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Bozoma Saint John · On with Mario Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I have one with Mario Lopez. It's up Mario Courtney
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  Speaker 1: Lopez joining me right now on Zoom New Real Housewives
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  Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills star Bozama Saint John aka Bows.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Bows?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I'm y'all. I'm y'all's new bestie. You
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  Speaker 3: didn't know that, and so now you could call me
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  Speaker 3: both like pround's good.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds good.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for the premier.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's new bestie. Everyone loves you up girl.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently you don't yet, but I'm fine with that. I'm
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  Speaker 3: totally okay with being the bestie.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're new to the cast.
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  Speaker 2: He's in fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: What made you decide to join the show? Like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what you're signing up for. You know they thrive
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  Speaker 1: on drama. Did you just say, Okay, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: in there like a like a character, or you're really
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  Speaker 1: about that life?
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  Speaker 2: No? I know?
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  Speaker 3: Right, Well, Mario, here's here's the secret that people don't know,
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  Speaker 3: which is that I've been about that life.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. You can't have crawled up, clogged your way up
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  Speaker 2: Corporate America into not one corner office, but four of
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  Speaker 2: the largest companies in the world and not be about
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  Speaker 2: that life. I will choose violence every day. No, I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Not my kind of girl. Nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But look, that's my thing is that this is
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  Speaker 3: not a scary situation because I already understand how the
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  Speaker 3: dynamics of people work, you know, and this just happens
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  Speaker 3: to be a different type of room from the rooms
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  Speaker 3: I've already been in.
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  Speaker 2: Got it?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, we'll put Yeah, you don't want to mess with her. Also,
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  Speaker 4: on the show, you you're opening up about having another child,
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  Speaker 4: and you and you've been open about your your past,
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  Speaker 4: your children and everything that you've gone through and it
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  Speaker 4: has not been an easy road for you. Is this
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  Speaker 4: still something that's on your plate that you're trying to
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  Speaker 4: do have another child?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, yes, And you're right, this is of
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  Speaker 2: all things that is probably the scariest part, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the challenge of being on a show
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  Speaker 2: like this is that you know, you sign up for everything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's the entirety of your life, right, and
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  Speaker 2: so you can't pick and choose like, oh, I just
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about these like happy sexy things like
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  Speaker 2: you know, you've also got to talk about the stuff
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  Speaker 2: that's really scary. And because I have been a corporate
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  Speaker 2: figure for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: My personal life has not been on display, although I
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  Speaker 3: have chosen to talk about that in my corporate life
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  Speaker 3: because I thought it was important to show that leaders
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  Speaker 3: are not just these like, you know, emotionless like robots
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  Speaker 3: that don't have feelings or lives, but that you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're all human and that you can be a better
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  Speaker 3: empathetic leader because you've gone through trauma.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But it is very, very scary to open myself
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  Speaker 2: up to be judged for having dreams and aspirations of
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  Speaker 2: expanding my family as a more mature woman, as someone
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  Speaker 2: who is you know, romantic and hopeful to find love
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  Speaker 2: again after being a widow for twelve years, as someone
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  Speaker 2: who has suffered with preclamsia and the loss of a child.
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  Speaker 2: All of that is very scary, and I have chosen
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it publicly.
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  Speaker 4: It's a terrifying thing, and I'm sure you've touched a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people, and because a lot of people can
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  Speaker 4: relate and think, and it's nice for them to hear
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  Speaker 4: it on such a huge platform.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've also been very surprised by that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I knew that there would be of course,
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  Speaker 3: some people who'd be like, oh my gosh, like I
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  Speaker 3: can't believe you're doing this, like what are you thinking?
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  Speaker 3: But I also knew that there was going to be
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  Speaker 3: an audience of people who said, oh same, like oh
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  Speaker 3: my gosh, I've been through this, or I also have
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  Speaker 3: hopes for this. What I didn't anticipate was the what
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  Speaker 3: I would call and maybe this is a strong word,
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  Speaker 3: but what I would call shame that people have about
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  Speaker 3: talking about this.
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  Speaker 2: You know that there are close girlfriends of mine who
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  Speaker 2: when we did the episode where I got my fireboid
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  Speaker 2: surgery so that I can have the option of caring
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  Speaker 2: if I choose to, one of my very dear girlfriend
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  Speaker 2: called and said, bos, I can't believe that you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about this. You know, I had my surgery two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, girl, what, like you like you didn't
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  Speaker 3: share that, Like you didn't talk. But she's like, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to because you know, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you don't want people to judge you and think that
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  Speaker 3: like you can't and therefore that And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: are you kidding me? Like we you know, we walk
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  Speaker 3: around with such shame around fertility, you know, and if
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  Speaker 3: you can't have children, or if you're having a difficult
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  Speaker 3: time having children, or if you're trying to find the
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  Speaker 3: different options to have children that somehow it's like shameful
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  Speaker 3: for you to say that.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you to bring that to the forefront, because
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  Speaker 1: not only is it very empowering, Yeah, you break that
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  Speaker 1: stigma and it's awful. People just people just well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the unfortunate thing about social media creates a platform
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  Speaker 1: for people just to kind of spew sort of negativity
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  Speaker 1: with no consequence.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's very.
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  Speaker 1: Cool and probably one of the many reasons a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the fans of the show are saying, you're a
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  Speaker 1: huge upgrade on the show, which.
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  Speaker 2: Which is nice.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do you plan to come back for the
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  Speaker 1: next season?
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  Speaker 2: Did you have a good experience?
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  Speaker 3: Well, see, look we haven't filmed the reunion yet. Let's
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  Speaker 3: see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: You and you and I'll be watching you and deit
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  Speaker 4: became fast friends. How is everything else?
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  Speaker 2: Today?
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday?
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  Speaker 2: Today's Wednesday?
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  Speaker 4: Also an episode came out last night. Okay, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what, I don't know. Uh so you and have
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  Speaker 4: become fast friends. What's what's going on with the other girls?
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  Speaker 4: Because I know there's there's a lot going on this season,
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  Speaker 4: a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody has something going on.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're kind of like the voice of reason,
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  Speaker 4: and you explain it a lot in your confessionals, you know,
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  Speaker 4: being such a high level powered woman in different positions,
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  Speaker 4: you're always trying to find a solution and how to
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  Speaker 4: fix this, and you can and you can really really tell.
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  Speaker 4: But I think some people don't like that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's a lot of reasons why people
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  Speaker 3: don't like a lot of things. Okay, I'm always going
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  Speaker 3: to just call things the way I see them, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And one thing about I think my relationship with dried,
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  Speaker 3: which has I think been a surprise for people, is one, yes,
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  Speaker 3: the speed at which we became fast friends, right, but
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  Speaker 3: I also believe in just like time and space and energy,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, the moment that things happen. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if i'd met Derey six years ago, if we
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  Speaker 3: were to become fast friends. You know, I happened to
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  Speaker 3: meet her at a moment in her life where she
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  Speaker 3: desperately needed someone who was not going to judge her,
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  Speaker 3: someone who's going to listen to her, and someone who's
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  Speaker 3: going to tell her the truth. You know, and so
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  Speaker 3: I happened to walk into that moment where it's like
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  Speaker 3: she has just separated from her husband, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the women feel like she talks too much,
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  Speaker 3: but I was willing to listen. I was like, girl,
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  Speaker 3: what you know what I mean? I was like, tell
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  Speaker 3: me everything, girl, tell me off the dirt, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And so she was telling me, of course I'm an
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  Speaker 3: empathetic ear, and I was like, ooh, girl, yes I've seen,
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  Speaker 3: I heard that, I've been there. Oh let me tell
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  Speaker 3: you what I did. Girl, you need to get yourself
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  Speaker 3: a lawyer, you know. Like, but I'm just reacting to
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  Speaker 3: what I am getting. And I think the challenge from
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  Speaker 3: the other women was that they felt that I haven't
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  Speaker 3: given space, you know, for them to also I don't know, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like the group therapist, but they haven't given
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  Speaker 2: space to also connect with me in much the same way.
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  Speaker 2: But I just don't know that things are.
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  Speaker 3: Always equal, you know, in life, Like in friendships, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if you're part of a friend group, aren't
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  Speaker 3: there always people who.
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  Speaker 2: Like break off?
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  Speaker 3: And like there are always the two who are like
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  Speaker 3: really really close or threes, like you have the big
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  Speaker 3: group chat and then there's like one with the three
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  Speaker 3: people in it.
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  Speaker 2: We all know that extra.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, it's always hard with groups like that because
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  Speaker 4: it's never never equal. You should start like therapy sessions
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  Speaker 4: and like just put them in your book.
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  Speaker 1: Is that one girl is the one who's the one
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  Speaker 1: that uh, the husband was the doctor and was doing
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  Speaker 1: shady stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Oh the tea, No, yeah, the you know it was
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  Speaker 2: the attorney wasn't a doctor. I'm sorry. He was the attorney,
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  Speaker 2: the shady attorney that they lived by us right there
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  Speaker 2: in Pescal Oh Erica, right. Not a doctor?
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  Speaker 3: Was he was?
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  Speaker 2: He was?
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  Speaker 1: He was attorney.
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  Speaker 2: He was in the show.
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  Speaker 4: Was an attorney.
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  Speaker 2: He's still on the show. He's still on the show.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't get locked up.
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  Speaker 2: At Mario'll get into it. You just see how he leaned.
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  Speaker 1: In because I saw no because I saw the documentary
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  Speaker 1: about her shady ass husband, and then we had her
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  Speaker 1: on the show a bunch of times.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: I have been a die hard Housewives fan since Orange
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  Speaker 4: County when it first came out. So he's always saying
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  Speaker 4: stuff to me. But don't think he doesn't stop and
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  Speaker 4: watch when he walks into the bedroom.
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  Speaker 2: Well during like the reunions.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's like they were they say some nasty
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  Speaker 1: seb So you're gonna get compelled to like, damn, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on?
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  Speaker 2: You're like, what happened here?
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  Speaker 3: But you know what's funny about her is that I
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  Speaker 3: think because of everything that she went through, you know,
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  Speaker 3: she's having like one of those seasons where she's just
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out her footing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she's trying to figure out like how do
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  Speaker 2: I just live my life?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 2: And I love her, right, I love her in this moment.
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  Speaker 4: And not about her.
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  Speaker 2: So she's happy exactly. She's the pop star one, yes,
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  Speaker 2: pretty mess. Sorry okay you're.
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  Speaker 1: Using pop stars, but yeah, no, I just know she used.
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  Speaker 2: To live by us.
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  Speaker 1: And then yeah I tripped out when I saw a documentary.
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  Speaker 2: I go, oh damn, oh yeah no, she's currently on Broadway.
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  Speaker 2: She's like she's get out of here, rushing. Okay, damn.
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  Speaker 3: Resilience, you know what I mean? We should learn back
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  Speaker 3: balance back lessons from her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet, Oh, well now you got me, uh
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  Speaker 1: now you got me a.
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  Speaker 2: Tree by the season bows.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they did a great job obviously with
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  Speaker 1: this casting.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations are you from La originally? What was that?
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  Speaker 1: Are you from La originally?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, no. I grew up in Calada Springs, Colorado. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: Colorado Springs, emagally. You've been out here a minute now,
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  Speaker 2: but only with only black people there. Yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 2: they just started getting Mexicans a little wile ago. Go
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  Speaker 2: back and populate, you know what I'm saying? What are you?
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  Speaker 2: How long you've been out here in La now?
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  Speaker 3: I've been here for let's see, twelve years almost.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so it's home now, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is well.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you. Congratulations and listen everyone, please be sure
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  Speaker 1: to catch the final few episodes of season fourteen Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills, airing Tuesday nights on Bravo. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: so much for your time.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciated this fun all right, take care
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  Speaker 2: with Mario Lopez