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Is Jayson Tatum going to win MVP this year? Our NBA Awards & Predictions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: seventy four of the so called sports analyst Josh. How
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Feeling good? Getting two podcasts done in one day feels
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  Speaker 2: like it feels very productive. We did football this morning.
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  Speaker 2: But what are we doing right now? My favorite time
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  Speaker 2: of the year, Basketball season, baby, And you know what
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  Speaker 2: that means. The Spurs are back and we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: about We're gonna talk about basketball in this episode. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna do a little preview. Even though even though we're
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  Speaker 2: about four games deep into the season, we've been slacking,
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  Speaker 2: we know.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's still.
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  Speaker 2: Loud enough because it's an eighty two game season, so
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  Speaker 2: bear with us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still early. It's barely or it's barely gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a week of basketball next week, So so just
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  Speaker 1: pump the break, guys. We're we're still gonna be having
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  Speaker 1: these good takes. Also, it is basketball season, but also
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  Speaker 1: is part lay season. It also is part of season.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're on a heater right now. We're on
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  Speaker 2: a heater right now.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, actually, that's that's two days in a row. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: out of the friend group has won a parlay. It's
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  Speaker 1: about to be three next week.
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  Speaker 2: Tech, Well, technically I did a parlay for Justice and
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  Speaker 2: it hit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so what Justice did hit a parlay Saturday? So
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  Speaker 1: that's three days.
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  Speaker 3: Because of me.
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  Speaker 1: Because of me, we are on a heater right now.
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  Speaker 3: You know what.
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  Speaker 1: Clap it up, Clap it up. I'm on a heater.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's you know what it means.
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  Speaker 2: Derek Lively over in rebounds all the time. Scottie Barnes
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  Speaker 2: over and rebounds plus points all the time. Wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: as little. It's little, has it? Julian Champagne over one
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  Speaker 2: and a half three pointers every single time. You just
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  Speaker 2: gotta do your job and research baby football.
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  Speaker 3: We suck. Yeah, for the love of the game. We
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  Speaker 3: keep showing up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, you think if twenty eighteen, Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes would have would have gave up after that season
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  Speaker 2: of coming up short.
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  Speaker 3: No, you know what he did.
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  Speaker 2: He came back the next year and won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: If if Tim Duncan decided to retire after twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 2: because they lost the to the Miami Heat, it would
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  Speaker 2: have been all done. But you know what he did.
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  Speaker 2: He should have the next year and beat them for
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  Speaker 2: one and won an NBA Championship. So what are we
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  Speaker 2: gonna keep doing. We're just gonna keep showing up. We're
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  Speaker 2: just gonna keep showing up in basketball. This is where
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  Speaker 2: we eat, This is where we become rich, and this.
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  Speaker 3: Is where weyns. This is where we're gonna become those
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  Speaker 3: those dudes for real?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. So before we start,
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  Speaker 3: And go for ten on the next, on the next
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about just saying over here, giving ourselves
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  Speaker 1: bad luck after three days.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, We'll keep showing up because we'll keep shooting.
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  Speaker 1: We're like Dione Waiters, what was it. I'd rather be
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  Speaker 1: over twenty seven than then, oh, for three because I
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot, shoot, we just gotta do.
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  Speaker 1: buying it. But all of this, as far as right before,
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  Speaker 1: as far as parlays, let's talk some basketball here. That's
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  Speaker 1: just great to hear this is it's been since June.
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  Speaker 1: It's been yeah, June, that was the last time we
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  Speaker 1: talked basketball. So it's just good to finally happen. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna start with this Eastern Conference here. Last year
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  Speaker 1: the Celtics they pretty much done dominated regular season, then
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  Speaker 1: just pretty much clean sweep through the Eastern Conference. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I got a question before you give out your standings.
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  Speaker 1: Are the Celtics gonna do the same thing this year
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  Speaker 1: or is it gonna be a little bit different.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I still think they'll continue to be that dominant
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  Speaker 2: team in the regular season. I think they're gonna end
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  Speaker 2: up as the one seed. I think they they're just
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  Speaker 2: the most complete team in basketball, if we're being completely honest,
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  Speaker 2: I think from top to bottom that they have They
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  Speaker 2: have all the answers as of right now. They have
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  Speaker 2: star power, they have depth, they have defense, they have rebounding.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of like this, it's just the
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  Speaker 2: biggest saying in basketball, staying healthy. I get football is
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  Speaker 2: a big deal about staying healthy. But basketball it's a
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  Speaker 2: long season. It's it's a grinding season's back to backs, traveling,
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  Speaker 2: and then you play deep into June. So you start
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  Speaker 2: in October, play to June. That's a long season. It's
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  Speaker 2: just a matter of if this team can stay healthy,
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  Speaker 2: I expect I couldn't see them back to where they
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  Speaker 2: were last year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And not to mentioned, they're the greatest three pointed
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  Speaker 1: shooting team ever assembled in NBA history that statistically and
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  Speaker 1: improven from last year too.
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  Speaker 3: Who who who?
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  Speaker 1: If you have what? The twenty fourteen Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: Danny Green, Gary Gal, Marco Belinelli, Matt Bonnard, Boris dil Monogobi.
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  Speaker 3: Might I seem Danny Green?
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  Speaker 2: Come on, bro, Come on, Patty thinking Mills, Bro?
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  Speaker 3: Why for Barr?
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking all these foreigners versus these dudes. But hey,
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  Speaker 2: I guess stats we we are, we are stats people,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. So yeah, I can't. Hey, I can't argue,
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  Speaker 2: but getting stats, I can't. I can only make the
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  Speaker 2: best case of what I think is correct in life
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  Speaker 2: in a certain situation. But it's all right, it's all right.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also one set that I remember from the Celtics.
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  Speaker 1: So every time a team outshot the Celtics as far
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  Speaker 1: as three point attempts, they end up winning the game
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  Speaker 1: from from last year in the playoffs, so maybe that's
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  Speaker 1: a rescue for success. And so you have to shoot
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  Speaker 1: more than the Boston Celtics, but you have to make
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  Speaker 1: more threes in the Boston Celtics, which is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: hard to do. So I have them as a one
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  Speaker 1: seed as well. So I think that wasn't a surprise
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  Speaker 1: to anybody here. But this where it gets a little
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  Speaker 1: fun here as far as from the two seed, and
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  Speaker 1: then what you see, yeah, gets here gets a little dicey.
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  Speaker 1: There's been moves as far as the Knicks. They got
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  Speaker 1: car Anthony Towns, mckel bridges, the Bucks they come back
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  Speaker 1: another year, Calves they get better six to get Paul George,
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  Speaker 1: then a couple pieces Magic growing another year Pacers after
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  Speaker 1: making Eastern Conference Finals. So who's your next few spots
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  Speaker 1: right here for you, Josh.
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  Speaker 2: Let me set up my computer real quick, all right?
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  Speaker 2: You want me to go one by one? Or are
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  Speaker 2: we going like two?
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  Speaker 1: And then you go go to to the play and
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  Speaker 1: so two to six, two to six, Okay?
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  Speaker 2: At number two, I have the Orlando Magic. And it's
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  Speaker 2: very surprising. I know that's gonna be one of the
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  Speaker 2: more surprising picks of why I have them so high,
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  Speaker 2: But I believe in the Orlando Magic. I think defensively,
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  Speaker 2: they're one of the most sound teams in the entire NBA.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's much teams that play better defense
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  Speaker 2: than the Orlando Magic besides maybe the team that is
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  Speaker 2: above them, and that is the Boston Celtics and probably
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  Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder. And I just think they have
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  Speaker 2: all the pieces around with a good defensive team. They
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  Speaker 2: have Jonathan Isaac, who actually Wimby set himself is the
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  Speaker 2: best defender in the NBA. So I'm just the second
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  Speaker 2: best defender in the NBA the state, which is big
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  Speaker 2: praise from Wimby and then, and I just think Franz Wagner,
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  Speaker 2: the brothers, they Wagner, they know how to get the
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  Speaker 2: job done on Jalen Suggs is very athletic and he
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  Speaker 2: can guard really any wing in the entire NBA. So
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  Speaker 2: it's just they have the weapons glower defensively. But also
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  Speaker 2: the emerging is a Paulo Benchero. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into it. Yeah, we'll get into it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit later about Paulo a little bit more, but
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  Speaker 2: I think he emerges that he's about to have this
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  Speaker 2: season going into a year three, year three, he's gonna.
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  Speaker 1: It's your two, year two, it's your two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going into Yeah, that's crazy going
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  Speaker 2: no to you're.
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  Speaker 1: For real, Yeah, it's year two.
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  Speaker 3: Wait was he drafted last year?
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  Speaker 1: You're year three? Those three?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this year three. I was like, no, Womby was
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  Speaker 2: drafted number one overall last year. I was like, hold on, no,
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  Speaker 2: Paulo going.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, don't give me, don't get me started.
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  Speaker 2: Bro Okay, So Paulo going into year three, I think
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  Speaker 2: that we're gonna see a significant jump from his play.
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  Speaker 2: I think, and we're cheating because we've already seen a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. But you had a game the other night,
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  Speaker 2: thirty five points, thirty seven points in the first halff
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  Speaker 2: so and then kind of he kind of slowed down
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  Speaker 2: a little bit in the second. But in year three
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  Speaker 2: that's dominance and he's playing like I'm not saying he's
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  Speaker 2: Lebron James, but he has Lebron james S type of
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  Speaker 2: play where he uses his body very quite well. Because
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  Speaker 2: he's a he's bigger compared to most to most people,
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  Speaker 2: and athletic and he's he's using it very well. So
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  Speaker 2: I think having them at number two is very suitable
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: I never said one more New York Yes, and I
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  Speaker 1: think the actually one more thing about Apolo so one
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  Speaker 1: thing that I liked about Poulo like you were saying
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  Speaker 1: that other day in the fourth quarter, you know how
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  Speaker 1: usually star players they go to their superpower, as far
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  Speaker 1: as Jokici goes to the post, Giannis goes to the post,
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  Speaker 1: Luka Donciz goes for a step back or pick and roll,
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  Speaker 1: Polo Bancaro, he's shut or he shut down defensively. Pascal
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  Speaker 1: Siakam and he went to the rack, like you were saying,
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  Speaker 1: because he's this physical specimen, so not only is he dominating,
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  Speaker 1: but he knows exactly what's doing those bright moments. But
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no, he's stepping up for real. At number three.
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  Speaker 2: I have the New York Knicks. I think the I
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  Speaker 2: think the acquisition of Carl Anthony Towns is gonna take
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  Speaker 2: a little bit for them to kind of get it,
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  Speaker 2: get comfortable with within real game play, but I think
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  Speaker 2: it's eventually gonna come come through. And I think having
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  Speaker 2: the team that they have, the roster they already have,
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  Speaker 2: is gonna help out quite a bit. We have the
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  Speaker 2: guys like with Jaylen Brunton, who I expected for sure
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  Speaker 2: being the m v P race towards the end of
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  Speaker 2: the season. Uh, they have a good they have a
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  Speaker 2: good secondary group led by Miles McBride. Right now, they
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  Speaker 2: still have oh my gosh, my mind just went blank.
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  Speaker 2: They just they traded for him last year. It's freaking name.
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  Speaker 2: What's name? Am I tripping right now? I'm looking there's
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  Speaker 2: Allegy I just went from They traded from me from
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  Speaker 2: OG They have o G they still have on this team.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know why I freaking went I went
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  Speaker 2: completely blank, but no, they they definitely have the roster.
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  Speaker 2: They played deep into playoff basketball. They showed last year
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  Speaker 2: that they can that they can do it playing hero ball,
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  Speaker 2: but this year it's not gonna be that same case.
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  Speaker 2: I think with the Karl Anthony Towns on this team,
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  Speaker 2: so I think they're gonna take another step forward. It's
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  Speaker 2: just I think the magic right now their their defense
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  Speaker 2: and the Celtics being the Celtics has a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of an edge over the Knicks right now. And number four,
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  Speaker 2: I have the Cleveland Cavaliers. I mean, they have the talent.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we doubt the talent that they have
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  Speaker 2: on that team. Darius Garland, Evan Mobley, Jared Allen, Donovan Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of them being able to put
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  Speaker 2: it together at the right moments, and I think last
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  Speaker 2: year they got hurt at the wrong times in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Darius Garland kind of took a step backwards scoring the basketball,
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  Speaker 2: but I think he mentioned it in the offseason and
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  Speaker 2: he fully expects himself to re emerge as the top
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  Speaker 2: scorer on this team, and I think he can do
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  Speaker 2: that and while being the passer that he is. And
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  Speaker 2: Evan Mobley. I just think Evan Mobley needs to take
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  Speaker 2: another step forward, and I think he has the talent
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  Speaker 2: to do it. He definitely has the potential to be
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  Speaker 2: one of the best big men in the entire NBA.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they do it this year. And I
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  Speaker 2: think the Cavs can make a run. It's just how
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  Speaker 2: how when it matters the most, can they put it together?
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's the that's the problem with the
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers. When it matters the most, maybe a team
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  Speaker 2: that steps up in the biggest moments and number five
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  Speaker 2: I had had, I had a strugg put in them
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  Speaker 2: right here. I think the seventy six ers is one
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  Speaker 2: of the bigger dark horses I think of the Eastern Conference.
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  Speaker 2: And not because we doubt the talent. I mean we
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  Speaker 2: know who's there. Paul George, Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxi, Kelly
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  Speaker 2: Oubre like these guys show up when they need to
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  Speaker 2: show up. It's just are they there? Like and mainly
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  Speaker 2: Joel Embiid, is he gonna be there when you need
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  Speaker 2: him to be? And I think there's already a big
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  Speaker 2: question about his health. He's even questioning his own health
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  Speaker 2: about playing No longer playing back to backs, and the
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  Speaker 2: NBA just find him. Find the seventy six ers this
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  Speaker 2: year regarding his health. So I think there's a big
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  Speaker 2: question mark regarding Joel Embiid, the former MVP, and if
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  Speaker 2: he's not available, this team can put any championship hopes
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  Speaker 2: out the back window. No alone make the playoffs. So
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  Speaker 2: because Tyre's maxis sure, Tyre's Maxley so far opening up
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  Speaker 2: the year is I think he broke the franchise record
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  Speaker 2: and shots shots attempted in the first three games of
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  Speaker 2: a seventy six er of the further seventy six ers history,
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  Speaker 2: So right now they're relying a lot upon him. It's
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  Speaker 2: just joelan beats the big question mark for the seventy
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  Speaker 2: six ers, and then at number six, I think the Bucks.
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  Speaker 2: I think this may be the bucks last run altogether.
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  Speaker 2: I I will say this, I think there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: a point where I'm sure you got the championship done,
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  Speaker 2: but the league is moving way past you. And and
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  Speaker 2: I think I think the honest Damian Lillard, some of
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  Speaker 2: the guys that they have around there, Chris Middleton, who
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  Speaker 2: have all been there. It's just these older guys are
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to figure out. I'm sure Giannis is still
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  Speaker 2: considered a young man in the NBA. He's not. He's
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  Speaker 2: not really old. I think he's around twenty eight years old.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty nine to twenty eight years old. Yeah, he How
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  Speaker 2: much longer is he gonna be? Patient? That's the question.
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  Speaker 2: How many how much longer are you gonna be? Is
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  Speaker 2: he gonna be able to do this? And I think
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  Speaker 2: this year they're gonna be for sure fighting for that
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  Speaker 2: playoff spot, but their defense is to be questioned. The
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  Speaker 2: interior is not their number brook Brook Lopez isn't the
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  Speaker 2: same guy he used to be, and then and then Giannis.
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  Speaker 2: Giannis can't do it all by himself. I say, I
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  Speaker 2: think Damian Lillard needs to be a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: consistent and being that the number two super star that
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  Speaker 2: they brought him in to be. But the role players
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  Speaker 2: around them really need to step up. So that's why
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  Speaker 2: I have them at number six and not as high
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  Speaker 2: as they usually are.
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  Speaker 1: So I just have mine a little bit different. They
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  Speaker 1: kind of or they do feature the same teams here,
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  Speaker 1: so obviously the Celtics one, I have the New York
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  Speaker 1: Knicks two, and I just think the New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: They could just outscore anybody in the Eastern Conference besides
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  Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. The only thing that I question with
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  Speaker 1: them is is when you play the Joel Embiid, you
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  Speaker 1: play the Giannis, you play these bigger teams, which is
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  Speaker 1: only two of them. That really concerned me because Karl
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Towns, yes, he is a big man, but after
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  Speaker 1: that you have Michel Bridges, Ogan Andobi. I know you
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  Speaker 1: have Mitchell Robinson, but you just have those guys. They
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  Speaker 1: don't match up well against it in my opinion, against
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  Speaker 1: Joel Embiid or Giannis. So that's my biggest thing. But
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  Speaker 1: as far as anybody else, they could outscore, and they're
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  Speaker 1: constructed to beat the Boston Celtics. That's what they are.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that as far as record wise, they
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  Speaker 1: were the two seed last year being banged up, so
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  Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna have a little bit better
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  Speaker 1: injury luck this year. I don't think OG's gonna get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna get hurt. I don't think that mckel Bridges.
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  Speaker 1: He usually stays healthy or he does stay healthy. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: Coronthony Towns did get hurt last year. Don't expect him
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  Speaker 1: to get hurt again. So yeah, there's actually pieces around
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson. He doesn't have to carry this entire offense here.
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  Speaker 2: It's not all on him.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And number three, I have the Cleveland Cavaliers, and
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I just can't put them any lower than the three
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: seed because they've been on pace every single year to
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: have fifty plus wins whenever Donovan Mitchell plays. And I
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: think Donovan Mitchell he's gonna play a lot more games
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: this year. And I just think, like you were saying,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: this team is full of talent, and I just think
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna finally put something together. I don't know
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: as far as in the playoffs. I feel like playoffs,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: especially in basketball, it's really matchup based. It's really who
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: you're facing up against. That's how or that's who you
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: know who's gonna be going to the next round. So
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: you can't really predict that. But number four, I have
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: the magic. I believe they were the four seed last
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: year two against the Cavaliers. Yeah, they were the force
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: of last year against the Cavaliers, and I think they're
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: gonna do the same thing. And again, that defense is nasty.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Paulo I expect another jump. It's just those top three teams.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I just can't see him above the five seed. I
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: have the Philadelphia seventy six ers here. I think that's
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: exact same as you. But there's Tyree s Mack see
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Paul George. I don't know when he's gonna be back
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: because a hyper extension of the knee.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Good thing.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing serious. Joel Embiid, like you were saying,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: as far as not playing back to backs, that's sixteen
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: games for him where they're not gonna play and they
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: struggled without Joel Embiid, so we're gonna see how that is.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: That's why I have them five. If Joel Ebiid did
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: play back to backs, I would see them around like
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the two to three seed, but that's not gonna happen.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Then the sixth seed, I have the Miami Heat here.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I think the Miami Heat. I feel like it's not
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: a major jump, but I just feel like they're gonna
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: start taking the regular season a lot more serious from
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: what they did last year. Usually they're an eight to
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: nine seed fighting for the play in and I just
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's gonna happen. And Jimmy Butler already
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: from the beginning of the season, because usually he's slower
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to start basketball or in the regular season the first
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a couple months. But you could tell he's not necessarily
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: on a different mission in playoff Jimmy mode yet, but
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: he's making an effort for to get a higher seed,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna happen. So yeah, But as
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: far as with the play in wise that goes from
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: seven to ten, I didn't mention this team right here.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna gohea anden list my seven seed I have
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: of the Milwaukee Bucks here, number seven. I just think
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: that they take a fall here. One of these teams,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: as far as the Sixers and the Bucks, in my opinion,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: are gonna take a fall down to the play and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the Bucks. And the main
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: reason why is they have again and we're able to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: see these first four games, but they have no defensive
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: identity as of right now. And you have those pieces,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you have Giannis, you have Brook Lopez, but you still
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: have no perimeterive defense. So that's the biggest problem. So
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you go in and list the rest of your playing
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: teams here.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my playing teams at number seven. I have the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers, and I don't think you're far off from
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: your statement that one of these teams is gonna fall.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have them five and six, and this
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think the Pacers are far off.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I think the Pacers definitely have the star in Tyre's Halliburn,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: but I think the role players are there, the guys
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that know how to do their job. Miles Turner is
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: a consistent big man down down in the post. Defensively
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: for sure, being one of the better defensive big men
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: in the entire NBA. But his offensive game is a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: little bit more refined than most because he's able to shoot,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: he's able to hit the mid range, he's able to
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: get to the basket, so he's kind of just a
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: do it all player. He's not great by any means,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: but he's still a good basketball player in the NBA.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: But I believe Pascal Siakam is a good compliment to
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Tyre's Halliburn. He knows what it takes to be in
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: big game situation to make big plays. I mean, we
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: saw it in the playoffs last year when he did
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: step up. I mean it didn't result to entirety and
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to success, but he had big moments in the playoffs
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: last year. And then I just think having players like
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Andrew Nimbar Benedict Mather and it's Unfortunatecy James Wiseman go down,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But those two guys alone, I think are great role
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: players for the Indiana Pacers to have because they can
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: when needed, they can take over games on their own offensively,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and they're getting that experience to be able to do that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: So that's why I have the Pacers at number seven.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Number eight, I have the Miami Heat, and it's just
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: more It's just more when are they going to turn
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: it on? Because the Miami Heat tend to like to
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: hold off a little bit, and I don't know if
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: it's by plan or if it's just the way the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: game works out. It takes a while for them to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: get into the group of basketball. But I think this
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Eastern Conference sure is not nowhere near the same talent
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: loaded as the West, but it's still a better conference
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: than it's been in a year's past. Yeah, So I
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: just think it's gonna be harder for the Heat to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: keep doing the same things they do every single season.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: They're gonna have to play consistent basketball throughout the entirety
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of the year, and that's just something we haven't seen yet.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Is Tyler Harrow gonna stay healthy? Is Jimmy Butler gonna
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: be super uber consistent, or is he gonna still have
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: a round that twenty two point per game mark? Is
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: he gonna step up and be a bigger player? And bam,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: bam bam. Does this thing defensively, There's no question about it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: But I just still feel like it's along the same
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: lines of a Jimmy Butler, where the inconsistencies offensively sometimes
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: outweigh the defensive presence of both those players. Yeah, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: then at number nine, I have the Atlanta Hawks. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: just think that from the rest of this list is
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: a lot more question marks than it is for sure.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of these are like I'll go
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: nine through Basically, I think nine through thirteen all these
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: teams could flip at any moment and I don't. And
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: so for me, I got the Hawks at number nine.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I think I trust Trey Young a little bit more.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And if Jalen Johnson, I'm a big Jalen Johnson, Guy
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Fonso thoses hid draft him, And yeah, so I think
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: he's a good do it all player in the NBA.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: It's just a matter off him staying healthy. And that's
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: the biggest question mark for Jalen Johnson, can you stay healthy?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And I think he can be a good complimentary piece
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: to the Atlanta Hawks, to the Atlanta Hawks team and
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Trey Young so and then it's just a matter of
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: seeing how their rookie can kind of pan out and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Zachary Zachary Rish's share if he can really pan out
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: into being a good player or just a good role
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: player in the NBA, because there's a lot of question
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: marks around this draft right now. So that's why the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Hawks I nine and number ten. I have the Charlotte Hornets,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and I think they have a good basis of a team.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I will say it's not this crazy good team, but
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: LaMelo's definitely there, don't.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite sold of LaMelo's a superstar, number one
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: option player in the NBA, just because we haven't seen
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: him in big game moments. But I think there's players
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: around that could probably suit him, like Trey Man. Trey
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Man's playing good to start this season so far, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: then a couple of others. So it's just I don't
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: know the Hornets the rest of this area. I think
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I kind of like the Bulls a little bit more
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: than the Hornets. Then I look at it only because
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen Kobe White play good.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: So I think I'll switch for.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: The flip the Bulls from eleven to ten just because
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I've seen Kobe White. It doesn't matter. I don't know
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the Zach Levine kind of holds his team back a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: little bit, and it's kind of not like it's not
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: a knock on the team. I think it's more of
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a knock on Zach Levine being as more ball dominant
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: when last year we saw success with Kobe White was
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the main scorer for this team.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, no for sure. So I'm gonna go and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: list my teams here. I have the Milwaukee Bucks seven.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: That's the big shocker. Like I said, I predict a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: downfall because that defense is not good no identity. I
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: already got into that a while back. Pacers. I do
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: have them eight as well, so we do agree, and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I have the Hawks and then I have the Hornets ten.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I do want to put the Chicago Bulls in the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: play in. I do want to, but the Bulls. Okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I could only give in depth analysis about the Bulls here.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: As far as these back half teams, I'm gonna be real,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'm a real biased podcaster. So the Bulls, it's all
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: about threes. It's all about are we gonna make our threes?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: With Lonzo Babo, he just got hurt. As far as
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Modest bouzelis, he was shaky, Josh Giddy shaky. But Kobe,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it all depends on Kobe White and Zach Lavine. Those
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: are the main two scores right there, in all honesty,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and then yes, you do have Vusvich, but it's just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it's just good pieces. But they're not meant to fit together.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So that's why they're gonna be the eleven seed. But
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I do expect to jump as far as with the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Hornets with LaMelo Ball on that team right there, because
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: we haven't really been able to see him play play
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a full season, and I think we'll finally be able
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to see that and how good he really can be
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: because he's in his fourth year. I believe, I believe,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: so yeah, his fourth year, so I feel like he
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: just has to prove something and he is a damn
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: good facilitator and not necessarily that he could shoot the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: three as good as Lonzo, but he has a respectable
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: jump shot, So that's why I have them ten hawks.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: They kind of always flip flop in the same area.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But I already mentioned the piss or the Bulls being eleven.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: As far as twelve through fifteen, I think it really
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter here in all honesty, but I have fist
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: since twelve, Raptors thirteen, Nets fourteen, Wizards fifteen. Do you
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: have along the same same lines as those.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Around the same I have Nets twelve, Raptors thirteen, Pistons fourteen,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and Wizards fifteen, so we're kind of in the same basis.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: It's just.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Scotty Barnes, I believe is a great player for the Raptors.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: It's just the team of round I don't trust. That's
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: that's the thing, and everyone else the Pistons has to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: get proven nets a bunch of role players on the team.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It's it's not there's no star that can really take over.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Nicholas Classon and Cam Thomas show a lot of promise,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: but I think they're better off shuited playing in a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: in ant on a contender as a solid player that
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: can elevate a team rather than a player that's the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: star of his own team, if that makes sense.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: So I got a question, do you believe in Kate
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Cunningham or no?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's just one of those until I see it, No,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you know, until until this team starts winning basketball game.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: It's just he's a good player. It's just.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Even individually, he hasn't been this great player like you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: like like a non bias aside like Wimby, not on
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a great team. But we've seen him to be a
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: great player on his own. And then if you even
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: look at Polo, we've seen Pablo will be a great
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: player on his own before the magic started getting going,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and then it just and A's and even if we
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: look at the that we've seen LaMelo be a great
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: player without his team getting going. So it's just there's
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: teams that are bad, their players stand out, and Kate
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: cutting out for me, hasn't stood out, and I.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Just feel like it sucks. He's been doing it so
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: far this year.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if you remember, even Shae the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: thunder he stood out.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But last year right before he got hurt. I don't
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: know if you remember he had that two three week
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: stretch where he was torching the whole league and then
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: he got hurt. He was out the rest of the year,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: so it looked like he was on that trajectory. So
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: so he just got that super max contract. Yeah, he
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: did get that super max contract. So so we'll we'll
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: see if he's worth it. But you want to go
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to move on to this Western Conference here?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: All right, So the Western Conference last year, it was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the entire blood bath. Nuggets they're the one seed, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the MAVs they ended up on top here and they
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: went to the or went to the finals here and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: four damn, the Yankees are up ten to four. Holy crap.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: G RBI double or what or little RBI single?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I know, but there it looks like it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be the same as far as what there was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: this Western Conference, the whole blood bath. But who do
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you think should be the favorites going into this season
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: as far as being the one seed.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's between two teams, and I think more
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I think I'm picking my one seed more off base
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: of what I've seen the first couple of games, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that's the Los Angeles Lakers. I think I've seen a
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: different type of play from the Los Angeles Lakers and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: we've seen in years past. It's more it's it looks
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: like fluid basketball instead of hero ball. Alone from Lebron James,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I think this team everyone's touching the ball every possession
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: at least, and they're they're setting the pick and roll
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: sets that they are running. It looks like pure basketball.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: From JJ Reddick and his coaching. And he's not only coaching.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: He's not only out there just giving plays and letting
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Lebron do his thing. No, he's out there actually coaching
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: this basketball team. He's out there making sure they do
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: what he wants them to do. And I think I
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: think that's gonna be an elevating, elevating step for the
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers that they haven't had in years past,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: where Lebron is really the one running the show rather
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: than the coach. Well, this year, I think it's the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: coach and Lebron listening. I that's kind of a weird
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: thing to say, but it's a I think it's the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: truth this year, and that's why I have the Lakers
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: number one. But who should be the favorite as number
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: one is who I have at number two, and that's
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder. I think based off last year,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: we saw what kind of great team they could be.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: They fill up, they felt short, but I just think
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: it was just a young team still trying to figure
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: out how to play deep into the playoffs, and this
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: year they're ready for it. I think as much as
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I don't like the Thunder just being a Spurs fan
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and them being rivals, it's I respect the Thunder because
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: they are a good basketball team from top to bottom.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You know, there's shay Jay dubb both J Dubbs, and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: then there's Chet Holmgren, who I know I give a
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: lot of slack too, but still as a great basketball player.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I think defensively he's gonna take a step forward. Especially offensively.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I think offensively he was still trying to figure it
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: out a little bit what he can do, and I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: think this year he's just I expect him to take
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: a step and to being a make himself even better,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and I think that's going to elevate this Thunder team
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: to a whole other level. And I don't know, it's
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: just and why am I forgetting like I feel like
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they made a big move, didn't they make a big They.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Had Isaiah Harvenstein Alex Caruz. So they added those two guys.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so they added two defenders that that could
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: help booster this booster this team to another level defensively
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: than they already worked. They were already a good defensive
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: team last year. And Isaiah Hartenstein, I know he's injured
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: right now, but once he comes back, him and Chet
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: are going to be a pretty good interior group to have.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And they were already good in New York with Mitchell
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Robinson and him when they were both on the court.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: So Chet's better than Mitchell Robinson. And I think having
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that complimentary piece is gonna help the interior quite a bit.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And as Curus was, just mister consistent. He's gonna do
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: his job when he needs to do his job, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: he's gonna make big plays when he needs to make
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: big plays. And I think coming off the bench, that's
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be great for this team.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: No, So all right, I'm gonna say this, this Western
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Conference is a lot more exciting than this Eastern Conference
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: because as much as we want to put certain teams
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: ahead in certain situations, we really don't know what's gonna happen,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but I do think I don't know.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you should have heard me when I was making
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: this list, I'm like, oh, crap, I gotta move this fact.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: It was funny.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, though it was pretty funny. But number one, I'm
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: putting the Oklahoma City Thunder here and I just think
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: that there's no true weakness to this team. And as
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: far as the biggest threat, I know I said the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Knicks are the biggest threat in the East, but as
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: far as overall, the Oklahoma City Thunder, they're clear way
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: ahead of everybody. As far as with the Boston Celtics,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I think that it's the Celtics on a tier and
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: then right below was the Oklahoma City Thunder. That's how
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: high I view them. And as far as with Shaye
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: loudor both of the j dubbs, Chet like you were saying,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: but I feel like those two key pieces. As far
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: as with Alex Caruso and Issaiah Harvenstein, the biggest thing
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that they struggled with last year was as far as
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: rebounding and being out physical. And you add Isaiah Harvenstein
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to that where Chet he can play before if you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: need to, if you need to go with the bigger
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: lineup when you play the Lakers, when you play the Mavericks,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: when you play when you play I'm forgetting a different team, oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the Timberwolves. So there's different matchups that now you could
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: go with the Thunder. And as far as with mac
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Mark Dagnault, he's one of the best, if not the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: best coach in the NBA right now, just as far
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: as the system he runs. And I have one thing
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to say, if it wasn't for Wimby coming into the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: league and wrecking shop Chet Holmgren, he would be viewed
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: how Wimby is viewed in all honesty, It's just it's
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: just Wimby. He's just at a different level than Chet
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: because what Chet does. He controls this entire offense. I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: know Shay he's the main player on this offense, but Chet,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he's the one that spreads the floor where.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: You can also bus his ass every time they play.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that is true. Man. He always did
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: bring that up every single time they played. Man, we'll
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: see how it is this year.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: When do they play their first game Wednesday tomorrow?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, Thunder and Thunder and Spurs played tomorrow eight thirty. Ooh,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I'm picking the over chet for points. I'm picking over.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I'm picking over for Wimby. They just hate each other.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: No, those are two guys who came into the league
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and it just seems like they have hate for no reason,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: like that was nothing.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: We don't even Wimmy doesn't even adapt. I mean, Wimmy
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: doesn't adapt anyone up. But he for sure doesn't adapt
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: as gap. Yeah no, I don't mean for sure doesn't
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Why I say ya, he for sure doesn't adapt chet
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: chet up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I don't know what it is. It's just
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the most random beef. But but who knows. But yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, they're they're number one. But since you gave
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: out your number two, I'm gonna give out my number
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: two here. And I think you're gonna be surprised to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: hear this, But I have the Phoenix Sons number two here.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a big disagreement. We're so far
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: off from each other.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: That's why I didn't want to tell you before. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: just wanted to wait till we started recording. But the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: reason why I have the Phoenix Suns number one is
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: because the Mike Budenholzer effect. As far as what what
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the offense compared to Frank vol there is a bunch
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: of ball movement and like you were saying with the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers, it actually looks like a real offense.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It's not hero ball. So you have KD, Devin Booker,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Bradley Bill who looked like this, this solid offense where
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it's not like is it your turn? Is it my churn?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: It's just as far as it moves really nice. And
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: as far as with this roster here, the biggest thing
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: with the Phoenix Suns was all right, they need depth.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They need depth because they didn't have no depth. But
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: you had Grace Now you brought him back last year
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: or brought him back again this year. You got tyas Jones,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: who's a good piece. You got Monte Morris who's another
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: good backup point guard, Mason Plumley another center behind use
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: of Nurkice. And then one guy that's been standing out
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: through these first two games, Ryan Dunn, a rookie, a
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: late first round pick for them. He's making impact, impact
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: plays on the court. And if you could continue to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: do that, that could add another element. As far as
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: with the Phoenix becuse defense that's their main problem. But
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: if you have Ryan Dunn in there as far as
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: he was going to Anthony Davis and Lebron James yesterday
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and he was not shutting them down, but he was
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: containing them. So if you have those pieces on defense,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I could actually step up. I think the offense is
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: going to be more than fine here because I know
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Mike Budenholzer. He has his struggles as far as in
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the postseason, but as far as in the regular season,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: he's one of the better coaches in the league. You'll
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: go back to him in the Milwaukee Bucks. He had
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: a couple one seeds and then a two seed in
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks when he had four All Stars in the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: one seed. So he's a proven regular season coach. So
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to get into awards, but I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: think Mike Budenholzer he's going to be in the Coach
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: of the Year conversation.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: That's why I have him.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And Okay, let me not be crazy here. I'm gonna
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: go in and list my three seed. It's a Los
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers, and so it sounds crazy putting the Suns
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: in the Lakers here after both of them barely missed
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: out on the play or they were the five and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: seven seeds something or along those lines. But like you're
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: saying everything that you said, as far as with the Lakers,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: they look like a real offense. That's what That's just
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the biggest change. It's just coaching changes. And I think
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing that makes the Lakers really scary now
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: is Anthony Davis. He's actually taking and making threes, which
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: kind of makes it a five out offense for Lebron,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: which Lebron's never had a five out offense. And you're
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: running as far as through the post Anthony Davis, so
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: he's the main facilitator here. I know he doesn't get
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: all those assists, but it runs through Anthony Davis. So
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Lebron he can't play off ball. And like you're saying
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: with Paulo ban Carroll, he's one of the most physically
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: talented players. But Lebron is the most physically talented player,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and you have him cutting off ball with all these
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: shooters around, then it's going to be really scary. So, yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the Lakers are three for me.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah for me at number three, I have the Dallas
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Mavericks Still. I think last year, I think Dereck Lively
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: is gonna be the part of the main reason why
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I take the Mavericks to elevate to another level. I
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna step up a big going into year two,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: especially defensively and on the boards. He's gonna get way
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: more comfortable doing that. He's He's not a bad offensive
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: player by any means. But I also think Luca Lucas
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: has something else to prove right now that he deserves
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: to be considered one of the best players. He came
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: up short last season. Obviously Kyrie Irving in the same way,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: and then PJ Washington, I think is another great piece
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: that they have on this team. And then plus the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: bench play is pretty consistent for the Dallas Mavericks game
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: in in game out. I don't think we have much.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's much of an explanation needed to
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: put the MAVs at three based off what they did
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: last season. So yeah, that's that's that's number three for me.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: But at number four, I have the Minnesota Timberwolves, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I think this is more of a question. I think
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I think the Timberwolves still will remain around this area
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of bat to play for the entirety of the season.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: It's just cat I feel like the the trading away.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I get you bring in Dante DiVincenzo, another score alongside
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that can score kind of on his own, alongside Anthony Edwards.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: But I think we're moving such a magnitude of a player.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's like this super great basketball player,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: but cat car Anthony Tallenge is better than most bad players.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Let's just say that. And I think we'removing a player
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: like that, especially on the interior offensively, could do could
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: could be a big, a big change. So I just
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: want to see how the Timberwolves respond to that change
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: and if they actually adapt to the situation that they
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: that they dealt themselves with. And so that's why they're
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: number four. For me, I'm just gonna name the rest
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: of my mind before the play in. At number five,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I have the Denver Nuggets. I just think just because
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: there's no moves being made, there's no improvement to the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: basketball team. It's just bringing back the guys and let
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: them keep moving. Because and then Joki set himself outside
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of my Coporter Junior and Jamal Murray, no one can
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: shoot threes on this basketball teah, and I think they
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: keeping up with certain teams above them is gonna be
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: hard to do that, especially teams like the Oklahoma City
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Thunder who have three point shooters everywhere, and then the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks who have three point shooters everywhere. Yeah, the
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Lakers they brought in and they're the way that they're
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: playing right now. They the Nuggets, it's gonna be hard
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: for them to keep up because Michael Porter Junior, though
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: being the good offensive player that he is, he's most
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: of the time pretty kind of He's not super uber consistent.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And then Jamal Murray, you're always worried about the health
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: issues and how long can he stay on the court.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And when he is on the court, he's very productive,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: but more often than not, you're worried about his health.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: And I think the Denver Nuggets have a lot more
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: question marks than they have in recent years past about
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: whether they can compete with the top teams in the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: West because they didn't make any improvements to their basketball team.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Then at number six, I think the Sacramento Kings, for me,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: are are going to remain right there. I think last
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: year we saw what they could do. The injuries I
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: think caught up to them towards the end with Malik
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Monk and what's his name, there was another Kevin Hurder
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: hurt them quite a bit going into the playoffs and
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: especially late into the season when they were making a
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: playoff run and playoff push for seeding. So having those
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: guys back is going to help them out quite a bit.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I think the d Aaron Fox and de Mantic Sabonis
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: tandem is is very good offensively. The only thing that
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: hurts this Sacramento Kings more is the is defense. There's
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: no interior defense on this team. It's quite surprising. Demanta
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Sabonis is this great rebounder, but he sucks at interior defense.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: So it's just it's just there's a pick and choose
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: with this team. Is I don't know if they take
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that next step forwards necessarily being a contender, but they're
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: definitely in playoff contention.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: So number four I have I have the Dallas Mavericks here,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I believe you. Oh no, you have the Mavericks three.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: So we kind of have them around the same range
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and the same reasons that you mentioned. And not to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: mention Quinn Grimes, Naji Marshall, and then you added Klay
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Thompson three and d guys just to add on to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving to Luka Doncic in which that's what they
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: were missing as far as they needed guys to be
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: on the perimeter to guard at Jason Tatum with Jaylen Brown,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and you're really gonna need them this year because you
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: have Shaye emerging to possibly another level. You have Steph
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Curry of course, like you mentioned Sacramento Kings, Anthony Edwards,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. So there's plenty of perimeter players in the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Western Conference, which you added that was something that you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: really needed there. So it's a big piece. It may
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: not be the splashest move, but it's a big piece
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: around the edges. And Derek Lively, I do think eventually
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: he's going to be in that starting role, just because
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: we saw towards the end of the year last year
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: it kind of became a five out offense with Derek Lively.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: So I think if they have Derek Lively in that
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: starting lineup, you do a five out offense, kind of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: like what I was saying with Lebron. If you have
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a five out offense with Lebron or Luca, you're gonna
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: win a bunch of regular season basketball games. So yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that's why they're number four for me, number five, I
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: have the Minnesota Timberwolves, and same reason that you were
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: saying pretty much the defense is obviously there are Karl
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Anthony Towns. That was a big loss, but you have
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Nas Reed there. But it's just weird to me the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Julius Randall fit and Anthony Edwards. I feel like Karl
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Anthony Towns Anthony Edwards, they did fit each other. Julius Randall,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: he's he's kind of in the post kind of guy,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and he's he needs at least type of guy. Yeah, exactly.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: And maybe you have Nas Reid out there, but then
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you don't have Rudy Gobert. You don't have your defense
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: out there. So that's where it's just really weird to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: me as far as how that's gonna work. But I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: think Anthony Edwards he's gonna lead this team to win
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: some regular season games here because this still is a
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: talented team. And Chris Finch he's a good coach. So
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Number six had a tough time here, but I'm gonna
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: with the Denver Nuggets here, so we do kind of
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: have around the same top six here other than the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. But I just think that as far as
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like you were saying, three point shooting and everything, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: as far as defensively, KCP, that is a big loss
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: right there. I know you have Christian Brown there, but
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready to take that next
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: step into that starting lineup or Yeah, and then you
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: have Russell Westbrook. We already know as far as what
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: he can do any given night, But as far as offensively,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: it just shortens the spacing where they already have spacing
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: problems with the Nuggets. So maybe Michael Porter, junior, Jamal Murray. Yes,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: they can shoot threes, but you're gonna need Aaron Gordon
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to shoot a lot more threes, kind of like with
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: this Brooklyn game tonight, Aaron Gordon had to shoot a
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: lot more threes. But again, you're competing with the Brooklyn
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Nets here. You should be able to take care of
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: this team pretty easily.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I know that it's any given day, especially in basketball teams,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they get upset, but it's the beginning of the season.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: You should be setting the tone. And I know this
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: is kind of off topic here, but I kind of
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: want to talk about it since I'm kind of bringing
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it up here. So as far as teams that coast
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: through the regular season. I just feel like that's something
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: that you cannot do as far as NBA wise, because
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: it builds up your habits as far as pustling, crashing
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the glass, going for offensive rebounds, doing the dirty work,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: as far as closing out on different players. You have
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to do that to build those habits in the playoffs.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a coincidence the Celtics they dominated or throughout
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the regular season and dominating in the postseason. Same with
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the Mavericks swards end of the year, same with the Timberwolves.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: So how do you feel about that? Do you feel
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: that as far as coasting through the regular season, I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: feel like it's overrated. How do you feel about that?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I think you can't do that in the Western Conference.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's no possible way that you can
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: coast through the regular season. And you do that, you're
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: gonna get caught behind. You're gonna be playing in a
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: play and playing tournament when you should be a team
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: that's in the top five. And I think because there's
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: so much good teams in the Western Conference, I think
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: if you try doing that, you're just gonna be honestly
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be You're gonna be left behind. I think
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: you have to play your best ball game in and
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: game out to be competitive in the Western Conference.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no for sure, But all right, let's go ahead
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and get into the play And so the seven through ten,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So goaden list yours for me.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: At number seven, I'm gonna have the New Orleans Pelicans.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: And I understand the size that they have on this
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: team isn't entirely the biggest when it comes to like
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: interior defense and interior offense. But if Zion Williamson can
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: stay healthy, it doesn't really matter. He can compete with
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: anyone down low. It's just a matter how long is
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Zion Williamson is gonna play. Without Zion Williamson, this team
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: isn't gonna be the same threat that they are. But
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: when he is on the court, they are a big threat.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: But defensively, outside of Brandon Ingram and CJ. McCullum, for
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the most part, defensive players all over this basketball team,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado, Dejhonte Murray, Herb Jones, Trey Murphy just to
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: name a few, and Daniel Ties now that they got
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: as their main center, it's just they're gonna they're gonna
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: stop teams from scoring the basketball. And they have enough
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: offensive players I think to keep up with CJ. McCullum,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: brandon Ingram and Zion so and then even even Desonte
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: when he when he wants to get going, he can
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: get going. So I think they have the weapons there.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It's just Zion Williamson is the big question mark for
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: this basketball team is if he's gonna play, They're gonna
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: be a threat if they are, and if he is
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: not there, Basically any aspirations they have are put put
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to bed. For me, the Phoenix Suns I have at
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: number eight. I haven't paid as much attention to what
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: to what they looked like so far this first couple
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: of games, like you have where you mentioned that they're
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: playing a lot of team basketball rather than individual basketball.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: But I still do think the depth is an issue.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I I I understand that that they brought in are
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: in players like I like I'm a I like Mason Plumley.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good basketball player, but I don't
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: think that's a big needle mover move. I think bringing
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: back I don't think bringing back Grayson Allen is a
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: big needle mover move either. He is just I think KD.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Devin Booker, and Bradley Bill. I think Devin Booker for
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the most part, is a healthy basketball player, but the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: other two are getting up there in age, and Bradley
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Build just stay. It's still out like he's still not playing.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: He's it's just a question mark whether his health is
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: going to be in check. And but when they all play,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: when they're all playing, their threat because they have one
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: guy on the core at all times, I can score.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: It's just the other players. I need to see them
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: make big plays, to see it happen, to believe in
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: them entirely. And at number nine, I hate to put
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: them right here as the Golden State Warriors. I think
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: it's just past that time. I think it's just past
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: the time where the Warriors are this contender. It's just
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Steph Curry is getting up there in age. They want
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: they're trying to transition to a younger age of basketball
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: player without getting rid of Stephen Curry. But I think
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the wrong way to go about it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just have to accept a rebuild and accept
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: a rebuild, and I think the onto the Warriors fully
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: accept that they're gonna be stuck in no man's land
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: playing in the play in. Yeah, and at number ten,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I have the Los Angeles Clippers, and health is once
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: again the reason. Kawhi Leonard's not on the court. Yeah,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard's not on the court. And without Coilonard on
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the court, this team is I don't want to hear
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: about it. And James Harden, James Harden is there, but
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: he's not the same. He's not the Houston Rockets James Harden.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: We used to know. He's not early James Harden, who
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: no matter who you had around him, he was gonna
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: get his he was gonna get the free throw line,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: he was gonna get everyone involved. He was gonna score
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: at this high clip. He was gonna have fifty point
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: triple doubles. That's not James Harden no more. James Harden
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: is not that guy anymore. At one point he's considered
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest basketball one of the greatest offensive
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: players of all time. It's just he's past it. He's older.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: He's up there in age. And that's the problem with
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: the Clippers. I think they're in the Warriors, in the
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Warriors boat where they don't want to accept a rebuild,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: and they're still trying to play competitive basketball with aging
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: basketball players. And at some point you're gonna have to
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: accept we have here, have to accept the restart. And
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I think both those teams are stuck. That's why they're
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: at nine to ten.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess this is where I'm gonna go out
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: on a limb right here these next two you well,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you mentioned one of these teams late, but you didn't
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: mention this other team. As far as from my seven
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to eight seed, I guess I'm going out on a
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: limb here. But I have the Golden State Warriors number
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: seven here, and I just think Klay Thompson that was
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: a big contractual issue. And as far as the pieces
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: they got from it, they got Kyle Anderson, they got
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the Anthony Melton, and they got Buddy Healed. They got
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: three pieces for one in which you could arguably say
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: those are three good role players around Steph Curry. As
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: far as this system, we already know what this system
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: can do, and I just think that what they did
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: they made it where they or not as reliant on
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Basically, where if Steph Curry has a bad game,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: they could stay still be in basketball games, but I
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: just think that there is a ceiling for this team.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I don't think that this team
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: is a contender, but I think that they just added
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: more balance. But if Steph Curry can't have a bounce
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: back year because last year towards the end of the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: year he did struggle, but if he could have another
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eight point per game season, then
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I think they might miss the play in as far
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: as they might be one of the top six seeds
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: in my opinion because they added more balance.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm not counting out Steph Curry, That's
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: what I think. It's just you know, for sure.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I get while you're saying they could be
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: number nine, But I do think I like Trace Jackson Davis,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga, Moses Moody, they just resigned. I think that
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: they should be able to take a jump because the
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Warriors are usually good at developing players. I'm not saying
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that these guys are going to be superstars. The one
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: guy that I could see taking an All Star jump
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: potentially is Jonathan Kamingo, which we talked about towards the
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: end of the Year last year, he did have some
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: good games Warrios, having a couple of twenty point games
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: or what was it he had, It was like eight
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: straight twenty point games something like that. Then he kind
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: of even what was his name, Trey Trace, Yeah, Trace
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Jackson Davis.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Trace Jackson Davis. Even when he started getting going,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I was pretty high on him. I like the way
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: he was playing basketball. He was actually a person that
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: gave winby a little bit of fits in their first matchups.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: So it's he uh, I like him too. It's just
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know this. The the West is just so
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: loaded I think right now, I don't I don't view
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: them as this content as this for sure put them
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: in their playoff team anymore.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it it definitely does make sense. And this
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: this team, this is where you're gonna be a little
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: bit surprised right here. But I'm putting the Memphis Grizzlies
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: number eight here. And the biggest reason why is John Morant.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: He's coming back. And I just think with John Morant there,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: it just you were missing your superstar last year, so
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna be bad. But you have Marcus Smart
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: from last you could or this year you could see
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: his full effect. You have Jaron Jackson, Desmond Bane, Brandon
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Clark there, you have pieces. You have a foundation there.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: And I do like their coach. I can't think of
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: their coach exactly right now, but he's from the Popovich system,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: so they have a goods Quinn Sninder. No, it's not
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Quinn Sneyder. I can't think of his name, but yeah, no, oh,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm picturing him in my head.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like short hair beard. I can't think of
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: his name, but yeah, I just think that, yeah with John.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Origin, Taylor Jenkins.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: That's his name. And I think the Warriors and the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Grizzlies they're one of these teams where I wouldn't be
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: surprised like, oh, they made that jump to be out
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: of the plan. I just think that because they have
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: their superstar players that can have a nuclear type of
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: season where nobody could stop him in this off just
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: gets to rolling. But as far as number nine and ten,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's just so unfair to these
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: teams because if they were in the Eastern Conference, I
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: feel like they'd easily be a four or five seed.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: But I have the Pelicans and Kings here, So I'm
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: gonna put the Pelicans nine, Kings ten. As far as Pelicans,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: their issue is, like you were saying, Zion staying healthy.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: If Zion could stay healthy, then they're easily a higher
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: seed than the play and maybe making the playoffs here
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: because they have peaces around Dejontay Murray broke his hands,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: so you don't get to see what they're truly capable of.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Even if Zion stays healthy, you won't be able to see.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: So probably about what was it February March, that's when
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Dejiontay's gonna come back or is it going to be sooner?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not sure about that. But yeah, as far
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: as with the Kings here, yes, I know you had
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: it in DeMar DeRozan. You didn't have Malik Monk last year.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: But the biggest reason is is just the West is
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: two stacked. That's what it is. Again. I would bet
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: real money if the Kings and Pelicans they were in
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, they would be a four or five seed,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: very confidently I could say that. But yeah, I think
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the Kings for sure, Yeah, no, for sure, But all right,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: that's my team's making the plan. But as far as
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: your team's outside eleven through fifteen, who are those right there?
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I think these teams are a lot more interesting than
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference, like eleven through fifteen. I think the Grizzlies,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: for me, I just need to see it. I know
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: we've seen it before them be good when they did
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: have Jaw at full strength. I'm just not the biggest
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: believer in John Moran. I just think he's a one
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: dimensional offensive player and he's good defensively, but I just
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: think there's inconsistencies there. And then Jared Jackson Junior for me,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: is a good number two, but offensively he lacks and
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's why for me I have him at
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: number eleven and number twelve. Out of San Antonio Spurs.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I think the Spurs, they'll at one point in the season,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: they're going to figure figure out Alohol to play together,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: and Devin Vessel is gonna come back, and I think
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: once he does, there's gonna be that number two reliable
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: score behind wo Me. And we saw last year them
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: get going with that pick and roll action towards the
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: end of the season that was working pretty effectively against
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: a bunch of teams and as of right now, Jeremy
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Shan looks like one of the most improved players in
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: the bat in the in the entire league right now.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: The way he's playing these last these first three games
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: in the NBA, sure is not gonna it's not gonna
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: look super pretty, but he's scoring eighteen points with along
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: with twelve rebounds and these other things he's He's playing
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: good basketball right and especially defensively he is too. So
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I think the Spurs at one point can make a jump.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: It's just they're gonna figure it out. It's gonna take
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: them a little bit longer to figure out how to
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: play all together. Along with Chris Paul. For me, I
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: got the Utah Jazz. I think outside of lowry marketing,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: this team has a lot of questions. I mean at
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: number thirteen, I have the Houston Rockets. I think the
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Rockets have the talent and definitely to move into the PLAYE.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: I think that makes sense. I just I'm a hater.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: That's really what it is. I'm a hater, So I
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: have them at I have them at at thirteen. Alfred Sangun,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I'm a big Alfred Stangun fan. I actually like the
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: way he plays basketball. Fonso knows this. I I I
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: think he does a lot of the good things. He's
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: like a miniature Jokic, if that makes sense. He does
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of the things that Jokic does offensively and defensively,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: he struggles a little bit. He kind of he kind
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: of not as consistent, but offensively when it comes to
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: passing the ball, creating his own shot in the interior,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: and even shooting threes, he can do it all. And
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: then Jalen Green's and Jalen Green I think is gonna
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: take another step. I think he's really good. It's just
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: I'm a hater. That's that's that's That's what I'm getting
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: at right now, guys, I'm a hater. I'm not putting
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: in the Houston Rockets any higher than I need to.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: And then as far as the Utah Jazz outside of
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Larry Markinen, there's a lot of question marks. I think
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Keanta Ingram can take a next step going into a
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: second year, but I think I'm just gonna have to
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: see it more than believe it for this Utah Jazz
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: before I move them any higher. I was a Perland Trailblazers.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's really much explanation to why I
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: have them at fifteen. I just think Stoot neither resurgence
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: in the second year. DeAndre a. It needs to get going.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, just a lot of question marks on
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: the Trailblazers team.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no for sure, And like you were saying, I
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: feel like eleven through thirteen right here, all of these
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: teams are interesting. So I have the Clippers eleven. Again,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: that's health James Harden, I don't know how much he
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: could do, and I'm gonna leave it at that. Houston
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Rockets twelve, I have them. I have him here. I
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: know they made a stretch towards the end of the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: year where they were the eleven seed. They what was it,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: they won eight nine straight games in a row something
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: along They all made to play in Yeah, but I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: just think the biggest thing is that that was when
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Albern sing Gun was out, so Jalen Green he was
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: able to emerge. I feel like they're gonna have to
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: pick by the end of the year one of the
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: two if they need Albern Sengun or Jalen Green. I
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: feel like both these guys on the same court. It
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: just doesn't mash. Maybe Ameyo Doka.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he could figure it out because they're both so
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: ball dominant.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So it's like they both need the ball
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: to score or facilitate the offense, and it works. But
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: when they're on the same court, they kind of neutralize
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: each other, if that makes sense. And that's the biggest thing.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: But I have dispersed thirteen here, But I got a
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: question for you as far as all the Winby hype
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. We're we're on the winby train,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: don't get don't get this wrong. What do you expect
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: from Winby this year? Do you expect another jump a
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: little bit of the same thing from last year.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I think I expect to jump offensively, for sure. I
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: just think I think he's gonna have to get He's
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: gonna it's just a relearning playing with a point guard
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: that knows what he's doing game in and game Outrey
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Trey Jones, I think was very reliable last year when
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: he did become the main, the main, the main point
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: guard after Jeremy Stone, after that Jeremy so Hen experiment.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: But Chris Paul's on a whole other level, and I
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: think we see it, we seed it in some of
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: these in some of the first couple of games of
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: them trying to get that connection. Like there's that where
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Wimby's kind of posting up and he can obviously Chris
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Paul sees that if Wimmy just rolls, like if twist
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: the other direction, yeah, Wimby's gonna have an easy layup
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: or dunk. So Chris Paul will throw it over Wimby,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: but Wimmy doesn't expect him to throw it over him,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: so he turns into a turnover. And there's a couple
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: of times where they've tried a little like pick and
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: roll like where and like a couple of alley oops
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: that didn't work out because Chris Paul sees something that
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Wimby doesn't see. So I think there's that there's gonna
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have to be more comfortability playing with a point guard
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: that that knows what knows basketball, especially high IQ like
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Chris Paul.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna take the castle too.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's even step on castles passes. Yeah. His the
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: way he's playing basketball right now is slow, methodical. I mean,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: he's athletic and can burst at any moment, but the
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: way that he plays is definitely letting the play develop
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: type of basketball, and that's those are type of things
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: that Chris Paul and him do, and Winby's gonna have
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: to get used to playing with true point guards this season.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: And but I think once he does that that that
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: jump is gonna be is gonna be a lot bigger.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much more he could jump. Defensively,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, we saw last game he had four blocks,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: so it's in the week game before that four blocks again,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: so it's he's I don't know what selling there is
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: defensively if he hasn't hit it already, I don't know
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: how much higher you could go. But defensively, I don't
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: think there's any growing paint. There's nothing he needs to
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: really learn besides maybe being more patient because he got
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: into a couple of a lot of foul trouble last
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: year sometimes just going for the block when he shouldn't have,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: and I think that's one step he needs to learn from.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: So I for there to be a jump like he
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: did in the second half of the season, I think
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: there still is gonna be a little bit more offensive,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: a more of an offensive jump. I feel like the.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Only thing that's really missing from his game is a
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: three point jump shot, which he's actually attempting more threes.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Well the back half of the year last year and
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: well last year, Yeah, what was it in catch and
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: shoot three pointers?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like forty eight percent or something like that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: But in like where he pulled up himself like created
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: his own three point shot, it was like what like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: thirty one percent? Like yeah, so it's like he just
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: has to be more consistent in creating his own three
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: point shot.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah he can. He's like you were saying, he's proven
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: he can shoot the three, just just off the dribble.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: But as far as these last two teams, Jazz Trailblazers,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: no expectations, Larry Marking and you're probably gonna get traded,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson. Hopefully we see some development from you, DeAndre
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Aiden you got signed, Hopefully we can see something. But
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: I don't see none of that happening really. But any
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: last things you want to take away from the Western
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Conference before we move on to awards.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Totally off topic. I would like to see DeAndre and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: on the.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Spurs really.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Just I don't know, I don't know if it would
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: hurt Wimby, but definitely having like a no Jeremy Stone
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: has gone crazy rebounding never mind forget forget it, never
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: mind forget Jenners. So is actually getting Hillo rebounds this year?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Would be nice, Lowry would be nice because offensively he
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: can do his own thing, like he can separate. Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: No, but all right, let's go ahead and move on
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: to awards right here, MVP, Defensive Player of the Year,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, most improved six man, and Coach
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: of the Year. So obviously we're gonna start with this
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: most important award right here. Who is winning the MVP here, Josh?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: And who's gonna be second?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I think, honestly, I don't think this this award is
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: really in doubt for me. I think it's gonna be
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: SGA's Shake Gilders Alexander's award to lose this season. And
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I think the way that the thunder are gonna play
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: this year, and he's gonna be the catalyst of it all. Defensively,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be up there and steals, he's gonna be
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: up there and on ball pressure when it comes to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: guarding the other players, yeah, and blocks and then and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: then when it comes offensively, there's no question about it.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Who Shake Gilders Alexander Is, So I think bar None.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I think it is gonna be him that wins MVP.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the exact same and I'm not gonna
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: really get into detail about that, but I think number
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: two here is gonna be Jason Tatum. In my opinion,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I think Jason Tatum how he struggled towards the end
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: of the year last year, as far as he struggled
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: last year, as far as off the dribble threes, but
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: so far in this season, he looks like he's on
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: a different level. I'm not gonna lie and again, that's
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: another team that's gonna run away with the Eastern Conference.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: But if you had to pick somebody who's gonna be
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: runner up, who would be runner.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Up for you?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Jason Tatum?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna say the exact same thing. Oh okay,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna go full hater made Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I know for sure. Lucas always up there. I feel
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: like Luca.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: MVP, He's always gonna be top three in MVP.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I just feel like.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Luca has bad luck because Embiid has this historic season,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: jokice three out of the last four MVPs, so he
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: just runs into just offensive Juggernauts. But all right, defensive
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: player of the Year. I don't think this is much
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: of a question here, So who's number one? And who's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be number two? For you?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Number one for me? You don't even have to you
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: don't even have to give me a freaking like everyone
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: should just read my mind. It's gonna be Victor wim Minyama.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think it. I think is his.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: It's his.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: It's really his award to lose, like, and it sucks
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: for other players, not for me and the Spurs and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: victorium Minyama, but it sucks for other players because that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: you're just in a in a generation of the greatest
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: defensive player to ever live is gonna be in your
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: in your in your era, you know, and he's just
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: gonna win fourteen of these things. So yeah, Victor Wimanyama
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: defense gets his first Defensive Player of the Year that
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: he should have got last year this year, and number
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: two for me is gonna be Chet Holmgren. I think
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be close to par with Victor Wimbanyama. But
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: just Victor Wimgnon just so much does so much when
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: it comes to steals, when it comes to blocks, when
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: it comes to altering shots, when people get to the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: rim and they to see him, they go the other direction.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: I think he's just gonna be it's just too much
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: for another player to replicate on another team.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: So I have winby Wimby. I think just by far
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: light years ahead. I'm pretty sure you could just go
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: in and cast a vote in, obviously barring any injuries
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: along that nature. But he's the whole defensive unit for
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs. Their whole defense is based around
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Wimby compared to Chet. Yes, he is a main focal point,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: but you have Shay who's a perimeter defender. You have
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Loudor who's a primitive defender. So Chet held kind of
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: stay around that paint area. Not saying he's not one
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: of the best or the second best defender after this year,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: but it's just what Wimby does. It's just on an
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: entire different level. So not much to disagree with you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: right there, All right. Rookie of the Year obviously that
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Zachary Resaw. He was the first pick with the falc
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: or Falcons Atlanta Hawks. Different sport, different sport.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Getting catching passes from Kirk Cozins.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, yeah, he is. They need some help out there.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: But Alex Sara went to the Wizards. Then you have
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: some other guy, Zachi Dalton connect Stefan Castle minus buzzellis
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: who's winning Rookie of the Year. Here.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: All that sounds nice and pretty, But Stefan Castle is
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: gonna win Rookie of the Year. And here's why. He's
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: gonna be the best on ball defender of any rookie
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: in the entire NBA. And I think we've already seen
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: the flashes of that this year, especially guarding against Jalen Green.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: They're they're looking for the switch of of getting Stefan
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Castle off of him. So far in these first couple
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: of games. I understand Jalen Green went insane in that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: first half last game versus the Houston Rockets, but the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: game before that he was having trouble getting guarded by
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Stefan Castle. Yeah, and then in the game before that,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: they were putting Stefan Castle on top of Luca. So
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: they trust him enough to put him in front of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: the best offensive player on the opposing team. And I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: think offensively passing wise, we've already seen the glimpses of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: what he can do, and we've seen the glimpses of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: what he can do. It's just a matter of scoring
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: the basketball is where he's gonna have to grow a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: little bit more. And I think that just comes with
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: being more comfortable with NBA play and learning from Chris
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Paul isn't isn't a bad thing to do. So I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: think eventually he's gonna really separate himself in the In
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: the Rookie of the Year race, I'm going with Stephan Castle,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: and that's not even me being biased. That's just be
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: seeing what I can see. And he's gonna be a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: good basketball player.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: So I think who's okay. So I'm gonna give who
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I think is gonna win Rookie of the Year, which
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I have no confidence in. Then I'm gonna give somebody
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: that's just a shot in the dark. And if he wins,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna come back to this and say, oh
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: my goodness, all was right. So the who I think
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: is gonna win Rookie of the Year is is Alexander
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Sar And the main reason for that is because he's
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the one of the worst teams. He's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: definitely gonna be the starting center, and I just think
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to get so many touches and
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: he just has so much potential. The biggest thing with
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: him was his jump shot. He's not gonna have to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: worry about his jump shot there, so he's gonna be
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: able to pad up his stats. But as far as
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: a sneaky guy who could potentially win Rookie of the Year,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I mentioned him from the from the Suns Ryan Dunn.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you this dude, from what I've seen these
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: first four games, he looks like a dog. And as
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: far as defensively, you talked about Stefan Castle, this guy,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: as far as a wing defender, he's he's up there
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: already as far as I'm not saying one of the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: best defensive players in the NBA, but he's definitely a
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: good wing defender already, and he he's good as far
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: as he's a catch and shoot kind of guy. So
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: that's just my dark horse there. But as far as
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: most improved player right here, who do you got?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I said that we would talk about him
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: more later and it's gonna be Pollo up Benchero. I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna take this other, this worldly step forward
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: into being in the top class of basketball player in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: the NBA. And I think offensively he's gonna make that jump.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I can see him averaging around twenty eight to around
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: twenty eight points per game this season, and I and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I think that's a that's a massive jump from where
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: he's at already, and plus passing the ball. He's he's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: just gonna be a do it all offensive basketball player.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: But also defensively he can, he's he's he's starting to
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: use athleticism to his advantage and his size. So I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: think with all that being said, I think it's gonna
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: be too much of an improvement where he's where he's where,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be hard to deny him this award.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: First and foremost, I'm gonna say Kobe White got robbed
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: last year from Tyree Smacksley, so I don't gonna say
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to win it this year
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: because I think Kobe White he's going to be in
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: that conversation too, But I think Paulo Bankerro's going to
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: be in that conversation. But I'm gonna take Kate Cunningham.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: I think Kate Cunningham from like I was saying, he
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: was dominating from last year, that last stretch and then
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: from these first four games. So I don't know if
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: you saw he was playing against the Cavs. I think
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: it was like a couple of days ago, and he
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: had thirty points by like the mid third quarter. So
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: this dude, he's gonna have the stats to back it up,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: and he's He's the entire reason why the Pistons not
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: even are relevant. You could even watch the Pistons not
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: all honesty. So I think Kate Cunningham he wins most
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Improved Player for me, But sixth Man of the Year,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like this one's really really interesting. You had
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Nasried win it last year, Malik Monk, He's always in
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that conversation, But who's winning it?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I mean last year had Cam Thomas winning it, but
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: it didn't even work out. So I think for me,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: sixthpen of the Year is gonna ben Aedict mathering and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna play a big role for the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers. I've been a bit I've been a fan
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: of ben Aedict Matherin for the last two seasons, and
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: mainly because what he does offensively He's able to create
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: his own shot. He's able to shoot the three, mid range,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: gets the rim. It's just a matter of defensively he
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: kind of struggles a little bit. But offensively, I think
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: he has all the tools to be a great offensive
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: player in the NBA. Kind of along the same mold. No,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: he doesn't say that does the same things that Alu
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Williams and Jamal Crawford do. But I think offensively he's
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: up there. He can be up there in par with them,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: and I think he makes that step forward this year
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: for the Pacers and ultimately win six Men of the Year.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to pick Benedic, Benadict Matthew So I'm
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: gonna say Modus. No, I'm just kidding. I'm not gonna
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: say Midus Bozellous, but I'm gonna just go with somebody different.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I do think Benadict Matthern he's gonna win it. I'm
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: alongside you with that. We both picked the same, but
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: just for the sake of it mentioning another guy, I'm
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: gonna say Miles McBride from the New York Knicks and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: from what he said, pick yeah, from last year, from
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: what he did in the playoffs. He was just an energy,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: energy guy, lunch pell type of guy, high i Q.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Student of the game, first one in, last one out,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: nine to five type of guy, the type of guy
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you let the yeah, scrappy, sneaky, athletic. If you guys
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: listen to the first episode that we did say, you
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: guys will understand that. But yeah, no, Miles McBride, I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: just think that he's gonna take a jump as far
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: as being that first guy off the second unit for
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: the New York Knicks. Even though there is an Alec Burks,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: there is a Mitchellbinson there, so so yeah, I think
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: he's gonna take that jump. But all right, coach of
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: the year for you here, I know we gave out
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: our standing so it kind of does tell who's gonna
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: be in the coach of the year race for us.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: So who's your.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Coach, Greg Popovich? Now, I'm just kidding, it'll be JJ Riddick.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I think JJ Reddick's gonna win the Coach of the Year.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna elevate this Lakers team to another
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: level that they haven't been in a couple of seasons.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: And it's so it's showing so far already. I understand Lebron.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: They lost his last game versus the Suns. Lebron had
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: a rough one. He said he was dealing with some things.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: And but I think over the entire of the season,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I think the Lakers are gonna look very good. And
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: considering Mark Mark dag don't won last year, I don't
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: think they'll give it to him two years in a row.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: So I think JJ Redick's gonna be the guy that
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: wins this year.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, no, I was thinking something along the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: same lines as far as JJ Reddick wouldn't it And
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: so I do have the Phoenix Suns up there, But
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Mike Budenholzer he'll get a another
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Coach of the Year because he has one Coach of
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: the Year. But just for the sake of how I
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: expect the Phoenix Suns to make that jump or actually,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: let me go back to it, let me go back
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: to my standings. Okay, has Joe Missoula won it? No,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Joe Missula has never won Coach of the Year. I'm
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: gonna say Joe Missula wins Coach of the Year, wins
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Coach of the Year because he's never won it. They're
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: gonna have the best record in the league.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: So so I think the only reason I like, the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: only reason I kind of like the Celtics is Joe Missoula,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: great Catholic man.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Joe Missoula. Shout out to him.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: But but all right, so I think we pretty much
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: covered everything here, but any any as far as NBA
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: storylines just off topic that you're looking forward to in
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: this NBA season, I.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Think obviously, I mean, for me, any Spurs storyline, so
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mention those, But I think for me,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be more that I like the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Lakers storyline right now. I like where they're at with
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: the Reddick and Lebron's situation. And if we're looking at
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: another storyline, I think for me, it's gonna be along
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: the I think it's gonna be that New York Knicks,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Orlando Magic in Cleveland Cavaliers area, Like which team is
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: gonna separate an emerge as as the main continue to
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the Celtics out of those.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Three yeah, hm, okay, yeah, no, I definitely agree with
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: you on that, But I think the biggest thing that
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to is as far as the older superstars,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: as far as the lebron the KD, the Steph Curry,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: even Giannis Joel Embiid, those guys who are kind of
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: getting up there in age, are they gonna Are they
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: gonna show that, hey, we're still the old guys. Are
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: we gonna We're still gonna be in this league? Even
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: though the Celtics and the Thunder they're kind of looking
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: like these are gonna be the teams in the championship
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: for these next four or five years. I wonder if
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. And I just think that I don't know,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be one team each from the West and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Eastern conference where we have high expectations or they're playing
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: good right now and they're gonna fall off completely. I'm
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: just wondering who those teams are gonna be. So if
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: you had to predict, if you had to predict which,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: if you had to pick one team you picked from
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: the playoffs that's gonna fall off from each conference, who's
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: it gonna be like? As far as top six.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: The Philadelphia seventy six ers on the East or out
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: do the Milwaukee Bucks in the East.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: M HM.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Now it's one of those two teams. I can't pick
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: between the jam seventy six Ers or the Bucks are
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: gonna fall off. And in the West, the Denver Nuggets.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, Okay, that's that's a little spicy right there.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to say, as much as I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: don't want to say it being a Lebron fan, as
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: much as being a LA fan, but I think the Lakers.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I think the Lakers they could be the ones to
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: most likely to the fall off because just due to
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: the injury, my bad due to injury, but I just
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: think Anthony Davis, Lebron James, they just have to stay
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: healthy for him. I know that includes the Sun well
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: pretty much any team in here, but the Lakers. As
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: far as with Lebron, he's kind of been dealing with
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: injuries last year. And as far as from the East,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: if I had to say somebody else besides the Bucks
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: and the Sixers, I'd I'd probably say the New York
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Knicks just due to how Tom Tom Thibodeaux runs teams
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: into the ground like he runs his players into the ground,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: So there could be something last year. So yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: that is true. But all right, the last thing we
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: have to go over is NBA Finals matchup? So who's
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: gonna be the two teams to make it to the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: finals from the Eastern and Western Conference. It's not it's
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: not for sure. It's end and Stone because we'll do
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: it when we really start talking about basketball. But if
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: you had to pick two teams to make the NBA Finals,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: who's it gonna be? And I know you want to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: say Bruce Spurs. I want to say the same thing,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: but yeah, we have to be non biased.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Here, yep. So me being non biased, I'll do the
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Lakers versus the Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: Lakers. N I'm gonna write it down just to see
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  Speaker 1: how accurate we are, Cause do you remember yours from
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  Speaker 1: last year or no? Your finals prediction?
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  Speaker 2: No guys versus Celtics.
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  Speaker 1: That was close. That was close. And if you had
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  Speaker 1: to pick a winner out of those two.
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  Speaker 2: The New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, So I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: Damn, that's gonna hurt the Lebron debate. Actually give me
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  Speaker 2: the Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: We can't afford to be doing this, Hooters. We can't.
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  Speaker 1: There's only so much we could defend here, There's only
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: so much.
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  Speaker 2: Do the Lakers?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna say the I know this
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  Speaker 1: is the easy way out, but I just really do
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  Speaker 1: think that this is gonna happen. I think, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just think the Thunder and Celtics. That's gonna happen because
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  Speaker 1: all of these times.
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  Speaker 2: The box for once in your life.
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  Speaker 1: You know what you want me to You want me
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  Speaker 1: to pick a crazy team. Here, Give me the Suns.
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  Speaker 2: Versus Til Blazers, give me the give me the Utah
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  Speaker 2: Jazz versus disgusting NBA Championship of all time, Detroit Pistons
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  Speaker 2: versus the Portland Trailblazers, or Washington Wizards.
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  Speaker 1: About to say getting nastier because you have Kate Cunningham.
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  Speaker 2: There, Washington Wizards versustanlyand.
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  Speaker 1: Nets Brooklyn Nets.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like because you can say like past some
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  Speaker 2: type of over to their team, like the Wizards have
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  Speaker 2: no aura, like go down to their colors, their jerseys,
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  Speaker 2: their logo like Blao Kalalaby being their number one player
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  Speaker 2: Alexander Sar and then you got the Then on this
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  Speaker 2: other side, I mean the Jazz probably in or the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: or the Porland Trailblazers. Just there's like Scoot DeAndre a
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: and the other one is like, I mean, Lowry is great,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: but like everyone else is like a you.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Know, so it's calling Sexton, you know, kind of like
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: calling Sexton Walker Kessler Dynamic duo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, it would be the Wizards versus the Jazz, Yeah,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Jazz or Trailblazers.
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  Speaker 1: Off topic, who has the best jersey as far as
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: like one jersey because I know this is biased here.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is biased here. But as far as
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  Speaker 1: the pinch strip Bulls, the black and red, the black
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  Speaker 1: and red.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, the black and white for the
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Spurs just it's just so simple, it's nice. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I like it, but that's bias. If I'm not being biased,
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  Speaker 2: Who has the best jerseys?
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  Speaker 1: If I can't be biased, Okay, let me see, because.
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  Speaker 2: I can wear the Spurs jersey with anything, like black
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  Speaker 2: and white, like I can wear it with anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't like the Maths jerseys. I don't. I
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: don't like the Maths jerseys, even the black ones, all
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: black ones that they do.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like jerseys just don't hit like they used to,
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  Speaker 2: bro like.
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  Speaker 1: They well, they brought back the Toronto Raptors, they brought
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: back the vintage jersey or you know what I'm gonna say,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the Vancouver Grizzly jerseys. They brought that one back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were thinking like this regular home
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: and away jersey, like who has the best?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just talking about like a jersey that teams
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  Speaker 1: actually wear. That's why I was saying, like the pinch
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  Speaker 1: stripe for the Bulls, the black and red or Okay,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: if I can't pick the Bulls, I'm gonna say the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: magic the pinch stripe because they brought brought back the
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: pinch stripe, So say the magic for that.
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  Speaker 2: I like the Lakers Cringe Shaw jerseys that they did.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Lakers the blue right, Yeah, the blue ones
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  Speaker 2: were pretty sick a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, those were nice. The Miami I like the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Vice jerseys. I think those Vice them really you don't
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: like them? Wait, I'm thinking of the blue ones, like
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: the blue one then the small pink guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not the biggest fan of them. I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: think it's a little tacky a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I always like the Knicks jerseys. I always liked the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Knicks like blue jersey.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the blue jersey is nice. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, No, there's nobody else that I
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: could say, like, hey, that jersey. Actually the Warriors their
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: their jersey, the black and yellow. I can't think of
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: the roads. No, not the one with the rose.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, not that one.
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of which one it is. I have
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: to find it afterwards. But all right, y'all know any
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: last words before we end this part right here.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Go spurs go?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah know, all I'm saying is Kobe White breakout year
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: winning MVP DPL why Most Improved Coach of the Year.
• 1:21:20
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