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Saints Training Camp Preview: Biggest Storylines & Veterans on the Bubble · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: but he's done awesome. John uh Yeah. Back at the
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  Speaker 1: end of May, Kellen Moore didn't have much to say
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  Speaker 1: about Kendre Miller. Well that change as the Saints gets
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  Speaker 1: set to open up training camp Tuesday. The Saints will
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  Speaker 1: hit the practice field as they get ready for year
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  Speaker 1: two under Kellen Moore. I know what I'm keeping an
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  Speaker 1: eye on throughout camp. Last Ross Jackson the same Louisiana
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  Speaker 2: Man a hey Man doing great, Glad to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Kendra Miller, I know It's not the most important aspect
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  Speaker 1: of this team, but it's one of the most interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me, considering what you have invested a former third
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  Speaker 1: round pick, and it looked like Ross last year he
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  Speaker 1: was emerging. He was looking like the explosive guy we
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  Speaker 1: thought he could be coming out of TCU. The injury
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  Speaker 1: chops him down. Now you bring in hn They re
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  Speaker 1: signed Kamara, a couple of young backs as well. Is
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  Speaker 1: Kendra Miller going to make this team?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that's really what this training camp is
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  Speaker 2: going to be all about. Right, He's going to a
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  Speaker 2: contract year here in twenty twenty six, and now he's
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  Speaker 2: got to prove again that he's going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to stay on the field, stay healthy, and continue to contribute.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting, I think, and as you highlighted, the biggest
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  Speaker 2: question mark around Kendrick is very rarely anything about his talent.
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  Speaker 2: It's always about whether or not that talent's going to
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  Speaker 2: be on the football field or not. So I really
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  Speaker 2: think that's what this all comes down to. I think
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  Speaker 2: training camp is going to be massive for him. Head
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  Speaker 2: coach Kellen Moore said last year they effectively were effectively
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  Speaker 2: starting off with him with a slate now it's a
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  Speaker 2: clean slate plus an ACL tear at this point, and
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be something he's got to show that
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  Speaker 2: he can come back from maintain that explosion, and keep
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  Speaker 2: it going. I think if he's able to do that,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of reason to keep him around. He's
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  Speaker 2: an explosive rusher, he's hard to bring down. He can
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  Speaker 2: contribute on special teams for you as well, and so
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  Speaker 2: I think for all those reasons, he has the edge
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  Speaker 2: if he's able to stay on the field throughout training camp.
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  Speaker 2: But he's going to have some competition along the way,
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  Speaker 2: and of course the biggest competition is going to be
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  Speaker 2: his availability.
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  Speaker 1: How many running backs do you think they keep Ross?
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  Speaker 2: I think they could probably keep four. You know, look,
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  Speaker 2: this is a team that no longer utilizes a fullback,
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  Speaker 2: much to Hester's dismay there, but you know it's it's
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  Speaker 2: but because of that, it does give them the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to be able to keep somebody around. And in the
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  Speaker 2: past maybe that spot was kind of taken up by
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  Speaker 2: Taysom Hill right last year when he returned back to
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  Speaker 2: the lineup and he was able to contribute to the
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  Speaker 2: run game. You don't have that here. Going into twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six, and while Tyler Shutt can run, you probably
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  Speaker 2: want to protect him as best as possible. And so
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine that keeping Travis h Chan junior, keeping
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  Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara means that there could be a spot for
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  Speaker 2: two more running backs here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to stay on the offensive side. We know,
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  Speaker 1: look a year ago at this point Russ, we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know the quarterback was going to be. It was a
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  Speaker 1: Rattler Shuck battle and that ate up all of camp.
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  Speaker 1: I guess Hainer in there as well. But now we
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  Speaker 1: know it's Tyler Shuck's team. But the backup quarterback is unsettled,
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  Speaker 1: and you've got Rattler returning. But they went and added
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  Speaker 1: a young veteran and Zach Wilson. What should we know
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  Speaker 1: about that competition or is it a competition?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you got a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: competition there. I think the thing that's super interesting about
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  Speaker 2: it is what are you looking for and what's going
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  Speaker 2: to be most valuable for the development of Tyler Shuck
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  Speaker 2: and what can you get out of those two players?
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  Speaker 2: Is going to be able to check those boxes? I
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  Speaker 2: do think, of course the quarterback too, spot is about
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  Speaker 2: who's the guy that could step in and start for
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  Speaker 2: you if you needed to, or who's the guy that
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  Speaker 2: can go in at even the end of a game
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  Speaker 2: and just is the best at handoffs right while you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to run the clock out, whatever it might be. There's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, those pieces of it. But I also think
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  Speaker 2: that the other big thing here that you're looking for
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  Speaker 2: is who's going to be the guy that Tyler Schuck
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  Speaker 2: goes to on the sideline and has conversations with along
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  Speaker 2: with the offensive coordator Dougnas Smeyer and head coach Kellen
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  Speaker 2: Moore and says, Okay, what did you see? Because that's
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  Speaker 2: what a lot of the you know, you think about
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  Speaker 2: the Chase Daniels of the world, the Mark Brunell's of
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  Speaker 2: the world, the Teddy Bridgewaters of the world. Those guys
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  Speaker 2: that were great backup quarterbacks for New Worlds while Drew
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  Speaker 2: Brees was around. Those were guys that he could go
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  Speaker 2: off to the sideline with and have a conversation with.
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  Speaker 2: And so who's going to be that player? And so
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  Speaker 2: the value of what you're trying to weigh here is
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  Speaker 2: the institutional knowledge, which is where Spencer Raller kind of
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  Speaker 2: has a little bit of the advantage there being that
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  Speaker 2: he started multiple games in this system with head coach
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Moore just last year. Or is the overall NFL
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  Speaker 2: experience of a guy like Zach Wilson more valuable. So
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  Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see exactly what it is that
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  Speaker 2: they find most valuable out of those two things, in
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  Speaker 2: addition to the on field performance, which of course will
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  Speaker 2: factor in. But I do think that the above the
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  Speaker 2: shoulders ness of those two guys is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a big deciding back ross.
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  Speaker 1: Can they keep them both considering the emergency quarterback on
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  Speaker 1: game day?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that certainly maximizes things you can even get. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you could potentially even get one of those guys with
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  Speaker 2: the practice squad potentially. But the hunter Deckers factor kind
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  Speaker 2: of has an impact there. I imagine Kellen Moore and
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  Speaker 2: the Saints really like Hunter Deckers, like what, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the development piece that he is, and so how he
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  Speaker 2: factors in as well, turns that from a two person
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  Speaker 2: conversation to a three person conversation in terms of keeping
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  Speaker 2: that third quarterback either on the active roster or on
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  Speaker 2: the practice squad, But certainly a round that they can
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  Speaker 2: go with that emergency third quarterback with at Ross Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: Nola is where you can get him. You can always
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  Speaker 1: read him for free at Louisiana Sports do on net,
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  Speaker 1: listen or watch for free locked on Saints one. On defense,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get a few maybe that you're you're keeping
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  Speaker 1: an eye on. I'm fascinated by this linebacker rotation because
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  Speaker 1: they keep adding young guys there, and the vivor has
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  Speaker 1: already seen to Mario Davis out and it makes me think,
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  Speaker 1: Ross that when you look at the contract, this could
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  Speaker 1: be Pete Werner's last year in New Orleans. Are you
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  Speaker 1: seeing the same thing in this camp that this feels
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  Speaker 1: really like an important month for Pete Warner?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. I think it's important for him,
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  Speaker 2: and I also think that there's the chance that it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot to do with what he does.
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  Speaker 2: It might really be all about what Danny Stutsman does.
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  Speaker 2: The stat that always keeps jumping out to me about
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  Speaker 2: Danny Stutsman in particular, and we're talking about kind of
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  Speaker 2: like keeping this linebacker room interest and he's a player
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  Speaker 2: that certainly does that. He took just over two hundred
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  Speaker 2: snaps last year, had fifty three tackles. He had tackles
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  Speaker 2: on twenty six percent of his defensive snaps, which is
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  Speaker 2: an insane frequency that you know, you go from two
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  Speaker 2: hundred snaps to six hundred steps, you're probably not, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sustaining that rate of playmaking. But you add on top
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  Speaker 2: of that a five point four percent misstackle rate. Just
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  Speaker 2: really reliable as a guy that can come in and
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  Speaker 2: make plays, and he made those plays at just beyond
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  Speaker 2: and behind the line of scrimmage throughout the season last
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  Speaker 2: year when he got his opportunities. And so depending on
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  Speaker 2: what his performance is, the battle might be a little
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  Speaker 2: one sided, right because it might not become about what
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  Speaker 2: it is that Pete Warner does over the course of
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  Speaker 2: the training camp month, but what does Danny Sutzman do.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think it's equally important for both of
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  Speaker 2: those players. And then the Kate Nellis piece of it
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  Speaker 2: is super interesting too, because he has the ability to
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  Speaker 2: rust the passer. He has all of these incentives built
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  Speaker 2: into his contracts to start at five sacks and continue
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  Speaker 2: to progress from there. And so when he is down
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  Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage, for instance, as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: drop back and coverage, is there an opportunity maybe to
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  Speaker 2: have two linebackers on the field with him as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to one linebacker and those coverage downs, and so that
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  Speaker 2: becomes really interesting piece to it as well. When they
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  Speaker 2: decide to treat kay Nellis like an edge rusher, how
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  Speaker 2: that may be maximize his opportunities for both Pee Warner
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  Speaker 2: and Danny Subs.
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  Speaker 1: You also were right to point out lay last season
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  Speaker 1: at the opportunities that a guy like Isaiah Staalberg got.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also Jalen Ford. Are those guys that potentially
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  Speaker 1: make this team out I'm just thinking numbers.
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  Speaker 2: They are a linebacker, yeah, I mean, look, they've got
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  Speaker 2: six linebackers. Keeping five is on the active roster isn't
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  Speaker 2: out of the ordinary, right, because you want a couple
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  Speaker 2: of guys that are also going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: contribute on special teams. You'd probably like to not have
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  Speaker 2: Cad Nellis running down the field on kick coverage, right,
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  Speaker 2: You'd like to keep him reserved what you're doing defensively,
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  Speaker 2: and so having guys like Isaiah Stalbert as well as
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  Speaker 2: Dalen Ford that can both provide your depth at the
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  Speaker 2: position but also get after, you know, returners and cover
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  Speaker 2: in the punt game cover, in the kick game, Isaiah Stalberg,
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  Speaker 2: rushing even rushing punters in some cases, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of you know, opportunities to be able to keep those
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  Speaker 2: guys involved there. And so the only person that ends
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  Speaker 2: up being the odd man out at the position is
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  Speaker 2: Jackson Jackson Sermon, who the same signed late this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: He's the son of Stints linebacker coach Peter Servon. But
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  Speaker 2: he also has a quick way and quick path to
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  Speaker 2: the practice squad as a potential, you know, additional body there,
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  Speaker 2: a guy that could get elevated throughout the season and
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  Speaker 2: things like that. And so, really like the Faints have
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  Speaker 2: six linebackers and it's it's unless they continue to add
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  Speaker 2: more options, it would not be surprising at all to
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  Speaker 2: see all six of them involved in the overall roster,
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  Speaker 2: which includes the active roster and the practice spot going
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  Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: Ross, what are position battles or players are you keeping
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  Speaker 1: an eye on when they have the practice field tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the number one number that I'm looking for
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  Speaker 2: when I get out on the practice field is going
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  Speaker 2: to be number zero. Where's Jordan Tyson and how much
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  Speaker 2: is he doing? Are the Saints finally letting him go
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  Speaker 2: out there and you know, be a part of team
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  Speaker 2: drills and be involved in all these other things. Or
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  Speaker 2: do we continue to see a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: ramp up because he wasn't involved in all season practices.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of a ramp up wouldn't be massively surprising.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, you know there's reporting days and then
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  Speaker 2: there's also the actual practice day, and so we'll see
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  Speaker 2: how quickly he's able to get involved. But that'll be
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  Speaker 2: number one. The other thing that I'm super interested in
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  Speaker 2: is the competition or really just how everything unfolds in
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  Speaker 2: the interior defensive line. Devon Gotchaw, Brian Brazier, guys that
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  Speaker 2: sit at the top of the depth chart, but what
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  Speaker 2: happens behind those guys. Christian Miller drafted in the second
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  Speaker 2: round this year. He started to get involved towards the
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  Speaker 2: end of mandatory mini camp. Now he has his opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to be out on the field here, his trading camp
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  Speaker 2: get started, Verner brought and making his return from injury.
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  Speaker 2: All that, It's going to be very interesting to me
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  Speaker 2: to see how that position group plays out. And then
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  Speaker 2: of course the kicker competition. The things had the worst
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  Speaker 2: field goal percentage in the NFL last year, even after
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  Speaker 2: getting a boost when they switched over from Blake Groupye
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  Speaker 2: over to Charlie Smith. Now they've got Charlie Smith and
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  Speaker 2: Tanner Brown, who was twenty five of twenty eight last
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  Speaker 2: year in the UFL and was four four in the postseason,
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  Speaker 2: including three kicks that he made from sixty yards or more.
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  Speaker 2: There's a real competition to be had there now when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to kicker. And I know that's not the
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  Speaker 2: sexiest position in the world, but it could be the
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  Speaker 2: difference between wins and losses for this team next year.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, a couple of quick follow ups. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you've put pen to paper on this yet, but
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  Speaker 1: you typically ross to go to camp and there's there's
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  Speaker 1: like a certain number of guys that are going to
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  Speaker 1: have a spot in no matter one. Like we know
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  Speaker 1: Shuck and I mean obviously your tackles and Edwards. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you go down the list on both sides, aspon as
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  Speaker 1: you can tell how many roster spots are actually up
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  Speaker 1: for grabs, like of the fifty three, how many, how
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  Speaker 1: many are locked in? How many are for grabs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really, really good, good observation and good
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  Speaker 2: insight because it's interesting. There aren't many I would I'd
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  Speaker 2: be hard for used to put a number on it
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  Speaker 2: right now, just off the top of my head. But
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  Speaker 2: the fact matter is that you're probably looking at ten
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  Speaker 2: or less right like, there's not a lot of roster
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  Speaker 2: spots that are specifically open because there's not a lot
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  Speaker 2: of you think about the starters on either side of
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  Speaker 2: the football, there's not a lot of moves to be
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  Speaker 2: made there and not a lot of jostling to be
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  Speaker 2: made there. That's twenty two down. You already have your
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  Speaker 2: most of your specialists in the buildings. You're at least
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  Speaker 2: at twenty four or twenty five, and then beyond that
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  Speaker 2: you kind of know how the depth builds out. For instance,
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  Speaker 2: at you know, wide receiver, maybe you'll see a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more jostling, but you also have three draft picks there,
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  Speaker 2: and you kind of expect all three of the draft
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  Speaker 2: picks to make the roster, and so that maybe leaves
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  Speaker 2: one spot open potentially at wide receiver. And so for
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  Speaker 2: the most part, I mean, you're looking at all these
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  Speaker 2: all these positions across the board. For New Orleans, the
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  Speaker 2: starter and kind of the primary backup, a primary set
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  Speaker 2: of backups almost all set, and then the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the positions that might be kind of you know that
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  Speaker 2: you can compete for, might be I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: call them open, but attainable. I guess you're looking at
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  Speaker 2: like the bottom of the cornerback round, the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: the safety room, the bottom of the wide receiver room,
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  Speaker 2: some jostling at the bottom of the offensive line, and
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of where you're looking at all of this
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  Speaker 2: to happen. So not a ton, not a lot available
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  Speaker 2: for players that are looking to make an active roster
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  Speaker 2: here in New Orleans, and so it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: big for them in terms of putting some tape up
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  Speaker 2: during preseason because they're auditioning for thirty one other teams
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  Speaker 2: as well, and then of course opportunities on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 1: Last thing, I wanted to ask one follow up on
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  Speaker 1: the interior of the defensive line, and you brought up
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  Speaker 1: got veterans like Gotchaw and Brazil, and then you've got
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  Speaker 1: run and brought and coming off injury, you'd bring in
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  Speaker 1: Christian Miller. They got enough spots for all these guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't think that they do it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be very interested to see how this area of the
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  Speaker 2: roster plays out. You know, Godshaw's coming in as a
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  Speaker 2: guy that helped this team on at least develop itself
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  Speaker 2: as a run defense on a personal basis, and was
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  Speaker 2: able to help contribute in the early downs first and second.
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  Speaker 2: But this he ends up getting pushed by one of
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  Speaker 2: these young guys that could be an early down player,
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  Speaker 2: meaning that they're really good against the run, but then
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  Speaker 2: also adds value as a third down pass rusher on
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  Speaker 2: the interior as well in a way that he maybe doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy that doesn't practice on
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  Speaker 2: third down day, for instance, and usually has a limited
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  Speaker 2: day during those days. So do you start to look
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  Speaker 2: at that as the saint says like, Okay, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: have this player that's really really good in these first
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  Speaker 2: and second downs, but I also have this player that's
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  Speaker 2: really really good first second, and third down. So do
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  Speaker 2: I want to invest more of a roster spot in
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  Speaker 2: that player instead? And so there'll be some interesting kind
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  Speaker 2: of negotiations to be had of all what the interior
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  Speaker 2: defensive line looks like, which now extends out to sort
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  Speaker 2: of those three four defensive ends, not just the nose
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  Speaker 2: tackles to see exactly how the formation of that room
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  Speaker 2: is going to look. I think that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: one of the more harder, like hardest to predict rooms
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  Speaker 2: in Theiana or in the for the roster construction purposes
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  Speaker 2: will beast going into camp. And then obviously we'll get
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  Speaker 2: some more clarity as camp goes on.
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  Speaker 1: You will get the most comprehensive practice reports anywhere. Absolutely
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  Speaker 1: Sports on that, and then locked on Saints. He's at
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  Speaker 1: Ross Jackson, Nola. Thanks dude, we appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Man back at you. Take care, say safe,
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  Speaker 2: talk too soon