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  Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Welcome everybody to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of the Season with Peter Schreger. We are now entering, Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: what is this week eleven?
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  Speaker 2: We're entering We just finished ten and we're going into
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  Speaker 2: week eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the season is flying by. On Sunday
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  Speaker 1: there were five games decided in the final seconds by
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  Speaker 1: a field goal attempt, and on Monday night there was
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  Speaker 1: another one. I am Peter Schrager. I am your host
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  Speaker 1: of this podcast. I picked Sean Payton to be the
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  Speaker 1: NFL's Coach of the Year before the season, I picked
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos to make the playoffs. The Broncos were one
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  Speaker 1: and five at one point, having lost to the Jets
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  Speaker 1: at home, and then very quietly they beat the Packers,
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  Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs. The trade deadline arrives, they don't
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  Speaker 1: trade off Patrick's tan, they don't trade off Portland Sutton,
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  Speaker 1: they don't trade off Jerry Judy, they don't trade anyone.
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  Speaker 1: And they just quietly sit there and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna play. And then they beat the Buffalo Bills,
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  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos are four and five, folks, So that's
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos. But as we're recording this, we just got
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  Speaker 1: news that a former guest of the season with Peter Schuger,
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  Speaker 1: when things were looking a little better and the sky
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  Speaker 1: was the limit, Ken Dorsey, has been fired by the
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And Aaron Wan Kaufman, as my dear friend,
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  Speaker 1: my partner in crime on this podcast, as my producer,
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  Speaker 1: and as a diehard Buffalo Bills fan, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you the floor. Ken Dorsey season on the brink,
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  Speaker 1: fired after a week ten loss on Monday Night? Does
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  Speaker 1: that change things? What is the status of the Bills
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  Speaker 1: fan As we are just getting this information, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think Bill's fans are confused and have been confused because
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  Speaker 2: they've been calling for Dorsey's head for weeks. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think there have been a lot of games where
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  Speaker 2: it seems like the offense should be doing a lot better,
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  Speaker 2: and for all the injuries the defense has suffered, like
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  Speaker 2: the offense should still be doing well. And I mean
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  Speaker 2: last night I actually thought with Tavius Murray was running well.
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  Speaker 2: James Cook got benched, but he came back in with
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  Speaker 2: a vengeance, and like Cook, and Kincaid were doing a ton,
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  Speaker 2: don't I don't know. I don't know if this fixes anything.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what this does to the offense. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what they do. I don't know how they
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  Speaker 2: recapture the magic of the day ball offense two years ago. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. This is rough. It's a rough last
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  Speaker 2: night and then a rough day to day. And to
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  Speaker 2: think that they're gonna have to install something new in
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  Speaker 2: a week and play the Jets a really tough defense
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  Speaker 2: that they already lost to is horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, item and it seems fresh, and yet you can't
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  Speaker 1: be shocked considering the offense. It takes such a step back.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't been the same offense since twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: if we're being honest. You know, Brian Dabole and Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen had that miracle season. Allen was unbelievable finished I
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  Speaker 1: believe second in the MVP last year. Took a step back, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of us said, well, they
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  Speaker 1: were rolling, and then the DeMar Hamlin thing happened, and
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  Speaker 1: the travel issues happened and it was just too much
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  Speaker 1: to overcome. Well, it never has gotten going this year,
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  Speaker 1: so Dorsey. It's his job. He loses his job, and
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  Speaker 1: that's a shame. I like Ken, He'll be okay, he'll
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  Speaker 1: figure something out. But as of last year, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking in January, he was interviewing for head coaching jobs.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the NFL, and that's what we do in
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  Speaker 1: the season. We try to track you through the lives
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  Speaker 1: of these coaches and just how turbulent it really is.
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  Speaker 1: In January he was interviewing to be the head coach
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  Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panthers, and we are now in November
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  Speaker 1: and he has fired and out of work. That is
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  Speaker 1: a wild ride, and yet it is not uncommon in
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  Speaker 1: the world. That is the NFL. As we go to
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  Speaker 1: the Bills, I will say Von Miller was one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars signing. Didn't see much of him
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  Speaker 1: last night. Gabe Davis, I've been hearing about as a
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  Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. Didn't see much of him last night.
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  Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs was not tearing it up last night. And
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  Speaker 1: you could blame the coaching and the coach did just
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  Speaker 1: lose his job and he's got to go back to
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  Speaker 1: his wife and kids and say, hey, we're out of work.
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  Speaker 1: We got to figure something out. I think everyone now
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  Speaker 1: this is a call to arms, and it's say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're five and five. If the playoffs were today, we
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  Speaker 1: are out of this thing. We're not a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: And Aaron, I'm not sure if he looked at the schedule.
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  Speaker 1: They play the Jets, yes, but then the schedule gets
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  Speaker 1: really crazy. They play the Eagles, Okay, then they have
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  Speaker 1: a bye and they play the Chiefs and then they
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  Speaker 1: play the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: Your thoughts, it's so it looks so bleak.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, as frustrated as you are, and as like I
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  Speaker 1: live with a Ravens fan. She happens to be my wife.
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  Speaker 1: Parents have been season ticket holders of the Baltimore Ravens
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  Speaker 1: since they moved back to Baltimore. My father in law
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  Speaker 1: has never missed a Baltimore Super Bowl, going back to
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine when he went to the Orange Bowl
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  Speaker 1: to see the Colts play the Jets. In person, I
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  Speaker 1: think Ravens fans at seven to three might be even
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  Speaker 1: more frustrated than Bills fans at five and five. The
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  Speaker 1: Ravens have the craziest season right now, where they absolutely
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  Speaker 1: trash opponents, they blow them out and they have three losses,
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  Speaker 1: and all three of those losses have been inexplicable fourth
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  Speaker 1: quarter collapses against the Steelers, the Colts, and then this
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  Speaker 1: most recent one against the Browns at home, where there
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  Speaker 1: are fourteen points in the fourth quarter and they somehow
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  Speaker 1: give the game away even with the Browns missed extra point.
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  Speaker 1: The stat that we gave on Good Morning Football yesterday
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  Speaker 1: that my producer Rich Goldberg came to me in the
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  Speaker 1: morning was like, you gotta go with this. Of the
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  Speaker 1: top five teams to have the most time spent with
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  Speaker 1: a lead through ten games in a season, five four
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  Speaker 1: of those teams were ten and oh and went to
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The fifth is the seven and three
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, meaning they have led by they have led
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  Speaker 1: every game, and they have led the most amount of
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  Speaker 1: time in not only this NFL season, but one of
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  Speaker 1: the top five seasons of all time. And yet they're
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  Speaker 1: not ten and oh, they're not nine to one, they're
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  Speaker 1: not eighting two, they're seven and three. They lose in
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  Speaker 1: the end. So which we had the conversation and today
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  Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football is like, well, the good in
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  Speaker 1: that is that like you're in it till the very end,
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  Speaker 1: and that like you could tighten that up. The bad
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  Speaker 1: in that is that, well, why can't you close? Why
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  Speaker 1: can't you close? And this goes back not only Lamar
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  Speaker 1: but Harball questions. And you know, I had my friend
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  Speaker 1: Jeremy on in the offseason who was a blistering take
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  Speaker 1: on the Ravens and how this whole decade since they
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  Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl and beat the forty nine
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  Speaker 1: ers in twenty thirteen, this whole decade has just been
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  Speaker 1: one missed opportunity after another. And he points to the
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  Speaker 1: coach a lot of times in the GM, Well, they're
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  Speaker 1: seven and three, and they're in first place in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways in the AFC. Now, of course the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs and then we'll figure it out as far as
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  Speaker 1: tiebreakers go when it's all said and done. But like
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens to not be eight and one or nine
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  Speaker 1: and one right now, that's a great disappointment. So it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like you have these two teams that everyone was
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  Speaker 1: high on. Then you have the Bengals, who last week
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  Speaker 1: were all crowning Louenn and Rumo comes on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about how this guy's going to be the
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  Speaker 1: next head coach of the NFL. Well, they're five and
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  Speaker 1: four out of the playoff all right now, which leads
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  Speaker 1: to an AFC team. I'd like to talk about Aaron
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  Speaker 1: the Houston freaking Texans five and four. If the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: were to start today, the Houston Texans would be in
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  Speaker 1: the dance. CJ. Stroud has been amazing. He's got every
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  Speaker 1: record you can imagine as far as rookie quarterbacks go
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  Speaker 1: throughout their first ten weeks of an NFL season. He's
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  Speaker 1: steady Eddy. He does not waiver. And for the second
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  Speaker 1: straight week, we had his GM on last week Nick Cassario,
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  Speaker 1: go find the podcast episode. It was exquisite. It was wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: Nick was great. He was even better this week. He
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  Speaker 1: was even better than last week. He threw four to
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  Speaker 1: seventy and five touchdowns. This one he threw a bad
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  Speaker 1: pick and then bounced back, which I love. Throws the
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  Speaker 1: bad pick. Bengals Cameron Taylor Britt takes it all the
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  Speaker 1: way back, They hold them, they get a field goal.
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  Speaker 1: It makes it a tie game. And he's got to
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  Speaker 1: go eighty yards and somehow some way win this thing.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what, he goes drives him the whole length
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  Speaker 1: of the field, they kick the field goal to win it,
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  Speaker 1: and they walk off champions of the game after beating
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  Speaker 1: a very good, red hot Cincinnati Bengals team in the jungle,
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  Speaker 1: which is a really hard place to play. I was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to question, do I think their contenders? I say yes,
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  Speaker 1: because they're in the dance right now. But also it's
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  Speaker 1: not just rookie quarterback, first year coach, rookie wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: and electricity with all this new young energy. The guys
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  Speaker 1: on that team, Shaq Griffin has played in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of big games. Shaq Mason's played in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: big games. Robert Woods has played in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: big games. Sheldon Rankins has played in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: big games. Jerry Hughes on that team, Jerry Hughes on
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  Speaker 1: the Colts with like Peyton mana like Jerry Hughes has
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  Speaker 1: been in big games. They have veterans all over the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're thinking about an org chart, and you're
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily thinking about a football team, but you're thinking
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  Speaker 1: about a company, and they're different departments. You've got hr,
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  Speaker 1: you've got accounting, like they have young superstars that are
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  Speaker 1: the equivalent of the Ivy League guys that are coming
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  Speaker 1: right out of college with their great NBAS, but they
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  Speaker 1: also have guys who've worked with the company and worked
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  Speaker 1: at other very successful companies for five years, six years,
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  Speaker 1: seven years. I love the fact that Tank Dell and
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  Speaker 1: Nico Collins have Robert Woods in that room. I love
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  Speaker 1: the fact that CJ. Stroud comes out after practice and
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  Speaker 1: he talks to case Keenum, who played an NFC championship game.
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  Speaker 1: Love what Houston's doing, and I don't think it's a fluke.
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  Speaker 1: They're out playing teams and their defenses gone from a
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  Speaker 1: historically bad defense from last year to being one of
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  Speaker 1: the best in the league this year.
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  Speaker 2: Question for you about the Texans, Yeah, do you think
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  Speaker 2: this is kind of a hot take? Do you think
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  Speaker 2: they could win out their schedule?
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  Speaker 1: Storry Bill Simmons, We're not We're not a been Bill
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  Speaker 1: Simmons right here. This is very cousin salon. Bill Simmons.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the All NBA third
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  Speaker 1: point card next?
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  Speaker 3: We can.
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  Speaker 1: It's only five weeks. It's only five weeks into the
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  Speaker 1: NBA season.
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  Speaker 3: We can.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud exists on your Nbay. Yeah, but they have Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: this week, they have Jags, the week after.
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  Speaker 1: That's a huge one.
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They already beat the Jags once, right.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Broncos and then at Jets, at Titans
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  Speaker 2: against the Browns that's the Christmas Eve, that's the big one,
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  Speaker 2: and then Titans and then it Colts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they can do it.
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  Speaker 2: That's I was not expecting from talking about, like the
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  Speaker 2: Bills schedule that looks so bleak and dour. The Texans
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  Speaker 2: have a nice end of season run. What's coming up?
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  Speaker 2: I think?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know why I love doing this podcast with you?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: You just dropped the word dour, bleaking dour? Is that
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  Speaker 1: a word? Do you mean? Dire? Is dour a word?
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  Speaker 1: Let's google that. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get down relentlessly severe, stern or in manner or appearance?
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  Speaker 1: The hell yes, Bro, that's the perfect word. All right.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills have a dour schedule. The Texans. What's an
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: antonym to Dower? Type in antonym dower? What do we get?
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  Speaker 2: I want to find the most exciting one.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to We don't want a thesaurus. We
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  Speaker 1: don't need that.
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  Speaker 2: We want an antonym the Houston gentle pleasant.
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  Speaker 1: I like gentle Houston Texans have a gentle schedule coming up.
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  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. H I love the NFL. It's wide open.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone had the Texans or the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks ago, and here we are
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  Speaker 1: and another team that I don't think anyone was like
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  Speaker 1: legitimately considering as like a team, the Indianapolis culture very quietly.
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  Speaker 1: Five and five they beat a terrible Patriots team in Germany,
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  Speaker 1: and they're right there. I had a rare Sunday off.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Fox sent uh the Fox NFL Sunday Show, the
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  Speaker 1: Big Dogs, Kurt Gronk and Strahan and Howie Long and
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson and Glazer. They sent them to the Air
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  Speaker 1: Force Academy. As an annual tradition, they go to a
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  Speaker 1: different veteran spot, whether it be West Point or the
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  Speaker 1: Naval Academy or a military base overseas. This year they
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  Speaker 1: went to the Air Force Academy. Grounk jumped out of
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  Speaker 1: a plane and was live for the jumping in. It
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  Speaker 1: was actually great television. It was fantastic. But I got
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  Speaker 1: a chance to sit on my ass and watch TV
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  Speaker 1: like most Americans do. And I gotta tell you guys
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  Speaker 1: got it pretty good. That one o'clock window was unbelievable,
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  Speaker 1: all these games coming down to the wire at the end,
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  Speaker 1: Brown's Ravens Bengals. And then I'm like, all right, so
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  Speaker 1: what do people do after that one o'clock window ends?
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  Speaker 1: They probably use the four o'clock window. And then the
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  Speaker 1: Lions Charger starts, and you're like, all right, we're another
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  Speaker 1: shootout and Seahawks commanders, and then right into the Sunday
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  Speaker 1: night game. The NFL is in a great place, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the primetime games that are coming up
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  Speaker 1: this week. Could you bring those up real quick on
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  Speaker 1: the schedule, because I think a month of oh, I
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  Speaker 1: would have circled this week and been like it's forgettable.
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  Speaker 1: But Thursday night we have Bengals at Ravens, both teams
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  Speaker 1: on the brink right now coming off bad losses. The
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  Speaker 1: what's the Sunday night game? I think it's Vikings versus Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: which suddenly becomes an awesome game. And then Monday Night
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  Speaker 1: is Eagles Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, yeah, this is it's this week in particular, I
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  Speaker 2: think is going to be just three back to back
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  Speaker 2: great night games.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. And then we have the Thanksgiving slate. We're there, baby,
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  Speaker 1: We're there. We turned the corner quickly. Some other news
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  Speaker 1: and notes. I read another book, Henry Winkler's memoir.
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  Speaker 2: Oh the Fun The Fonds.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say, out of a five, if Stamos was a
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  Speaker 1: five out of five, Winkler's a four out of five.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, still pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Winkler a lot of daddy issues, goes deep into it.
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  Speaker 1: It's got some stuff with the dad. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: that going in. Wink just a wonderful soul. Talks about
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  Speaker 1: his career going and kind of in a rut post
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  Speaker 1: Happy Days, trying to figure out he was a producer
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  Speaker 1: on mcguiver. Did you know that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, I was actually as you were talking about him,
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to think. But obviously Fonds is like
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  Speaker 2: a cultural touch point, and I was like, what is
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  Speaker 2: the next thing I remember him in besides Arrested Development.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give it to you water Boy. He plays the
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  Speaker 1: coach Adam Sandler like saved his career. Adam Sandler puts
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  Speaker 1: him in the water Boy. He's also a night shift
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  Speaker 1: which is interesting, which I loved with Michael Keaton in
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  Speaker 1: the early ages. Is Ron Howard's like first major studio film,
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  Speaker 1: and Ron Howard of course worked with him as Richie Cunningham.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, in the height of Happy Days, he's
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  Speaker 1: doing Night Shift, a movie he's like, you know, before
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  Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox was doing Family Ties and Back to
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  Speaker 1: the Future and all the other movies that he was in.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of like Winkler. But then he has
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  Speaker 1: this long rut and like it's it's very frustrating for him,
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  Speaker 1: and his wife is just like super supportive but also
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  Speaker 1: like you are a complete narcissist, and then he has
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  Speaker 1: to pull himself out of it. Sandler throws him a
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  Speaker 1: few boks. He does come of that stuff, and then
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  Speaker 1: you're right arrested development. But then the big one is Barry,
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  Speaker 1: where forty years after being nominated for an Emmy for
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  Speaker 1: his role as the Fawns, he wins for his role
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  Speaker 1: on Barry and it's like this cool, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a Hollywood life story that this is a nice
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  Speaker 1: guy from New York City who you know, was banging around.
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  Speaker 1: He went to Yale for a grad degree in acting,
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  Speaker 1: like was a real thespian, and they got typecasted as
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  Speaker 1: the Fawns and then had to crawl out of that
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  Speaker 1: over thirty forty years and then gets it. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a really good book. I think it's great for
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  Speaker 1: a plane ride. As you know, I'm listening to audio
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  Speaker 1: books to and from to and from now. Our dear
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: friend Paul Rudd and I were talking name drop, Paul
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  Speaker 1: Rudd tells me last night at the Beacon Theater, he
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  Speaker 1: was moderating an interview session with Geeddy Lee, the musician
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  Speaker 1: from the band Rush, and because of his connection from you,
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  Speaker 1: I Love You man like he's considered like, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: he's like he had to read the book to like
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  Speaker 1: front cover to cover, and then he moderated an hour
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  Speaker 1: long panel session which is gonna be online of Paul
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  Speaker 1: Rudd interviewing Geddy Lee at the Beacon Theater, which sounds incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I do have a regret from last weekend. I was around.
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  Speaker 1: It was New York Comedy week. I didn't get to
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: see any comedy. But Bill Burr performed, Sam Murrill performed
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: in New York, Tim Dillon performed. They all were out
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: here in New York, and of course I wasn't. I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't there, all right, my phones ran because that's Mark
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Dalton from the Cardinals. We've got an awesome guest coming
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: right up. Let's get him on as we speak. This
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: is Drew Petsing, who's the offensive coordinator of the Arizona Cardinals.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: It had been eleven months since we had seen Kyler
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Murray on a football field, and there on third and ten,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: with the game on the line against a good Atlanta
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Falcons defense, Kyler Murray did Kyler Murray things, and I
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: think a nation a sigh of relief knowing that not
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: only was Kyler back, but that the Cardinals were on
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the right track. And his offensive coordinator with this new
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: coaching staff is a guy that I've been hearing about
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: for years. It's one of the bright young offensive mines
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: in the league, and I'm thrilled to have him on
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the season with Peter Schrager. Mister Drew Petsing, Welcome to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the show, my man.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate Peter.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, man, Dude, I love your story, I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: love everything I've heard about you. But I'll be candid.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: We don't have this great personal friendship goes back ten years.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I've just been hearing about you for a really long time.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: As we head in towards week eleven, you're feeling about
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the state of this quarterback position with Kyler now on
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the field and you could finally run your offense with
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray at the switch.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting, I think, you know, certainly last you
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: know what two days ago. Last weekend was a big step,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: you know, first time back on the field for him.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: The emotions, the reality, the stress, the physical aspect of it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: So it was exciting. It was stressful.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I thought he handled it really well and it was
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: great to see him go out and perform like that
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: because I know he capable of it. You know, certainly
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: when you go through an injury like that. The process
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: that he had to go to to put himself back
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: on the field, learn a new offense, you know, get
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to know his teammates while not really playing for the
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: offseason in training camp was really excited for him and
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: for us, and it was a lot of fun. You know.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: The rap on Kyler going into the seasons, well, is
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he going to be around? Is he going to be invested?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: We don't know. How everything I've heard to him, Man,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: this guy has been unbelievable in the building. While rehabbing.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: What's been your impression of Kyler Murray just a few
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: months into working with him, since he got there back
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: in January.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you just hit on it. It was
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: impressive really from the get go. I mean to watch
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the way that he attacked rehab. You know, I tore
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: my ICL my sophomore year of college. I know what
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that rehab is like. Certainly, not at that level when
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: it's your job, it's your career, it's your livelihood. So
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: to just to watch the way he approached every day
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: in the training room on the field as he started
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: to get running again and then at the same time
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: learning a new system, learning a new language, learning a
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: new way of doing things, and he had to juggle
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: both of those in a very small amount of time.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And I thought he just did it with really such
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: convict in such focus and such drive.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: So it was it was fun to be a part
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: of it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Do you see stuff in practice? I know we saw
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that play on third and ten, and he played really
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: well on Sunday, But do you see stuff in practice
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that you're like, all right, I've coached a lot of quarterbacks,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: but this guy does that not a lot to do.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, when you get a guy of that
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: talent level. It's a couple times a day and no
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: matter even the little things where you're just you might
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: it might be a RVA period or warm ups where
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: you just kind of your head snatch, like in the
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: world was that? Because he does he does so many
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: things that very few people can do and does it
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: at such a high level consistently.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: It's impressive to walk.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And did you think he would he would be
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: able to, you know, get the kitchen sinc thrown at
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: him in that first week. I didn't know if it
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: was gonna be like, here's five play, here's the Techmo offense,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you got four plays, Kyler, just don't hurt yourself. It
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: felt like, you guys, do the kitchen sink at him,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and he was able to do it in one hundred
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: percent full till we did.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: We really held nothing back. Honestly, A lot of that
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: was his confidence to me, you know, so like I
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: kind of went into it, especially in the off season
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: we're building it, just saying like, all right, let's see
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: what he can handle. Let's see what because realistically, you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: you look at it and I said this to some
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: people last week, what a offenses look like the first
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: week of preseason, when they've had three months to get ready,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: two weeks of nothing but practice, it's sloppy. Then when
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: it's eleven starters that have been together and doing it
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: for months. I mean this guy basically did for three weeks,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you know, physically, So that was my mindset. But he
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: kind of assured me the entire time. He's like, believe me,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: when I hit the field, I will be ready. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: can handle it. Don't worry about it. And he never
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: swayed from that message. So it gave me the confidence
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: to say, hey, he feels good about it. You watch
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: him do it in practice. He handled it well, you
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: know during the week, So we really we really didn't
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: hold a lot back.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: I thought he handled it really well.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Now, before he got there, you had Dobbs, he had
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Clayton Tune, Like was he involved in the week two
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: week game? And I think a lot of the questions
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: about Kyler is how invested is he with the you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Monday to Saturday stuff. Was he there helping them game
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: plan and kind of learning the playbook and getting it down.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean he in the meeting room, he's asking questions,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: he's engaging with the other guys in that room. He's
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: he learned a ton from their reps, listening to the
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: questions they asked, watch their process in terms of how
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Dobbs prepared, how Clayton prepared, the things that you know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: especially Clayton as a rookie, he might give him a
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: little piece of advice and say, hey, like, I see
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: why you're seeing it this way, this is how I
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: think about it. And it was fun to see that development,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: that growth in his game and as a teammate. And
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I think he helped the guys in that room, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I think he also grew a lot from watching them
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: do it and learn the offense.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: And talk through some of the stuff that we went through.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Dude, I watched this Cardinals team, and I know you
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: guys only have two and it's not like you guys
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: are like the seventy six Steelers of the eighty five Bears.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I get it, But gosh, is there not a team
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in the league that fights harder and seems to have
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: more fun and goes out there and plays like we
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: know that the talent necessarily isn't you know, the greatest
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: show on turfor but your boys are playing like what's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the vibe there in Arizona that every week, no one
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: has packed it in. If anything, the team is getting
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: better as the season goes on.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's really been our focus since we got
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: here in April, when the first day the players showed up.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: It's our goal is to get better every day, regardless
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: of outcome, regardless of score. Are you individually improving at
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: your job and coaching, playing organizationally? Are we doing the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: things to make sure we're moving in the right direction, win, lose,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: And I think that's the important thing. Like we came
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: in on Monday after the win on Sunday, it wasn't
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: any different than the week before after the Cleveland game.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: It is, Hey, we won the game because we did
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: these things well, we could have lost the game.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Because we need to improve in these areas. That's the focus.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Continue to play at a high level, continue to play
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: your asshole from an effort perspective, and we're going to
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: end up where we want to be and it's going
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: to take time. You know, it's not an overnight fix
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: when it's good or bad, and there's always room for improvement.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I love your story personally. You're in your mid thirties,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you're one of the youngest play callers in the NFL.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Gannon's a defensive coach. Obviously, you guys come in, but
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: like you played in high school, you're the captain of
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: your team. You go to Middlebury, which I think of
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: historically as a lacrosse school if I'm being honest, like
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that's a big lacrosse school. You're you're there, You're playing
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: defensive back. You get your career caught short by an injury.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: And now, look, you're not an Alabama, ohiouse state. You're
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: at Middlebury and you still say, hey, I'm going to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: pursue a life in football. When you hurt yourself and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you couldn't play football anymore in college and you're at
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: middle Bay. Are you a D three school? How do
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you keep focused? How do you stay committed and say no, no, no,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: but my football dream isn't necessarily over here. Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I think I had a lot of really good people
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: around me. I relied heavily on coach Ritter. You know
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: my father, you know people that I was close with
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: because the game has been has always been so important
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: to me. I love the sport, I love the scheme,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I love the relationships you build, just the whole process
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: of what football brings to your life. So when it
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: got taken from me, I missed it and it really
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: kind of like put me in a funk, like and
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: not that I lost a piece of my identity, but
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I really didn't have a direction, didn't know what I
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: wanted to do. And coach Ritter, who is the head
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: coach at the time, he just retired last year. You know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, can I help out? Can I stay
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: around the game? Can I help coach? It's something I
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: might be interested in. And he actually played with my father,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: so he was like, I would love to let you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: help out. He goes, but if you're a grade slip
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: at all, your dad is going to murder me.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: He's like, so, just where did you grow up, Drew?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Are you Massachusetts guy?
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: When I was seven?
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: So it grew up just outside Boston and Wellesley, Massachusetts
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: and lived there most of my childhood. And so my
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: first year I volunteered in the fall. My junior year
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: didn't play, helped out on defense because I played safety
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and just like fell in love with it, like you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a D three school. I think there was seven guys
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: on staff. Yeah, like as an eighth guy, you got
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: to be very involved. Like I was doing breakdowns, I
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: got to coach, I was helping film practice, I was
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: doing film exchanges and just loved it. And then that
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: summer I did a business program at Dartmouth, the Tough
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Business Bridge Program, and it was like an intensive business
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: course to look at finance and court.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You know, all tell me you're a Buddy Steven's disciple
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: as well, are you?
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: No, I'm not.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: It was strictly from a school perspective, but it was
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: that contrast of like, all right, I could do this,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: and I could go into banking or finance or you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: or I could coach football. And I'm like, God, that
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: fall of football was one hundred times more enjoyable. And
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, and if you can make money doing this,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I'm doing this. So it was kind of just put
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: all the eggs in that basket. Try to start to
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: meet people and get connected with people in different areas.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Learn everything I could from a coaching perspective, and I
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: was very fortunate in my career early to be around
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: some great people that grew me, developed me, invested in me,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and taught me a lot about the business and helped
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: me with some great opportunity.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So you see a light, you see football, you see joy.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Your first gig was in two thousand and nine. You
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: were a volunteer student assistant at Harvard. How does that happen?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: And what was that role?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was kind of like, so, as I said,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: so volunteer my junior year.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: I actually had enough credits.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't take any classes my senior year, and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: was going to volunteer and they had an open position,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: so they ended up paying. I was a senior in college,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: living off campus and not taking classes.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Coaching football. It was like the truly the like. It
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: was the dreat like it it was the best.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And and when school was coming to a close, it
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: was like, all right, I gotta start talking to people.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I got to find my next job. I want to
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: stay in football. I want to make this work. And
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I just started kind of using the small connections I had.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: And a family friend, Ben Bloom, who's the D line
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: coach now with the Browns, was an assistant D line
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: coach at Harvard from Wellesley, so from my hometown, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I kind of he was one of the guys I
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: reached out to and he goes, hey, you know funny
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: you called, he goes. We were talking to staff meeting
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: this morning. We're looking for an unpaid intern. You're not
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: going to make any money, but it's a great foot
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: in the door. And I kind of feel like coach,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: you know, Murphy, who's still at Harvard, would let me
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: have pretty big say on who we bring in. Are
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: you interested? I said, if the job's there, I'll like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I'm there tomorrow.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And so I went down there for the spring game
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: and met those guys, and then literally I graduated on Sunday.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I drove home Monday. I was in a staff meeting
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Tuesday morning and worked there that first season, unpaid on defense,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: and it was all, I mean, the amount of football
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I learned, what I got exposed to, it was. It
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: was awesome.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: It's funny because Middlebury, if the listeners at home don't
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: like you go to I'm in We're in lowerman he
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you go to Wall Street. Every other person is Harvard, Yale, Middlebury,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: like all these and you could have had that walk.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You could have walked that walk. You're like, no football.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: You go to b C to be an assistant, then
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you end up at Yale. I imagine Middlebury, BC Yale, Harvard,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: You're collecting people in your lives that, yes, football, but
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: some of the most interesting people in the world who
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: are doing some crazy, big things right now.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, as you said. And then mostly the players, the students.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I mean it was like I remember talking to some
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: of the guys as they were graduated at Harvard and
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the opportunities they were just you know, I was unpaid
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and they're deciding to do I have this six figure
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: job with this bonus. I'm like, that money doesn't seem
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: real to me. I don't like the mind blowing to me.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: The opportunities those guys had, obviously because of who they
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: are and what they were a part of.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And but yeah, it was.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: It was. It was really great to get exposed to
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: those type people on so many different areas, so many
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: different levels.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen, an NFL gig opens up your four years
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: into coaching and it's an intern with the operation side
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. How does that come a bit
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: come to me? And was that Mike Petton? Was that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan? What team was that?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: So? Rob Chazinski was the head coach Chud it was
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: his first year. I'd never been in the NFL. I really,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I still don't exactly know, because I didn't know anybody
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: in the building.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: I believe Alex Shriner was the president.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: He'd just come over from Dallas, and Chud wanted to
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: hire those that New England position of like that. They
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: called it twenty for twenty, like you work twenty hours
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: a day, yep, for twenty grand the entire year.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: And but he never the Ravens. The Ravens do like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: an actual ceremony about their twenty twenty guys. I'm always like, guys,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: all right, sure, but there's like a long trichdition of
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: all those Ravens front office guys. They all walked that walk.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so and so they'd never had done it before.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: So I think what happened was, you know, Aleck had
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: just come from Dallas, where they had done the position.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: Chud had never done it. So Alex was like, Hey,
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: call a couple of these guys.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: And the guys that had done it at Dallas, Ben Bloom,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Dave Borgonzi, now with the Bears, were guys that I
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: worked with at Harvard when I was unpaid, And so
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: they called these guys and said, hey, what did you
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: make what did you do?
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: What was your role?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: And they kind of answered the question said, hey, if
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: you're looking for a guy, there's a guy Yale who
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: would be a great candidate.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: I'm sure he'd love the opportunity. He'd give him a call.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: So I kind of got a call out of the blue,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, like absolutely, They're like, hey, look,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a big pay cut because I Yale,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I had my first position job, I was hitting my
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: own hair job, I was coaching the outside linebackers, was
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: recruiting the West Coast, actually recruited Foyer Olakun.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Like he could be Yale killing it for the Jaguars.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Love watching him play because obviously got close with him
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: through the recruiting process. And I was like absolutely, like NFL,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: if it's an opportunity, I'd love to take it, Like
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: don't really care what the role is, Like, let me
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: in the building and I'll figure it out.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: And went through the process.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: It was kind of a wild and I got snowed
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: in out there for like three days during my interview,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: and on the third day, Chud was like, well at
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: this point, you basically just work here the job, So yeah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and then kind of the rest was history. And at
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: that point I'd really only been on defense, Like I
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: played safety, played linebacker. Coach TV's at Middlebury, was a
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: defensive jay at Boston College, and so my first week there,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Ray Horton was the defensive coordinator. I put his playbook
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: into visio from PowerPoint. I was like, I'm on defense.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: And then Norv just like started yelling my name down
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the hallway for random things like he'd want coffee or
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: a cut up, or he'd want to talk about something
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: he saw on social media, and like before the OTA started,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: He's like, now you're on offense now.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: And I was like, okay, I'm on offense here.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm working with North Turner, hall of fame coach
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: who you know, Troy ik Vin swear Spy, Okay.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he was, I mean, I can't. I could
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: go on about him.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: For I love North too.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: One of the best, right, absolute best person coach. I mean,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I probably owe ninety five percent of my career to
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: that guy. But just like he just took me under
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: his wing, put me on offense, sat in the you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: they let me move around that first off season. I
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: jumped in the tight end room the receiver room, the
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: O line room, and then when the season started, I
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: was in the quarterback room with Norvin Chaine Steichen, who
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: was a quality control coach at the time. Yeah, I
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: mean it was wild. It was a quick transition. But
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: those guys really they grew me as a coach. I
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: mean I'd never been on offense. I never called to
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: play in it. For me, like it was all new
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: to me, and they gave me the opportunity to learn
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: it and be a part of it, and obviously very
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: thankful for that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: All Right, you're in your twenties. I assume at this
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: time you're single. You've got just like take me wherever
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I got to go to do this job. The Minnesota
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Vikings calling, you're there for an extended amount of time.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Who brought you to Minnesota was at NorVa.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: So yeah, And I can't say I was single because
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: my wife would get really mad at if she say, no,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: you're good.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: We were no, here's five.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: It was like that's part of the hilarious, Like we
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: were long distance and so like I was moving and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: she's like, what in the world are you doing? And
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: what do you do? Then do Yeah, like when I
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: got snowed in in Cleveland. She was coming to visit me.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: She stayed in the I don't know if you remember
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: that massive storm we got in twenty twelve or twenty thirteen,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Like they had tanks through the streets of New Haven
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: because you couldn't get anywhere. Yeah, he got stuck in
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: my apartment.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: I never saw her. She I got back before she
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: had to go back.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I mean it was yeah, so I was the one
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: few honey.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we were when we got let go in Cleveland.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Uh No, I just stuck around him like until someone
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: literally kicks me.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Out of the.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Showing up of like I'll be operations, I'll be scouting,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I'll be coaching, like whatever it takes.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Not to interrupt. But that's what Sala said. He was
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: with Houston, and I guess Koobiak got fired. Dom Caper's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: got fired, and Sala was like, no one told me
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a job. So I just showed up
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the next day and like Kubiak's like, who are you Okay?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You're on the staff, Like it works that way at
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the lowest level.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, And you know, so I was picking guys up
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: from the airport.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I was grabbing dinners like I delivered dinner to Mike
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Petton one night because he had just got you know,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: after a couple of weeks he got hired.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: I think he thought she thought I was the delivery guy.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm down the hall. I'm just in operations.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: If you need anybody, I'll be there. I can do
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: whatever you need. And uh, Norma got the job in
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Minnesota and and ended up having an opportunity. It was,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: you know, it was again it would be a longer
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: story than we probably have time for, but almost ended
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: up in Dallas.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Ben Bloom was in Dallas and they had a similar role.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: But Norvid kind of told me, hey, whatever you do,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you don't take a job without calling me.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously I'm gonna do right by you.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: So when Dallas called, I was on the phone with
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Jason Garrett and he said, hey, we want to fly
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: out for an interview for this indor position.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Ben talk really highly of you think could be a
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: great fit.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, I don't. I mean I
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: don't have a job. So like I'm there, I'll go
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: to play tomorrow. And I said Jason, I just nor
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: you know, really, you know, made me promise him wouldn't
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: take a job without calling him, like are you okay
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: if I call nor, which you know I was taking
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a leap of faith there, but
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Jason played for North and loved North, and so Jason
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: was like, absolutely, give norm a call.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: You got to do right by him, like let me
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: know what he says.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: So, in like a thirty minute process, was on the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: phone with Jason called nor and Norrah's like, nope, you're
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: coming to Minnesota Rix film and the gym is.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Going to call you in ten minutes.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: You got a job.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: We'll get you out here this week.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: And I was like I went from like unemployment to
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: like two opportunities in twenty minutes and then had to
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: call Jason back. I was like, hey, Jason, I'm sorry,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I'm going to Minnesota with NORV Like
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I didn't really think it was gonna happen like that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: This is my first time through the process.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And Jason was awesome, very understanding, but it was it
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: was a whirlin so yeah, one year and then ended
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: up in Minnesota there in twenty fourteen, and.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: You're there for a bit. Is zim the coach when
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you're there as the head coach.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: It was Zim's first year in twenty fourteen, Norri's first year.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, I've.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: Told the story.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I got picked up at the airport to go sign
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: my contract and meet everybody. And the guy that I
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: got picked up, you know, and Opscott picked us up
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: was me. Jonathan Gannon and Evan Marcus all got picked
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: up in the car together. I didn't know any of
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: those guys at the time and worked together with them
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: for four years and stayed there in Minnesota for six.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Who the wide outs you're working with, because I look
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: at your that position group legendary history. Yet there might
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: have been some lulls as far as big name was.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: It was post Moss, post Carter, pri Jefferson, so Feeling
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Jerris right who were dealing with.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: When I first got there. So I was in the
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: running back room my first year with Kirbie Wilson. He
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: had Adrian Peterson, we drafted Jack McKinnon, We had Jerome
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: felt and playing full back. And then the second year
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I moved into the whiteout room. Jerryus was still there.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Greg Jennings I believe left the second year, Cordell Patterson,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Charles Johnson, we drafted Diggs and was still on the
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: practice squad at that time. Wow, and then stayed in that,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: you know, and then my three years in that room
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: as an assistant, feeling became feeling obviously Diggs became Digs,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you had, you know, one
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: of the best receiver rooms in the NFL.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Again, Uh, just by nature of those two players.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Give me a good dig story that would sum up
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: young Stefan dis because he's a fifth round pick. He's
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: not a guy in a first round calibers some of
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: these other guys. And yet since he got on the field,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he's been making places.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: And I think that his work ethic and his love
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: of the game of football and his just desire to
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: be great was unbelievable, Like I can.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: Remember, And it was one of those I can't remember.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: It was after practice, like we were not in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: building or like as players, like we weren't on the field,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: and you walk in the indoor and the dude has
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: a like full lather, looks like he's been running one
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty routes, and to the point where like
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: almost happened so consistently we had to stop we're like, dude,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: you're gonna hurt yourself, like you're overworking, like you need
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: to slow down. And he was just one of those
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: guys like every time, as you said, every time he
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: touched the field, it was kind of those head turning
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: moments where you're like who was Like who was the
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: run that route? Like he just killed the top corner
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: scout team, Like he made unbelievable catch, and it was
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: like over and over and over again at the point
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: where like we got to put this guy on the field,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: like because he was inactive for his first four or
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: five games I remember, and then somebody got hurt.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: And he hit the field.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I think his first game was in Denver, the year
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: they had the year they won the Super Bowl. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: would have been the year they won the Super Bowl
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: with all the fifteen with Talib and Chris Harris and
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: they had another really good corner and Jackson maybe and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: him and Dealing like went off like I think BIG's
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: had one hundred yards at Denver and it was like,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: all right, he's not giving this job back, like he's
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: the guy, Like it's very clear.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: That Minnesota miracle where were you take us take us through?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: It was wild. I mean, I you know, it's you
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: never say the game's over. But a guy fell close
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, the ball goes up and you're like,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: all right, you know when he caught it and he
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: ran the ends on the place went nuts. But in
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: the booth, you're always like, is a flag down? He
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: didn't how much time is left? So like I don't
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: think we like nobody moved for a good like thirty
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: seconds to a minute as we kind of process what happened.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: And then once everything was like it was, I mean,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: it went it was like complete pandemonium, chaos. Like I
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: was down on the field by the time we took
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the knee on the two point play.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: I think, well, they brought everyone back.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, Thomas Morriston had to come back.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, Like I still get the chills when
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I see highlights of that player think about like it's
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: just it was such a cool moment to be a
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: part of, and I mean obviously unbelievable play on so
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: many levels.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I imagine you go as Stefanski because I see your
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: next job and the resume as you go to Cleveland
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Stefanski gets the head gig
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Does he call you up and say, Drew,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I need you buddy.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I worked with Kevin for nine years,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: so we were together six in Minnesota and three in Cleveland.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Developed a great relationship with him. He was one of
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: those guys who brought me under his wing. And you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: he had a young coach, got his first position job
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: there in Minnesota when I got there, and and just
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: taught me so much about the game, how to coach,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: how to develop relationship with the players, the big picture
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: of the NFL. And so when he got that opportunity
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: and Zim was willing to let me have that opportunity
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: to go with him, I was special. You know, I
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: have a ton of respect for him and obviously oh
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: so much to him. So it was fun to be
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: a part of his first time doing it, running the show,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: being in charge. It was awesome. All right.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Now, take us you go to Arizona with Gannon. Obviously
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: you had a history with him. Take us to the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs roller coaster before the season. I know you're
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: obviously intimately involved because of the Cleveland thing, and we'll
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: wrap shortly, but I got to hear how Dobbs ends
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: up in Arizona and you had to play some sort
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: of role because he was in Cleveland with you too.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I certainly had a relationship with him.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: MANI our GM had him the last couple of games
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: there in Tennessee, and I think it's one of those
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: things that as an organization, we're always going to try
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: to make the team better in any little thing we
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: can do from a roster perspective in terms of the
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: way we operate. So it was like my job, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I said this to it, was like, Hey, everybody in
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: that room, my job is to get you ready to
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: start in the NFL. And I think Moni came to
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: me somewhere during the you know, the end of training game,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: say hey, I think this is an opportunity that may
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: be available to us. What are your thoughts on it?
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: How do you feel about the person the player? How
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: long will it take to get him ready if this
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: is the move? And I just kind of broke it down.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I said, look, the language is going to be early similar.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: He's an extremely smart player, so I don't think there's
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: going to be like a long runway certainly.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: Here the pros what he brings to the team here.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Obviously some of the issues of bringing him in ten
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: days before the season, but if that's the decision that
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: we choose an organization to think this gives us the
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: best chance, I know we can make it work. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: MONI did a great job and has done a great
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: job since I've been here, always trying to improve the
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: roster and always trying to make us competitive. So it's
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: it was one of those things he thought it was
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: best for the team. I certainly was on board, with
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: A JG obviously a big part of that. And he
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: got in here and hit the ground running very quickly,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: and kudos to him because that's not an easy task.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was unbelievable in itself. And then he
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: has a second chapter already with Minnesota. Have you reached
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: out to him at all and just said, hey, bro,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: like I'm watching, like I know their rivals, but it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: been unbelievable.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so, we like when we obviously last week
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: when we lost to Cleveland was his first game playing
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: checked the stat line texted him right away was so
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: far up from him, and it's so far. I love
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: watching him play, love the energy he brings. He's obviously
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: done a great job for them, and I think, you know,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: it really worked out for everybody. I think that's the
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: when when you can have a win win like that,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: it's it's always a good situation.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: All right. And now back to the Cardinals wrapping it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: up with this Kyler Honors back on the field, We've
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: got all these young wide receivers Ron Dill and of
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: course Marquis and then I'm loving what I'm seeing this
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: kid Michael Wilson, and then Trey McBride, the tight end
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: who took a little while in his career to get going,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: is now a real factor. So much young talent. And
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: then you have the number six overall pick in Johnson
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: playing well on offensive line like this. If you're a
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: viewer at home and you don't watch a lot of
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals football, what would be your message to them,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: but what they can expect for the second half of
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's where you hit on early. And
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: as we were talking, it's the effort and energy we
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: play with. I think that's got to be our calling card.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Is we have to outwork people, we have to out
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: effort people. We have to play with an energy and
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: an enthusiasm that people aren't either capable or willing to
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: match consistently, regardless score, regardless of outcome. So I think
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: that's what we want to have. The guys have fum
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: playing football and going out there and enjoying what they're
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: doing and doing at a high level, and I think
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: they're seeing that from the young guys in the locker room,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: really from everybody. I think the team's really embrace that attitude,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: that energy, and it's fun to be a part of
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and it keeps you competitive, it keeps you in games.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: And we got to do a little bit more and
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: a little bit better to win some of these games
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: and to turn the time. But I think everybody feels
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: like it is really close, and I think that's where
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the buying and the energy and the effort comes from.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: And we just got to keep it going.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And Kyler he's been his exceeded expectations from what it
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: sounds like.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been awesome.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I can't say enough about him as a player, as
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: a person, as a teammate.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: He's been extremely fun to work with.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I was so fired up for him and so proud
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: of him just to watch him go out there and
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: do what I know he's capable of, and certainly he
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: knows he's capable of, but it's always fun when you
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: get to put it on that stage.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Did you see the sky cam angle yet that they.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Did everything about it?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Obviously, that play was all coaching, right team. Everybody was sorry,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: good job by you.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: You told him do a pirouett and run.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I mean that's what he's I mean, he's so like
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: it was. It's unbelievable. I mean it's a game saving play.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I mean it's third and ten. To go make that
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: play in that situation, very few people were capable of
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: doing that. So it was just so fired up for him,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: for us obviously, and it was it was fun to
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: watch him go do that.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I end every interview with the same question, and it
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: was Nick Cassario was on last week and I said,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: if you were at the combine and a twenty something
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: year old guy comes up and he's got an ill fooded,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: ill fitting suit and he's got the Manila folder with
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: like a may but it's just like college accolades and says,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I want to get in the NFL, and you have
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: one elevator ride twenty seconds. Let's put yourself in that
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis situation. You got all the team gear on, you
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: got the Cardinals stuff, and you just happen to be
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in with a kid, and he kind of has the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: courage to ask, Hey, Drew, I know you're in your
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: mid thirties and I'm in my early twenties, but like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: what would be your one piece of advice for getting
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in the league.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, to be willing to do whatever it takes.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Be willing to take any opportunity, no matter how small,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: no matter what building it in, no matter what the
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: role is, and do a really good job at it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter what that role is, embrace it,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: be the best at it, and develop great relationships as
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: you go in that role. You know, the way that
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: you connect with people, the way that you interact with
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: any building that you get into, regardless of what they're
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: asking you do, I think is so important to your
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: overall goal.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Of getting into the NFL and continue to.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Make it true. This is awesome. Drew Petsing, offensive coordinator
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, fun young offense mid season. I
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: understand there's a million things you've got to be doing.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: You got to be in the lab cooking and getting
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Kyler going. But I so appreciate you taking twenty minutes
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to hop on the podcast. It's a real pleasure for Rostt.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, appreciate you guys. Thanks a lot for having me.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I was really juice to be on awesome stuff. Drew Pettsing,
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Cardinals. Good luck this weekend, man,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. I didn't know how he would take it.
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  Speaker 1: Drew Petsing's thirty four, Aaron thirty six? Isn't he thirty six?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I think he's thirty six.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I know he's younger than me. He's in his thirties,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: like super young.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty six.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very impressive.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I always love when, like a coach or a coordinator
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: comes from one side of the ball and then moves
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: to the other. True other than Matt Patricia, but other than.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: That, relate in life. I remember what back in the day,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the Eagles were rolling and they had a guy named
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Juan Castillo who was their offensive line. Coaches like peak
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid, like dream team Eagles, and then they moved
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: him the defensive coordinator, and like it does, sometimes doesn't work.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Drew was early enough in his career where he went
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: from defense to offense. You think about those mentors North
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Turner and then like Stefanski, I look at us a
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: peer because the fancy's my age. He's early forties and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he's like I really looked up to Stefanski, and it's like,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: there's young guns coming and thirty six years old. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: know mcveigh's thirty six as well, and you've got guys
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: who are in their thirties all across the league, but
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Drew's one of them. And I kind of liked the
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: fact he didn't He didn't necessarily play at Ohio State,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: he didn't play at Penn State. He was hurt his
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: sophomore year at Middlebury and was like, screw it, I'm
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: not giving this dream up. Drew pat sing that was cool.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if the Arizona Cardinals are
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the top of the conversation right now, but I thought
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: what they did on Sunday was awesome, beating the Falcons
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and seeing Kyler back. So I thought that was really cool,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and thank you for Drew for doing it and for
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals organization. Real quick way off topic, and you
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: could turn it off if you don't like the off
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: topic stuff. I won't be insulted. Travis Kelsey was in
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Argentina this weekend. He was in Germany. The weekend before that.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: He is on his by Max out with Taylor Swift
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: on Camroach was romantic and hot and steamy. She'd changed
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the lyrics songs Karma to talk about the Kans City
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Chiefs tight end. We're recording this on Tuesday. He's back
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City, he's back at practice, and we just
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: posed the question to Scott Pioli, the ex Kansas City
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Chiefs GM, what his thoughts were about a player going
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to Argentina, you know, and he answered it like I
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't think twice about it. It's Kelsey's thirty four. Like
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Scott's answer was right, He's earned it. Like whatever. The
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: fact that we asked it on Good Morning Football, We're
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: getting hundreds of tweets from Chiefs fans like super triggered,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: like how dare you question it? Like it's his off week?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Is that I think it's this story has been kind
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: of a rollercoaster, and now it's like Chiefs fans are
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: super defensive about it, even questioning it, and I think
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: people are looking at Kelsey and I know Bill Simmons's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: questioning like all right, even I on Monday's show was like,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: all right, say it. I went to Mexico for my
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: tie is one thing. Gosh, she was at Mahomes's charity
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: event on Thursdays in Argentina's week, like it is something
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: to track. I have no opinion on it. I love Travis,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: as I've mentioned multiple times here. We have a great
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: relationship and he's truly in love right now and it's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: cool and it hasn't stopped them. They're the first place team.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering when this thing turns and I see the
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: chief schedule gets complicated coming up, Aaron your thoughts and
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: he might attract the venom of the Taylor Swift hive,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: So I would be careful with what you say because
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: it's not just a Taylor Swift.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Time right, it's the Chief.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: It's more vocal, like f off, don't even question this love.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: And to just to be clear too, you're saying he's
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: in Germany the week before, he's in Germany for the game.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: He wasn't traveling. It's not like he was there to
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: see her concert and then went to Argentina. So he
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: was there for the game and then they have the
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: bye week again. Travis Kelsey is thirty four. He is
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: not first year quarterback whose team is struggling. I actually
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: have no problem with him going to Argentina to watch
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: the concert. I thought the video of him standing there,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's with her dad when when when the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: lyric is changed and it's like it doesn't register for
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: him right away and his dad, Oh my, I can't
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: believe I'm sitting here talking about it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: It was a.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Concert and his dad is like so excited for him.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like grabbing Travis. So I love that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: That was nice.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: And you know, we we hear all these stories about like, oh,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Taylor was at the Chiefs game and she had to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: get snuck out in the popcorn movie. Instead, this was
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: her running off stage. He's standing right there and she
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: embraces him. You know what, call me a sucker. And
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: this is like the one Harry met Sally moment. But
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I'm all for it. Great, good for him. I think
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: it's great.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: It was beautiful. I'm not kidding, like I loved it.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I thought it was beautiful and sweet and everything was
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: great about it. I hope they don't lose three straight
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and Kel's he starts like dropping past this man. It's
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: going well for now, dude, I love it. One more thing.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I got a call early this morning from my friend Chris,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: who listens to the podcast and says he does a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: four mile walk every morning, from like five to seven
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: walks around Manhattan. I think he's like in Central Park
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and he gets where he clears his head. And Aaron,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: he was ecstatic to share with me how much he enjoys,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: not me, not the music that we do, not the topics,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: not the guests. He's like, I love your co host.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's great. He's got a great demeanor, he's
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: got a great approach.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, use his words like dowur Yeah.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hell yeah, Aaron's the man. And he's like
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: from like the the non Shrigger part of Brooklyn, where
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where you live. And I love
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: that about you. You come in with a completely different viewpoint,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a completely different style. You're of a different generation, and gosh,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: you and I were making right here.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Dude, may Well. I appreciate it, and thank you to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: him too, And I mean, I uh that that just
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: makes me jealous that I didn't go for a nice
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: long walk this morning.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Doesn't It sounds great?
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  Speaker 2: Perfect.
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• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the most out of Kyler Murray that we've seen in
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  Speaker 1: twelve months because Kyler's been recovering from that ACL. I've
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  Speaker 1: been asked by a lot of this listeners over Twitter
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  Speaker 1: and over email whether we are going to be at
• 50:10
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  Speaker 1: have a word on that. We hope to be. If not,
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  Speaker 1: we will still do shows throughout the playoffs. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: say here the season with Peter Scheger with a shirtless
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Wang Kaufman running around the Vegas Strip, then going
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  Speaker 1: and performing karaoke, singing some song none of us have
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  Speaker 1: heard from a show tune from like Oklahoma is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be epic if we can get there.
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  Speaker 2: And then doing only Taylor Swift songs, replacing lyrics with
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelce.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly right, that's what, yeah, exactly right. And then you
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  Speaker 1: and I will go to like a club. We'll go
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  Speaker 1: to like Delilah, and it'll be like the hot Spot,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get paparazzi to take photos of us
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: walking amidst all the NFL celebrities and elites, and maybe
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Scott Swift will like wear a Chief slanyard and like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: kind of put his arm around the two of us.
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