Latest / The Courtroom Files / March 27 Court Hearings: Judge Boyd, Simpson, Middleton + More | TCF Podcast #259
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- 0:02Good morning everybody, happy Super Friday.
- 0:04Welcome to TCF Live. My name is Dan.
- 0:06I will be your guide on this journey through Courtlandia for
- 0:09the next 4 hours. Let's get our day started in
- 0:11Lansing, MI. This is Judge Buchanan.
- 0:16FY My honor, Natalie may come on behalf of the people.
- 0:19Good morning, Your honor. Assistant Public Defender Steven
- 0:23Feiglson on behalf of Kenneth Benn, also present by way of
- 0:26video conferencing. All right.
- 0:29And you did confirm that you are kind of been on the video, is
- 0:31that right? Thank you.
- 0:35Today's the date scheduled for probable cause conference.
- 0:38We have a preliminary exam scheduled for next week on April
- 0:422nd. Have we decided what we're
- 0:44doing? It's my understanding that we
- 0:46will be we will be proceeding to the preliminary examination next
- 0:49week. The people do have a small
- 0:51request of the court. I hope it's a small request and
- 0:54speaking with the victim in this case, he's requesting that
- 0:59either his appearance not be mandatory until 3:00 PM or may
- 1:02not begin the prelim at 3:00 PM. And his reasoning, your honor,
- 1:04is because of his work schedule. While he has a subpoena and his
- 1:08work is required to provide him the time off, he's due to other
- 1:11cases that his children are involved in, one his child being
- 1:15a victim and one his child being a defendant.
- 1:18He has taken a lot of time off of work and is afraid that there
- 1:21may be other repercussions if he has to miss work to come to this
- 1:25exam. He is willing to come to the
- 1:27exam. He has been participating in
- 1:28prosecution. He's just requesting that
- 1:30instead of starting at 1:30, we start at 3:00, or at least his
- 1:33presence can be here at 3:00. Mr. Feiglson, do you wish to be
- 1:39heard on the request? Judge, I'll leave it to the
- 1:42court. I understand Miss Macomber's
- 1:44position. We'll leave it to the court
- 1:47'cause it's possible we may even we could always start and by the
- 1:51time he gets here it'd be 3:00 anyway.
- 1:53So leave it to the court. Yeah, I'm looking at my exam
- 1:57docket for that day in the afternoon, and I have a full 10
- 2:00exams, so I'm sure we'll have plenty to work on until his
- 2:05arrival. OK.
- 2:06Thank you. OK.
- 2:11Anything else, Mr. Vigelson, for the record?
- 2:16Nothing today, Your honor, We'll just leave it on for an exam.
- 2:20OK. We'll leave this on for
- 2:22preliminary exam. Mr. Ben, you have a no contact
- 2:26order that applies whether you're in jail or out of jail.
- 2:28Remember that because if you use the jail phone to make calls,
- 2:32the prosecutor can listen to your calls.
- 2:34They can use your calls against you.
- 2:35They can use your calls to add additional criminal charges.
- 2:38You could also be in contempt of court and face up to 92 days in
- 2:42jail and or $7500 in fines consecutive to that which you
- 2:45already face. Understand.
- 2:49No. All right.
- 2:50Then we will conclude with Mr. Bun.
- 2:52Thank you. Mr. Bun, I'll be I'll talk to
- 2:54you next week, OK? I guess I'll put you in the
- 3:03visiting room because. Well, she racks up the next
- 3:07contestant. Good morning once again,
- 3:08everybody. Ashley, thank you for the $10
- 3:10super chat. Tim, thank you for gifting 5
- 3:13memberships. Appreciate that.
- 3:14So an explanation of the Super Chat goal that I set for today.
- 3:18If we hit 10 Super chats during Monday's fourth hour, I will do
- 3:23a photo show of all of the pets of TCF.
- 3:28And that's not just the ones we have here at the bunker.
- 3:31I will allow you to e-mail in pictures of your pets as well,
- 3:35and we will share them all 'cause I know we all love our
- 3:38animals here. So that that will be what will
- 3:41happen with the 4th hour on Monday if we hit our goal.
- 3:44Just so we're all clear on that, let's get back to judge.
- 3:48As the interpreter. I think he's at the facility in
- 3:52Baldwin. Miss McCray, How?
- 3:56Was that people would just respond
- 4:11to you in the chat? That would be helpful.
- 4:17Hello. I'm the interpreter.
- 4:21Yeah, and you're interrupting, caller.
- 4:23Please don't do that. On the record in State of
- 4:26Michigan versus Elmer and Dino Ramirez, 260-0606 FY Andrea
- 4:33McRae appearing on behalf of the People.
- 4:35Good morning, Your Honor. Again, Assistant Public Defender
- 4:37Steven Feiglson. On behalf of Mr. Endino Ramirez.
- 4:43Your Honor, he is not a president.
- 4:45My understanding is at the ICE facility up in Baldwin, MI, Your
- 4:50Honor. Correct.
- 4:52So we do have an interpreter here today, but I didn't ask her
- 4:56to be sworn in or anything yet because we don't have the
- 4:59defendant for the interpretation, I guess.
- 5:04What information do we have to confirm that he's detained?
- 5:10He appears to be logging into Zoom right now.
- 5:12So do we really think he's detained?
- 5:13No way. Oh, I, I think he's detained.
- 5:16Well, are they logging in from the detention center?
- 5:19That's awesome if they are. Oh, this is it.
- 5:21Might be it might be the family. I don't.
- 5:24Know. If you are Elmer and Dino
- 5:27Ramirez, you need to unmute and identify yourself.
- 5:33Oh, all right. Well, Miss Nickel, you may have
- 5:36someone to interpret for. Is that your client, Mr.
- 5:38Feiglson? I believe so, Your Honor, but
- 5:41can you? Got to unmute there, Miss
- 5:47Nickel. Sandra, please unmute.
- 6:17The name that I have is Elmer. Is this the same person?
- 6:21Elmer Regalado. We have Elmer and Dino Ramirez.
- 6:30The name I'm here for is Elmer Salvador Regalado.
- 6:34I may have the last client. Salvador Regalado was a
- 6:39gentleman we saw yesterday with a different last name.
- 6:42The person we need you for today is Elmer.
- 6:45I see they typed it wrong. I see it right here on the
- 6:47document. It's supposed to be Elmer and
- 6:49Dino Ramirez. OK.
- 6:52OK, Mr. Fagos, and I'm assuming you have not spoken to your
- 6:54client since you believed he was unavailable to you?
- 6:57That's correct, Your Honor, I have not.
- 6:59Would you like a breakout? Room with your client and the
- 7:01interpreter. Yes, please, Your Honor.
- 7:03Thank you. OK, I'm going to try and put you
- 7:06all together. Sandra, if you can tell Elmer,
- 7:09he's going to have to click join.
- 7:12When the prompt appears on his screen, I already see it.
- 7:34May I press C correcto? Sandra, please join as well.
- 7:47OK, Well, that was a weird turn of
- 8:00events. We didn't know they were going
- 8:03to be available. Now we're going to get it all
- 8:08set for next week for all the interpreters and they won't
- 8:10break him. Well, I don't know where he is.
- 8:13So that's going to be the first question is where are you not
- 8:16sure if he'll be there even after Monday.
- 8:18I don't know. I.
- 8:23Don't know. I don't see anyone in that
- 8:37visit. Room Okie dokie friends.
- 8:49The courts are off to a little bit of a slow start this
- 8:51morning, as is Judge Buchanan's court in and of itself from the
- 8:54looks of things. However, we do have Judge
- 8:57Elmore. Looks like he's about to do
- 8:59something, so let's go up there and say good morning to him.
- 9:26You have the old PSI for this file?
- 9:31Yes, Sir. Mr. Burke, if you can hear us.
- 9:39There he is, everybody. Good morning, Your Honor.
- 9:41I'm sorry about that. It's OK.
- 9:44All right. We are now on the record today
- 9:46on this Friday, March 27th, going on here now for the 28th
- 9:52Circuit Court here in Westford County.
- 9:55Our first file this morning is people to say to Michigan versus
- 9:58Henry Collins. The file number in this case
- 10:01IS19-12592-FH Appearances, please.
- 10:11Good morning. For the record, my name is Mark
- 10:12Burke, My P verse 54935. I'm with the attorney.
- 10:15John is also paying for the people.
- 10:18Thank you Honour Taylor and Anna Travanto on behalf of Mr.
- 10:21Collins, who's the president of. The corporate, thank you.
- 10:23All right. Also this morning is Mr. Kevin
- 10:25Stumpleman. He is the agent today.
- 10:29Who has been the? Probation agent on this case
- 10:31since he began back in 2019. He is here before the court and
- 10:37we're here today for a probation violation hearing.
- 10:43Let me take a quick look here at the history of the file.
- 10:47Like we were last here on the record last week on March 20th.
- 10:55That's Friday. Then it requested a hearing
- 11:04conducted within 14 days. 9 is remanded into custody like that
- 11:12was actually the informal hearing, the second hearing
- 11:16after we conducted an arraignment on March 17th.
- 11:23So we're here today for a formal hearing.
- 11:27All right, Mr. Burke, have you had the opportunity to speak
- 11:32with, you know what? I don't like it when I say have
- 11:34you had the opportunity? Everybody has had the
- 11:37opportunity. Have you actually spoken with
- 11:39the prosecutor? I'm joined the defense attorney
- 11:41on the final, the honor counsel. I spoke last week in a breakout
- 11:46room and we talked about a couple different options.
- 11:49I'm not quite sure exactly what the defendant's position is
- 11:52today, but I, I did speak with counsel last week about like I,
- 11:58like I said, a few, few different possible options to
- 12:00resolve this. All right, So what are the
- 12:03answers, Mr. Rovetto? Thank your honor today my point
- 12:08would be prepared to move forward.
- 12:10On. A.
- 12:11Plea. To the offer extended last week
- 12:15by the prosecutor and I have met with my client in this since our
- 12:18last hearing. We met at the jail.
- 12:19We met again this morning. Sorry, the radiator was quite
- 12:22loud. That's all right.
- 12:24Keep going. So what's he going to do?
- 12:26What's he pleading to? Well, your Honor, we would like
- 12:28to plead guilty to Count 1 and Count 4, which was the
- 12:33allegation of my client was. Convicted.
- 12:35Of. New offenses in the state of
- 12:37Oklahoma. We ran into an issue this
- 12:39morning though talking. To Mr. Stibbleton.
- 12:42Is we are not sure if the records Mr. Stibbleton has would
- 12:45be sufficient. For purposes of that.
- 12:48Or with the court and I. Would.
- 12:51Like to be able to. Talk to the prosecutor.
- 12:53About that or I support how they'd like to proceed on that
- 12:55issue. So.
- 12:58One moment. Well, there were for a total of
- 13:034 counts. The original alleged violation
- 13:07was filed in this file on January 13th of 2001, alleging
- 13:13that on November 6th, 2020, the defendant had violated a
- 13:18criminal law of a government, specifically the government in
- 13:22Oklahoma for a case of child neglect.
- 13:25That's one of them to which he would please count 2 and three
- 13:30are that he failed in effect to report from January and February
- 13:38of 2021 for a period of more than 60 days.
- 13:42Therefore there would be an absconder status and then count
- 13:464 is the violation for count one.
- 13:50I'm sorry, Rule 1 again for violating another law that one
- 13:54was possession of methamphetamine in the state of
- 13:57Oklahoma back on October 21st of 2020.
- 14:04I don't understand here if let's I'm going to boil it down this
- 14:08way. He's willing to plead guilty to
- 14:10two out of four. All. 4.
- 14:18Are non-technical, which means whether he pleads to 1 and 4,
- 14:25two and three or any combination thereof, it's the same result.
- 14:36Vento, what does your client wish to do?
- 14:38To which ones are he going to plead?
- 14:40And he he's going to make the statement that he knows whether
- 14:43or not he was convicted or not convicted.
- 14:46He also knows whether or not he has or hasn't had any contact in
- 14:49five years. If the court will allow.
- 14:52Him to just testify. That he was convicted in
- 14:54Oklahoma and testimony is enough.
- 14:56Then we would want to proceed forward being guilty to count
- 14:59one account. For all right, got it.
- 15:00Thank you. Mr. Burke, are you OK with that?
- 15:03Yeah. The people would be satisfied
- 15:04with the defendant offering, you know, an acknowledgement.
- 15:08As far as like the factual basis for the plea, That's that's
- 15:10fine. You're on your guess.
- 15:12Thank you. Mr. Collins.
- 15:13Is that what you want to do today?
- 15:14Yes, Sir. All right.
- 15:15The best you can. Please raise your right hand for
- 15:17me. Sir.
- 15:18Do you swear or affirm that the information and testimony you
- 15:21were about to provide, Shall we? The truth.
- 15:22The whole truth? Not the.
- 15:23But the truth. Yes, Sir.
- 15:24You may lower your hand. All right, Mr. Collins, I
- 15:27covered a little bit just briefly there a moment ago what
- 15:30the four counts are, and I covered them last week.
- 15:33Do you need me to repeat them to you now by pleading guilty to
- 15:38count 1 and 4, which again are the allegations that you were
- 15:42convicted of a child neglect in Oklahoma and convicted of
- 15:48possession of methamphetamine in Oklahoma, You're not going to
- 15:53have a contested hearing. You'll be waiving the right to
- 15:56question or cross examine any witnesses against you.
- 16:00You'll be giving up the right to be presumed innocence until the
- 16:04prosecutor proved beyond the air by a preponderance of the
- 16:07evidence that you were guilty of those.
- 16:09You'll also be given up the right to confront those
- 16:11witnesses, present witnesses, evidence for testimony yourself.
- 16:15Plus you'll be given up the right to remain silent and the
- 16:18right to not have that silence used against you.
- 16:20Do you understand? Yes, Sir.
- 16:21And once again, because in this original case you were convicted
- 16:25of failing to pay child support you if you are found guilty or I
- 16:29accept those please you'll be facing a resentencing on the
- 16:36original offense, which is a felony possible by up to four
- 16:40years. Do you understand?
- 16:41Yes, Sir. And has anyone made any other
- 16:43promises direct reduces that we haven't talked about this
- 16:46morning on the record to get you to enter this plea?
- 16:48No, Sir. Are you making the plea of your
- 16:50own free choice? Yes, Sir.
- 16:52All right, now there is one more thing I can realize I I failed
- 16:57to mention to you. I know there was an extradition
- 17:00to help move you from Oklahoma out here to the great state of
- 17:04Michigan and probably what is the best time of year to be here
- 17:08and to probably be inside. But anyways, you could also be
- 17:12reassessed that cost for that extradition fee.
- 17:15Do you understand, Sir? All right, knowing all that, you
- 17:18still wish to enter the plea of guilty as we discussed, as to
- 17:22count one of the requested warrant for probation violation,
- 17:26which again asserts that you violate to condition one, not to
- 17:29violate any criminal law of any unit of government.
- 17:31And that specifically it's based upon a finding of guilt for a
- 17:35case of child neglect out in Oklahoma.
- 17:38How do you plead? And as to the count 4, again,
- 17:43violating the same rule or condition #1 not to violate any
- 17:46criminal law of any unit of government that one applies to,
- 17:51that you plead guilty for the possession of methamphetamine in
- 17:54Oklahoma. How do you plead guilty, Mr.
- 17:59Collins? First, the Court takes
- 18:01traditional notice of the terms and conditions of probation that
- 18:04are contained in this file and they were issued by my
- 18:09predecessor to the animal, Judge Glenn Baggerman, and was then
- 18:13subsequently signed and acknowledged by the defendant.
- 18:18Mr. Judge Baggerman signed it on October 29th of 2019.
- 18:22Mr. Collins signed, it looks like on exactly the same day,
- 18:28Sir. Is it true that back in hold on,
- 18:39I gotta find the right date and say back in Oklahoma on or about
- 18:44November 6th of 2020, you were convicted of a charge of child
- 18:49neglect the criminal statute. All right.
- 18:53And did you enter a plea to that or was it OK?
- 18:56Did it, how did you plea? All right, Sir, is it also true
- 19:00that subsequently on or about October 21st of 2020, you pled
- 19:07guilty to a charge of possession of methamphetamine a criminal, a
- 19:11criminal statute in Oklahoma and again you pled guilty in the mid
- 19:17to that. All right, Thank you.
- 19:19Mr. Burke. You believe he's provided on a
- 19:21factual basis? The people are satisfied, Judge.
- 19:24Yes. Thank you.
- 19:26Are you aware of any other promises throughout your
- 19:28inducements? None for the people, Your Honor.
- 19:30Thank you. So far, do you believe that I've
- 19:32complied with Court Rule 6.445 and the people are satisfied,
- 19:37Your Honor? Yes.
- 19:37Thank you. Thank you.
- 19:38Miss Vera Vento, do you agree with all three?
- 19:40Yes. Your Honor, the Court agrees as
- 19:42well. I find that the plea today has
- 19:44been made freely, duly and voluntarily.
- 19:47I further find that the testimony provided by the
- 19:49defendant Underoath on the record, in addition to the
- 19:53judicial notice of the terms and conditions of probation, that
- 19:56the defendant is guilty of Counts one and Count 2 on the
- 20:00two requests of warrant violations, Counts 2 and three
- 20:04are therefore dismissed. Mr. Stapleton, can we proceed
- 20:08with the sentencing? OK.
- 20:10Mr. Burke, any objection to that?
- 20:12No objection to your Honor. Thank you.
- 20:14This is Spirivental. Any objection?
- 20:29Keep in mind that if we did sentencing today, that means I'm
- 20:32not ordering an update, which means prison isn't going to
- 20:36happen. We would like to proceed forward
- 20:46with sentencing today, Your Honor.
- 20:47Great. Thank you.
- 20:48All right, Mr. Stapleton, let's go over your recommendation.
- 20:51Thank you, Your Honor. The defendant was originally
- 20:53sentenced October 28th, 2019 to a two year probation term.
- 21:00He had 150 days jail with 110 days credit.
- 21:05He was immediately transferred to Oklahoma, which is where the
- 21:08state was extradited from for this case of child support.
- 21:14He was supervised in Oklahoma. He was obviously violated
- 21:19probation on a couple different occasions, then absconded from
- 21:23probation supervision for a number of years.
- 21:28And here he is here. Before the court today.
- 21:32What are you my calculations? He has 127 days credit.
- 21:36That's the time that he was actually not good.
- 21:40Not good time, But no, not including good time.
- 21:43No. I'm sorry.
- 21:45That would be without. Yeah, sorry.
- 21:48Keep going. Let's stop talking to you and I
- 21:50You just keep going yourself. You're doing a better job than I
- 21:53anyway. If you want my recommendation
- 21:56that probation be revoked, the defendant be sentenced to a
- 22:00lengthy term of jail. All fines and costs.
- 22:03Preserved and as well as child support.
- 22:08There's also a restitution request from the state of
- 22:10Michigan for this recent extradition which is $4108.00
- 22:18even. That's it.
- 22:24That's it. Yes, Sir.
- 22:26Mr. Burke, on behalf of the People, Sir, allocution.
- 22:32So your Honor, the couple couple things I want to point out.
- 22:36The defendant's current arrearage as of as of this month
- 22:40is 64,000 32843. The good news is the defendant
- 22:47does not, does not have an ongoing support evaluation.
- 22:49So it's not growing, but it's still, it's still north of
- 22:5164,000. The as as the as Agents
- 22:57Doubleton indicated sentencing was on October 28th of 2019.
- 23:01Since that date, there's been one reported payment towards
- 23:06child support, which was $70 on February 6th of 2020.
- 23:12And that's it, no other payments.
- 23:14So before that the, the, the only the, the reported, the
- 23:18latest reported payment before that February of 2020 payment
- 23:20was in June of 2019 before the defendant even took a plea.
- 23:24So, so I mean, it's, it's, you know, naturally the, the idea of
- 23:29these cases is to have the defendant support his or her
- 23:35child or children. And the defendant took a plea
- 23:41back in September 2019, sentenced in October 2019.
- 23:45And he's made one payment since then, the amount of $70.
- 23:47And he's picked up two criminal convictions.
- 23:51The arrears is north of $64,000. As far as a sentence is
- 23:55concerned, Your Honor, I'll leave it to the court's
- 23:57discretion, but I wanted to make sure the court was aware of
- 23:59those, those figures and that and those that information.
- 24:06Thank you, Your Honor. My client would respect the
- 24:08request to be allowed the opportunity to try again or and
- 24:14he understands that some period of June might be necessary.
- 24:17But he has. Been working to improve things,
- 24:19he's reported to me, he's communicated with his wife.
- 24:22They have figured out a monthly. Budget and to.
- 24:24Begin making regular payments on these.
- 24:26Arrears. He reports that he had some job
- 24:30prospects and he was starting to kind of get things more stable
- 24:34and get back on his feet. Reports that while he didn't
- 24:37report formally, sometime in 2025 he started trying to make
- 24:40phone calls to find the right person in Michigan who he could
- 24:44then start making payments to, but he wasn't really sure.
- 24:47Where to go with who to talk to? He is remorseful.
- 24:52The court has sent a very clear message, being picked up and
- 24:55extradited, that this is not something that can be ran from,
- 24:59this is not something that can be avoided.
- 25:01This is something that needs to be tended to until all of this
- 25:05is taken care of. And if he was to run again, it
- 25:07would lead to more arrearage, it would lead to more extradition,
- 25:10it would simply make the situation worse.
- 25:14That. Raising your honor, we do
- 25:15respectfully request that he be allowed another opportunity of
- 25:18probation or that any additional time be kept as minimal as
- 25:22possible kept in county and that he be able to somehow get back
- 25:28to working as soon as. Possible.
- 25:29Thank. You all right, Mr. Collins?
- 25:32You have the right to make a statement.
- 25:33If you choose to do so, then you wish to say, and you may remain
- 25:37seated, that whatever is most comfortable.
- 25:39Corey. Yes.
- 25:39Ron I. Know I screwed.
- 25:41Up. I'm 60 years old.
- 25:44I don't. Want to live like this?
- 25:46What do you mean by that? Living like what?
- 25:49Running, hiding on your last PSI.
- 25:54You had a job and that's why you moved to Oklahoma.
- 25:57You had met your wife in Texas. I got I got a new life, a new
- 26:00wife. Yes, the wife I had before is
- 26:02the reason I got the meth charge.
- 26:03So I got. A new wife.
- 26:04There. OK, I've been divorced, married
- 26:06since then. All right.
- 26:08So what have you been doing? Yeah, what have you been doing?
- 26:11You you also had a child. Out.
- 26:13Let's do it this way. You also had a child out.
- 26:16All right, now you have a new grandchild.
- 26:18OK. All right.
- 26:23So what else you been doing? Are you working?
- 26:25Tell me about your work. Last time you were working as a
- 26:28fry club someplace. Sonic Yes, OK.
- 26:32All right. And.
- 26:34After that I went to. I started.
- 26:36Working as a. Maintenance guy in a mobile home
- 26:39place, RV place all right and I was basically working for my
- 26:42rent then OK and that's why I got that's when I got.
- 26:47Picked up at. How long you been married?
- 26:50This next time we got married in the 21st.
- 26:54On 2021. August 16th, 2021.
- 27:05Anything else, Sir? I'm sorry.
- 27:14You don't even say sorry to me. This is.
- 27:16I understand. Yeah.
- 27:17I'm just the judge. I just sit here.
- 27:18It's. Doing your.
- 27:20Job 5. Days a week.
- 27:21And I wasn't even the judge when the case began.
- 27:29All right, Well, this is certainly.
- 27:33Let's be quite here. I don't know what the defendants
- 27:38criminal history has been since other than the two charges we've
- 27:43talked about. So it's criminal history was
- 27:45actually relatively low, at least back in 2019.
- 27:51There was only a string of some misdemeanors.
- 28:07See, in 2000, nine, there was a meth conviction.
- 28:17Looks like that may have been in.
- 28:18I don't know which county that was in.
- 28:24That was in Cook County, Texas. You're on.
- 28:26Yeah, there we go. That's here.
- 28:28We also had another case out in Cook County, Texas at 95.
- 28:36Under. The influence of 95 and clearly
- 28:39all those with if he were being sentenced today, it was well
- 28:44actually no, there would not be a 10 year gap, but still.
- 28:48All right. Well, the big problem here is,
- 28:51Mr. Collins, you haven't made any real effort to make these
- 28:54payments. And it's really easy.
- 28:57And I'm not trying to pick on the attorney, but it's very easy
- 29:00for me to pick up, pick on some of the things she said, why
- 29:07we've had no progress and not knowing how to change and find
- 29:11phone numbers and what to do. Mr. Stapleton was the probation
- 29:16officer when this case was sentenced.
- 29:19Mr. Stapleton, you've worked at that in the same office, the
- 29:23same physical spot in this building.
- 29:25For how long? Nine years you.
- 29:28Are consistently You didn't disappear for a year and go
- 29:30someplace. No, you are.
- 29:32No, you have the same phone numbers.
- 29:34You have the same office space. Yeah, you didn't try hard
- 29:39enough. Plus, this courthouse has been
- 29:42here for 111 years. And while I'm sure it didn't
- 29:46have the same phone number 111 years ago, we still have the
- 29:50same courtroom, the same phone numbers, my predecessor and sat
- 29:56in the same office. Phone numbers for the courthouse
- 30:00haven't changed in decades. So.
- 30:04Yeah, you didn't make any effort to make these payments and you
- 30:08don't need to apologize to me. I'm not the child who didn't get
- 30:12the $64,000 or the spouse who did not get the $64,000.
- 30:19So plus, there was a word that you stated that completely
- 30:23contradicted your attorney. I don't want to live like this
- 30:28because I no longer want to be on the run, contradicts Miss
- 30:34your eventual statement that you were trying to find the right
- 30:38phone number. Of course, on the Internet I.
- 30:42Was trying to find the. Attorney General, I found it.
- 30:46I was waiting on a case number. Well, all you need to do is call
- 30:50this court and call your probation officer.
- 30:54Yeah, that's the person you should have been talking to.
- 30:56Why? Because my predecessor told you
- 30:58to keep talking to that guy, but you stopped communicating with
- 31:02that guy 5-6 years ago, so no. So now we're at a point the
- 31:08child is well over the age of 18.
- 31:11You haven't made any payments. 60 years of age.
- 31:15Yeah. Yeah, I see.
- 31:16You haven't made any. Yep.
- 31:17I know. There was, like, one payment
- 31:19made and it cost the government $4100 to bring you from the
- 31:24great state of Oklahoma. Haven't been stationed at Fort
- 31:28Sill, I can tell you that. The word rages in parentheses.
- 31:32Especially in June and July. But anyways, August, June.
- 31:36Yeah, August. So anyways, the sentence of the
- 31:41court is as follows. The court terminates the
- 31:46probation without improvement. The court preserves all fines
- 31:51and costs, plus the court needs to add to that Samantha $4108.00
- 31:58for extradition fees. That's payable to the State of
- 32:02Michigan. And then As for a period of
- 32:06sentence, well, the court looks here at the previous guideline
- 32:10range, which was zero to 9 months, which we know is an
- 32:13intermediate sanction cell. And the court to be able to give
- 32:17any period of confinement, even though a confinement was given
- 32:20by Judge Staggerman back before there were the changes in the
- 32:23law defining what can be done for intermediate sanctions.
- 32:27The Court also finds that there are reasonable grounds based
- 32:30upon the continued failure to pay.
- 32:34They want to comply with probation committing new
- 32:38criminal activity. Therefore, the Court finds
- 32:41reasonable grounds and that the reasonable proportion of
- 32:44sentence will be that the defendant is sentenced to a
- 32:49period of jail in the Westwood County Jail for 365 days with
- 32:55127 days of credit. The Court considers that while I
- 33:02do recognize that this is about a dependent who may or may not
- 33:05have been able to pay, but it sounds like he's had jobs and so
- 33:10he's been had some ability to make some payments.
- 33:13But even more importantly, the court considers occurrence.
- 33:17We get a lot of child support cases here, and the Attorney
- 33:20General's office and the Public Defender's office do pretty good
- 33:23jobs making opportunities available for people to get
- 33:27reduced charges. And so the deterrence has to be
- 33:32here. And that greatly hope outweighs
- 33:36allowing time for pain. The message needs to be sent by
- 33:40this court. If you are unable to engage in
- 33:44sexual penetration and produce a child, you need to be able to
- 33:50pay care of that child. That's a sentence of the court.
- 33:53Any questions? Mr. Burke here.
- 33:57Are you indicating that all costs and fines or fees are are
- 34:00preserved? Does that include restitution?
- 34:02I did. Including restitution for us.
- 34:05OK, Samantha, I need 2 appellate forms, please.
- 34:11And then Rihanna, do you need that number again?
- 34:13The, the, the, the balance 64? Yeah.
- 34:17Hold on, Samantha. Write this down.
- 34:19The arrears are $64,328.43. Did I get that correct, Mr.
- 34:28Burke? That's correct.
- 34:29And that's, that's in addition to the extradition cost of the
- 34:3341 O 8. Thank you, your Honor.
- 34:35All right, Samantha, once you grab those two forms, you can
- 34:40take a moment while you're doing that, Mister Steffleton, here is
- 34:43the old PSI. I'm returning it back to you.
- 35:14You have it over there. Yeah, in the dark wheel, so.
- 35:18OK, Mr. Burke, Samantha's computer
- 35:35spinning around. Therefore, I'm going to direct
- 35:38you if you could please pick your favorite song from Sesame
- 35:42Street and sing it for us. Ready.
- 35:46You want me to do that, Your Honor?
- 35:48No, not really. I don't want to.
- 35:49I don't want to offend anybody. I know.
- 35:51I appreciate that one moment. All right.
- 35:56Mr. Collins, Miss Samantha is going to bring to you and
- 35:59provide to you through your attorney 2 copies of 1 document.
- 36:03You are to place your initials on the first copy.
- 36:06Doing so neither elects nor waives in your rights.
- 36:08It merely acknowledges your receipt of the other copy of the
- 36:11same document, which we'll take with you.
- 36:14Now, this document tells you that you have the right to
- 36:16appeal the condition and sentence in your case, and then
- 36:19it's typically done by filing a claim of right to appeal.
- 36:22However, based upon the pleas in this case, any appeal is done by
- 36:26filing an application for leave to appeal.
- 36:29If you choose to file an application for leave to appeal
- 36:32and you want support to appoint an attorney to assist you, you
- 36:35may complete the bottom half of the copy that you're going to
- 36:37take with you and return it to the court within 42 days.
- 36:43Thank you very much. We are adjourned.
- 36:47Thank you very much, and Mr. Stubbleman, thank you.
- 36:49And Mr. Parrett, Michael, thank you.
- 36:51Have a good weekend. So I am totally in agreement
- 36:54that if you have child support, you should pay it.
- 36:57But I've said it before and I'll say it again, I also think it
- 37:00should be 100% incumbent and required honestly on the part of
- 37:07the custodial parent to account for how that money is spent.
- 37:10And there is no jurisdiction that I am aware of where the
- 37:13custodial parent is held accountable.
- 37:15And I think that is a travesty of justice.
- 37:19I don't know if that applies in this case or not, but I think it
- 37:21should happen anyways. Good morning once again,
- 37:23everybody. TCF live on a Super Friday.
- 37:26Speaking of Super Friday, our super chat goal today, if we hit
- 37:2910 Super chats on Monday during the 4th hour, we will do a photo
- 37:32show with the pets of TCF. That includes yours as well if
- 37:36you send me photos. So let's try to hit that goal
- 37:39today because I'd love to do that.
- 37:41Speaking of which, Tim, thank you for your gifted membership.
- 37:44Lindsay, thank you for gifting 10.
- 37:46Ashley, thank you for gifting 5 and Grandma TCF, thank you for
- 37:50your $10 super chat. I appreciate all of you.
- 37:52Thank you so much. Let's go to Huron County,
- 37:56Michigan, Judge Prill. So this is the case of Brittany
- 38:01versus Carrie. So we've got 2 ladies going at
- 38:05each other about something. Let's see what this is all
- 38:08about. Bazan, file number 26208178, pH.
- 38:16This is the petitioner, Miss Woodright's motion to seek a
- 38:20personal protection order. She's in the courtroom.
- 38:22She's in pro SE Miss Bazan also appears in the courtroom.
- 38:26She's also in pro SE. Would you both please raise your
- 38:29right hands? Do you solemnly swear or affirm
- 38:32that the testimony you're about to give in this case is the
- 38:34truth, the whole truth, Nothing but the truth.
- 38:35So help again, yes. Thank you.
- 38:39For purposes of history in this matter, Miss Woodright filed an
- 38:43ex parte motion seeking a personal protection order
- 38:47against the respondent. That was on March 16, 2026.
- 38:53The court reviewed that petition the very same day and issued an
- 39:00order the very same day. Denied the petition for personal
- 39:04protection order, stating that the petition is not clear
- 39:07relative to two alleged unconsent contacts when it
- 39:11appears some of the allegations involved petitioners minor
- 39:13children. Petitioner may request a hearing
- 39:16if she wishes to, with notice to the respondent.
- 39:19It is the petitioner's burden to seek a personal protection order
- 39:23by preponderance of the evidence and so the burden rests with
- 39:27you. Miss, what is the reason you're
- 39:29requesting a personal protection order?
- 39:31Your Honor, it has been an ongoing situation that the
- 39:37respondent has been using spurs against my disability.
- 39:44She has been screaming and cursing for children playing in
- 39:48a Commons area upstairs in our own level apartment.
- 39:52She has come out and produced a cell phone and recorded myself
- 39:57and my children while she has blocked off the entrance.
- 40:02I am the stairwell that is the only entrance and exit in the
- 40:05building. While she proceeded to insult me
- 40:09and use discriminating comments and then she then proceeded to
- 40:14return to her home. When I made a police report that
- 40:18same day, it is in the massive stack of evidence.
- 40:25She continues to post on her social media in regards to
- 40:29myself, my mental health, my disability, my whereabouts, my
- 40:33insurance, my outs when I'm doing something, even carrying
- 40:37my child up the stairs saying I'm not disabled enough to be
- 40:40doing that. It is insulting to myself, It is
- 40:45insulting to my children to be mentioned on her personal public
- 40:48Facebook page. And she has even gone as far as
- 40:54unfortunately going to the Police Department and telling
- 40:58them words that did not get said and using an image that she had
- 41:03requested over a year ago or six months ago in lieu of it being
- 41:11where I was at, at the bus stop waiting for my children.
- 41:14And I had seen this evening chief's wife.
- 41:18She had then made derogatory remarks against me, of course
- 41:23the chief's wife, which then caused a stir with me and the
- 41:27chief of police. It caused an emotional distress
- 41:30causing. So she allegedly made statements
- 41:33about the chief's wife that made a problem with you.
- 41:36She said it was me. She said I said something in the
- 41:42matters of his wife reporting for booty duty at somebody's
- 41:46house and that was not said. And it was a vague picture to
- 41:51show where where the house was because I said she said which
- 41:55house is it? And I sent a big picture.
- 41:59And this was over six months ago.
- 42:01And the chief then responded in upset.
- 42:04And that is understandable. But it caused me grave emotional
- 42:08distress, which caused anxiety, hyperventilation to the point of
- 42:13being extremely ill, to the point of almost blacking out and
- 42:17needing emergency service from my caretaker.
- 42:20And I was on bed rest for the rest of the day.
- 42:23So, I mean, I, I, I reviewed the initial items you had submitted
- 42:32to the court for the determination whether to issue
- 42:35an ex parte personal protection order.
- 42:38And and then in this motion, I mean they're just pages, pages
- 42:52and then comments. I mean that that.
- 42:55I apologize for the comments. Well, it it, it's it's it.
- 42:58It's impossible for the court to understand what this is about.
- 43:03Now mind you, I don't know if this is hearsay or I have no
- 43:06idea, but I need to have first hand observations by you to
- 43:10indicate 2 or more unconsented alleged stalking type of
- 43:17situations which would warrant a personal protection order.
- 43:21But your personal your, your original request was from you
- 43:26even mentioned over six months ago, correct?
- 43:29No, your honor, this is really confusing.
- 43:33And I, I had hoped that we had gone last because it's, it's a
- 43:36lot. And I I know you like short and
- 43:38sweet, but. There's no.
- 43:40There's no short excuse me this. This short and sweet?
- 43:44Oh no. If you wanted to see short and
- 43:47sweet, you should have seen my predecessor, whom I highly
- 43:50respect, my predecessor, the Honorable M Richard Knoblock.
- 43:56It, it would be more than quick. I allow, and I'm not saying he
- 43:59never did, but I allow the parties the opportunity to speak
- 44:03and I even asked them again, is there anything else?
- 44:06I do that for a reason, because you are entitled to have a
- 44:08hearing and to bring all this information out.
- 44:12But I I take umbrage with that statement that the court short
- 44:14and sweet, that's not how we worked.
- 44:16I meant that and no disrespect. And I'll and I'll, I'm not
- 44:19taking it that way, but I want to make sure you understand
- 44:22that's where we stand here. There's but.
- 44:25But I do recall though in your request originally you reference
- 44:38June 2025. Yes, that is when this whole
- 44:43matter had started. The end of our friendship, Your
- 44:46Honor. Oh.
- 44:47There's OK, there's a friendship.
- 44:48There was a prior friendship. OK, OK, that's fine.
- 44:51That is, that is all I wanted to get the whole truth and nothing
- 44:55but what happened. I then I have a timeline and it
- 45:00is an outstanding 10 pages long and it is just a lot of her
- 45:06posting on social media in correlation to what she has
- 45:11never brought to me personally without screaming and cursing at
- 45:15my children first are. Are you alleging it slanderous?
- 45:19I am. I am.
- 45:20I am. There are other causes of action
- 45:23which I can't get into, but how does that apply toward a
- 45:29personal protection order regarding stalking?
- 45:33Your Honor, she has mentioned and it is,
- 45:48my apologies. I just store it right here.
- 46:06And read it from her uncles. Again, I apologize for the delay
- 46:40in. I am quoting her own personal
- 46:53Facebook page. She makes a comment that she
- 46:57simply said someone who claims to have PTSD sure causes a lot
- 47:01of stress and everyone to everyone in the building.
- 47:04If she would stay out of the hallway and stop yelling at
- 47:07everyone or allowing her children to play board games in
- 47:10the hallway, there would be less noise and there would be no
- 47:12complaints as it is listed in our lease that a Commons area is
- 47:17not a playground. If she claims to have such a
- 47:19disability, she can sure climb stairs, stand in the hallway
- 47:23making up her own stories and speaking Spanish off of of the
- 47:26top of her railing to us. I watched her carry groceries up
- 47:30the stairs. I watched her carry a baby up
- 47:32the stairs. She claims that she's been in
- 47:34bed. She claims that her doctor told
- 47:37her my stress is causing her complications.
- 47:40There is no need for someone to be watching the insurance and
- 47:43outs of anybody who is coming into the building, especially
- 47:49when making derogatory statements about someone's
- 47:52disability to tell me or tell her whole Facebook that she is
- 47:56watching me go up my stairs, go down my stairs carrying my
- 48:01child. And I'm not.
- 48:03I'm not. Trying to be cute or coy with
- 48:05this, but does it ever mention your name?
- 48:08She posts my personal Facebook page that has my name on her
- 48:11Facebook. No, I asked whether or not these
- 48:13posts list your name on it. No, but I am the upstairs
- 48:18neighbor that she insinuates Sir, because she says in her
- 48:23Facebook as well that every other neighbor in our building
- 48:26is cool and it's just her and she only yells at my children
- 48:32and only causes issues and disturbance between me even if
- 48:36everybody else is out of their apartment with us.
- 48:39So I clearly noticed Chief Repke is here, Chief of Police, C Wing
- 48:44Police Department. I'm assuming you've called him
- 48:47regarding these allegations, correct?
- 48:49He first came towards me with no.
- 48:52No, I, I asked a question. Did did have you called him
- 48:55regarding these allegations? I have not called him.
- 48:58Why not? I have called sebeling police
- 49:01but not him personal. Oh, I'm sorry.
- 49:04Well, my, my question was too specific then.
- 49:07Did you call law enforcement complaining of these
- 49:09allegations? I certainly did, Sir, And then
- 49:12they. And was was the Sebeling Police
- 49:15Department stand out? The Sebeling Police Department
- 49:19had made a call towards me and said just make a note of it if
- 49:24you have a notebook. Did you reach out because it
- 49:29appears that and I'm looking at one of your pages here.
- 49:35This was a complaint form to the apartment complex and it
- 49:40references Sheriff's Department. The tenant of a nine was served
- 49:47PPO paperwork by the Huron County Sheriff's Department.
- 49:51So has the Sheriff's Department been involved as well?
- 49:53Yes, he doctor, not doctor. Deputy Loss had served her the
- 49:58hearing paperwork. I see.
- 50:03So this is as of March 23rd, correct?
- 50:08Correct. OK.
- 50:11Anything else you want to bring up?
- 50:14I believe it is discriminating against my disability that she
- 50:18uses her personal Facebook to make an appearance of myself.
- 50:22That is not valid. It is falsified information.
- 50:26She has used the police against me in saying that I make false
- 50:31reports, which I have only made reports against her.
- 50:35The fact that she is talking about my children literally
- 50:40every day and she claims that she is making monetization more
- 50:45more money on the drama here and this is my personal life.
- 50:50This is this is my disability. She has no right to say I am not
- 50:56disabled enough for her own and then post it on Facebook.
- 51:00Having people weaponize themselves and claim to say they
- 51:04can come to my town of Seboing and open a can of whoop ass
- 51:08against me. I have done nothing against this
- 51:13person except for tell her to shut her mouth, stop screaming,
- 51:18stop cursing, come up and talk to the parents.
- 51:23There was no Spanish, I don't speak Spanish.
- 51:26She is making false claims against me.
- 51:29She even has people of sebowing that have businesses comment
- 51:35about my mental health and how I am a psycho bitch and that is
- 51:39unacceptable do. You have any other witnesses you
- 51:44intend to call? Not present, but I do have an
- 51:50exhibit if and. What is your proposed exhibit?
- 51:53It is her final message to the world about how she can continue
- 51:59to post whatever she wants on Facebook.
- 52:01Because it's her Facebook. And it doesn't matter who she
- 52:04posts about because she's allowed to do what she wants.
- 52:08Even if it is harassment. Even if it is saying she can
- 52:11stalk me and know my insurance and outs and that she deserves a
- 52:17peaceful environment, yet so do I.
- 52:19I. I deserve to have a space
- 52:22knowing that I lived there for four years.
- 52:26She still moved in. She claims that I have been
- 52:30intimidating her and then she claims against that saying that
- 52:34she's been ignoring me. I honestly forgot she lived
- 52:39there until these issues arise Sir.
- 52:41OK. Hold on to that.
- 52:44I'd like to hear from the respondent.
- 52:45Miss, how do you respond all? I'm I'm here today because
- 52:55Brittany is my neighbor and we used to have a friendship.
- 52:59Our friendship ended in June of last year.
- 53:04I have made no physical contact with her besides a brief verbal
- 53:08altercation in the hallway about her kids being loud.
- 53:11I've lived in this apartment complex for over six months.
- 53:14I've never interacted with her. I went on with my life since
- 53:18June of last year. I've gotten pictures put on my
- 53:23door of me coming into my apartment with her own contents.
- 53:30I made police reports. I also the village police.
- 53:37Department, yes. And I've only made one police
- 53:41report. And the last six months that
- 53:44since our friendship has ended, there's only one police report
- 53:47and that's since I've lived. And that's when it started in
- 53:50March. I think it might have been out
- 53:51of February. Beginning of March, we stopped
- 53:58being friends because Brittany was complaining about other
- 54:02neighbors. I have a lot of personal
- 54:05messages between me and her about those neighbors and I also
- 54:13have messages of pictures of those neighbors that she took in
- 54:16public places. I also have messages about
- 54:21saying she's going to pick the neighbor's teeth in.
- 54:25I also have messages from Brittany how she's upset because
- 54:32she didn't like the way that the village police was handling her
- 54:35complaints, which I also have a copy of.
- 54:39Nine additional incidents for the Seedling Police Department
- 54:42responded to complaints from Misses Wrightwood, which didn't
- 54:46result in a report being filed. They were documented in their
- 54:50daily logs. There's only one police report
- 54:53made against me if I've been harassing her as she states in
- 54:56her petition for over a year. Also with threats of saying that
- 55:03my boyfriend flashed A firearm, firearm concerns that I have a
- 55:09pattern of habitual harassment. I called the police because I
- 55:13didn't know what to do about it. We had a brief verbal
- 55:16altercation in the hallway about her kids being loud and since
- 55:22then she has fixated and pivoted her harassment towards me
- 55:28because I showed the chief of police all their personal
- 55:31messages, even the ones regarding to he's not doing his
- 55:35police duty, he must not be doing his duty duty and sent me
- 55:39a picture of their personal vehicle at someone's house in
- 55:43the community I didn't know. Whose house it was?
- 55:47I sent all that information over to the chief of police himself
- 55:51so he could review it in his defense.
- 55:56He confronted her and questioned her about it.
- 55:59That's his right to do. Why did you take these pictures?
- 56:02He questioned her. I think there might have been a
- 56:05post that he made on his personal page about it because
- 56:08it's really concerning. Behaved no names.
- 56:11Who took the picture, who sent in the picture?
- 56:14And since then, Brittany has filed so many complaints to the
- 56:20housing department and these didn't start until 3:15, which
- 56:25was the day of the incident. She's been retaliating
- 56:29harassment against me because I'm sure she's probably
- 56:32embarrassed about her behavior. Integrity means a lot to me.
- 56:38I've been in this community for five years.
- 56:40I lived down the street from Brittany.
- 56:42Even after we weren't friends, we went our separate ways.
- 56:45I didn't want to be friends with her anymore.
- 56:47She didn't want to be friends with me because the chief of
- 56:49police had those messages, was on my personal Facebook page and
- 56:55she unfriended me and I quote. This is the last time I've ever
- 57:02contacted her on social media and this is June 9th, 2025.
- 57:08If you didn't want me to talk to him anymore, that's kind of an
- 57:11odd request. It's not OK for what he did.
- 57:15Meaning I'm acknowledging her feelings because I'm an
- 57:17empathic. I have empathy for other people.
- 57:21Life goes on and I won't sit and be mad every day about it.
- 57:24Push me out that's fine I don't trust people anymore either.
- 57:28Instead of coming to tell me you're upset you unfriend me.
- 57:30That's not fair that's your choice.
- 57:32Sorry I bothered you, you were my only friend here.
- 57:36She said exactly life goes on. I said please leave me alone I
- 57:40didn't do anything wrong and she puts laugh out loud you're
- 57:43something else. She then texted my boyfriend and
- 57:52said grow the F up, you've got to throw your two cents and
- 57:56another platform. I responded, which I shouldn't
- 58:01have. This was June of last year.
- 58:03By the way, your honor, I said, now you're texting Alex's phone.
- 58:07Don't harass me and get obsessed over a situation that you've
- 58:11created in your head. I didn't do anything wrong, but
- 58:14tag a cop and a funny post and you've all been on the shape.
- 58:19It was a funny TikTok trend that I tagged Chief's personal
- 58:23Facebook and and she was offended by it.
- 58:28She made me here, under me, I. I I just want to interrupt here
- 58:31for a second. The petitioner's alleging that
- 58:34you're posting all this on Facebook about disability and
- 58:38all this stuff. How?
- 58:39Do you respond? To that, no.
- 58:41I have personal messages between me and Brittany that was
- 58:44included into housing complaints that she was filing disability
- 58:51discrimination, and that was my defense.
- 58:55So you're denying posting anything on Facebook?
- 58:59There is 4 inches thick. I went through some of it.
- 59:02It's very emotional distressing to see her own responses to
- 59:06things that are not even regards to her.
- 59:09I have a lot of neighbors. Some of my posts they might have
- 59:13been about her but it's nothing threatening.
- 59:15I have had Facebook for 16 years, the same account.
- 59:20I've blocked her. I've changed my name, my profile
- 59:23picture, my cover photo, my my location and she's documented
- 59:27all of that. I don't know how she's seen my
- 59:30page. I've tried to block her from it
- 59:33but then she puts it on my door. Even after she filed the PTO she
- 59:38continued to put stuff on my door as new evidence.
- 59:42She's taking pictures of me exiting and leaving my apartment
- 59:46complex and put it on my door insinuating I called her a
- 59:51psychopath and a pussy. Excuse my language I don't even
- 59:54like talking about but ever since I learned the chief of
- 59:59police about her behavior her harassment escalated.
- 1:00:02OK, and I I. I think.
- 1:00:06I think I've heard enough. I'm sorry, no.
- 1:00:08No, no, no disrespect, Port SU Espante calls Chief Repke.
- 1:00:13Chief, would you please step up to the witness?
- 1:00:35You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony are about
- 1:00:38giving this case is. The truth, the whole truth.
- 1:00:40Nothing but the truth, so hope. Again, I do, Sir.
- 1:00:47Please be seated. Thank you.
- 1:00:47You please state. Your name for the record?
- 1:00:49Stephen Repke. Last name spelled Rep as in Paul
- 1:00:52Kie. Your employment, Sir.
- 1:00:55I am the chief of. Police in the village of
- 1:00:56Seabourne How? Many years so employed.
- 1:00:59As the chief here for. How many years of law
- 1:01:02enforcement? 40.
- 1:01:04In your duty as Chief of Police Sea Point, are you as a part of
- 1:01:12your your overall duties to address complaints that may be
- 1:01:16filed by residents or anyone within the village of Sea Point?
- 1:01:19That is correct, Sir. And have you had the opportunity
- 1:01:24to hear what has been stated so far in the courtroom regarding
- 1:01:28what appears to be a dispute between neighbors within an
- 1:01:32apartment complex? I have OK.
- 1:01:35How many times have you gone out to either residence since June
- 1:01:40of 2025 pertaining to issues between neighbors?
- 1:01:45Necessarily not gone out to responded to telephone calls and
- 1:01:50contacts with the Police Department.
- 1:01:51I would say countless. Countless.
- 1:01:54Countless I would 15 to 20 of calls I've taken in regards to
- 1:02:02complaints about the rules being violated in that apartment
- 1:02:05complex. When you have received these
- 1:02:09calls. And it's not just me, Your
- 1:02:11Honor, It's my officers, too. Sure.
- 1:02:15So at least 15 to 20. But I could just off the top of
- 1:02:19my head. Oh Sir, but there you're stating
- 1:02:21there could be more. Yes, Sir.
- 1:02:23That the other officers may have taken a phone call and didn't
- 1:02:26find that it was. It's grown tiresome.
- 1:02:30All right. And is it fair to say that when
- 1:02:33law enforcement receives a telephone call, whether it be
- 1:02:36through, well, typically through dispatch, you have a duty to
- 1:02:40follow through with it? Right.
- 1:02:42And are there occasions where phone calls may come in that may
- 1:02:45not go through dispatch, for instance, that you would or your
- 1:02:49department may address on the phone and that would be the end
- 1:02:52of it? As advice on my yes Sir, sure.
- 1:02:55And is that part of what has been happening here, Sir?
- 1:02:59What are the complaints regarding?
- 1:03:02Overall. Noise in the hallway, noise from
- 1:03:05other apartments, kids riding their bikes in the parking lot
- 1:03:08getting too close to vehicles, parking, complaints about people
- 1:03:12parking in their parking spots, things like that.
- 1:03:16And does this particular apartment complex have a
- 1:03:19manager? Currently I'm not sure.
- 1:03:22Then they did have a part time manager.
- 1:03:26And typically are those matters addressed through the apartment
- 1:03:29complex. That is been our advice that
- 1:03:31would have to be addressed through the apartment complex.
- 1:03:33So anything that you've received complaint wise from June 2025 to
- 1:03:39present that would be alleged criminal activity by either of
- 1:03:43these parties, none. So, seeing the eyes and ears of
- 1:03:56of the village of Seaboin. Bottom line, what?
- 1:04:00What's going on? It occurred before June too.
- 1:04:05There was other neighbors that would make complaints, Miss
- 1:04:09Wood, right? And there's others that have
- 1:04:14moved. It's been kind of a constant
- 1:04:17thing. I've and then it seems to have
- 1:04:20ramped up since June, and then it really ramped up once Miss
- 1:04:24Bazan made me aware that pictures were being taken of my
- 1:04:28wife's personal vehicle and forwarded to other people in
- 1:04:34town. Is that concerning?
- 1:04:38That was very concerning, Your Honor.
- 1:04:40So concerning that I made my officers aware of the incident
- 1:04:45and I also made friends and family aware of the incident.
- 1:04:50My son reacted. It was my son's house that the
- 1:04:54pictures were actually taking, taken at, where we often take
- 1:04:58care of our two year old grandbaby that has a very rare
- 1:05:03disease, one that they really can't even put their fingers on.
- 1:05:07And my wife's off and over there.
- 1:05:09So it touched the nerve. Especially when my wife, who is
- 1:05:13a labor and delivery nurse and has dedicated her life to
- 1:05:17helping others, is accused of being on a booty call.
- 1:05:20I was highly offended. Now regardless of and yet I'm
- 1:05:26not trying to. No, Sir, I understand.
- 1:05:29But does that have anything to do with how the department
- 1:05:34investigates any phone calls coming into your office
- 1:05:37regarding speech between? Neighbors.
- 1:05:39Absolutely not. It seems to have ramped up since
- 1:05:45then to the point that we actually received a complaint by
- 1:05:51a Child Protective Services making allegations against Miss
- 1:05:57Bazan and her boyfriend that about a handgun being waived and
- 1:06:02things like that, which was never reported to the Police
- 1:06:07Department, but it was felt that it should be reported to CPS.
- 1:06:12I just feel that this is become a retaliatory thing against Miss
- 1:06:16Bazan. Miss Woodright, do you have any
- 1:06:23questions of the Chief? I just know, your Honor, that.
- 1:06:28No, I just questions. Do you have any questions?
- 1:06:31Miss Bazan had contacted Chief after she had threatened me and
- 1:06:38I had made a report and I know. Is that is that your question?
- 1:06:43Yes, I would like to know. Please raise the form of a
- 1:06:46question. Did Miss Bazan make a report and
- 1:06:49then or after I made a report contact you in regards to
- 1:06:53something that was about 6 months ago and then that's what
- 1:06:57caused the concern and stir up between you and I?
- 1:07:01Miss Bazan did. I had an officer follow up on a
- 1:07:05report that Miss Wood Wright had made.
- 1:07:09Miss Bazan had come in on a weekend when I wasn't working
- 1:07:13and the officer was able to follow up on the allegations,
- 1:07:17and then Miss Bazan did contact me after that.
- 1:07:19I'm very transparent in my community.
- 1:07:23If people want to friend me on Facebook, I very seldom turn it
- 1:07:27down. I've actually known Miss Bazan
- 1:07:29and her fiance since they were teenagers for my time in Caro,
- 1:07:34your honor. Next question.
- 1:07:37Would that include a personal relationship that would
- 1:07:43insinuate more of a belief system that the accuracy of what
- 1:07:48was told and shown to you against me?
- 1:07:51Sir, would you please say that again?
- 1:07:56The imaging and communication that allegedly happened between
- 1:08:02myself and Miss Bazan. Would your personal relationship
- 1:08:06between you and Missus Bazan have a greater concern for more
- 1:08:11of a belief that this is accurate and true communication
- 1:08:16that she and I had? Not necessarily.
- 1:08:19I was concerned about the fact that my family was brought into
- 1:08:25the matter and the pictures were being taken of my family members
- 1:08:30within the community. I felt that it was a potentially
- 1:08:34dangerous and troubling situation.
- 1:08:37So I weigh relationship any deeper or heavier with the
- 1:08:45Bazan's and the Davises. I would say no.
- 1:08:51I try to weigh out everything as equal as possible, approach
- 1:08:55everything as impartially as I can.
- 1:08:59However, was I very concerned? Absolutely, your actions by
- 1:09:04taking the pictures of my family within the community I found
- 1:09:08extremely troubling. I take it as a threat.
- 1:09:11To my family, any. Other questions?
- 1:09:16And was there clarification made between yourself and myself of
- 1:09:21what had happened over social media after?
- 1:09:24I accepted your apology, but that doesn't mean that I still
- 1:09:31do not find your actions extremely troubling and it is
- 1:09:37caused apprehension within my family, my wife, my son, my
- 1:09:44children, my daughter-in-law, because I have to put them on
- 1:09:48notice that they're being watched in the community.
- 1:09:54Any other questions? If this was such a troubling
- 1:09:57situation and taken so seriously by Missus Bazan, why didn't she
- 1:10:03communicate that towards you sooner than until after a police
- 1:10:07report was made against her for harassment?
- 1:10:09That's. Speculation that's going into
- 1:10:11the mind of another party which this witness does not have the
- 1:10:13ability to do that motion I'm. Starting with that.
- 1:10:17Question. Do you have another question?
- 1:10:18I have to follow the rules of evidence.
- 1:10:21Nope. I just know, Your Honor, that
- 1:10:23this happened over six months ago.
- 1:10:26And if there was no date of you can you can bring.
- 1:10:29Your argument. Do you have any questions
- 1:10:32though? Any further?
- 1:10:32Questions. Was there a time stamp of when
- 1:10:34this had occurred? I did not see one.
- 1:10:37So it was a valid threat of right now presence.
- 1:10:42I deemed it as such. No further questions do.
- 1:10:45You have any questions? Yes.
- 1:10:51I would just like to know why there was false allegations
- 1:10:55made. Of.
- 1:10:56Flashing of a firearm. That's beyond the scope of this
- 1:11:01witness as well. That's as soon as facts not in
- 1:11:04evidence. Other than that, I don't.
- 1:11:05I don't have an. Instruction.
- 1:11:06You make sense. Thank you, Sir.
- 1:11:08You're welcome. Final argument.
- 1:11:11My argument Sir, she is being honest with you.
- 1:11:15She is portraying the victim of something that has been an
- 1:11:20ongoing situation which there are TikTok messages after.
- 1:11:25I just unfriended her your honor and she then went to my partner
- 1:11:30at the time, messaged him, went to my TikTok, messaged me,
- 1:11:35blocked me, unblocked me, messaged me.
- 1:11:38I texted her phone that she gave me her number 2.
- 1:11:42Told her to just stop words lesser than what was said.
- 1:11:47Stop. She then unblocked me and had
- 1:11:50more to say, which is in the documentation.
- 1:11:56This your final argument. My final argument.
- 1:12:00Is I. Have not committed any crimes.
- 1:12:02I do admit to having a verbal altercation about her kids being
- 1:12:05allowed in the hallway but other than that that's between
- 1:12:07management. We don't have an on site manager
- 1:12:10at the time, we have part time ones.
- 1:12:12They're well aware of these incidents as well as the false
- 1:12:14allegations. But other than that, I feel very
- 1:12:20unsafe in my apartment even though I've been there for six
- 1:12:23months. She's shown a severe pattern of
- 1:12:30harassing others, not just me, and this has been retaliation.
- 1:12:35The PPO was filed after I told Chief about her behavior and the
- 1:12:41reason why I didn't bring it to Chief's attention in June.
- 1:12:43The end of her friendship, because that was the end of her
- 1:12:45friendship. It's drama, integrity and means
- 1:12:50a lot to me. And I brought my children to the
- 1:12:54community of saving to raise them there, not to raise them
- 1:12:57around chaos and disability discrimination and firearm
- 1:13:03concerns, accusing me of using drugs.
- 1:13:07It just goes on and on. We could be here all day if I
- 1:13:11sat here and brought everything that she has said against.
- 1:13:13Me. But there's no police reports,
- 1:13:16just one about me yelling at her in the hallway of our apartment
- 1:13:19complex. All these other police reports
- 1:13:22with everybody else, all the other tenants prior and current.
- 1:13:28Thank. You at the conclusion of a
- 1:13:30hearing requesting a personal protection order, the court has
- 1:13:32to state the reasons for either granting or denying the personal
- 1:13:36protection order request. That's pursuant to MCR 3.7 O 5
- 1:13:40as well as MCL 600.2950 ( 7. Also, if the petitioner is
- 1:13:47requesting a non domestic stalking personal protection
- 1:13:51order, the court has again state the reasons why either granting
- 1:13:55or denying and that's what the court is doing here.
- 1:13:58The initial petition was requested ex parte.
- 1:14:01The court denied that based upon the information that was
- 1:14:05contained within the petition being insufficient.
- 1:14:09In this case, we have a relationship, a friendship
- 1:14:13apparently that broke off either in May or June of 2025 and
- 1:14:18essentially the relationship went off the rails.
- 1:14:20According to the petitioner, it was constant harassment, posting
- 1:14:24of messages etcetera on Facebook, contact in the
- 1:14:29hallway, etcetera, all these activities allegedly going on.
- 1:14:36Further, the petitioner is claiming that messages have been
- 1:14:40posted since then which she believes to be again reason for
- 1:14:48a non domestic stalking personal protection order.
- 1:14:51The respondent on the other hand states in part that the petition
- 1:14:56strike that not the petition. But the friendship broke off
- 1:14:59again in May or June of 2025 and since then there have been
- 1:15:05ongoing issues in the apartment complex, potentially loud
- 1:15:10noises, children playing in the hallway, what whatever the
- 1:15:14situation may be. But she states Underoath as well
- 1:15:19as a petitioner with completely opposite evidence testimony that
- 1:15:23she's not posting anything. I inquired to the petitioner
- 1:15:27regarding whether names were specifically posted of
- 1:15:30individuals of the of the petitioner stated by responded
- 1:15:35that something was going on here and there.
- 1:15:39There are none, but you also have to think about what is
- 1:15:46there something else going on here that's a problem?
- 1:15:50And there are even allegations now of, for instance, someone
- 1:15:59carrying a firearm, displaying a firearm, which at a minimum, the
- 1:16:03court can take judicial notice, at a minimum would be at least
- 1:16:08felonious assault, potentially A4 year felony, unlawful display
- 1:16:12of a firearm. I mean, these are serious
- 1:16:14allegations. These are criminal allegations.
- 1:16:17Police were not contacted. However, Department of Health
- 1:16:19and Human Services apparently was contacted.
- 1:16:22And there's nothing in the record to indicate to the court
- 1:16:25whether or not anything was followed up with that
- 1:16:27investigation or not. The court on its own initiative,
- 1:16:33Sue Espante had called Chief Repke, Steven Repke of the of
- 1:16:38the Seaboline Police Department. I saw him in the courtroom
- 1:16:41actually, when the case was called, I saw him stand up and
- 1:16:45which drew my attention to him as well.
- 1:16:48And so I'm, I'm trying to find out what indeed is going on
- 1:16:51here. That's what all the courts
- 1:16:53trying to do. And the reason for the court
- 1:16:57doing that is, at least from my experience, when it comes to law
- 1:17:01enforcement, the purpose of a police agency is to protect and
- 1:17:05deserve number one, number two there and to investigate
- 1:17:08criminal complaints, request arrest warrants, file charges,
- 1:17:14etcetera. That's their job.
- 1:17:17And Chief Refke had taken the witness stand and I had asked
- 1:17:21him regarding what may be going on.
- 1:17:23And what it sounds like is just constant calls, countless I
- 1:17:27think was his word, specifically countless calls coming in to the
- 1:17:32CB Police Department, not only himself, but his other officers
- 1:17:37regarding disputes or issues going on inside this apartment
- 1:17:41compost. Even issues where someone's
- 1:17:46parking in the wrong parking spot or, or you know, trivial
- 1:17:51matters like that may not be trivial to to those who are at
- 1:17:54the apartment, but it's trivial generally speaking, because
- 1:17:58we're talking about non domestic stalking, we're talking repeated
- 1:18:04contact where there are threats involved.
- 1:18:09And what the court heard was basically what I find based upon
- 1:18:19the testimony, simply a relationship that's gone bad and
- 1:18:24toxic to the point where as soon as this court finds that if the
- 1:18:30respondent is even around the petitioner and they I can't help
- 1:18:34the fact they live in the same apartment complex, it brings up
- 1:18:37all these bad feelings and all these allegations are made.
- 1:18:41And, and I mean, it's, it's just thick as thick can be here
- 1:18:45regarding what's going on or what's alleged to be going on
- 1:18:48here. That adds fuel to the fire.
- 1:18:53I get a response from the respondent who is who's
- 1:18:57testified Underoath that the petitioner though she may be
- 1:19:01afraid that she's being stopped posting messages on the
- 1:19:07respondents apartment door, that's what she's testified
- 1:19:11underoath. I allow final argument to allow
- 1:19:15the parties to to raise their points and then the court can
- 1:19:19make a decision based upon having all the knowledge here.
- 1:19:22Not once did I hear in the petitioners prayer for relief
- 1:19:28and or final argument to say that's not true, that didn't
- 1:19:33happen. So it is uncontroverted that
- 1:19:38petitioner is what he thinks on the respondents for.
- 1:19:45And I know for the record she's shaking the petitioner shaking
- 1:19:48her head, but that there's nothing in the record indicating
- 1:19:51that that was not done. So it begs the question, why in
- 1:19:56the world would someone need a personal protection order based
- 1:19:59upon alleged stalking when one the individual's not referencing
- 1:20:03any Facebook messages? Second, the respondent denies
- 1:20:06them that there were posts. But more importantly, the
- 1:20:10petitioner continues to to go to the respondent and and put items
- 1:20:17on the door. Why in the world would you do
- 1:20:22that? If you were afraid or you were
- 1:20:24stalked, there is absolutely no evidence in this case for
- 1:20:29personal protection. Personal protection order
- 1:20:32request is respectfully denied. That is all right.
- 1:20:39It's TCF live on a Super Friday. Women behaving badly with Judge
- 1:20:44Pearl. Ladies and gentlemen, Lindsay,
- 1:20:46thank you for the $2.00 super chat earlier.
- 1:20:49And Michael, thank you for your $2.00 super chat.
- 1:20:51Appreciate you both. Let's let's go back to Judge
- 1:20:57Elmore. Let's go there.
- 1:21:01I'm Jeff. Harrison, I'm here on behalf of
- 1:21:02Actually. Rosie, she's now.
- 1:21:04Joining me at the table. Thank you.
- 1:21:06You may be seated. Rosie is currently trial
- 1:21:10custody. We're here today for a couple
- 1:21:12things. Looks like we've got a retrial
- 1:21:18hearing maybe and a bench warrant.
- 1:21:20So I'm going to go over a few things.
- 1:21:25This court issued a bench warrant on March 19th, should
- 1:21:30have been last Thursday 4 initially for testing positive
- 1:21:36for the controlled substance methamphetamine and the
- 1:21:40controlled substance of marijuana presented through the
- 1:21:44appalite THC, and then subsequently they're also
- 1:21:49related to that. And that same day, allegedly the
- 1:21:52defendant failed to appear for testing on or about Saturday,
- 1:21:59March 14th. And what are we doing today, Mr.
- 1:22:07She's prepared to make admissions as the material
- 1:22:13allegations the only thing that might cause us some.
- 1:22:17Trouble is. The.
- 1:22:18Failure to test delegation. For which she did.
- 1:22:22Not have any. Prior notice.
- 1:22:28All right, Miss Cruzi, am I saying it correctly?
- 1:22:32Yes, Sir. Thank you.
- 1:22:33Please read the right hand of the best you can.
- 1:22:34Do you swear or affirm the information testimony about by
- 1:22:37shall we to keep the whole truth and not but truth?
- 1:22:39Yes, Sir. You may lower your hand.
- 1:22:41All right. So, Miss Cruzi, you were out on
- 1:22:45bond in this file and you were ordered not to possess or use or
- 1:22:50consume substances and to be randomly tested at community
- 1:22:57corrections. And it appears that you went
- 1:22:58down, signed up for testing, Is that right?
- 1:23:02Now I'm told you're going to admit to violating this
- 1:23:04condition. I need to let you know that you
- 1:23:06do have the right to due process, which means you could
- 1:23:09have a contested hearing in the prosecutor to have the burden of
- 1:23:12proof to try to demonstrate that you've violated your bond by
- 1:23:15violating the orders of the court.
- 1:23:18Now, failing to comply with an order of the court could be
- 1:23:20considered contempt, but the court doesn't use that power.
- 1:23:26Contempt could get you up to 90 days in jail, up to $7500 in
- 1:23:31fines and costs, but the court doesn't go down that road.
- 1:23:35The court only looks at this as a review of your pretrial
- 1:23:39release conditions pursuant to Mission Coral 6.106.
- 1:23:43Now also joining us this morning, Miss Smith can start
- 1:23:45from the community pressure. I'm told today that you're
- 1:23:49admitted the testing positive for methamphetamine and
- 1:23:53marijuana for violating the order and consuming that
- 1:23:59substance. If you do, you will not have a
- 1:24:00hearing of any kind. Does that make sense?
- 1:24:03All right, And has anybody made any promises, threats,
- 1:24:06reducement to compel you to admit to violating your bond in
- 1:24:09this way? Is and therefore Miss Cruzi, is
- 1:24:14it true that on March 19th of this year you reported a
- 1:24:18community corrections provided a sample for testing, right And
- 1:24:25was that a urine sample and did it tested positive for
- 1:24:30consumption of methamphetamine and marijuana?
- 1:24:33Is that correct? And is when was it that you used
- 1:24:36that substance, those substances?
- 1:24:39Marijuana. It's.
- 1:24:40Been in my system this whole time.
- 1:24:42I was a daily user prior to all this so she told me that would
- 1:24:46be in my system for a while, but the last time I used marijuana
- 1:24:50was the end of February and the last.
- 1:24:53Time. That I consumed that was.
- 1:24:59A. Dare so prior to me testing OK.
- 1:25:03All right, Miss Stark, do you know when she reported to
- 1:25:10community Corrections initially? Like when did she start the
- 1:25:14testing is what I'm looking. Her first Test was on March 10th
- 1:25:18and. 2 was positive. OK.
- 1:25:21And when did was that? That was her first Test, you
- 1:25:23said. Mr. Card, are you satisfied with
- 1:25:33your proofs? I am your.
- 1:25:35I'll just dismiss any marijuana allegations.
- 1:25:37Because I know that can stay. But I'll make it's OK.
- 1:25:42I was going to make your money can stay in your fat cells.
- 1:25:44And I don't want to say fat related to a woman in public,
- 1:25:48but great. Now you made me do it.
- 1:25:57Thank you, Mr. Harrison. Are you satisfied?
- 1:26:00I I am indeed. The Court is as well and I find
- 1:26:04that the admission today is made freely, knowingly and
- 1:26:07voluntarily. The Court finds that the
- 1:26:10information provided in the file as well as stated by Miss
- 1:26:14Cruzie, is that she violated the terms and conditions.
- 1:26:18Therefore, the Court finds her in violation of her bond for the
- 1:26:23consumption of of methamphetamine.
- 1:26:27All right, so now becomes the question about what to do with
- 1:26:31the defendant. I know here on the telling
- 1:26:34information, she's got a charge of possession of meth, assault
- 1:26:38with a dangerous weapon, a machete, and assault resist
- 1:26:45destructive police officer. I note that the possession
- 1:26:48doesn't have any secondary subsequence.
- 1:26:52And I also note that the also there's also a charge of 4th her
- 1:26:56child abuse in the 4th degree. But I Yeah, but here's my point.
- 1:27:06I don't see it at a prior felonies.
- 1:27:10Go ahead, Mr. Karl. That's correct, Your honor.
- 1:27:12I think there should. Be a. 2nd subsequent controlled
- 1:27:14substance. She doesn't.
- 1:27:15Have a. No.
- 1:27:17Never mind, she's not eligible for 7411, but we.
- 1:27:20Still. Can't it was successful.
- 1:27:24And. When was that?
- 1:27:28She was marijuana. Until it was some time all
- 1:27:30right, Miss Dark again. This.
- 1:27:38She had just began testing a couple weeks ago, correct?
- 1:27:431st test was on March 10th, On March 14th.
- 1:27:46She was a no show. And then?
- 1:27:49She had driven the 19. Minutes back.
- 1:27:52All right. OK, Mr. Cards, what do you want?
- 1:27:57What was your recommendation, Your Honor, at this time I would
- 1:28:02ask. The clerk to.
- 1:28:03Remand the defendants the reason that she is on bond.
- 1:28:09For possession of methamphetamine and.
- 1:28:12Amphetamine while she's on bond. I'm covering for Miss Kerry, so
- 1:28:18I'm not going to. Say too.
- 1:28:19Much, but I'm sure Mr. Harrison wants to make a motion with
- 1:28:25treatment plans in the future. That would be something my
- 1:28:29office would consider, but at this time.
- 1:28:31I do think. Mr. Harrison, before I turn to
- 1:28:35your recommendation about bond, but I see that we're also here
- 1:28:40today for a pre trial. And.
- 1:28:44Is that? Schedule concurrently, Your
- 1:28:46honor, it is OK. So I don't know.
- 1:28:49So I'll ask you to fill out the Court's forms for that, but do
- 1:28:54you know whether or not there is a resolution to the case today?
- 1:28:58There is not. As it.
- 1:29:00Stands right now we are working toward that.
- 1:29:03That's fine. That's all I need to know.
- 1:29:05All right, so now we will fill up the sheet for you.
- 1:29:07I'm sorry, it's all right. You're you're fine.
- 1:29:09So that means I jump ahead to question about your record, your
- 1:29:13position and what to do with Bond.
- 1:29:16Well, regarding Bond, this case is unique to the extent that.
- 1:29:20She posted. A $25,000.
- 1:29:23Surety. Bond.
- 1:29:26With the court. On the. 4th of March, I believe,
- 1:29:29your Honor, and that has not been.
- 1:29:32Obviously. Forfeited or called in by the
- 1:29:35bondsman or anything like. That so that would.
- 1:29:38Remain available to her, Does remain available to her in terms
- 1:29:43of securing her free trial release.
- 1:29:47As Mr. Karn sort of indicated, we are working on arrangements
- 1:29:51to find a rehab placement for her.
- 1:29:54We actually have. One, we just can't get the dates
- 1:29:58to line up and we're working with Harbor all that get us in
- 1:30:02front of it so we can file a motion and do the proper the
- 1:30:06proper procedure with the court. I don't know why I.
- 1:30:09Stumbled over proper procedure. Maybe it was the alliteration.
- 1:30:13The long shot of it is she's got a $25,000 bond hanging over the.
- 1:30:19Bondsman. And we're.
- 1:30:21Working on getting her into rehab.
- 1:30:24She has a concurrent case involving the same child.
- 1:30:28That's a part of the incident and the current matter that she
- 1:30:34needs to attend to as well. Obviously she could do that much
- 1:30:38better. If she's not in jail, she would
- 1:30:41be staying with her grandparents.
- 1:30:45Yeah, she has a job, so. Where do you work?
- 1:30:48I am a. Manager over at the 115
- 1:30:50McDonald's. I was offered my job back when I
- 1:30:53was currently, I've been a manager over there in the past
- 1:30:56four years and. All right, all right.
- 1:30:59Mr. Harrison, I. Already know what I'm going to
- 1:31:00do. OK.
- 1:31:01I'll stop talking to you. That's all probably a good idea.
- 1:31:05So. A couple options.
- 1:31:06Miss Trudy and I know what I'm doing and I'm doing it.
- 1:31:08For a reason. I'm going to set the hook and
- 1:31:14see. If you mess up.
- 1:31:15If you do and you just give me a reason to lock you up longer if
- 1:31:19there's a plea or a conviction. So when the Legislature changed
- 1:31:25the statute a few years ago and said that for intermediate
- 1:31:27sanction cells, we're supposed to start with a presumption of
- 1:31:30no, no jail, just probation and costs for any felony.
- 1:31:38It tells judges if you're, if you're going to give jail, let
- 1:31:43them see if see if they mess up. You've already messed up once.
- 1:31:46So I'm going to release you back out on your bond and I will add
- 1:31:52to it that you are to enroll an enhanced outpatient treatment
- 1:31:56program through community corrections.
- 1:32:00That's going to be a treatment program now.
- 1:32:02Also close to the $25,000 next time you go.
- 1:32:11To. Use it'll be 25.
- 1:32:17So that's a it's a really expensive hit $25,000 is what
- 1:32:22that it's going to cost you potentially now put your bomb
- 1:32:27and put you in the jail. So if you do, and I'm not trying
- 1:32:31to say, oh, that guy's trying to be a real mean guy.
- 1:32:35No, no, I'm trying to give you incentive that before you inject
- 1:32:39it or smoke it, you go, does that look like it's worth
- 1:32:43$25,000? I lost.
- 1:32:46My chair. No.
- 1:32:49So I'm set in the book. Let's see if you do.
- 1:32:51Well. Thank you very much.
- 1:32:52Anything else, Mr. Carnes? Mr. Harrison.
- 1:32:55Nothing proving your. Other thing just started.
- 1:32:58We did hear from you. Do you have anything else?
- 1:33:00No. By the way, she's almost wearing
- 1:33:02orange too. Disregard.
- 1:33:04Thank you. Have a great day.
- 1:33:05Thank you too. TCF live, It's a Super Friday.
- 1:33:12Speaking of which, thank you Grandma TCF for your $2.00.
- 1:33:15We're halfway to our goal today, so I got to tell you it is women
- 1:33:24behaving badly day in Huron County.
- 1:33:29I give you the case of hope versus Maddie.
- 1:33:33Now, hope versus Maddie. TH it's really Madeline Toner,
- 1:33:39but the Titian reads Maddie Toner, so that's why the court
- 1:33:44stated as such. Case Number 26 8175 pH.
- 1:33:48The time and date set to challenge a personal protection
- 1:33:51order that was granted by this Court on March 16, 2026.
- 1:33:56Both parties are present. Would you both please raise your
- 1:33:58right hand? We solemnly swear or affirm that
- 1:34:00the testimony are both giving this case is the truth, the
- 1:34:02whole truth, Nothing but the truth.
- 1:34:04So how you got? Thank you.
- 1:34:06Back in March 16, 2026, the court received a personal
- 1:34:10protection order request and that was requested ex parte,
- 1:34:17which means that it was requested without a hearing.
- 1:34:26And after the court reviewed the petition and reviewed the
- 1:34:31attachments, including a police report, the court issued a
- 1:34:37personal protection order against Miss Toner.
- 1:34:40And in its reasoning, the court stated there were two separate
- 1:34:43acts of contact with the petitioner, including sending
- 1:34:46and intimidating social media message and alleged assault and
- 1:34:49battery and or assault upon the petitioner.
- 1:34:54Miss Toner is challenging that and that's what this hearing is
- 1:34:58about. The burden of proof rests with
- 1:35:01the petitioner to continue the personal protection order.
- 1:35:05So I am going to ask Miss Bedford to explain why you
- 1:35:12believe this personal protection order should be continued.
- 1:35:15Go ahead. I have written a statement and I
- 1:35:17do have a copy to and then. Admin.
- 1:35:23As well. Why don't you just read it into
- 1:35:24the record please? That's your statement.
- 1:35:26My name is Hope Bedford. Before the assault, I felt safe
- 1:35:29living in my usual routine. After it my life has been
- 1:35:32constructed. I do not feel safe going out in
- 1:35:35public anymore, anticipating that I will run into either
- 1:35:38Heather or Madeline. This incident has changed
- 1:35:40aspects of my social life by making me question where I can
- 1:35:44be at with my friends without being attacked by these
- 1:35:47individuals. The physical injuries healed,
- 1:35:50but for nearly two weeks sleep has no longer been restful as I
- 1:35:54could not turn off my thoughts. I have been anxious while at
- 1:35:57work and then have had to explain why I wasn't attending
- 1:36:00activities that I was attending before the assault.
- 1:36:03The pain wasn't only scratches and a busted lip, it has also
- 1:36:07been the daunting feeling of being stuck in fight report
- 1:36:09mode. I do not feel that it is
- 1:36:13necessary or required to be put in a situation again where I
- 1:36:16have to defend. Myself.
- 1:36:18This pertains to any physical and or verbal assaults in person
- 1:36:22or online that may be directed at me.
- 1:36:26Emotionally, I have been living with fear and anger
- 1:36:28simultaneously. I feel angry that someone else's
- 1:36:32actions force provisions on my life that I had never asked for
- 1:36:36modifications on where I go, what I do, and whom I have taken
- 1:36:41place in my life. I am only 26 years old and I
- 1:36:44believe that I should not have to walk through my daily routine
- 1:36:47wondering what will happen to me next.
- 1:36:50I shouldn't have to walk around in fear.
- 1:36:53The fear and emotional distress I experienced are ongoing and
- 1:36:56directly tied to the incidents that led to the original order.
- 1:37:00I am most concerned about the retaliation that may take place
- 1:37:04due to me contacting local law enforcement.
- 1:37:08The night of the assault, I was completely humiliated in a room
- 1:37:11full of friends and patrons who frequently visit my place of
- 1:37:15employment. Madeleine decided it was
- 1:37:18acceptable to put her hands on me and verbally assault me while
- 1:37:21doing so. I believe a termination to this
- 1:37:23order does not fully reflect the seriousness of the verbal and
- 1:37:27physical assault that I had experienced.
- 1:37:30I was the one who received the threatening that message from
- 1:37:33Madeline. I was the one who was verbally
- 1:37:35assaulted and then physically assaulted on the night of the.
- 1:37:3714th. Therefore, I am attempting to
- 1:37:40protect myself and ensure that I won't be in any additional
- 1:37:43situations or with reoccurring scenarios.
- 1:37:47Since the incident, I continue to feel vulnerable.
- 1:37:52Madeleine's past actions have demonstrated A disregard for my
- 1:37:55safety and personal boundaries. I respectfully ask the court to
- 1:37:59consider the sustained impact of my security, my work and my
- 1:38:03mental well-being, and to establish provisions that
- 1:38:07protect me moving forward. My intention is not to escalate
- 1:38:10the situation but to ensure my safety and prevent further harm.
- 1:38:17Miss Bedford, your last name is spelled DEDFORD.
- 1:38:21Yes, you are all right. Miss Bedford, prior to, I
- 1:38:26obviously read the petition and I've read the response prior to
- 1:38:30February 13, 2026. Is there a relationship,
- 1:38:34friendship, acquaintance between you and the respondent?
- 1:38:37No, no. OK.
- 1:38:41And as I read in the petition, so apparently on the 13th of
- 1:38:46February, you were at a local establishment, we don't need to
- 1:38:50name it, but you were at a local establishment and what was your
- 1:38:56purpose of going to that establishment on February 13th?
- 1:38:59My Co workers and I would often go to wash after our shifts as
- 1:39:03it is right down the road from our establishment just to sit
- 1:39:06and mingle. All right.
- 1:39:08And on that day, were there things said by you that caused
- 1:39:20some sort of stir in the in the room or explain what happened
- 1:39:26what what happened on that night?
- 1:39:28Me and my personal and me and my Co worker were having a personal
- 1:39:32conversation in regards to people who he had went to school
- 1:39:35with and people that I had known and I had mentioned Madeline
- 1:39:42Toner's name and we began discussing her.
- 1:39:46And let me stop you. You said a personal
- 1:39:49conversation. What does that mean?
- 1:39:52As in, like we weren't talking at a volume to where I would be
- 1:39:58concerned about what I was saying.
- 1:40:01OK, so are are you stating that you're you're not, You know, for
- 1:40:07instance, let's say you were talking about me.
- 1:40:09Well, Pearl is this. Pearl, is that you know what I'm
- 1:40:12saying? The loudness and and for all to
- 1:40:14hear. Are you stating that that's not
- 1:40:17what occurred? Correct.
- 1:40:19OK, so you're having some sort of conversation regarding Miss
- 1:40:23Toner. How did you know Miss Toner if
- 1:40:24you if you really didn't have an association with?
- 1:40:27Her I used to be friends with somebody who was friends with.
- 1:40:30Her OK. Yes, so I.
- 1:40:32Never. And and I don't want to go into
- 1:40:34what may have been said by you, but something was said regarding
- 1:40:38Miss Toner, correct by you, Yes. What happened next?
- 1:40:44Her mother had approached me and told me, I just want to let you
- 1:40:48know that it's my daughter. I don't appreciate you speaking
- 1:40:52about her. And immediately I apologized.
- 1:40:55OK, how do you know that this is Miss Toner's mother?
- 1:41:03I had no idea until she had told me.
- 1:41:06OK. And was her mother also a patron
- 1:41:13that night or. She was the bartender.
- 1:41:17Oh, OK, she's the bartender. How?
- 1:41:19Far away were you from her when you were having this
- 1:41:22conversation with your friends. I believe that as I was having
- 1:41:27this conversation with my Co worker she was walking up to the
- 1:41:29table. OK.
- 1:41:31Yes. So fair to say she overheard
- 1:41:33something. Yes.
- 1:41:34OK, so you get confronted about it.
- 1:41:37Was it respectful? No, why?
- 1:41:41Explain to me why you feel it wasn't.
- 1:41:43She was very nasty towards me after and I I admitted I said I
- 1:41:48am wrong and I apologize and it just kept going and her volume
- 1:41:54just kept getting louder and louder.
- 1:41:57OK, after that happened, what happened next?
- 1:42:04I had received a message from Madeline via Facebook Messenger.
- 1:42:09And I do. Have is that the one that you
- 1:42:11Smith. OK, Court reviewed.
- 1:42:17Did Miss Toner's presume mother do anything to you at the bar?
- 1:42:26Because I there's something about banning.
- 1:42:28Do you recall that something happened at the bar that night?
- 1:42:33I went to leave and I was going to go and apologize to Miss
- 1:42:38Toner's mother again and as soon as I put my coat on she looked
- 1:42:44at me and said something along the lines of.
- 1:42:48Well, we can't go to what was said, but bottom line, were you
- 1:42:51banned from coming back into the?
- 1:42:53I was not, no. No.
- 1:42:55Were there any words of that effect?
- 1:42:57Just get out. Just get out.
- 1:42:59OK. Did you comply with that?
- 1:43:01Yes. OK.
- 1:43:03After you left the establishment, when is it that
- 1:43:07you claim this message was sent from this toner to you?
- 1:43:11This message was sent while I was still sitting in the
- 1:43:14establishment. Oh OK and just want to read it
- 1:43:20into the record so we have it clear.
- 1:43:22According to TO this must not have anything better to do with
- 1:43:26your effing time huh? Have to go and run your mouth at
- 1:43:29the local bars question mark. Small town word travels fast.
- 1:43:34Better watch what you have to. I'll say effing say.
- 1:43:37Is that the message? Yes.
- 1:43:39How did you take that message? As the threats.
- 1:43:42Why? Because I just the last
- 1:43:48sentence, you better watch what you have to say that I took that
- 1:43:53as a threat because I did apologize when I was wrong.
- 1:43:58OK, so after the message was sent, anything go on after that?
- 1:44:06I left the establishment. Right.
- 1:44:07But any other communications or interactions between you and the
- 1:44:14respondent up until March 14th, no.
- 1:44:20Not between me and this toner. OK.
- 1:44:23Radio silence, right? No issues.
- 1:44:25Yes. Did you go into this
- 1:44:27establishment prior to March 14th?
- 1:44:30No. Why not?
- 1:44:32I just avoided it. OK.
- 1:44:35However, you claim that you went into the establishment on March
- 1:44:3914th, correct? Yes, your Honor.
- 1:44:42And so we're talking a little over 2 weeks ago, correct?
- 1:44:54Yes. OK.
- 1:44:55I'm just looking at the calendar.
- 1:45:00You go into the establishment for what purpose?
- 1:45:02To celebrate a friend's birthday.
- 1:45:04OK, so you go in, correct? Yes.
- 1:45:08What happens? I immediately after I walked
- 1:45:12through the door, the respondent's mother, Heather,
- 1:45:17was standing on her chair screaming my name.
- 1:45:20I did make eye contact with her but I decided that I was just
- 1:45:23going to ignore her and I walked over to a group of people, Co
- 1:45:28workers that were in the establishment.
- 1:45:30Was this person working that night?
- 1:45:33The person we were going to celebrate.
- 1:45:35No, no, I'm sorry. That what you believe to be who
- 1:45:39you believe to be Miss Toner's mother?
- 1:45:43Is she working that night? I don't believe so, no.
- 1:45:46OK. And Miss Toner in the
- 1:45:53establishment as well. Yes, your Honor.
- 1:45:55OK now what happened after you claim mother was either yelling
- 1:46:08your name or or or made made some sort sort of practice here
- 1:46:13to to get your attention. What do you claim is Toner did?
- 1:46:19After the statement was made shortly after, I was approached
- 1:46:23by not only Heather, the respondent's mother, but the
- 1:46:27respondent as well. OK.
- 1:46:29And what happened? Basically, Heather decided that
- 1:46:35she was going to verbally attack me, and then she verbally
- 1:46:38assaulted me. And then shortly after Madeline
- 1:46:41did the same as well. What?
- 1:46:43Do you mean by verbal assault? Just saying like discriminatory
- 1:46:48things, calling me, cursing at me, stuff like that.
- 1:46:53OK. You allege in your petition,
- 1:46:56though, that there's something physical that happened as well.
- 1:47:00Correct. Now I want to focus.
- 1:47:02Let's focus first on respondents.
- 1:47:09You claimed mother. Yes.
- 1:47:12All I want to focus on is what establishing or what happened in
- 1:47:15the establishment at the time. What do you allege that this
- 1:47:19individual did she? Shoved me.
- 1:47:21OK. Did you approach her?
- 1:47:25No. I was approached by her.
- 1:47:30Did you incite her in any way? Absolutely not, no.
- 1:47:36OK, as a result of the push is that when essentially all lack
- 1:47:44of a better phrase, all hell broke loose inside the
- 1:47:46establishment. Yes.
- 1:47:48OK. What did you see, if anything,
- 1:47:51of what Miss Toner may have done?
- 1:47:54To me personally, yes. She was standing in front of me.
- 1:47:58She was looking me dead in my eyes.
- 1:48:00She had pushed me. I went to defend myself.
- 1:48:03She has stated I am pregnant, you cannot hit me.
- 1:48:07So therefore I took my attention off of her and back to her
- 1:48:12mother. OK, did you confront her, Miss
- 1:48:16Toner? No, Your Honor.
- 1:48:19Who approached to? Madeline approached me.
- 1:48:23And as a result of this alleged melee was police were police
- 1:48:33called. Yes, your Honor.
- 1:48:35OK, police responded. Yes, your Honor.
- 1:48:39And some sort of complaint was made.
- 1:48:41Yes, your Honor. Why do you believe a personal
- 1:48:50protection order in your own words?
- 1:48:53And I know you read your your statement, I appreciate that.
- 1:48:56But why do you feel that we need to continue this personal
- 1:48:59protection? Order.
- 1:49:00I feel like you need to continue.
- 1:49:02The court needs to continue this personal protection order for my
- 1:49:05safety. I feel as if the personal
- 1:49:09protection order was lifted off that there would be more
- 1:49:14incidents to be taking place. I feel like there would be more
- 1:49:18verbal incidents and even possibly physical incidents.
- 1:49:23As well. You placed in your petition that
- 1:49:32you were allegedly barred from going into the establishment.
- 1:49:35You recall that in your petition.
- 1:49:37I yes, I want to say that personally, no one has reached
- 1:49:44out to me to let me know that I was barred.
- 1:49:47Well, you you've alleged in your petition that apparently you
- 1:49:51reached out to the establishment owner that correct?
- 1:49:56I don't believe so, Your Honor. Did that wrong.
- 1:50:01I believe that my manager, my dining room manager from my
- 1:50:05workplace, had reached out. To oh, OK, yes, OK, that that's
- 1:50:10right. In your petition, you allege
- 1:50:12that your your EB made contact and were you indeed barred from
- 1:50:20the establishment? No, it's my knowledge, Your
- 1:50:23Honor. OK.
- 1:50:26Anything else you want to add before I ask whether you have
- 1:50:29any other witnesses? No, Your Honor, do.
- 1:50:31You have any other witnesses? No, Your Honor.
- 1:50:33All right, Miss Toner, this is your opportunity.
- 1:50:37How do you wish to respond? So I received the I received the
- 1:50:43PPOI, then went and filed a paper to terminate it.
- 1:50:54If you if you read the witnesses that have wrote statements on
- 1:51:00her behalf, my name is not included.
- 1:51:03This is an an issue that happened with my mother who is
- 1:51:07the bartender and I don't feel like I need to be involved.
- 1:51:12Yes, I did send a message. No, it was not threatening in
- 1:51:15any way. I have never spoke to her.
- 1:51:18We were friends on social media. After I sent my message, I
- 1:51:21didn't find it necessary to have her on there because she was
- 1:51:25spreading my personal information around in the public
- 1:51:28that I didn't feel was appropriate, so I unfriended
- 1:51:31her. Unfortunately, I was put in the
- 1:51:34middle of a fight or whatever you want to call it, the night
- 1:51:41on. The 14th.
- 1:51:50March 14th. And I stepped in to intervene.
- 1:51:55When I stepped in to intervene at this point, it had already
- 1:51:58escalated. And yes, I did make this
- 1:52:01statement. I am pregnant.
- 1:52:03But it wasn't something that, you know, nobody knew at that
- 1:52:07point. Because.
- 1:52:09It's already being spread around the town.
- 1:52:12I just don't feel like I need to be in the middle of it.
- 1:52:15If you read the witness statements, I am not the
- 1:52:17aggressor. I am not the attacker.
- 1:52:20Everybody had made that very clear and as a result of what
- 1:52:23happened the night on the 14th of March, I ended up in the
- 1:52:26hospital with major abdominal trauma, which I have provided
- 1:52:31medical records for that. Well, you provided records of
- 1:52:35conditions of of treatment, but there's nothing to review.
- 1:52:44It gives you steps on what you need to do.
- 1:52:49I have the paper. Let me.
- 1:52:52Take a. Look here.
- 1:52:58Follow up procedures, future appointments if necessary.
- 1:53:02The triage patient summary. What page is that?
- 1:53:08It should be the first one attached after my statement.
- 1:53:14It's. Down at the bottom it says
- 1:53:17discharge diagnosis. One colon 2.
- 1:53:24One weeks gestation of pregnancy?
- 1:53:28Yes. Two trauma during pregnancy.
- 1:53:31OK. All right.
- 1:53:37And I believe you allege in your response that someone had struck
- 1:53:42you, correct? Yes, not a petitioner.
- 1:53:46I was pushed, but I was pushed because.
- 1:53:49Well, no, I'm please answer my question.
- 1:53:52The petitioner didn't push you or strike you, correct?
- 1:53:55During everything that was going on, yes, I was pushed.
- 1:53:59I I didn't ask whether you were pushed.
- 1:54:01I asked whether or not you were pushed by the petition.
- 1:54:05Where? Where did you list that in your
- 1:54:07response? Then I state that.
- 1:54:44Page 4. OK, you stayed.
- 1:54:51Hope it pushed me into the bar and then self-defense.
- 1:54:57And then self-defense to protect myself and my unborn child.
- 1:55:01I retaliated back and pushed, pushed back, OK.
- 1:55:09Do you review the police report that was provided regarding this
- 1:55:12as well? No.
- 1:55:14Because this whole incident is not being investigated by the
- 1:55:17Darren County Church Department, it's being investigated by the
- 1:55:20Machine State Police. OK.
- 1:55:22But that night, it was investigated by the Sheriff's
- 1:55:25Office, correct? When I had given my statement
- 1:55:31officer, can I provide names or? Oh, absolutely.
- 1:55:35Officer Sir Vesti came out to talk to us and at the time, from
- 1:55:40my understanding, there were no charges or allegations being
- 1:55:45pressed against me, they were all against my mother.
- 1:55:55OK, an individual by the last name Indu INDO.
- 1:55:58Does that ring a bell? Yes.
- 1:56:00Who is that? She's a bartender at the.
- 1:56:06And what's her first name? Nicole.
- 1:56:11Nicole. How do you know Nicole?
- 1:56:15She's one of the bartenders at the wash and then she is.
- 1:56:20A cousin. I believe.
- 1:56:22OK. And I don't have it in front of
- 1:56:28me, but according to the police report that the court had the
- 1:56:34opportunity to review, and I don't know why it's not here,
- 1:56:37but it it indicated that the pushing for the behaviors really
- 1:56:51we're focused on your mother and in part on you.
- 1:56:58There was nothing that I recall of any pushing.
- 1:57:05So, and I could be wrong, I could be wrong, but apparently
- 1:57:13Michigan State Police is investigating this now.
- 1:57:15Yes, it was all turned over to them.
- 1:57:17OK. All right.
- 1:57:19Have you heard anything regarding the status of this?
- 1:57:22I haven't spoke to them in probably a week.
- 1:57:27So are are you stating that the petitioner went up to you and
- 1:57:36pushed pushed you? During the fight, yes.
- 1:57:41Where were you originally when all this started?
- 1:57:44So after my mom had called Hope and her boyfriend by their name
- 1:57:50when they had first walked in the door, I said it's time that
- 1:57:53we leave. I had already paid our tax.
- 1:57:55I said it's time that we leave. You know I can already see where
- 1:57:58this is going. I said we need to go.
- 1:58:00We were waiting for my aunt. She was in the bathroom and my
- 1:58:04mom had walked up to the front well where the bar section is
- 1:58:09and I followed her because she was already aggravated and I
- 1:58:13said no it's time to leave and I had gotten after hoping my mom
- 1:58:19had their altercation. I had stepped in the middle to
- 1:58:22try to de escalate it. And.
- 1:58:25But you were expecting. Why in the world would you do?
- 1:58:28That there was a lot of drinking involved.
- 1:58:31By who? My mother?
- 1:58:33My aunt? Why?
- 1:58:36Were you even there that time? I was just getting dinner and I
- 1:58:40was served drivers back home. 10 in the evening.
- 1:58:45Yes, they have been drinking and they.
- 1:58:47Served dinner 10:00 at night. They stopped serving at eight
- 1:58:52stop. Stopped.
- 1:58:53Serving dinner at 8:00. O'clock OK.
- 1:59:02Does the last name of KOTH ring a bell?
- 1:59:04Yes. The court recalls when it
- 1:59:09authorized the petition that you claim that you were punched or
- 1:59:15someone claimed and may have been Zindu, that claimed that
- 1:59:19you were punched by someone by the last name of Cope.
- 1:59:27Is that correct? Yes.
- 1:59:28OK, All right. Anything else you want to add to
- 1:59:32this? No, I guess just after reviewing
- 1:59:36two different, two different statements that I had been
- 1:59:43served with and then as a copy of what was sent to me on 3/18.
- 1:59:52There's two very different stories like I said in each
- 1:59:55statement from each witness. I I my name is not even listed
- 2:00:01and. I just don't feel like this is a
- 2:00:04situation that I need to be involved in when the problem did
- 2:00:08not originate with me to begin with.
- 2:00:12Do you have any witnesses you intend to?
- 2:00:14Call. Not that I can present today,
- 2:00:18no. OK, All right, All right.
- 2:00:21Miss Bedford, no other witnesses.
- 2:00:25This is your argument. Anything you want to say?
- 2:00:28Yes, I do believe that these personal Protection Orders do
- 2:00:33move to stay in place for my safety.
- 2:00:37But it's now alleged that you pushed this zone.
- 2:00:44That is in. OK, but, and maybe I failed to
- 2:00:52ask this, but I'm going to ask this, how is it you you describe
- 2:00:56how Miss Toner's mother confronted you.
- 2:01:04I guess I need to know what is your side regarding whether you
- 2:01:09had any confrontation with Miss Toner that night?
- 2:01:13Part 14. So I was first approached by her
- 2:01:17mother and then she was to follow behind her.
- 2:01:20Did you move at all from your location when you were
- 2:01:23initially? No.
- 2:01:25OK, Nope. So if you're stating that if
- 2:01:33Miss Toner had contact with you, Miss Toner would have approached
- 2:01:40you, correct? I was approached by her.
- 2:01:43OK. And I'm assuming you're denying
- 2:01:45that. No, I did approach her OK after
- 2:01:51this statement was made. She had made this statement to
- 2:01:55my mom. You're an effing bee.
- 2:01:59Get out of my face. You can't tell me that I can't
- 2:02:03be here. And then she looked me that in
- 2:02:09my face and said the same exact thing.
- 2:02:14And you're an effing bee to get out of my face.
- 2:02:19And then after that, that's when all hell broke loose.
- 2:02:22Understated your final argument then, please.
- 2:02:26What I said previously, I guess I will use this my final
- 2:02:29argument. OK, fair enough.
- 2:02:32All right. Same as in the last case, except
- 2:02:34this personal protection order was granted.
- 2:02:36They responded, may file a motion to terminate a personal
- 2:02:39protection order within 14 days of being served of it.
- 2:02:42She's timely done that and the hearing is scheduled.
- 2:02:48The court has the opportunity to hear the evidence presented and
- 2:02:51the petitioner has the burden of persuasion in a hearing held on
- 2:02:55a motion to terminate or modify a personal protection.
- 2:02:58That's under the Pickering case. 253 mishap 694.
- 2:03:02In 2002, the court heard testimony of a situation that
- 2:03:10occurred on or about, I believe, February 13, initially. 2026
- 2:03:16Petitioner enters a local establishment and according to
- 2:03:19her to her testimony was with a Co worker or supervisor, but
- 2:03:25again friend or Co worker and they were a particular spot in
- 2:03:30in this establishment and they were had a had a private
- 2:03:33conversation. Part of the conversation
- 2:03:36apparently involved the respondent.
- 2:03:39Come to find out, the respondents mother works at the
- 2:03:42establishment had clearly overheard what was stated and as
- 2:03:48a result there was interaction between the petitioner and the
- 2:03:51respondents mother as a result of that, according to the
- 2:03:58petitioner, she claims she apologized for her behavior, for
- 2:04:02making her comments and for whatever reason it it didn't
- 2:04:07stop there. She attempted a second time,
- 2:04:09according to her testimony, and at that point, before the
- 2:04:17petitioner left the establishment, a message is sent
- 2:04:24here's via Snapchat and I'm going to read the whole thing
- 2:04:28into the record. I don't like doing this with
- 2:04:32with the cuss words, but it it bears repeating at 11:37 PM must
- 2:04:38not have anything better to do with your fucking time, huh?
- 2:04:41Have to go and run your mouth at the local bars.
- 2:04:44Small town word travels fast. Better watch what you have to
- 2:04:48fucking say. I don't like saying that, but
- 2:04:51that's the message. According to the petitioner, she
- 2:04:55felt threatened by that message. Responded says no, that's not a
- 2:05:01threatening message. So the court has to consider
- 2:05:04that. Fast forward to March 14, 2026
- 2:05:08and the court recalls the initial petition that the
- 2:05:14respondent's mother had claimed to have barred the petitioner
- 2:05:21from going back into the establishment.
- 2:05:24However, the initial petition also indicated that petitioners
- 2:05:30supervisor contacted the owner of the establishment who stated
- 2:05:33there was no such barring that was in the initial petition. 14
- 2:05:40comes along, evening hours 10:00, 10/30, whatever the time
- 2:05:44may be. Responded claims she's there for
- 2:05:47dinner. Petitioner comes in.
- 2:05:51Petitioner has someone with her, petitioner's boyfriend, I
- 2:05:56believe. I don't, I don't know if there
- 2:05:57were any other individuals there.
- 2:05:59I believe there were. They went into the establishment
- 2:06:02and the respondent's mother who was not working at the time,
- 2:06:08raises her voice, starts calling out the petitioner.
- 2:06:13All while this is happening, responded is in the
- 2:06:16establishment as well. It appears to the court,
- 2:06:21according to the testimony, petitioner stood up or should
- 2:06:26say she stayed in her spot. Respondent's mother went and
- 2:06:31approached her. We have alleged pushing and we
- 2:06:40also have the respondent, according to the petitioner,
- 2:06:46approach the petitioner and push her.
- 2:06:50That's what she said. Respondents position is I was
- 2:06:58minding my own business, it's really my mother and when I saw
- 2:07:05things were going bad, it's time to leave.
- 2:07:09So responded attempts to leave. She claims petitioner went to
- 2:07:14her, pushed her and then the melee that happens.
- 2:07:24Now clearly there was 1 unconsented communication
- 2:07:29between the parties on February 13, 2026.
- 2:07:33Now mind you talking about other people can cause problems
- 2:07:39clearly and it did in this situation.
- 2:07:42I don't know the details, I don't want to know the details
- 2:07:44of what may have been said. But apparently there was a
- 2:07:46private conversation between the petitioner and and a friend or
- 2:07:51cola. Things were said allegedly
- 2:07:55privately still heard by respondents mother and that
- 2:08:00starts it before the petitioner leaves.
- 2:08:03As stated, the message was sent at 11 something in the evening
- 2:08:09and respondents position is that's not a threatening
- 2:08:14message. Court takes judicial notice of
- 2:08:19the last sentence. Better watch what you have to
- 2:08:21effing say. OK, we'll leave it at that.
- 2:08:29Fast forward to March 14, 2026, Petitioner re enters the
- 2:08:34establishment and I already brought up what the allegations
- 2:08:39were between the parties going on and what I find significant
- 2:08:48to determine because it's a burden of persuasion that that
- 2:08:50is upon the petitioner to maintain the personal protection
- 2:08:54order. The response of the respondent
- 2:08:58is hey, look, I'm kind of caught in the middle.
- 2:09:01It really involves my mother. I shouldn't be a part of this.
- 2:09:03I just want to be out of it, which is understandable.
- 2:09:06But petitioner claims she never approached.
- 2:09:10The respondent responded in claims.
- 2:09:15She did approach, but she was trying to get out of the
- 2:09:17establishment. That's what she stated.
- 2:09:22Petitioner said when she was approached that respondent was
- 2:09:26in her face and get out of my face.
- 2:09:29Responded in claims that the petitioner also said that get
- 2:09:33out of my face. That would indicate to the court
- 2:09:36that the respondent approached the petition.
- 2:09:40Why would she state that and why would the respondent admit that
- 2:09:43the petitioner made that statement if the respondent did
- 2:09:46not get into the face of the petitioner?
- 2:09:48That's the second unconsceptive contact.
- 2:09:51Regarding pushing. Petitioner claims she didn't
- 2:09:55push. Respondent claims she did.
- 2:09:57Petitioner pushed her, but the Court takes judicial notice of
- 2:10:01the initial petition in the police report, which indicated
- 2:10:04that the reason for the alleged trauma of the respondent was
- 2:10:09some sort of punch that was from a third party unrelated to the
- 2:10:13petitioner. Court finds 2 unconsented
- 2:10:18contacts. Personal protection order is
- 2:10:20appropriate and it shall continue.
- 2:10:22That is all. And at least for the moment,
- 2:10:30that brings an end to women behaving badly with Judge Prill.
- 2:10:33I'll keep an eye on his court, see if he has any more hearings
- 2:10:36today. But that was interesting.
- 2:10:40Let's go to Texas and we'll see what's going on with Judge
- 2:10:44Stevens. Pronounce your first name
- 2:10:46Duratia or Duratia Williams. And Mr. Kindler is here and the
- 2:10:54State's attorneys are here. As you know, there's a motion to
- 2:10:57revoke unadjudicated probation in this cause #25 CR 425.
- 2:11:02Does the defendant waive a formal reading of this motion
- 2:11:06filed on December 12th, 2025? Can we proceed in some first
- 2:11:11thing we're going to do? There was an issue raised by the
- 2:11:13defense on the defending of some competency as to whether she was
- 2:11:20or was not prominent to proceed with her proceedings or the
- 2:11:27doctor Ed upon licensed psychiatrist to evaluate the
- 2:11:30defendant. He is prepared and we've
- 2:11:34received the report dated March 20th, 2026 finding the
- 2:11:39defendants could be confidence. I'm going to call this report
- 2:11:44towards exhibit ones On this date and it will be made a part
- 2:11:56of the record in this proceeding without objection.
- 2:12:17So I don't think, OK, it is received and we can proceed.
- 2:12:29In summary, raise your right hand, ma'am, do you soundly
- 2:12:32swear or affirm? Any statements you make during
- 2:12:33this hearing shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
- 2:12:36the truth. So help you.
- 2:12:36Got it. In summary, this Motion to
- 2:12:40revoke on Adjudicated probation filed in December of last year
- 2:12:44in this cause #25 CR 425 states that on July 9th of last year,
- 2:12:512025, you were placed on 10 years deferred or unadjudicated
- 2:12:55probation for evading arrest or detention with a motor vehicle,
- 2:12:58a third degree felony. Is that true?
- 2:13:02Yes. One state, you committed the
- 2:13:03offensive assault of a public servant on or about October
- 2:13:0619th, 2025 in Jefferson County, Texas in violation of your
- 2:13:12probation order. Is that true or untrue?
- 2:13:18Did you have y'all talked? I guess she's previously heard.
- 2:13:23No, this is the only motion here and there's nothing on the face
- 2:13:27of your side would light on that.
- 2:13:29I wrote on mine that wait, she and her fees are not true on
- 2:13:33January 30th and I wouldn't put that.
- 2:13:37I thought, what are we doing? Is she admitting to anything
- 2:13:40here? And let's admit she didn't admit
- 2:13:43to anything back on January 30th.
- 2:13:45We conducted a hearing, OK, The what are we going to do today?
- 2:13:48Is she going to admit she's been found confident?
- 2:13:51I think the issue of confidence was raised prior to a
- 2:13:54disposition. She's been declared confidence
- 2:13:57and that we proceed to a disposition at this stage what
- 2:14:01we're trying to do So what? Are we going to do?
- 2:14:04My understanding is that the state presented all of its
- 2:14:07evidence on January 30th. I had Officer Lonic testify
- 2:14:13about the proof as to the assault that he occurred to him
- 2:14:19as well as the fleeing, and that was where the State limited its
- 2:14:23evidence on presentation on January thirty 30th, January
- 2:14:2830th, Counts 1 and two, we have video evidence that showed that
- 2:14:33the flame was. In this lawyer's.
- 2:14:36Pending obvious. And then there was the body Cam
- 2:14:40footage that showed where she struggled and kicked him in the
- 2:14:48appropriate areas alleged in the assault.
- 2:14:51And if necessary we can retrieve the video.
- 2:14:56That was. Placed in evidence to remind
- 2:14:59evidence. So after I passed the witness
- 2:15:02and Mr. Kindler was cross examining the so the defendant,
- 2:15:06he was raising the issues about her mental stability and out of
- 2:15:11caution, Your Honor ordered the examination.
- 2:15:15She's been determined to be competent.
- 2:15:17I would ask that the court let's pick up where we left off in
- 2:15:20that hearing. I would ask that the court made
- 2:15:22findings are true as to counts one and two and proceed to
- 2:15:25punishment. What what do you want to say
- 2:15:28disposition. Yeah, I think that's accurate,
- 2:15:31Your Honor. And then if my profession, my
- 2:15:34recollection got a lot better. I think while that the court if
- 2:15:37I could slip over an argument. So the law of the court does
- 2:15:40find it could be competent. Here are some indications of
- 2:15:45health issues that make military may be a treatment with the
- 2:15:49disposition of the MTRP. OK.
- 2:15:51Then the court will find that based upon the earlier hearing
- 2:15:59and this hearing and presentation of evidence
- 2:16:03concerning defendants competency, where the defendant
- 2:16:06is declared confident that the defendant pleaded true.
- 2:16:11To well. She didn't plead True that the
- 2:16:15court found based upon the evidence presented true to
- 2:16:21allegations one and two by a preponderance of the evidence or
- 2:16:24greater, that the defendant committed the offensive assault
- 2:16:27of public servant in honor about October 19th, 2025 in Jefferson
- 2:16:32County, Texas, in violation of condition one of her probation
- 2:16:36order. And that she committed the
- 2:16:38offense of fleeing a police officer on or about October
- 2:16:4119th, 2025 in Jefferson County, Texas, in violation of condition
- 2:16:46one of her unattusicated order. The court not only deems it
- 2:16:51meets the threshold for for ponders of the evidence, but the
- 2:16:54court found it true beyond a reason leveled out in each of
- 2:16:59these cases. So what should shall we do
- 2:17:06Defense. Well, you are, well, many.
- 2:17:08Times. Thank you.
- 2:17:09I think when people are faced with some people are action with
- 2:17:16law enforcement, they're reacting in a way that doesn't
- 2:17:19seem to it seems to define explanation.
- 2:17:22I I would observe this is all probation for a previous
- 2:17:26offensive of dating, of course. Of all the.
- 2:17:29Law enforcement now this interactive in law enforcement
- 2:17:34in a way that this resulted in secure activity.
- 2:17:38I think I don't know that the problem this exam goes into her
- 2:17:42mental health history rather extensively.
- 2:17:44She's in a position to kind of really indicate to the court why
- 2:17:47she seems to be triggered by interaction for the law
- 2:17:50enforcement. I would assert too during an
- 2:17:55incident now that's giving rise to the allegations of the
- 2:17:59interior fee. There were no there was no
- 2:18:00contraband found in it or there really seemed to be no rational
- 2:18:03explanation for her actions other than just she has.
- 2:18:08I don't know that I'm not an expert, but PPSD and a trigger a
- 2:18:12trigger in the event dealing with law enforcement.
- 2:18:14I'm not trying to excuse it, maybe trying to contextualize
- 2:18:17it, but she could maybe. Tell teleport it what what you
- 2:18:20have on the. Atlanta is he has changed
- 2:18:22actions with you. Awesome.
- 2:18:25No, I'm blacked out. She's mumbling.
- 2:18:29I can't hear you. I'm blacked out.
- 2:18:31I really don't even remember. I'm scared of the police.
- 2:18:36I'm scared of the police. That's the Is that the root of
- 2:18:39your troubles? You think nobody knows more
- 2:18:47about you than you? Let me ask you Have you ever
- 2:18:51been convicted of any other criminal offenses?
- 2:18:57Yes. Yes.
- 2:18:58OK. How many times I don't?
- 2:19:01Know. I don't.
- 2:19:04Know you don't know how many times you've been convicted of a
- 2:19:07crime twice OK is that is that your.
- 2:19:13Violence. Yeah.
- 2:19:14Twice, is it? No.
- 2:19:19I found that for any misdemeanors or felonies that
- 2:19:22are above a Class C misdemeanor above a traffic offense.
- 2:19:26Carlos Carlos five times. Sir, now 566 times.
- 2:19:34Well, we're not playing horseshoes.
- 2:19:38This is real life. You should know better.
- 2:19:42You should know more about you than why.
- 2:19:44Shouldn't have to correct you on that one.
- 2:19:47This should, but that's two 2468 actually 9 * 9 times 9
- 2:20:03conviction. What's that said?
- 2:20:10That's from 2011 through 2024 and now this one.
- 2:20:17You're looking at on a probation.
- 2:20:21I mean, I stuck my neck out on this one with this criminal
- 2:20:23history and it's assault, prohibited weapon, switchblade
- 2:20:30and brass knuckle or something. Assault, family violence,
- 2:20:34resisting arrest, failure to identify, driving while
- 2:20:37intoxicated, driving while intoxicated, resisting arrest,
- 2:20:42resisting arrest and surf. Those are all there are
- 2:20:47misdemeanors that they're still you were arrested and then you
- 2:20:50have to serve jail time. You every one of those were one
- 2:20:59was two days, one was 9 days and the rest were 60 days or more.
- 2:21:04Anyway, that and, you know, evading arrest has consequences
- 2:21:11because this is let's see. Yeah, 3 resisting arrest
- 2:21:22convictions before this one. So you know of evading or
- 2:21:26resisting are in the same family.
- 2:21:29They have consequences. All right, He has 83 days credit
- 2:21:34here. This is a third degree felony.
- 2:21:37So what should we do, Judge? My suggestion is a five year
- 2:21:41sentence. I think it's warranted by the
- 2:21:45criminal conduct prior to her being placed on probation.
- 2:21:49It's additionally warranted because of the offense.
- 2:21:52It was the felony offense that was committed that your honor
- 2:21:56saw the the video on. And frankly I still remember
- 2:22:02this officer test fine now two months ago.
- 2:22:06He showed great amount of discretion with this individual.
- 2:22:11He could have charged her with the same offense she was on
- 2:22:13probation and chose the misdemeanor offense of fleeing
- 2:22:16instead. I believe your Honor even
- 2:22:20commented on the record about that.
- 2:22:22Just the length of time that went with here and then the
- 2:22:27number of officers that it took to get her just to comply speaks
- 2:22:31volumes. Then if we go past that and this
- 2:22:35year she's had 10 different violations that she's been
- 2:22:39written up for in the jail that she just doesn't.
- 2:22:43Want to follow? Rules.
- 2:22:44I don't believe putting her back on probation is going to be
- 2:22:47beneficial for anybody, certainly not for Jefferson
- 2:22:51County. I think the five years would be
- 2:22:56appropriate. Defense.
- 2:22:58You know, I don't disagree with Mr. Dan's characterization of
- 2:23:01the officers conduct in this case.
- 2:23:02I think he showed remarkable discretion, nothing interacting
- 2:23:05with the defendant, his choice of the charges to file.
- 2:23:09So certainly I don't take any issue with the the officer in
- 2:23:12this case. He went left behind to try to
- 2:23:16treat Miss Whit. Treat her Miss Whit is
- 2:23:19appropriately. What are you suggesting we do?
- 2:23:21Well, I've without hearing from the professional officer.
- 2:23:24I don't know if they're willing to continue to supervise her.
- 2:23:27If there's still a chance that maybe with some sort of mental
- 2:23:30health intervention and they're able to mediate the issues that
- 2:23:33she seems to have her current law enforcement, that'll be one
- 2:23:36thing. If the court is inclined to
- 2:23:38revoke her, I'll ask the court to consider, take into
- 2:23:42consideration, you know, health issues and consider a lower,
- 2:23:45lower end of the statutory branch, anything from probation.
- 2:23:50No, Sir, we just didn't have a chance to really spend any time
- 2:23:52with her. I mean she got on probation in
- 2:23:55July, she got a new charges in October and but during that time
- 2:23:58she never told us anything about any health issues or the address
- 2:24:01there. So.
- 2:24:03Anything you want to add, ma'am? I mean, I asked my probation
- 2:24:06officer, but I was in Houston, so I was, I don't know who
- 2:24:12should have talked to the one in Houston.
- 2:24:16I mean, I was kind of confused. She may remember the 48 person
- 2:24:21well. The important thing the first
- 2:24:23thing you have to do is not commit another crime which you
- 2:24:26did twice along with the other 9 fire conditions.
- 2:24:37Court finds that these are new. What are you going to do with
- 2:24:40those two Probably a sufficient to serves on each which ones
- 2:24:45Judge this to me this the the October 19th.
- 2:24:50All right. So I have a felony offense
- 2:24:53that's pending for the assault on peace officer and in
- 2:24:56misdemeanor court we have the fleeing offense.
- 2:24:58Is that where it is? Yes, Sir, and I will find that
- 2:25:02if nothing further, there is sufficient evidence supporting
- 2:25:04this motion to revoke unjudicated probation at grant
- 2:25:07by preponderance of the evidence of greater as the court finds
- 2:25:10allegations one and two proven truest.
- 2:25:13The defendant admitted the violations and the court earlier
- 2:25:27in the hearing found them to be proven true not only by
- 2:25:33proponents of the evidence, but beyond a reasonable doubt that
- 2:25:36assault on a public servant and fleeing a public officer.
- 2:25:40Criminal violations were committed by the defendant on
- 2:25:42her probation. Thus, that is a violation of her
- 2:25:45probation order. The population is hereby
- 2:25:48revoked. Earlier in this case, the
- 2:25:51defendant had pleaded guilty to the third degree felony and
- 2:25:55evading arrest or detention with a motor vehicle voluntarily,
- 2:25:58knowingly, intelligently. That was there was sufficient
- 2:26:02evidence supporting her guilty pleas from State's Exhibit 1.
- 2:26:05You know, guilty plea from State's Exhibit 1 admitted her
- 2:26:08plea to support her guilty plea to find her guilty beyond a
- 2:26:12reasonable doubt. I had deferred any finding of
- 2:26:15guilt at this time. The Court is moving forward
- 2:26:18basing on on her violations of probation.
- 2:26:23I now find you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of that third
- 2:26:26degree felony you had pleaded guilty to back in July of last
- 2:26:30year, and I find you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
- 2:26:33You were hereby sentenced to confinement in the Institutional
- 2:26:36Division of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice to serve a
- 2:26:39term of four years. You will be given credit for all
- 2:26:42the time you have served in accordance with this case.
- 2:26:46The police knew that all the zones see OK anything else and
- 2:26:54that is all we may be in another Cincinnati on who Homebase rings
- 2:26:59over. It's all What are we doing on
- 2:27:03Amanda? She's not here.
- 2:27:10OK, so on Amanda Nolan, we're going to pass on that.
- 2:27:15OK, So to go passing what you can do on that other.
- 2:27:18We'll have. Langston.
- 2:27:19We'll have to. Yes, Sir.
- 2:27:20Yes, we only broke up. Yeah, the.
- 2:27:33One and two, and then they're going to work.
- 2:27:36Out the sentence in this space. Right.
- 2:27:40That's what it sounds like, yeah.
- 2:27:47I'm almost done. This little girl.
- 2:28:01Yes, it's not a indicted case. It's the one you oh, this one
- 2:28:05you said the bond on the bond saying is there's I know, but
- 2:28:09this one. Yes, OK.
- 2:28:12You just wanted to go over and find today, all right.
- 2:28:16There is a matter that was presented to the court yesterday
- 2:28:22by the the General District Attorney's office for Jefferson
- 2:28:28County, Texas. And you are Charles Wilson the
- 2:28:31Third? Yes, Sir.
- 2:28:32And you were here with Mr. Amps, your attorney and the State's
- 2:28:36attorney. The State of Texas file a notice
- 2:28:45for a review of a bill decision. You had been placed on $65,000
- 2:28:54bond for an aggravated assault and a $15,000 bond for family
- 2:28:59violence and the State of Texas. The District Attorney's Office
- 2:29:06deems that amount is insufficient under the law to
- 2:29:11ensure that you will properly appear an answer before the
- 2:29:14court and to ensure the safety of the community and the safety
- 2:29:17of the victim. And for those reasons, they
- 2:29:20asked for a review of this bond decision.
- 2:29:24And the court has 24 hours to make a decision.
- 2:29:29And so I, the court made a decision yesterday because of
- 2:29:35some emergency matters that prevented all of us from getting
- 2:29:42together. But I had to make a decision and
- 2:29:45this Court did make a decision finding this order, finding this
- 2:29:54request in good 'cause I for good cause.
- 2:29:59And upon reviewing the public safety reports, the problem of
- 2:30:04cause affidavit, and the other documentation in this file on
- 2:30:09these cases, the Court raised your bonds to $100,000 in each
- 2:30:15cases and also ordered that if you post these bonds, you must
- 2:30:23remain at home. You have you would be on home
- 2:30:26confinement except for allowing to leave home only for
- 2:30:34necessities of food, medical care, and meeting with your
- 2:30:38attorney. And you must travel to and from
- 2:30:42your house in the most direct route possible.
- 2:30:44You must have AGPS device if you post these bonds so that you
- 2:30:49know so that we know where you are at all time and and to
- 2:30:54ensure that you're not violating these conditions.
- 2:30:59And also, I think those are the essential features of what the
- 2:31:10court did. Now what?
- 2:31:13Because the rule of law states I have to make a decision, we
- 2:31:17couldn't get together. I asked you to you and your
- 2:31:20attorney in the state to have a hearing today to show cause why
- 2:31:27and present any evidence why the court's decision should not be
- 2:31:31continued and enforced based upon what the court deemed
- 2:31:36yesterday. And I'm giving the defense an
- 2:31:39opportunity to be heard and to present any additional evidence
- 2:31:43you want me to consider. And so I will because I will
- 2:31:46consider modifying the bond decision if I find good 'cause
- 2:31:53from evidence presented. Go ahead.
- 2:31:55Yes, you are. You know, I specifically judged
- 2:31:57under 17 point O 28. Is the the state?
- 2:32:04Our burden show that the safety of the community and ensures its
- 2:32:07safety of the victim of alleged offense warrants this increase.
- 2:32:11Our request to review is born you honor.
- 2:32:14We ask that the state disclosure what we would believe to be
- 2:32:17Brady information as it relates to the states burden as to
- 2:32:22safety, the community or the safety of the victims.
- 2:32:25It's my understanding and I'll ask that the states it was
- 2:32:28closed if this is true that the alleged complainant did not want
- 2:32:33the bond to be increase one and that to in fact this Tuesday she
- 2:32:39went to the district attorney's office to have the charges
- 2:32:42dropped. If that is true and that would
- 2:32:45be Brady, that would clearly be Brady for purposes of a bond
- 2:32:49hearing. If she in fact went to the day's
- 2:32:52office to have a charge of dropped.
- 2:32:54And if in fact she did not seek to have this bond increase, then
- 2:32:59on the legal issue of of 17 point O28 safety of the victim,
- 2:33:07that's clearly Brady. And that would go to that
- 2:33:10particular, you know, that's my position.
- 2:33:12My position would be that that would be Brady and I would ask
- 2:33:15the state to disclose. Well, in fact.
- 2:33:17And how does, how does your client know that she went and
- 2:33:20did that? I didn't tell anybody because I
- 2:33:22don't know about that. But you know.
- 2:33:25Has he been in contact with the victim, which he's not supposed
- 2:33:27to be doing? Well, that's that's well, that's
- 2:33:29this. Yes, in fact it is.
- 2:33:32Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:33:34Again, if y'all want to. Conduct a hearing on your own.
- 2:33:37That's fine, but. But I think this is braided this
- 2:33:41one so the. Court's decisions even though
- 2:33:47the state of Texas always has the burden of proof within these
- 2:33:51matters because of the presumption of innocence
- 2:33:54standard, this court still it has its own independent access
- 2:34:01to the problem cause affidavit and the criminal history which
- 2:34:05is I am required by law to review in determining bond
- 2:34:08issues. That's why I made my decision
- 2:34:11and found that the. Bond.
- 2:34:14Was too low and not appropriate under the circumstances this
- 2:34:21court review I'm giving the defense an opportunity to
- 2:34:25present any evidence you and I have those two that the that the
- 2:34:28court will consider in whether it which it will modify my bond
- 2:34:35order from yesterday. Go ahead.
- 2:34:37What Judge Mr. Larry says that he's unaware of that, but if in
- 2:34:42fact that that is true? Our.
- 2:34:44Position is that that's Brady and that would go to the safety
- 2:34:47of the community and the safety of the victim.
- 2:34:48And I got some more evidence. Yeah, Brady.
- 2:34:50That's Brady our. Position the experience has been
- 2:34:54the this office has been very sensitive about Brady.
- 2:34:59We all should be. We all are.
- 2:35:02And I've not found them to intentionally, no, no.
- 2:35:06I'm not saying he's. Grady material.
- 2:35:08They honor their oath and conduct it responsibly, just as
- 2:35:13you do in your go ahead. You guys obviously asked that.
- 2:35:17Honestly, he can't do it now, but at some particular point in
- 2:35:20time, since he does not know that he'd look into whether or
- 2:35:24not the lady came up with the drop charges and we'd look into
- 2:35:27whether or not she did not pursue this.
- 2:35:29But I I got evidence other than that.
- 2:35:31But that's why. That's.
- 2:35:33The cold. We'll, we'll note that and it's
- 2:35:38in the record, but at the end of the day, the decision is in the
- 2:35:42executive branch of government, not her.
- 2:35:45Somehow, some way, she, she was a complaint somewhere along the
- 2:35:51line. And when that happens, then the
- 2:35:54executive branch of government takes over and does what it does
- 2:35:59under their responsibilities of the oath that they have taken
- 2:36:02under the Constitution, the laws that state effects in the United
- 2:36:05States. So I don't find that they've
- 2:36:07done anything inappropriate in this case except follow their
- 2:36:12oath. And we've had situations where
- 2:36:16complainants change their mind for whatever reason.
- 2:36:21The the worst thing that can happen, though, is if they
- 2:36:24change. If they decide to change their
- 2:36:29statements of victimization based upon influence or coercion
- 2:36:35or even contact on behalf of the defendant, it would be
- 2:36:40catastrophic for you because this court takes no prisoners.
- 2:36:48When that is found to be done, you cannot disrupt what this
- 2:36:55Constitution stands for and what the law stands for.
- 2:36:57And that's what happens sometimes when people behind the
- 2:37:00scenes try to influence others who are involved in the criminal
- 2:37:06process in pro and properly, that if that is done, it will be
- 2:37:10dealt with severe. But nonetheless, I don't have
- 2:37:14any reason. I don't have any information
- 2:37:18before me to change what the court's decision was yet.
- 2:37:22That's why I'm giving y'all a chance.
- 2:37:23You know I'm. Going to call my client as a
- 2:37:25witness. Charles Wilson the Third Raise
- 2:37:29your right hand, you solemnly swear or affirm.
- 2:37:31Any statements you make during this hearing shall be the truth,
- 2:37:34the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
- 2:37:36So help you God. Yes.
- 2:37:38Speak out. Yes, Sir.
- 2:37:40All right, go ahead. Thank you.
- 2:37:42Mr. Wilson, you understand that I'm not going to ask you any
- 2:37:45questions at all about the facts for this particular office and I
- 2:37:49ask you nothing. But if you understand that yes
- 2:37:52Sir, you understand on our rules and evidence that you testify on
- 2:37:54a preliminary matter does not subject to the cross examination
- 2:37:58for any other issues. The only question that I'm I'm
- 2:38:02asking you all about is for financial.
- 2:38:07Abilities right before you get through.
- 2:38:10I don't think that's the. Accurate I think.
- 2:38:11I can cross examine him on any issue as part of the part of the
- 2:38:15the rules or part of the reason the judge made his decision was
- 2:38:19on the safety of the community. So I can talk to him about the
- 2:38:21offense. So before you put him up there,
- 2:38:24you better, you better get him, get him ruling.
- 2:38:26I don't judge, I don't think that he's subject to cross
- 2:38:29emulation. All I'm asking any questions is
- 2:38:31about his basic income and his ability for a 65,000 on the
- 2:38:35bond. And asking about his income has
- 2:38:37nothing to do with whether or not he committed family violence
- 2:38:41against this lady. And I think it does the issues
- 2:38:45on Bond for the ability to follow the bond conditions and
- 2:38:51whether his release would be a safety to the community or and
- 2:38:55or the victim or others. They can go anywhere because
- 2:38:59because part of the bond conditions is not to put.
- 2:39:03Or. Include not to commit first
- 2:39:06thing, don't commit another offense, but it's it opens the
- 2:39:12you could possibly open the door for the sucking matter to be
- 2:39:15allowed. Yeah, well, I got to take a
- 2:39:23break. No, right now.
- 2:39:25Standby. I'll be right back.
- 2:39:27Thank you. OK friends, TCF live Super
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- 2:40:12Where to where to? Let's go.
- 2:40:22Allegan County, Michigan Judge Burnett, Truancy I.
- 2:40:30I've. Received information from the
- 2:40:32attorneys. That.
- 2:40:34This Mollus is demanding her jury trial, so we will conduct
- 2:40:38their settlement. First of all, I have reviewed
- 2:40:41both of these files. I've been involved in them and
- 2:40:46it's the course understanding that this point in time we have
- 2:40:51no loose ends and we are ready to go to.
- 2:40:57Trial. On the 2.
- 2:40:58Counts of truancy the. Named victims.
- 2:41:03In this case. Are Leila malice and Talent
- 2:41:08Malice? Mr. Velar, from your office.
- 2:41:12We'll be trying this. Case.
- 2:41:15I will, Your Honor. OK.
- 2:41:18And Mr. Velar, do you know if the victims?
- 2:41:23Will be. Present for trial.
- 2:41:26I don't think we have brought the victims and I don't think
- 2:41:30that would be appropriate actually, unless the court
- 2:41:32requires them. We have the school and school
- 2:41:36liaison officer to testify as to the missing days.
- 2:41:41OK. So you do.
- 2:41:42Have your witnesses and you have everyone that.
- 2:41:45You. Believe would be necessary in
- 2:41:48order to prove your case. Yes, OK.
- 2:41:51And they've all been subpoenaed and they're all ready to be here
- 2:41:57next week. That is my understanding, Judge.
- 2:42:00They're ready. OK.
- 2:42:03Are there any other? Witnesses that you.
- 2:42:04Intend to call. No.
- 2:42:09Any exhibits that you intend to use for trial?
- 2:42:12Yes, we've turned over the exhibits that we intend to use
- 2:42:17for trial and discovery. They would include.
- 2:42:21Let's see if I can find them on here.
- 2:42:24We have attendance records, attendance logs, we have
- 2:42:32attendance contracts. There's three separate
- 2:42:34attendance contracts, parental behavior letter that we have.
- 2:42:39So yes, we've turned those all over as well, OK.
- 2:42:43And. Was an offer.
- 2:42:45Of. Settlement made to municipal
- 2:42:47from on her client's. Behalf.
- 2:42:50Yes, there was. There was a offer that we had
- 2:42:51hoped would resolve the case, but it was not able to resolve
- 2:42:55the case. Would you be?
- 2:42:58Willing to tell the court what that offer was?
- 2:43:01Yeah. Our offer was to allow Miss
- 2:43:03Molas to plead no contest to 1 count of truancy.
- 2:43:08In exchange, we would dismiss a second count of truancy.
- 2:43:11We would dismiss the case of contributing to delinquency of a
- 2:43:15minor and we would dismiss the companion family law cases going
- 2:43:24on in the family law court, and they refused.
- 2:43:28To. Accept that offer and Miss
- 2:43:31Wolfram you. Convey.
- 2:43:32That offer to your client. I did, your honor.
- 2:43:35OK. And she is rejecting that.
- 2:43:38Yes, unfortunately, Your Honor. And is there any sort of counter
- 2:43:42offer that Miss Malas would be willing to accept?
- 2:43:53I suppose if there was further discussion regarding limiting,
- 2:43:59you know, potentially like a defer, like a deferred plea or
- 2:44:05something like that, where, you know, if she completed some
- 2:44:07version of, you know, community service or something like that
- 2:44:11and we were able to, you know, dispense.
- 2:44:15But I mean, I just, I want to be honest with the, the court, my
- 2:44:20client is going to, based on the orders of the other court, have
- 2:44:23to continue to interact with the school.
- 2:44:26And obviously the custody case will continue regardless of, you
- 2:44:30know, all of this. And unfortunately, because of
- 2:44:33those outstanding issues, that is why I'm, I'm very reluctant
- 2:44:36and my client is very reluctant to accept offers of, you know,
- 2:44:41responsibility or liability where she doesn't, you know,
- 2:44:45fully believe that she has criminal liability because of
- 2:44:50the continued exposure and, and the detriment to her children.
- 2:44:55So an offer was made for one misdemeanor and three
- 2:45:03misdemeanors would be dismissed. Also, a neglected abuse case
- 2:45:07would no longer continue to proceed.
- 2:45:12And she is declining that offer because she has a domestic
- 2:45:23matter going on and she would rather have two separate trials
- 2:45:30on 4 misdemeanors as well as maintaining a a case in.
- 2:45:37Family. Court on a neglected abuse
- 2:45:39matter. Is that accurate?
- 2:45:41Or, your Honor, she doesn't want any of these things, but.
- 2:45:45Unfortunately, I understand. But that that's the election.
- 2:45:47That she's making, she is. She wants the opportunity to
- 2:45:50demonstrate to the court that she is not guilty of criminal.
- 2:45:52Behavior, Your Honor. OK, Miss Wolfram, have you
- 2:45:59received all the exhibits that Mister Velar has indicated?
- 2:46:04I have, yes, I believe so. The the attendance contracts and
- 2:46:07this I, I think he called them school reports.
- 2:46:09I'm not entirely sure, but I did receive all of the information
- 2:46:12that both Mr. Blair and Mr. Velar have indicated they've
- 2:46:15sent to me with from the school. OK.
- 2:46:20You have any witnesses for the defense?
- 2:46:24I, I, I believe at this point I had thought that she was going
- 2:46:29to be part of it, but I think perhaps Deputy Kefaber's
- 2:46:32testimony will be important regarding the days.
- 2:46:35And then I, I may have to call somebody from this school as
- 2:46:40well. And then Aaron Lord.
- 2:46:45And that's in reference to the truancy case, correct?
- 2:46:48Yes, because the counselor provided some of the excusal
- 2:46:52letters which will be an issue whether the I mean it's an issue
- 2:46:56whether the a day is excused or unexcused.
- 2:46:58And she provided those letters. So I would need her unless the
- 2:47:01unless Mr. Villar is stipulating because she did write a letter
- 2:47:05so she didn't have contact. If we can stipulate to the
- 2:47:07letter, I wouldn't need her. So any of your proposed
- 2:47:14exhibits, have they even provided?
- 2:47:16To the people. Yes.
- 2:47:19No. The letter from Aaron, that
- 2:47:22would be the letter from Aaron. I also provided homeschool
- 2:47:26records and I know we filed, we refiled the proof of service on
- 2:47:30that when the court couldn't locate it the other day.
- 2:47:32So my client also was homeschooling concurrently, so
- 2:47:36she provide we provided those records.
- 2:47:39The excuse, a letter from Miss Lord, from Amplified Life, and
- 2:47:44then I don't intend to offer it as an exhibit, but I did provide
- 2:47:48the transcript from the abuse and neglect proceeding where the
- 2:47:53matter of truancy was already testified to on the record.
- 2:48:31Well, I'm sitting here scrolling through, trying to find the next
- 2:48:34thing, and then all of a sudden, he cuts his feed.
- 2:48:37Oh, well, All right, Let's go back to Judge Stevens.
- 2:48:40He's back in court. Although he's muted, let's give
- 2:49:35him a minute, see if he fixes that.
- 2:49:40If they're working. Well, we're waiting on that.
- 2:49:42Let's get to something else. We can do ours.
- 2:49:44Go ahead. Mike's not here.
- 2:49:48Let's get here real quick. What are we doing?
- 2:49:52We have Zion Hartman doing hey, what?
- 2:49:55Are we going to do? What are we doing?
- 2:49:59She's. Called Harman.
- 2:50:04Yeah. It's all
- 2:50:29good. OK.
- 2:50:39Zion Harman, 24 CR 83, is called and there's a motion to revoke
- 2:50:49on adjudicated probation here. You'll hear with Mr. W, your
- 2:50:51attorney and the state's attorney.
- 2:50:55What are we? You had pleaded true earlier in
- 2:50:57March, on March 20th, so that's just the other day failing to
- 2:51:03report and bring himself in for state intermediate sanction
- 2:51:09facility as directed. Anyway, what are we doing, Your
- 2:51:13Honor? Since then, I believe he has
- 2:51:15done everything he's supposed to do, but I'll defer to this.
- 2:51:17Day and all that. Judge, it's my understanding
- 2:51:20that he was it was held in abeyance and he was ordered to
- 2:51:23go to ISF and I could defer to probation.
- 2:51:26But she does say that he he has been successful since in
- 2:51:31completing ISF and since completing ISF.
- 2:51:36What we do? If you want to, go ahead and.
- 2:51:40Miss it because he had been doing well.
- 2:51:42He's on probation right now for 24.
- 2:51:47Yes, Sir. OK.
- 2:51:48So this motion to revoke unadjudicated probation is send
- 2:51:51me something out. Yeah.
- 2:51:53Yeah. Keep my operation.
- 2:51:54That is all on April Francis, who's here on that from
- 2:52:07probation. April France.
- 2:52:11It's a review. Probation review.
- 2:52:14Nobody. Nobody at all.
- 2:52:17You know, she was here just. About to go here on it.
- 2:52:19She was here a minute ago. She's presumably stolen.
- 2:52:23Well, when who is it? OK well, they can hear what you
- 2:52:28have then I've got I've got Kevin Walker to deal with.
- 2:52:34But I'm going to get this other DeMarcus Meyer where we, yeah.
- 2:52:51He's the one. DeMarcus Meyer, we're going.
- 2:52:55To. Ask that he be released back on
- 2:52:57the probation. OK, who's here on that?
- 2:53:01That's the mistake. You released one.
- 2:53:08Thank you. No, I think.
- 2:53:09It was me. Not without a plan, Miss
- 2:53:10Belarus. I got My name is Lady Mike at
- 2:53:13probation. You come home with you.
- 2:53:16Sure. I'll stay there.
- 2:53:19I don't have. Any room.
- 2:53:34One up 234765 is called the Marcus Meyer.
- 2:53:38That's you. Is that you, Sir?
- 2:53:42OK. You were here with your
- 2:53:43attorney, Mr. Turk, and the state's attorney.
- 2:53:47What are we doing today? There's a first amended motion
- 2:53:49to revoke unattjudicated probation.
- 2:53:51Yes, Judge my understood. Well, yeah, original 1 was filed
- 2:53:54back to what are we going to do today asking that he be released
- 2:53:56back to his probation status. What we're going to do is no is
- 2:54:00he admitting to this or not? Then we're having a hearing.
- 2:54:04We're not going to do anything before that hearing.
- 2:54:06Yeah, well, except we're hearing.
- 2:54:09We have a hearing. Yeah.
- 2:54:10The the main thing is he's not following his spindle top plan.
- 2:54:14And before he's ever released anything, we need to make sure
- 2:54:16that he understands to take his medications.
- 2:54:18If when we get there, when we do the the hearing, we'll we'll,
- 2:54:21we'll determine what we're going to.
- 2:54:22Is this boring you, Sir? No, Sir.
- 2:54:26He's, he's frustrated. He's frustrated at all.
- 2:54:30I'm prepared for anything that's not coming my way.
- 2:54:33I'm living by my faith. Uh huh.
- 2:54:36Well, we. The important thing is you also
- 2:54:39live by the law as well. I do.
- 2:54:41I've been breaking out of these laws, I said.
- 2:54:42You're presumed in, so. OK, well, all right.
- 2:54:46What are we going to do today for you, Judge George?
- 2:54:48I'm going to have to get his medical records from Spin on
- 2:54:50top, so OK, We're not going to do it right now.
- 2:54:52No, Sir. Y'all are ready for hearing.
- 2:54:53Sir, I need to. Can you?
- 2:54:54Because it's just been in jail and we don't want records.
- 2:54:57And we're going to ask for a bond.
- 2:54:58Considering he's been largely compliant with his probation,
- 2:55:02when can you be ready for you? I don't have them as soon as
- 2:55:04they can give me a. Medical refugee.
- 2:55:05I don't I can't make Dick. There's the problem.
- 2:55:08The bonds going to be high because he's alleged to not
- 2:55:12participate. He's not actively participating
- 2:55:15in treatment. It's pneumatops, which is a key
- 2:55:17thing to everything. These are these are allegations
- 2:55:195 and 6. Yes Sir.
- 2:55:21My understanding is reason that the state filed this is because
- 2:55:23he was a purpose of interest in the case of his failed to
- 2:55:27actively participate in treatment.
- 2:55:29That allegation is that he didn't go to the treatment.
- 2:55:31He missed one appointment. It says on February 4th and
- 2:55:35February 19th. Yes.
- 2:55:37That's two appointments, isn't it?
- 2:55:40The next day, Judge. And I'm sorry, those important,
- 2:55:45they're necessary. Judge.
- 2:55:48He's been there every day. It's two times.
- 2:55:50Y'all ready? Taking his medication.
- 2:55:52I've been. Taking it at the jailhouse.
- 2:55:57OK, There's a, there's an issue, a fact issue.
- 2:56:00When can you be writing on business?
- 2:56:03What are we doing next week? How long would it take you to
- 2:56:11get those? But they're right.
- 2:56:12There aren't. They.
- 2:56:13Yes, they are Judgment I. Can't.
- 2:56:15I mean, I I can ask the state to subpoena them to maybe make it
- 2:56:17faster, but I don't dictate when they give me the record.
- 2:56:21How much time are you asking for?
- 2:56:22One month. I it's going to have.
- 2:56:24To be in late May. Sorry, hear it.
- 2:56:27I leave in two weeks and I will be gone for.
- 2:56:30April. All right, OK.
- 2:56:35If I get a bathroom. I'll let the court know that I
- 2:56:38don't know. When there was a.
- 2:56:39Synonym I'm asking that he'd be able to go back out from
- 2:56:42probation status and. Yes.
- 2:56:45All right, he's been largely compliant.
- 2:56:47He's bidding for it. He's he's compliant.
- 2:56:49These allegations are very disturbing.
- 2:56:50The treatment is and first of all, it's an assault by that was
- 2:56:56an assault. I'm sorry, what my understanding
- 2:56:59is the 1st and 5th allegations were abandoned.
- 2:57:01The second and third, possibly the 4th are the ones that held
- 2:57:04in the base to report from 2024. We found the reports and failed
- 2:57:09to immediately report the probation offices sort of and
- 2:57:12he's and he's been he was since sailing to participate or rehab
- 2:57:16Center for spindle conflict. OK and on the state who's on
- 2:57:19this one Mr. Laird on this he's saying that there are two of
- 2:57:24these allegations are to be abandoned.
- 2:57:26Is that why the 1st and 5th according to the notes I have
- 2:57:29and what's been given me were abandoned?
- 2:57:30That was that was in previous hearing that we had because
- 2:57:33we've had laundry plan before yes, so one and five are to be.
- 2:57:37Abandoned all going to be Jeopardy for the same time.
- 2:57:45That's what there were some notes on one of the previous
- 2:57:51hearings that you had where that was true.
- 2:57:54Judge, thank you notes. Mr. Turk showed me those notes
- 2:58:01earlier. It's OK.
- 2:58:05So I have on the original motion a plea approved is two and
- 2:58:13three, right? So one in four has been one
- 2:58:17because 5 is the first amended. Then the first amended rolls
- 2:58:20around on March 4th, one in four.
- 2:58:23So yes, 5 is five and six are the ones that were after six are
- 2:58:26just last month. We're up on this time.
- 2:58:28Good. Two times that.
- 2:58:29He's missed out of the week in attendance status.
- 2:58:31They're saying that one of those five and six, one of those
- 2:58:38doesn't have a basis that he's sorry.
- 2:58:40Abandoned this one of the. Clean up this judge.
- 2:58:42It was the first. Should.
- 2:58:43Have been 1:00 and 4:00. Because five and six we just
- 2:58:46filed. So we couldn't have abandoned.
- 2:58:47Those back in the last. Year OK by my mistake judging.
- 2:58:50My mistake. So he he failed to participate
- 2:58:54in treatment to spindle top on February 4th and February 19th,
- 2:58:58correct. How often does he go 2?
- 2:59:00Twice the follow. Ups are supposed to be every
- 2:59:02three months. Man.
- 2:59:04Every three months. I think he goes a day.
- 2:59:06What's this he? He failed to go on February 4th
- 2:59:08and then two weeks later. The fourth was a a an
- 2:59:11appointment and then they rescheduled it to the 19th and
- 2:59:14he missed that 19th, OK. OK, why'd you do that?
- 2:59:19I didn't miss the published guys.
- 2:59:20I don't know what happened over and Sir.
- 2:59:23I was over and got a over. She wasn't able to.
- 2:59:26Make it over. What time do you have to be
- 2:59:29there generally? Is he asking me?
- 2:59:32Yes, he's. Asking you that day.
- 2:59:34I thought it was like I think maybe 2?
- 2:59:36OK. Hold on, but the problem is not
- 2:59:40just dismissing just he's I don't believe he's taking his
- 2:59:42medications was the main problem and that's when he starts
- 2:59:45getting into well, that's part of the treatment plan.
- 2:59:48It says not following through the spindle tots active
- 2:59:50participate in treatment through he missed currently everybody
- 2:59:55he's just missed once, right, Essentially yes.
- 2:59:58What, so it's just as well essentially yes or no?
- 3:00:02He was late. Apparently, but I think he went
- 3:00:04back to try to do it the next day.
- 3:00:06But it's essential that when he misses those we know that he's
- 3:00:08not taking what he's supposed to be doing.
- 3:00:10Part of the reason I want to but it says failed to act with
- 3:00:13practitioner the treatment if it's one time, I mean two years
- 3:00:22if if how long has he been doing this when he.
- 3:00:26Was placed with me back on. April the 8th of 2025.
- 3:00:34A year, yes. OK, OK.
- 3:00:35How many treatments has he missed that just this one?
- 3:00:39Yes, because their spindle top system did go down because they
- 3:00:42were hacked. So at one point they were just
- 3:00:45trying to get everybody. They kept pushing everybody's
- 3:00:47appointments. Back.
- 3:00:48Oh, so I. Don't I don't know what actively
- 3:00:52participates means. He's also been told by his
- 3:00:54provider to have to verify we have still want to move forward
- 3:01:00on the motion. Yes, Sir.
- 3:01:02I OK, that's OK. I'm going to grant him some
- 3:01:06relief on a bomb. Yes, Sir.
- 3:01:08But you got to. We're going to.
- 3:01:09I'm going to let you. I'm going to release you.
- 3:01:14Can you pay attention to me, please, Sir?
- 3:01:16You know what it feels like when you don't seem to be interested?
- 3:01:20I'm just. And I'm doing my speaking here
- 3:01:22because I'm, I'm going to make orders of the court that you
- 3:01:25have to follow, that you're going to be held in custody.
- 3:01:27If you don't, then I just want to make sure that later on to
- 3:01:30go, I didn't hear you because I wasn't paying attention.
- 3:01:35I'm going to release you on a personal cognizance box.
- 3:01:39You have to follow all terms and conditions of probation, which
- 3:01:42includes this actively participating in the treatment
- 3:01:47through spindle top as required. All right, I'm going to reset
- 3:01:51this hearing though, in four weeks.
- 3:01:53OK, four weeks. I'll fill it with Bret's back.
- 3:01:56OK. Yeah.
- 3:01:57And we'll see where we are on all of this.
- 3:02:01But once again, a failure on probation, your probation can be
- 3:02:05revoked. You could be found guilty and
- 3:02:07sentenced up to 10 years in prison.
- 3:02:08You don't want that, right? I wouldn't.
- 3:02:11All right. Are you going to follow?
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- 3:03:44Let's let's go back to Judge. Term of not more than 20 years
- 3:03:49or less than two years in prison.
- 3:03:50In addition, finally be assessed not to exceed $10,000.
- 3:03:54Do you understand? Yes.
- 3:03:57Do you understand? Yes.
- 3:03:58An agreement's been reached. You would be pleading guilty,
- 3:04:02sentenced to four years in prison to run, confirmed with
- 3:04:04other cases. Is that your understanding?
- 3:04:07Yes. If I follow this, you have no
- 3:04:08right of appeal. Do you understand how do you
- 3:04:11plead to this? How do you plead to this guilty
- 3:04:14or not guilty? Are you pleading guilty
- 3:04:17voluntarily and because we are guilty show you what's marked
- 3:04:23Exhibit 1 here. Did you sign that voluntarily
- 3:04:26understand it, discuss it with your attorney.
- 3:04:28Is everything true and correct States Exhibit 1 hinders without
- 3:04:32objection admitted the states you're mentally competent to
- 3:04:35enter your guilty plea. It's freely and voluntarily made
- 3:04:38you know what you've been charged with the indictment with
- 3:04:40you branding if you were guilty of the crime charges and the
- 3:04:42name Blesser included offenses and you while giving up your
- 3:04:45rights to a jury trial. The rights to the appearance of
- 3:04:48consultation, cross examination of witnesses totally satisfied
- 3:04:51with the representation provided by the lawyer.
- 3:04:53All true so help you God. Brad states exhibit 1 presented
- 3:04:58and it is admitted into evidence without objection.
- 3:05:01Presentence report is away. I will follow the secret I'm
- 3:05:06going to find you of pleading guilty voluntarily.
- 3:05:08You are mentally competent to do that.
- 3:05:10You understand and appreciate the consequences of pleading
- 3:05:12guilty. There's sufficient evidence
- 3:05:16supporting your guilty plea from Stacy Exhibit 1 admitted here to
- 3:05:19find you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of this
- 3:05:21offense. I now find you guilty.
- 3:05:22You'll be segmented your felony of assault on a peace officer
- 3:05:28and I'm following this agreement.
- 3:05:30You were here by sentence to confinement in the insufficient
- 3:05:32division. Of the Texas Department.
- 3:05:34Of criminal justice to serve the permanent use in this case, you
- 3:05:38will be given status at all times you have served in
- 3:05:40accordance with this case. Do you understand what has
- 3:05:42happened today? That is all.
- 3:05:45Thank you. I have a a dismissal on Patrick
- 3:05:52Pittman, 2607. Mr. Ham is presented to us On
- 3:06:02this date. It is signed and granted.
- 3:06:13Yes, what are we? What are we doing?
- 3:06:23I think we're going to. Just I look back at Rule 104 and
- 3:06:27if as long as he sticks to financial, I cannot cross
- 3:06:29examine him on the offense unless he talks about the
- 3:06:32offense. OK, So what are we?
- 3:06:33I'm just going to ask a quick financial question that we can
- 3:06:36let you make the decision. Whatever it's going to be, it'll
- 3:06:38be super fast. And this is.
- 3:06:53The State of Texas has requested a review.
- 3:06:55Of yes, all right. All right.
- 3:06:58Did you? I'm not going to ask you
- 3:07:00anything about the facts of the case.
- 3:07:02Don't tell me nothing. About the facts of.
- 3:07:04The case, right, you got me. The only thing I'm asking you is
- 3:07:07a money question. That's it.
- 3:07:08You have to do with money. I can't say nothing about the
- 3:07:10case. You got me?
- 3:07:11Yes, Sir. All right, so.
- 3:07:13You understand that Judge de Lune, who initially set this
- 3:07:17bond, I think he said a $65,000 bond and 15 a $15,000 bond,
- 3:07:22right? All.
- 3:07:23Right. So if you go to a bail bonds,
- 3:07:25when they charge you 10%, that'll be 6500 and it's 1500,
- 3:07:30it would be a total of $8000, right?
- 3:07:33Right Now, do you have $8000 in any bank account anywhere?
- 3:07:37No, Sir. Do you have $8000 that you could
- 3:07:40borrow from anybody anywhere? No, Sir.
- 3:07:42Do you have $8000 worth of property that you could sell and
- 3:07:46and and make this bond $8000? Do you have that anywhere?
- 3:07:50At the time. That you went to jail?
- 3:07:54Did you have a minimum wage job working at church's fried
- 3:07:57chicken? So basically working at church's
- 3:08:00fried chicken minimum job, you would probably qualify for some
- 3:08:04kind of a federal financial aid or something, right?
- 3:08:07And then as far as a house, apartment, home.
- 3:08:10You don't own that. You live with your Mama, right?
- 3:08:13So as far as the bond being sufficient for you being able to
- 3:08:19appear in court, actually the judge could lower that bond from
- 3:08:2465,000 to a lower number because specifically under the.
- 3:08:29Rules. When the state of Texas asked
- 3:08:32for a bond review and the court pointed out in the prior
- 3:08:36hearing, the court could actually determine that the
- 3:08:38resisting bond is excessive. So based upon what I read in the
- 3:08:42court reporters notes, Judge Stevens can stated that $65,000
- 3:08:48bond is excessive because of your financial situation, is
- 3:08:53that right? So at the end of the day, I told
- 3:08:55you I wasn't going to ask you anything about the case, right?
- 3:08:58And I didn't ask you one thing about the case, right?
- 3:09:01But in terms of MONEY, $65,000 bond would be excessive for a
- 3:09:08man who doesn't have a job, he lives with his Mama, he has no
- 3:09:12property that could be sold. And I think, you know, I let ask
- 3:09:16for to take judicial notice. I think his age is. 20 what?
- 3:09:1920 what? 23 years old?
- 3:09:22So a 23 year old man? No job?
- 3:09:24No, when I when I say no job. You can't work at Church's
- 3:09:27Chicken if you're in jail. Right now, right?
- 3:09:29So you lost the church's chicken job, which is a minimum wage.
- 3:09:32Job. Right.
- 3:09:34And at Church's Chicken, you basically.
- 3:09:35Frying. Chicken and doing stuff like
- 3:09:37that that right. So are you asking the court to
- 3:09:40do what it can do, which is? Lower the 60. $5000 bond to
- 3:09:45let's say 10,000. He can lower it you.
- 3:09:50Understand that. Right.
- 3:09:52That's all. I actually, I told you I want to
- 3:09:53actually listen about the case. Anything to say not on the
- 3:09:56financial goods I find the anything else I find the bond
- 3:10:03the setting that the court made based upon his criminal history
- 3:10:07and the problem will cause affidavit the circumstances to
- 3:10:10be fair and appropriate under these circumstances and I denied
- 3:10:15the request and we will set this for.
- 3:10:19I don't think it's been indicted, so yeah, once it.
- 3:10:22I guess there's an. It's been.
- 3:10:23Received It's coming up. OK, when the indictment comes,
- 3:10:26we'll try to get a setting as soon as possible and then you
- 3:10:29can re submit your request. Thank you.
- 3:10:37Thank you. All right, let's go to Calvin
- 3:10:39Walker. Thank you.
- 3:10:43Morning, Judge. Hello, Sir.
- 3:10:45Thank you for waiting. Yes, Sir, I think it's bad.
- 3:10:52All right, it's. Something's on.
- 3:10:55Who's here from the state? Anybody.
- 3:10:57You're Mr. It's just like that. This is a review.
- 3:11:03This one comes from where of status.
- 3:11:06The court has received a report from Miss Hunter in this case on
- 3:11:16the status and. Can I bring them to the back of
- 3:11:19you on my? Thank you, Jeff.
- 3:11:24A report stating that the defendant is has limited income
- 3:11:31and as of today has paid $13,132.25 to restitution for
- 3:11:38the Beaumont Independence school districts.
- 3:11:41But over $1 million still remains to be paid on this
- 3:11:45restitution. And I want to ask how we doing
- 3:11:50on trying to raise our monthly installments.
- 3:11:58Is Mr. Walker able to pay more while while we are awaiting the
- 3:12:04appeal decision from the appellate court?
- 3:12:07Correct. Go ahead, judge.
- 3:12:11One thing, I don't know how we're going to do it, but he has
- 3:12:13not been credited for those properties.
- 3:12:15I don't guess that he signed his deeds for a couple months ago.
- 3:12:19Did you go out? I don't, but just I noticed that
- 3:12:23when I heard that amount, so I raised that.
- 3:12:26He's got another $1000 for this month's payment.
- 3:12:30He. Recently started working with
- 3:12:33one of the home contractor insurance companies and he
- 3:12:38actually got a couple jobs. I think it was Home Shield, but
- 3:12:41it might have been the other one we discussed Choice Home.
- 3:12:44Yes, Sir. It was one of those two, I
- 3:12:46forget which one, but then that's actually been interrupted
- 3:12:49a little bit. He's had some sort of heart
- 3:12:51issue going on. I believe Miss Hunter has
- 3:12:54documentation. Of.
- 3:12:56His doctor's name and appointments that he's got,
- 3:13:01they're not sure if it's it's not a heart attack, but they're
- 3:13:05basically doing stress tests on his heart and trying to figure
- 3:13:07out what's going on. Which is interrupted to work for
- 3:13:11a few weeks. Now, is or is Mr. Walker able to
- 3:13:17pay more than $1000 a month? That's not Not this month.
- 3:13:21No, that's for sure. What about next month?
- 3:13:26I couldn't tell you, Judge. OK.
- 3:13:30All right. I don't want to mislead the
- 3:13:32court in any way. As far as your statement he's
- 3:13:34going to be given, he will be allowed credit for all.
- 3:13:37Yes, Sir. It's allowed by law.
- 3:13:40And those properties, I'm not sure where they are in the
- 3:13:43process, but the order was met. Those properties are, are I
- 3:13:48think in the hands of the Beaumont Independence School
- 3:13:51District to do as they wish and he would be given credit for
- 3:13:55fair market value for them. But I'm concerned, Judge, fair
- 3:14:01market value minus what the tax liens were on it because there
- 3:14:03was a well, I've been told there was a substantial amount of tax
- 3:14:07liens that were levied against all the problems.
- 3:14:09When we say fair market value, of course you've got a net on a
- 3:14:13cost. Somebody's going to have to pay
- 3:14:16for those for those and and if it's because of Mr. Walker and
- 3:14:23then he's not going to get credited for that debt
- 3:14:27obligation, somebody else ends up paying on his behalf, not
- 3:14:31him. But can I make AI just want to
- 3:14:34make a brief statement, whatever it is we discussed three months
- 3:14:39ago, whenever we sign those deeds, that's what credit we
- 3:14:44would be asking for. And I don't want to get into all
- 3:14:46of it today because I don't quite frankly remember, but I
- 3:14:50think just under the notice provisions and everything that
- 3:14:53we have in our constitutions, whatever it is we discussed, we
- 3:14:56would just like it applied at some point.
- 3:14:57I, I it's hold on, but I'm just going to this courts.
- 3:15:03I'm not going to this courts spent a lot of research on this,
- 3:15:07but his indebtedness is not going to be an obligation that
- 3:15:13the victim should have to endure and pay for.
- 3:15:17It will be credited on the net amount of the value.
- 3:15:22That's that's all. I believe that's just an
- 3:15:28understanding of just an independent fairness.
- 3:15:31If there were indebtedness tax obligations, those were his.
- 3:15:37The victim has already been victimized by Mr. Walker by a
- 3:15:42jury decision. I'm not going to victimize him
- 3:15:45again, pay for his his indebtedness.
- 3:15:49That's just a statement and right.
- 3:15:52And I'm just, I'm trying to preserve, we're in murky waters
- 3:15:55here, you know, and I'm just trying to preserve that.
- 3:15:58We made an agreement with the court a few months ago and we're
- 3:16:01just asking that whatever that agreement was, it's on the
- 3:16:06record that he get that amount. That's all I'm saying.
- 3:16:11OK, I'm like, I wasn't part of that agreement and I and I.
- 3:16:16Didn't want to be. You know part of it, but when
- 3:16:19that agreement was said, there was an amount that was
- 3:16:21represented the court and the tax liens were not represented
- 3:16:24to the court. We didn't represent that.
- 3:16:27I'm sorry, but we didn't represent an amount though not
- 3:16:29incurring any ill will on your part.
- 3:16:32It I'm just saying it wasn't OK. That's not an issue that we need
- 3:16:35to address today. But there's just the the victims
- 3:16:41are not going to be re victimized.
- 3:16:43I'm fine with that. I just, I'm looking out for Mr.
- 3:16:46Walker today, today. What are the party, what
- 3:16:50additional information of the parties want to add and, and I
- 3:16:54would like to where is the appeal status on this or is all
- 3:16:58the briefing done and before the Court of Appeals?
- 3:17:02Yes, Judge. So Mr. Nealon submitted his
- 3:17:04brief, I think since the last time we were here and then I, I
- 3:17:08don't even think I got an extension.
- 3:17:09I filed our reply briefing timely.
- 3:17:12It was a pretty extensive brief from both parties.
- 3:17:16So it's in front of the court right now, right?
- 3:17:18We don't have any submission schedule yet, but everything is
- 3:17:21there for the court at this time.
- 3:17:23Judge, what state have to say? Anything else you want to add on
- 3:17:26this? Because once I'm still
- 3:17:29concerned, whenever Mr. Walker is able to pay a dime more than
- 3:17:38what he's paying right now, I want to be able to get that
- 3:17:43accomplished. Yes, Sir.
- 3:17:45All right. And the defense right now is
- 3:17:47submitting the $1000 as of today is all he can continue to pay
- 3:17:53per month. Basically he's going to go pay
- 3:17:57his monthly $1000 today. He was put back so he he'll be
- 3:18:01up today, today so that that all right, that will be done today,
- 3:18:06Sir. All right, what else?
- 3:18:09Stay nothing for us. We're in recess on this.
- 3:18:12Thank you and awaiting an appeal decision.
- 3:18:15Thank you, Judge. Thank you.
- 3:18:19OK, folks, let's go. Let's go back to Judge Elmore.
- 3:18:23We got a new contestant there. I have a seat, Miss Erickson.
- 3:18:26Miss Erickson I felony information with four counts and
- 3:18:40some sentencing enhancements. I'm going to go over those and
- 3:18:44while I do so, I'll also tell you what I understand to be the
- 3:18:47terms of your pretrial agreement.
- 3:18:50Count 1 is a charge of possession of the controlled
- 3:18:52substance methamphetamine. That's a felony plentiful by up
- 3:18:57to 10 years and or up to $15,000.
- 3:19:03There's also a second or subsequent drug offender
- 3:19:06enhancement. That means that if you were
- 3:19:08found guilty of that offense with the enhancement, the court
- 3:19:13could increase that punishment within its discretion from up to
- 3:19:1710 years to up to 20 years and from up to 15,000 up to $30,000.
- 3:19:22However, Count 1 and its enhancement will be dismissed.
- 3:19:27Count 2 is a charge of possession of the controlled
- 3:19:30substance cocaine in an amount less than 25 grams.
- 3:19:35That's a felony punch will buy up to four years and up to
- 3:19:39$2000. There's also a second or
- 3:19:42subsequent drug offender enhancement that could, within
- 3:19:45the discretion of the court, allow it to increase the maximum
- 3:19:49punishment from up to four years to up to 8 years and from up to
- 3:19:5225,000 up to $50,000. However, I'm told today that if
- 3:19:57you plead guilty to that count and I accept that for you, the
- 3:20:01prosecutor will dismiss the enhancement, which means it'll
- 3:20:04be a felony plentiful by up to four years and or up to $25,000.
- 3:20:10Count 3 is a charge of the offense possession of the
- 3:20:14controlled substance fentanyl. Again, like cocaine, that's a
- 3:20:18felony punishable by up to four years and up to $25,000.
- 3:20:23And because of the second or subsequent drug enhancement that
- 3:20:26could, within the discretion of the court, allow the court to
- 3:20:29increase the maximum punishment from up to four to up to 8
- 3:20:32years, from up to 25,000, up to 15,000 or $50,000.
- 3:20:38However, if you plead guilty to that count 3 and I accept that
- 3:20:41plea, you'll the prosecutor will dismiss the enhancement, which
- 3:20:45means you'll just face the maximum punishment of up to four
- 3:20:49years and or up to $25,000. Then for count 4, this is a
- 3:20:53charge of maintaining a drug house that is a High Court
- 3:21:00misdemeanor punch will buy up to two years and or up to $25,000
- 3:21:05plus because of the second or subsequent drug enhancement that
- 3:21:08could be increased from up to two to up to four years and
- 3:21:11brought up to 25,000 to up to $50,000.
- 3:21:15However, if you enter a plea of guilty to count 4 and I accept
- 3:21:18that plea, the prosecutor will dismiss the enhancement.
- 3:21:22Therefore, you'll be sentenced as to a High Court misdemeanor
- 3:21:26possible by up to two years and or up to $2000.
- 3:21:30Is that what you understood so far to be the terms of your
- 3:21:32agreement? I have here presented to you by
- 3:21:36the attorneys of form and I'm going to hold it up.
- 3:21:39For you. At the top it says plea
- 3:21:41agreement and this is where they wrote it all out.
- 3:21:44And on page 2, it appears to have the signatures of the
- 3:21:47lawyers and your signature. That's your signature there on
- 3:21:51the left. Yes, you.
- 3:21:53Are and did you go over this pretrial agreement before you
- 3:21:55sign it? Yes, you are.
- 3:21:57And did you speak to your defense attorney, Mr. Harrison,
- 3:21:59about it? Yes.
- 3:22:01Did he talk to you about that? Did he talk to you about the
- 3:22:04evidence against you? Yes, you are.
- 3:22:06And talk about your rights and your choices and the possible
- 3:22:10consequences of either going to trial, taking a plea or
- 3:22:13whatever? Yes, Sir.
- 3:22:14And my key question here is just to make sure, are you satisfied
- 3:22:19with his advice and representation at this time?
- 3:22:22And do you feel right now that at least taking his plea, well,
- 3:22:25maybe not the greatest thing to do in the world, but it's in
- 3:22:29your best interest. Now when you put your name or
- 3:22:33signature on that page 2, did you do so freely?
- 3:22:36No, only involved. And did anybody force you to put
- 3:22:39it on there? Oh, if you enter a plea of
- 3:22:43guilty, as we discussed, and I accept that plea, you'll not
- 3:22:46have a trial. Does that make sense, Miss
- 3:22:48Erickson? Yes, you.
- 3:22:49Are now if you enter that plea, you'll be waiving certain rights
- 3:22:52that you would otherwise have. Now these are covered on a piece
- 3:22:55of paper called an advisor rights and I'm holding that up
- 3:22:58for you right now. Is that your signature at the
- 3:23:01bottom? Did you read through these
- 3:23:03rights before signing? Did you understand what you
- 3:23:06read? Yes, Sir.
- 3:23:08And even more importantly, to understand that if you enter or
- 3:23:10plead guilty today, and I accept that plea, you will be forever
- 3:23:14waiving these rights as it applies to this particular case.
- 3:23:17Yes, you. Are Additionally, you'll be
- 3:23:20given up the right to claim that the plea was a result of any
- 3:23:22promise, threat, or inducement. Not holding me on the record
- 3:23:25today. Have there been any other
- 3:23:28promises, threats, inducements, force, pressure, anything,
- 3:23:34therefore, the plea realm free choice.
- 3:23:37Now, Mr. Harrison's probably talked to you about potential
- 3:23:40sentencing, is that correct? We may have talked to you about
- 3:23:44something called the sentencing guidelines that only applied in
- 3:23:47High Court, misdemeanors and felons.
- 3:23:49Did you do that? All right, now, first of all, I
- 3:23:52want to make sure you understand that the sentencing guidelines
- 3:23:54in Michigan are not mandatory, but they are a tool the court
- 3:23:57must use to help establish a fair, reasonable, proportionate
- 3:24:02sentence. Has anyone made any promises to
- 3:24:06you as to exactly what the sentence would be from this
- 3:24:08court? Do you have any questions about
- 3:24:12your rights, the charges and the plea before I take the plea?
- 3:24:15No. Yeah.
- 3:24:18All right. Ask to count 2 possessions of
- 3:24:23full substance, cocaine. How do you plea ask to count 3,
- 3:24:28possession of the controlled substance fentanyl.
- 3:24:31How do you plea ask to count 4 maintained in a drug house or
- 3:24:35dwelling? How do you plea before the court
- 3:24:39can accept those 3 pleas and have you tell me what it is that
- 3:24:42you did that makes you guilty of those 3 offenses?
- 3:24:45Turn your attention to May 2nd, I'm sorry, February 2nd and
- 3:24:492026, just a little over a month ago and music here in Westford
- 3:24:54County. What happened?
- 3:24:57Looks like you actually live in Thompsonville, is that right?
- 3:25:00And what were you? What happened in Mesick?
- 3:25:03Well I am in the process of moving to Mesick and I rent A
- 3:25:10room there with my aunt who has mobility issues and.
- 3:25:16I'm just trying to get my life. Together and I kind of fell off
- 3:25:19in the last couple months and I completely understand where I
- 3:25:23went wrong. So how'd you get caught with
- 3:25:26this stuff? I did sell to sell to an
- 3:25:32undercover. All.
- 3:25:33Right. So and you gave to this person
- 3:25:36or delivered to this person some substance?
- 3:25:38What was that cocaine? And and.
- 3:25:41Fentanyl, yeah. And fentanyl, all right, now,
- 3:25:45when you did that, did you know that you had possessed cocaine?
- 3:25:48Yes, you are. Did you also know that the other
- 3:25:51substance that you possessed was fentanyl?
- 3:25:53Yes, you are. Did you have any lawful
- 3:25:55prescription to possess that fentanyl and did you have any
- 3:26:00other lawful right to possess the cocaine?
- 3:26:03No. You.
- 3:26:05Had it and bleach. You knew you knew what the
- 3:26:10substances were. Yes, you.
- 3:26:12Are. And then So what about this out
- 3:26:20for did this happen, this delivery or whatever happened at
- 3:26:24that residence up in Mesa? Yes, your Honor.
- 3:26:26So in other words, for it to occur there, you also had to
- 3:26:29store this, the substances there and then delivered them there,
- 3:26:32is that correct? Yes.
- 3:26:34OK. All right.
- 3:26:39Miss Dahl, do you believe the defense provided on a factual
- 3:26:41basis? Are you aware of any of the
- 3:26:44promises through inducements? No.
- 3:26:45Your Honor. You'll leave the court's
- 3:26:47compliance for all 6.302 Yes, Sir.
- 3:26:51Mr. Harrison, do you agree? I.
- 3:26:53Do. Sir.
- 3:26:54All right. The Court agrees and finds the
- 3:26:56defendant plea today is made freely, knowingly and
- 3:26:59voluntarily. The Court further finds that the
- 3:27:02testimony provided by the defendant Underoath on the
- 3:27:05record satisfies the elements to support the convictions has to
- 3:27:11Count 2-3 and four for which he is now found guilty, Count 1 and
- 3:27:17then a second or subsequent drug offender enhancements will be
- 3:27:21dismissed at the time of sentencing.
- 3:27:23Miss Erickson. We will be back here in about
- 3:27:25four, maybe five weeks from this coming Monday.
- 3:27:28We do sentencing every Monday in this courtroom Any time
- 3:27:32someone's convicted of a felony in a state court here in
- 3:27:35Michigan, there must be a pre sentence investigation report
- 3:27:39prepared by an agent in the Michigan Department of
- 3:27:41Corrections, which is also a long title for the probation of
- 3:27:45prologue. This report will include a
- 3:27:48description of the offense, description of the pretrial
- 3:27:50agreement, any statements, information you make to provide
- 3:27:54while it's being prepared and you got to give them one of
- 3:27:57those voltage run a score of the guidelines which again are not
- 3:28:04mandatory. It will have a recommendation.
- 3:28:06This is a sentence. Please keep in mind it is merely
- 3:28:08a recommendation as a desire alone that will determine the
- 3:28:12sentence. There are three steps and
- 3:28:15involve you in the preparation of this report.
- 3:28:17Number one, you're going to get a packet.
- 3:28:19Samantha's giving it to Deputy Longstreet and he'll give it to
- 3:28:24you and they'll fill it out, turn it back in.
- 3:28:26You want to be as thorough as you can about the contents of
- 3:28:30that. For instance, it'll talk.
- 3:28:31People will say, well, I've suffered bipolar disorder or
- 3:28:34whatever, but I'll look on one of the pages and there will
- 3:28:38nothing about it. Then I'll go.
- 3:28:40Well, how do you suffer from whether you've ever been
- 3:28:42diagnosed blah blah blah. So anyways, make sure you're
- 3:28:46thorough. Next, you'll be subject to an
- 3:28:48interview in the that office and you have the right to have Mr.
- 3:28:50Harrison present during that interview.
- 3:28:53And 3rd, Mr. Harrison will come go over that, the contents of
- 3:28:57that report with you prior to coming back for sentencing.
- 3:29:02Each side has the right to come back to the court, request
- 3:29:05corrections or make objections for contents and scoring and so
- 3:29:08forth. Do you have any questions about
- 3:29:12our, what we've done today? No, you're on it.
- 3:29:14Do you have any questions about what's going to happen over the
- 3:29:16next month while you prepare this packet?
- 3:29:18All that no. You're.
- 3:29:20On it. All right, Miss Dull.
- 3:29:22Anything further? No.
- 3:29:23You're right. Mr. Harrison.
- 3:29:27I have nothing further your other thank.
- 3:29:28You based upon the fact that the defendant has now been convicted
- 3:29:32of the three felonies. The port of revoked bond were
- 3:29:36managed into custody of the Westford County Jail and we'll
- 3:29:40see you in about 485 weeks along this general thank you merger.
- 3:29:48Okie dokie friends, that is that time on a Friday where we go to
- 3:29:52that special little court where justice is done Appalachian
- 3:29:58style, in a dank dark basement with Crimson shining red carpet
- 3:30:06lights from the Soviet era. A phone that wants to ring for
- 3:30:10some reason that I just put on mute.
- 3:30:13A printer that never stops running.
- 3:30:15The screams of the undead from the background walls that I
- 3:30:19swear to God are bleeding, the eternal chair of doom, You name
- 3:30:23it, it is all there except for Judge Capper.
- 3:30:26This morning we have a substitute judge.
- 3:30:28But be that as it may, we press onward.
- 3:30:31Ladies and gentlemen, our guilty pleasure I give you Dungeon
- 3:30:34Court. Judge, this is a, I believe, a
- 3:30:50menacing charge, but there's also a TRC that I wasn't aware
- 3:30:54of. I got the paper discovery today
- 3:30:56from the prosecutor. I do need to file formal
- 3:30:58discovery in the body Cam, dash Cam video.
- 3:31:01If we could come back maybe 3 weeks.
- 3:31:08I know the bad dates in April are the 20th, 23rd, 27th, about
- 3:31:12April 17th. That would work.
- 3:31:14Is that good for you? That's fine, Jeff.
- 3:31:17All right, I'm sending the request this matter.
- 3:31:19We continue till April 17th. For pre trial in office.
- 3:31:33State. Of Ohio versus Thomas Mark Baker
- 3:31:36case number CRB 25 24747 Thomas Mark that is one of Mr. Styers
- 3:31:50cases that on the pretrial doc and I presumptively moved it's
- 3:31:53April. 10th but I. I wouldn't know if I saw him, so
- 3:31:56I guess he's not here. I know you'd left a.
- 3:32:02Copy of the answer but secure. I did Judge and the other two
- 3:32:05that he had for pretrial got their copies and left, but I've.
- 3:32:08Not seen this. Fellow possibly hold it to the
- 3:32:15end of the dock in case he shows up late.
- 3:32:16I don't know. How you want to handle it, but
- 3:32:20I'll help. Mr. Steyer Anyway I could pass
- 3:32:23this a little later in the dock. And I will.
- 3:32:27Look and see if I can't get a contact number, try to tell him
- 3:32:29to get down here, I'll see what I can do with that State of Ohio
- 3:32:40versus Hunterdale, Blythe says. Number TRC 26300 ADMC.
- 3:32:50That's just the state of Ohio, A. 100 Black PRC 26300 MC Mr.
- 3:32:56Black for. This attorney of distraction.
- 3:32:5875. Yes your honor, we pre tried
- 3:33:04this. This is a no test.
- 3:33:08There was AI believe a crash in this incident.
- 3:33:12We still need we'll. Probably just set it for another
- 3:33:16pretrial. We don't have a resolution of it
- 3:33:18at. The moment.
- 3:33:19How about April 17th? April 17th is fine.
- 3:33:26April. 17th. Retrial, you said.
- 3:33:32Right. Pretrial.
- 3:33:34Yeah, yeah.
- 3:33:55State of Ohio we have. Cornwell, PRC 251820. 3 CRD
- 3:34:0025473. CRD 2544.
- 3:34:04Four, that's Cornwell Charity for a Chinese.
- 3:34:06That's there's the draft of the treatment minor sets.
- 3:34:29Just assessment for it and whatever they and follow
- 3:34:33whatever they let you. Know your owner.
- 3:34:40We are going to plead note contest to the ODI.
- 3:34:43We're going to put off sentencing.
- 3:34:49She's going to get an assessment done and follow the
- 3:34:52recommendations of the assessment and.
- 3:34:54Go back. OK.
- 3:34:58And then depending on that, that's going to impact
- 3:35:02sentencing and also understand the state's going to dismiss the
- 3:35:05other charges if she does well on.
- 3:35:08That. That is correct, Your Honor.
- 3:35:12And we did get the year results. Back.
- 3:35:16The. Alcohol urine test was .21. 9.
- 3:35:20And also I hadn't seen this, but we also got under the the drug
- 3:35:26urine screen back and. And it was.
- 3:35:29Point or excuse me, 101.82 nanograms from milliliter of THC
- 3:35:35metabolite. So she had also buprenorphine
- 3:35:40and gabapentin. So those are the results on that
- 3:35:45and we're happy that she's decided she wants to do a
- 3:35:47treatment, take care of whatever problem she has.
- 3:35:50She's got the pending endangering charge which we will
- 3:35:53hold in a Vance and not go forward with with.
- 3:35:57As long as she. Keeps up with her treatment.
- 3:35:59It does well. And we'll dismiss that at a
- 3:36:01later. Time.
- 3:36:02And this will also impact what the sentencing recommendation
- 3:36:05will be certainly better she does the this is the first
- 3:36:08offence less the sentence will be so is.
- 3:36:13That correct? Cornwall.
- 3:36:15Yes. You want an Internet contact for
- 3:36:17me? Yes.
- 3:36:19Accept your no contest plea. Is there a stipulation for a
- 3:36:22guilty finding? Yeah.
- 3:36:23So we're statement of fact stipulation of guilt.
- 3:36:26In fact, I'll find you stipulating for a guilty finding
- 3:36:29in the matter. Is there someone there that
- 3:36:31would like to do an assessment on this?
- 3:36:33Cornwell, I see Taylor's better end up right here in the black
- 3:36:36and red. We don't necessarily need to
- 3:36:38have her back out after after the assessment because we're not
- 3:36:43doing sentencing today. So if you need to set that up at
- 3:36:47a later date, that's fine. So Mr. Stratford When would you
- 3:36:53want to come back? Your honor, maybe sometime first
- 3:36:57part of May best any dates have May 11th, about May the 8th, May
- 3:37:05the 8th to work. Plus.
- 3:37:09Sign of the set for May the 8th Pretrial.
- 3:37:16Good job and pretrial assessment.
- 3:37:48Good. We haven't called this year.
- 3:37:52This is statewide critical. Justice.
- 3:37:55TLC 26203 AMD this justice is here if.
- 3:38:01They're trying to. Subscribe.
- 3:38:01Is that what we? Published 2 copies.
- 3:38:45Interveningly, we're going to recall TRC 242473ABC ND Stable
- 3:38:51Highway Thomas Farberry. We previously indicated that
- 3:38:54there was a $5000 cashier's bomb posted with our cord.
- 3:38:59It's posted in common. Please.
- 3:39:01And so I will convert that to a 5000 OR bomb in this matter.
- 3:39:15Thank you. All right.
- 3:39:24We approach it on. You may.
- 3:40:25None. All right, we're back on the
- 3:40:37record 16 ARC. 20. 3A and. B State of Ohio.
- 3:40:45Versus fiscal Justice just had a finished conference with the
- 3:40:51state's. Your Honor, having reviewed the
- 3:40:56facts of this case, we were alerted early on that maybe
- 3:40:59there was some legitimate reasons why the field sobriety
- 3:41:02test should not be given the weight that they might
- 3:41:07otherwise. And so we've received some
- 3:41:10records today that convince us that they probably aren't an
- 3:41:15accurate assessment of her fiscal condition at that time.
- 3:41:18As far as impairment, we also had no chemical test, no urine
- 3:41:24test, no breath test. And there was no erratic.
- 3:41:27Driving. The reason for the stop was a
- 3:41:29headlight out so under the circumstances.
- 3:41:33I think it's. Appropriate for us to dismiss
- 3:41:35the OVI case if she would plead guilty to the headlight.
- 3:41:39And. We would take no.
- 3:41:40Position on the sanctions on that, Your Honor, we agree we'll
- 3:41:45plead guilty to the headlight charge and the OVI will be
- 3:41:49dismissed. All right.
- 3:41:51The A case will be now in the station, plus on the B case
- 3:41:59it'll be a $50 fine and all already paid for costs.
- 3:42:04There'll be a review here and set on it for September 25th of
- 3:42:09this year at 9:00 AM. If it's paid off by then you
- 3:42:12won't be happy to appear and there'll be no probation, can
- 3:42:16you? Give it over there and talk a
- 3:42:20little bit about the museum all right now.
- 3:42:3720. 6. 123. CR BU261. 103 there's five
- 3:42:52security property. Mr. Stratton Corey Fry is the
- 3:42:58code of Who's the Attorney? There's a stroll for.
- 3:43:04Mr. Moore, Cory Fry at number CRB 26 three, 120. 2.
- 3:43:11CRB 24783. All right.
- 3:43:16Also no, it's. No fine.
- 3:43:45There'll be court calls. I don't know.
- 3:43:55Community service was suspended. I don't.
- 3:44:14Know, I think I'm going to take a position on that, OK.
- 3:44:35Your Honor, I think we'll. Plead guilty to to the theft.
- 3:44:41Ask for suspended time. Of course also ask for no fine
- 3:44:50or community service. We'll pay the calls.
- 3:44:53I understand the court does typically do that, but we'll ask
- 3:44:57for that anyway. So all right.
- 3:45:00Miss ISIL, is your intention to enter guilty plea for the charge
- 3:45:05today? Yes, sure.
- 3:45:05All right. I'll accept your guilty plea and
- 3:45:09I'll enter guilty finding there'll be $150.00 fine.
- 3:45:15I'll already pay the court costs 10 days jail.
- 3:45:22I'll suspend all 10 days to 30 hours community service, be two
- 3:45:31years level for probation, and I know where to stay out of all
- 3:45:36Walmart. And as part of your probation,
- 3:45:56I'm going to order that you get an AOD assessment and follow up
- 3:46:00with any treatment that is recommended.
- 3:46:03And we'll need to set that up today if there's someone that
- 3:46:05would like to set her up with an assessment.
- 3:46:07Today. See the lady in the back of.
- 3:46:10Her hand. You're going.
- 3:46:12To need to need recurring probation before you.
- 3:46:14Leave you're. Going to have a review hearing.
- 3:46:17And that's going to be. September 25th of twenty 26th at
- 3:46:219:00 AM. If you fail to hear from that,
- 3:46:27there'll be a warrant issue if you have everything taken care
- 3:46:31of and everything's paid off and the community service is done
- 3:46:35and your treatment is completed if there isn't.
- 3:46:38And that you? Won't need to appear for that
- 3:46:41hearing, but otherwise you have to be here that day of the time.
- 3:46:43Do you understand? I understand your order.
- 3:46:45OK. So let's do a little.
- 3:46:49Provision. OK, talk to Mr. Major.
- 3:46:53OK, OK, let's have a question. All right, and.
- 3:46:56Mr. Morris. I'd like to ask you for short
- 3:47:07continuance. We have videos that Mister Pry
- 3:47:10wants to come in and watch, and we really need to have a
- 3:47:15conference outside the time to find the this morning.
- 3:47:20How? About April 27th.
- 3:47:30That's good here, Judge. As a matter.
- 3:47:34We continue to April 27th and that'll be a pretrial obtaining
- 3:47:53table hot versus Francisco Gonzalez.
- 3:47:55Which one for JRB 2697 CRA 26 to 1?
- 3:48:00100. Just the state of Ohio versus
- 3:48:05Francisco Gonzalez. CRA 26. 97.
- 3:48:09CRA 26100. Yes.
- 3:48:18Sir, did you say preliminary here, except there's a CRA 26100
- 3:48:27case that might be the extradition, is that possible?
- 3:48:31That is correct. Which has been taken care of.
- 3:48:35We are here today. For a pretrial conference
- 3:48:37through discussions with. The state of.
- 3:48:39Ohio, I believe. We have an agreement to plead as
- 3:48:42charged and then the recommendation from the state of
- 3:48:46Ohio would be just credit for time served.
- 3:48:49The defendant is a Georgia resident who has no intention of
- 3:48:53returning to that's. Correct.
- 3:48:57You're all I think you did some time to.
- 3:48:59Jail. Yes, three days, three days to
- 3:49:02jail. Yes, Sir.
- 3:49:02Is that that correctly for that knowledge?
- 3:49:09Yes, Your Honor, what, what plea was your motion to enter?
- 3:49:13Guilty of. Accept your guilty.
- 3:49:15Plea and I don't be finding. Oh, we also have.
- 3:49:22An order, hopefully. To kind of.
- 3:49:25Get received. Oh, we have no claim.
- 3:49:29We'll do three. I'll do three days jail.
- 3:49:38I'll give him credit for three days on this.
- 3:49:41And we're just going to complete this case since he's not.
- 3:49:47So we've been fine in court costs on it.
- 3:49:49Thank you, Judge. And we want an order of
- 3:49:51forfeiting funds that weren't confiscating itself.
- 3:49:55All right. And any.
- 3:49:56For the funds it. Was a.
- 3:49:59Number of cell phones, yes, we have no interest or claim and
- 3:50:06then there'll be an order that anything.
- 3:50:07Ceased as. A result of.
- 3:50:09This case should be fulfilled, Mr. Hilt.
- 3:50:17What about his personal self? What do they have?
- 3:50:21Well, they took. The contraband, which was all
- 3:50:24brand new ones. But he's.
- 3:50:26Had a personal. Use you know.
- 3:50:30For himself. Well.
- 3:50:35I'll tell you what we're. Going to have to do we're.
- 3:50:36Going to have. To call our.
- 3:50:37People and make sure that there's no I don't think there's
- 3:50:39going to be a problem with voicing his own phone to.
- 3:50:42Him, but we're going to need to. Make a phone call to find out.
- 3:50:46We'll. Have that back out.
- 3:50:47We'll have give us just a couple minutes Mr. Nash we will have
- 3:50:52them back out, but typically on some compelling reason his
- 3:50:58personal. Self.
- 3:51:04Which, if we could, I don't know.
- 3:51:06I mean we. Could proceed and and then if.
- 3:51:09There's an entry that we put on later.
- 3:51:11That's fine. We're going to go ahead and put
- 3:51:15the entry. On now.
- 3:51:16OK, just. See if we can get.
- 3:51:20Him on the. Investigator on.
- 3:51:21The. Phone.
- 3:51:21OK. Yeah, just in case on the
- 3:51:27expedition matter states intentions there, I think Mr.
- 3:51:31Nash indicated it's cleared up, but.
- 3:51:37We don't take. Any position?
- 3:51:38On it your. Honor if he's.
- 3:51:40It was AI believe it was a warrant out of Georgia on a
- 3:51:43probation matter and the probation department's dropped
- 3:51:46that. And I think all that
- 3:51:48documentation is in the file. OK, I see the petition.
- 3:51:55Yeah. All right.
- 3:51:56So the extradition matter. CRA 26 one. 100.
- 3:51:59Will be this Yes, thank you. And we'll recall that here just
- 3:52:03a few minutes. OK, thank you.
- 3:52:14State of Ohio versus Justin Brewing Test number of CRV 2662
- 3:52:20Mr. Moore from No Excuse me, this is State of Ohio.
- 3:52:28This is Justin Brewing S26 60 2 Mr. Brewing.
- 3:52:37Is the opportunity to hire an attorney.
- 3:52:41No, Sir. I have not.
- 3:52:43I have discussed some options with my sister who who's
- 3:52:47familiar with the couple and to be honest, my work I do
- 3:52:52exteriors of of homes. It's kind of weather dependent.
- 3:52:57I don't live with my parents or anything.
- 3:52:59I I'm a single income home. I've had some outrageous power
- 3:53:04bills and it's just I'm kind of paycheck to paycheck right now.
- 3:53:08Well, now that you've. Had an opportunity.
- 3:53:11To have to hire. So I'll appoint Mr. Morford to
- 3:53:18represent you. Yeah.
- 3:53:23Thank you. Thanks.
- 3:53:29All right, well. Mr. Morpher, you're just getting
- 3:53:31involved. In in case, I'm presuming you're
- 3:53:33going to want an. Opportunity.
- 3:53:35To file discovery. And take a look at those things.
- 3:53:38Is that correct? Absolutely all.
- 3:53:42Right, let's. Do.
- 3:53:44April. 17th. That'll be a pretrial team.
- 3:54:02Thank. You Kayla Thompson, 24/7. 92.
- 3:54:12Okie dokie friends, that brings it to an end for today and for
- 3:54:15the week, but I hope you all had fun.
- 3:54:17I know I did. It's always an honor to spend my
- 3:54:20mornings with all of you, so I appreciate it so much.
- 3:54:22And thank you all for hitting the Super chat goal today and
- 3:54:25for all the new memberships that were donated and everything
- 3:54:28else. Generosity is great.
- 3:54:30I really appreciate it and we earned the right to have our our
- 3:54:34pet or plant. If you don't have pets slideshow
- 3:54:38during the 4th hour on Monday. So again, send me your pet
- 3:54:41photos YT at courtroomfiles.com. Please do it as soon as you can,
- 3:54:47cause Sunday night'll be when I put this together.
- 3:54:50Make sure that you include your name and the names of your pets
- 3:54:54or plants or whatever you send to me and we will make sure to
- 3:54:57show those off in the fourth hour to everybody.
- 3:55:00So again, thanks so much. I appreciate all of you.
- 3:55:02Go have yourselves a good rest of your Friday and a good
- 3:55:04weekend and I look forward to seeing you all on Monday.
- 3:55:06Take care, God bless.