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Republicans Nonexistent Healthcare Plan | Money Will ‘Disappear’ · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listen Saints kfi AM six forty the bill handles
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  Speaker 2: Ff AM six forty bill handle. Here it is a day, Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: December seventeenth, and the stories we're looking at. Nick Reiner,
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  Speaker 2: the son of Rob and Michelle Reiner, who was arrested,
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  Speaker 2: has now been charged with first degree murder of his parents,
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  Speaker 2: and we're getting information on what happened the night before.
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  Speaker 2: The three of them were at a party at Conan
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  Speaker 2: O'Brien's house actually, and when an altercation broke out and
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  Speaker 2: the parents went home with.
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  Speaker 3: Nick and that's when the.
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  Speaker 2: Murder took place or allegedly, Yeah, I always have to
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  Speaker 2: say allegedly. Now, at the end of the year, and
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  Speaker 2: we're only what two weeks out, those of you who
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  Speaker 2: are on Obamacare and have the subsidies that make O
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  Speaker 2: make health care affordable or more affordable, well, those subsidies
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  Speaker 2: end because when they were passed during the Biden COVID period,
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  Speaker 2: the subsidies were necessary and people needed simply needed them
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  Speaker 2: for medical care. Well, they sunseted, and they sunset on
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  Speaker 2: December thirty one. Now, an argument before between those who
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  Speaker 2: advocate the extension of the subsidies and those that won't.
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  Speaker 2: The argument is that they were designed to end. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things about subsidies, and one of those
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  Speaker 2: things about sunseted laws or sunset laws, is they don't.
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  Speaker 2: Laws are passed and they continue on and on. Benefits
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  Speaker 2: just continue on. I can think of a dozen of them.
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  Speaker 2: There was one helping kids and teachers that was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to sunset and boom, it went on and on. So
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  Speaker 2: what's happening with this, Well, the Republicans are going to
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  Speaker 2: get hit big time. And here's why they have been
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  Speaker 2: fighting Obamacare and have passed bills and filed lawsuits probably
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  Speaker 2: sixty some time, a sixty something times to kill Obamacare.
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  Speaker 2: Argument is Obamacare is a disaster. Obamacare is the worst
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  Speaker 2: thing that ever happened to the United States. And we
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  Speaker 2: have a better plan. Okay, what's the plan. Well, we
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  Speaker 2: have a better plan. Okay, why don't we hear it?
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  Speaker 2: We have a better plan. The president day one, actually
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  Speaker 2: he ran on a part of his platform was I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to have a plan for healthcare within two weeks
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  Speaker 2: of my inauguration, and then two weeks later, it'll be
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  Speaker 2: two more weeks, and then in a few weeks.
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  Speaker 3: This has been going on for eight years.
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  Speaker 2: While Obamacare is being attacked and there's a lot wrong
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  Speaker 2: with Obamacare, it is at least this is what the
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  Speaker 2: argument is. At least people have some sort of coverage.
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  Speaker 2: And as Obamacare ends or the subsidies end, there'll be
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  Speaker 2: tens of millions of people who will either not be
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  Speaker 2: able to have any or will not be able to
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  Speaker 2: afford any insurance. And all of a sudden, the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: are just scrambling we need and the plans they've come
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  Speaker 2: up are ridiculous. We're gonna give you one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna have your own healthcare plans and you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be able to pay for yourself. And what the
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  Speaker 2: President says, I want to see billions of dollars go
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  Speaker 2: to the people, because the right now, the subsidies and
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  Speaker 2: Obamacare premiums are paid to the government and not people,
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  Speaker 2: because it turns out pay to the insurance companies, even
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  Speaker 2: though it is quote private insurance.
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  Speaker 3: That's the model.
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  Speaker 2: And so the President has come back and says, I
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  Speaker 2: want to see the billions of dollars go to the people,
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  Speaker 2: not to the insurance companies, And I want to see
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  Speaker 2: the people go out and buy themselves great health care.
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  Speaker 2: So if you don't have insurance and we pay where
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  Speaker 2: the government pays you certainly not the amount of the subsidy,
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  Speaker 2: but pays in this case, one thousand dollars a year,
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  Speaker 2: you can go out for one thousand dollars and buy
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  Speaker 2: great health care, far better than anything the government provides
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  Speaker 2: through the insurance companies. Well, that's not going to fly
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  Speaker 2: because if you look at the math, we're even under
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  Speaker 2: Obamacare and you have the three tiers, the gold, I think,
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  Speaker 2: the silver, and the platinum.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you're still paying through the nose.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you're dirt poor, you get medical care no
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  Speaker 2: matter what, especially for emergencies. But the rest of us
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  Speaker 2: are going to be absolutely nailed. And the healthcare issue
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  Speaker 2: is what cost the government a thirty eight day stoppage.
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  Speaker 2: It was all based on the healthcare and the subsidies.
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  Speaker 2: And the Republicans say, pass, get the government going again,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll vote, we'll come up with our healthcare plan
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  Speaker 2: right after the government comes back into operation and before
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  Speaker 2: the end of the year. Well, Mike Johnson is releasing
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  Speaker 2: all the Republicans their home for the holidays or will
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  Speaker 2: be this week and it's hard to vote. And so
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing the Republicans come up with not really a
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  Speaker 2: healthcare plan. I mean, they threw together something no comprehensive
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  Speaker 2: healthcare and the premise of what the Republicans have done
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  Speaker 2: since Obamacare has been put into effect, their entire issue
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  Speaker 2: is let's stop Obamacare. It is a desire. It is horrible.
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  Speaker 2: It is the worst thing that ever happened in the
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  Speaker 2: United States. So you come back and say, Okay, give
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  Speaker 2: us an alternative. We have an alternative. What is it, Well,
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  Speaker 2: we have an alternative here.
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  Speaker 3: It is. They put this.
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  Speaker 2: Together literally when the government came back into operation, and
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  Speaker 2: they played with it back and forth and believing nothing's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen you for those of you that are
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  Speaker 2: covered by Obamacare, you ain't going to be well by
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  Speaker 2: the subsidies helping you out with Obamacare, You're not going
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  Speaker 2: to be And the Republicans going to get nailed for this.
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  Speaker 2: And I think this is one of the two things
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  Speaker 2: that are going to nail the Republicans come the midterm
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  Speaker 2: and come to general election in three years for a
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  Speaker 2: Republican candidate who has supported the president over the years,
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  Speaker 2: and all the Democrats have to do is run ads
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  Speaker 2: where the Republican says, I support the president, I believe
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  Speaker 2: in everything he believes in. It's to be a problem
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  Speaker 2: because you've got healthcare and you have inflation, and the
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  Speaker 2: inflation is how Trump won, arguing that inflation under Biden
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  Speaker 2: is what cost Americans basically the ability to buy groceries,
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  Speaker 2: for example, and pay rent and buy insurance, which is true.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, under Biden, a president can't really affect inflation.
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  Speaker 3: There's too many other factors.
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  Speaker 2: And when inflation goes up, you can't nail President Trump
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  Speaker 2: because presidents just don't have that much influence. Although it's
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  Speaker 2: a great political Oh what a platform it is. Standing
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  Speaker 2: on that platform, standing on behind the lectern and arguing
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  Speaker 2: inflation and insurance is really easy to do. Once you
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  Speaker 2: get into power, then you find out reality. One of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite phrases is or one of my favorite questions,
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  Speaker 2: and this is asked of every president, and this was
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  Speaker 2: asked of President Obama as he was sworn in a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks later interview. The interview started and one of
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  Speaker 2: the reporters said to him or asked him, mister president,
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  Speaker 2: you know you're obviously the first African American President. Do
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  Speaker 2: you understand how important it is? And he said absolutely
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  Speaker 2: for the first ten minutes, and then when you sit
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  Speaker 2: behind the desk, it gets really dicey because you have
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  Speaker 2: to govern. Okay, Now, there is a story about Susie Wiles,
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  Speaker 2: the chief of staff to the President, who gave a
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  Speaker 2: series of interviews to The Atlantic, and nobody understands why
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  Speaker 2: she did that, not only the members of the cabinet,
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  Speaker 2: other members, but people in the know and other chiefs
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  Speaker 2: of staff for.
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  Speaker 3: Going what is she doing?
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  Speaker 2: And what she did is rip into some of the
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  Speaker 2: cabinet members and the vice president. The big one is
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  Speaker 2: telling everybody in the interview that the president is someone
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  Speaker 2: with an alcoholic personality and alcoholics personality. Now, I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the least damaging of all because Donald Trump doesn't
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  Speaker 2: drink not a drop. He's a complete teetotaler, so arguing
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  Speaker 2: that he has anything to do with alcoholism makes absolutely
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  Speaker 2: no sense other than arguing he has the personality of
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  Speaker 2: an alcoholic. He even agreed with that. That is not damaging.
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  Speaker 2: Now what he said or what she said about Pam Bondi,
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  Speaker 2: the Attorney General, that's.
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  Speaker 3: A little different. Straight out accuses Pam bondy.
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  Speaker 2: What is it whistling or just whiffling, wifling the Epstein case,
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  Speaker 2: really screwing it up. The other thing she did was
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  Speaker 2: she criticized jd Vance. Now, one of the things Pam
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  Speaker 2: Bonni didn't defend. We don't have what she said jd
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  Speaker 2: Vance she accused of straight out as a conspiracist, and
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  Speaker 2: jd Vance said.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a.
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  Speaker 2: Conspiracy because those conspiracies are true.
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  Speaker 3: And so you know, there was some deflection.
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  Speaker 2: I think the big story is hert giving the interview
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  Speaker 2: and the attacks on other members of the cabinet.
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  Speaker 3: No is she in trouble. No, doesn't look that way.
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  Speaker 2: The President and the others backed her up one and
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  Speaker 2: as long as she says, and this is Susie Wiles
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  Speaker 2: and others say that the president is the greatest president,
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  Speaker 2: as Donald Trump says, in the history of the Solar system,
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  Speaker 2: and by far the greatest president we've ever had. Even
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  Speaker 2: if you combine the efforts and theccomplishments of George Washington
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  Speaker 2: and Abraham Lincoln, put those two together, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: have as great a president as we have right now.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, where is this going to go?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's not going to go very far because it
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  Speaker 2: takes it takes a fair amount to undo one's position
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  Speaker 2: with the president, especially if you were an ardent loyalist.
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  Speaker 2: She also says this was taken completely out of context.
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  Speaker 2: Now she doesn't dispute she said it, but I have
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  Speaker 2: to tell you and being I'm not a victim, but
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  Speaker 2: being involved in something that could have been taken completely
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  Speaker 2: out of context even when you say it. This happens
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  Speaker 2: all of the time, and I wouldn't be surprised if
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  Speaker 2: she wasn't absolutely right about it being taken out of context.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, A story about Elon Musk.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Yeah, one of the weirdest guys out there, but
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  Speaker 2: in real when you are the wealthiest person on the planet,
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  Speaker 2: you can be weird. There is no question about it.
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  Speaker 2: And when he speaks, people actually listen. Now do they
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  Speaker 2: pay attention to him? I don't know. He's pretty out there.
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  Speaker 2: Fourteen kids, five different women. I think I heard that
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  Speaker 2: one is trans. Do I have that right? One of
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  Speaker 2: his children is trans. We can look that up. And
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  Speaker 2: he has disowned the kids, And if he hasn't, I
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  Speaker 2: apologize to you humbly, mister Musk, because I don't want
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  Speaker 2: you to assume me, and I'm truly sorry that I
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  Speaker 2: may have offended you beyond anything I can imagine. And
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  Speaker 2: I am now looking at myself in the mirror and saying,
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  Speaker 2: you should not have said that. Do you think that's
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  Speaker 2: enough for? Should I go further than that? You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to get on his You don't want to get
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  Speaker 2: on his bad side anyway. One of the weirdest things
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  Speaker 2: about leon Elon Musk is his position that money is
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  Speaker 2: going to disappear. He believes money itself is on borrow
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  Speaker 2: time because we have a workforce in the future will
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  Speaker 2: to be dominated by AI and robotics, and salaries will
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  Speaker 2: become straight out non existence. Therefore, cash becomes irrelevant. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a story under or a story by a finance
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  Speaker 2: dot Yahoo that starts with, say, let's say you've worked
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  Speaker 2: your way up the ladder and now you have a
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  Speaker 2: six figure income, comfortable. Maybe you have a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: cash in the bank, you've been able to save or
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  Speaker 2: have invested in stocks and retirement accounts. According to Musk,
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  Speaker 2: none of that is going to matter at all. He said,
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  Speaker 2: I think money disappears as a concept, honestly, and he
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  Speaker 2: went on to explain it it's kind of strange. But
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  Speaker 2: in a future where anyone can have anything, you no
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  Speaker 2: longer need money as the database for labor accola allocation.
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  Speaker 2: Sure sounds like Karl Marx, doesn't he if a I know,
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  Speaker 2: except under Karl Marx you work. If AI and robotics
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  Speaker 2: are big enough to satisfy all human needs, then money
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  Speaker 2: is no longer necessary and its relevance declines dramatically.
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  Speaker 3: So let's look at that for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: If robots can build houses, grow food, manufacture goods, which
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  Speaker 2: at some point probably will provide services like healthcare education
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  Speaker 2: at near zero cost, then wages stop becoming the mechanism
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  Speaker 2: that determines who gets what. And he looks at it,
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  Speaker 2: and he points to something that he really believes in,
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  Speaker 2: and he read and asks us to read the Culture
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  Speaker 2: series by Ian Banks, and that is his best imagining
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  Speaker 2: of the world. And these are science fiction levels that
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  Speaker 2: depict a utopian future where citizens can have anything they
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  Speaker 2: want thanks to AI making money becomes absolutely obsolete, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be free to spend our time doing
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  Speaker 2: whatever we love. And Musk has returned to this and
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  Speaker 2: said it repeatedly, even two years ago, when chat GP
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  Speaker 2: was basically new He was telling former UK Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Rishi Sunak that AI will soon be able to do everything,
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  Speaker 2: and work will effectively become well a hobby. Now, there
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  Speaker 2: are a couple of unanswered questions that he hasn't done
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  Speaker 2: a good job of answering those. If money disappears, then
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  Speaker 2: who or what decides who gets access to scarce resources?
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  Speaker 2: Because even houses there are going to be big houses
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  Speaker 2: inns and smaller houses and maybe derelict houses in areas
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  Speaker 2: that are dirt poor.
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  Speaker 3: Who guess what?
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  Speaker 2: Because money is no longer the arbiter or the arbitrator here,
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  Speaker 2: or the basis of getting into a nice house. That's
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  Speaker 2: just one of the issues. How about I want to
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  Speaker 2: go on vacation, I have to pay for it. Now
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  Speaker 2: if I don't have money, I want to go on vacation,
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  Speaker 2: But everybody else wants to go on vacation. Who makes
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  Speaker 2: the choice. And he said in less than twenty years,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even as little as ten or fifteen years, the
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  Speaker 2: advancements in AI and robotics will bring us to a
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  Speaker 2: point where working is optional. Now, we had that philosophy
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  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, there were going to be
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  Speaker 2: flying cars.
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  Speaker 3: You remember that. Well, we're actually there. It took us
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  Speaker 3: a while to get there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to have flying cars, and we wondered,
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  Speaker 2: how are people going to be able to fly these
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  Speaker 2: cars without training and they're going to run into each other. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we have the technology that does exactly that. In the future,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna have driverless cars, which we have right now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to be the Jetsons.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that George Jetson had a job, didn't he,
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  Speaker 2: Yes he did, and he was still paid, wasn't he?
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  Speaker 3: Yes he was.
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  Speaker 2: And so technologies like chat, GPT and Google, Gemini and
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  Speaker 2: some of the others have actually alleviated the burden of
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  Speaker 2: some time consuming work, which, by the way, for those
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  Speaker 2: of you that used to do those time consuming jobs
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  Speaker 2: and you're out of a job and you still need money,
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  Speaker 2: that gets a little tough. Because you go to a
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  Speaker 2: Starbucks or you go to the grocery store and you
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  Speaker 2: put money on that counter, you put the cornflakes on
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  Speaker 2: the counter.
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  Speaker 3: They really want money.
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  Speaker 2: And according to Musk, you'll be able to just grab
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  Speaker 2: that box and walk out the door. But if everybody
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  Speaker 2: grabs that box, you're gonna run out of that box.
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  Speaker 2: And I want a box of cereal two and who
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  Speaker 2: makes that decision. So there's work such as data cleaning, summarization,
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  Speaker 2: administrative tasks, and those are going by the wayside. One
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  Speaker 2: survey last year says by twenty twenty nine, AI will
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  Speaker 2: save workers up to twelve hours per week. Well, I've
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  Speaker 2: been hearing that since I've been a kid, that the
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  Speaker 2: future is going to bring us flying cars, which you're here,
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  Speaker 2: will big bring us driverless cars?
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  Speaker 3: Well that's here.
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  Speaker 2: We'll suck up a lot of the work that we do.
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  Speaker 3: That's here.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember, we're gonna work thirty five hours or
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  Speaker 2: less and then thirty hours or less somehow.
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  Speaker 3: That is in here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, moving on. I don't know if you're
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  Speaker 2: in therapy. I've been in therapy most of my life.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other thing about those of the Hebrewic American persuasion.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of us are in therapy.
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  Speaker 2: I pay, actually, I pay for my therapist therapist. That's
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  Speaker 2: how involved I am with therapy. And there is an
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  Speaker 2: article in the Atlantic whoh yeah, I talked to Susie
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  Speaker 2: Wilds and what therapists are saying, And the author here
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  Speaker 2: talked to a dozen therapists. So this is clearly anecdotal,
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  Speaker 2: but I think this goes across the board. Therapists are
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  Speaker 2: being gas lit by gas lighting. I mean they're being
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  Speaker 2: told this is happening and it's not happening. And I
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  Speaker 2: think gas lighting was the number one word of the
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  Speaker 2: year by the Webster Dictionary and Miriam Wexbert or Oxford Dictionary.
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  Speaker 2: There's a therapist in your York and he's talking about
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  Speaker 2: a couple recently use the term gaslighting to describe almost
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  Speaker 2: every disagreement they have. Oh you're gaslighting me. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: therapist says, this is psychological abuse. They're not being gas lit.
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  Speaker 2: What they are is in the middle of a disagreement.
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  Speaker 2: And you also have other words therapeutic words that now
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  Speaker 2: describe relationships outside of therapy, wrongly applied terms boundaries, triggered trauma,
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  Speaker 2: bond and oh, obsessive compulsive disorder, bipolarity, bipolar disorder, autism ADHD,
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  Speaker 2: And people haven't been diagnosed with those. You know, everybody
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  Speaker 2: has ADHD, everybody. I remember when my kids who were
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  Speaker 2: being treated. I was one of those being treated for
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  Speaker 2: ADHD or bipolarity or autism whatever. And they're in grammar
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  Speaker 2: school and we were really reluctant to admit to the
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  Speaker 2: counselor at school the nurse that they were on medication.
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  Speaker 2: And so we've finally we decided and we said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you please keep this quiet, and I
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  Speaker 2: know we have to tell you, but you know, my
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  Speaker 2: kids are on this medication.
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  Speaker 3: Is that going to be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: And the counselor said, over half the kids at this
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  Speaker 2: school are on medication for bipolarity and autism.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just one of those things.
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  Speaker 2: And doctors prescribe drugs, that's the other thing. And Jim
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  Speaker 2: Kinney has explained that when a patient demands a drug,
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  Speaker 2: the doctors write the script other than drugs that are
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  Speaker 2: illegal or will absolutely cause harm. And so two things happen.
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  Speaker 2: Number One, the people use these words bandied about. This
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  Speaker 2: is internet stuff. This is where we learn this stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and we're using it well TikTok, and you have Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: Billions of people use that, and so you therapy almost disappears.
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  Speaker 2: It does because you're looking at the therapists and you
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  Speaker 2: actually are giving yourself therapists therapy. And what people want
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  Speaker 2: is a therapist to agree with them and simply okay
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  Speaker 2: their feelings and if their feelings are I have this issue.
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  Speaker 2: Boundaries are being are not being observed between my spouse
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  Speaker 2: and me or my kids and me, then we've got
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  Speaker 2: a real problem.
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  Speaker 3: Boundaries.
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  Speaker 2: Therapists used to use the word boundaries, and they would
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  Speaker 2: do it specifically and rarely when it actually applied.
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  Speaker 3: So people are well people.
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  Speaker 2: The therapists are glad that people are learning about therapy
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  Speaker 2: and accepting therapy. But you know these words that have
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  Speaker 2: come into lexicon. You remember tubular, that's tubular, man. I'd
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  Speaker 2: go to the Sherman Oaks Galleria just to hear the
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  Speaker 2: young ladies talk about tubularity. That, by the way, is
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  Speaker 2: another misdiagnosed syndrome.
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  Speaker 3: Tubularity. Right, Bro, it's not even right, Bro, it's right? Bruh?
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  Speaker 3: Do I have that right? Very good? There you go,
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  Speaker 3: We'll be back, bro. I just I love this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: KF I am six forty five.
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