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State of the Padres w/Darren Smith · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk Padres right now, and we'll talk Giants too,
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Speaker 1: since they're matching up with them at the moment. Darren
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Speaker 1: Smith is joining us. You can hear them all over
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Speaker 1: the scene in San Diego and of course part of
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Speaker 1: Friar territory along with Marty Caswell. Darren, great to have
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Speaker 1: you on, man, appreciate the time, and let's just start
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Speaker 1: with a nice and simple state of the Padres.
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Speaker 2: After about a week of baseball, your thoughts not great?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not exactly out of the gates firing here like
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Speaker 3: people had hoped. With a new manager and an emphasis
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Speaker 3: on wanting to change the dynamic of how you approached
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Speaker 3: hitting the baseball, it's not been good at all.
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Speaker 2: It's one and four.
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Speaker 3: You lose a couple of games where you expect Nick
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Speaker 3: Pavetta and Michael King. Right, if you're gonna have a
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Speaker 3: rotation where you have Walker Bueller and Harman Marquees, you
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Speaker 3: probably want to feel pretty good about the games where
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Speaker 3: you're pitching the front of the road. That didn't quite
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Speaker 3: work out against the Detroit Tigers. So one and four,
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Speaker 3: the team has only hit two home runs. They are
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Speaker 3: for what this is worth through five games, thirtieth and slugging,
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Speaker 3: which is kind of reminiscent of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 2: So it's not good.
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Speaker 3: And they are staring down the barrel of a sweep
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Speaker 3: today this afternoon at Peco Park to the San Francisco
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Speaker 3: Giants who have woken up in San Diego after a
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Speaker 3: miserable start in their home ballpark.
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Speaker 2: Other than that, everything's great.
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Speaker 4: It sounds like a blast, sounds like sunny San Diego.
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Speaker 4: I mean sounds like you know what, Darren. It sounds
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Speaker 4: like you're in Philadelphia right now. It doesn't sound like
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Speaker 4: you're in Sandy. Everyone's always happy in San Diego. I
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Speaker 4: thought you're clearly in Philadelphia with Crats, not San Diego.
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Speaker 4: My question is, is Vitello's there? He got his first
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Speaker 4: two wins. Craig Salmon is the manager of the Padres,
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Speaker 4: and we had Jim Bowden on yesterday saying how he
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Speaker 4: thinks both of them looked over match. Is that the
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Speaker 4: feeling you're getting from Padres people. I haven't really I'm
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Speaker 4: not gonna lie. I haven't watched a ton of the
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Speaker 4: Padres so far this year because you know, ten pm
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Speaker 4: is way past my bedtime most of the time. Is
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Speaker 4: not the case, because I like Craig and I think
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Speaker 4: he's a good guy and he'll be a good manager.
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Speaker 4: But you know, jump into this with really no experiences.
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Speaker 5: Tough.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think everybody likes Craig. I don't
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Speaker 3: know anybody who would ever say anything bad about Craig Stammon.
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Speaker 3: But you know, it's not what we're talking about here.
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Speaker 3: We're talking about him being the manager of a big
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Speaker 3: league club, especially when you've interviewed other high profile names
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Speaker 3: and it's not gone well, and today's you know, it's
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Speaker 3: an interesting day to talk about it. You know, I
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Speaker 3: don't know that there was anything that was really obvious
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Speaker 3: about stamman managing through the first couple of games. Maybe
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Speaker 3: a question about leaving Jeremiah Estrata in a little bit longer.
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Speaker 3: In game number two of the series, he ended up
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Speaker 3: walking three straight batters, and you know, the Tigers, you know,
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Speaker 3: opened up a can in the eighth inning of the
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Speaker 3: second game of the season. But you know, the question
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Speaker 3: is whether or not you use Mason Miller for more
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Speaker 3: than three outs. He said, that's just not something that
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Speaker 3: we're going to do. Early on in the season, we
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Speaker 3: decided that before the game Okay, fine, you can live
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Speaker 3: with that. But you know, as we're talking today and
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Speaker 3: I mentioned the potteris and the Giants are playing a
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Speaker 3: little later on, they had their worst game aesthetically of
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Speaker 3: the season.
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Speaker 2: Didn't look good.
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Speaker 3: Guys not throwing to the right bases, balls dropping between outfielders.
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Speaker 3: There was some really questionable decision making about how long
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Speaker 3: they left Kyle Hart, a relief pitcher in the game who.
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Speaker 2: Ended up getting touched up.
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Speaker 3: I thought he was asked about that and he had
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Speaker 3: to answer questions about that in the postgame press conference.
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Speaker 3: His lineup decision, I think is starting to raise an
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Speaker 3: eyebrow or two.
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Speaker 2: Again, it's so early. It sounds sort of stupid to say.
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Speaker 3: This, But when Ramon Loriano is your hottest hitter and
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Speaker 3: you sit him on the bench for some nebulous statistics
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Speaker 3: so that you can put Castellanos and Andrew Hart in there,
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Speaker 3: and it doesn't work, I think you're gonna have people
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Speaker 3: asking you're under a microscope. You know, you are a
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Speaker 3: guy like Jim Boden said, like you guys have talked about,
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Speaker 3: like we've talked about here, you are under a microscope
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Speaker 3: because you know this was not a conventional decision or
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Speaker 3: somebody who you know had made the rounds interviewing for
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Speaker 3: these managerial gigs, so you know, there should be a
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Speaker 3: little bit of a brighter spotlight for him trying to
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Speaker 3: to prove why he was the choice over some other candidates,
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Speaker 3: you know. And today's one of those days now where
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Speaker 3: you're you're looking again and like Tatisa's back in the
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Speaker 3: leadoff spot and cronin Worth's drop back down, and he's
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Speaker 3: done some things differently again and it's you know, just
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Speaker 3: game six of the season. So I would say he's
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Speaker 3: he's not really done anything that's been incredibly damning, but
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Speaker 3: it's it's certainly not he has not made the case.
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Speaker 3: You know, he has not exactly shown a ton to
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Speaker 3: support the decision that was made to hire him in
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Speaker 3: the first place, which you know, again was like as
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Speaker 3: unconventional as it possibly could be.
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Speaker 5: So when you're looking under a microscope, what are they
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Speaker 5: looking for? Are people looking for, oh, he did that wrong?
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Speaker 5: Because if that's the case, you're always going to find
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Speaker 5: something like what has he done right in the sense
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Speaker 5: of how this team is going to succeed over one
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Speaker 5: hundred and sixty two games, Because last I checked he
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Speaker 5: ain't got no slug Craig stan Stamman's slugging in his
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Speaker 5: career was pretty brutal, and I'm pretty sure as a
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Speaker 5: manager he can't do any of it. And unless something
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Speaker 5: like that changes, is this team more than just a
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Speaker 5: five hundred team?
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Speaker 3: Hard to make that prediction today, especially when we haven't
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Speaker 3: seen any evidence that Walker Bueller and you know, Harmon
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Speaker 3: Marquez or are you know, definitely going to stick around
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Speaker 3: as the fourth and fifth starters or are they just
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Speaker 3: seat fillers until whenever it is that Joe Musgrove returns
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Speaker 3: and you can get Griffin Channing healthy whenever that might be.
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Speaker 3: Is that what the situation is there? So yeah, I
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Speaker 3: mean I think, you know, the thing that I've been
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Speaker 3: thinking about is you do want to be you know,
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Speaker 3: you don't want to be ridiculous here and talk about
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Speaker 3: you know, how this is anything is definitive, right, This
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Speaker 3: isn't indelible how they've come out of the gates. You know,
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Speaker 3: Fernando Tatis Junior Manum Chelda, they don't have a home
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Speaker 3: run between them, right, So is that going to continue?
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Speaker 3: Obviously it's not. But they were not a good slugging
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Speaker 3: team last year. And that was a big point of emphasis.
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Speaker 3: You know, they were twenty second in slugging in twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty five, and they were twentieth twenty eighth in home
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Speaker 3: runs hit. So as much as you say, okay, wipe
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Speaker 3: the slate clean and start all over again in twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty six, you know, it's not up to us just
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Speaker 3: to say automatically, Okay, we believe that you're going to
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Speaker 3: be a different team. It's up to them to prove
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Speaker 3: that they're going to be a different team. And so
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Speaker 3: they haven't done that. So you know, when you replace
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Speaker 3: a manager, whether people like Mike Schulter or not, the
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Speaker 3: fact of the matter is he did win ninety games
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Speaker 3: last year, and he won ninety three games the previous season,
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Speaker 3: you know, so he had a way of winning even
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Speaker 3: with some of these deficiencies that have shown themselves early on.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I I don't know what it is
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Speaker 3: that we expect to see. Maybe Craig Stammon was brought
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Speaker 3: in here because he's a little less volatile than Mike Schuldt. Well,
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people would take the volatility
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Speaker 3: of Mike Schildt, which mostly happened behind the scenes, if
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Speaker 3: it meant that you were in the high eighties or
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Speaker 3: in the nineties when it came to wins, and you know,
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Speaker 3: to have one of your worst starts in recent memory
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Speaker 3: here with this new manager and seeing some of the
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Speaker 3: same flaws that people pointed out over the last year
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Speaker 3: or two, I don't know that it is building any
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Speaker 3: confidence whatsoever in the decision making the part Craig Stammon there,
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Speaker 3: so you know, I can't point to anything other than
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Speaker 3: his personality is not as abrasive, you know, as it
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Speaker 3: was when Mike Shuilt was here. And maybe people you
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Speaker 3: know whose names nobody really knows, you know, maybe their
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Speaker 3: lives are a little bit easier because they don't get
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Speaker 3: yelled at behind the scenes. But you know, is the
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Speaker 3: trade off that you're not going to win on the
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Speaker 3: same level, then, you know, again, I don't know that
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Speaker 3: that's really a trade off that people are willing to make,
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Speaker 3: because forty thousand people are filling that ballpark every single
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Speaker 3: night and it's not exactly been a ton of fun
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Speaker 4: Now, there last thing for me on Craig, is he
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Speaker 4: making the lineup? Because you said questionable lineup decisions and
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Speaker 4: Q and that do we know that? Is that coming
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Speaker 4: from Preller? Is that coming from up above as m
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Speaker 4: Murphy calls on the Ivory Tower or does stand and
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Speaker 4: have full, you know, full power over the lineup to
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Speaker 4: make it how he wants it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's that's a good question,
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Speaker 3: and it's probably specific to Craig Stamon. You know what
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Speaker 3: I've been told in this era where so many of
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Speaker 3: the lineup decisions are coming from front offices, I've been
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Speaker 3: told that, you know, Aj Preller doesn't do that sort
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Speaker 3: of stuff. You know that the pottery's front office may
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Speaker 3: have from their research and development department. They may have
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Speaker 3: an optimized lineup that they would present, that they might suggest,
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Speaker 3: but ultimately they're going to leave autonomy to the manager. Now,
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Speaker 3: you're not going to tell Mike Schild how to fill
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Speaker 3: out the lineup card. You're not going to tell Bob
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Speaker 3: Melvin how to fill the lineup card. Then again, those
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Speaker 3: guys only lasted two years here, right, so you know
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Speaker 3: who he really knows what was going on, and whether
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Speaker 3: that was part of the you know, the perceived friction
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Speaker 3: between the coaching staff and the front office.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how it is. With Craig Staman.
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Speaker 3: It was unusual because he came in the spring training
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Speaker 3: and one of the first things that he said, and
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Speaker 3: one of the first the lick literally the first lineup
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Speaker 3: that we saw from Peoria Arizona, Fernando Tatis Junior, who
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Speaker 3: batted leadoff in one hundred and fifty games in twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty five, who was an All Star, you know, who
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Speaker 3: did some things.
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Speaker 2: Maybe not forty home runs like.
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Speaker 3: What we saw from twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 2: But you know, he did some things.
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Speaker 3: He took a lot of pitches, he walked, He had
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Speaker 3: a high end base percentage, so you know, he did
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Speaker 3: a lot of things really well. And he seemed to
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Speaker 3: be a really good leadoff hitter for the pod race.
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Speaker 3: He seemed to be the obvious choice and the first lineup.
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Speaker 3: You know, now we're seeing him batting forth. Everybody's kind
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Speaker 3: of scratching their head, saying, wait, wait, what's that all about?
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Speaker 2: Uh, how do you not only remove him from.
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Speaker 3: The leadoff spot, but how is it that you have
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Speaker 3: him batting clean up here like you're not you're gonna
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Speaker 3: run the rest that you're not gonna get that guy
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Speaker 3: in a bat in the first inning. That kind of
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Speaker 3: seems bonkers, and Craig Stalmon had to stand up there
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Speaker 3: and explain it.
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Speaker 2: Why it was that he thought that that might be good.
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Speaker 3: For Fernando, And part of it was that I guess
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Speaker 3: Fernando said he didn't think he did a good job
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Speaker 3: in the leadoff spot.
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Speaker 2: Whatever I thought he was good.
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Speaker 3: I thought he seemed like the obvious choice, but then
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Speaker 3: he started mixing and matching, and maybe you're going to
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Speaker 3: see cronin Worth in there against righty's, and then you're
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Speaker 3: going to see maybe Sander Bogart's in there against lefties.
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Speaker 3: And then Tatis comes back from the World Baseball Classic
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Speaker 3: where he batted lead off, and then he goes back
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Speaker 3: into the leadoff spot, but he did it for a game,
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Speaker 3: and then he was batting second, and now he's in
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Speaker 3: there today against the rioty So it's just like, wait,
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Speaker 3: what's how are we arriving at these decisions. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if something has changed from from what I came
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Speaker 3: to understand with the Potters that these decisions were not
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Speaker 3: mandated by Aj Preller or anybody in his front office.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that has changed or not, but
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Speaker 3: it has been a big subject, literally since the first
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Speaker 3: game of Cactus League, when people wondered why it was
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Speaker 3: that Fernando Tatis Junior was batting clean up for the Potters,
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Speaker 3: which just doesn't make any sense to anybody.
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Speaker 5: Let's also remind fans out there who don't follow the
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Speaker 5: Padres as much that Craig Stammon was in that front
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Speaker 5: office and these ideas didn't just like poof out of
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Speaker 5: the middle of nowhere. So moving on, that microscope will continue,
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Speaker 5: and it will continue with is exact quote, Craig Stammonds
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Speaker 5: exact quote. I'd like to see us finish the game
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Speaker 5: with no challenges left, or at least challenge a little
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Speaker 5: bit more. Do you agree with him? But it does
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Speaker 5: also shed light on the fact that maybe this conversation
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Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily talked enough about, with the fact that they
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Speaker 5: had a lot of guys gone for the WBC on
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Speaker 5: this roster.
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think that that answer is in
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Speaker 3: response to something that happened the other night with Fernando
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Speaker 3: Tatis Junior where he came to bat in the ninth
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Speaker 3: inning and at least, you know, according to the you know,
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Speaker 3: the television k box that you see out there on
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Speaker 3: the screen, it was a pitch that that certainly looked
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Speaker 3: like it should have been challenged, and the potteries had
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Speaker 3: a challenge and Fernando, who who had challenged to pitch
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Speaker 3: the previous day, didn't get it overturned. And we talked
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Speaker 3: a little bit about this yesterday that that maybe he
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Speaker 3: had that in the back of his mind, or maybe
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Speaker 3: because it was at the top of the zone. It
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Speaker 3: seems like there's this idea that that pitches towards the
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Speaker 3: top of the zone are a little bit harder for
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Speaker 3: the hitters to identify.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, if that's one hundred percent accurate.
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Speaker 3: But just a theory that you see out there, and
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Speaker 3: you know, in a game where where you're you're only
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Speaker 3: you know, you're struggling to score runs to begin with.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the Potteries have only scored twelve times. They
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Speaker 3: haven't scored more than three runs in any game this year,
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Speaker 3: and you're you're kind of you know, it becomes a
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Speaker 3: little bit of a referendum, like, well, what's going on here?
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Speaker 2: Are they engaged with this? Do they know what's going on?
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Speaker 3: And it's probably unfair to say that Fernando Tatis Junior
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Speaker 3: is just not paying attention, you know, in the ninth
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Speaker 3: inning of a game where you know it's a save situation,
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Speaker 3: especially then because Jackson Merrill goes on to head a
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Speaker 3: two run homer and you're starting to now think in
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Speaker 3: your mind, well, you know, what could this have been?
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Speaker 3: But I think that's you know, they've had six overturns.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how many actual challenges. Forgive me for
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Speaker 3: not having that, but I know they've had six overturns
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Speaker 3: and their catchers have done a pretty good job. Luise Campusano,
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Speaker 3: who you know, was playing here after playing last season
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Speaker 3: in Triple A where he was accustomed to the system, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: he's brought a little bit of knowledge to you know,
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Speaker 3: how it works and how it operated in Triple A
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Speaker 3: last year.
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Speaker 2: So that's been a good thing. But but yeah, like it.
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Speaker 3: Was just weird because you know, I don't know that
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Speaker 3: it's fair to say, you know that this is a
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Speaker 3: mistake or a mental mistake for Fernando because he was
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Speaker 3: at the World Baseball Classic and maybe he didn't have
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Speaker 3: a ton of experience with it, or maybe he was
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Speaker 3: thinking about the previous challenge that didn't get overturned.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, like you don't get to take them.
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Speaker 3: With you, you know, like you got kind of use them,
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Speaker 3: especially when the game is on the line. So it
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Speaker 3: felt like it was a missed opportunity, you know, it
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Speaker 3: felt like it was a missed opportunity two nights ago
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Speaker 3: for the potteris in Fernando in particular and Yeah, people
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Speaker 3: were wondering, and so I think that's what Craig Stammond was.
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Speaker 2: Responding to, is is them.
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Speaker 3: Trying to feel their way through this, especially when they
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Speaker 3: have had players who didn't stick around like Fernando and
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Speaker 3: Many Machado for the WB.
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Speaker 5: Same seeing it for the last two games. What do
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Speaker 5: you feel like you're seeing from the Giants from a
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Speaker 5: standpoint of they're in the same division as the Padres.
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Speaker 5: Obviously the record isn't that much better than the Padres,
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Speaker 5: but you know, early on, what is it that you're
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Speaker 5: seeing from that team lineup or rotation wise.
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Speaker 3: I'm seeing a team that looks like it's relieved to
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Speaker 3: be through the first series of the year and all
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Speaker 3: the nonsense that came with Netflix and an off day
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Speaker 3: and then the second day and just like hey, sometimes,
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Speaker 3: as you all know, like sometimes just getting changing atmosphere
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Speaker 3: is you know, it's a it's a comfortable place to
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Speaker 3: be for certain guys. Maybe that's what's going to happen
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Speaker 3: to the Pottery's they're on the way to Boston and
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh here over their next couple of series.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Beata's pretty good. I think Chapman's
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Speaker 3: always really good. A Damas is pretty good.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: I think they have a lineup that that you know,
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Speaker 3: you look at. They have an ace you know, and
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Speaker 3: logan web that you you know, you certainly like. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean I think that they have some guys, especially
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Speaker 3: at the front of the rotation, that you look and think, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that could be pretty good. So yeah, I don't you know,
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Speaker 3: I didn't think they were gonna just completely melt down
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Speaker 3: to start the season, but they got a little bit
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Speaker 3: of pop.
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Speaker 2: You know. A Rise isn't hitting.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's one of those WB things that we're always
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Speaker 3: WBC things that we're we're referencing here about the guys
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Speaker 3: that played in that tournament. Not quite you know, hitting
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Speaker 3: the ground running, I guess. But it's an interesting team,
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Speaker 3: you know, always it is good. Do I think it's
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Speaker 3: a team that is obviously going to be better positioned
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Speaker 3: in the West to you know, to to finish second
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Speaker 3: behind the Dodgers. I think that's probably premature, but at
16:39
Speaker 3: least for a game when you look at a lineup
16:42
Speaker 3: and you see guys like Bata and Chapman and a
16:43
Speaker 3: Damis and you know, then there's a rise maybe.
16:46
Speaker 2: Batting in the middle of it.
16:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it looks like it's it's definitely improved
16:51
Speaker 3: from where it was a year ago.
16:52
Speaker 2: I just don't know.
16:53
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about this manager. You know, I
16:55
Speaker 3: don't know enough about this manager, and you know, some
16:58
Speaker 3: of the stuff that's been said, I know, social media
17:00
Speaker 3: clipse certainly have made him appear to be completely out
17:02
Speaker 3: of his depth. But you know, maybe that's just social
17:05
Speaker 3: media clips. You know, maybe maybe the you know, maybe
17:08
Speaker 3: the reality isn't isn't as dramatic as it would appear
17:11
Speaker 3: to be on social.
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Speaker 5: This is the microscope series because Tony Vitello is also
18:17
Speaker 5: under microscope, kind of like Craig is under microscope. Last
18:21
Speaker 5: one that's not under microscope, it doesn't even fit under
18:23
Speaker 5: a telescope is the valuation that the possible sale number
18:30
Speaker 5: that came out was three point five billion dollars. Is
18:35
Speaker 5: this just an unbelievable case of a team saying, you
18:40
Speaker 5: know what, I don't care what other people say about
18:42
Speaker 5: this market. We're gonna build this team to be followed
18:46
Speaker 5: and loved in this city. And then the valuation goes
18:50
Speaker 5: through the roof like it's obviously it's a success if
18:53
Speaker 5: that number even gets close to that number for the
18:55
Speaker 5: San Diego Padres. But seeing it, I felt this way,
19:01
Speaker 5: did you think that number would be that high as
19:04
Speaker 5: what we're hearing right now.
19:06
Speaker 3: No, I mean I thought I was starting to talk
19:09
Speaker 3: about what it would be like a two and a
19:10
Speaker 3: half billion, Like, Wow, what an amazing success story. This
19:13
Speaker 3: thing was sold in twenty twelve for eight hundred million
19:15
Speaker 3: dollars and now it's going to get sold for two
19:18
Speaker 3: point five billion.
19:19
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
19:20
Speaker 3: So to add another billion dollars on top of that
19:23
Speaker 3: and make it the high sale price in Major League
19:25
Speaker 3: Baseball history, I would be lying if I said I
19:27
Speaker 3: was prepared for that for the pod Rays, especially for
19:31
Speaker 3: a team that you know, doesn't have a lockdown television
19:33
Speaker 3: deal or one of these teams that's kind of caught
19:35
Speaker 3: in between from the regional sports network collapses and waiting
19:39
Speaker 3: for Major League Baseball to try to get everything under
19:41
Speaker 3: one roof.
19:42
Speaker 2: They're least deal.
19:43
Speaker 3: You know, Peco Park doesn't come with the team, They
19:45
Speaker 3: don't own the stadium. So yeah, and it's an incredible thing.
19:49
Speaker 3: And you know what I think it is is I
19:50
Speaker 3: just mentioned forty thousand plus every single game thus far
19:53
Speaker 3: to start season, tickets have been capped here in San Diego.
19:57
Speaker 3: People love this team, and you know, for as much
20:00
Speaker 3: as pottery fans hate the Dodgers and will definitely give
20:04
Speaker 3: me some grief for being on the same show as
20:05
Speaker 3: Max Muncy. But you know, the Dodgers inspired the Pottery's
20:09
Speaker 3: to spend money, and I think that the Pottery spending
20:12
Speaker 3: money has proven to this fan base whether they've had
20:15
Speaker 3: the type of results that are commensurate with the amount
20:18
Speaker 3: of money that's been spent. I think, you know that
20:20
Speaker 3: the Pottery is spending money and not just crying about
20:23
Speaker 3: how the Dodgers are just oh my goodness, what are
20:25
Speaker 3: we supposed to do?
20:26
Speaker 2: We can't compete. It's brought out a really good version
20:29
Speaker 2: of the Potterys.
20:30
Speaker 3: I think it's been a great example for teams all
20:31
Speaker 3: across Major League Baseball that you can do it in
20:33
Speaker 3: a market like San Diego. So, you know, I think
20:36
Speaker 3: from that standpoint, you know, you can't walk across the
20:39
Speaker 3: street in town without seeing somebody wearing some Potrey gear.
20:42
Speaker 3: I mentioned the ticket prices or you know, it's incredible.
20:46
Speaker 2: What it is that's happening.
20:48
Speaker 3: Forty thousand plus every single night Pecko Park is making
20:51
Speaker 3: money hand over fist. You know, I think it's been
20:54
Speaker 3: a great success story. I think that should be really
20:56
Speaker 3: the moral of the story here is that the Potterys
20:59
Speaker 3: and Peter Siler infested in this team in a way
21:02
Speaker 3: that a lot of people thought was kind of irresponsible
21:05
Speaker 3: and unsustainable and all these words that were used, and
21:08
Speaker 3: that family is going to walk away with an awful
21:11
Speaker 3: lot more money than I think they would have if
21:13
Speaker 3: they had tried one of these more boring and pragmatic
21:16
Speaker 3: approaches that we see in a lot of other markets
21:18
Speaker 3: around baseball.
21:19
Speaker 4: Hey, Darren, imagine when how much of pods are going
21:21
Speaker 4: to be worth after they get a salary cut?
21:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean probably, you know, but I mean, ain't
21:28
Speaker 3: having a kids, so they better sell now.
21:31
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it will either.
21:32
Speaker 3: And you know again, I mean you even like you
21:34
Speaker 3: hear guys like Maddy Machado talking about like, hey, like
21:37
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, why did we turn off the
21:39
Speaker 3: spigot here? Like we were spending a lot of money too,
21:41
Speaker 3: Like we should be still in that kind of game. So,
21:44
Speaker 3: you know, they had a strategy, and they had a
21:46
Speaker 3: general manager and a president of baseball operations who could
21:49
Speaker 3: execute the strategy really well, and he worked hand in
21:51
Speaker 3: glove with the previous owner. I mean, that's the next
21:53
Speaker 3: big question here is whether or not the president of
21:56
Speaker 3: baseball operations is going to be compatible with the next owner,
21:59
Speaker 3: whoever it be, and whatever it is that that might happen.
22:02
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I kind of laugh at all
22:05
Speaker 3: this because I do. I think that the Dodgers and
22:07
Speaker 3: the way they spent you know, it inspired the Potterys
22:10
Speaker 3: to do something that you know, they've proven that that
22:13
Speaker 3: they can do and they're going to get rewarded for it.
22:16
Speaker 3: Though it's not you know, it's unsatisfying because you know
22:19
Speaker 3: it comes following the death of a beloved owner here
22:22
Speaker 3: in town. But you know, listen, this is a business, right,
22:25
Speaker 3: It's what we're told over and over and over again.
22:27
Speaker 3: And the San Diego Potters are going to sell for
22:28
Speaker 3: over three billion dollars, like you know, seems like a
22:31
Speaker 3: pretty good deal to me.
22:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're putting on a damn show every now. Like
22:36
Speaker 1: you mentioned, I mean, that is a fun experience at
22:39
Speaker 1: the ballpark. It's a packed experience at the ballpark. And
22:42
Speaker 1: even if you have forty thousand times one hundred bucks
22:45
Speaker 1: per head, that's four million dollars per night. You do
22:48
Speaker 1: that over eighty games, even that's three hundred I think
22:51
Speaker 1: mid three hundreds mils, so just to give you an
22:53
Speaker 1: idea of how much money you can make just on
22:55
Speaker 1: the ballpark experience alone. And trust me, there're some people
22:58
Speaker 1: spending a lot more than one hundred bucks. So anyway,
23:00
Speaker 1: Darren here the man, thank you so much for joining us.
23:02
Speaker 1: Really good insight always on the padres. Love listening to
23:05
Speaker 1: you and Marty on Friar Territory and everything else you do.
23:08
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, man.
23:09
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Guys. Have a good one.