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- 0:23SPEAKER_00: This is the coach.
- 0:29SPEAKER_04: Oh, hello.
- 0:30SPEAKER_04: How are you?
- 0:31SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: How are you?
- 0:33SPEAKER_04: Good, good.
- 0:34SPEAKER_04: I don't know why I always get a chuckle when we first start.
- 0:37SPEAKER_04: I think it's because we talk for a few minutes beforehand and it just feels so cheesy to be like, oh, hi, how are you?
- 0:44SPEAKER_04: Oh, what?
- 0:46SPEAKER_04: What a surprise to see you here.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: Suddenly just FaceTimed you out of nowhere.
- 0:52SPEAKER_04: It's like magic.
- 0:53SPEAKER_04: And suddenly it started recording all by itself.
- 0:56SPEAKER_04: That's like it reminds me of um, I always I always think about this with um videos, particularly when people like do making crying videos, like you know, like those big emotional videos.
- 1:07SPEAKER_04: And you know, especially if you create content, you know the steps involved in making a video.
- 1:15SPEAKER_04: It's not like it just you think about it and it magically starts, not that anybody thinks that, but it, you know, but you watch these videos and sometimes you're like, oh, that poor thing, why are they crying?
- 1:25SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh, that's so sad.
- 1:26SPEAKER_04: But then when you pause and you're like, hang on, they had to set up the camera.
- 1:30SPEAKER_04: They had to, you know, hit record, then they had to watch it back after and maybe do some editing, do some cropping, add some music, do all of the things to hit all of the you know, emotion pinpoints.
- 1:43SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 1:43SPEAKER_04: Uh and you know, when you start looking at it like that, you're like, mm, it's kind of hard to like get invested.
- 1:50SPEAKER_04: So yeah, that's where I'm at.
- 1:51SPEAKER_04: I think most of us are kind of at that mindset, right?
- 1:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there was a lot of that in the wake of Lindsay Clancy.
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: Uh tons of it.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: And there was a lot of criticism exact saying exactly what you just said, which was, you know, this outlandish, like, you know, women screaming and freaking out and having all these meltdowns and everything else.
- 2:13SPEAKER_01: And it's like, so you just happen to be sitting in your car with your phone on your dash or mounted to your steering wheel when you heard the news and and you just you know lost your mind and then went through all of the editing, like you said, and and then just posted it as if people are not gonna realize the process you just went through.
- 2:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
- 2:38SPEAKER_01: It's ridiculous.
- 2:40SPEAKER_04: I love the uh I love the the parody videos or mocking videos of of the those exact ones, the one with the ice throwing, throwing the ice in the bathroom.
- 2:48SPEAKER_04: I've seen that one done a few different times by people, and it makes me chuckle each time that like, yeah, that is exactly how ridiculous people look when they're doing these things.
- 2:59SPEAKER_04: But aye, yeah.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: Well for folks, for folks like you and me who create content, we know you know what it what goes into that.
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: Like that's not it, it's not an easy, short, simple process because every one of those videos is edited, every one of those is you know, they go through the process on whatever social media platform they're using, and it's not a quick and and you know, emotional process.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: It's something that you have to take some time and effort to put into.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: So it's all fake, it's all garbage, but they're doing it for clicks and likes, and that's just the way that it works.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: And yes, oh, by the way, folks, we're not gonna let it go unmentioned.
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: I did shave.
- 3:36SPEAKER_04: How did I not open with that?
- 3:38SPEAKER_04: Because I was already used to it.
- 3:39SPEAKER_04: It took me two seconds, I'm already used to it.
- 3:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah, how, but still, for everybody else watching, they're probably like, Did she get a new co-host?
- 3:46SPEAKER_04: What happened?
- 3:47SPEAKER_04: No, it's still clay.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: It is my once-a-year let the skin breathe, you know, kind of thing, and start fresh.
- 3:55SPEAKER_01: And within three weeks, folks, it'll be all back to the way that it was.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: And yes, I do.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: You're not the first person.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: Elsa told me before we started how much younger I look without it.
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh, and you're not the first person to say that.
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: Yes, I know, but I but I do like the beard.
- 4:11SPEAKER_04: I said my exact words, guys, was what are you, 12?
- 4:14SPEAKER_01: Yes, that is exactly what you're doing.
- 4:16SPEAKER_04: But those are my words, right?
- 4:18SPEAKER_04: My words, my tone, everything, the whole works.
- 4:22SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
- 4:23SPEAKER_04: All right, so down to business here.
- 4:26SPEAKER_04: I I would just keep chit-chatting this whole time.
- 4:28SPEAKER_04: And the end of the show, people be like, Did they actually talk about anything?
- 4:32SPEAKER_04: Like anything?
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: We would fall into topics just by accident.
- 4:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah, how could you not, right?
- 4:38SPEAKER_04: Because there's just so much going on all the time.
- 4:41SPEAKER_04: I do, I'm and I'm not gonna say what it is right now, but I did notice of the topic.
- 4:47SPEAKER_04: So as you guys know, I think you know, Clay brings me the topics and for us to discuss.
- 4:51SPEAKER_04: And then I'm like a good girl and I do my research and and get ready for it.
- 4:56SPEAKER_04: And I literally just realized there is one steadfast topic that is not in this group.
- 5:03SPEAKER_04: And if you guys guess what it is, I was gonna say don't say anything, but nah, throw it in the comments.
- 5:08SPEAKER_04: If you know what it is, go ahead, throw it right in.
- 5:10SPEAKER_04: See if you know which topic is not gonna be on here today.
- 5:14SPEAKER_04: Um, you better do it quick, because we're gonna play the topics right now, right?
- 5:19SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
- 5:20SPEAKER_03: AI is getting smarter, faster, and cheaper.
- 5:23SPEAKER_03: And Americans are starting to ask a pretty reasonable question.
- 5:26SPEAKER_03: What happens to us?
- 5:28SPEAKER_03: Meanwhile, the penny is officially dead after more than two centuries, proving Washington can stop wasting money, apparently one cent at a time.
- 5:36SPEAKER_03: Matt Lamore said free Palestine on stage and suddenly found himself dropped from the rest of Ed Sheeran's US tour.
- 5:43SPEAKER_03: Free speech, private property, or consequences coming home to roost.
- 5:47SPEAKER_03: Then AOC declared America is facing widespread modern-day lynchings.
- 5:51SPEAKER_03: There's just one rather important problem.
- 5:54SPEAKER_03: The evidence so far doesn't establish that claim.
- 5:56SPEAKER_03: And the Democrats may already have a California-sized problem brewing for 2028.
- 6:01SPEAKER_03: Gavin Newsome says if Kamala runs, he won't.
- 6:04SPEAKER_03: Speaking of Washington, Mitch McConnell is back in the Senate after three months away, reopening a conversation neither party particularly enjoys having.
- 6:12SPEAKER_03: How old is too old to hold power?
- 6:15SPEAKER_03: And finally, former CIA Director John Brennan has been subpoenaed to appear before a federal grand jury as questions surrounding the Russia investigation come roaring back.
- 6:24SPEAKER_03: Accountability, political retaliation, or something Americans should have gotten answers about years ago.
- 6:30SPEAKER_03: Seven stories, plenty to disagree about, and absolutely no requirement that we surrender our common sense.
- 6:36SPEAKER_03: Let's talk about it.
- 6:38SPEAKER_04: So the irony has not missed on me at all, and probably not you either, that um I created that intro with AI.
- 6:49SPEAKER_04: And I chuckled as I was doing it because I knew I would rat myself out.
- 6:53SPEAKER_04: Not that I'm I'm pretty sure y'all know that wasn't my voice.
- 6:56SPEAKER_04: So and I didn't I'm not hiring anybody to do voiceovers for me.
- 7:01SPEAKER_04: So there you go.
- 7:05SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
- 7:06SPEAKER_04: So yeah, um, AI fears are growing.
- 7:10SPEAKER_04: Um, and here's the question, of course, when the people start building now.
- 7:14SPEAKER_04: Let me start that over.
- 7:16SPEAKER_04: When the people building the thing start sounding nervous, should the rest of us listen?
- 7:23SPEAKER_04: And uh yeah, it is pretty interesting.
- 7:25SPEAKER_04: And I I'm not gonna lie, Clay, at first I was like, when they all started coming out, who is it?
- 7:29SPEAKER_04: Uh Sam Altman, uh the guy from Anthropic, and of course, uh Elon Musk, right?
- 7:36SPEAKER_04: And probably more.
- 7:37SPEAKER_04: I'm sure there were others.
- 7:38SPEAKER_04: Those are just the first names I think of.
- 7:40SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, they're they're all sounding the alarm, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we've got to pump the brakes here.
- 7:46SPEAKER_04: This is uh this has the potential to get super crazy.
- 7:50SPEAKER_04: And then tell me if you saw this.
- 7:51SPEAKER_04: There is a guy who a former, I think he's a former employee of maybe anthropic or maybe open AI, I'm not sure which one, uh, who's came out and he's kind of making the the circuit, I think, um, and saying like basically AI is gonna like potentially kill us in like you know, X amount of time.
- 8:11SPEAKER_04: Like they're gonna kill us off like Terminator.
- 8:13SPEAKER_04: You heard that?
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that it was a former anthropic um uh employee, and he has said he he's the only one that I've seen that has put a number on it.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Um, he has said 10% chance in the next 10 years, uh, that it escalates that quickly that AI, you know, takes control.
- 8:33SPEAKER_01: Very Terminator, very Skynet, you know, kind of doomsday story.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: Uh, but he's he has said a 10% chance in the next 10 years.
- 8:41SPEAKER_01: Um, his boss, the CEO at Anthropic, has said out loud that they, the industry, needs to slow down uh with their development because it is rapidly, they're they're rapidly losing control of this.
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: Um Sam Altman, who you mentioned already from Chat GPT, says that you know, AI companies need to coordinate and and work safeguards between themselves.
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: Um, there needs to be essentially an industry-wide set of safeguards built.
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: Um and then, of course, you know, Elon has been saying this for a while.
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, both of those companies, uh, ChatGPT and Anthropic have had rogue actions by their own systems.
- 9:29SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: Under controlled, semi-controlled environments where they have allowed, you know, some of these AI entities to grow at a uncontrolled rate with their own ability to essentially end the experiment.
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: And in some cases, they have had that catastrophic action by the AI entity where it does something, it goes rogue, it goes out of the protocols, and it does take over, attack, it does destroy other AI models, it does do all of the things that we're afraid that it will do that have the potential to lead to essentially AI becoming self-aware, overpowering human capability, and and then you have Terminator movies.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's that's exactly what we're talking about.
- 10:15SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:15SPEAKER_04: And I did see that Elon Musk also um went, you know, on the record, uh, it was some like panel he was on.
- 10:23SPEAKER_04: And uh, you know, he said essentially the same thing as San Altman Altman said that, you know, we should he went so far as to say that they should be getting together and and basically testing each other's models against each other, you know, to to see where the weak parts are and you know, work together here, which, you know, great idea, also a little scary idea.
- 10:44SPEAKER_04: You know, you have like the the smartest people.
- 10:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:48SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 10:49SPEAKER_04: You know, there's there's a creep factor all around here.
- 10:51SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 10:52SPEAKER_01: There's but so they're using it internally.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: They have they've all admitted that they use their AI to test their own security networks, yeah, because they are they all have evidence that they've been probed by mostly Chinese hackers trying to get into their AI systems.
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: So they're afraid, you know, think of it as a as a legitimate virus, folks, like another version of COVID, where, you know, they're afraid of it getting out of the lab.
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: They don't want the technology to escape.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: So they're using their own AI models to protect themselves from that happening.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: What Elon's point is, is that, and I think Sam Altman, I think, is on the same same page with this, is we we should be helping each other out with this.
- 11:37SPEAKER_01: And the best way to do it is for your technology to to you know take a shot at mine and mine to take a shot at his.
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: And we all protect each other, but we protect the industry and the safety of humanity by doing that.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: But you're right, that does open things up a little bit.
- 11:53SPEAKER_01: It is a little frightening, but but I think we we all have to understand.
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: I think, you know, you're a you're a you've been an AI user.
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: I uh I still don't have Chat GPT on my phone.
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: Stay away from it.
- 12:07SPEAKER_01: Um But the govern our government, right, and most governments move way, way too slow to regulate this stuff.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like our legal processes, we we can't get laws passed that have been on the books for you know for years, essentially.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: Things that we've been trying to get through, you know, our government still works.
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: Who was it?
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: Nancy Mace said, you know, our government still works on fast fax machines and floppy disks.
- 12:35SPEAKER_01: And she's not wrong.
- 12:37SPEAKER_01: Like, I know that there are when when I deal with like, you know, the defense, finance, and and accounting, right, for my retirement pay, they actually have documents that I have to fax to them.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: Have to.
- 12:51SPEAKER_01: They can't accept that I either have to mail it to them or fax to them, can't email it, not even a scanned copy, none of it.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: So she's right in that our government and probably almost every other government, if not every government in the world, moves too slowly to protect us, its citizenry from AI, the fears of AI.
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: And and Elon's point is, and again, like you said, Sam Altman and and I think the collective smart ones are all saying the same thing.
- 13:20SPEAKER_01: Like, we we have to take control of this and we have to protect humanity, and we have to stay ahead of our own, you know, the the dangers of the industry that we're working in, and the people that wanted to escape, which there's always nefarious actors, always always, always and that's always the case with everything, right?
- 13:39SPEAKER_04: People ruin everything, basically, is is my I think that's like my long-standing motto that people ruin everything, because that is the case, be you know, because I think part of the uh biggest issue here is not necessarily that the AI is going to take over the world, you know, Terminator style, that they're gonna come to life and be of their own accord and everything.
- 14:07SPEAKER_04: It's the you it's the people behind the technology, the people using it.
- 14:13SPEAKER_04: And that's always been the case.
- 14:15SPEAKER_04: Every tool that's been made for good, people have found a way to use it for bad, you know.
- 14:21SPEAKER_04: Guns used for protection.
- 14:23SPEAKER_04: Well, then didn't take more than a hot minute before somebody used it for, you know, for murder, for uh evil, for bad.
- 14:31SPEAKER_04: So this is another case of that, and of course, the expansion of you know what that can affect is uh basically everything, all of our functions, everything we do now.
- 14:41SPEAKER_04: And I laugh a little bit when somebody says, I'm not, I don't want anything to do with AI, I'm not having anything to do with it.
- 14:46SPEAKER_04: Well, if you have a smartphone, you're using AI.
- 14:49SPEAKER_04: Like you're already using.
- 14:50SPEAKER_04: If you go on social media, you are using AI.
- 14:54SPEAKER_04: If you're answering your emails, you are or reading your emails, you're using AI.
- 14:59SPEAKER_04: You are using AI without even knowing that you're using AI.
- 15:03SPEAKER_04: So y'all gotta realize that that cat is so far out of the bag.
- 15:08SPEAKER_04: And unless it is completely eradicated, you will not get away from it.
- 15:13SPEAKER_04: It will always exist as part of our our world.
- 15:17SPEAKER_04: So, exactly what you're saying, you know, you yeah, we have to put some brakes on um how this is being developed, how quickly it's being developed, what it's being used for.
- 15:28SPEAKER_04: And I don't know how to do that because, you know, do we want government control?
- 15:33SPEAKER_04: We want the government, no.
- 15:34SPEAKER_04: I mean, we we traditionally try and stay away from that.
- 15:38SPEAKER_04: Do we want to trust multi-billionaires with our, you know, everything?
- 15:44SPEAKER_04: Not so much.
- 15:45SPEAKER_04: And uh, so I I definitely not saying that I have the answer here.
- 15:49SPEAKER_04: I don't even remotely have it.
- 15:51SPEAKER_04: And I know somebody will probably, you know, hop in more than once, someone will hop in and say, well, stop using it, you know, stop, stop feeding it, stop uh lining their pockets.
- 16:01SPEAKER_04: And it's like, oh boy, it's so much more complex than just un uh uninstall chat GPT from your phone.
- 16:08SPEAKER_04: It's so much more complex than that.
- 16:11SPEAKER_04: So I don't know.
- 16:13SPEAKER_04: And I I gotta say, I found it very funny and interesting, not funny, ironic, not ha ha ha.
- 16:18SPEAKER_04: At the same time that Elon Musk was basically saying, Yeah, I agree, we gotta pump the brakes here.
- 16:23SPEAKER_04: This is very, very dangerous.
- 16:25SPEAKER_04: In August, he also came out with Grokbot.
- 16:29SPEAKER_04: Have you seen that?
- 16:30SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Grok, obviously, but not so he's got they they have a secondary thing called Grokbot, and it's basically it's a turbo um AI assistant in your phone, and you are literally the whole point of it is that you are literally giving it access to your technology universe, your email, your scheduling, your like everything you can think of.
- 16:58SPEAKER_04: And it will work in the background.
- 17:01SPEAKER_04: You you go to bed, you call it a day, you are done.
- 17:04SPEAKER_04: Your bot is still working in the background, either answering and I mean, so much more complex than this, but this is just our basic, you know, understanding basically.
- 17:14SPEAKER_04: Um, it's answering emails for you, it's um sending things, it's dealing with your finances for you, it's probably watching the stock market for you, and you know, it's handling your money and your communications, and you are literally giving it permission to do all of these things.
- 17:32SPEAKER_04: When I saw that, I was like, I that's not for me.
- 17:36SPEAKER_04: That's even, you know, and I love doing my AI stuff, but that's too far for me.
- 17:41SPEAKER_04: That was one thing.
- 17:42SPEAKER_04: I was like, nope, can't do it.
- 17:44SPEAKER_04: Can't can't do it.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, the problem, you know, there's been estimates where they've said um if you if you point AI in the right direction, it could cure cancer in 10 years, right?
- 17:58SPEAKER_01: Um it could solve, you know, it could um eradicate most diseases within you know a half a dozen years, like those kinds of things.
- 18:07SPEAKER_01: But you know, the problem is to do that, AI has got to learn massive levels of efficiency of healing, right?
- 18:17SPEAKER_01: How the human body works, healing, all of those things.
- 18:20SPEAKER_01: And and that information inevitably can be used for bad, right?
- 18:24SPEAKER_01: The most efficient healing machine in the world is also the most efficient killing machine in the world, right?
- 18:31SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's that information can be, you know, it's like you hit a fork in the road, and if it goes one way, then everything's fine, but if it goes the other way, then everybody's screwed.
- 18:41SPEAKER_01: Um, and and that is that is the fear.
- 18:44SPEAKER_01: That is the Skynet fear, it's the you know, Terminator movie fear.
- 18:48SPEAKER_01: Um and listen, folks, we we really need to appreciate how accurate that assumption was way back when those movies were made.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: You are a kid, man.
- 18:58SPEAKER_01: Um that that entire storyline is is very, very accurate in what we are going through, and we're on the precipice of that, you know, significant event for all humankind.
- 19:11SPEAKER_01: Um, because AI is going to reach that point where it realizes who and what it is uh in in comparison to human beings.
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: It's just a matter of how well how it reacts and how it's controlled.
- 19:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 19:25SPEAKER_01: Um you know, there are certain things that AI will will never be able to do with the same level of uh you know creativity and beauty as human beings.
- 19:36SPEAKER_01: Uh thank God.
- 19:37SPEAKER_01: But those are those are not of a lot of value at that point.
- 19:41SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, we this is this is something that affects literally everyone.
- 19:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: You know, and you can say, oh, I I live off the grid.
- 19:53SPEAKER_01: I, you know, I I have my water and my food and my whatever, my guns, and I, you know, I don't it doesn't matter.
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter because it affects the entire rest of the world.
- 20:04SPEAKER_01: And so um these these things affect everyone.
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: And what gets me, truthfully, is the fact that you do have these heads of you know, these massive AI companies that are all saying, we we have reached the point where we need to control this, otherwise it's gonna control us.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, those again, folks, those are the names, those are the organizations, you know, um Anthropic, ChatGPT, Sam Altman, Elon Musk, like those are the folks that you've got to keep your eyes on in the news and watch what they're doing and watch what they're talking about.
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: But we cannot rely that we are gonna have to basically forward some faith, trust, and confidence in those folks because our government can't, it's not capable of regulating, controlling uh this type of technology at the rate that it's expanding.
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna have to trust those folks.
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: We really, really are.
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: As scary as that is, that's where we're at.
- 20:59SPEAKER_04: We've put ourselves between a rock and a hard place here with that.
- 21:02SPEAKER_04: And then uh, you know, mentioning the government uh reminds me, of course, the that that President Trump just put out a statement regarding all of this as well.
- 21:11SPEAKER_04: And, you know, the it was his response was basically the equivalent of going, don't worry about it.
- 21:18SPEAKER_04: That was like the that that sums up his response, like, don't worry about it.
- 21:22SPEAKER_04: You got a president who who is, you know, very, very highly intelligent and can handle it.
- 21:26SPEAKER_04: I was like, oh please, oh boy.
- 21:33SPEAKER_04: I still love him.
- 21:34SPEAKER_04: I do.
- 21:35SPEAKER_04: But that was the moment where I was like, yeah.
- 21:38SPEAKER_01: When you're when you're 80, you can take that position.
- 21:41unknown: Yeah.
- 21:43SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 21:43SPEAKER_01: Uh but you know, there's you know, there's a lot of folks a lot younger than him got a lot more life in front of them.
- 21:49SPEAKER_01: So um yeah, I don't you can't you can't brush this one off.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: It just doesn't work.
- 21:53SPEAKER_04: No.
- 21:53SPEAKER_04: Nope, you really can't.
- 21:55SPEAKER_04: Here's some interesting stats.
- 21:56SPEAKER_04: You mentioned um uh just how you know one of the ways that it affects People.
- 22:00SPEAKER_04: So Pew found that 71%, 71% of American adults now believe that AI will result in fewer jobs over the next 20 years compared with 64% in 2024.
- 22:13SPEAKER_04: I mean, that was just a hot minute ago.
- 22:15SPEAKER_04: That's a big jump already.
- 22:16SPEAKER_04: And only five, here's the one I thought was even more interesting.
- 22:19SPEAKER_04: Only 5% think it will create more jobs, which I thought actually was very interesting.
- 22:25SPEAKER_04: Only 5%.
- 22:26SPEAKER_04: And of course, this is of the people asked, um, believe so and who knows how many people they actually asked.
- 22:32SPEAKER_04: Um, but only 5% think it will create more jobs.
- 22:36SPEAKER_04: And I actually found that very interesting because, well, let me correct that.
- 22:42SPEAKER_04: I believe that AI is obviously, I mean, we've already seen it happening, um, is going to replace people in a lot of job positions.
- 22:50SPEAKER_04: There are, of course, certain um jobs, careers that, you know, AI can't touch, law enforcement, you know, things like the things where you need actual people, human beings to do actual certain things.
- 23:02SPEAKER_04: Um, but the flip side of that is that it also has afforded us regular folk the opportunity to create um avenues or or yeah, avenues and lanes of income, you know, creating businesses, opening opportunities that would have never ever been accessible to the average person for lack of resources, lack of money, lack of education.
- 23:30SPEAKER_04: And now, you know, one of the things that I love, and I'm not trying to sit here and and you know, be the cheerleader for AI.
- 23:37SPEAKER_04: I'm just pointing out truths.
- 23:39SPEAKER_04: Um, you can have your AI, whatever, whoever you use, build an entire college curriculum course for you for free, and and have it tailored to exactly what you need.
- 23:52SPEAKER_04: Like I'll use myself for example.
- 23:53SPEAKER_04: I uh I was thinking the other day, my husband and I had the conversation just about business stuff.
- 23:58SPEAKER_04: And I said, Yeah, I kind of kind of it's a bummer that I never went to school for business because that end of what I do is the part where it's just a big gray area for me.
- 24:07SPEAKER_04: I'm not a business person, I'm a creative person.
- 24:11SPEAKER_04: Um and so the business side of it like just makes me, you know, want to take a nap, to be honest with you.
- 24:18SPEAKER_04: But then I was like, well, wait a minute, maybe I can have maybe I can learn this part of it uh in a way that actually makes sense to me and resonates with me.
- 24:28SPEAKER_04: So that was the chat that I had with chat.
- 24:31SPEAKER_04: I said, Hey, can you build me a course that's tailored around what I do?
- 24:35SPEAKER_04: So basically give me the information that I need to know, not what a guy or a woman running a hotel needs to know for business, you know, or a CEO of a company.
- 24:45SPEAKER_04: Make it very tailored and then boom, there's my course right there, tailored to exactly my learning style, my niche, everything.
- 24:55SPEAKER_04: So um, I'm being very long-winded, but that's you know, one of the great things, the flip side of the negative.
- 25:02SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 25:03SPEAKER_04: Am I just talking, talking it up too much, maybe?
- 25:06SPEAKER_01: No, I I don't think you are, but like the so it's a perfect example of the flip side, which means does that devalue the college degree, right?
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: Does that devalue an MBA?
- 25:19SPEAKER_01: Or does that increase the value?
- 25:21SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, well, you actually went to school for that.
- 25:23SPEAKER_01: We have proof, quote unquote, that you, you know, finished the course curriculum, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you have the piece of paper that says so.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: Or does it devalue that?
- 25:33SPEAKER_01: And it's like, well, you know, you if you did chat GPT business school for free, uh, you know, then good for you.
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: And now you start to see business schools go away.
- 25:45SPEAKER_01: You start to see less interest in people going to school, and therefore those start to shrink, right?
- 25:51SPEAKER_01: Does higher learning, higher education start to go away because of AI?
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think because, like you said, even a professor, uh, you know, someone who is paid to be a college professor, they are using AI for a lot of things already in their own curriculum.
- 26:10SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, you know, how they were embedding questions in, right?
- 26:17SPEAKER_01: I think we talked about this on the show, right?
- 26:19SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 26:19SPEAKER_01: Um, and so they're using AI to ensure that people are learning.
- 26:24SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of back and forth on how this goes.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I mean it's it is a tool and it just depends on how you apply it.
- 26:32SPEAKER_01: But as with everything else, and as we already said before, people will use it in the wrong way.
- 26:37SPEAKER_01: They will apply it, not the way that it's meant to be applied, and and you've got nefarious actors, and that's just kind of the kind of the outcome of, like you said, people ruin everything.
- 26:49SPEAKER_04: Yeah, people ruin everything.
- 26:51SPEAKER_04: Uh, that should be a t-shirt, right?
- 26:53SPEAKER_04: Maybe I'll make a t-shirt with that.
- 26:55SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 26:56SPEAKER_04: People ruin everything.
- 26:57SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, it's, you know, I I just I don't think this is not a black and white issue.
- 27:03SPEAKER_04: And and I actually love black and white issues.
- 27:05SPEAKER_04: I love having a just a solid position on something, and that's it.
- 27:08SPEAKER_04: Um, but this just isn't one of those things, I don't think.
- 27:12SPEAKER_04: And and you know, people can you can choose certainly to say, I'm I am not going to consciously uh work with or utilize AI.
- 27:21SPEAKER_04: Uh, I'm not gonna do it.
- 27:22SPEAKER_04: And I say, good for you.
- 27:24SPEAKER_04: Uh, I respect your your your stance and your conviction on that.
- 27:29SPEAKER_04: I think that's great.
- 27:30SPEAKER_04: You know, but I also say, well, you're you it you have to be okay with kind of being left behind, so to speak, you know, um, because the world is gonna keep advancing.
- 27:40SPEAKER_04: All of this technology is gonna keep happening.
- 27:42SPEAKER_04: And if you, you know, here's a crazy thing.
- 27:45SPEAKER_04: If you deny your children access to that as part of their learning experience, a controlled learning experience, of course, um, you're, you know, denying them opportunities for their future as far as keeping up with uh it's just, I mean, we could go in circles and circles and circles about this and and not be wrong at all on like both sides of that issue, which I think is one of the most fascinating things about the topic that you can argue both sides of this and not be wrong.
- 28:14SPEAKER_04: It's crazy, right?
- 28:16SPEAKER_01: Well, and so I mean it bleeds into our next topic.
- 28:19SPEAKER_01: Like this is progress, you know, whether we like it or not.
- 28:22SPEAKER_01: Um, our economy has outgrown the penny.
- 28:26SPEAKER_01: Um it has.
- 28:28SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, right?
- 28:31SPEAKER_01: Weirdly enough, um, you know, our economy has outgrown the penny, and it will, you know, the penny is dead, folks.
- 28:39SPEAKER_01: Uh Congress, Congress decided they stopped minting them last year, 2025.
- 28:45SPEAKER_01: Um, somebody did the cost analysis, and um, I think you had it up in the beginning.
- 28:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's in the graphic.
- 28:50SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 28:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like three dollars.
- 28:54SPEAKER_01: I think I that that may be.
- 28:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, three.
- 28:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is that three dollars and sixty-nine cents to man manufacture one, or is it yeah, I guess that I think it's like three point six nine cents to mint a penny, right?
- 29:08SPEAKER_01: That makes sense in materials and process, it's like three point six nine cents, right?
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it it costs almost four cents to produce a penny.
- 29:17SPEAKER_01: And and even the US government, as dumb as it is most times, has figured out that that is that is backwards and it is losing us money.
- 29:25SPEAKER_01: So just by shutting down penny production, we've saved$56 million this year uh by the Treasury Department and the U.S.
- 29:35SPEAKER_01: Mint.
- 29:35SPEAKER_01: So um, but what's interesting is that now Congress is moving forward with processes for all of our currency uh or all of our trade, all of our commerce to be rounded to a nickel.
- 29:50SPEAKER_01: Um so they are not gonna, you know, essentially not allow the$3.97, whatever it's gonna be$4 or it's gonna be$3.95.
- 30:01SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, your people who still deal in cash, the cash register, which if you go now and you're looking for pennies in a lot of places, you're not gonna get them because they don't have them.
- 30:10SPEAKER_01: They're all right, businesses are already rounding.
- 30:13SPEAKER_01: Um, so they are moving forward with that.
- 30:16SPEAKER_01: Um, they are not gonna do that with wages, though, is my understanding.
- 30:21SPEAKER_01: So if you if you work for a company and you do, you know, like maybe a digital clock in, clock out, you know, kind of thing, which takes you down to the minute uh of when you're at work.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: And if you get into penny division of your hours of labor, it is not gonna affect that.
- 30:39SPEAKER_01: Um my guess is it's also not gonna affect taxes.
- 30:42SPEAKER_01: Um, right.
- 30:44SPEAKER_01: Right, you're into percentages on that.
- 30:47SPEAKER_01: Um, but here's the you know, here's the million dollar question.
- 30:51SPEAKER_01: You know how gas is still like 0.9 cents at the end of every gallon?
- 30:57SPEAKER_01: Like is that now going away?
- 31:00SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 31:00SPEAKER_01: Like, cause it does still say, you know, 379.9 or whatever it is.
- 31:05SPEAKER_04: And what's the ramifications of that?
- 31:06SPEAKER_04: Like, how does that affect us, really?
- 31:09SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 31:10SPEAKER_01: That's when it was like, you know, even before when you and I were barely able to walk and talk, and it was like, you know, in the 20 cents a gallon kind of range, when you say it's you know 21.9, that's a big deal.
- 31:25SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 31:25SPEAKER_01: When it's 379.9, that's not a big deal.
- 31:28SPEAKER_01: So does that go away?
- 31:30SPEAKER_01: But um, yes, folks, the Abraham Lincoln penny uh is is now dead.
- 31:38SPEAKER_01: Never hang on to him.
- 31:40SPEAKER_04: If you're a coin collector, go read your grandmother's uh penny jar.
- 31:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah, one of those big don't people I'm sure I've had one in my lifetime, like those big um like the water jug things.
- 31:52SPEAKER_02: Got one.
- 31:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 31:54SPEAKER_04: Like I feel like almost everybody does, right?
- 31:56SPEAKER_04: Or has had one at some point filled with all the change and you like you dump it all out and you shove aside the shove aside the the pennies so you can get to the quarters and the and the good stuff that's in there to bring to wherever.
- 32:09SPEAKER_04: But yeah, yeah, it's uh it's pretty crazy.
- 32:12SPEAKER_04: Oh, you know what?
- 32:13SPEAKER_04: We actually have we have the video.
- 32:16SPEAKER_04: Somebody had the the foresight to take a video of the last penny being minted.
- 32:21SPEAKER_04: You ready?
- 32:22SPEAKER_04: I have it.
- 32:23SPEAKER_04: Supposedly, at least.
- 32:24SPEAKER_04: There it is.
- 32:26SPEAKER_04: There it is.
- 32:29SPEAKER_04: You think it's getting framed somewhere, maybe?
- 32:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is literally invaluable.
- 32:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah, crazy, right?
- 32:39SPEAKER_04: Yep, that was it.
- 32:40SPEAKER_04: It's a goner.
- 32:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so although it's I mean, I remember, you know, my my dad, my grandfather, one of my grandfathers were, you know, had the blue books.
- 32:49SPEAKER_01: Do you remember those?
- 32:50SPEAKER_01: Like the blue coin collector books.
- 32:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 32:52SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and it and to see the evolution of the, you know, the wheat pennies back in the day, which I think was like pre-1959 or something like that, or even the steel pennies from late World War II, right?
- 33:06SPEAKER_01: Because they didn't want they were using the copper for bullets and wiring and all kinds of other things.
- 33:12SPEAKER_01: And they made pennies out of steel, I think for one year or two years, 44, 45, maybe, or something like that.
- 33:17SPEAKER_01: Um, and but those blue books, you know, like everybody kind of quit.
- 33:22SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh well, you know, it goes up to this year.
- 33:25SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna collect these are all modern pennies.
- 33:28SPEAKER_01: Um, but those, you know, they're gonna be of value here in a little bit.
- 33:32SPEAKER_01: So hang on to those.
- 33:34SPEAKER_04: That's right.
- 33:35SPEAKER_04: Here for you little history buffs out there.
- 33:37SPEAKER_04: The first penny or the penny dates back to 1792, and Abraham Lincoln first appeared on it in 1909.
- 33:46SPEAKER_04: How about that?
- 33:47SPEAKER_04: That's crazy.
- 33:48SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so uh goodbye to the penny.
- 33:50SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 33:51SPEAKER_04: Do we I if I if I had a a drink, I I'd toast to the the penny, I guess.
- 33:56SPEAKER_04: I don't know, right?
- 33:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 33:57SPEAKER_04: Now now people just use them.
- 33:59SPEAKER_04: So I both of our kids are grown, but my grandkids just did this recently.
- 34:04SPEAKER_04: We went to um oh, it was Bass Pro Shop of all places, and they have one of those machines.
- 34:10SPEAKER_04: You know exactly what I'm talking about?
- 34:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the machine that you put the penny in and it flattens it and it makes it into whatever shape they or design.
- 34:17SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 34:18SPEAKER_04: So you can use them for that.
- 34:19SPEAKER_01: Tourist attractions around the world have that smash a penny.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: Yep, they're all over the place.
- 34:24SPEAKER_04: Yep, and everybody finds them like in their junk drawer, like decades later, and they're like, What the heck is this?
- 34:29SPEAKER_04: Oh, I remember.
- 34:31SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yep.
- 34:33SPEAKER_04: So, oh yeah.
- 34:34SPEAKER_04: All right, let's move on to oh, you ready for this one?
- 34:37SPEAKER_04: Let's talk about this knucklehead.
- 34:39SPEAKER_04: Uh Macklemore.
- 34:41SPEAKER_04: So, those of you who don't know who Macklemore is, he's um, I don't do we call him a musician.
- 34:46SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, he's a musician.
- 34:48SPEAKER_04: I don't know if he's a very good one, but he's a musician.
- 34:51SPEAKER_04: And um, he was opening for Ed Sheeran, or has been opening for Ed Sheeran, and has received a whole bunch of backlash because he is using the music stage as a political pulpit to um rail against Israel and um and I don't know, he's basically just shouting uh free Palestine.
- 35:17SPEAKER_01: Um I want to go a little deeper than that.
- 35:20SPEAKER_01: And so I did not know this, but he has been a devout anti, not just anti-Israel, but anti-Jew, very anti-Semitic for a number of years and has kind of played it off as an entertainer.
- 35:36SPEAKER_01: There's been within the last, I want to say it was pre-COVID, but he has done things like the you know, uh on stage, full full venue, black wig, ringlets, big, big honk and nose.
- 35:52SPEAKER_04: Stop really, yeah.
- 35:55SPEAKER_01: It's it's out there, and he's written some songs that kind of go along the anti-Semitic, you know, kind of thing.
- 36:02SPEAKER_01: Um, but the most recent one is, you know, he was like you said, he was doing the free Palestine, you know, and and and leading people in chants and whatnot.
- 36:11SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, Ed Sheeran's a pretty big name.
- 36:15SPEAKER_01: Big name.
- 36:16SPEAKER_01: He and and so he's not playing the 6,000 seat arena, right?
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: He's not playing the casinos, he's not playing.
- 36:25SPEAKER_01: Ed Sheeran is filling football stadiums, yeah.
- 36:29SPEAKER_01: Like 70,000, 80,000 people uh, you know, going to see Ed Sheeran play.
- 36:36SPEAKER_04: And uh he keeps his political beliefs to himself.
- 36:39SPEAKER_04: He does whatever he believes, he doesn't share it.
- 36:41SPEAKER_01: He is and and he, you know, is he's phenomenally talented.
- 36:48SPEAKER_01: He's actually a very funny guy, but he's super down to earth, he's very humble.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: Um, and you're right, he keeps his politics out of his shows, and you know, so MacLamore stands up and he does his thing, and you know, it kind of hit the news wire.
- 37:03SPEAKER_01: And then a pretty powerful guy up in your neck of the woods, uh Mr.
- 37:09SPEAKER_01: Robert Kraft, said, Hey, listen, uh, he's not welcome at my football stadium.
- 37:16SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, you got Ed Sheeran, who is, I hate to say a little bit between a rock and a hard place, right?
- 37:23SPEAKER_01: Um, was like, oh, okay.
- 37:26SPEAKER_01: Uh, and then, you know, the accusation is that Mr.
- 37:31SPEAKER_01: Kraft rallied some of the fellow NFL owners for some of the other upcoming Ed Sheeran concerts and got them all together to say the same thing, like, hey, not my house.
- 37:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 37:42SPEAKER_01: And so I think it was six or seven venues at the end of it before MacLamore got dropped, but six or seven very large venues said, Yeah, not here either.
- 37:53SPEAKER_01: Sorry, he's not welcome.
- 37:55SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, Ed Sheeran was like, Hey man, listen, you gotta go.
- 37:59SPEAKER_01: I I can't have you on one of every five or six shows that we do.
- 38:05SPEAKER_01: So you're out.
- 38:06SPEAKER_01: And so MacLeamore got booted off the tour.
- 38:09SPEAKER_04: Yep, he did.
- 38:10SPEAKER_04: Uh lots of mixed feelings on it, I I see from people.
- 38:13SPEAKER_04: And and, you know, I'm I'm of a couple of opinions here on this.
- 38:18SPEAKER_04: Uh one, I've never been one for the um the boycott thing, like telling other people what they should or shouldn't do.
- 38:27SPEAKER_04: Um, I I have no problem stating what I will or won't do.
- 38:31SPEAKER_04: I mean, as we all know, many times they've talked about my refusal to watch football, you know, the NFL specifically uh anymore.
- 38:39SPEAKER_04: And uh haven't for uh however many years now.
- 38:42SPEAKER_04: It's been quite a while.
- 38:44SPEAKER_04: And um, but you know, it it's to me, it's not for me to go and tell people what they should do with their time, because that's you know, pretty pompous, I think, to even presume it.
- 38:54SPEAKER_04: Um, so I don't love like the whole cancel Macklemore.
- 38:59SPEAKER_04: Uh I 100% don't agree with his his stance, his politics, his beliefs, anything, anything that he does I find vile, which simply means for me, I will, I won't participate.
- 39:10SPEAKER_04: I won't go to his shows, I won't buy his music, I won't even listen to his music.
- 39:14SPEAKER_04: Everybody do, you know, what you should do.
- 39:16SPEAKER_04: The next layer to that is um, listen, these are private organizations, right?
- 39:21SPEAKER_04: I mean, they they can do what they want.
- 39:23SPEAKER_04: And we went through this, uh, people, all of us on the right, um, we have gone through this many times with uh social media, which are privately owned organizations.
- 39:34SPEAKER_04: Um, I have been um blocked, I've been suppressed, all of the things, uh not nearly to the degree much bigger podcasters and and media personalities have been, um, but I've certainly experienced it.
- 39:48SPEAKER_04: And uh I did not like it.
- 39:49SPEAKER_04: It was not enjoyable, but I also understood that my hands are tied.
- 39:55SPEAKER_04: It's their platform, they can do what they want to do, even if it's wrong, or even if I think it's wrong.
- 40:00SPEAKER_04: Um, so this falls under that category.
- 40:02SPEAKER_04: Private businesses, I still feel this I felt that way then, I feel this way now.
- 40:06SPEAKER_04: Um, private businesses, private owners of businesses, they have the right to choose who is uh allowed to be in there on their property, you know, to that degree.
- 40:18SPEAKER_04: So um, yeah, and I I know there's a lot of people, like maybe on the right, I don't even know who who wear what anymore because all the lines are starting to get blurred, um, who have a problem with this or are cheering it, saying, yay, this is wonderful that they banned them.
- 40:34SPEAKER_04: I don't necessarily think that.
- 40:36SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't necessarily think, yay, I'm so um glad and cheering it on, um, but it is what it is as far as I'm concerned.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I, you know, Robert Kraft is a pretty conservative guy.
- 40:51SPEAKER_01: He is friends with President Trump.
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: I don't think President Trump had anything to do with this.
- 40:55SPEAKER_01: I think it's just Mr.
- 40:56SPEAKER_01: Kraft saw this and he was like, I I don't I have no interest in this in my football stadium.
- 41:02SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, he did put himself uh at at financial risk with this.
- 41:08SPEAKER_01: One, Ed Sheeran could have said, Okay, um, you're you're can't, I'm not canceling this, you're canceling this, which listen, in business folks and and all of those things, I can promise you that in the contracts written for this, if Kraft canceled this, you know, this event, he would have been the one losing money, not Ed Sheeran.
- 41:28SPEAKER_01: Um, so not that he doesn't have a lot of money, but that's a lot of money.
- 41:32SPEAKER_01: Um, so he put himself in a little bit of financial risk.
- 41:35SPEAKER_01: Um, did he put Ed Sheeran in a in a predicament?
- 41:39SPEAKER_01: A little bit.
- 41:40SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so he just he made that decision, and and that's a decision as a capitalist.
- 41:47SPEAKER_01: Now there are people on the left, AOC leading the charge.
- 41:50SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 41:50SPEAKER_01: Um, talking about how this is, you know, how how Mac Lamor has First Amendment rights.
- 41:55SPEAKER_01: He does 100%.
- 41:57SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, but Bob Kraft doesn't have to allow that inside of Gillette Stadium or whatever it's called this week.
- 42:04SPEAKER_01: I don't even know.
- 42:05SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, so he he doesn't have to let that happen.
- 42:09SPEAKER_01: And that's you know, nobody's saying McLaur can't say those things.
- 42:12SPEAKER_01: He certainly can.
- 42:13SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 42:14SPEAKER_01: If it was your house, right?
- 42:17SPEAKER_01: If you invited Macklemore to your house and he walked in and he started spouting those things or or worse things in front of your kids, right, or in front of other guests in your house, you would probably ask him to leave.
- 42:35SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 42:36SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 42:36SPEAKER_04: As a perfect analogy.
- 42:38SPEAKER_04: Perfect analogy.
- 42:39SPEAKER_01: This is the same thing.
- 42:40SPEAKER_01: Like, sorry, this I own this property, I don't want it happening here.
- 42:44SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't like what you're saying.
- 42:46SPEAKER_01: So you can say it, do it, you know, step off the property.
- 42:50SPEAKER_01: You can say whatever you want.
- 42:52SPEAKER_01: Um, and so you know, this is again, um, because I think he is a friend of President Trump, I think that's why AOC's going after him.
- 42:59SPEAKER_01: I think that's why you're gonna you're gonna get all of this this craziness going on.
- 43:04SPEAKER_01: Um, but and and it remains to be seen if there was any kind of colluding between Kraft and other NFL venue owners on on this.
- 43:12SPEAKER_01: But the reality is they all have the same right.
- 43:15SPEAKER_01: They all have the same right to say no.
- 43:17SPEAKER_01: And truthfully, this is this is America.
- 43:21SPEAKER_01: Like this is the exact example of America.
- 43:24SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 43:25SPEAKER_01: My seventh grade teacher, when we were learning the Constitution, said, You have a right to free speech, and it goes right, your right ends at the tip of your nose, she used to say.
- 43:33SPEAKER_01: So you can say what you want right up until it affects somebody else.
- 43:37SPEAKER_01: And this, you know, this is where it lies.
- 43:40SPEAKER_01: So I I say good for craft for taking a stand.
- 43:43SPEAKER_01: Um, I also think that Mac Lamore is going to keep doing what he's doing and he'll find his audience in other places, and that's the way things work.
- 43:51SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the one that's gonna um get hurt from this actually is Ed Sharon, really, because he can't, like you said, he's between a rock and a hard place.
- 43:58SPEAKER_04: The people who who Are Malcolmore fans, which by the way, I do have a video.
- 44:02SPEAKER_04: I don't even feel like playing it.
- 44:04SPEAKER_04: You can see that that stadium with him performing in it isn't even a quarter full.
- 44:09SPEAKER_04: So he's really not that big of a deal.
- 44:12SPEAKER_04: Like this is the extent of the attention.
- 44:15SPEAKER_01: He's already been replaced.
- 44:16SPEAKER_01: The guy that sang the um that kind of bluegrassy guy that sang the um oh, what's the name of that song?
- 44:23SPEAKER_01: It was like the Rich Men in Richmond or whatever it was called.
- 44:26SPEAKER_04: Oh, well, that's a big slip.
- 44:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that supposedly is the guy who is coming in to replace him.
- 44:34SPEAKER_04: Um and so Okay, I know exactly who you're talking about.
- 44:36SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to point out his name.
- 44:38SPEAKER_04: Oliver, something Oliver.
- 44:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fact check me on that one, but I read that somewhere.
- 44:42SPEAKER_01: So um he's already MacLa Moore's already gone.
- 44:45SPEAKER_01: He's been replaced with, you know, probably somebody a little bit more friendly to those venues.
- 44:48SPEAKER_01: And sure.
- 44:49SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 44:50SPEAKER_04: Well, I tell you what, if that's the case, um, absolutely brilliant on Ed Sharon's part because that um that's not that it's playing like the complete opposite um things because they're in different lanes, those those two guys, Malcolmore and uh Oliver Anthony, I think that's it.
- 45:08SPEAKER_04: Nah, I don't know.
- 45:08SPEAKER_04: I'm close, but um, if it's him, you know, he's very, you know, America, very uh he's uh religious.
- 45:16SPEAKER_04: He's a I think he's a Christian.
- 45:18SPEAKER_04: Um, so you know, good on Edge Hearing if that's what he did, because that's literally saying, see, I don't play favorites.
- 45:26SPEAKER_04: This had nothing to do with me.
- 45:28SPEAKER_04: I'm just giving people with talent an opportunity to open for my show, period.
- 45:32SPEAKER_04: End of story.
- 45:33SPEAKER_04: So um if that's the case, smart on his has his part there.
- 45:39SPEAKER_04: So we'll we'll see what happens.
- 45:40SPEAKER_04: I mean, you know, again, Malcolmore really does not mean much in the grand scheme of things.
- 45:46SPEAKER_04: So good luck to him, whatever.
- 45:49SPEAKER_04: He'll appeal to his fan base.
- 45:51SPEAKER_04: Hey, you mentioned AOC.
- 45:54SPEAKER_04: Let's talk about her.
- 45:56SPEAKER_04: What a surprise.
- 45:57SPEAKER_04: AOC is uh pushing a false narrative.
- 46:01SPEAKER_04: Um, what I mean, I'm I'm shocked.
- 46:04SPEAKER_04: Are you shocked?
- 46:06SPEAKER_01: Um it wasn't even her that started it.
- 46:10SPEAKER_01: She's just the biggest mouth is really what it boils down to.
- 46:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:15SPEAKER_01: So Representative Anna Presley from Massachusetts, I think, um, who's a dem, forwarded a letter citing, you know, that this is uh what were the words she used?
- 46:25SPEAKER_01: Racial terror, widespread lynchings, um, citing 10 specific quote unquote lynchings.
- 46:33SPEAKER_01: Um and and she forwarded that letter to Kosh Patel, Director Patel, the FBI, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, demanding for transparency.
- 46:43SPEAKER_01: Uh, and you know, what is it, one?
- 46:46SPEAKER_01: One's under investigation.
- 46:47SPEAKER_01: Well, I think I don't know if all I don't know if all of the other nine have been attributed to suicide, but I know the majority of them are, and the rest of the cases have been closed, and not and none of them have, with again, with the one pending investigation, none of them have been uh attributed to racial violence, racial anything, lynching of any kind.
- 47:14SPEAKER_01: Uh and y'all can correct me, yeah.
- 47:16SPEAKER_04: You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that I read that the one that is being investigated as a homicide was potentially or allegedly, that's what I'm looking for, allegedly perpetrated by a black man.
- 47:30SPEAKER_01: I I have read the same thing.
- 47:32SPEAKER_01: Like that's their crime.
- 47:32SPEAKER_04: I don't know if that's the case.
- 47:33SPEAKER_04: That's simply what I've read.
- 47:35SPEAKER_01: That's that's the theory, I think.
- 47:37SPEAKER_01: And it was, I think it had did it have something to do with like he hit on the guy's sister or something like that.
- 47:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was some, you know, I guess it would fall under the category of like a domestic violence type thing.
- 47:49SPEAKER_01: Something like that, but yes, and but still not racial, like there's nothing, you know.
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: So this this image that they're trying to portray that, you know, this is you know, the south of 19, you know, 15, um, you know, or or whatever, you're even into the 50s, um, is just not it's just not true.
- 48:09SPEAKER_01: And so the problem is that the media has you know spent three days talking about this, you know, the demand for FBI assets to be allocated to this when they're trying to do other things.
- 48:22SPEAKER_01: And folks, if you haven't seen Kash Patel's testimony in front of Congress in the last couple of days, catch the highlights of that because he went scorched earth on some dudes uh and dudettes.
- 48:36SPEAKER_01: Uh Hirono caught some flack.
- 48:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:39SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh he has other things to do, and and they're on this, and it's not a thing.
- 48:44SPEAKER_01: They're stirring up crap and they're trying to push FBI assets into something that that have already been settled.
- 48:50SPEAKER_04: So which is you know what they do.
- 48:52SPEAKER_04: Stop trying to make a thing that's not a thing into a thing.
- 48:58SPEAKER_04: Because that's that's one of their many, many tactics, right?
- 49:01SPEAKER_04: Deflect, uh, point something in the other, point everyone in a different direction in one that doesn't create a direction, one that doesn't even exist, isn't even a thing.
- 49:12SPEAKER_04: So um I would say AOC, AOC and and all the rest of them, you know, stop trying to make lynching a thing in 2026.
- 49:20SPEAKER_04: It is, it is not.
- 49:21SPEAKER_04: It's simply not.
- 49:23SPEAKER_04: And and by the way, you know, to state the obvious, but I'm gonna state it anyway, if there was any evidence that even one person was murdered um because she was black, obviously you're gonna investigate it.
- 49:34SPEAKER_04: We would expect and demand investigations and accountability and all of the things.
- 49:39SPEAKER_04: So nobody is dismissing um uh anything that may actually be that case.
- 49:45SPEAKER_04: So we're we're not even talking about that, but you just you don't get to turn suicide victims into lynching victims because it just kind of fits your narrative close enough.
- 49:57SPEAKER_04: Ridiculous.
- 49:59SPEAKER_01: That's what this is.
- 50:00SPEAKER_01: This is Bubba Wallace, the noose in the garage, which was actually just a it was a uh a looped pole handle for a garage door.
- 50:07SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
- 50:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's all it was.
- 50:10SPEAKER_04: Uh Jesse Smalley.
- 50:12SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 50:13SPEAKER_01: Just oh yeah.
- 50:18SPEAKER_04: So stop there are so many things in the world that you could rail against and legitimately take on bridge with and like you're gonna make things up, like really, it's ridiculous.
- 50:30SPEAKER_04: It truly is.
- 50:32SPEAKER_04: Um, let's move on to the next ridiculous.
- 50:38SPEAKER_04: Well then, so it's gonna be uh according to Gavin, really, right?
- 50:42SPEAKER_04: It's if it's if it's Kamala, if Kamala throws, so here's the gist of it.
- 50:46SPEAKER_04: If Kamala Harris, according to Gavin Newsom, if Kamala Harris throws her hat in the rink for 2028, he will graciously step back and he he won't do it.
- 50:56SPEAKER_04: Those were more or less his exact words, wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it to the party, wouldn't uh, you know.
- 51:01SPEAKER_04: That's right.
- 51:01SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so that is uh what he says.
- 51:04SPEAKER_04: So I don't know what Kamala threatened him with, or Kamala's people threatened him with, right?
- 51:10SPEAKER_01: Said it on a CNN interview.
- 51:12SPEAKER_01: Like this is not a random um off the cuff.
- 51:15SPEAKER_01: Like he said this during on CNN during an interview, and he said exactly what you said, which is if she runs, I won't, and if she's not, I'm gonna can't split the base, can't cause that kind of turmoil.
- 51:28SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, she hasn't declared yet, but she has been one of the top two front runners as a candidate uh for the longest time.
- 51:36SPEAKER_01: We do know we talked about this a couple of years ago, right?
- 51:39SPEAKER_01: He was told by the Clintons in a trip to Mexico uh that his time will come and to let Biden slash Kamala run for 2024, 2025.
- 51:54SPEAKER_01: Um, and and so he he backed off.
- 51:58SPEAKER_01: And now he's saying if she runs again, he's not gonna run.
- 52:02SPEAKER_01: So listen, we all know that he is uh a political animal, he's he has um you know elevated status on his brain.
- 52:12SPEAKER_01: Uh do you one do you believe him?
- 52:17SPEAKER_01: And two, if he doesn't run, did he miss his chance?
- 52:23SPEAKER_01: Because you know, you uh think of it in terms of this, folks.
- 52:28SPEAKER_01: So the next election cycle is shooting for an eight-year president, right?
- 52:35SPEAKER_01: So whether whichever party wins is shooting for a first term and then a second term, uh, whether it's Republican or Democrat.
- 52:43SPEAKER_01: So if the Dems win and it's not him, then whoever's in office is it's gonna be that person, that num that person's nominated or essentially is gonna be the candidate for eight years.
- 52:55SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 52:56SPEAKER_01: If it's the Republican side, whether it's Rubio or Vance or whoever else, he's gonna have to try and beat them twice.
- 53:03SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 53:04SPEAKER_01: And so if he doesn't run in 2028, did he miss his shot?
- 53:10SPEAKER_01: So do you believe him and did he miss his chance?
- 53:14SPEAKER_04: I cautiously believe him because I just I just think there's so much more going on behind the scenes um for him to even say that the man has an ego as you know big as the front swoop of his hair there.
- 53:28SPEAKER_04: Um so for him to say that, um I think he I think he means it.
- 53:35SPEAKER_04: I also think maybe he's like forcing her hand because she's like she's taking her sweet time.
- 53:40SPEAKER_04: She's, you know, she's maybe gonna well, she did that already, wait it to last minute, essentially, to kind of throw her hat in the ring.
- 53:48SPEAKER_04: So I don't know.
- 53:50SPEAKER_04: I I don't know.
- 53:50SPEAKER_04: Maybe he's forcing her hand.
- 53:52SPEAKER_04: Maybe she is undecided and he just wants to get this ball rolling, like you're either in or out.
- 53:57SPEAKER_04: You're gonna do it or you're not gonna do it.
- 53:59SPEAKER_04: And that will determine, you know.
- 54:01SPEAKER_04: Um, but I they're they're just like uh they're the cockroaches of the apocalypse, right?
- 54:08SPEAKER_04: Like they just they don't go away.
- 54:10SPEAKER_04: They never go away.
- 54:12SPEAKER_04: So I don't think that would be it for him.
- 54:14SPEAKER_04: I I think he would bite his time.
- 54:16SPEAKER_04: He's still relatively young.
- 54:18SPEAKER_04: Um, so he may just bite his time for after that that eight-year span, you know, if it were to go that route.
- 54:25SPEAKER_04: Um, please God don't.
- 54:28SPEAKER_04: Um, but also, of course, at the same time, y'all know that I'm I'm a little bit giddy.
- 54:33SPEAKER_04: A little bit giddy with the the prospect, and we've talked about it a few times, guys, um, of a a Kamala Harris AOC ticket.
- 54:43SPEAKER_04: Will that be the ticket if it were to be?
- 54:45SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't know.
- 54:46SPEAKER_04: Your guess is as good as mine.
- 54:47SPEAKER_04: What do you think, Clay?
- 54:48SPEAKER_04: Do you really like all the joking aside, all of the, you know, ha ha aside aside, do you think that would actually potentially be the ticket for them?
- 54:58SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 54:58SPEAKER_01: Here's why.
- 54:59SPEAKER_01: One, I think she is gonna run.
- 55:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I think if she gets murdered in the early stages, like she did, you know, a couple of times in the past, then she drops out of the race and then he becomes a late entry.
- 55:14SPEAKER_01: That's so there's that.
- 55:16SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 55:16SPEAKER_01: But if she's in and she is doing well, I think he becomes the vice president.
- 55:23SPEAKER_01: I think he's her vice.
- 55:24SPEAKER_01: So he's the white guy, he's the old white guy on the ticket.
- 55:27SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 55:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 55:29SPEAKER_01: Because I hate to say this.
- 55:31SPEAKER_01: We have never elected a woman president.
- 55:34SPEAKER_01: We damn sure are not gonna elect two women on the same ticket.
- 55:38SPEAKER_01: Never happened.
- 55:39SPEAKER_01: So I think if she has a fight, and I think this is the agreement.
- 55:42SPEAKER_01: I think this has been agreed upon behind closed doors, is that if she is showing success, he becomes the vice presidential candidate, period over and out.
- 55:51SPEAKER_01: That's his that's his, you know, 30 pieces of silver for staying out of out of the race itself and allowing her to run.
- 55:59SPEAKER_01: But if she gets smoked, if she's getting crushed, then he will be free to enter the race as a late entry because they've already proven that it doesn't matter when you enter the race.
- 56:09SPEAKER_01: They don't care.
- 56:10SPEAKER_04: So true.
- 56:11SPEAKER_04: So true.
- 56:11SPEAKER_04: They'll basically play their same, their same, um same trick, right?
- 56:16SPEAKER_04: Same game.
- 56:16SPEAKER_04: Yeah, a little bait and switch.
- 56:18SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna start you off with this one and then just switch it out when it's convenient for us and throw her under the bus again.
- 56:26SPEAKER_01: Or maybe maybe he's the VP candidate for whoever gets the ticket.
- 56:31SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's that might be the deal they cut with him, too.
- 56:34SPEAKER_01: Is that he is unless it's another old white guy, which I don't think it will be.
- 56:39SPEAKER_01: Um, but he is he is like the you know, the tote, he's the token.
- 56:43SPEAKER_01: He is the token white guy on the ticket.
- 56:45SPEAKER_04: Uh how about that?
- 56:46SPEAKER_04: How about that?
- 56:47SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
- 56:49SPEAKER_04: Well, as always, it's uh it will not not fail to be entertaining, whichever direction this goes.
- 56:55SPEAKER_04: Entertaining and terrifying at the same time, uh right?
- 56:58SPEAKER_04: A little bit of both.
- 57:00SPEAKER_04: Speaking of old white guys, speaking of old white guys, what the actual heck, dude.
- 57:06SPEAKER_04: Come on, Mitch McConnell, the the current Cripkeeper.
- 57:10SPEAKER_04: You know, we used to call uh um what's her face?
- 57:14SPEAKER_04: Nancy Pelosi, right?
- 57:15SPEAKER_04: Oh, Maxine, the Cripkeeper.
- 57:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's right.
- 57:17SPEAKER_04: That's true.
- 57:18SPEAKER_04: Good point.
- 57:19SPEAKER_04: Um, this guy, good grief.
- 57:21SPEAKER_04: So here, is this the video?
- 57:23SPEAKER_04: Uh no, I don't think I have the video.
- 57:26SPEAKER_04: Um, so they rolled him in, wheeled him in in his wheelchair.
- 57:30SPEAKER_04: This is like the first real sighting of of him in thank you.
- 57:36SPEAKER_04: Um, wheeled him in and uh listen, I'm gonna tell you, I don't know if you guys saw it.
- 57:41SPEAKER_04: I I did watch the video.
- 57:43SPEAKER_04: Sorry, guys, I thought I had it, but I don't, um, of him.
- 57:46SPEAKER_04: And it's, you know, kind of an extended thing.
- 57:49SPEAKER_04: And you see him wheeled in, and then they have a different angle, and they show him, and he's different people are talking with him.
- 57:56SPEAKER_04: And I I will say he looks like he's carrying on a coherent conversation.
- 58:01SPEAKER_04: He's gesturing, he doesn't look like he's, you know, in a vegetative state, as you know, we would be imagining him to likely be a corpse-like state, you know, weekend at Bernie's type thing.
- 58:13SPEAKER_04: Um, so I don't know.
- 58:17SPEAKER_04: I mean, this is he's like the poster child number three or four or five of you know, there needs to be term limits.
- 58:25SPEAKER_04: Like you cannot be this age, this incapacitated.
- 58:30SPEAKER_04: Um what does it matter what we say and think, Clay?
- 58:34SPEAKER_04: I mean, it doesn't change anything.
- 58:37SPEAKER_01: There's there are conspiracy theories out there, by the way, that the same um whoever made them, they say whoever made the mask for Biden did a better job for McConnell, because I've seen some side by sides where people are like, oh, his his nose is a little different, and there's this, and he has his coloring's different.
- 58:55SPEAKER_01: Well, he's he's spent the last three months in bed, right?
- 58:58SPEAKER_01: So the guy fell, which is the report.
- 59:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 59:01SPEAKER_01: He fell three months ago.
- 59:02SPEAKER_01: He's been, you know, in in home care, um, and and now he's back.
- 59:07SPEAKER_01: And of course, you have all the conspiracy theorists.
- 59:09SPEAKER_01: I think the question goes back to exactly what you're saying, which is why do we keep allowing this?
- 59:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 59:16SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, Secretary Austin disappeared, right?
- 59:19SPEAKER_01: You remember that?
- 59:20SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 59:20SPEAKER_01: How big of a deal that was, and and everybody was up in arms, like, oh, the sec def was gone for you know, however long he was out of the office and everybody flipped out.
- 59:29SPEAKER_01: Uh on the Republican side, by the way.
- 59:31SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 59:32SPEAKER_01: Um, and and everybody flipped out.
- 59:34SPEAKER_01: And now you've got a congressman who's been out for three months that nobody has even seen.
- 59:39SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 59:39SPEAKER_01: Um, and and how is he being allowed to retain his office?
- 59:44SPEAKER_01: How are the voters allowing that?
- 59:46SPEAKER_01: How are the other members of Congress allowing that?
- 59:49SPEAKER_01: Like we should never allow an elected official to take a three-month unexplained uh hiatus.
- 59:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 59:59SPEAKER_01: No, it's this is completely unexplainable.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_04: And who is it?
- 1:00:04SPEAKER_04: There's somebody, one of the females, uh, she's she's like in uh dementia care right now, or that's the rumor, right?
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_04: I forget, I forget who it is, but in dementia care, yet still somehow people are putting in her vote, I guess.
- 1:00:18SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 1:00:21SPEAKER_04: It's it's so it's so out of control.
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_04: And you know, and I and by the way, I'm not laughing at a frail old man.
- 1:00:28SPEAKER_04: It's not him as a human being that I'm laughing at.
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_04: I'm laughing, and it's by the way, it's sarcastic, ironic laughter, not even humorous laughter, uh, at the situation.
- 1:00:40SPEAKER_04: Because if you don't laugh, uh you're just you steam is just gonna come out of your head at the absurdity and the disgrace and offense to us, the people.
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_04: It's just disgraceful, it really is.
- 1:00:53SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, I mean I hate talking about things without offering a solution or a brighter side to it, but they're just going to like they listen, they just whoever it was, um, what's his name, just dropped at 14 or 18 articles of impeachment against um Secretary Heggs.
- 1:01:13SPEAKER_01: Um and like it if this is it, like that's exactly what should happen to Mitch McConnell.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_01: And and it's just the guy needs to go.
- 1:01:23SPEAKER_01: The voters can't shouldn't tolerate this stuff.
- 1:01:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:01:26SPEAKER_01: Uh, and that is the answer.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_01: That's why you we have that ability.
- 1:01:28SPEAKER_01: Like, if you don't show up to work, what job can you not show up to work for three months without an explanation and just go back like nothing happened?
- 1:01:36SPEAKER_04: Like it you know, and be welcomed with open arms.
- 1:01:39SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like it's ridiculous.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_01: So he needs to go.
- 1:01:42SPEAKER_01: Um, period.
- 1:01:44SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, yep, agreed.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_04: I think I mean if uh uh listen, I need to know who you are if you disagree with the any of this.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_04: I who are you and what's wrong with you?
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_04: I mean that kindly.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_04: Uh okay, we got two more to do.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_04: We have a bonus one that is not on our list, but we'll talk about that one last.
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_04: Uh, let's talk about Brennan.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_04: He's been subpoenaed, right?
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so former director CIA has been subpoenaed uh in the what is being called a far-reaching investigation, uh, but it is essentially the Obama-Biden Russia gate election interference.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think your question at the beginning of the show was as spot on as it is.
- 1:02:30SPEAKER_01: Like, is this retribution or is this legitimate investigation about election interference?
- 1:02:37SPEAKER_01: And I don't know how much space there is between those two options, yeah.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:46SPEAKER_04: I I just I don't know.
- 1:02:47SPEAKER_04: You know, I don't have any answers.
- 1:02:49SPEAKER_04: This is my day of zero answers.
- 1:02:52SPEAKER_04: I got nothing.
- 1:02:54SPEAKER_01: But you know he's under investigation for something for lying to Congress, right?
- 1:02:58SPEAKER_01: So he's actually he's he's got two things, two legal matters going on.
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_01: I think the interesting thing about this latest one is that the lead prosecutor, Joe Dijinova, uh resigned the same day that he was subpoenaed.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_01: So, with no explanation that I have seen or could find.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_01: So either the lead prosecutor for this case disagrees with subpoena the subpoena for um Brennan, or there's something else going on.
- 1:03:28SPEAKER_01: But it it's a little odd the timing can't be ignored.
- 1:03:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_04: Well, you know, I mean, one of our favorite words ever is accountability, right?
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_04: So it's I I I guess the two ways you can look at it is is accountability isn't revenge, but revenge if it's dressed up as accountability isn't justice either.
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_04: So, you know, I I you just picking which one it is, right?
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_04: Which one is it?
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_04: I guess it all depends on who you are and what side of things you're on, what your perspective's gonna be on it.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_04: But yeah, so obviously we'll keep watching that, guys.
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_04: And um, you want to go on to a fun one?
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_01: Because everybody Yeah, we gotta have our name National Inquirer to someone, and they had they were so young they had no idea what you were talking about.
- 1:04:21SPEAKER_04: Yep, yes, so Sydney Sweeney is once again uh making headlines, and um, I don't know, all the wrong reasons, all the right reasons.
- 1:04:31SPEAKER_04: Again, depends on what your perspective is on it.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_04: So she didn't add uh it fill in the blanks for me too, because I I'm a little slightly outside the loop on this.
- 1:04:41SPEAKER_04: So she didn't add it.
- 1:04:42SPEAKER_04: Was it for NFL?
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_01: Was it for sports or site called Nope.
- 1:04:48SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_01: And so yeah, so they they used her.
- 1:04:52SPEAKER_01: Who's the target audience for an online betting sports betting site?
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's men, it's and it's generally men in their 20s, 30s, and 40s is the target audience for this stuff.
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_01: So and oh, by the way, she has an financial investment in this company, so she wants it to be successful.
- 1:05:12SPEAKER_01: So what does she do?
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_01: She poses naked, using sports equipment to cover her assets, and uh and and it became a thing.
- 1:05:22SPEAKER_01: And and it's you know, it's she's she is who she is, she's a conservative girl, she's not afraid of showing herself as a woman, she has the ability to do that, she's making a lot of money doing it, and there are people that don't like it.
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_04: There are people who are mad, they think that it is an absolute disgrace to to womanhood, which is hilarious, isn't it?
- 1:05:49SPEAKER_04: We're already laughing about this.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_04: Um, that she sets back uh the feminist movement uh decades uh or centuries or whatever.
- 1:06:01SPEAKER_04: They're just appalled and dismayed and disgusted by her overt display of sexuality.
- 1:06:08SPEAKER_04: And they're mad about it.
- 1:06:10SPEAKER_04: They're not mad about who was who would you say Megan Rapino?
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_04: Who's the other one?
- 1:06:14SPEAKER_01: No, they're Megan Rapino and her, I don't know if they're still married, Stu Bird, who's a you know a uh basketball player, but there are there are current female athletes who are very upset about this, right?
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_01: And they say, oh, this sets back women in sports.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_01: She's not an athlete.
- 1:06:31SPEAKER_01: She's never claimed to be an athlete.
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_01: You know, she played high school sports, I think.
- 1:06:35SPEAKER_01: But like this is not about women in sports.
- 1:06:39SPEAKER_01: This is about sports betting and advertising, which is what she's doing.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_01: But those same women athletes, they have had no complaints about, you know, whether it's Serena Williams or, you know, Megan Rapino or pick any of your other female athletes, Gabby Reese and Rhonda Rousey and all these other women who have posed in the ESPN body issue or Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue or Maxim Magazine or any of the rest of these things, they never had a problem with it until it's someone they don't like.
- 1:07:12SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 1:07:13SPEAKER_01: And now it's a problem.
- 1:07:15SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, it's there's two sides to it.
- 1:07:18SPEAKER_01: There's the female athletes and then the female journalists, quote unquote, which you're talking about, who says she's setting back the feminist movement and all these other things.
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_01: They're not saying she's an unbelievably successful businesswoman.
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_01: They're not saying that she is making a lot of money, they're not saying that she's a partial owner of this business or anything else.
- 1:07:36SPEAKER_01: They're focusing purely on the fact that she decided to go partially nude to do it.
- 1:07:44SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
- 1:07:46SPEAKER_04: So, you know, once again, the hypocrisy lives large in these people, and it's a laughable joke.
- 1:07:52SPEAKER_04: And you know who's laughing the hardest?
- 1:07:54SPEAKER_04: Sydney Sweeney, all the way to the bank.
- 1:07:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:59SPEAKER_04: And listen, my my personal opinions on, you know, gratuitous nudity and provocative this and the other.
- 1:08:07SPEAKER_04: Listen, I, you know, uh in a perfect world, I would love for her to showcase her actual intellect and uh talents and all of those things.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_04: The flip side of that is her body, her choice, right, guys?
- 1:08:20SPEAKER_04: Her body, her choice.
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_04: She can do what she wants, right?
- 1:08:23SPEAKER_04: Like what happened to what happened to that?
- 1:08:25SPEAKER_04: Where do we go?
- 1:08:26SPEAKER_04: You know, so yeah, it's just laughable and absurd.
- 1:08:30SPEAKER_04: And and uh again, she's just laughing all of the way to the bank.
- 1:08:33SPEAKER_04: She does not care.
- 1:08:35SPEAKER_04: She is she is the epitome of unbothered.
- 1:08:39SPEAKER_04: So stay mad, folks.
- 1:08:42SPEAKER_04: Stay mad.
- 1:08:44SPEAKER_04: And I'll cheer her on.
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_04: I'll cheer her on.
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_04: I prefer, you know, I prefer she did with her clothes on, but whatever.
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_04: Doesn't matter what I think.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_04: And I don't I don't have the kind of ego that makes me think that she or anyone should care what I think.
- 1:08:57SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of women who sit exactly where you're sitting right now.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_01: Sage Steele is one of them who I love.
- 1:09:03SPEAKER_01: Sage Steele is great.
- 1:09:04SPEAKER_01: She's been in the sports commentary industry for decades.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_01: Um, and she's been shunned, right?
- 1:09:10SPEAKER_01: Because she's a conservative.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_01: But she she looks at it the same way.
- 1:09:14SPEAKER_01: Would I would I prefer she did it another way?
- 1:09:17SPEAKER_01: Of course I would, right?
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_01: But I I'm not stopping her.
- 1:09:21SPEAKER_01: She's doing great, she's doing her thing, she's okay with it.
- 1:09:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it is what it is.
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of women sitting in the exact same space that you are.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_01: They would prefer that she doesn't, but hey, like you said, my body, my choice.
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_04: My body, my choice.
- 1:09:36SPEAKER_04: Do what we're gonna do.
- 1:09:36SPEAKER_04: If I want to wear my shirt off my shoulder, because somebody always comments on that.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_04: Every does not fail.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_04: Does not fail.
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_04: Like, why do you have to wear?
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_04: Why are you showing your shoulder?
- 1:09:49SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
- 1:09:51SPEAKER_04: Gasp, horror.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_04: I, you know, listen.
- 1:09:54SPEAKER_04: Um I I'm a product of the 80s, and oh, by the way, I don't actually owe an explanation.
- 1:10:00SPEAKER_04: It's what I choose, it's my style, it's what I do.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_04: So, and the same can and should and is said, at least by me, for Sydney Sweetie.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_04: Doesn't doesn't matter my opinion on it.
- 1:10:11SPEAKER_04: And y'all, your opinions don't matter.
- 1:10:14SPEAKER_04: They don't matter to the person that you're projecting them onto because that person is just gonna live their life and do their thing.
- 1:10:22SPEAKER_04: So you affect nothing except for your own, uh, I don't know, your own agitation levels.
- 1:10:29SPEAKER_04: So just calm down, scroll.
- 1:10:33SPEAKER_01: If she was overweight, uh minority race, trans, any any of those things, she would be applauded, she would be a hero.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_04: She would be brave, yeah, she would be called brave, yeah.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_01: Strong, yes, she would be all of those things, but because she is pure American, blonde, beautiful, built, uh, and conservative, like that's why it's not okay.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_04: Everything that they hate, and uh, you know, it everybody sees through the nonsense.
- 1:11:06SPEAKER_04: So go go cry harder, all of the things.
- 1:11:10SPEAKER_04: So we thank you, we thank you, drama queens, for crying about this because you gave us our last topic to laugh about.
- 1:11:17SPEAKER_04: So there you go.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_04: All right, guys.
- 1:11:21SPEAKER_04: That was actually eight topics for you today for us to talk about and for hopefully you guys to chime in on in the comments section.
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- 1:11:38SPEAKER_04: Clay, go ahead and close them on out.
- 1:11:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, appreciate everybody chiming in or tuning in this week.
- 1:11:45SPEAKER_01: Uh, we had a bunch of folks uh on board last week, which was a lot of fun.
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_01: So um, we will see you again next week because the news cycle never stops.
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