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A Very Claymation Christmas Panel · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to artists on artists on Artists on artists.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, do we have a panel for you today, Mistry's
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  Speaker 2: Screenwriting Expert panel of new voices in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: Costumes are character Buck, Mary Kill wide shot, two shot,
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  Speaker 3: close up.
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  Speaker 1: This is artist on artists on artists on artists. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know why they call it show business?
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  Speaker 3: I always wondered that.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to artists on artists on artists on Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. This week we have a very special reunion
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  Speaker 1: panel of a Christmas movie you know and love.
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  Speaker 4: Arthur Rankin Junior and Jules Bass created some of the
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  Speaker 4: most beloved Christmas films of all time, including Rudolph the
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  Speaker 4: Red Nose Reindeer, Santa Claus Is Coming to Town, and
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  Speaker 4: nineteen seventy three's The Christmas Crab.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing captures the childhood imagination quite like claymation. And we
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  Speaker 3: gathered some of the people that help bring Christmas Crab
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  Speaker 3: to life. So let's get ho ho ho, and let's go.
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  Speaker 1: My name is a Betty da Boop and I played
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  Speaker 1: Donny that Christmas Crab.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you, man, it's great to see you here, Betty.
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  Speaker 2: Great to see you're Betty great to see everyone here.
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  Speaker 2: My name is George Philbo and I was the head
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  Speaker 2: stop motion animator on the Christmas Crab, also a screenwriter,
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  Speaker 2: and I helped write the film.
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  Speaker 3: Good to talk y'all. Uh, it is I good to
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  Speaker 3: see you all the back here. It is a Heinz Klein.
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  Speaker 3: I was the lead claimation artist on Is It Christmas Crab? Hi,
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  Speaker 3: I'm Paul Tayfer I did. I was the lead audio
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  Speaker 3: engineer for Christmas Crab.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see that we all dressed up
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  Speaker 1: for Chrish. Just a bunch of Christmas heads in this house.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't see it, because I know this is
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  Speaker 2: an audio medium, which I think we're all used to that.
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  Speaker 2: It's a part from Betty. I've I've always loved Betty's laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I've always loved it. I've always We're wearing a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of outfitts to celebrate the holiday. I remember when I
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  Speaker 2: was working for Artie and Jewels ranking in Bass. I
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  Speaker 2: remember we used to always wear Christmas outfits all year round.
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  Speaker 2: It was mandatory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing I love more than Christmas.
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  Speaker 6: Paul.
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  Speaker 1: I've I've got to say, I've been holding on to
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  Speaker 1: this since nineteen seventy three. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: believe you. No, I love Christmas so much.
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  Speaker 2: Paul's smoking in here. I didn't know we could smoke
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  Speaker 2: in here.
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  Speaker 3: Let us talk about it. Is it Christmas?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I love the Christmas Crab. For me, it was one
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  Speaker 3: of my first films to head his acclamation. I was
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  Speaker 3: in charge of, you know, designing and helping move all
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  Speaker 3: the pieces back and forth and over and over again
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  Speaker 3: to develop the Christmas Crab story.
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  Speaker 2: Heines. It's so funny to see Heines again because we
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  Speaker 2: came up with this idea together. Yeah. Yeah, I wrote
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  Speaker 2: the script. I had a funny little run in with
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  Speaker 2: this nasty crab on the beach and I was there
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  Speaker 2: with my girlfriend at the time, and we had a
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  Speaker 2: whole situation. I was wearing my sweater because I was
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  Speaker 2: coming from work and the cross down.
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  Speaker 3: In Venice before Venice was Venice.
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  Speaker 2: I was down in Venice and the crab got into
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  Speaker 2: my sweatshirt. And I remember I came back from swimming
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  Speaker 2: in the ocean and I went to go put on
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  Speaker 2: the sweater and there was a crab in there. And
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  Speaker 2: I went to class and I said, hey, Klass, we
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  Speaker 2: got we got to try this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember because I was on the beach too.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lovely family holiday. We went down to
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  Speaker 3: the beach with you and your your wife at the.
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  Speaker 2: Time at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I saw it as a crab, and you'll
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  Speaker 3: freak out. You go like, oh, it's a crab inside,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So then then you go, we have to
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  Speaker 3: turn this into a movie, and.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do a little plot real quick. Maybe better you
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  Speaker 2: can tell it because we love your voice.
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  Speaker 1: What a gift that I am so glad that you
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  Speaker 1: got attacked by that little crab that faithful day because
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  Speaker 1: this was such a gift. Boop Betty doo boop, that's
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  Speaker 1: my name, dobit bear it out. And it was such
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  Speaker 1: a gift to a voiceover actor like myself because I
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  Speaker 1: had been auditioning for uh breakdowns for Sexy Lady cartoon.
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  Speaker 1: It's Sexy Dame cartoon, It's sexy broad cartoon, and I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't have the voice for it. I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: the voice for it. But and my agent sent me
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  Speaker 1: a Christmas crab. He said, Dottie, this is your last shot.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't fuck this, I'm dropping you.
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  Speaker 3: You sound like a Christmas Crab when you talk.
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  Speaker 1: And boy, oh boy, I don't think I could play
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  Speaker 1: anything else, And it turns out I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: When you came in and read for the Christmas Crab,
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  Speaker 3: I saw it like, oh, this is a crab, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like this is a crab, like we found it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad that. I'm glad that you had
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  Speaker 1: that inspiration. Well, I mean, of course, and of course
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  Speaker 1: a Christmas Crab is the story to go over the
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  Speaker 1: plot of a little crab who'll gets stuck in Santa
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  Speaker 1: Claus's little.
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  Speaker 3: Coat and he travels around the world delivering presents and.
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  Speaker 2: He's cantankeres as well.
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  Speaker 1: Oh the crab is also there, that crab, you guys.
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  Speaker 1: That's why it's called the Christmas Tres because Christmas the
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  Speaker 1: Crab was along the ride for the.
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  Speaker 2: Journey, yeahs. And he learns a little bit about the
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  Speaker 2: meaning of Christmas. And I remember, do you remember that
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  Speaker 2: line where you talked about Santa Claus and then the
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  Speaker 2: you did the clause? Can you do that line?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I remember that line.
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  Speaker 3: It was a song.
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  Speaker 2: Oh would you mind singing it?
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  Speaker 1: Of course? It was your sad and I'm the class.
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  Speaker 5: Can I say when We first had Betty come in
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  Speaker 5: theater levels when we started laying down the because.
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  Speaker 3: You have adjusted the audio engineer.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so when it's going to have you here one
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  Speaker 7: of many audio engineers because usually you don't only use
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  Speaker 7: a lot, We're great to see your fall.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're the last surviving audio in yeah this movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, when Betty came into the Uh.
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  Speaker 5: When Betty came into the studio, I looked at my
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  Speaker 5: associate at the.
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  Speaker 3: Time, Junior, and I said, buckle up, we got a
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  Speaker 3: new kid in town. I said, this is this kid seems.
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  Speaker 1: Green in my h the Christmas screen. I'll take that
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  Speaker 1: gentle razsing. I'll take that gentle razing because it was Ara.
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  Speaker 3: Where was I.
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  Speaker 1: Going with this? But I'm saying that you. Oh yes,
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  Speaker 1: in my voiceover classes, because I took some voiceover classes
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  Speaker 1: in preparation for this, they used to call me Peaky
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  Speaker 1: the boop because all my audio levels were pinking all day.
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  Speaker 1: Love God, and so I'm sure it was a nightmare
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 5: Oh but we got We worked really well together, Betty
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  Speaker 5: and Uh.
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  Speaker 3: We got in and out, which is the opposite of
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  Speaker 3: building's acclamation. You know, because the voiceover you will do
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  Speaker 3: it right at the end. You know, everything built. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of the time you do a temp one, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you do the temp audio and send Vonce's done and
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  Speaker 3: it's polished. You go back and do the polo.
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  Speaker 2: Betty, how long, just so let's compare the processes. How
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  Speaker 2: long did you do you remember recording the voiceover for
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  Speaker 2: the Christmas crap?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I think it took about two three hours, so a long, long, long,
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  Speaker 1: long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Klaus, do you remember how long it took
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  Speaker 2: to make the claimation?
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  Speaker 3: It was about fifteen years. Yes, that's correct, fifteen years.
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  Speaker 3: And what about me the audio engineer? You should answer that?
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  Speaker 3: We totally can't answer.
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  Speaker 1: Guess the question.
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  Speaker 3: I want you to do all the.
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  Speaker 1: Character for about two to three hours, so I'm guessing you,
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  Speaker 1: Oh there were multiple characters, yes, okay, and two weeks
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  Speaker 1: six hours okay, so.
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  Speaker 2: About twice the amount of time.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Just listening back to Toloper.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't really adjust anything at all, okay, but much.
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  Speaker 2: So we that that fateful picnic on the beach actually
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  Speaker 2: ended up happening in nineteen fifty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because then you went to Walls and you went
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  Speaker 3: to Korea.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Korea and I was in Korea, and
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God, the only thing keeping me alive
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  Speaker 2: was coming home to seeing the progress of Christmas Crap.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about it. I should show you my
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  Speaker 2: diaries from that time. They are so vivid. And I
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  Speaker 2: remember I was gone for three years. I went a
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  Speaker 2: wall and I went missing, and I was a pow
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  Speaker 2: and whatever. This isn't why we're here. We don't have
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  Speaker 2: to talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: But and I'd rather you didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know that you you don't believe me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to bring that up. This is good,
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  Speaker 2: it's nice seeing you for the first time in forty years.
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  Speaker 1: But and I and it would be nicer if you
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  Speaker 1: didn't bring up your bogus pow stone.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why you don't believe me about that.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't up. I've read about the Korean War and
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  Speaker 1: the facilities that they put those soldiers in, and the
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  Speaker 1: walls you're describing, they aren't the color.
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  Speaker 3: It's so hard to hear the color.
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  Speaker 2: It's so hard to hear the Christmas Crab herself be
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  Speaker 2: so mean to me about my journey.
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  Speaker 1: Really, when you are act of your work, itself sort
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  Speaker 1: of coming back to bite you a real art attacking
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  Speaker 1: the artist.
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  Speaker 3: It must be pretty much like a crab, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But I was gone for three years. I came back.
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  Speaker 2: You had the first four and a half minutes ready,
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  Speaker 2: and I remember seeing it and I remember being blown away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you are such a workhorse, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, every day for about twelve to fifteen hours. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there in my little garage and I
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  Speaker 3: am just just a little bit and just oop and
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  Speaker 3: then I take the picture and then just move a
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  Speaker 3: little bit in yards and I go, I'll pinch a crab.
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  Speaker 3: Time to pinch, and I pinch and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to build it so slowly because our script
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  Speaker 3: to was what you know, fifteen sixteen pages that each
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  Speaker 3: page takes about a year.
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  Speaker 1: And let me ask you something, hinz. Did you go insane?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? Seven speriods when I went absolutely insane. You know,
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  Speaker 3: when you when you're making a movie and not really
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  Speaker 3: getting paid for fifteen years, That don't make you go insane,
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  Speaker 3: right because you get paid on the product, paid on
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  Speaker 3: the product once it's delivered per minute, yeah, per minute.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, there was a couple of years when I
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  Speaker 3: went insane. I would say fifty five to fifty seven.
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  Speaker 3: I was insane. I was insanity. I was very happy
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  Speaker 3: that not all of you saw me, because you saw
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  Speaker 3: me when I was sane, just one time, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I saw you one time. I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 3: I have really long hair. I was screaming, screaming, screaming
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  Speaker 3: like God, go you go.
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  Speaker 2: And what's crazy is you were screaming at the figures.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going, go faster, you need to move
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  Speaker 3: faster home. That's so sad, and screaming in German. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so so yeah, very very stressful, but all in all,
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  Speaker 3: Christmas classic. So I was very happy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and ranking a bass were they jumping around to
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  Speaker 2: different projects because for me, you know, I was the
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  Speaker 2: head of Christmas Crab and so I didn't have to
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  Speaker 2: worry about that.
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  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I was working on three or four other
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  Speaker 3: projects at the same time, you know. So I would
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  Speaker 3: move the crab, take a picture, moves the goat for
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  Speaker 3: Goat revenge, take a picture, go over, you know moves.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for an hour or two, that was the whole thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you brought me in for the Goat ad R. I
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  Speaker 5: think we have a clip with that of Goat Revenge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this Goat here's calls for album and that's the
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  Speaker 3: you worked on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got in at about three pm out by five.
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  Speaker 2: Goat a d R. I wanted to ask you about that.
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  Speaker 2: So did the goat loop over itself? Don't have to
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  Speaker 2: do it? And the previously done.
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  Speaker 3: So it was early in my career.
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  Speaker 1: Got into the studio and you said do what you
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  Speaker 1: did and wasn't good at it?
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  Speaker 5: Well we did back then was we had the goat
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  Speaker 5: in studio and what we didn't realize was it was
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  Speaker 5: hard to get a goat in the studio.
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  Speaker 3: So the goat was just going rancid. It was, it
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  Speaker 3: was going off, so it was stinky, it was it
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  Speaker 3: was workable conditions. When we first brought the goat in,
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  Speaker 3: Mom but.
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  Speaker 5: Sweat, so me and Mike, I me my colleague, we
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  Speaker 5: looked at each other and we said, I said, Junior,
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  Speaker 5: let's just roll and we rolled. And then at some
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  Speaker 5: point we got too rantom to see and we had
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  Speaker 5: to get him out of there. And then a week
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  Speaker 5: later we realized we didn't get sufficient stuff. We had
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  Speaker 5: to bring him in to loop on top of what
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  Speaker 5: he missed during the rancid time brought him back.
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  Speaker 3: We brought him back.
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  Speaker 5: In and we left him in the parking lot, brought
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  Speaker 5: a mic out at the time, Mike's were this big?
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  Speaker 3: How big is that? For the audio listeners?
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  Speaker 5: For the audio listeners, I'm holding my hand like a
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  Speaker 5: like I'd say, like a snow globe, a stollen snow
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  Speaker 5: snow globe, a swollen snow book. I would say, snow
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  Speaker 5: club after my wife's lasagna. What swollen and big?
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  Speaker 2: A snow glove after the snow g eight your wife's lasagna.
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  Speaker 1: It is not helpful to the listeners. As a voice
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  Speaker 1: of the actor, I will say the most important part
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  Speaker 1: of your job is communicating something to the listener. Wow, Betty,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think you're doing that.
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  Speaker 5: You're right, And it's as an audio engineer, I'm a
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  Speaker 5: visual guy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so you visualize the levels of the audio.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta see the levels. I can't hear for
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  Speaker 5: shit sometimes because I just got older.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of the levels, I wanted to bring up our
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  Speaker 2: one of our favorite performers in that special there it
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  Speaker 2: is play Santa Claus Uh, your scene partner, the incomparable
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  Speaker 2: Burrel Eves Burrel.
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  Speaker 3: So cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he is Mister Christmas to so many people.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing to have him involved in this project.
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  Speaker 3: Really went out for Burl.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we missed Burl every day. Do you guys have
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  Speaker 2: any stories. There's a lot of burrel heads out there.
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  Speaker 2: Any stories.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot to tell a couple of staries.
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  Speaker 2: You know, remember him, keep him alive.
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  Speaker 1: Burrel was my idol as a big Christmas head. I
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  Speaker 1: of course became a big Burrel head because of the
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  Speaker 1: amount of times he played Santa Claus. It touched my
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  Speaker 1: heart and as a little girl, I would write letters
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  Speaker 1: to Burrew instead of Santa Claus because in my mind
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  Speaker 1: he was Santa and I didn't get what I wanted
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  Speaker 1: because I was sending them to a real man. So
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  Speaker 1: that broke me for a while. I was off Christmas
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  Speaker 1: for the years.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So you would write, you would write, dear Burrel, I'd
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  Speaker 2: like a Barbie doll.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And then I found his real address and I
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  Speaker 1: would send it to him. So my parents had no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Santa Claus himself sure had no idea, And so I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get what I wanted on Christmas morning, and it
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  Speaker 1: broke my heart. And so I did confront him when
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  Speaker 1: we watchess.
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  Speaker 3: Was that when you were off, when I.
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  Speaker 1: Was off, when I was off Christmas? Oh, I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid, So that's got to be a nineteen fifty
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  Speaker 1: and nineteen fifty four.
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  Speaker 3: Actually just about the time you will in his a
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  Speaker 3: pow com right.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, you mean.
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  Speaker 3: The time he was stealing.
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  Speaker 2: Valor Why did you bring that up?
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  Speaker 3: I just I just means a connection. I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 3: We just were timing.
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  Speaker 1: The architecture is inconsistent. If you know anything about the
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  Speaker 1: Korean War.
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  Speaker 5: What's weird to me is it's about the architecture, Betty,
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  Speaker 5: because I think it could be about records.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she's referring to these grainy photos that one of
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  Speaker 2: the enemies got of me. And the enemies, well she focuses,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they were my friends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were.
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  Speaker 2: I was a prisoner, and she took photos. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they took photos and they said this is is this
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  Speaker 2: your soldier and they sent it back to the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the the army, and they did come and get me eventually.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Can I say, yeah, if I was a soldier at
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  Speaker 5: war and I looked down at my fellow soldier and
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  Speaker 5: he was doodling about a Christmas crab.
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought.
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  Speaker 1: You were fucking nuts.
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  Speaker 3: And look at what you've created.
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  Speaker 2: All due respect, Paul, you wouldn't be alive long enough
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  Speaker 2: in a war to see anyone draw anything.
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  Speaker 5: I think I could. An audio engineer can survive war.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: I've survived so many rancid vibes.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen you survive missing lunch.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I this is really bringing me back because
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I forgot how much tension there was.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Come back and we're talking Christmas, and I didn't mean
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: to bring this up, but the Korean War thing was
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: brought up, Hines.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: And.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It broke no pleasure to call out the elephant in
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the room, which is you making up a fake story
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: about being a pow.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: You don't have to you don't have to be no pleasure.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: To do that, because what I want to do is
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: talk about Christmas. And what I want to do is
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: talk about Burl. We gotta keep his memory alive.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: You have any memories, But.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, working with Burrow is really fun. I remember smell.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: He always smelled like banana bread, and I remember on
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the last day we got him a big loaf of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: banana bread and he was laughing. He said, smell like this.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I was really you know, we got really close. We
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: uh we spent a lot of time at the Smokehouse
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: over on uh Barrom Boulevard in Burbank. Wow, we had
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: a couple.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: We love the Smokehouse.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is, but anybody who's worked
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: on Christmas Crab loves the Smokehouse.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We love sitting in there in that dingy old
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: little place and listening to the music and eating rolls,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: garlic rolls.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Shout out to Bethany Saunders, owner of the Smokehouse.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: She hung a Christmas Crab poster that we all signed.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah we did. I think it's still in there.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Actually, it was an honor to sign as the audio.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And went in there for a lunch alan last week
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and I saw it in there.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Bell is a great it's guy.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Me and my wife actually did some you know, sexy
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: stuff with him. Okay, wow, wow, all right, go to bed,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Go to bed.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: The bed, kids, kids, This is a naughty twenty twenty one.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: You did it this year, yeah, right before he passed,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: right before he passed. Glad he got one in before
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: he went. Yeah, Well, me and my wife you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: it's struggling. We'll go what do we do? You know
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: what am I gonna do?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: What are we gonna do?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Here?
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: We'll fighting? What are we going to do? And Jim
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Burke comes and he goes, you know how he talked
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: like who can do his talk? Who can do his talk?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: He's the guy that thinks have a holy job. That's
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: what he sounds like. He's like when we slip together.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And I was like, Burlie, are you mad too mad?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: But said my wife was like maybe, And then I thought,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's twenty twenty one.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Let's try.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I don't want to die so.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Very recent, you know, listen, I hate I hate to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: tell you Burl broke past years and years ago.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate him.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: What I think you you were, You were having relations
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: with an impostor Burrel and it's happened before.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: No, there's a fake Burl out there. I did want
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: to talk about this. I didn't want to.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Talk about impersonating Burrel. And you know what, I think
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he was the one who was ignoring by Christmas letters, so.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: He's been impersonating him since fifty fifties. I choose to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: believe that because this man looked so much like burn.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that doesn't That doesn't stop him. Yeah, that's
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: the thing that doesn't stop we.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Paul knows this. We had some security
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: questions we'd ask Burl when he got in, but only
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: he would know.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: What did you ask?
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: You couldn't grab the mic unless he passed the security tip.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can't say it because I know
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: fake Burl is listening.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: But uh, you still say the questions was out the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: answers right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Well, he's going to look for him, I'll say. Is
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: We asked them specific pet names. We asked him specific
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: uh girlfriends he had. We asked him specific sizes of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: certain measurements of things on his body like that.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: If I could speak candily thinking his body, Burrow had
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: freckles at the tip of his dick.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: And finally, I mean Christmas care.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Kids.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I don't care if the fake Burrel hears this.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: No matter what, We'll always be able to love at
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: your dick, Fake Burrel. And if you don't have any
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: freaking freckles, don't touch the mic.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: So what I'd like to talk about is how much
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: this special touched families.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love I still get to the fount man.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Every once in a while, the time.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I'm getting stopped in the.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Mallah, they never know until because I did the voice.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But sometimes if i'm if I'm ordering something at the bank,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like a check.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Some sort, what are you ordering?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Ordering a check?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I get four checks?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Please? Can I get four checks? Please? And can I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: get a deposit? And can I get a make it
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a withdrawal? And that's when they know it's me.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: You're looking at the bank menu in the back.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And it's in It's in burbank you will you've got
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: it banks. It's the bill Burr of banks, and the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: bill Burr that's what they call it because the tailers
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: are always yelling, so.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: You go to the bill Burgh banks and bank.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Rip your pots. You know when you try to withdraw,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: like I don't just have you should wow.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I can't really do the voice because I can only
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: do this one hello, one trick pony much, So I yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'll withdraw and say again, I get a withdrawal, and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: they know me there. If they're if they're a little older,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: or if they have kids, they'll be like, are you
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you betty to bope, and I'll say, oh yeah, guiltiest charge.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And it never gets old to sign one of those autographs.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: People give me their wreaths to sign all the time.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Can I say when you I couldn't imagine hearing your
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: voice when you order like a coffee or something, or
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: through a drive through you does that throw people off?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I less so than at the bank, less so
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: than at the bank. But when I'm depositing money at
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the drive through and I'm withdrawing the food, Uh, they
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: don't seem to catch on as much. I think it's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a younger crowd. You know, no good teenagers working for
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a minimum wage, so they don't really know as much.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: But does that ever happen to you?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Do you guys ever get recognized for working behind the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: scenes on a Christmas Two?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: People recognize me on the street. I'm very surprised you
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: said people recognize you for this. We've never gotten recognized.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Believe I've done the conventions I've done. I used to
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: go there's a lot of holiday conventions and then this,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah they're great. They're always usually only hired.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: San Diego.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I go to San Diego. There's one in uh
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Christmas con Saint Paul. Yeah, Christmas con, Merry con, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: do Christmas con.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: The Virgin Mary or as in marry me r r y. Okay,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: so Merry Christmas.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Christmas can, merry con, Bell Con and uh Mary con
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: St Mary. I don't go if you've gone to that one, Paul.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I went with my ex wife, Okay, yeah, I uh.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I love going to the conventions and talking. They're only
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: usually looking to get one person from every production to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: speak terry, So I usually offer.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Because I've worked on a lot of productions, I'm surprised
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: that none of them we would invite me, you know.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can let them know.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: That'd be great. Basically I'm not doing much you know work,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: and I need work too because it was paid by
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the minute of production. So you know, like right now
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: is the media is changed? The medium has changed? Yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: different way. Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: What do you guys think is the biggest change happening
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: right now in Christmas? Movie?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Or do I have to say it out loud? How
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: about the computer?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: The computer that's your enemy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I hate the computer. Everybody's just always on the computer
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: because they can do the things or animated movie on
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: a computer. How about a man sitting in his garage
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: making it. What's happened to this?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, some people would argue that it takes
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: about one fifteenth the amount of time that it takes
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you to go through the garage.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: And what would you say to those people would say?
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I would say you're wrong, and you would say round.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I would say wrong, that we are all ind okay,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: so wrong. And that's because they don't understand that the
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: passion lies not in the computer, not it's behind the
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: glass green, but in the man buildings. A crap, because
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: do you know what they do? They just draw and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: then they put it and they draw and then it's done.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: The kids are always on their phones.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: It's you know, good things cost money, and a lot
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of people don't care about things being good anymore as well.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I've noticed, and it's a heartbreak, Paul, I'm sure you've
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: experienced that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, audio engineering completely changed since the fifties, right, oh god, yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: especially with computers.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, with the fifties, I'd argue our department has changed, uh,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: compared to a lot of department Well, how it changed,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: arguing specifically, I'll argue it in court.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to know, because I don't know much
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: about the technical side of audio engineering.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I'd love for you to get really in the.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Weeds on the specifics of that.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get in the weeds with them.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I'll get in the chords with that, as we say,
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: lots of chords and wires.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I just as the podcast listeners still smoking a cigarette. Yeah, sorry, folks.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I'm a child of the seventies, and when you work
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: in this business for so long, it's like you you
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: develop habits that you can't break. I can't work on
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: a Christmas movie and not smoke a damn cigarette.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the specifics of audio engineering. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I let me get to that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Oh. I am dying to know the specifics of audio engineering.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And I think the people at O are too. They're begging.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: With a movie like.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: This Christmas Crab, you're dealing with gentle sounds, gentle images
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: that are have around physique round round, like nothing is.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Sharp, so the sound is round.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: So you're trying not to You're trying to balance that out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: You're trying to uh serve the material, not beat the material.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Oh I can specifically, how has that changed from nineteen
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: fifty two?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, so that has changed and keep in mind this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: is being recorded that has changed.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: What do you mean as in.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Choose your words carefully because many people will listen to this. Yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you with seed. I'm sorry I.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Feel I feel that sometimes people want to hear from
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: me as the audio engineer because.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I think I'll call it out right now, I'll just
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: say it. I think you guys think I don't know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: What I'm doing, and sometimes you ask me what I'm
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: doing in acquisitory manner like I don't know what I'm doing.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Fat, I'm sorry you feel that way. Yeah, I feel
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: like you know what you're doing and I'm just thanky
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: asking how the field that you know so well has changed. Now,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: thank you for that. Do you guys believe I.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Have the utmost respect for you? Paul? I think you're
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: really talented, which is why we actually ask you that
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: specific question to get your expertise in the field that
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: we know you know a lot about.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: See you said that with a weird twinkle behind your eyes.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, I just have that, and I'm just a curious
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: crab who wants to know.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I watch out for this one.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: To be honest, Yeah, I believe. I think I think Betty,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: you look for liars. That's why you love working with him?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love and I you George. You're the light
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of my life and I think only fond things of you,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: outside of, of course, the confines of US military activity.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: That is a no no subject, but our dinner table,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and I love our yearly dinners.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Don't you have a purple heart, George?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I have a purple heart. Yeah, I have a purple
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: heart for the.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Purple Hardy made of Joanne's craft.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I don't I feel like you said crabs.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Whole crab on the brain. Gosh, I've been trying to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: find a rule like this.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: For Yeah, you have not worked, right, you have worked.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: You just did that one movie Christmas Crab. And somehow
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: you have money to go to Bubank.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Well, no money to go to Burbank, Yes.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: To drive all the way out there. I let you
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: enter the bank that expensive?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: There are no tolls.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: She did that. In nineteen seventy six, you were in
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Battle of the Network Stars. Remember you did Tugger Upe
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: against mister.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: T I was, yes.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: And what's that game show where they're all upon a wall?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Oh match game? And they yeah, Hollywood, Hollywood, you did
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: do Hollywood spree.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I'm out as a series regular almost you know what I.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Am selling myself short. I was a contestant on over
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: one hundred game shows, and.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I think I keep.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Getting cast because I look like a just a jolly
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: old grandma, which I truthfully am. But I also scream
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: like a motherfucker when I win, and.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: So put bed.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: It's my turn to say, go to bed, go to bed.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Freckles on your balls, barrel, burrel, freckles on the dick burn, yes, exactly.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I not to brag, but I just shot an episode
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: of Family Game Night and I won one hundred thousand dollars.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: That is enough, Betty to get you to burn.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'm really, really, really good at game shows.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Did they bring you on as the voice of Christmas
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Crab Forgotten?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I did that. Everyone is forgotten? I did that. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: didn't start getting cast until about the eighties on all
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: these shows because the public memory sort of faded of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you know, who is this Christmas Crab? I know they
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: air it every year, but it's it's difficult. It doesn't
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: stick with the new generation, which is great for me
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: game show wise, because I'm able to put food on
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the table. As you guys know, I have sixteen kids,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and so it's tough to to to maintain that stream
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: of income. But I am working my patuity off, going
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: through the game show circuit, working on right now.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: What are you guys doing? You're looking for work. I'm
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: working on looking for work.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're working on what's that about you?
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: Is it?
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: No? I don't know what that is. I don't know
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: how to get so you've got to get on one.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: So I have to get on the computer to do that.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I hate ever since on the computer.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I wanted to not do that. I want to send
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: a letter or show up and be hello, I am
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: here to work hard for you. I'm here to work now,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and I'm there to work hard. So if you know
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: somebody that's looking for an old man who does vintage
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: style claymation.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I've been working on my final film, it is You're
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: done after this. It's autobiographical. It's a stop motion film
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: about my whole life. I've been working on.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: It for the stop motion personal that I'm doing it okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And personal ever done? Have you ever done it before?
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yes? I said in the beginning of this, I was
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: part of the lead.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Seem like Hines was really taking the reins.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: We did it together.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: He just disappeared for a while, but then he came
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: back together in the audience.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it myself on voice notes coming up, but
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: it's gonna come together.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And who's voicing the crab in your life story?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: There's no crabs? Who is a characters?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: What about Well, it's about me and it's about my extensive,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: extensive snack collection. I collect vintage snacks and I have
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: stored them.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: This Alimation movie about.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You, it's about an old man collecting snacks over his
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: whole life. And he looks at a snack and he
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: sees the memory he caught that snack. You know, I like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I like to call him catching snacks.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That's actually beautiful feature length film.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Well, we're working on it. I've been working on it
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: about forty five years and it's about fifteen minutes in
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: so hopefully, hopefully we're gonna finish it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: This sounds a lot like that movie Land of Awin.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, what is that movie?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Steve Correll movie? What what's that?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Oh? Welcome to, Welcome.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: To, Welcome to, Welcome to Marrow, Welcome to marrowin, Yes,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: welcome tomorrow.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's completely different. It's completely differ.
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  Speaker 3: Five years in and I hope it's different.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: No, it's really different forty five years. But it's good.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I can't complain. I have a good life.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: So what are you working on? And also how has
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the industry changed from.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: The go ahead and answer that question.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: You're working on something now.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Don't ask me that like you're looking for me to
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: fucking flounder.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: On the ground.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: No.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I just asked, like, do you have new apps that
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: you have to download on the complete It's different now
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: what I'm working on. I am working on.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I'm starting to do sound mixing at dinner theaters.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Live sound mixing at dinner different. So you're mixing all
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: less knobs. Fascinating.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, to be honest, I haven't adapted to the times
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: as best as I could. Hence why I am so
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: pissed and I talk like I'm pissed. I just can't
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: get with all of the files. I lose files, I
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: misplaced files.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: So live stuff's good for me because nobody wants that again.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: We do it once and we're out, then you're done.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: How do you.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Mix out the sound of the plates and the forks?
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: So we don't we're making the stage but live so
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: you I can.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Just imagine that's pretty loud to hear.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: I tell my hostesses every time, put those tables back back,
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: the tables up.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: As they say, we got to see the stage, Paul.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So you're the mixer and you are the you manage
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: the hosts.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I don't like to tell people this, but yes, the restaurant.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: My brother and I opened this dinner theater. Yes, it's
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: his project.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: What kind of shows do you put on? Because I'd
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: love to it's just Mama Mia. Oh it's only Mama.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Well that's a great show.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Especially I would say, yeah, yeah, but I keep trying
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: to push those tables back.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I shot up a question because you know, obviously
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: with Christmas Heads, our film is about Christmas. I would
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: love to know if you guys have any Christmas traditions.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the question I was going to ask.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: So funny, and I.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Would like to add to that question. Is the Christmas
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Crab part of your tradition?
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: You love to know that you still want I actually
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: have a funny tradition with the Christmas Crab. I go
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: home alone and I sent my house. I get a
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: pack of Marlboroughs and I challenged myself to smoke a
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: whole pack of cigarettes before.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: The movie ends. It's fifteen minutes and I get sick
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: as a dog. No.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a nice thing though, because you like it.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. I love watching the Christmas Crap
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: every year. Is my wife. If we watch, we have fun,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: we drink and we just celebrate what it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Was back then.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so so lovely is that's what me
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: and my wife do. You know amazing? What about you, Benny?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I well, I love the Christmas Crab and I have
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: a big family, of course, And something I think is
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: important about the Christmas Crab is your individual experience watching
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the Christmas because you don't want to be influenced by
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: others going ooh ah or laughing at different points.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I want everyone to have their own experience.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So every year, on Christmas Day, I send each of
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: my sixteen children into a room alone to watch a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: private screening of The Christmas Crab. And they do it
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: in succession, and they wear noise cancel and caadphones so
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: they can't hear anything else. And then I take them
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: out and I interview them. I say, how is it
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that time, and every year I do this, and I
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: think it's important because you learn something new every time
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you view it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what a traumatic experience for the kids.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Oh No, they love it. They do every year. All
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: sixteen of.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Them love it. Except for the one. I won't mention.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: He went off to join the military.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: So he says, George, it's more of just you don't
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: believe the military, Betty.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: It's been proven the military is a thing that happens.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: And the hoax going on that there is a vast
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: number of troops ready at arms at all times to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: defend the United States government's interest and I don't buy
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: it one bit. I think it's baloney, and I think
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: it's who ha.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Nobody has this conspiracy theory. It's just you, Betty. I
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: hate ready.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: The military is proven. It's been proven that it's real, Betty.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: What about you, George?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean and my wife we watch Christmas
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Care every year. Since my wife and I couldn't have kids.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: We like to say that it's our kid because we
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: met when I was on a Merry Con tour in Tucson.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Is she a Christmas Head?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we met about six months ago, and uh, she's
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: your wife, she's my wife.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Thank god, you still go back to it's our kid.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: When you are my age, you fall in love fast.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: There's no more games.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: The same age.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Well, and but you're married right yeah? Oh the ball
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: in is a change.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Never happened for me. I was all Clay was focusing
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: on the Clay and the ideas.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: You guys, you ever feel like there's no reward.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Every day of my life is really justying.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I'm having a wonderful live. Bye, go to the bank
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and people know who I am.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Just before you finish up, could we just play that
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: final scene in the Christmas Crab movie just to just
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: to bring it home, is it real? Christmas Crab talks
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: about stops being so crabby and start celebrating at Christmas, And.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Then there's the surprise cameos at the very end from
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: our favorite ranking and fast characters that come by.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's do it. Let's play it. Let's play it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: Let's play it at half audio because I want the
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: volume blown out.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, these young kids that blow out the ball in
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the mix will bump it up. You want me to
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: bump it down. Bump it the fuck down. These were
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: the terms we were looking for earlier. Bump it the fu.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: This is all we need earlier, just a couple of terms.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm so excited to see what this clip looks
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like this time. Oh, Santa Claus, I'm a cantanker as
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Coraby crab, and I still, even after you've taken me
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: to every house to deliver every last present, I still
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: don't think I know what Christmas is all about.
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: But don't you see little crap. Christmas isn't a out
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: work or gifts or presents. Christmas is about being with
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: the ones you love.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And do you love me, Santa Claus?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Well in the way I love my elves? I do
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: love you.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Sam. Oh, Crispy the Elf, Hey.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: Chritsp Chrispy, you need somebody also say elf?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Wow, Chunky Chunky the chunk Elf, Crispy and Chunkie.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Merry Christmas.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Did someone say snowmon?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's the snowman from before? How are you Snowman?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Cold? It got colder, so I better a recorder? Dad.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Someone call Michele Joe, oh the.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Mistletoe who talks? I remember you taught me it was
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: okay to be weird.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Well lives.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Somebody say fish Oh, fish. You are my swollen enemy
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: because I'm a crap you know, I improvised that line.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Did somebody say Rudolph the Red.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, Rudolf the Red, those reindeer? Who's foreign in this one?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Did somebody say clam chowder?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, but talking clam chowder? Who taught me how to
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: make a gingerbread house?
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Well, guys, it's time to sing the song, and we're
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: gonna sing and ready.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: This has been Artists on Artists on Artists on Christmas.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Answering the question. Now, that's why they call it Christmas.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Ho ho. Hi am Angela Jartana. I'm Jeremy Colheen, I'm
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Patrick McDonald's and.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I'm Kylie Brakman. Artists on Artists On Artists on Artists
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: is an improvised Hollywood roundtable podcast available on iTunes and Spotify.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: You can follow us at aoaoaoa pod on Twitter and Instagram.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: That's right, four a's with three o's in between. Then.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Pod music for this week's episode was provided by Gabriel
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: ponton Stars.
• 45:21
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• 45:24
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• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Night Hollywood.