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TABLE TALK: Flyers Trades And Trade Rumors · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: What's going on everybody. Hope you are doing well.
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  Speaker 2: We recorded this podcast episode and Table Talk interview show
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  Speaker 2: on Monday, February tenth, twenty twenty five. By the time
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  Speaker 2: A lot of us are still in shock and awe
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  Speaker 2: as we are moving forward. We're gonna be getting into
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Philadelphia Flyers Talk this week. There was
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  Speaker 2: a recent trade which we really want to get into
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  Speaker 2: and dissect on this Table Talk podcast, so we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get to that right now, as well as some other
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  Speaker 1: Joining us this week to get into some Flyers talk.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely love talking to her from the Locked On Flyers podcast,
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  Speaker 1: one and only Rachel Donner. How you doing, Rachel, I
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  Speaker 1: am good.
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  Speaker 3: As we were just talking offline, it's still kind of
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  Speaker 3: coming down from the Eagles, yes, but very important flyers
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  Speaker 3: stuff to talk.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of important flyer stuff going on. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: last week on our podcast, Rachel, I mean, we briefly
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  Speaker 2: dove into the trade the Flyers recently made, sending Joel
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  Speaker 2: Farrabee and Morgan Frost a Calgary for Jacob Peltier and
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  Speaker 2: Andre Kuzmenko some future draft capital as well that the
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  Speaker 2: Flyers acquired.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I've been giving it some thought.
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  Speaker 2: Over the course of this past week, and I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: to myself, I guess, I guess first after digesting this
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  Speaker 2: trade from what you have been able to like take
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  Speaker 2: in from it, first off, do you like it? If so,
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  Speaker 2: why or why not? Then I'll do a follow up
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  Speaker 2: question with you, So, after you've digested this trade, do
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  Speaker 2: you like it?
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  Speaker 1: Why or why not?
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  Speaker 3: I am more and more convinced that you cannot answer
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  Speaker 3: that question, right, okay, And I'll tell you why because
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  Speaker 3: and Danny Breyer pretty much said as much that this
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  Speaker 3: is part one of a two part deal right where
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  Speaker 3: he had a clear cap space and you know, figure
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  Speaker 3: out roster construction and all that to have the space
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  Speaker 3: and the means to either get a one seat or
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  Speaker 3: a top defenseman more likely a one seat, right, Grier
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  Speaker 3: is talking, right, And so I feel like if part
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  Speaker 3: two isn't successful, part one is.
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  Speaker 1: Bad, right right, right? Absolutely, Like the two.
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  Speaker 3: Parts of this deal that Danny is attempting here have
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  Speaker 3: to go hand in hand. And I would say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you look at Joel Ferraby and Morgan Frost, right maybe
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  Speaker 3: not maybe definitely not as strong of seasons as you
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  Speaker 3: would have hoped for them, right and so, and with
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  Speaker 3: Farby's contract, it made sense that if you're going to
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  Speaker 3: trade guys in a deal like this to set yourselves
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  Speaker 3: up to try and acquire a one seat. Sure, these
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  Speaker 3: two guys made sense. But there's an emotional gap on
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  Speaker 3: this team now. They were very very like, well liked.
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  Speaker 3: Plus the unfortunate luck of the delay of Peltier and
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  Speaker 3: Kuzmenko getting there made that emotional gap glass longer, and
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  Speaker 3: so and I think it's had like a negative effect
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  Speaker 3: on the locker room. I don't know that it's a
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  Speaker 3: long lasting effect, because we'll see what these new guys,
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  Speaker 3: but I think that, you know, they's just the unfortunate circumstances,
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  Speaker 3: plus given who they traded away and the fact that
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  Speaker 3: this is not the completion of the mission. Danny Brier
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  Speaker 3: has like, I'm just having a hard time grading it
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely fair, Rachel.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's fair because again, like I said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've been digesting this now for about a week here,
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  Speaker 2: and the paperwork issue with them getting into the United States.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what a kick in the nuts that was
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the actual.
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  Speaker 3: Not entirely their fault, not entirely.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame.
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  Speaker 3: The Flyers necessarily for it, given the circumstances, but I
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  Speaker 3: just it's it has an effect, whether it's your fault
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  Speaker 3: or not, it has an.
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  Speaker 2: Effect absolutely well. The second part of this topic in
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  Speaker 2: question that I wanted to get your opinion on it,
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  Speaker 2: and it's essentially what Lennon and I were talking about
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  Speaker 2: last week on our show, is what the trade says
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  Speaker 2: about the Flyer's front office at this point during this rebuild,
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  Speaker 2: this restructuring, you know, whatever we want to call it.
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  Speaker 2: Really here at this point, I'm getting just tired of
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  Speaker 2: the phrase rebuild as we're moving along here with this,
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  Speaker 2: But what does this trade say about the front office
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  Speaker 2: aside from the cap space. I mean, there's been a
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  Speaker 2: narrative that Danny Brier wasn't going to make the big trade. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know what when he came into the fold last
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  Speaker 2: year's GM, he had to make some moves. He got
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  Speaker 2: rid of some guys that weren't going to be long
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  Speaker 2: term for this team. Kind of easy type of transactions
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  Speaker 2: that he was making. Is Danny Brier gonna make the
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  Speaker 2: tough choices? That's kind of been that narrative behind the
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  Speaker 2: scenes here that we've all been talking about. We see
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  Speaker 2: this and it's kind of like, wow, Okay, Danny Brier
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  Speaker 2: is making some decisions here. It goes to what you
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  Speaker 2: were saying before with that first question of you know what,
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  Speaker 2: we really can't grade it now, but I do wonder
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  Speaker 2: what this particular transaction does say about this front office
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  Speaker 2: at this point during this restructuring rebus.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: I think it shows that Danny Brier is willing to
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  Speaker 3: change the plan if he feels like there's some a
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  Speaker 3: better way to do it right, And you know, whether
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  Speaker 3: it is better or not again remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that this probably wasn't necessarily the plan
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  Speaker 3: to make this kind of of a big move. I
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  Speaker 3: think he expected Joel Ferby and Morgan Frost to be
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  Speaker 3: better for the team, yes, honestly, and so I didn't
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  Speaker 3: think he was going to want to trade these guys
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  Speaker 3: at this point. And I also think that the team
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  Speaker 3: being better than they thought last year and slightly better,
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  Speaker 3: then they need to to get a top top pick
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  Speaker 3: in a much much weaker draft than was originally projected
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  Speaker 3: to three years ago. Right looking at this draft class,
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  Speaker 3: I think they thought they would be able to get
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  Speaker 3: those top players in the draft this year and they
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  Speaker 3: lost that bet, and so he Briers had to change
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  Speaker 3: tactics a little bit, and I think that you know, again,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's successful, we'll see, But the fact that he's
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  Speaker 3: willing to change tactics, he doesn't you know, see like
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have blinders on and isn't singularly focused.
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  Speaker 2: I hate bringing a good thing absolutely and I hate
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  Speaker 2: bringing up the name, but it's not a Chuck fletchersh
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  Speaker 2: type of situation. If this is Chuck Fletchers'd be running
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  Speaker 2: right into a brick wall doing the same thing over
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  Speaker 2: and over and over again. And if you have a
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  Speaker 2: general manager, I don't care what sport it is that's
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  Speaker 2: willing to change the plan because they're seeing what is
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  Speaker 2: happening with the product. I think there's some level of
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  Speaker 2: growth there, you know, in various degrees.
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  Speaker 3: So it's still so young in his role as an NHLGH. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I think the fact that I feel like he is
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  Speaker 3: learning and growing and willing to change his mind, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, we've only seen one game thus far with
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  Speaker 2: Andre Kuzmenko, and and he certainly has some puck skills.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say that. You know, he's somebody who I really
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  Speaker 2: haven't like honed in on over the years in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the NHL, in terms of his skill level. From
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  Speaker 2: what we saw in that one game against Penguins, he
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  Speaker 2: could be a dangerous offensive weapon down the stretch. And
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  Speaker 2: of course the front office brass would obviously love to
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  Speaker 2: see that, as teammates would love to see that, as
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  Speaker 2: fans would absolutely love to see that. Rachel, what should
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  Speaker 2: we be expecting? What should we be hoping to see
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  Speaker 2: from Kuzmenko as he's now playing for his third NHL
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  Speaker 2: team here?
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it's interesting because in his introductory media availability,
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  Speaker 3: he was a little cagey about his future and potential.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't necessarily play for a contract. He's
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  Speaker 3: playing for now and there's the twenty some odd games.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever's left, you know, in terms of what he can
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  Speaker 3: do to prove himself. And I think that we don't
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  Speaker 3: know what's going on in his head. Is he trying
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  Speaker 3: to prove himself together another NHL contract? Who knows? Does
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  Speaker 3: he want to go home to Russia? Who knows? Right,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's hard to tell. I hope we get
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  Speaker 3: the best of him, because he's going to want to
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  Speaker 3: show out regardless of what he wants to do moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that it would be good to see
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  Speaker 3: where potential chemistry is and if he can help support
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  Speaker 3: Mitch Cough and if the Flyers are willing to kind
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  Speaker 3: of roll out the red carpet for him and maybe
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  Speaker 3: offer him if he plays well and is helping Mitch.
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  Speaker 1: Cough, yes, let's say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, you know, are they willing to throw him
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  Speaker 3: a positive deal?
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's going to be some sort of
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  Speaker 2: connection there between the Russians, between mitchcob.
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  Speaker 1: And like, I wonder if that could be. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a wait and see process.
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  Speaker 3: But didn't play him on the same line, and.
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  Speaker 1: That is true. That is true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's still time and we have John
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  Speaker 2: Tortorella as the coach, so let's see what happens there.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted to move on to one of the
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  Speaker 2: newest Flyers acquisitions as well, Jacob Peltier. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: definitely a smaller type of player from what we know.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it seems to be, uh, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: needing to put on some pounds, some muscle in the future.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he said if he's going to play every
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  Speaker 2: shift in Philly, these are his words, that he's going
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  Speaker 2: to play every shift like it's his last. What do
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  Speaker 2: you want to see, hopefully from Jacob Ltier as he
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  Speaker 2: becomes a restricted free agent at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 2: What do you hope we can see in this last
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  Speaker 2: half of the season from him?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he also said, you know, he plays like a
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  Speaker 3: dog on a bone, right, that was another thing he
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  Speaker 3: said in that interview session. And yeah, I just I
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  Speaker 3: want to see all that. I want to see the
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  Speaker 3: potential because he's always been a very skilled player, a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a two way guy. Good vision, he's
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  Speaker 3: got a good shot, he's got creativity, he's got flexibility
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  Speaker 3: in terms of I think at his size he's not
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  Speaker 3: really going to play center, but he can in a pinch.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we're going to talk about Scott Lawton,
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  Speaker 3: but if they trade Scott Lawton, yeah, Peltia is not
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  Speaker 3: a bad guy to have around exactly, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: assuming he can live up to that potential. And again
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  Speaker 3: he has these remaining games to prove it and see
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  Speaker 3: if they'll qualify it.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely Again, folks, we're talking to Rachel Donner from the
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  Speaker 2: Locked On Flyers podcast. I subscribe on Apple podcast and
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  Speaker 2: Search out the Locked On Flyers podcast. And you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: Scott Lawton, yes, we have to get into him as well.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of fans upset that Scott Lawton potentially might
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  Speaker 2: be traded before the March seventh deadline where you know
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  Speaker 2: here in those same here, I mean, so many of
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  Speaker 2: us like him as one of those you know, quote
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  Speaker 2: culture guys within the organization. What he means to the Flyers.
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  Speaker 2: And i'd like to get your thoughts about this rumor
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  Speaker 2: of Scott Lawton being traded and do you think the
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  Speaker 2: front office I don't know. I don't know if they're
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  Speaker 2: they're racing to get anything from him, racing to get
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  Speaker 2: him to another team to gain more assets here, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. What are your thoughts on the on this
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  Speaker 2: entire situation here with regard to this rumor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's interesting because I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be the same situation as last year with
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  Speaker 3: him because Brier loves him and has said as much,
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  Speaker 3: and the price is very high for him, and so
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  Speaker 3: you know, and we're talking about this on our Tuesday
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  Speaker 3: show of Lockdown Flyers. So we have a full like
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  Speaker 3: segment on that if you want to take a listen.
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  Speaker 3: And also my co host Russ Cohen has to say
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  Speaker 3: about it. As well. But you look at where he
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  Speaker 3: is this year versus last year, and I would say that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, scoring wise, he's pretty close to where he
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  Speaker 3: was last year. He's only two goals short of his
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  Speaker 3: total from last season. He did have that four goal
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  Speaker 3: game that kind of bumps it a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a bit, But goals a goal, so we'll take it.
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  Speaker 3: I think like his overall skills have diminished a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: We see a few more mistakes out there on the ice,
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  Speaker 3: and so can they ask for a first rounder for him?
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  Speaker 3: They can ask, I don't think they're going to get it.
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  Speaker 3: And so the combination of the price being high and
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they've treated two poor identity guys away
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  Speaker 3: in Frost and Farraby, who are a huge part of
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  Speaker 3: that team culture, are the Flyers going to be interested
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  Speaker 3: in trading another core person of the team culture? And
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  Speaker 3: are they willing to let the culture change even though
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  Speaker 3: even though it may change in a positive way or
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  Speaker 3: it's just be different, Like do they want that change
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  Speaker 3: to happen now or do they want to keep lott
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  Speaker 3: and around to hold that kind of locker room sensibility together.
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  Speaker 2: There is something to be said, and we've said it
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  Speaker 2: so many times, and folks in general, I think know it,
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  Speaker 2: Rachel is how much the culture means to a perforational
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  Speaker 2: sports team. And my goodness, this Flyers organization has been
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  Speaker 2: through the ringer when it comes to culture, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: garbage culture, whether it's guys really rooting each other on,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's it's coaches that we've seen over all these years.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Towards has been here a little while now,
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  Speaker 2: but there is something to be said for culture. I'm
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  Speaker 2: hoping Scott Lawton stays. I'm hoping that he is not traded.
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  Speaker 2: But and because I fear that if he is traded,
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  Speaker 2: that culture that is currently there and I hope is
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  Speaker 2: still there even after Farrabie and for Us were traded,
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  Speaker 2: I think they need to keep at least a foundational
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  Speaker 2: piece of that, and I really think Scott Lawton really
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  Speaker 2: exemplifies that foundational piece of the culture.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it could be fine if they
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  Speaker 3: trade him. Yeah, or it'll just be different if they
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  Speaker 3: trade him, And that's okay, It's just you know, are
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  Speaker 3: you willing to do that?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Again, folks like Rachel said her and her co host
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  Speaker 2: Ruscohen on the Locked On Flyers podcast. Where're we're uploading
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  Speaker 2: this and recording this on Monday, February tenth. On Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: February eleventh, they're really going to be getting into this
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  Speaker 2: aspect of what the Flyers may do and what it
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  Speaker 2: means for the team, So be sure to check out
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  Speaker 2: that Locked on Flyers podcast episode. Wanted to move along
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  Speaker 2: to Rasmus Risto lane In. He's another Flyer that is
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  Speaker 2: rumored to be traded before the deadline. There's been a
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  Speaker 2: lot of talk about this now for at least a
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  Speaker 2: month month and a half or so, Rachel, It's been
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  Speaker 2: reported that due to other trades and transactions throughout the NHL,
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  Speaker 2: that the momentum in the market for Risto may actually
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  Speaker 2: be shrinking here. So I'm wondering, are you seeing this?
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  Speaker 2: Are you concerned about this? You know, what are your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on where Risto may go if he is traded
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  Speaker 2: and in terms of this storyline, what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting now with him being injured, obviously
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  Speaker 3: that's a huge wrench in it right, but overall he's
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  Speaker 3: played extremely well yes this season, but it's like do
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  Speaker 3: teams need him? And I think that trading him now
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  Speaker 3: would be more of a commitment to taking that step
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  Speaker 3: backwards a little bit, because we saw that happen last
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  Speaker 3: season with Sean Walker that on an expiring contract, he
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  Speaker 3: left the team. The team suffered defensively, they did not
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  Speaker 3: make the playoffs, And I think last year that's fine
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  Speaker 3: that that happened. I do think there was some you know,
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  Speaker 3: effects in the locker room in terms of confidence and
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  Speaker 3: all of that. You could talk about that, but I
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  Speaker 3: do think something similar could happen with Risto. I think
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  Speaker 3: it makes it a weaker Liars blue line. Now make
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  Speaker 3: Andre there permanently, but he's a totally different kind of defense.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just it'll make it very different, and you
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  Speaker 3: have to be willing to live with that and kind
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  Speaker 3: of go through what you did last year. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that anybody expects this team to make the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: whereas last year I think it was a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more likely given that the players were in a playoff position,
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  Speaker 3: like relatively close to the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 2: They played the first half of the season last year
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  Speaker 2: pretty darn well.
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  Speaker 1: It was nice run.
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  Speaker 3: Much different, much different this year. So it's almost like
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  Speaker 3: this is a better scenario to trade Wristo if you
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  Speaker 3: want to try and move up in the manufacturer way,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: to move up in the draft a little bit, but
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you also have to see what toll that takes on
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: the locker room.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's something to be said for that culture.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's not necessarily the culture, it's the it's the
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: lack of winning, yes, and how losing is very demoralizing
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and you have to take that into consideration.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, well, my friend, before I let you go, look,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: there's still a lot of hockey left to be played,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: even as the Flyers are really at the bottom of
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the Metropolitan Division here at this point, I'm trying to
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: think of where I want this team to go during
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: this last half of the season, what I'd like to see.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: There's less than a month before the trade deadline. We're
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: talking about all these different scenarios through our discussion here,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: but I'm wondering, what is your overall hope for what
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: you want to see from the Flyers coming out of
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the break and for the last half of this season,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: because I think there is still some hope with this team,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: hope for this restructured rebuild as well balancing all of
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: that together. I don't know what's your overall hope for
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: what to see during this last half of the season.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be extremely important what happens
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: in this upcoming off season as far as rosters changes,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: as far as how they strategize all the picks they
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: have this year. And in order to do that, you
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: need to know what you got, and so I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: it's important. And John Trebuderilla has said very definitively that
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: they're going to bring guys up from Lehigh Valley like
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: they did with Jacob Gosche Right, Yeah, that they need
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: to see what they have organizationally so they can effectively
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: make these decisions. And that's the thing I want to
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: see the most is I want to see them set
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: themselves up to take a step forward next season. And
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: in order to do that, you got to have like
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: a real good sense of what the organizational depth is
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: and what the value of everything you have in the
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: organization is. And I think that's the most important thing
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: All Right, well, I am going to let you go,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: my friend. It's always great talking to you. Thanks so
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: much for jumping on. Like we said, folks, we said
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: before we hit the record button, what a bizarre morning
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and afternoon here after this Eagle Super Bowl win that
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: we're still coming down from that and getting into this
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Flyers talking what's gonna be happening with this team. Rachel,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: It's always great talking with you. Thanks so much for
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: jumping on, and I'd love to talk to you again
• 19:46
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