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89. Robin Arzón, Peloton's VP Fitness Programming & Head Instructor · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Hurdlers.
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  Speaker 2: Emily of Badi here chiming into your feeds today with
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  Speaker 2: episode eighty nine of Hurdle, a podcast that talks to
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  Speaker 2: my conversation with the One, the Only, Robin Arzon. Robin
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  Speaker 2: is the vice president of fitness Programming and head instructor
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  Speaker 1: All right, now, let's chat about Robin.
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  Speaker 2: You guys have had the opportunity to hear from her
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  Speaker 2: a couple of times on the podcast, and that's why
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  Speaker 2: I'm bringing you back this classic episode from twenty eighteen. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine a time when activity wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: part of her everyday life, but after a near death
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  Speaker 2: experience at age twenty, where she was held hostage at
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  Speaker 2: gunpoint in New York City's East Village, she leaned into
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  Speaker 2: movement and running for the first time to help her.
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  Speaker 1: Process the trauma.
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  Speaker 2: Soon enough, the then lawyer turned away from her conventional
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  Speaker 2: nine to five with hopes to turn her passion for
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  Speaker 2: sweat into her career, and that is when she found Peloton.
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  Speaker 1: She's a twenty six time.
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  Speaker 2: perspective and helped her home in on her inner swagger.
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  Speaker 2: levels on things like race day best practices and tips
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  Speaker 2: on how to take your stride to a whole other level.
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  Speaker 2: It's Emily at Hurdle dot Us. I've got an extra
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just feeling all sorts of grateful that today's episode,
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  Speaker 2: episode eighty nine, is on the birthday eve two years
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  Speaker 2: in of hurdle. You guys, you make me feel the
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  Speaker 2: luckiest with that. Let's get to hurdling in the studio
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  Speaker 2: today with Robin Arzon. She is the best selling author
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  Speaker 2: of Shut Up and Run, also the head instructor and
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  Speaker 2: VP of Fitness Programming at Peloton.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Robin, what's up? What's up? Girl, Thanks for coming
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  Speaker 1: in today. I feel like the first thing.
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  Speaker 2: We to do is like address the onsom that's happening
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  Speaker 2: in front of me. Robin's got on like the silver
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  Speaker 2: Doc Martins, a pretty dope leather and like a sports bra,
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  Speaker 2: some shiny leggings.
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  Speaker 3: This is regular for you, this kind of stick it is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad at leisure is in fashion because that's the
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  Speaker 3: only way I rock these days.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I mean it kind of has to be
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  Speaker 2: when you're going from workout to workout, to work out
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  Speaker 2: to work out, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you know some precevent sandwiched in between, and it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like I like that, the fact that this
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  Speaker 3: is a lifestyle and we live it.
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  Speaker 1: We live it, we do.
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  Speaker 2: So what I'd love to get into right from the
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  Speaker 2: get go talking a little bit about your every day
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  Speaker 2: because today you're here recording a podcast. I know Peloton
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  Speaker 2: is doing a huge launch downtown that I'll be checking
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  Speaker 2: out later with the new tread. So give me a
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  Speaker 2: snippet of maybe, quote unquote, a normal New York City
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  Speaker 2: day for you.
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  Speaker 3: I love when other people answer these questions, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: riveted by like morning routines and how people spend their time,
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  Speaker 3: and I always wonder how I can answer that accurately.
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  Speaker 3: I would say it's at least two to three hours
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  Speaker 3: of fitness a day, whether that's my own workout, a
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  Speaker 3: long run, and or instructing two to three one to
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  Speaker 3: two classes a day at peloton, tread and cycling.
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  Speaker 1: My morning routine is really important.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, like green smoothie and Macha are essentials
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  Speaker 3: before I can even walk out the door.
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  Speaker 1: What time is that for you?
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  Speaker 3: Depends on when I'm teaching, Like Tuesday morning, that might
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  Speaker 3: happen at four point thirty in the morning. On another day,
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  Speaker 3: optimally it wouldn't happen before before seven. I'm not like
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  Speaker 3: a rooster like like a lot of people think I've
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  Speaker 3: made myself into someone who prioritizes movement early in the morning,
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  Speaker 3: But I'm that's not naturally my cadence. I would sleep.
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  Speaker 3: I would sleep till seven if I had mind brothers.
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  Speaker 3: So you're the kind of person that could, like work
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  Speaker 3: out at nine o'clock at night.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: I actually have my my most effective lifting sessions.
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  Speaker 1: Are at night. Wow, yeah I don't, but.
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  Speaker 3: Then you're adrenaline is going and you're all screwed. Up,
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  Speaker 3: so I understand the need to move and prime yourself
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  Speaker 3: in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the muscles they say.
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  Speaker 2: I mean all the research says that getting active in
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  Speaker 2: the morning, like your body's not ready for it. You're
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  Speaker 2: tired your muscles just like rested for twelve hours, not
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  Speaker 2: twelve hours, but seven hours.
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  Speaker 1: I wish twelve hours.
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  Speaker 2: Go shit, same, I wish twelve hours. But so you're
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  Speaker 2: you're you know, you're lazy in the morning. But for me,
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  Speaker 2: it's like I feel sluggish if I don't do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred yeah, So okay, step button. All right, you
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  Speaker 2: get up in the morning, green juice, macha, you're out
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  Speaker 2: the door.
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  Speaker 1: And then out the door, probably teaching a class. And
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  Speaker 1: then I My day is from sun up to sundown
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  Speaker 1: jam packed.
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  Speaker 3: So I will schedule like a fifteen minute conference call
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  Speaker 3: when I know I'm going to be in an uber
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  Speaker 3: on the way to the next press thing.
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  Speaker 1: I will, you know, have millions. I have all the snacks.
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  Speaker 3: If you ever run into me and you need a snack,
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  Speaker 3: I got you because I literally I have at least
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  Speaker 3: three workout clothes, probably two sets of shoes, lifters and
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  Speaker 3: running shoes, as well as all the snacks, and that
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  Speaker 3: is to enable me to really leave in the morning
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  Speaker 3: and not come back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, probably usually twelve to fourteen hour days. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I have days, you know, filled with workouts, press events,
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  Speaker 3: you know, writing articles, doing stuff with my publisher based
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  Speaker 3: for my book, doing things like this podcast for Peloton
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  Speaker 3: or Not.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm the head instructor, so I have a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Meetings that involve not only recruiting our amazing talent, but
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  Speaker 3: also working with our talent and making sure that they
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  Speaker 3: have the resources and the skill sets that they need
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  Speaker 3: to shine on our platforms and you know, not to
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  Speaker 3: be taken lately, working very collaboratively with our production team
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  Speaker 3: to produce the amazing fourteen hours of live content that
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  Speaker 3: we I am now more than that, Wow, over twenty
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  Speaker 3: four hours of live content now with the tread that
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  Speaker 3: we send to the world every day.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot of content. That's a lot. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's flash back for a second and talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about how different things were you fifteen, sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: seventeen years ago.
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  Speaker 1: You were on track to become a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: So talk to me a little bit about what life
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  Speaker 2: was like then and where you thought you would end up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, my father was an attorney, and I always
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  Speaker 3: kind of loved the idea of wrestling with the law
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  Speaker 3: and facts, and I was drawn to that natural storytelling
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  Speaker 3: that now I do as a writer. But back then,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, man, a law that's my bag. I
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  Speaker 3: was at NYU really thinking, Okay, I'm going to become
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  Speaker 3: a partner at a law firm, or I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: become like something in the legal field that will make
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  Speaker 3: my family proud.
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  Speaker 1: And I was on track to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I was heading into my senior year at n YU
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  Speaker 3: and I had already been accepted to Villanova Law School.
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  Speaker 3: I knew where I was going the next year, and
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  Speaker 3: that felt really good. But then things.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, life happens, right.
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  Speaker 3: It's just the when you think of yourself as an
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  Speaker 3: actor or a hero in your own story, sometimes life
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  Speaker 3: gives you the opportunity to really make choice of victim
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  Speaker 3: or victor. And for me, that happened one night in
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  Speaker 3: the East Village when I was held hostage by a
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  Speaker 3: complete stranger who really just wanted to inflict pain on people,
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  Speaker 3: and he had guns and swords, and it was crazy town,
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  Speaker 3: like it was truly when time slows down and you're
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  Speaker 3: you are looking at yourself as as an actor in
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  Speaker 3: a play like it's wild and you were you were
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  Speaker 3: twenty when this happened.
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  Speaker 1: I was twenty and so who were you there with?
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  Speaker 1: What were you doing? I was there with friends underage
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  Speaker 1: a few a few weeks first birthday. I realized. I
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  Speaker 1: just like completely called you out.
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  Speaker 3: At the time.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's cool. I've talked about it before.
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  Speaker 3: But honestly, if that's what you're focused on, you're not
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  Speaker 3: freaking what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: You're not listening.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Oh yeah, So I was just out at a
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  Speaker 3: wine bar with friends. I was working as a parentleegal
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  Speaker 3: at a law firm at the time, really trying to
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  Speaker 3: like cut my teeth on this new you know, venture
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  Speaker 3: of wall and I mean, you want to talk about
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  Speaker 3: bright eyed and bushytailed Like I.
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  Speaker 1: Was entering my senior year at NYU.
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  Speaker 3: I already had my law acceptance locked in, I had
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  Speaker 3: a job, I had friends in the city, and it
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  Speaker 3: was like somemer in the city, like that vibe is
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  Speaker 3: the best and at any moment things can be taken
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  Speaker 3: away from you, and for me in that moment, thankfully,
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  Speaker 3: I survived obviously everybody survived that situation, actually, but I
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  Speaker 3: lost my ability to be naive to my own agency
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  Speaker 3: and how I am in control of.
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  Speaker 1: How I react to the world.
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  Speaker 3: And it ended up being a huge blessing because I
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  Speaker 3: had to wake up the next morning and be like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: am I a victim.
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  Speaker 1: Or a hero of this story? Very long story short.
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  Speaker 3: This man ended up taking about twenty people in the
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  Speaker 3: bar hostage, and the NYPD outside were called, of course,
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  Speaker 3: Mayhem on Second Avenue in the East village, and I
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  Speaker 3: became student negotiator between this man and the NYPD outside.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was doing.
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  Speaker 3: My entire purpose in that moment was to humanize the
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  Speaker 3: situation and just to remind him that these people had siblings, parents,
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  Speaker 3: loved ones that wanted to hear.
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  Speaker 1: From them tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: And my refrain, back to the storytelling piece of it was,
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  Speaker 3: this is not the end of my story. My mother
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  Speaker 3: is not getting a call tomorrow that I died in
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  Speaker 3: these village And that somehow allowed me to make a
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  Speaker 3: connection with this guy long enough for the NYPD to intercede,
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  Speaker 3: and this really brave woman and Margaret ended up jumping
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  Speaker 3: him from behind so that like moment gave the NYPD
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  Speaker 3: enough time to kind of come in and thankfully the
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  Speaker 3: situation came to a close. But I mean it feels
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  Speaker 3: like years when somebody has a gun to your head.
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  Speaker 3: You don't wake up the next morning the same.
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  Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy because you think about like
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  Speaker 2: you can always anticipate or I mean hopefully you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to, but and just a bit how you might
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  Speaker 2: react in that moment. Yeah, but that moment happened, and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you had the mental clarity instead of
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  Speaker 2: just totally freaking out to stop and think, okay, what's
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  Speaker 2: my step? Like what am I going to do here?
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  Speaker 2: How are we going to get out of this? And
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  Speaker 2: act almost clear, clear headedly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, well, you know people always say like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you look, you look at someone as other
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  Speaker 3: and think I could never do that, And it might be,
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  Speaker 3: you know, an act of bravery, or it might be
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  Speaker 3: you know, a marathon or attending a spin class, and
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  Speaker 3: it's like, well, you can if you have to, or
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  Speaker 3: you have to what if you had to? What if
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  Speaker 3: you don't have a choice. The human spirit is so
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  Speaker 3: incredibly resilient. We here amazing stories of people dealing with
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  Speaker 3: far worse than I ever have every single day and
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  Speaker 3: living to tell the tale and living to unify and
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  Speaker 3: really really just rise above.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously a heartle moment of sorts. You're going into
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  Speaker 2: your senior year, you make it out of this horrific situation.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, you're still pretty on track and excited
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  Speaker 2: to go to law school and continue on, maybe with
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  Speaker 2: a renewed sense of purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely felt like, Okay, I'm here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm alive for a reason, Like let's have that zest
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  Speaker 3: for life that seems like a cliche until you almost
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  Speaker 3: die and then it's not. And then like I will
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  Speaker 3: take every Hallmark card, you know, copy piece of copy
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  Speaker 3: that seems hyperbolic. It's like, no, we're here. I'm happy,
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  Speaker 3: really really happy to be alive. So I answered law
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  Speaker 3: school and it was cool, but I had no idea
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  Speaker 3: how much trauma my body had actually absorbed.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I went to talk therapy. They're like, oh, you're good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I seem to be pretty stable. Let's
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  Speaker 3: rock this law school thing. And it was one day
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  Speaker 3: I was called to just lace up and run. Never
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  Speaker 3: had run a mountain mile in my life. I was
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  Speaker 3: allergic to exercise. I completely did not identify as an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: The thought of participating in any type of sport or
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  Speaker 3: any type of workout truly intimidated me, like gave me,
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  Speaker 3: you know that that tension in the in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of your chest. And it's really crazy that now that
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  Speaker 3: is my life's work and it gets me out of
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  Speaker 3: bed in the morning. But back then it was it
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  Speaker 3: was really terrifying. But I felt the need to move,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the trigger was, obviously, you know, this
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  Speaker 3: traumatic experience that happened and I had done enough talking.
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  Speaker 3: Now I needed to start moving, And it was it
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  Speaker 3: was the running shoes that helped me really like.
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  Speaker 1: Run it out. So when you say call, it was
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  Speaker 1: a call from within, call.
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  Speaker 3: From within absolutely, like it was almost like something was
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  Speaker 3: tethered to my chest and was like, you were going
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  Speaker 3: out to run today, girl. And when I say I
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  Speaker 3: should say run in air quotes, I mean it might
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  Speaker 3: have been like a very brisk, yeah walk. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I had no endurance at that point. Literally, I was
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  Speaker 3: completely deconditioned. But I did it, and I got up again,
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  Speaker 3: and I did it the next day, and then I
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  Speaker 3: signed up for races and it was a very slow,
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  Speaker 3: iterative process.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I totally hear you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when I started running, it was like a
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  Speaker 2: half mile every day for a summer, and then slowly
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  Speaker 2: in the same kind of storyline, it's like half mile
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  Speaker 2: becomes a five k, you set up for a race,
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  Speaker 2: you feel like you suck, but you do it. The
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  Speaker 2: five k becomes a half marathon, and then we're running
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  Speaker 2: everywhere and everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time, all the races, all the.
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  Speaker 2: Time, all the time. You're running new because yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: am same same, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: I uh.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So you start running, and around this time in
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  Speaker 2: your life, you're also getting maybe your first job at
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  Speaker 2: a law firm.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I was at my one law firm my entire career.
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  Speaker 3: I was a summer associated a Paul Hastings, and then
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  Speaker 3: I ended up practicing there for seven years after I graduated,
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  Speaker 3: or I left in my seventh year.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, and talk to me about what it was like
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: when you were leaving, Like why were you leaving?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: What was the mental thought process You're you're running.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: You're like, I'm a lawyer, but I'm also really identifying
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: with this running thing.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I like activity. So what I ran at her law career.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Like literally, as I picked up my mileage and my
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: passion for running, I became much more immersed in the
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: running community, which is incredible and truly enveloping. And it
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: was at a time when there was a confluence of
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: like social media and a buzziness around urban running. However,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: folks wanted to find that I was running with the
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: New York City Bridge Runners at the time and still
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: do an amazing group. I didn't hate law, so it
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: would be much easier if the story were I hated
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I was miserable. It was like no, I actually like
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the intellectual rigor of law, and the partners who I
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: worked with were badass. But I felt like I was
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: leading a divorced existence, almost like like the superhero, like
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: if you hang up the cape and then you go
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: to the office, and then you leave the lead this
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: other life at night, and I would count down the
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: hours until I could move, till I could sweat so
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I could go to spin class, so I could.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Run with my crew. And I thought, if I could
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: monetize this sweat thing, then I would be golden.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I would be living in that flow, like an ex
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: boyfriend that you wish he did something really bad, so
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you can just tell him that, like he's not worth
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: your energy.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But when like it just kind of ends, you're like, oh,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: this is so much worse. Yeah, so much worse.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Well, people live at that in that malaise and that
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: like just okay, yeah, but it's not okay to feel
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: just okay, and people aren't told that enough. And it
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: is to use that relationship analogy, it's like then when
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: you're in the right relationship, you're like, Oh, this is
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: what it's supposed to be like and crazy and it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: so crazy. And so that is how I felt about
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: about my departure from laws that I didn't hate law,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: but I loved this other thing, and I needed to
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: figure out if I failed, I failed on my own
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: terms at least and doing something, doing.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Something that I loved.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: So two weeks before the London twenty twelve Olympics, with
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: a Craft's iPhone and a and a Tumblr blog, I decided,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to just report from the games.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna quit my job and I'm going to go
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: and interview athletes and I'm just going to be where
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: the stuff is happening.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: How did you get that access? Oh, I hustled. I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: knew some guy who ran track.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: He introduced me to the PR people for the US
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Olympic team.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Pure hustle. Nobody kne who I was.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I was standing next to like you know, the network greats, CBS, NBC,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: and it was like I was just this kid, but
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: you know what, like you gotta fake it till you
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: make it. And I ended up having really cool like
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: interviews and Carra Gatcher, who now I'm a contributor to
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: her book, and other athletes who have no reason to
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: give me an interview, you know, somehow gave me the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: time of day, and that gave me insight into even
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: more true storytelling and the fabric that we're weaving in
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: being these storytellers.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So it sounds like at the beginning, you're kind of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: thinking of getting into fitness and wellness, like from maybe
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like a writer journalistic side.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It's the only box that I had available to me.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Right So I when I give people advice, now career advice,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I say, uncheck all the boxes, take a true, true
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: inventory of your skill set and where you want to
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: get to, and.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Then bridge that gap.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: But I was inserting myself into the box that I
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: had already created, so you know, editors that you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: like like Rosin Fresher for example, like was nice enough
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to meet me for coffee one day, and.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, what's it like to be an editor
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: at a magazine? You know?
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I had no fucking clue, right, So it was like
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: figuring it out within the parameters that I perceived, right,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: And then I realized, after thinking, the only way I
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: can leave law and not be a professional athlete is
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: to be a journalist. Social media really helped me kind
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of just establish my own voice and then establish a brand,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: which would have been unheard of, you know, ten, ten
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: to twenty years ago.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: So talked to me about what that looked like then.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So you're at the Games, you come back, what are
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you doing with this content?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Where are you putting it?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: And then what's your next step into kind of creating content?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Still but not really thinking like, Okay, I've got to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: be on this like journalist path right now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: So while I was at the Games, I actually I
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: had my Tumbler account and honestly I created my Tumblr
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: shot Up and Run, which later became the name for
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: my book, simply to document my New York City marathon
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: training journey in twenty ten.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: It was just like my own.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Scrap book and then that kind of you know, create
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: had a life of its own.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Was that your first? My first? Yeah, New York City,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: New York City, twenty ten.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I was raising money for MS research and because my
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: mom has MS, and that became that. That was it,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: That was the game, That was the game changing race.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I crossed that finish line. I was like, Okay, this
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: is what I'm meant to do forever.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, truly.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: So while I was while I was in London at
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the Games, I ended up receiving a job opportunity to
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: work on the agency side for Nike Women. So Nike
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Women was the client of the agency and I was
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: going to be working on that team, working on their
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: social media accounts. And it was I mean, I thought like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is a few bigsceps when I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: left my law job. I'm actually going to get some
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: kind of paycheck doing something that I find it interesting.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: But then about six months later, six months into it,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, man, like I'm still not telling my
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: story as an athlete. I really feel like I have
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: a point of view that it's not being told. You know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: this unapologetic voice of a female athlete who was not
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: always an athlete, and I wasn't necessarily seeing people like
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: us represented in that story, and so I had to
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: pivot again. And the second pivot was scarier than the first,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: because the first one was like, all right, I'm jumping
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: off the cliff, and then the second is like, well,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you haven't even built your rings yet and you're about
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to jump off the other one. Yeah, but that was
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: the right choice because I was forced situationally to kind
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: of really think hard about what my dream job would be.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: It'd be like, what kind of partnerships and collaborations would
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: be your dream job? And on my vision board, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: had that I wanted to work with a modern company
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: with like amazing hardware and technology first, and literally a
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: year later Peloton. You know, I read about Pelton and
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: John Polly, So this is like, none of this is accidental,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: but I had to create. I had to exercise the
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: right no in order for the right yes to appear. Right,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I think there's a I think there's a lot of
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: things I want to jump into.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: First of all, I think a lot of people struggle
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: with this idea and do I want to pursue my
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: personal brand or do I want to put my skill
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: set into another brand. You obviously felt super passionate about
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: telling your story. Do you think that was kind of
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the jumping off point, like that was why you knew
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: you had to do it?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think coming off the heels of
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: wrestling excess dentially honestly with like why am I here?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Why do I survive this? Just having a gun to
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: my head? So I was still wrestling with that kind
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: of spiritual thing. And I started telling my story on
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: social media and people, you know, handfuls of the time
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: started paying attention on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook whatever,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and that community really felt like a community to men.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, wow, like there are people in this
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: world who who also want to show up to you know, a.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Race, wearing whatever they want to wear.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: And they might have like lipstick or rings, or they
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: might work in a band, or they might be in fashion,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: and they're still doing this thing, and we can uncheck
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: all of these other ways that we've been siloed and
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: come together and creator a movement.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Right And did you know at the time that you
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: could monetize that girl? The day I stopped accepting free shoes,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: my life changed.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I said, no, my this meeting is now and now
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: comes with a consultant fee. Yeah, this pick your brain
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: moment is no longer a pick your brain moment. I
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: will be invoicing you for this talk, because then my
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: idea is be taken and use for photo shoots and
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: use for campaigns and use for marketing pitches.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, nah, that's not how this is working.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: So I had to snatch my power back in that moment,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: and a lot of people said no. A lot of
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: people said no, and I just had to accept that
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: and know that within time.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: It would come.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Did you get did you ask other I guess maybe
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: people in similar positions or other consultants to get a
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: better idea of like what you should be charging for
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff? I completely made you totally went it,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: completely made it up. I love hearing that and it
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: makes me laugh because I sat down. Hayden Slater from
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Press Juicery was on the podcast and he was on
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: a phone call and he tells me that the web
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: developer is like, so, how much is the juice? And
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: he's like, one second, let me check my notes, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: he puts the mute button on. He looks to his
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: cool founder's like, how much is the juice? He's like
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: maybe seven to fifty. He goes that sounds too expensive.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: He's like, how about five dollars? She goes, no, They're
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: like six fifty sounds good.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: It's six fifty.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And like, I feel like that's such a common theme
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: with with young entrepreneurs or I mean old onentrepreneurs as
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: entrepreneurs in general. It's like when you start understanding what
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: your true worth is, that's when people are gonna offer
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you your true worth. When you're gonna when you're gonna
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: speak up and say it. And sometimes you know you're
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: gonna have to be okay with being told no. But
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: those aren't the people that you want to mess with anyway, exactly. Oh, curate,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: curate the collaborations that you want to work with. Don't
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: just say yes to any.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Old client who comes to the door or any old
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: person who's willing to sign a check for you, Like
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that could be like I really believe the energy is
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: it is frequency, right, and I and I really give
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: energy and with Pelton collaboratively like sell my energy on
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the bike and content in classes and in instruction and
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: that needs to be in order for it to feel real.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: It's got to You've got to find the right partners
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you got.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: It's just like a radio frequency, like not that that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: that that radio frequency doesn't rock with me.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I gotta keep it moving. And there's no shame in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: saying no.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: It's very very good opportunities that other people would be like, oh,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: how could you not take that?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I don't, that wasn't my vibe.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: What I would love to hear about is now you
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: getting started with Peloton. So you also you mentioned that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you have this vision board. Something else I want to
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: talk about. Let's talk about your vision board before we
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: even get to Peloton. A lot of people talk about
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: having a vision board, and it feels so daunting to
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: create it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: How long have you had it? What's on it? What
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: was on it?
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Then?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: What's on it now?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Talk about this is actually this conversation is inspiring me
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: to do a new one. But the vision board that
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I had when I was really having that post agency,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: pre any other any other income coming in moment, was
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: really just like I needed to see, not just think
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: about or talk about. I needed to physically see on paper.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: This might be also the analytical lawyer in me a plan,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: and so I just went through magazines and kind of
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: pulled out whatever jumped out at me, and then specific
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: things like, for example, like I loved how modern and
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: sleep Apple products looked.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So I literally just put up like.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: The Apple logo, like little things like that, like what
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: kind of brand partnerships would make me feel proud?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Like what kind of like Oprah's obviously on there?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Still, hey girl, you know Beyonce is on there, like
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: people who I admire and respect, people I want to
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: work with words words that I feel like are my
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: brand values. It really is just like the visual conversation
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: and then slapping it up. And of course you can
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: do this digitally, but for me, the tactile feeling of
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: like writing things out and cutting things out was very
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: cathartic for me. I really do believe I manifested things
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that I have in my life now because I was
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: able to fine tune, you know, speaking of radio frequency,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: like that was fine tuning my antenna so people could
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: find me.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I know, and I mean and shut up and rotten.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: One of your tips for getting out the door is
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: surround yourself with inspiration. So you're saying that This is
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: how you surround yourself with inspiration on a regular basis.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I still do my alarm clock says do epic shit,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: My I have post its on my mirror.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I've got I mean, I'm covered, I am wearing.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: If I could wear, you know, inspiration in like a cloak,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I would because I believe that that that keeps that
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: keeps my intentions pure.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: So Peloton, how does it happen?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: That is like how does it happen?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Like how do you like one day you're just like
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: on the street, You're wearing like some Doc Martins, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: someone's like, I think you should probably get on a bike.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: So I I read about John Foley and I thought
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: this company is And this was like when John Foley's
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: articles were a blurb, not you know, front page right,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: So but you know the company. The company was formed
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: and and they definitely had some money and they were
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: going to be opening up the New York City studio.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And I emailed him directly and I was like, hmmm,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: pretty sure our visions are aligned.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Let me work for you. What were you doing at
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: this point?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: At this point, I was teaching at a very small
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: studio in Union Square called Revolve, and I was writing,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: you know, I was just writing like blog content and
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: pitching articles that nobody ever read, and you know, just
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: rarely trying to like Hustle's journalists and for the and
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: of course running a ton and running coaching, but that
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: never really made any money.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: It was just more like I had I had passions,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: but if you're not getting paid, it's not a job.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: So you know, I was really in this wrestling with like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: how the hell am I going to make this work?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I know what I love and I don't know how
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to get paid for it yet.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: And the consultancies were great, but they were not consistent,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: so you know, it was it was how how do
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I really like have an income stream that makes it?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: And things kind of hit all at the same time.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I started getting like modeling gigs, I got an agent
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: at WMA. You know, Peloton happened, and like it was
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: all the seeds I had planted for about a decade,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: we're finally sprouting. So you know, you got to plan
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: all those seeds and if you don't know what's going
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: to come from it, because.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Literally people aren't calling me.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Now who I met in London who didn't you know
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: they were very nice, but they didn't know who I was.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And now now I'm getting the phone calls.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So what happened after he's on the email? And also
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: like how many times did you read the email before
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you said it? Because sometimes I do like a twelve,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: like a cycle of twelve and then I'm like, okay,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: this is good to go.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I forgot, you know. I think I.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Remember being so sure that this was the right marriage
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: of sorts, you know, Pelton, myself and Pelton, that I
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: just pres sent. I was brazen. I was just like,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: this is my these these are my people mm hmm,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: or at least this is my vision. Like wow, like
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: on a global scale, I can it can be involved
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: in the technology company that produces fitness.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: This is amazing. So yeah, it happened pretty quickly.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I email John Pollie and I was in the office
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: what we used to call the closet.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Where we produce.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: We produce our very first cycling episodes. Within five days,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I was the third instructor hired.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, and you are hired within five days. Like it
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, nice to meet you, Let's do this. Yes, wow, Yeah,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: it was it like a pinch me moment.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Pinch me, Yeah, for sure, but also it was still
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: it was very scrappy, so it wasn't like walking into
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: this glossy thing. And I felt everyone anyone who's still
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: the company, who was with us then believed and still believes.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: And I was literally just telling John this morning when
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: we were at the Treade Experiential event, I'm like, not
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: only do we like drink the kool Aid, we like
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: we're making the kool aid, Like we believe in this stuff.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: And I do believe that Peloton is gonna be the
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: greatest fitness brand in the world.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: All right, So at that time, we're like so far
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: away from where the brand is now. So what I
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: would love for you to do, just for people that
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: might not be familiar with the Peloton brand, is talk
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: a little bit about what the Peloton brand used to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: offer and what they've added to the brand since.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: So when you signed on, it was cycling. Yes, so
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: it was a cycling So we sell hardware, which.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Is a bike equipped with a beautiful screen that streams
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: live and on demand classes from our New York City
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: studio fourteen hours a day of live programming and tune
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: out gosh ten thousand plus classes on demand of Spin
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: of spin classes, and we've now since launched our tread
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: which has boot camp classes running only classes a combination
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: of the two. And we have floor we have stretching,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: we have warm Upe, we have cool Down, we have yoga,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: we have it's a one step shop at this point.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And on digital, Pelton Digital also launched and now with
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the Pelton App, our members can access that content from anywhere.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: And so can you have just a Peloton Digital membership
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: without owning any of the Peloton equipment.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and a lot of a lot of It's it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: cool for now.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Like people who do not have either the financial means
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: or access to a bike or a tread, they can
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: still work out with me around the world.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm I'm happy that that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Digital family is being built because that's that's access. You
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: can just jump on the app and you don't you
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: don't ever have to buy.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: The hardware, although we'd love you too. I'm sure. I'm sure.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: So when you started, like, did you have any concept
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: of exactly like how big that this brand was going
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to grow? I mean, and you knew obviously that eventually
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: you would be in homes quote unquote around the country,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: But did you anticipate this.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, Yes I did, because I'm a
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: dreamer and a hustler and this company is comprised of
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: dreamers who are willing to work.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Their asses off.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So I knew not in the ways you never know
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: the path. The path to success is absolutely circuitous. But
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: you know, if you're climbing a mountain, you're get up
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: to that mountaintop. And the analogy I use is that
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: we are we're building, We're literally building the path to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the Emerald City as we're walking to the Emerald City and.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Then people join us.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: And truly, like that Wizard of Oz, analogy is like
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I'm building the yellow brick Road and I'm okay with that.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with building the yellowriick road because my we
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: are getting there. So yeah, I did believe that we
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: would get to this point, and I believe we're going
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: to get.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Far, far, further, far further.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Can you remember some of those early interactions you had
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: with at home writers and for people that are following
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a lot, obviously to know is that there is the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: New York City studio on twenty third Street for the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: bike and then the Tread Studio, which is down in
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the West Village technically the best pillage yep one fifty Christter. Okay,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: So there's the tread studio in the West Village, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: so there are rids and runners in the studio, but
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: then there are also the people at home. It's probably
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: a lot to handle, like handling and managing that in class. Ye,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: making sure that you feel like no one's neglected at home.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Did that take you a little while to kind of
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: figure out, like how to balance the two of them.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I mean absolutely, I would probably cringe if I if
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I saw footage of my very first classes. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: we were all evolving. If we didn't, we wouldn't see
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: where we are. Teaching at Pelton is truly the hardest
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: job of instruction within the fitness industry period And that's
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: why it's a very small bullseye in recruiting our team,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: and I really feel like we recruit, we're recruiting like
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: a team of the Avengers or like superheroes, you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: where each person is kind of bringing their own flavor
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: in their own point of view and their own training
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: style and esthetic conversation and musical stylings.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And that I'm very, very proud of that because It's super.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Hard to find people who can negotiate not only the fitness,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: credibility and authenticity, but look amazing doing it, working out
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the entire time that we walk the walk, we run.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: The run, we cycle, we bike the bike.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: You know, it's real what we're doing up there, but
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: it's what's even more real are the relationships that we
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: have with our members, you know, hundreds of thousands around
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: You said something that I think is really interesting in
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the like we look great doing it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's stressful.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: As someone who was for a long time and instructor
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: herself and kind of took a step back recently, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: was stressed out a little bit, feeling like I maybe
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: had to look a certain way or wanted to present
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: myself in a certain way for the people that were
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: coming to take my class.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Does that ever weigh on you when you're up there.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would be lying if I
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: didn't have a constant awareness of the visual conversation I
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: am having with the world. I mean when you are
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: in and I think honestly a lot of people are
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: feeling this simply just because you always have a camera
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: in your face, whether you're literally in front of five
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: cameras like you are at Peloton, or whether it's just
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: your iPhone or your cell phone or your camera.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Or you know, your computer. I wrestle with that too.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I think everybody does.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm happy that you bring that up because it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I want to be honest with people who then will
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: go to my Instagram and be like, comment, how do
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I get those abs?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: How do I get that?
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: And say, I work out four hours a day and
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: my job is literally to be healthy and.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Lead by example.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I don't expect everyone to have the same results if
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: they're not putting in the same amount of time. That's
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: important for people to understand is that we can unlock
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: potential in you, but you can't expect the same results
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: as someone who's literally.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Just putting in their entire life's work into this. How
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: do you keep that mental conversation healthy?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: And I guess also I mean, like wall working out
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: four hours a day, like keeping like a reasonable expectation
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of what you're foremant should be because recovery has to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: be a big piece of this.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: So I guess there's two questions here.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: The first part is how do you keep the mental
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: dialogue and like, maybe body positivity a part of your
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: whole shtick here, because it's got to be a big
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: part of the conversation.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Well, thankfully there's been such it's been so buzzy.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Like thankfully that conversation has been buzzy at the time
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: when I selfishly have needed it, you know. So I
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: look at people who I really admire, like SHANEI we
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: were just talking about Shane Alexander, you know, like people
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: like that, like people who I get to work with
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: on the Adidas Women and Creator Network, who are just
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: standing in their power in whatever like way that means
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and whatever shape size story that unfolds. And it's important
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: for me to see examples of that because we all
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: have that little inner hater and it's so loud. But thankfully,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: my biggest way to exercise that muscle of willpower and
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: discipline and self love has always been movement. So I
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: usually I can quiet it by joining a class or
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: having a run, where that's my reset fund. So when
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm not thinking about how I'm looking. When
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm feeling the run, right, So when I'm lifting,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, gosh, I'm so strong. I don't care how
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: big my thighs are, they are powerful, and so that
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: that really really helps.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: That's my tool for sure.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: An interesting thought that I've been having a lot lately
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: is we are the people that talk to ourselves the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: most every single day. So like, would I talk to
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: you the way that I talk to myself? Like sometimes yeah,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: but sometimes no, Like I wouldn't say like what the
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: hell are you wearing right now?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Or what? Like I would never say that to someone else.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I tell people, you know, when they ask what's
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: your biggest race day what's your biggest piece of race
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: day advice? I say, talk to yourself like you would
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: have loved one I asked somebody in class the other day,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: or ask the members if your inner thoughts are on
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: a loudspeaker right.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Now, would you be proud of them? That ability to.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Coach yourself is so important, and I think especially when
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you have young young eyes and young ears paying attention,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: like parents really need to pay attention what they're saying
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: to the saying out loud about themselves when their kids
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: are watching. Thankfully, my mother and father showed such amazing
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: examples of strength and confidence and resilience growing up that
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: that has been a through line throughout my entire life.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: But like, we can really be leading examples of positivity
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: and it all starts with the voice in our head
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So what is your go to piece of advice for
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: someone who's ready to get started but doesn't even know
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: how to begin.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I would say two things. No goal is too small.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: We tend to hear or perceive overnight success stories like
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the person who lost three hundred pounds or like the amazing,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: and it's like amazing, They're incredibly inspiring, but it's daunting
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: to look at someone who's already who started their race
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: at a different start line and now you're looking at
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: their finish line and you're thinking, damn, how do I
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: do that?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: So I would say no goal was too small.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I think keeping keeping goals like specific and measurable. You
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: know that acadym smart, specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, and time bound.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: That that is essential and honestly, that is how I
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: live my life, like, it's not just I'll have like
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: weekly goals, monthly goals, six month goals, five year goals,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: and that that makes it more palatable and digestible. So
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: start with one small thing you don't have to do
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: an overhaul of your entire fridge and your schedule and
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: your sleep time.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And it's like start with one thing. Maybe tomorrow you
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: just go to bed a little earlier, and then you
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: do that in the.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Next dent, you know, like unpacked, how to set yourself
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: up for success. We are so so tough on ourselves
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: specific to running, and I would I would say, go
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: out in minutes, not miles. Don't worry about like all
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: the technology. Just get a pay of running shoes and
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: a sports bra and like, go for ten minutes. You
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: got this girl, people. That's why I wrote my book.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I wanted to demystify the entire running experience. It's like
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: you can just shut up and run, just go do it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: To say it is intimidating. I do get that, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I was intimidated at first as well. But if you
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: lace up for five and then ten and then fifteen minutes,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: your life will change.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: You get that. I hear that. I totally hear that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I definitely do.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I think the sheer act of starting is what prevents
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: so many people from doing it in the first place.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: But you realize it's like a band aid, whether it's
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a run, or it's asking for a meeting, or it's
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: sending that email to John Foley, or whatever the case
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: may be. It's today, I'm going to rip off the
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: band aid. Yeah, and then look at all the other
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: band aids you're able to rip off everywhere else in
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: your life, and you'll see that it's magical.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, truly magical.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: They're paralyzed by fear, and I always I think you
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: have to act it out, not figure it out.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: All the time.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: There are only somebody lists in books and podcasts, and like,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: let's not just do it, just go and do the thing,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: because there is only so much planning before action just
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: has to take over.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I've got to ask you, then, so what is one
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: of the goals on like maybe your month list?
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm trying to say, really committed to one
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: day completely off a week.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I love that goal. I think it's really hard. I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: think it's kind of intimidating.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: In the wellness industry, especially in New York City, it's
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: like we all offer this advice for people like not
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: to overtrain, and now, especially as recovery is becoming more
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and more buzzy, we're like, you've got to recover, you've
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: got a fair gun, you've got a phone, blah blah
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: blah blah. But it's like then I'm watching you on
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Instagram and you're on our four of your workout, and
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, practice what you preach?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Women?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Like what do you do it? And I you know
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: my name. My rhetoric is often like just go and
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: more and hustle. And I believe that and I live that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: But more is not always more, and I'll take and
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: you know, and you know with the long runs for
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: marathons and all this stuff. And I'm not complaining, but
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: it's like, I definitely overtrained. I would not advise people
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to do necessarily when I do, but this.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Is my job and I love it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: But there are days when I'm like, ugh, do I
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: do what's in my training schedule? Or do I actually
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: sleep and rest? Because I know that's the advice I
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: would get to somebody else. I'm trying to create very
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: strict guardrails around my sundays.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Hang out with my fiance? Like planning my wedding, you know,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: just like little breathing. You know, I find that I
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: can talk about wellness and ease and all these things,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: but I'm not necessarily always feeling that, So I know
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: how to tune into the conversation verbally. But how the
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: hell am I feeling physically? No, I'm probably like literally
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: physically running from here to a spin class, which I am,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: and then it's going to my own training session, and
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: then it's going to do another interview, and then it's
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: teaching another class, and then I'm collapsing. I'm doing it
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: again tomorrow, and it's like the adrenaline keeps me going,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: but I have to create the same guardrails around my
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: rest that I would advise someone else to do.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Usually people have issues ramping up. I have issues ramping down.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I feel you. I'm the exact same way.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You have an opportunity tomorrow. You here, you get the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: tip the inside scoop. Instagram's going away tomorrow, and if
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: it goes away, you have a chance to leave one
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: more piece of epic shit on your Instagram, like one
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: last thing that you want your community, your people to
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: read every single day.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: What do you tell them? I would say to ask themselves,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: why not me? Why not me? Why not you? Why
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: not you to get that job?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Why not you to have that amazing partner, Why not
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: you to get paid what you should be worth?
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Why not you?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: I think we tend to see other people's success stories
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: as somebody else's success story. And the moment I started
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: asking why not me? Is really when everything that was
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: the tipping point. So that's what I would submit to
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: your listeners.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: The last thing and then the last thing real talk.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: You have a chance right now looking back on that
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: twenty year old on Second Avenue and you get the
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: opportunity to offer her at her hurdle moment one.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Piece of advice.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: What is the thing that you tell your twenty year
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: old self now looking back on.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: It, I would say, trust your struggle because you will
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: have the ability to turn pain into power.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I love it. Robin, Thank you so much for coming
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: in here today. Thank you so so fun, so fun.
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  Speaker 1: Robin, Where did they find you? Where do they find Peloton?
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  Speaker 1: Give me the whole scoop.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: So at one, Peloton one, peloton dot com, and at
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  Speaker 3: robin NYC thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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