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- Ray: I'm saying I have all my responsibilities like a Sorry, I'm gonna do it. It's a cheek out right there. Mean most crack. Going on. no, we've got any six seven. I'm going through the mark to get some. JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, that was my main man, Kip Stone, Cleveland Zone. Gotta hold it down for the city. We appreciate you, Kip. That man's been doing it for quite a long time. He is very good at what he does. We always hold it down for our Cleveland artists. So if you got an artist that you want to hear doing their thing, absolutely tap in and we will get them on here. But let's get to business. Welcome to this The Hype Real Podcast. I'm your boy John B, better known as DJ Chair. I got my main man Ray with me, aka 623 AM. What's going on, Ray? Ray: Kip's own Cleveland's own. ⁓ Well ⁓ he is very good at what he does. What's going on with you, man? Good to see you, bro. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Right, can you hear me, sir? Ray: Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ we doing a ritual. We doing the ritual. That's our keep building up the hype, man. It's just the way it works. I know how Ray See the thing is with Ray, he liked to get the people interested and then he liked to pull up and show up and show out. But let's get into it real quick. So it's the Hyper Podcast. We go live every Thursday, eight PM. Once we go live, we make sure that ⁓ everybody's ready to show up and show out. see, it's a ritual, Ray. It is a ritual, bro. If it I I I don't know. Ray: Man, what is that man? I'll be on here on time, locks and loading ready, and it just never works with me. JonBE aka DJ Chill: But I've noticed every time it's like your pregame ritual. Like it's like Deshaun gotta get his massages. That's why he sucks now. He's not getting rubbed down. Shout out Deshaun Watson. No, never. That's Massage Watson. ⁓ Lord. But I was saying we go live every Thursday, 8 p.m. We got some good things coming up. ⁓ we got the NFL season coming up. I'm gonna do ⁓ live reaction Sunday to the all the Cleveland Browns games. Ray: Yeah. Yeah, no, no. Don't compare me to him, man. Besides Watson. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I'm also starting a new segment where I'm gonna do be doing bets early Sunday. Football is my it's my jam, so I'm gonna have some bets for y'all. ⁓ but what's going on, Ray? How you been? What's going on? Ray: Nice. I'm doing good, man. Good to see you, man. Ready to, you know, try to hold our end up. We got our boy Kyle doing his thing on vacation, parts unknown. So shout out to him, you know. JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ yeah. Man. Shout out Shout out to Kyle. He took a vacation. He said, Yeah, I I need a break, bro. I'm working too hard. I said, you know what? I respect it. We'll see you next Thursday. But he's still out here doing what he do, holding it down. So ⁓ I'm ready to get the business. Are you ready to get the business? All right, man. Let's talk some entertainment. Ray: I respect it, you know. Let's do it. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Are you not entertained? This is the part of the show where we talk about entertainment news and we also play a couple games, got a little thing going on. Everything music related, ⁓ everything comedy, just entertainment in general is where we touch base right here. So without further ado, I want to jump in it. ⁓ on this show, what we like to do is we like to play a game and it's called Play Share Delete. So, PlayShare Delete is a game where we run, where I'm gonna give three options to the crowd, to the chat. And also to Ray. And I am gonna make it very difficult to pick out of these three. One of them you're gonna play, one of them you're gonna share, and one of them you're gonna delete off of the planet, not a universe. I know Ray always says I over exaggerate on that, man. Yeah, I mean, shout out to Tony say intro was fire. Man, that's Kip. I'm gonna put you on. Shout out to Kip Stone, look him up across all platforms. Kip Stone, K-I-P-P-S-T-O-N-E, Cleveland Zone. Recognize. You know what I'm saying? So play, share, delete. Ray: Mm-hmm. Yes, so JonBE aka DJ Chill: I want the chat to chime in. I want Ray, I'm I'm gonna make it little difficult on you. Are you ready to play some Play Share Delete? Ray: Let's do it. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Okay. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. Play share delete. This this this edition is black comedy. We're going to do some black comedy, play, share, delete. You know, you know, they say that the some movies are just timeless. Some of them last forever. And we're definitely going to enjoy it. So I'm going to give you three movies and we're going to start off light and we're going to work our way up. But you know, it's going to be some good movies. Alright. I'm going to start you off play share delete. Pootie Tang. Ray: Mm. All right, bit. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Booty Call Blank Man Play Share Delete Crowd Chat We got Pootie Tang. Booty call, blank man. Who you playing, who you sharing, who you deleting? Ray: That was actually easier than I thought, 'cause I've always been a fan of Blank Man. I'm definitely keeping that. That's that's a funny ass movie right there, man. That's one of my favorite Wayne's movies. Like I watched it like recently, like in the past year, I think. And ⁓ it it it hold up, man. This is super funny. David Allen Greer, so I'm keeping that one. ⁓ I would share Booty Call and I'm deleting Pootie Tang. I I don't JonBE aka DJ Chill: Really? Say five. What? You deleting pooty tamer Ray: Never been a fan of Peter. I'm I like Black Dynamite. That's that's more, you know what I mean? JonBE aka DJ Chill: My man made an album with no lyrics or beat. He was out there killing it. Ray: That's one movie I just never got into, man. Like, I'm deleting it. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Dirty Dan? Ray: Nah, delete. JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ delete. All right, all right. That's fair. That's fair. All right. So crowd tap in with what you're thinking about that placehair delete. All right. So let's go with ⁓ Good Burger. The wash, Dr. Dre, Snoop. And let's go with Ride along. Kevin Hart Ice Cube. My main man said ⁓ going back to he said putty tang was ass. ⁓ Puty Tang it wasn't that Ray: Hate that movie, man. Once I found out who wrote it to, I'm like, that's is that really a black comedy? White dudes wrote it? JonBE aka DJ Chill: Come on, man. You can't hate on Pootie Tang, man. Alright. So so who you got right along? The wash. What was the last one I said? ⁓ Good Burger. Ray: Yeah. Good burger. Yeah, that went easy for me too. Good burger, keeping that. I still can watch that to this day, yeah, and laugh the same way. That's another one that holds up. ⁓ what is it? ⁓ I'm sh I'm sharing, just sharing the watch. I love the watch. That's another movie I could watch a lot, and then I'm and then I'm cutting ⁓ the leading rod along. JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ okay. Keeping good burger? Wash You didn't like Rodalong. It was cool. Out of those three. Ray: It was cool. It don't hold up to it ain't like a classic like the other movies you name. Like I'll watch it every now and then, but it ain't like I don't think I can remember not one part for real. Yeah, it's like a quotable it's a solid movie, but JonBE aka DJ Chill: A right along, yeah, me me. Okay. Let's keep it moving. So we got head of state, Chris Rock. I want to go with Low Down, Dirty Shame, Keenan Ivory Wayans. And then I want to go with senseless, Marlon Wayans. Put brother against brother. ⁓ my man Tony said the wash, good burger, Rodalong ⁓ need to ride out. Good, the Good Burger Wash. Ray: See, man, I've been on point. JonBE aka DJ Chill: t ⁓ and ride along. Yeah, so they they right there with you. They right there with you. So let's go senseless Ray: And right along it's gone. Yeah, it's out of here. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Low down, dirty shame, head of state. Ray: All right, ⁓ since we zodam. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Head of state was Chris Rock, you got senseless with Marlon Wayans, and you got Lil Down Dirty Shane with Keenan Ivory Wayne. Ray: I'm gonna keep ⁓ head of state. Even though I like I like Down the Earth a little ⁓ better. I like Down to Earth better than other Chris Rock movie, but I'm gonna keep head of state. ⁓ I'm gonna share Low Down Dirty Shane. That could've beat head head of state, but I'll I'll go head of state. And I'm getting rid of ⁓ deleting senseless, yeah, senseless. Yeah, that ain't that ain't really JonBE aka DJ Chill: Really? Senseless? Hewelly is senseless. Ray: And I really, you know. JonBE aka DJ Chill: They ain't really hitting. Ray: Cause it's a difference to me between like hood, black comedies, and black person as the lead, but like a white dude wrote it type, you know what I mean? Like that don't mean the movie's not good. It's just it's a different vibe to me than like than like the others. JonBE aka DJ Chill: the other ones? Okay. Let's keep it moving. Chat chime in. ⁓ let's go with ⁓ let's let's let's make it a little bit more difficult. Let's let's let's make it a little bit more difficult. Ray: Yeah, give me some hard ones, man. ⁓ You picking some good ones though. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Alright, let's go with let's go with ⁓ that's not really a f I guess it could be considered a funny movie. Let's go with ⁓ Black Dynamite, Harlem Knights, House Party. Ray: That's a good one. That's a real good one. But I'm definitely, I'm definitely keeping Black Dynamite. That's one of the funniest movies, period, to me. ⁓ You said House Party and what's the third one? JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yeah. Okay. I said ⁓ we'll go black dynamite, house party, and ⁓ what was the third one I said? ⁓ I forgot just that quick. Harlem Knights. Cause that black dynamite Harlem Knights, that's that's Harlem Knights was that's I'm keeping Harlem I'm playing Harlem Knights and sharing black dynamite. So you're gonna keep that one for the for the personal stash? Ray: Harlem Knights. You say Harlem Knights. ⁓ It's tough, but I'm man. I'm keeping black dynamite. Yeah, Believe it or not, I'm I'm I'm a share house party and I'm deleting Harlem Knights. Yeah. ⁓ JonBE aka DJ Chill: Okay. Okay Okay. Wow. The house party was a class, but Harlem Knights was crazy, bro. You know how many stars were in Harlem Knights? Ray: Yeah, I do. But I got a movie I think is better than that that did the same thing. So that's probably why I didn't pick it. Like Harlem Nights I could watch every now and then. The other ones I could watch almost every day, if that makes sense. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Let's go with ⁓ Major Pain, CB Fo, and Soul Man. Ray: ⁓ you gonna my list probably gonna shock you, but I'm keeping soul, man. That movie slept on, man. That might be the funniest scene ever, man. Sometimes I watch that scene without the movie, just watch the clip on YouTube. So I'm definitely keeping that. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Of course. That movie is hilarious. He said you can't hop, skip, sing or hum, motherfuck. Yes. Ray: I'm ⁓ let me see. I'll be forgetting them quick. I'm sharing JonBE aka DJ Chill: Man said Harlan Knight, B D and House Party. ⁓ my man twist said, all these movies ancient. But they black comedy genius, man. Come on, man. Ancient is crazy. Nah. Nah. All right, so C V fo, Soul Man, Major P was that Major Payne? Ray: They ain't the new ones ain't that good, man. Let's be honest. Yep, major pain. So I'm I'm sharing major pain. And I'm giving I'm deleting CB4. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Okay. That's that's funny. CB Fo was like Ranchi funny though, man. Sweat from my balls. ⁓ man, it's like slap comedy almost. All right, let's go with ⁓ rush hour. Ray: Yeah, and then they ain't really my type of funny. Yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Trading places. Nutty professor. Ray: Teepin Nutty Professor. Sharon Rush Hour deleting trading places. JonBE aka DJ Chill: You ain't like trading places. Nah. Well, out of those three, one gotta go. Name of the game. Ray: No, I liked it, but one gotta go. I mean it it ain't it ain't it ain't rush hours. ⁓ JonBE aka DJ Chill: We're gonna burn through a couple more of these as we work our way up. I mean man, Tony. Harlem Knights house party. Yeah. It's just Harlem Knights is the is the joint, man. All right, let's let's let's get into it. Let's let's let's let's get into the bag. I mean man says soul man CB foe major pain. Yeah, but he said CB foe, share. He said he said share CB foe, man. That's Ray: He said they ancient. See. Black people hit the soul man. Hey, but he said soul soul man. I'm like, I feel like that movie is like slept on. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yeah, so man's fire. Alright, so let's go let's ⁓ okay, let's go how high half bait. And life. Ray: ⁓ man, they ain't even close. Life keeping that. That's the movie I was talking about with Harlem Knights with like the the big cast. Yeah, life's top five. ⁓ Life Keeping That. ⁓ Sharing Half Bates and Cutting What's the last one? It's like a slapstick movie. ⁓ what's the third one? JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yeah. All the actors say, Where the Spike Lee joints. I said half bake, have bake, how high and life. Ray: Yeah, I'm cutting deleting high ⁓ how high. Sharing half big. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Whoa w well ⁓ Hat Bake was funniest funni as is ever, man. Ray: Hey man. Yeah, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: That's a tough one, man. Ray: I prefer that. Cause he a real comedian too, man. It's like they was funny, but they weren't like like that date, everybody related to that date, man. No, you can't cut like man. Who said that? He be trying to troll, man. I swear to God. Nah, man, you can't. It's no way, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Chris He said keep half baked, share how high and he he said he cut life. ⁓ tw Chris, he said twist said he keeping half baked, he's sharing how high and he and he's and he getting b and he getting life up out of here. Why so? Why can't you I I can't get rid of life. Life is is absolutely hilarious, bro. That is one of the funniest movies. Said Bernie Mac movies stay in my movies. Yeah, Bernie Mack, man. R.I.P. Bernie Mac. The real king of comedy, bro. The real king of comedy. He's absolutely hilarious in all movies. Alright, we're gonna do one more. We're gonna do the grand finale. My man said ⁓ half bait and how high lit. Ray: That was awesome. That's one of the best comedies. Yeah. Mm-hmm. JonBE aka DJ Chill: From start to finish. I'm that's what I'm saying, man. Start to finish. He cutting life, man. That's a tough, tough crowd. Tough crowd, man. Tough crowd. Tough crowd. My man say, life, how high, half bake is funny, but I'm with you, fam. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, so it's that half bake, but it's crazy. My man say, ⁓ say he keeping life, he's sharing half bake, he's deleting how high. Ray: He cutting life? That's insane, man. Eddie Murphy. Yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: So it's some it's some interesting back and forths in this situation, man. Like y you can't go wrong with any of ⁓ but it it seems like the consensus is I don't know, everybody I guess if you had to pick one, everybody's going with life. But it we got some switch arounds. Ray: Yeah, man. That's one of the funniest movies out of all the movies you know. You know a movie that deserved more love? I thought you was gonna say it. That I think is one ⁓ it's one more? Okay, my bad, my bad. Okay. JonBE aka DJ Chill: It ain't done yet. It ain't done. Yeah, I got one more. I got one more. And then if I don't say it, you can throw it in there. I got one more. All right, so we're gonna go with we're gonna go last one. And I'm gonna make it I'm gonna give you some options options. We're gonna go with ⁓ We're gonna go with Chris asked for some Spike Lee. Said said he said, nah, everyone chose half bait. To keep or cut. Yeah, to keep. Everybody kept half bait. Ray: Yeah, including JonBE aka DJ Chill: Everybody kept yeah, I c and I can't get mad at that, but you know, it's a lot of life. Everybody starting with life. Say life was life was too long, too many boring parts. Half bake was half bake and high high, lit start to finish. I he he I can't get mad at it. He said life the best of the best the other two toss ups. Ray: No. Yeah, I'm going with life. JonBE aka DJ Chill: So you gonna keep life? That movie was hilarious. There was some some down sides of life, but you know, all the way through Ray: But that's what make a great comedy to me is it gotta be a good movie with comedy in it versus I'm trying to make you laugh the whole movie. Cause them usually yeah, it's like that's just my opinion, like. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Said the whole movie. Okay. I I ain't mad at it. We're gonna I'm gonna throw you a four piece combo before we get up out of here. My man said, Negative. Negative to what, Pharaoh? All right. You gotta gotta you gotta fill me in. All right, so the last one before we get up out of here. Beverly Hills cop. All about the Benjamins coming to America. Friday. Ray: Yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Play share delete. Ray: Stuff. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yeah. So we got Coming to America Friday, all about the Benjamins and Beverly Hills Cop. Ray: Well I know the the the the one I'm cutting is Beverly Hills Cop and the one I'm keeping is f I'm keeping Friday. Of course I'm keeping that. Yep. For sure. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Getting Beverly Hills Cap out of here. So you playing Friday? You playing Friday over coming to America. She's your queen to whoopie. That was fire. Ray: Sure. Coming to America got some parts I'm like, ⁓ they cool with Friday all the way through, man. I'll be watching that for the rest of my life. But I was ⁓ as far as funny, I was gonna say ⁓ all about the Benjamin 'cause that's one of the funniest movies, but JonBE aka DJ Chill: Most definitely. Yeah. Ray: I gotta cut. I gotta cut all about the Benjamins. Share coming to America. Keep Friday and delete Beverly Hills cop. Even though I love all about the Benjamins. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Okay. I mean my twist said Keith Friday, share coming to America. So what what so you cutting everything else? Everything else gotta go. I respect it. I respect it. He he right there with you. Ray: Yeah, yeah. Yep. 'Cause Beverly Hills cop ain't that funny. He tried to be more serious in that movie. Action. Yeah, coming to America's that's like that's definitely up there. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Coming to America was Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think I would say, in my personal opinion, I would have to play Coming to America, share Friday, and everything else can kinda go. You you can't go wrong with either, man. Friday was just that classic funny, funny movie, you know what I'm saying? But Coming to America was just banging all the way through, man. He said, What is that? Velvet? It's beautiful. Ray: Yeah, yeah. There's no way I'm getting responsible. Yeah. Yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Everybody wanna talk about Joe Lewis. Hey, whoop, Rocky Massiano. Come on, the barbershop scene was just classic comedy, man. Alright, Jack, keep chiming in with your thought process. We're gonna keep it moving. So I wanna I wanna ask some questions to the chat. ⁓ I wanna ask, and it's another music question. We're still in the entertainment phase. Question is to the chat and the U Ray, who made more classic albums? So I'm gonna give you two artists and you can use their whole disography of everything they did. Ray: Yeah, it was JonBE aka DJ Chill: My man Tony popped in. He said, Friday coming to America all about the Benjamins. That's fair. I can't get mad at that either way. I can't I can't knock you. I can't say that's stupid. That's that's a good list. So we're gonna say who made more classic albums? And I'm gonna give you two artists and chat I want y'all to chime in too. Ray: Mm-hmm. Exact same listen to me, Hill. Before you get in there, I gotta show this movie some love, cause you didn't say it. Three strikes, man. Three strikes is one of the funniest movies. Like that's top five from that's up there, bruh. I swear. No, you talking about money talks. Yeah. Three strikes, bruh. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Go ahead. I didn't which one is it? I had that one, but I skipped ⁓ my man said that it did it have you like this? Or did it have you like this? So hey man Well yo, hey talks. That's money talks. I missed that one too. He was fast. He had his booty in the air and money got shot in that shot in the back side. Yeah. Alright. So yeah, shout out three strikes. ⁓ so we're gonna go artist versus artists. Who had the best discography? Who made the but is who made the most classic albums? My main man Farrell said Harlem Knights. Ray: Yeah. Yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Life and Friday, my top three best funny movies, hands down. My man said Brian Hooks off the chain. Yeah, yeah, he is. He's hilarious. I give you that. I give you that. Alright, so artists versus artists. Chad, I want y'all to chime in. I want y'all to tell me what you think. We're gonna start off, and these are all these are killers. These are all killers. Let's just get it out the way. Let's rip the band-aid off. Artists versus artists. Who made more classic albums? Jay-Z or Nas. Ray: That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good time too. Man, you're gonna start off with Tazy and Nazman. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Off top. Off top. Let's just let's just rip the band-aid off. Who made more classic albums? Not who made more albums. Who made more classic albums? Albums that are repeatable. Albums that are timeless. Jay Z or Nas? Ray: That's a tie, man. That's a tie. I'm sorry, man. Uneventful answer, that that's a tie. Like they both got like 20 albums. JonBE aka DJ Chill: You can't I Man He meant to say he meant to say Hover, but he said Nova. I got you ⁓ I got you sauce. He said Hover. Hover made more classic albums than Naz. My man Farrell said Jay Z. Ray: Mm. That's the top for me, probably. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Hover. Yeah. So it's a tie for you. You can't you can't go either way. Both of them said classic album Dysography, Jay Z and I've Ray: Nah, nah. Cause they both came with late ones when you thought thought it was over, you know. Jay-Z came with four forty-four when you thought it was over. ⁓ that's what I'm saying. He came with magic. I love magic. Yeah, so it's it's tough, man. I ain't gonna tie no more, but that one, that one's a tie. I got I just love both of them, so. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Okay. Yeah, the one with Hitboy was crazy. The one he made with Hitboy was real nice. I like that one. Yeah. Nas made that. Yeah, that was nice. I like that. So the qu the chat's crip saying Jay Z. ⁓ so that's that's that's four or nothing Jay Z so far. I I can respect it. All right. You say that's a tie saying no more ties. You pulling the cowl on me, man. That's what cow would do. It's a tie. Like, come on man, you make it You making it difficult on Ray: No more ties, man. That one is really tough. Like if the list was up, I think it'd be easier. But I'm like, just off the top, I'm gonna say. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I mean Farrell said Nas has some mediocre stuff. Ray: Jay Z Jay Z did too. They both did. They've been around you've been around that long. You gonna drop some stuff that ain't as good as some other stuff. Yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: That ain't the classics. So you say this right here, this one right here is a tie. You're gonna just say it's a wash for you. Okay. All right, let's let's go ahead, finish your thoughts, sir. Ray: For me, yeah, for me. Yeah. No, I said they're equals. They're equals at this point for me. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Fair enough. Fair enough. ⁓ okay. Let's switch it up a little bit. Who made more classic albums? fifty cent of the game. Ray: For me, is is game, is game. He he don't have the more impactful classic album. Like Get Rich is over everything, obviously, but Game is a more consistent rapper to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was a game, a game fan, but I'm not going to deny the impact of ⁓ Get Richard die trying. But I will say game got more classics because game game whole focus is music. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Okay. Over the documentary. Over the documentary. Yeesh. Okay. Ray: Fifty kinda ventured into other things when once he wasn't as hot no more. So but I give fifty two and game probably got three. So he probably went by one. Yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: My man Tony say game. So he agrees with you. I I say overall classic albums. Yeah, I I would go with game. 50 had the one that's Get Richard.triump was the hottest thing on the planet when it dropped. Ray: Yeah. And I think massacre I think massacre classic in my eyes, but I think game probably JonBE aka DJ Chill: Game is underrated. And that and and I'm I must I'm gonna leave I'm gonna I'm gonna say this. I had an unpopular opinion. And my unpopular opinion is you know, it was ⁓ there's a rapper that's that's that should be in the big three, and I think that's game. Rapping rapping game is up there with your Kendrick Labar, J. Cole, Drake. Rapping, just pure rap? I think he's big three. And I'm also gonna take it one more step from my unpopular opinion and take it a little bit more our father ⁓ further. Ray: Green. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Game might be a top ten rapper all time. Ray: That's a better that's a better unpopular opinion than than the first one. Big three, like, nah, he ain't in a big three. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Game might be he might be he might be in big three ⁓ rapping, just pure rapping? Game might is definitely I think he could be in the big three right now. And I think he's a top ten rapper of all time. And no in no order. I don't he might be ten, but I think he could be put on the list of top ten rappers of all time. My main man Farrell said fifty cent first album kills everything game made. That's that's that's heavy. That's a heavy lift, man. Ray: Nah a whole career? No. Mm mm. JonBE aka DJ Chill: His h right. His it kills his whole career. That's I I love it. I love the thoughts. Keep keep keep coming in with the thought process. But that's my unpopular opinion. I think game could be part of the big three right now. Rap for rap. My man said so he's as he said, Hell nah. To what? To being in a big three or him being top ten all time. I think he could be Ray: Yeah, I di I disagree. I disagree with that. 'Cause big three ain't you know it's more than just it's more than just rap. I hate to say it. You know the big three is JonBE aka DJ Chill: I'm just saying in the rap phase, if you put ⁓ up bar for bar against each other, he could compete with any of those guys and probably beat a lot of them. Ray: In his prime, I think so, but he's n he's not in his prime, ⁓ lyrically for me, no more. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Say he name dropped too much. Game kinda ass. You gotta in the beginning I said I I said the same thing. But then if as I listened to the rest of his disography, it w he started paying more homage. When Drake name dropped and stuff is paying homage. But when game name dropped, he ass. Like I come on now. Come on. It is a it's that's what I said. That's why I picked it as my unpopular opinion. Alright. Go on with game? Okay, fair enough. Ray: That's why it's an unpopular opinion though, I mean But I'm going with game on that one, yeah. Mm-hmm. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Alright, got another one for you. This one should be kind of interesting. Who's got more classic albums? Kendrick or J. Cole. Ray: All respect to J. Cole, but this one is easy, easy for me. Kendrick. Kendrick got Yeah, Kendrick is Kendrick is only behind Kanye to me, as far as classics. Like, it's like a, you know, Kendrick and Jay-Z is the closest to Kanye as far as classic albums to me. Maybe even Outcast. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Kendra got more classic albums than J. Cole, in your opinion? Mm. Man Brian said, I like game, but I have to put his catalog against Get Rich or Die Trying. Why is everybody putting his whole catalog up against one album? I ain't mad at it. Ray: Yeah, against one album, like no man game got some great albums, man. But JonBE aka DJ Chill: He said against top rapper. Yeah, I think that's my unpopular opinion. I think he could be in the big three. Maybe I don't think he he's going to because of popularity and everything. But I also think he could be top ten all time MCs. But I that's my unpopular opinion. So you say you say you take Kendrick over J. Cole, go ahead, finish your thought. I my bad I. Ray: Yeah, I ⁓ I got Kendrick in in that category, definitely. Yeah. I'm I'm a fan of both of them though. That's that's that's clear. JonBE aka DJ Chill: For classic albums. So if you had to pick one from each is their top album, who you got? Which which which album you picking out? If you gotta say Kendrick's album versus J. Cole album, who who you going with? You know, butterfly. People love to pimp a butterfly, man. Like i Yeah, it it was a good album. It was a good album. It it was a good album. Ray: ⁓ the pimp to pimp a butterfly from for Kendrick. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's it's one of them albums that is polarizing. People love it or they or they you know they hate it or just didn't get it. I was one of the people who loved it from day one. That's my favorite Kendrick album. You know. Yeah. Yeah. And I like albums that play all the way through. That one is you you can't really play those songs by themselves if you have to play the whole album. And I like that. JonBE aka DJ Chill: They dislike it. Yeah. Yeah. I c I can res I can see that, 'cause you are all intertwined to the art of music in itself. It's not They have the connective tissue. Ray: Yeah, yeah. So I'm gonna go with that. And for J. Cole is ⁓ probably forest he'll drive if we not counting mixtapes. 'Cause if we count mixtape, yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ I'll say for Forest Hill Drive. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Just say albums. Just say albums. Real albums. I mean, say K Doc got more classic albums than than J. Cole. Fair enough. Chad keep chiming in. ⁓ said, I said, I'm a Cole fan, but Kendrick, but I got Kendrick on this. Ray: Yeah. Yeah, that category for sure. Mm-hmm. JonBE aka DJ Chill: On the classic album side, yeah, I can respect it. It's it's a hard way it's a hard way to to run with it. All right, we're gonna we're gonna lighten it up a little bit but still keep it we're gonna we're gonna take it to the female side of the game. Who's got more classic albums? Cardi B or Nicki Minaj? Ray: ⁓ this I I said I wasn't gonna do it again, but this is another tie. They both no, this one it makes sense though. When I said it a tie for Jay-Z and Nas was because I really didn't want to pick between two of my favorites. But with this one, it's legit a tie because I feel like they both have one. So it has to be a tie. Like I think Nikki Nikki ⁓ first album, ⁓ Pink Friday and and JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ come on, man. Hmm. Ray: And ⁓ Cardi B first album, Invasion of Privacy, both of them could be considered like classics. You know what I mean? Based on impact, all of that good stuff. So that's a tie just based off of them probably having one apiece. And I did like Pink Print a lot. Like, I wouldn't be mad if somebody said that was a classic, but two, ⁓ they both got one guaranteed. So JonBE aka DJ Chill: Fair enough. My man E popped in a little late. What up, E? He said, Cole for me, dog. He said Cole got more classic albums. Sauce Money said, Cardi got one album and don't make sense. What don't make sense? You gotta expand on that thought. I don't that that don't make sense. I d ⁓ people call her the greatest thing ever. Right. To slice bread. Ray: Yeah, man. She got one album. Lauren Hill got one album. If it's good, it's good. Yeah. She can have one album is if it's good. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I think single-wise, I I give it to Cardi, but album-wise, I give it to Nikki. Nikki made more of an impact with her album, with her fan base, than Cardi did. Cardi was like the the the second wave of those, that type of female rap, but she made her own lane with it. You know, Nikki made it cool to be the Barbie-ish type rapper with the big butt and you know. Ray: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Real girly, but she is a monster on the rapping side. I don't care who wrote for, but so is Cardi. So it is what it is. My main man said ⁓ she can't compete with Nikki. She can't compete with Nikki with that one. Now, is that you talking or or is that or is that a lady friend talking for you? Because women love Nikki Minaj. She got a whole she got a whole fan base. Cardi has more than one album. Cardi has more than one album. Ray: And they both got crazy fan bases. JonBE aka DJ Chill: So that's that's one for one for Nikki, one for Cardi. Chat say, I'm biased. Give me Cardi. My main man Farrell say, Nikki. I need y'all to expand on some of these thought processes of why y'all picking who y'all picking. I I appreciate y'all for for for tapping in. We're gonna keep moving, but don't be afraid to time to shine back in with your thought process. So you you you gonna take who did you tell you took Nikki? Or you said it's a tie. You on these ties, man. Yeah. Ray: No, I took a top without they both got one classic. They got one both got one classic, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: You said you wasn't gonna do it no more, man. All right. I got I got one more. I got one more. The peace lyrics is don'ts. Who has more classic albums? Not mixtapes, not not singles, classic albums. Lil Wayne of Drake. Ray: Hey man. I didn't know you was gonna come with Nikki and Cardi. All right. Man, in my opinions, no, I ain't gonna say tire. I ain't gonna say, I got you. You gotta k keep people entertained. I ain't gonna keep doing ti, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: You better not say tie again, man. Lil Wayne Lil Wayne or Drake, who has more classic albums? Ray: May be unpopular to y'all, but I think I think I think Drake got more classic. JonBE aka DJ Chill: O Ooh, I don't use for this say that. Why? Then Wheezy F Baby? The Kata? Kata two? Kata three? Five hundred degrees? Ray: I think great. I don't think I don't think he he Yeah, I I love I love all the albums you named, but you said who got more classics? Albums too, like mixtapes was involved, it'd be a different might be a different conversation, but straight albums is Drake for me. Cause I feel like Drake make more his albums feel more more focused, you know. I feel like Lil Wayne's feel more like a collection of songs, which is still great, but JonBE aka DJ Chill: Not mixed tapes. Not mixed tapes. Straight album. Ray: They don't have like the the theme that Drake albums be having. Wayne just be like, I'm gonna out-rap you for 15 songs throwing in it. You know what I mean? Like I don't I don't look at him like album dude. You know what I mean? Like he's just like great rapper and all that. Like, ⁓ he got great albums. I'm not saying he don't, but compared to Drake, because I love Carter one. I'm a Carter one person. Me and your me and ⁓ your brother argue about this all the time. I'm a Carter one person. JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ Right, right. Ray: But I love Carter 2. I love Carter Three. And that's kind of where I stopped being like a, you know, really locking in with every album was after Carter three. But with Drake, I feel like I feel like he came out the gate. You know what I mean? Pretty pretty much elite. Wayne had to earn his respect. It was like a slow build. He was just looked at as the, you know, one of the members of the Hot Boys. You know, people didn't re respect him lyrically. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yeah. Mm, mm, mm. They said he was like the Missy Elliott of of the Hot Boys. Ray: Pretty much. But I mean he he earned his respect. You know what I mean? It took a long time, but he one of the greatest. Everybody knows that. But he also gave birth to somebody that pretty much might have passed him. Yeah. So and that's what you want. So he put on the biggest artist in the world. And I I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with Drake. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Surp surpassed him in your opinion? Yeah. Let's dive back into the chat. They said, we'll go back and say, I feel Nikki's more gimmicky. That's fair. She has but they both had the gimmick phase. My man Strong said, Drake trash. That's it. End of story. I can't say he trash. Ray: Man, come on, man. I get it if you don't like on, but trash. JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ man, man, Sauce said, I never listened to one Drake album song. One song, one Drake album song for song twice. Whoa. Whoa. Let's not let's not get over our skis here, man. Drake had a run. Let's let's let's bring up the disography, man. I gotta bring it up now. Man, listen here. So Sauce, this, this, this, I I gotta, we gotta talk about this, man. We gotta talk. Ray: That's crazy, man. Yeah, man, that's insane, man. Fifteen year run by mistake. ⁓ JonBE aka DJ Chill: So his disography is Thank Me Later. That that could be considered classic. Take care. Ray: Definitely a classic. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Nothing was the same. Them three right there is classic albums. That was okay. No. What? Ray: ⁓ not not thank me later for me. That was okay. No. No. When the last time you listened to that? JonBE aka DJ Chill: About two, three weeks ago. Ray: Nah, I don't believe. I don't believe. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Chat going crazy. They say early on Drake for me. Early on Drake for me. Respect. Say say Wayne fell off. My Brian said Wayne fell off, but Drake a runner up and bro tripping Carter Ford go hard. Ray: I think he even admitted it. Yeah. I was mad when I bought the album. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Said his features cold, but albums be mid ASF. Talking about, talking about ⁓ talking about who are you talking about? Wait a let me go back up and look at that. He's talking about Drake. Said his features cold, but his albums be mid ASF. I c I can't say all of them be mid, man. I I can't even get let's go over, let's go over, let's go over Wayne's disography. So so Ray: My way. I ⁓ I disagree, man. Yeah, like JonBE aka DJ Chill: So I d okay, so let me finish and I'm gonna give you you n you name you say classic or no classic. Chat, you chime in. Thank me later. Take care. Nothing was the same. Views. Ray: No, yeah. Yep. Maybe. That's a arguable. No. No. Good album, no. No. No. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Scorpion. Certified lover boy. Honestly never mind. For all the dogs. Iceman. You would consider Iceman a classic? Okay. Maid of Honor and Habibit. Habibit. Okay. So that's you we said, so that's two. That's that's a mixtape. That's a mixtape. That's a mixtape. Yeah, that was, but it was pretty much like a All right, let's let's let's go let's go to Wayne. Let's go to Wayne Disography. I'm gonna read it off and I want the chat to chime in too. Lil Wayne. I want to make sure I get it right. Okay. Lil Wayne Disography. Here we Ray: No, no, no, no. If you reading this don't count, well yeah, that's a mixtape. Damn. Damn. Mm-hmm. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Boom boom boom. Lil Wayne Disography. ⁓ the block is hot. Lights out. Five hundred degrees. Ray: Great album, nope. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Carter. Carter two. Carter three. Ray: Yes. Yes. Yes. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Rebirth. Ray: No. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I am not a human being. Nothing else after the human being. The Carter Carter Foe? Ray: Nothing else after that. You ain't even got a name. I know he got three hundred ⁓ No, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Court of FAS! Ray: Mm mm. JonBE aka DJ Chill: So you got so right there, that's three versus two. So you your Ray: No, three verse three views is like JonBE aka DJ Chill: Views three you say three bangers for show with the Carter, the Carter two and the Carter three. That's three bangers for show. Drake got two. So that's saying Wayne has more classic albums than Drake. Ray: Views is a classic for real, but Mm. But you say I can JonBE aka DJ Chill: 'Cause you wanna add nothing was the same or ⁓ you know what I that what's the one? That was the album, bruh. Ray: that was an album, bruh. He just put a mixtape title on it. It wasn't like a Wayne mixtape, other people beats. It was his beats. That's why I say that. That's when that's an album. JonBE aka DJ Chill: He that you could yeah, I guess if you put that one in there, you can go three for three, but then you gotta add all the yeah, it was all his beats. I give you that. ⁓ let's get into the chat. My main man st I named all the Drake albums. He said trash, trash, trash, trash, trash. God, man. Said dude made a song named Shabang. Get the F out of here. He ain't mess ain't messing with Drake. He said, I'm a Wayne fan. Ray: Crash. That's crazy, man. I need to hear why, man. Yeah, that's crazy. JonBE aka DJ Chill: He said, I'm a Wayne fan, but Drake's stand power is unprecedented. So i it it we got some we got a split down the middle right here when it comes to who had more classic albums between these two guys. Ray: That's cause that's cause people don't like Drake, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: They don't like him as a person or they don't like ⁓ as a artist. Ray: All the above. It's just not light, man. People love Wayne. JonBE aka DJ Chill: They do love Wayne. I I love Wa I like them both, but so I I would still have to it's for me, this one's a tie. Ray: That's a that's a good one. 'Cause I like let's be honest, man. Like Wayne put him on. It's like we love Wayne, but I think it there was a point when Wayne was clearly better than him, but over time I I just think he passed him. That's my opinion. JonBE aka DJ Chill: It's a time. It said ⁓ Lil Wayne's mixtape era was on fire. We're not talking mixtapes. We talking actual albums. And that's the hard part. Getting actual albums. Like that and that's what splits up the men and the boys. You know what I mean? And the women and the girls. Actual albums, not the mixtape. Because if that's the case, game gave fifty a run for his money with his mixtapes. I'm just saying. I'm Ray: Definitely. When you're talking mixtapes, albums, yeah. Mm-hmm. Are you yeah, that's facts. That's a good point. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I'm just saying. The same thing. If you want to go Kendrick J. Cole, that would eclipse one of the it would it would shift the dynamic. Now we can talk about that next week. That's what we'll do. We'll go, we'll go who had more classic mixtapes. We'll go with that one next week. And I'm gonna switch up some of the artists. All right. Chad, keep chiming in with your thought processes. We're gonna ⁓ we're gonna switch it up a little bit. Let's get into a little bit of sports. You wanna talk about some sports? Ray: Greatest mixtapes. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. JonBE aka DJ Chill: All right. Alright, y'all. Breaking news, breaking news. Y'all know y'all done heard about it. They've been talking about it. ⁓ somebody done got a head top messing around in this NBA. They they played around and got caught. Kawhi Leonard and the LA Clippers have messed up big time. So I want to ask you the breaking news is the NBA will punish the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard with the following for the salary cap circumvention investigation. The LA Clippers will lose five first-round picks, $30 million fine to the owner, suspension of Ballmer and some of his affiliates, and Leonard gets a $700,000 fine. He will, you know, there will be no contract void or suspension for Leonard. So did Kawhi Leonard and the owner ruin the Clippers' chance, the little chance they had, to actually ever make any type of impact in the NBA with this move? What's your thoughts? Ray: Personally don't think so. I don't think it makes a difference because you ⁓ that's a franchise that's just like it just they just never get it right. Like 'cause to be honest, the only time they had respectability was Lob City and when they first got Kawhi and Paul George. When that first happened. They was they was no, no, I don't think Baron Davis ⁓ he was still good, but the team wasn't like JonBE aka DJ Chill: Damn. What about Baron Davis error? Ray: Memorable, you know what I mean? ⁓ but yeah, that was the only two eras I can remember where the Clippers was actually like, well, they might actually do something, you know? The COVID era when they first got ⁓ Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. But once we seen what it was, Kawhi wasn't playing that much, and Paul George wasn't elite as he was from ⁓ OKC and Indiana. I think we got this. And Doc Rivers, I believe, was their coach at one point. And he kind of, you know what I mean? He got his one championship and just stopped, stopped elevating to me. So I don't know. I personally feel like they that was their chance to really do something. You know, when LeBron was on the Lakers and they was competing every year, that was their one chance, the COVID era. And then after that, they just start doing clippers stuff. JonBE aka DJ Chill: He was. He can't coach. Ray: Because culturally, I think they similar to the Browns. I just mean, like, I think they similar to the Browns, man. Like, we huge Browns fans, but that they franchise reminds me of they like the NBA version of the Browns, man. It's just like they always feel like they about to do something, then they do, they do something you expect them to do to set them back seven years. Like most teams is like, ⁓ we had an injury, we bad for next year. The Browns and the Clippers, they do stuff that set them back five years. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Clipper stuff. Of course. Can't get it right. Ray: So you waiting five seasons trying to get back somewhere. Then when you get there, something else happened. You set back another five seasons. You know what I mean? So I feel like this is what that is. All the draft picks is gone. So they're gonna they're gonna be probably not that good. They're gonna be decent because Brandon Ingram and ⁓ Darius Garland are solid players. And it's still LA, so people might come there if they can't go to the Lakers. But I just think they just one of them teams that just They should have just moved. They should have just moved. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Hm. I respect it. Ray: They could have, they could have turned into the Sonics. You know? Just get away from LA, man. But they got that new arena, so they ain't going nowhere. And ⁓ and the punishment was soft to me, because I mean, they knew they couldn't really do nothing to Steve Balmer. He he makes too much money. He's too rich. What can you really do? A fine is not gonna hurt him. You can't kick him out the league because he brings too much money. He literally built the arena because he felt like it. JonBE aka DJ Chill: They could have. No, it's too big of a market, man. Ray: With his own money, basically. So it was like, what are what are you gonna do? And Kawhi is not a ⁓ a player that caused trouble, so he can play the aloof dude that didn't know no better. He quiet, he don't say too much. And it's like, man, that's 700,000 ain't nothing. He on his way to Toronto, man. He literally went to another country, like yeah. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Pretty much. Not at all. He outta there. And he got the country. And yeah, he I got my money and bounced. My man my man Bryan said, ⁓ yes, they will remain trash and Leonard got off easy. I definitely think that they just keep digging themselves into a bigger hole. When you're a team like the Clippers and you and you're the the little brother team, you're the team in the basement compared to the Lakers, the Lakers could be the worst team in the league and more people are gonna root for the Lakers than they'll ever root for the Clippers. Ray: Facts. Facts. Mm-hmm. Yep. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Like you said, they had their runs with Live City and they had their run when Kawhi first got there. They had all the hype and everything looked like it was gonna be on the up and up and as far as them rising, but they even knew it was over. That's why they went and traded ⁓ It was as bad as they traded ⁓ for those picks and now they will never, ever get to use those picks. My man Faro says seven hundred thousand is go to the mall money for the claw. It ain't really Ray: Mm-hmm. Facts. Thanks, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: He about to get another two hundred million dollar contract from Toronto and it's gonna be like it never happened to him. It's gonna be like it never happened. Ray: Man, come on, bruh. Exactly. I could make this go away. That's funny though that ⁓ you read the details. They banned his his his his uncle. It just look like your uncle? Yeah, don't bring him back. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Bam, they up out of here, bruh. Like he can't come. He not allowed over here no more. So yeah, I I think they're gonna remain trash, unfortunately. I don't see any way to get up out of that slump. Like you it's just one of those teams where it just the BS just surrounds them and they're gonna forever be in a bad spot. I just wanted to touch base on that and talk about it. I got one more th Ray: Yeah. And it's the West. JonBE aka DJ Chill: And it's Andrew in the West, but the East is looking so great. And we're going to talk about that more. And no, it's not basketball season, but I want to talk about that more next week. I want to get on one more thing before we get out of here. We're against the clock. And I want to run something down real quick. And I want the chat to chime in. We're going to we're not going to spend too much time on it because we got to get out of here. But I really want to talk about it. Is if you had a little time for me, right? Just a couple more minutes. Let's do it. Ray: You in the West. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready. JonBE aka DJ Chill: So in the NFL season with less than what, eight days away, ten days away, a list came out of the greatest, the top fifteen greatest NFL players of all time. Not regardless of position. And I wanna run this list down and I want you to tell me do you agree and if you disagree, who should be in there and who should not be in there? Or who we missing? You ain't gotta tell me who you can't take out, but who we missing. Ray: Okay. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I just need a couple of people. So of course, I'm gonna I'm gonna start from the bottom. At number 15, they got Emma Smith. Number 14, they got Walter Payton. Number 13, they got Mean Joe Green. Number 12, they got Barry Sanders. Number 11, Ray Lewis, 10, Patrick Mahomes, 9, Peyton Manning. 8, Aaron Donald. 7, Anthony Manoes. People don't know who he is. He's a he's an offensive tackle. 6. Joe Montana. Five, Reggie White, four, Lawrence Taylor. Three, Jim Brown. Two, Jerry Rice. And number one, the Go to Goats, Tom Brady. Out of that list, you didn't know who this was on this list. I just I bring this list up. Who's missing out of that top fifteen? In your opinion, who should be on that list that's not on the list? Or are you good with this list? Ray: ⁓ near the top is pretty good, but the bottom I I think I can name at least eight players that should be on there that's not on there, in my opinion. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Give me thive me three. Ray: Three. ⁓ one one that should be on there that's not on there in my opinion is let me see. Hmm. Can you really you said the last last five people was who? JonBE aka DJ Chill: Last five people, ten to five, ten, Patrick Mahomes. Eleven Ray Lewis. twelve Barry Sanders. thirteen Mean Joe Green. fourteen Walter Peyton. fifteen Emmett Smith. Ray: Okay, cool. ⁓ I don't I don't know, man. I feel like Adrian Peterson should be on there. Yeah. Randy Marsh was on there. That's that's that's one of the people I was gonna name. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I mean, Adrian Peterson, my main man said, Where's Randy Moss? Everybody asking where's prime time? Where's Dion? Yeah. Ray: Where's Prime Time? It's another one. Deion Sanders, Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson, JJ Watt, Charles Woodson. I don't see none of them on there. Ed Reed. Ed Reed. ⁓ them a couple of them. I'm not mad at you said what? JonBE aka DJ Chill: None of them. Every yeah? man said, Emma Smith, thumbs down. Do a Pharaoh said Emma Smith, thumbs down. Ray: I think Adrian Peterson is better than Emmett Smith. I'm sorry. I know he got the stats, but get Adrian Peterson in that Dallas Cowboys line. This dude was running with nothing. And Taurus ACL came back, still was dominant. ⁓ he still was dominant. Yeah, it's like co MVP is Yeah, that's not even a thing, man. They ain't want to give it to a running back. But yeah, that's that's five right there. Dion AP, Ed Reed. JonBE aka DJ Chill: ⁓ my goodness. One co MVP. He was the only person that won co MVP. That's not even a thing, bro. JJ What? Ray: Charles Wilson, JJ White. JonBE aka DJ Chill: May man said Miles. He said Miles should be top fifteen greatest player in NFL history. Ray: I'm not mad at ⁓ Joe Thomas. You wanna put some lineman on there? The dude was a pro bowl from day one to the end. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Trent Trenton Richardson. He wanna put lineman on there. He's a dog. 49ers lineman. Yeah. So it Ray: Like putting yeah. Yep. Larry Allen. It's it's it's a lot of people that ain't on there that should be on there, in my opinion. JonBE aka DJ Chill: So this is just a list, man. They said this is the greatest of all time. And they they they left a lot of old school cats off. So I'm pretty sure a lot of old heads is probably pissed about that. Ray: ⁓ yeah, for sure. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Absolutely. I mean ⁓ you know, old heads is always in our era of football, we played men's football. You know. Ray: Yeah. Yeah man. Y'all ain't had athletes like ⁓ ain't no way Randy ain't no way Randy Mars shouldn't be on there. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Like Aaron Donald. I that's d I'm surprised prime time's not on there. I think the NFL has a real problem against Dion, man. Like they really just don't like this dude. Like Ray: Yeah, I'm surprised Dion They do. They always have. It's like Barry Bonds at baseball. They don't wanna give ⁓ credit. But it's like, how you don't got Dion on there? That don't even make sense. JonBE aka DJ Chill: It it is almost it's insulting to the game of football because Deion Sanders is he he he made the shutdown corner. He he made it a thing. Like he said he didn't even know the playbook. He would just go up against the best guy. My man E said, Where the hell is Deion Sanders? Right, exactly. Like what we doing? He said, Sean Taylor, I know it was a short, but yet can't deny the talent. All time with a top fifteen. All time? Fi top fifteen? Ray: Mm-hmm. Yeah. X. You ain't got prime time on there. I used to love Sean Taylor. I can't put him top fifteen though. Nah. He ain't he ain't over Ed Reed. He ain't over Troy Palomalu. ⁓ that's that's another player who probably could argue was in there. Yup, yup, Brian Dawkins. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Ish. Yeah. Brian Dawkins. You know, Brian let's not forget. Well maybe I said what about Terra Owens? Does Terra Owens a top fifteen player of all time? Ray: Not top fifteen. He he up there, but no I ain't got him I can't put him in fifteen. 'Cause if Randy Moss ain't in there, it's like JonBE aka DJ Chill: I'll t I don't understand how Randy maybe because he didn't win a championship. Is that what it is? Let's see. Who who on this list did not win a championship? Let's see. Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Jim Brown did not win a championship. Not a not an NFL Super Bowl. He won a championship, world championship. He didn't win no Super Bowl. Lawrence Taylor was MVP rookie of the year, defensive player of the year, and a Super Bowl champion all at once. Ray: Every the whole list can't just be championships, man. He dominated. Yeah, you exist yet. Mm-hmm. As I said, rings just confuse people, man. Just JonBE aka DJ Chill: Bye. Reggie White, Joe Montana, Anthony Me, Anthony Munez, Aaron Donald, he did not. He did not. Peyton Manon, Patrick Mahomes, Ray Lewis, Barry Sanders did not win one. Me and Joe Green, they won. Walter Payton, they didn't win one. And Emma Smith won a couple. So there's guys on there who didn't win championships that are on this list. Randy Moss was a one of one. Ray: He didn't win one. The Bengals never won. Yeah. And Pat Pat Pat should be hired and Payton to JonBE aka DJ Chill: Really? Ray: Yeah. For me. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Why should why why is that, in your opinion? Ray: He's better at everything, be honest. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Said he a top three receiver though. Randy Moss is a top three receiver. He's a top three receiver. Ray: Yeah, Randy, Randy deserved to be on there. Undeniably. Who did you who did you think? 'Cause you like really love football. So I'm like, anybody that we name that you like, yeah, come on. I know Dion. I know Dion. That's like no question. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Out yeah, the prom Yeah, yeah. All day. ⁓ I because it's it's fifteen. It's fifteen. So you can definitely take off Anthony Munez and I would say like like a a Joe Thomas. And that's not even being a homer. Joe Thomas came out the gate bawling. Balling. All time great. Ray: But I feel like Yeah, it's tough. Mm-hmm. Jonathan Ogden, you wanna talk line, man? That dude was unstoppable, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: You know what I mean? Said ⁓ here we go. He right. He said Walter did win the eighty five Bears. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Good call. Good call. Ray: ⁓ yeah. That proved our point though. It's like, ⁓ just just cause you win a championship, you on the list is like, nah man. Cause you can't tell me they didn't win, yep. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yep. Brian Dawkins. I said the same thing. Where's Brian Dawkins at? That was one I brought up. But still, he's amazing. Ray: Yeah, Brian Dawkins was that dude. JonBE aka DJ Chill: It I don't know if he's top fifteen all time, but if I could take anybody off this list, I would take off I would probably take off Anthony Munez. I would take off Emma Smith for sure. Those are really the two and you could probably bring Aaron Donald down. Ray: Nah, bruh. Nah. Hell nah. Nah, man. Yes. In my opinion, Aaron Donald is easy in the top 10 best players ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Yes. Cause they know what they're talking about on that part. Yeah. Yeah. He a defensive tackle, bruh. JonBE aka DJ Chill: You might be able to bring Aaron Donald down of all time? Ever. Ever. Top ten. Ever. They got ⁓ at they got ⁓ at seven. No, they got it. My bad. They him at eight. They got him behind the linemen. They said Rice, T.O. and Moss. Rice, T.O. and Moss got blew out against the 49ers. Ray: You said rice, T O and Moss? What do you mean? JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yep. Got blew out against the 49ers, saying that basically them three together to expand on that, Prince. Let me what you mean. My main man B said Emmett Smith gotta go. I I agree with that. Emmett gotta go, and you can take that lineman up out of there. Aaron Donald, I yeah, I could see it. I definitely could see it. He was amazing. He was amazing. Especially coming from a defensive tackle position. I give him that all day. Ray: Yeah, I miss yeah. Anybody who the best ever at they position, they gotta be on the list to me. Ain't no defensive tackle better than Aaron Donald. And that's a position that ain't even supposed to get sacks like that. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Okay. So if we was g so we're gonna have to do that. We're gonna have to go one for one best player at that position ever. So we're gonna have to we're gonna have to go we're gonna we're gonna have to make up our own list. My main fan said, yeah, at his position. He said at his position, yeah, not all time. Wow. So who wow. That's that's that's that's one of those unpopular opinions. I ain't mad at I like it though. I I like the you know I mean the parody of it all. But ⁓ Ray: At each position. Yeah. Mm-hmm. All the time for me. JonBE aka DJ Chill: We're gonna get ready to wrap it up because this conversation going on. I love me some football. We're gonna talk more about this next week because this is something interesting, and I'm glad everybody is able to chime in. Before we get out of here, we gotta make sure everybody do their homework. I say there always say there's a test at the end. But if you didn't study, don't worry. I got the cheat code, I got the answers. You know what you gotta do? You gotta like, subscribe, enjoy, and share. What do you like, subscribing, enjoying, and sharing? 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JonBE aka DJ Chill: Most definitely. And you gotta like, subscribe, and enjoy. It's the Hyper Real Podcast. You gotta tell a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend to pull up, show up, show out. The chat is open for anybody that wanna talk. My main man Brian said Vince Wilfork was better than Aaron Donald. Ray: ⁓ my god. No he was not, bruh. On the from the pages? No he was not, bruh. No, he was not, bruh. He could have said Sap. Warren Sap was closer than because he was fast like Aaron Donald. Vince Wolf work ain't fast like them two. Them two was big boy, but they was quick. JonBE aka DJ Chill: if I could say that 'cause Aaron Donald made a different impact to the defensive t yeah, Warren Sapp was different. Yeah. Warren Sapp was the or he was the original Aaron Donald. But he played a great defensive tackle. He played the original defensive tackle position, just clogging up the hole, getting two guards. He he did what a defensive tackle was supposed to do. But Aaron Donald's presence, getting through that Ray: Yeah, yeah. Three, four. Yeah, he was getting sacks. Like, come on, bro. You ain't supposed to be stopping to run. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Right. Good question. I'm trying to get out of here, but they keep hitting me with some heat. ⁓ he said he said, was Ray Lewis above Aaron Donald? No, he was not. Ray Lewis was at eleven. Aaron Donald was at eight. Ray: Yeah, man, you came with the football and like I mean, that's arguable. Ray Lewis is in my top ten too. Both of them make my top ten. JonBE aka DJ Chill: So was Ray Lewis the number one linebacker? Ray: Middle Lineberg, yeah, for sure. Yep, for sure. Yep. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Ever. Ever. I mean, man, Prince said cap on what? Speak on it. What will be what was Cap? ⁓ that Vince Warfolk was better than Aaron Donald? I agree if that's what you're saying. That's definitely Cap. I can't even I I I hey. B number love for you, bruh. But Aaron Donald is a beast of a different this man practicing with knives. Aaron Donald practiced with knives coming at him. ⁓ Absolutely not. But Ray: Yeah. This world fork was a dog, but come on, dog. They wouldn't have won that Super Bowl without him, man. You you Tom Brady was gonna win the Super Bowl. The defense, they definitely was, but it wasn't just, I don't think Vince Wilford was the main reason for that. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I don't know, the defense carried Tom Brady a couple of times, man. No. But he was a big piece of it. All four hundred and fifty pounds of his big behind. He was a big boy. Ray: He was definitely a big piece. Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. Richard Seymour, but you gotta remember they had Teddy Brucey, he was like the leader of that defense. You know? Rodney Harris, they had some dogs on that team. Ty Law, that was a super defense. But Aaron Donald, man, come on, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: Yeah. They had some killers on that team. Rodney Harris, they have some kidney here. Yes. The list goes on. Eric Dono, the defensive tackle, was a beast of beast, man. He'll 101. And he's back, about to do it again with Miles Garrett, unfortunately. It's going to be interesting. All right, let's wrap it up because we're going to be on here all day talking about this. So next week, we're going to talk more about this list. I want the chat to pull up. I want y'all to hit me up on is the hyper podcast at gmail.com. Go ahead, put that mail in there so that way we can discuss it more things y'all want to talk about on the on the on as far as the next shows coming up. We'd love to hear from it. Ray: Yeah, I can't w I can't wait to see what he do, man. JonBE aka DJ Chill: I'm man of the people. I'm here for the people. So I'm always gonna be down for the people. So we're about to get out of here. Until the next time is the next time, I can always say either be good or be good at it. We appreciate y'all. One more, one more from the chat. My main man said, made it a conversation. That's all I wanted. Hot takes. My main man Prince said, hands down, Ray is better as far as list than AD. We're gonna get into that some of that next week. Make y'all hit up the chat. I mean, make sure y'all hit up the ⁓ the the email so that way we can see what y'all want to talk about. It's the Hyperlow Podcast at gmail.com. Until the next time is the next time, like I always say, be good or be good at it. All right? Appreciate y'all. Peace. Ray: Praise.