
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did they say it was like super cold?
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where he was at?
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Could I feel like if you're just wearing sweatpants, it might be chilly, but it ain't that fucking cold.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let me see when he moves.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not so much.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You do an Olympic sprint for your life
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... ninja warrior and up a tree uh... you're going to be you're warm it's the middle uh... he went missing an august oh yeah see see and that's what i think is twizz kept saying that the cold make people do dumb shit now he would i said i couldn't remember if if it looks specifically stated it was cold august eleven twenty fifteen so pretty toasty out pretty toasty out
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... the next one that had an update well not not any kind of closure update but it is probably significant to the case is uh... anybody falls any missing persons things have to have heard of the branch a for case uh... the guy was
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I went missing in 2006, went out with a bunch of his friends, walked into this bar, the ugly tuna saluna in Columbus, Ohio, I think, to celebrate the beginning of spring break, he was 27 at the time, they have all sorts of video evidence of him walking into this bar and nobody sees him again.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're a dick.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's much appreciated.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you're a dickless.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, brother John.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we appreciate you, man.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was I talking about?
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know how to do.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Magically despair from a bar.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's all this video of it.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And to him walking into the bar, and then never comes back out.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: There you two, big guy.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just disappears.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: from the face of the planet forever.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: They go through all the CCTV footage.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have footage like from all around the building.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Although there's no possible, outside of being, like we've seen in cases where people, I'll just say, get luggageed out.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm talking about.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was so, like, they went through and they interviewed everybody that was in the bar that night, they went through,
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: each individual person walking out to make sure that he didn't change his clothes and sneak away and disappear the whole nine or so they thought because just this week a construction worker came forward with pictures of picture evidence of a I don't know how many exits there were anyway another exit that was blocked by scaffolding that apparently everybody
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: including the police, including everyone investigating it.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, why didn't you come forward before this?
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, I thought people knew about it.
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was construction going on and they blocked and exit with just some scaffolding.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, if you can walk through it, just find the prior wasn't block that much.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, but it's kind of shaking the case up now that he even had like picture evidence from 2006 of this extra exit that they were working on that nobody thought to keep an eye.
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there was no like CCTV footage in that area, not that I've heard of.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because of anything to ditch a blind date.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did they find the guy?
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, the guy that went Brian Chaser Mill.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's just he's just out there and win somewhere.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or not.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just gone.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's, it makes me, it makes me wonder what was going on in his life.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if he was running from something,
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing he was going to college, it was spring break.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: They said he was in fairly good spirits, aside from something was going on with his mother.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if she was diagnosed with cancer or something of the sort, but that was like the one big catalyst in his life that was going on.
• 32:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll read you the Wikipedia about his disappearance.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: On March 31st, a Friday classes at OSU ended for Spring Break, Shafer and his father Randy celebrated the occasion by having a steak dinner early that evening.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shafer's father noted that he seemed exhausted from having studied through the night earlier in the week, cramming for his upcoming exams.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did not think Shafer should go out with his friend, William Clamp Florence, later that night as he planned to do, but he did not express
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: his reservations to a son at 9 p.m. Sheafer met Florence at the ugly tuna saluna, a bar in the south campus, get away complex on high street in Columbus.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And our later Sheafer called Wagner, who had returned to her home, until he'd go to visit her family before she and Sheafer were too depart for Miami.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming Wagner was his girlfriend.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sheafer and Florence went bar hopping, visiting several other drink establishments and working their way down to the arena district.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: The two had one shot each of hard liquor according to Florence.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: After midnight, Shafer and Florence met Meredith Reed, a friend of Florence, in the short North.
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Three gave him a ride back to the ugly Tunisaluna, where they had started the night, and joined them for their last round.
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shafer separated from his companions while the three were there, and was last seen on a security camera outside the bar just before 2am.
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Florence and Reed attempted to find Shafer repeatedly calling him.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They left with other patrons when the bar closed at 2am waiting outside for Schaefer.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: When he was not among the departing crowd, they assumed that he had returned to his apartment without letting them know.
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wagner and Schaefer's father tried calling him later that week minute weekend, but didn't get an answer on Monday morning.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He missed a flight to Miami where he and Wagner are scheduled to meet on before.
• 34:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was then reported missing to the Columbus Police
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh said that he was seen on multiple security cameras both inside and outside of the building uh one fifty five he was seen outside the bar talking briefly to two young women saying goodbye the moving off camera the camera did not record him leaving shortly afterward when the ugly tuna salina closed this was the last time that Shafer was seen
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But apparently there is another exit in the bar that every day may have slipped out of yeah or got carried out of yeah.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So make sure that's definitely strange I got one more no go ahead real quick addressing hoodies essentially.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now there's no official crowdfunding thing for yet.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: However, essentially all we need to do is settle on a design.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all really Steve and I need to do a settle on a design.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we can, I believe through customers who we use generally for all of our prints.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they have, it's not so much a crowdfunding thing.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's essentially,
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: like a pre-order system is what it comes down to.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where you guys would do it, you'd go ahead and pay for it and then, you know, they'll go from there.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because like I said, Stephen, I've talked about countless times when it comes to merch, it's not about us making money.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's about us getting as close to break even as possible.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't mind losing a couple bucks here and there.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have no problem with that.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: As long as we get close to break even, we're straight.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all, that's a, and like Steve is actually looked into some of the old you call them, like fulfillment places.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they've kind of been like, I think for me, personally, I think Steve kind of feels the same way.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're the cons slightly outweigh the pros to it.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: we're a big fan of quality.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like with our merch like that be that to our detriment or not like we don't want you guys wearing stuff that we wouldn't wear.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: What it boils down to and then you pay for it.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: When it comes through something like custom ink, we can kind of get to choose the quality of the product we're putting out.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas like having what's it called, I can't remember the exact name for it, but where it's just like print to order.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't get to choose, you
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: The other thing that's really not, I'm not that comfortable with.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's not a huge deal, but just it makes a mess.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is like the way Steve was explaining it to me was that whenever you guys would order a shirt, it would actually charge me and Steve that amount until, I guess until their payment goes through or whatever, and then it's just unnecessary cycle.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: that they do with billing, which to me just does not make sense.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because if you guys are paying for the item, why do we need to be charged?
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cause it's like, it's almost like, wordcharts the item, your money comes to us then we have to pay them from the money that you sent us.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like they make us an unnecessary middleman for zero fucking reason.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, yeah, what else are they going to say?
• 38:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's something else I was going to say about the hoodies but I forgot.
• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if that works out good, because we can, I really want, like I hear you conspiracy and I really want to try the customing thing because if that works out good, that might be another way that we could do merch drops without Steven I have in the shovel out shit loads of money.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because when you do it that way,
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: mail all the stuff too.
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: They take care of all that as well.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like so it might be a way to like, you know, maybe there's a design that's, that's rad and we can just get it out that way instead of having to put a ton of money up front.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like I said, whenever it's even I buy merch, we usually spend about a grand and a half every time we buy stuff.
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we don't have buckloads of monies.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got to buy it in bulk.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like in that, you're limited to designs because we've got quite a few designs where I'm touring around with when you buy a bulk, you pretty much limited to one or two designs a year.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously we ship everything from in house.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you've got back stock and stuff you've got to deal with and kind of a whole kind of whole thing.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the fucking post office is being weird as fuck here lately, they've been kind of get like I've had people in there that have been absolutely great, but now they're they're like last time I went in there they were like scolding me for stuff and I'm like I kind of started getting snippy and I'm genuinely not like them, but it was just so petty.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like when the fuck did this start?
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, it's never like, that's never like, well, you know, this print off label, it could fall off.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It could do that.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, it's never done that before.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's never done that.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you should all, you have to write it out and then you change your mind to like you should write it out.
• 40:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, just ship my shit.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just please.
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: For the love God.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do your fucking job.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: You make really good money.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: really easy job helped me out be my friend the last lady that was in there never once never bless her heart never once gave me a lick of problems ever she was smiling she was happy to see me she knew what I was mailing when i'm thinking man in and out every fucking time and then here lately they've just been dumb
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the other thing, too, that's getting fucked up with all the shutdowns.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So international shipping is going to be a mother fucker.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some places just nice not going to happen.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And from up mind you, it gets me and Steve Luzer, Luzer asses on that.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Luzer asses bad on that.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just know that every international package that we send, we pay for.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: New Zealand, I think it was New Zealand, which is dope, and the dude got his stuff, so that's great.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It cost us $40 to ship a hat in a shirt.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need to think about training some homing pigeons.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know how they used to tie little messages to them.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can just put huddies on them and send it.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that idea.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've got some, we got like a whole bunch of designs where I'm messing around with.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the one benefit of a print order shop.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can put as many designs as you want on whatever you want and kind of go from there but there are a lot of cons when it comes to that too.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, I don't know.
• 43:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we've talked about like having a print shop and also doing
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like the website when we can afford it.
• 43:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like a, you know, sort of decide like, everybody know.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: We do things kind of backwards here.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna do do things that probably more difficult way than most people do it.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just because we have to get.
• 43:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I get that, but there's also like I'll be honest, when it comes to that type of shit,
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's two reasons why I prefer it.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: One is simply pride.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy, even though I'll be honest, there are some nights, it is fucking overwhelming.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I told Steve, there are some nights as much as I love Hollow Sky and everything about it.
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are some nights I just wanna come home and watch fish and videos or watch TV or play with my kids or whatever.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to turn all of it off, but regardless of that, pride is a huge thing.
• 44:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Being able to say that this is what Stephen I do.
• 44:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is the love and everything and the pride in our work that we have that we do it all by hand.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the other thing is I feel like it's more intimate and meaningful that Stephen I put that much time and effort
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know sometimes I'm late, like there have been people who have ordered shit, and I've taken two weeks to get it out.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I apologize for that shit.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I always, and like, you know, Steve knows, you guys order shit, I put as many free stickers in there as I fucking can.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I'll specifically have stickers made that are not on the website that go in the packages for free because everybody loves free stickers with their shit.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that is a good point, like a testament to what we build, yeah, you know, yeah, like, and I understand for the, you know, the people that outsource it.
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do, but I just, I don't know.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just have a lot of pride in the thing.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I take a lot of pride in the shit that I do and I don't know.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've always said, you know, I want to be different than everybody else.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to jump on the mainstream.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if me and Steve do ever make it, I want it.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to make it our way, you know, not, not everybody.
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to sell out.
• 45:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to fucking be a buster.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to make it our way and say, we made it our fucking way.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's proof that you can do it.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: It takes longer.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's a lot more work that you can make your way.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just, you gotta keep fucking going.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Buster free since 2019, that should be the hoodie.
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what's up.
• 46:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it gives a lot of time and work.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think people understand that.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it is.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can say they get stressful.
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's stressful in its own way.
• 46:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as everybody notices, like we are not, we are not.
• 46:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's where I'm looking for.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like very boastful hosts, like we are very modest.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure if you're in who we are and what we have and we're very humble, extremely humble, I think, we joke around and have ego sometimes, but, and actually, I was thinking about earlier, I was surprised we don't have more smoke in the community than we do.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, we don't have, we don't have smoke either, though.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's it's like we're quarantined kind of is really it's like no, they're like, uh, uh, got those guys really in my those guys.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They said effort a lot.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is that is the other thing that kind of blows my mind is and I know like you meet come from different walks of life and a lot of people.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You meet come from rough next.
• 47:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Ruffnex always talk like sailors, right?
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like at our jobs, it's full of profanity.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 47:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just like that's just to me, it's crazy.
• 47:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now don't get me wrong.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do see people that weigh over use those words.
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You do kind of get annoyed by it and over time.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get that, but uh, clean up our actual lot.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have, yeah, well, that's a couple of years.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Getting professional.
• 47:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's, it's while buying you there are podcasts out there that Stephen I will not work with.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's, you know what, maybe it might be a little mutual.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there, there's definitely some mutual ground out there.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: We know that for a fact.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And conspiracy chaos, we're we're setting up now that like the weather starting to get more implement and we're kind of tied more tied into our like houses and stuff.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're setting up our interviews.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're setting up guest spots all kinds of stuff.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been like the last couple of days.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been doubling down.
• 48:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that that's a way we can kind of switch the show up a little bit get some get some guests on here.
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Take a take.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Steve's got some pretty fucking interesting ones lined up so you brought by storm.
• 48:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we will.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's time man.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's time.
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think we we have far more insight than we did in the beginning.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know, it's not you, conspiracy.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were, we weren't.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, not at all.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's only, I can only think about about four shows.
• 49:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And two of them we've worked with and two and we haven't.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you'll never see those shows again on our show.
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ever.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's, it goes for all four.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck them.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some, some people,
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, you just don't fuck with homies.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all.
• 49:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all there's to it.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You just don't fuck with the homies.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't be a buster.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't fuck with the homies.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I am getting some stuff lined up.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some of them sounds super dope too.
• 49:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 49:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a good time.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a good time.
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get them lined up.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it's going to be rad, man.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to open some doors.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It'll alleviate some of the stress on me and Steve because we want the right as much.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, I think it's a net positive all the way around.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's not a world we're going to abandon the research shit either because there's always room to grow.
• 50:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: But.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It gives us, it gives us a break because, like, we're what almost 400 episodes deep.
• 50:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, of the research show we are at three, 40, I believe.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's a lot of deep dives.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of looking in this stuff.
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: In the night shift, we're on 111 now.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you're talking
• 50:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we got 50, 50, 52 Patreon exclusives.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a bunch there too.
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, figure this.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, I know like when the weather resets cause we're about at the end of it, but I'm serious about it, I'm trying to talk to even to do it with me, but me and Steve go on fishing adventures and basically do a night shift while we're fishing and then put that on Patreon.
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: of essentially night shift plus fishing, I think it'd be a good time on average how much time do we spend research between research had depends honestly.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It really does.
• 51:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: It depends on if like depends on the sources I'm using, if I'm going through a book, I don't read fast.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I was going to say too, is that if it's book related material, it takes, I like generally speaking, if I'm looking at a book, I do have standards.
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's most of the time it has to be less than 300 pages.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I generally speaking, I have to have at least a week to get through half of that book.
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times I don't retain knowledge that well, so if I'm like in like if I'm not reading and noting at the same time, if I'm just like locked in reading something like holy shit.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is very interesting when I go back to like right notes about it all forgot in it so then I have to like go back and double take it so if I'm doing that it takes me a while and it is hard like I've even tried I have a I have a tablet.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I have a candle on there and I've even tried taking, I'm just because I'm the same way Steve, I've even tried taking that to work because I'm not, you cannot, I cannot not say anything you guys can't, I cannot type fast on our tablet.
• 52:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's annoying to me.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can type fast on the keyboard.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't do it on tablet.
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what I was trying to do is read at work, then come home and write, but I don't retain enough of it, which drives me fucking crazy.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because when it comes to some of the stuff,
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: get those details.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I also tried as I'm reading, Kindle has a highlight feature, highlight ship.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then again, I still have to go back and read it and then write it again.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like so it's just
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just it's not smart for me.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work well.
• 53:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And our our show scripts like I call them scripts, but they're not verbatim for the most part.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're usually just snippets of information and stuff.
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I do with mine.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're just kind of ad lib it as I'm going through.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But those usually credits with them.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have to try sometime.
• 53:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: those usually range anywhere from like a good ballpark is 2,500 to 3,000 words.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's like, that's like an essay.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes like the ironically enough Steven I have made a 1500 word at the so it's region hour.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there's been time where we've had 5,000 word episodes cut off in 40 minutes.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, it just kind of like everything depends on the banter Stephen I have everything depends on that.
• 54:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a and usually
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Usually, I usually probably, probably a week worth of research between researching, writing, and like I said, it depends on what kind of sources we're using.
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: The internet's easy because you can cut and copy stuff and kind of put that in your notes as opposed to like reading and articulating it and then typing it out.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: See, that's how I do it.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a lot of...
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I read it and articulated my thoughts onto the thing.
• 54:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll cut it and then I'll re-artigulate it later that way I like Steve's better Steve's Steve's brain is way better doing that on the fly than mine.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I like when I read I have a hard time.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do large paragraphs or I get lost in them.
• 55:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I have to do essentially like three sentences and then space it and then three sentences and then space it.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of as if not I get I get lost.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It'll make fun of me because it'll be like falling on my notes.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the stuff I'm saying is not the stuff I'm reading.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, 100%.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just changes.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 55:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and which is great.
• 55:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's great thing to have.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't have that.
• 55:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why a lot of times when I present, I'm very focused on my notes because as I do want the banter and I do appreciate the banter, but what happens in my brain is my brain unpugs from what I was reading.
• 55:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then as I go back to it from the banter, now I have to reengage and I have no idea where I'm at, get lost, and then I'll go, I do that too sometimes.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's, it's, like, it's hard for me.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it definitely depends on our sources, but usually it's a good, it's usually takes a week like we're, I feel like it's safe to say we're still researching Friday night before we record Saturday night.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oddly enough, did you see that message where we got invited to come teach the local library had a podcast.
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I did see that.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to tell you that I was going to say something to you about the African workers because I didn't read it, Sean I brought it up to me and I was like, I was like, when did that come to him?
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's like earlier today.
• 56:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, that's weird.
• 56:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that could be cool.
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're like, can you come and talk about podcasting or at least show us how to work our equipment?
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like, God is the tech lords.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll show up sometime.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind.
• 56:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 56:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll have to message them back and be like if you're not too hard.
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's good to go there.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really depends.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And actually we've been we've almost got for.
• 56:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We almost got the offer to go teach at a local college.
• 56:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: That one time you remember that?
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they were talking about maybe having us come in at the local college.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, for the for like podcasting for podcasting.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do remember that then they probably listen to me say the effort a lot and said, yeah, they're probably.
• 57:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, not we're going to go ahead and retract that.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: are more professional person than on the show.
• 57:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: But we are and I'm getting some interviews lined up.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've got a couple scheduled.
• 57:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that should be something new and different.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And without giving too much, give us synopsis.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: quick breakdown of the possible interviews in the future.
• 57:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 57:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: One that I do have scheduled already that will be coming in the future is a fellow reached out to me about this entity that he has been contacting the
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so it just always like hijacks to conversation.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 58:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's awesome.
• 58:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: At one point, it's when I feel like when he was in college, I don't know.
• 58:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: He sent me a synopsis of things.
• 58:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: When he was in college, his roommate was using it and this specific entity asked for him specifically.
• 58:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh shit.
• 58:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be a heater.
• 58:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's do.
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got a guy from Southern Illinois who has some squashes that live on his property.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's he's had some encounters with them.
• 58:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to come on and talk.
• 58:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised.
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a regular here.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's always in the chat and stuff.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not hanging out tonight.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: But uh, I'm going to get him on.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've got one line up that is going to be a heater, heater if we can get our time.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: He lives in a different country.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to, we get our time set up.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: This dude is.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a hard ass.
• 58:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's legit.
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's seen aliens.
• 59:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has broken into some very famous military bases.
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It should be, it should be pretty cool.
• 59:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's funny.
• 59:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because I came across
• 59:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I saw the one where he got arrested making it into the military base.
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I like, I like this dude style.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's try to get him on.
• 59:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't remember if I read you out to him and he didn't hit me back.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I may have just commented on this YouTube video.
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: But didn't hear anything back.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then here just today, he popped into our Facebook.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And was like, hey, I love to be a guest.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, this is a weird full circle kind of thing going on.
• 59:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, fuck yeah, let's do it.
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We also got some.
• 59:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some of their shows were planning on going on or doing like a swap cast with like the conspiracy chaos guys here.
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Going to get on them and who else do we got?
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I emailed midnight in the mountains back.
• 1:00:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a nice try to get there is a cold of conspiracy.
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll have to try to link with there's a couple of different ones that are going to start
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're just going to switch up things a little bit, see if I can't open some new doors, put us on some new years and stuff.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it will, and I just think that at this time in our evolution, I think it's time.
• 1:00:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think through all the research we've done, we've gained so much insight and then not to mention listening and communicating with the community.
• 1:00:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Them, you know, putting new ideas in our heads
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's time.
• 1:00:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's time that I was guy as a whole, which you guys included, start pushing this bracket.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we just, you know, and we start climbing that mountain.
• 1:01:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Evolve a little bit.
• 1:01:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, we kind of started this show to like for the purpose of like, getting people's experiences.
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: right like we wanted to be a platform where we could share that and it's kind of like it's kind of evolved into like a research based show we kind of want to get back to like the original plan of being having people giving people a place to come on and like share their weird shit you know which we were going to do that with the night shift but that kind of got convoluted after a little while and
• 1:01:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we base we actually schedule interviews and give people in and we can talk to them about their their stuff.
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's going to be pretty cool.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did see the Ryan Ryan from AI is back and grinded now.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he reached out to us several times without the hook back up with him at some point.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's cool to see him back back and doing it.
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like I said, you're all going to have to work with us.
• 1:02:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Our schedules are really fucked.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I work making it work.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to try our best.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like I said, start starting knocking on some doors.
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what happens.
• 1:02:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: We can't get ourselves into the weird shit.
• 1:02:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:02:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's there's definitely still room for us to grow.
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's, that's where I want to see this.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see this growing.
• 1:02:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said last time about, you know, I turned into a solid part time job.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I got to thinking about it.
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, actually, I just want to, I want to stay on that train of just seeing and continual growth.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Money's kind of irrelevant.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the money helps to do the merge and all that shit.
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: But outside of that, you know, growth.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to see how I was going to keep growing.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see that people with the right mentality can make a difference.
• 1:03:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I want to see.
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't think that there are many people out there like Steve and I.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to prove that good people can do the right thing and still make a difference.
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do believe is that the same one column in the mountains is a surname, Laura.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe so.
• 1:03:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know.
• 1:03:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I believe so.
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we're going to try to hook up with her and I'm just waiting for an email back.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Take a took me a while to get to her because like our schedules have been so crazy, but we're kind of.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I do genuinely think that our community is unmatched with that anyone.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean that in our fist, I don't think, I don't think that I know that there are a lot of people out there that have way, way bigger communities than we do, but I don't think there's our solid as ours.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they have the connection that we do, you know, I'll I'll put us up on a pedestal there like we keep in pretty good pretty good standing in communication with the call.
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I mean, I think it's cool that they they're growing alongside us.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not just us growing.
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is weird now they said it out loud.
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're like,
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're kind of sort of quarantine from a lot of the circles.
• 1:04:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: We are, and I, there's a part of me that likes that.
• 1:05:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because the circles, whether you guys know or not, the circles have a lot of drama.
• 1:05:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're really cool.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even I don't really like drama.
• 1:05:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Drama free unless unless we're causing it.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Since 2019, outside of that, we're not big in a drama.
• 1:05:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And another thing that is apparent in the podcasting, we'll believe it or not, and it's kind of mind numbing the set at least.
• 1:05:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're just a lot of fucky.
• 1:05:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of fucking egos.
• 1:05:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the podcast community, which is kind of fucking crazy to me.
• 1:05:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, because at the end of the day like not trying to talk shit, but
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like there's not five billion, eight billion God damn people on the planet that can listen to any show that they want to and multiple shows believe it or not, they can listen to more than one show.
• 1:06:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like literally at this point, I'm blessed.
• 1:06:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm blessed.
• 1:06:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can legitimately, like just the other day, listen to one of my favorite podcasts, right?
• 1:06:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's
• 1:06:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: fucking episode was almost six hours long.
• 1:06:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got it done in a day.
• 1:06:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: In a day.
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's because I legitimately get to listen to my headphones all day long at work.
• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you listen to more than one show, Kyle?
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: believe it or not, I do what I do I do you're telling me unless I hyper binge one show let me get this straight let me get this straight so you're telling me that people that listen to podcasts have not only the opportunity but also the ability to like more than one show
• 1:06:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's true.
• 1:07:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's I know it's I understand it can be hard, but it's you can you can do this is then I thought if you subscribe to your favorite podcast all the other podcasts this weird off the internet It's weird it is weird it's fucking weird it is weird.
• 1:07:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is weird.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just I don't know man.
• 1:07:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just I really kind of focusing on just being awesome dealing you have no idea
• 1:07:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: it's crazy dude.
• 1:07:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the music scene I kind of get.
• 1:07:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of get the music scene, especially, I think this is the icing on the cake.
• 1:07:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: The age group of the music scene, 100%.
• 1:07:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:07:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:07:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of testosterone, a lot of egos.
• 1:07:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:07:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll get weird, dude, I just, I don't know.
• 1:08:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's weird, man.
• 1:08:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're all fighting for tablet scraps.
• 1:08:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not even that.
• 1:08:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're fighting over a buffet.
• 1:08:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's an infinite amount of listeners, like,
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: that's true.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just thought like what what they're fighting over is a relevant is basically what I'm getting.
• 1:08:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's like they're looking at they're not looking at it like you're looking at it like I'm looking at it.
• 1:08:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're looking at it as like they're the top dogs fucker and it's just a weird fucking mentality in the podcast world.
• 1:08:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is weird because like I'll be honest with you.
• 1:08:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be honest with you.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's still kind of nerdy to say podcast.
• 1:08:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right in my right in my right.
• 1:08:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I used to give that a lot of work being the podcast guy But not anymore.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now they're just like, hey, that's kind of cool.
• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah And it's it's not all like that don't get me wrong.
• 1:08:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's some there are some solid shows out there doing their thing Just just staying in their lane grinding six like one of you know one of our biggest supporters and friends is Eric yeah
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: There ain't there ain't been nothing negative come out of that guy toward us.
• 1:09:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing but love.
• 1:09:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Also Jeremiah from Bigfoot Society.
• 1:09:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's another one.
• 1:09:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Solid solid dude stays in his lane grinds moves forward.
• 1:09:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's and it's awesome.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like every every step forward that dude gets he deserves because he just minds as business does this.
• 1:09:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: If he's not, if he's not putting out episodes, he's on TikTok, taking calls, like he... That's right, that dude's straight grinding.
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he's constantly throwing, like, constantly throwing us out there.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't have to, doesn't need to.
• 1:09:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: But anytime, like, I'll pop into his live, say what's up, he'll immediately be like, hey, go check out.
• 1:09:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Check out my friend's over here.
• 1:10:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's...
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's... That's how it should be, really, you know?
• 1:10:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like we're all in this together.
• 1:10:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Should be, I know it's not a mentality like that, like we should all have the same goal of like, just trying to figure out what all this weird shit is.
• 1:10:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that would be the case?
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: As opposed to the way we've talked about it before, like outside even the podcast world, the fucking paranormal communities consume each other.
• 1:10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do, they, we just, it's so weird to me.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's our own young, not so weird, the, the community.
• 1:10:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and don't, don't be wrong.
• 1:10:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: We talk shit once and a while, but some people deserve it.
• 1:10:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes, like I understand the differences between talking shit and mean it sometimes, sometimes people are just talking shit.
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: They get mad and they talk shit.
• 1:10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I get that, not forgive you.
• 1:11:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:11:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, Jeremiah was a man meter.
• 1:11:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: When we were there had a boost.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everything.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're not.
• 1:11:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was it?
• 1:11:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're squatting man squatting man.
• 1:11:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's such a fucking solid idea.
• 1:11:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's so good.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's such like that.
• 1:11:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we talk about quality, right?
• 1:11:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that that t-shirt should still be up and thumping.
• 1:11:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, shared the graphics damn near war and all that over that motherfucker all time.
• 1:11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's pretty much gone.
• 1:11:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did hear it to my, to my, and I actually, I rep a lot of the hollow shirts in my family does and they're still pumping hard like the graphics still look great on them.
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Colleen, I did hear he's Jeremiah's going back out to Oregon in in 2026.
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't go anywhere.
• 1:12:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He went out there last year.
• 1:12:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the same place.
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he's he's scheduled and some some pretty gnarly trips looking for the old squatter.
• 1:12:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Much loved everybody.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody see this is why the whole cold so dope.
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's so positive almost all the time.
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: We get our negative Nancy's once in a while, but hell, sometimes Steve and I are negative Nancy's.
• 1:12:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to be, it's hard to be chill.
• 1:12:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it really is.
• 1:12:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a big life to keep you in the nuts.
• 1:12:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: If we can get our schedules like my schedule is not great.
• 1:12:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: as far as like getting to do stuff, going to conferences and stuff, that's another thing that I'd like to get going.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I can get my weekends off, like the week, I work every other weekend, so the weekends I have off is dedicated to writing and recording.
• 1:12:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So my weekends are scheduled consistently.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like if we take that weekend off, we have to pre-plan pre-record,
• 1:12:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: to make that work.
• 1:12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if I get to a point where I got my weekends off, then we can set stuff up and we can start going to conferences and all kinds of stuff.
• 1:13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be gangster gangster gangster.
• 1:13:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, there he is.
• 1:13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: There he is.
• 1:13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we can go fishing.
• 1:13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you guys will hear me talk shit to the fish that I catch.
• 1:13:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you missed you.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, so Bryce is our squash guy that we're getting set up.
• 1:13:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You missed your introduction earlier.
• 1:13:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, he's usually here.
• 1:13:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where he's at, but there he is.
• 1:13:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have him on.
• 1:13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got some some southern Illinois squash.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going on.
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: That we're going to hit up.
• 1:13:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is good.
• 1:13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a good time.
• 1:13:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a good time.
• 1:13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be.
• 1:13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So crazy old big foot stories.
• 1:13:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and since since we're out here, if anybody has interesting encounters, I know we do or listener encounters, but if you've got one that's like real deep, you think you're making an episode, hit us up, thehaltgetterviews.com, send us a little synopsis of what you got going on.
• 1:14:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll hit you back with right to schedule it again like ours.
• 1:14:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're making it work.
• 1:14:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to roll with it and be honest with you.
• 1:14:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not, I wouldn't you bet and be mad at like the 30 or 40 minutes show.
• 1:14:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, I feel like no matter what we can make it work.
• 1:14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if it's weird and we'll talk about it.
• 1:14:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about it.
• 1:14:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you, you get Steve and I on the right track.
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get carried the fuck way.
• 1:14:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's good one doing hollow hooks at I hope you all that every time it sounds like a sick ass wrestling move yeah does Like the crippler cross face.
• 1:14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know I don't even know either be like the greatest submissionist All hooks that tapped out crippler cross face was pretty gangster Oh, go lie Oh
• 1:15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: on happening.
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know you're serious and I've already told Steve and it's not happening.
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he told me that.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, no, while the sentiment is appreciated and loved, also no, we'll get a figure, especially from the bottom of my heart.
• 1:15:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it is probably the kind of gesture anyone has ever made
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: but like Steve said, respectfully no.
• 1:15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And also, if we get, it's time, it's time for Brother John to relax and take care of Brother John.
• 1:15:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're, you're questing for your own weirdness, John.
• 1:15:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:15:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
• 1:15:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: If we get time, like I said, if we get time, we get shows banged and stuff.
• 1:15:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Me, me and Kyle also looking up like doing some investigation.
• 1:16:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got all this investigating equipment.
• 1:16:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not investigating shit.
• 1:16:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did.
• 1:16:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Peyton, I did see your email.
• 1:16:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm also gonna holler at you.
• 1:16:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: it's it's in the works.
• 1:16:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got to give Steve time because like my work schedule is jacked.
• 1:16:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: What I work like what I work on week a I have off on week b and what I have off on week a work on week b so every week have different days off.
• 1:16:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bryce, do you have a pond that I can fish?
• 1:16:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the question.
• 1:16:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I've been thinking about old x fairly.
• 1:16:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Come to my form.
• 1:16:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: The squat harm.
• 1:16:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope he's got a pond where we can watch and fish.
• 1:16:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can lose three.
• 1:16:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'm in.
• 1:16:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can lure the squat with him.
• 1:16:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's my new favorite past time is fishing.
• 1:16:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm I'm fucking obsessed.
• 1:16:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll hyper fixate.
• 1:16:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do.
• 1:16:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am fucking obsessed.
• 1:17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times.
• 1:17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: is very good because like when he hyper fixates, if hyper fixated on like show equipment and how to produce a show like there, there was a no stopping him.
• 1:17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do a lot of work at all.
• 1:17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I get frustrated like two minutes in and I'm like weird how we're like that.
• 1:17:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Duped, I'm not doing it anymore.
• 1:17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: if the what gets recorded will get released regardless where calls like no we have to make a decent sounding show and I got to figure out here because I was just be like recording in this bitch and sitting out because I cannot handle it.
• 1:17:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it sounds alright, boop it.
• 1:17:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think he's got a stockpon soup.
• 1:17:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be talking about dog.
• 1:17:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm catching so fucking fish.
• 1:17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to be getting my liver.
• 1:18:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even good at it.
• 1:18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: By sass ball of it.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Kyle's hook setten.
• 1:18:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy like, hey, I'm Steve.
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm real in a fucking bastard or a blue guill.
• 1:18:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got a blue guill.
• 1:18:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, go on dog.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got you.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to fall.
• 1:18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to fall.
• 1:18:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, uh.
• 1:18:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where?
• 1:18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody has something else.
• 1:18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't find it anyway.
• 1:18:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: right by the Tennessee River.
• 1:18:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've watched it.
• 1:18:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've watched videos of dudes fishing their Tennessee River.
• 1:18:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tennessee's got some rad ass places of the fish.
• 1:18:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Peyton, two, two, three, two, two, three.
• 1:18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I miss my weekends off.
• 1:18:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: While I do get like every other weekend, I go three day weekend, but I work the Midnight 12 hour shift.
• 1:18:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that first, the whole first day is just gone.
• 1:18:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Could you recover in?
• 1:18:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you brought that up the other day, and I guess I never really thought about it like that, like technically, you do have nights off here and there, but also technically, you kind of don't have nights off ever because you work one weekend and then the next weekend, you technically work because we get together and record.
• 1:19:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:19:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So technically, like you, like realistically, you probably have a day or two off a week that is kind of
• 1:19:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: get so overwhelming sometimes.
• 1:19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then like you said, the Wednesdays that you're off.
• 1:19:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: We do the night shift.
• 1:19:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:19:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mondays and Tuesdays.
• 1:19:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I usually don't have anything going on, but I'm usually catching up like on stuff around the house stuff like that on my Thursdays.
• 1:19:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I rarely thirst there, but I don't do much, which I'm trying to, now I'm trying to schedule interviews in those days where we don't do night shift and record and writing, so like trying to balance that out and with everybody else's schedule is kind of difficult to or make an at work.
• 1:20:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get there.
• 1:20:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna work.
• 1:20:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
• 1:20:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's we start getting some interviews banged?
• 1:20:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we can, it's gonna be fine.
• 1:20:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it'll be great.
• 1:20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I have those, yeah, we should get some, get some.
• 1:20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited for a man.
• 1:20:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be a good time.
• 1:20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to be a new twist.
• 1:20:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the ones that you have talked to, found.
• 1:20:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I don't, I like to get talking point, but I don't like to get, I don't want them to give me the whole story.
• 1:20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like the Ouija board guys, like it's too much to tell.
• 1:20:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm eventually gonna sit down and type out my story for you guys, but I'm too lazy, so I'm like, when you wanna come on, he's like, yep, I'm like, okay, just give me a synopsis.
• 1:20:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: That way, that way, me and Kyle can kinda look at it.
• 1:20:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Have a few little talking points here and there, but we wanna go in,
• 1:20:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: from the rip.
• 1:21:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of, that's kind of a Stephen nice thing.
• 1:21:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just go into it, blind.
• 1:21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Start swinging for the fence.
• 1:21:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did, I did watch the YouTube video, you sent me Bryce.
• 1:21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember the name of the channel.
• 1:21:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: What was it about?
• 1:21:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: it was it he went on to this guy's show uh... no talk about a squatting squatting counters all send it to you i did watch i started what i don't know i want it all the way through but i started watching uh... yeah i will definitely hit you up conspiracy kf record on wins days as well
• 1:21:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we could do a live ship collab or a night shift collab.
• 1:21:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll figure something out.
• 1:22:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm down to the night shift interviews, but the thing is we would have to make sure that the guest is 100% down for night shift interviews.
• 1:22:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: A little more pressure on them for a live room, you know what I mean?
• 1:22:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:22:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Other podcasts, I was should be fine.
• 1:22:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Reverend Ledges I agree it would be it would be gangster to have a live interview would be cool, but we just have to make sure that they're super comfortable with that.
• 1:22:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: What else are we going to say I can't remember.
• 1:22:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was going to tell you this.
• 1:22:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to hit on this last last little bit since almost 930, a case, back to the missing period.
• 1:22:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know a circle on the right all the way back around.
• 1:22:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:22:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get it.
• 1:22:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: But a case that we talked about on here before.
• 1:22:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And in one of our episodes, the Steven Kubaki case, the guy who walked off out into Frozen Lake, Michigan, and just disappeared, remember how it's trying.
• 1:23:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He came back.
• 1:23:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He showed up a year ago.
• 1:23:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:23:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Same clothes and shit.
• 1:23:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then where did he show up in the same place or was it a different place?
• 1:23:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Different place.
• 1:23:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: and then showed up somewhere else too.
• 1:23:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Very similar kind of thing here.
• 1:23:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
• 1:23:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, anyway, since that happened, he has been super super, super quiet about talking about anything even related to what went on.
• 1:23:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's written a book.
• 1:23:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's come out.
• 1:23:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And one of my favorite YouTube channels is Missing and Nigma.
• 1:23:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guy talks about all kinds of missing people cases.
• 1:23:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He deconstructs a lot of the missing 401 cases and stuff.
• 1:24:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He scored an interview with Steven Kobaki.
• 1:24:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nice.
• 1:24:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
• 1:24:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh, but crux of the interview was that he had basically just planned his own disappearance.
• 1:24:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: him and some really him and some of his friends he said he said one day he just had a complete like just complete and uttered like breakdown.
• 1:24:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was just over happens over his life.
• 1:24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I got with some of my friends.
• 1:24:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like told everything how he walked out, followed his steps back to make it look like he just disappeared, set his backpack and stuff down along the side of the
• 1:24:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And his friends got him out of the area.
• 1:24:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He went change his name.
• 1:24:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: All kinds of shit.
• 1:24:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like crazy shit Can he prove that shit though?
• 1:24:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: That he changes name and stuff.
• 1:24:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think so I'll link the I'll link the interview For anybody that's interested and definitely go Let me double check and make sure that's the right YouTube channel if I'm plug in the wrong one people will be like you idiot But I'll link it and you guys should go definitely check out
• 1:25:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, missing in Nigma, he just released the episode three weeks ago, the title of it's 47-year-old disappearance finally solved the story of Stephen Kubaki, and he has an interview with him, and it's interesting hearing him, like talk about it from his point of view, he is alive.
• 1:25:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
• 1:25:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got mad respect for the homies.
• 1:25:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, then when 10 toes down didn't say nothing.
• 1:25:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got mad respect for the homies on that one.
• 1:26:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: As you know, what it, it may have been fucked up.
• 1:26:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We did, I'm not going to argue that.
• 1:26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: But let's be honest, people that have those types of breakdowns.
• 1:26:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's generally their option?
• 1:26:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:26:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, this is appearing for good.
• 1:26:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:26:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So here's a little steven.
• 1:26:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can go to stevenkobaki.com and it says a stevenkobaki vanished without a trace in 1978 only to walk out of a field 15 months later claiming no recollection of anything that happened him.
• 1:26:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the decade since millions of people have speculated about what happened, but Kabaki has never spoken about that lost time until now.
• 1:26:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: The disappearance is the dramatic and never before revealed true account of how an idealistic college student went out into the ice of Lake Michigan and never really came back.
• 1:26:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's got a book out called the disappearance conspiracy revolution and revelation.
• 1:26:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: The disappearance of Stephen Kabaki after 45 years of silence.
• 1:27:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Does he elaborate at all that's the what what made him come back?
• 1:27:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember if I'm being completely honest.
• 1:27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he, I think he probably kind of just started to feel guilty.
• 1:27:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: About like walking away from his family and having everybody think that he was dead and all that.
• 1:27:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think rightfully so.
• 1:27:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I understand that.
• 1:27:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:27:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they were probably hell of relief when he came back.
• 1:27:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then he just didn't talk about it.
• 1:27:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's he is a PhD in all kinds of stuff.
• 1:27:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is a smart smart dude and he said one day he just had like a complete just ego fracture.
• 1:27:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, I just couldn't get it.
• 1:27:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Could you could you technically get in trouble for doing what he did?
• 1:27:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
• 1:27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure the statue of limitations would be pasted by now.
• 1:27:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the only thing that they may be able to get him with is if there was a lot of time and resource spent searching for him.
• 1:28:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Say, if it thought he fell into the lake, you're into Lake Michigan, and they put people in the water.
• 1:28:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some got hurt, some got died, because it like technically, in a weird way, it's in a weird way he almost faked his death, but also not.
• 1:28:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he loved a little gray area there.
• 1:28:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fake in your death is a felony.
• 1:28:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I think technically.
• 1:28:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Technically not.
• 1:28:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of loophole.
• 1:28:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he didn't technically face fake his death because there was no evidence he died.
• 1:28:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's the other good question.
• 1:28:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like if if somebody
• 1:28:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, claim anything on him, would they now be liable to pay that money back?
• 1:28:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because like, you're grown as a adult.
• 1:28:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can do whatever you want.
• 1:28:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you just want to pass up and leave, you can't, you don't have to tell anybody any fact.
• 1:28:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't, you can't get in trouble for that.
• 1:28:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then a lot of times, if I've seen cases where the police have found said individual and said individual, individual goes, I don't want to be found.
• 1:29:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they just go back and say, hey, we found them.
• 1:29:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're okay.
• 1:29:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want anything to do with you.
• 1:29:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: See you.
• 1:29:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they don't want, they don't want to be found.
• 1:29:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they have every right to disappear.
• 1:29:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:29:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, I need to get the book and read it, but the interview is good.
• 1:29:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, missing in Nigma, go check out the channel, especially if you're into like weird missing person cases.
• 1:29:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: He breaks, he breaks it down and he's very, very thorough like this dude.
• 1:29:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can't remember his name.
• 1:29:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a younger guy, but he, he does FOIA requests and he's pulling
• 1:29:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: police documents and all kind like the dude puts his time in and a lot of times if you can get there.
• 1:29:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He'll also go out to the last known locations where these people were seen and put boots on the ground kind of look around see what the landscape is excellent channel.
• 1:29:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Excellent.
• 1:29:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely go and support him.
• 1:30:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of like.
• 1:30:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what started his interest was missing for one one.
• 1:30:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then when he started deep diving, he kind of began to realize like, hey, a lot of this stuff isn't exactly what they're making it out to be.
• 1:30:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he does a much more like professional and thorough investigation of these missing people's counts.
• 1:30:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:30:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he does, he does some that have like a paranormal
• 1:30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: to them.
• 1:30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there are some cases missing for one one where they kind of hint at like possibly a Sasquatch was involved and stuff like that.
• 1:30:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He kind of goes in and, you know, doesn't necessarily debunk it, but he, you know, kind of looks at it from a different perspective and it's, it's a good channel.
• 1:30:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's kind of what you should do.
• 1:30:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:30:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good investigator.
• 1:30:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:30:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's good.
• 1:30:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching him when his channel was small and I used to used to kind of just be on the fence about it.
• 1:31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because like about his channel or about about his channel because I was like in the missing 4011 camp.
• 1:31:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:31:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got you.
• 1:31:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: This dude.
• 1:31:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
• 1:31:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're a boaster.
• 1:31:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:31:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I got the then like more more shit came out of like, all right.
• 1:31:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:31:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: but definitely worth checking out.
• 1:31:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twisted's faking your own death is not a crime in itself.
• 1:31:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it becomes a felony because it involves multiple legal activities such as insurance fraud.
• 1:31:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so.
• 1:31:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of depends on where that goes.
• 1:31:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's no, there's no law about picking up and starting somewhere else.
• 1:31:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Would it be, would it be considered fraud if you also changed your name?
• 1:31:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because he, that's, that's another thing that he did.
• 1:31:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kabaki went and completely changed his name, changed his personality.
• 1:32:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, changed everything about him for those 15 months.
• 1:32:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't think it would be, I don't see it as fraud.
• 1:32:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Especially if you did it because legally changing his name.
• 1:32:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know if you're legally changing your name.
• 1:32:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you fake it, then, or illegally did it, then.
• 1:32:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do feel like it could be kind of a gray area though when you have kids.
• 1:32:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like certain responsibilities and things.
• 1:32:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do feel like there could be a gray area there.
• 1:32:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: because they may be able to, I don't know, so much about it in 1975, but now, that's good point.
• 1:32:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now they're all tracking us all the time anyway.
• 1:33:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I thought those were some interesting updates.
• 1:33:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is, that is very unexpected.
• 1:33:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll share the link in the socials for that interview.
• 1:33:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, people have mental breakdowns all the fucking time.
• 1:33:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what he said he's like I had he said don't give me wrong.
• 1:33:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had planned To do this prior to he's like, but when I was standing out there on the ice and he's like The ice and like Michigan will form these big pillars like where the waves will hit and it'll be so cold It'll just freeze.
• 1:33:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like I just had like like a complete revelation like a complete ego fractured like this is not What I'm supposed to be doing It's crazy.
• 1:33:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Oh
• 1:33:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Damn, it's almost, almost 20 till.
• 1:33:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: All of a, so if I wrap her up right about there, I forgot to do my.
• 1:33:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, telekinesis practice.
• 1:34:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where are you back to it?
• 1:34:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
• 1:34:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
• 1:34:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:34:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Take it a mental break.
• 1:34:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:34:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fine.
• 1:34:07
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• 1:34:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And uh, thanks again for hanging out with us.
• 1:34:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to hold out a paranormalish stuff, but we were talking about some insights of the show, which is what this is for, also.
• 1:34:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: just how it is.
• 1:34:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So again, thanks for her kicking it with us on this Wednesday night.
• 1:34:35
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• 1:34:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know the girl?
• 1:34:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: To meet again, stay safe, stay weird, and I don't know if you decided to disappear and change your name.
• 1:34:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can still come back to the cult of something different.
• 1:34:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
• 1:34:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: We won't judge.
• 1:34:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're all welcome.
• 1:34:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that just means they can leave another review.