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🙌 Liz On Court Again, Carolyn's Magic Uterus & a VERY Cranky Cath · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a DM podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We'll try to keep it as nice as we can,
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  Speaker 2: but you might hear the occasional swear word in No
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  Speaker 2: Dribble Don't tell Mom. Hello, and welcome to No Dribble,
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  Speaker 2: the podcast where we talk about netball and we talk
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  Speaker 2: about a whole lot of other things. This one is
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  Speaker 2: like a moon landing for us. Here we are in
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  Speaker 2: three parts of Australia doing the recording for the first time,
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  Speaker 2: with none of us in the same room. So who
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  Speaker 2: knows how this is going to go? Who knows whether
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  Speaker 2: the moon landing was really staged or not. No, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not be ridiculous, but let's get down to business. Hello,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Cox in Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm Liz Ellis. I'm Bungelin Country. There you go, there's.
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  Speaker 4: One for you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: I'm at home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in ex Mouth. I don't think I could
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  Speaker 2: be any further away from you guys and still be
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  Speaker 2: in the same country. I'm up near ninglu so exciting.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: When's the big adventure swimming with the whale sharks? It is?
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  Speaker 2: It is? And Manta rays and all sorts of other
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  Speaker 2: fabulous stuff. I had a massive adventure yesterday in Perth, though,
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  Speaker 2: but we will get to that shortly when we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about some netble. But how's everyone's week been good?
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  Speaker 1: And do you know the best part of my week
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  Speaker 1: was watching Elizabeth That'll just come out of retirement yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and play a firll on the game of netball in
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  Speaker 1: seventeen years. And there was even some heckling coming from
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  Speaker 1: the Swift's head coach brianiy Akle during the game. Are
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  Speaker 1: you feeling this morning, Elizabeth?
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprisingly okay. I really did expect to be very
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  Speaker 3: sore and funny, I was so scared, so I got
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  Speaker 3: called in very late for the There was a off
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  Speaker 3: court all stars match and it was really cool. It
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  Speaker 3: was some of the senior executives from Sun Call, who
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  Speaker 3: obviously the major sponsor, and they had pulled in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of women from all different fields. There was a
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  Speaker 3: woman who's truck driver, woman who runs by from the bush.
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  Speaker 3: There was some obviously some executives. Son called Jian Rooney
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  Speaker 3: former Sweem was there. Sam Squires, who's a journalist was there,
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  Speaker 3: and we basically played netball against each other in the
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  Speaker 3: lead up to the Swifts five Birds game and Stacy West,
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  Speaker 3: who's the CEO of Netball Australia, was supposed to play
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  Speaker 3: but she came down with the flute, so she stayed
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  Speaker 3: at home and she rang me on Saturday and said,
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  Speaker 3: can you please please please go out? And we had
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  Speaker 3: gone to Sydney for the weekend because it was a
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  Speaker 3: Swift's heritage round, so we were just there as sort of,
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  Speaker 3: you know a bit of a family holiday and we're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to do the bridge climb yesterday morning, but the
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  Speaker 3: weather turned pretty horrible on it, so we can it
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  Speaker 3: And I said to Stacy, can go out. But I
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  Speaker 3: said to Matthew I was seeking of doing it, and
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  Speaker 3: he was like, just don't injure yourself.
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  Speaker 4: It's really cared about.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought that was all I cared about until
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  Speaker 3: I walked over the white line and got the fever
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  Speaker 3: and you know, the whistle went and it was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my goodness. I just forgot about getting injured, and
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  Speaker 3: forgot that I was fifty one, and forgot I how
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  Speaker 3: to play netball for seventeen years, and I was great fun.
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  Speaker 3: I just had a smile on my daughter.
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  Speaker 4: The whole time. I forgot how much fun it is
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  Speaker 4: to play.
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  Speaker 2: Did you go back into captain made? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I did. Actually I ran the warm up and I
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  Speaker 3: when did the toss, I was like, oh, Greta Buena
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  Speaker 3: was our coach. She was too busy just having fun.
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  Speaker 3: It was this serious, this is back at netball.
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  Speaker 1: And I loved the halftime. I interviewed Lise and she
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  Speaker 1: was sweating like a pig, like she was blowing like.
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  Speaker 4: Like a pig.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, all the support I had on the sideline
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  Speaker 3: was great. So Briani was heckling me. She was sitting
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  Speaker 3: just near my husband and my kids who were heckling
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  Speaker 3: me all that. My little boy was like, go mom,
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  Speaker 3: go mom. Everyone's like, Mom, throw shoulder passes, which is
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  Speaker 3: exactly what I tell her every Saturday when I'm coming.
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  Speaker 3: No love. It was great fun and there was some
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  Speaker 3: super shots. Yeah, but I actually started off playing goalkeeper
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  Speaker 3: and loved it. And then Gretel, in what I found
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  Speaker 3: only think was an act of revenge, put me in
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  Speaker 3: goal shoot so I can see how hard and let
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  Speaker 3: me just say I practiced my rebounding skills a lot.
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  Speaker 1: She did. I can vouch for that. The funniest thing though,
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  Speaker 1: after the game is I was talking to Lizza's daughter
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  Speaker 1: Evelyn and said, now, what did you make of mum's game?
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  Speaker 1: What advice would you give her? Do you think? And
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  Speaker 1: she looked at me like the list is long, Catherine,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the time. I said, okay, if you
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  Speaker 1: have to prioritize one thing, what would it be? And
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  Speaker 1: she said footwork. Yeah, she slowed up a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Then no, my fitness is okay with this because I
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  Speaker 3: was playing goalkeeper and goal shooter. I mean, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: realize how much you don't move when you play goal shooter.
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  Speaker 1: I'll stop it.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have an alisbander?
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  Speaker 1: No? But I had scrunched She had a scrunchy on.
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  Speaker 1: I got a photo on social media.
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  Speaker 4: I had myigh performance hair.
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  Speaker 3: Actually Evelyn did my hair before we went out, so
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  Speaker 3: she gave me a high performance Plenty tail and I
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  Speaker 3: put a scrunch in from the Mighty Balmain Wolverines one
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  Speaker 3: of the ladies on the court that was her netball team,
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  Speaker 3: and then I switched to a swift scrutchy during in postmatch.
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  Speaker 1: Lady just on that on the high performance hair. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so distracted now by everything that we talk about. So
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the broadcast yesterday, there's a team huddle,
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  Speaker 1: We've got the cameras in it, and there's a shot
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  Speaker 1: of the back of the girl's heads sitting at the
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  Speaker 1: bench and it was Sarah Clown next to Maddie Turner
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  Speaker 1: and their ponytails were so good. I found myself with
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  Speaker 1: my phone up in the middle of the broadcasting photos
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  Speaker 1: of their hair so I could show you that's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Doppened new Katherine Cox Well, she got sacked because she
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  Speaker 3: got distracted by no Google podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So what's Heritage Round?
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  Speaker 3: So Heritage Round is when the Swifts wear yellow, they
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  Speaker 3: go back to the old yellow dress, which is what
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  Speaker 3: we wore. We wore the yellow dress for twelve years,
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  Speaker 3: but the Swifts have been wearing the red dress now
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  Speaker 3: for sixteen years. I always think of the red dresses
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  Speaker 3: really you but they've been read longer than they were yellow.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a really lovely thing and it really came
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  Speaker 3: out about with Briani Akle taking up the coaching job
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  Speaker 3: at the Swifts. She was very keen that the players
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  Speaker 3: understood where they had come from, so that they could
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  Speaker 3: know where they were going and I thought when she started,
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  Speaker 3: I was so grateful, as were all of us, that
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  Speaker 3: she was recognizing.
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  Speaker 4: What had gone before and she had been part of that.
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  Speaker 3: So yesterday was the celebration of the twentieth anniversary of
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  Speaker 3: about two thousand and four premiership. So you know, they
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  Speaker 3: got us all into a function and they had all
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  Speaker 3: the part like havend Pass players there, Katrina Wagg who
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  Speaker 3: was the first captain and player number one for the Swifts.
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  Speaker 3: She was there, Mary McCormick, Sharon Hill right through until
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  Speaker 3: you know that sort of our age group and some
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  Speaker 3: younger players.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just so goot me and your age group.
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  Speaker 4: Right through until.
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  Speaker 3: Our maturity levels. And it's great to see everybody. And
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  Speaker 3: what I love is that all our partners get there
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  Speaker 3: and they're all so excited about seeing each other. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, the back when when we were playing the boys,
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  Speaker 3: I used to go at half time before winning. They
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  Speaker 3: had the chop Wedge club, so they go up to
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  Speaker 3: the back of the stadium and buy chop wedges if
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  Speaker 3: we're winning at halftime, so it was just some little thing.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, of course they go, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: using their walking sticks. But like it's just so lovely
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  Speaker 3: to say everybody. And then I won't tell too many stories.
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  Speaker 3: But after the game we all went out to a
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  Speaker 3: pub nearby and all the kids were there, and Harper
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  Speaker 3: and my kids and Brian's kids and Ali Broadbeat's kids
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  Speaker 3: and everyone's kids were just all talking and it's so lovely.
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  Speaker 4: It's such a beautiful community.
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  Speaker 3: And we got to watch the Swifts fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It was a win win. But also on other news,
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  Speaker 1: who else has been very very clever this week? Oh yeah, Carolyn?
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  Speaker 1: Can you tell us about your fabulous book and where
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  Speaker 1: it's ended up? Please?
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  Speaker 2: Ah? Thanks? So I had a book come out last
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  Speaker 2: year orb we only want What's Best and this week
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  Speaker 2: very exciting. It's been long listed for an award which
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  Speaker 2: is about Australian women crime running. Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great read. You're so clever.
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  Speaker 1: So how do we can we vote? Can we influence?
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  Speaker 1: How do we get involved in this?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: Only the members of the Sisters in Crime Association can
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  Speaker 2: vote for the Reader's Choice Awards, So this is actually
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  Speaker 2: you know, the beauty of this is that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know the judges, they don't know me, so it's very
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  Speaker 2: nice to have the book acknowledged amongst some other really
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  Speaker 2: fabulous writers and books and the like, and it has
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  Speaker 2: to go from here to a shortlist and then from
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  Speaker 2: the shortlist to the winner. So this is nothing more
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  Speaker 2: than what it is at the moment. But it's actually
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  Speaker 2: a really lovely feeling to have the book acknowledged by
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  Speaker 2: people who don't don't even know me, who've just read it.
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  Speaker 2: When yeah, that's good and they enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: Kay, well we'll put the details on social so everybody
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  Speaker 1: can see it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great, thank you. We should read it.
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  Speaker 4: I read.
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  Speaker 3: It's a cracking read. Although I can hear your voice
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  Speaker 3: all the way through it. I feel like, Catherine, I
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  Speaker 3: should be allowed to vote because we may or may
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  Speaker 3: not have committed some petty crimes in our time.
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  Speaker 1: Where can we get the book? Speaking of petty crimes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go on stick one under my shirt.
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  Speaker 2: No, you know you're going to pay for it still
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  Speaker 2: on book Topia, or you can get it on Kindle
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: or audible, Okay, on it.
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  Speaker 3: So do you know what, Catherine, That makes you the
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  Speaker 3: only member of this podcast that has written book.
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  Speaker 4: So I would like for you to write a book please.
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  Speaker 1: That's not happening. I could do a children's book that's
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  Speaker 1: about my attentions.
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  Speaker 3: Man, but apparently children's books are really hard to write.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Did you contribute to Lizza's book? I had a story
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  Speaker 2: in Lizzer's book about when I went insane trying to
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  Speaker 2: have my second child and just was looking at all
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  Speaker 2: of the loopy advice anywhere, desperate to fall prey.
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  Speaker 1: Remind Liz people of your book and what it was about,
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: because that might sound carol story just then. Well, Liza's
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  Speaker 1: book was a cookbook, Turkey based cookbook, No.
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  Speaker 4: Oh God, the Mine.
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  Speaker 3: No. My book was called if at First you Don't conceive,
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: and it's your friendly guard to tackling infertility. So I'm
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: pretty sure you can still get at places. I think
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: just about a reading fertility clinic, or every fertility clinic
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  Speaker 3: has a copy of one. But I really did lean
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: heavily on my friends and family and network to give
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: me their or talk to me about their fertility stories.
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  Speaker 3: And I was very grateful because lots of people time
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  Speaker 3: with things that were very personal to them. And I
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  Speaker 3: had a great conversation with Carolyn about what she did
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  Speaker 3: when she was trying to fall pregnant, which was.
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  Speaker 2: I was at an event and it was a literary event,
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  Speaker 2: and I met a woman there. She has nothing to
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: do with conception. She's not a doctor. She was at
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: that stage a literary agent. And I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: we ended up talking about how I was having trouble
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: falling pregnant, and like you, Liz, it was secondary in fertility.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: So first time around it was easy, so I went, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no problem, this is going to be fine. Second time
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  Speaker 2: much more difficult. But anyway, this woman sort of looked
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: at me and then gestured down towards my pelvic region
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  Speaker 2: and said, yes, I see you need to draw some
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: energy down here. You should start hula hooping and go
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  Speaker 2: and get some red or orange underwear and that will
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  Speaker 2: draw the energy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so clearly insane. And about a week later I
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: bought myself an underplane.
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  Speaker 1: Now, seriously, did that work well?
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  Speaker 2: I have another child. No, it was quite some time afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: So no, I don't think that the hula hooping, which
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: I'm no good at anyway, but the red underpants were
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  Speaker 2: very nice and served me well for several years. But no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that that was the trick. Cool it's
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  Speaker 2: a product of the insanity that you have, isn't it
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  Speaker 2: when you're trying to go through this and your body
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  Speaker 2: is not doing what you want it to do.
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  Speaker 1: Have you still got the hula hoop? Is it hanging
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  Speaker 1: on the wall next to the family photo.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where the hula hoop's gone. At some
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  Speaker 2: stage and renovation, my husband sensibly threw it out because it.
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  Speaker 1: Was not seeing you hula hooping and your red undies
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the loungeero.
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  Speaker 2: But enough about my uterus. You guys talking then about
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: what a fabulous experience you had catching up with your
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: old teammates and the like on the weekend. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know whether you saw. Nat Medhurst has had an article
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  Speaker 2: out recently in Code Sports talking about retirement and the
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  Speaker 2: transition to a life post netball, and she surveyed a
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: bunch of former netballers about the player transition support and
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  Speaker 2: that that experience. And I just thought it would be
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  Speaker 2: really interesting to hear from you both about your decisions
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  Speaker 2: to retire and the difficulties that you face then or otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: Whether this brought up anything for.
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  Speaker 3: You, well, the hardest part of my retirement was selling
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  Speaker 3: Catherine that I was going to retire.
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  Speaker 1: So she lickered me up good and then she broke
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  Speaker 1: the news.
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  Speaker 4: That is not a lie.
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  Speaker 3: So I had made the decision at the start of
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and seven that that was going to be
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  Speaker 3: my last year, but I'd also decided that I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: going to make it public. I was just going to
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  Speaker 3: tell if you select paper on the thought, well, I
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  Speaker 3: can't keep it from my bestie.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought, I'll take.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: Catherine out to lunch and I'll break the news. It
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: was well before the season started, so we went to
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  Speaker 3: a really nice place in Sydney and by the harbor,
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  Speaker 3: and we ordered a glass of champagne and I said.
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  Speaker 4: We said cheer.
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  Speaker 2: Did you think she was going to propose kas No, no,
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  Speaker 2: this was not our first Red Hot dates.
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  Speaker 4: This was back then in the off season. So we
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  Speaker 4: did cheers.
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  Speaker 3: And there's been a lot of talk about the move
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: to A and Z Championships and Catherine said something about it,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, oh, well, actually, I just wanted to
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  Speaker 3: tell you that I'm not playing this year. I thought
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  Speaker 3: i'd have to get this out early. She goes this
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  Speaker 3: year and I was like, no, you're not, and you said.
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  Speaker 1: Yes you are. No, I'm not This went on and
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  Speaker 1: on for a very long time.
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  Speaker 3: For a very long time, so unbeknownst to me at
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  Speaker 3: the time, Catherine, who needs to go to the toilet,
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  Speaker 3: often ducked off and left a voicemail message for Matthews
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: and it was a long, mong n dog Matthew, I
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  Speaker 3: can't leave. You're letting her retire, And it was like, really,
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  Speaker 3: it was unhappy, but it was well reasoned and you
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  Speaker 3: sounded normal, right, So we go back and we keep
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  Speaker 3: going and having lunch, and anyway, the lunch lunch turned
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  Speaker 3: very long because Catherine was very well with the news
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  Speaker 3: and I wasn't coping very well breaking the news to her.
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  Speaker 3: So the first message to Matthew was at about half
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  Speaker 3: past one. The second message was about four pm and it.
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  Speaker 4: Was I can't believe.
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  Speaker 3: The last message was at about eight pm, and the
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  Speaker 3: last message was so that was in all honestly, that
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  Speaker 3: was the hardest part.
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  Speaker 4: So I knew telling Catherine was hard.
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  Speaker 3: But I approached my retirement really methodically, and I decided
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  Speaker 3: that I was going to set things up so I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't retiring in my mind from netball. I was retiring
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  Speaker 3: to heap of other different things. And I booked a
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: heap of travel, and I'd set up a few roles
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  Speaker 3: on boards and some commentary work, and it sort of
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: gave me something to look forward to. But I was
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: really fortunate in that I got to retire the way
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  Speaker 3: I wanted and we won that World Cup, and I
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: had already decided that was it.
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  Speaker 4: Whether we won or lost the World Cup.
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  Speaker 3: I'd had to go away and get very comfortable with
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: the fact that if we didn't win, was I going
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  Speaker 3: to be okay with walking away?
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know what that would have looked like.
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  Speaker 3: And then the other thing that I did was after
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  Speaker 3: I got some advice from a sports scientist about all
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  Speaker 3: physiologists about when I finished, not going cold turkey on
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  Speaker 3: my training straight away because you lose all those endorphins.
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  Speaker 3: And I trained myself down over about six months to
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: end up with what looked like the exercise program of
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  Speaker 3: a normal human.
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  Speaker 4: And so I didn't go cold turkey.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm going to say my transition into retirement
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: was very planned, and it was made easier by the
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: fact that I'd had this great fairy tale finish. But
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I read NAT's article and went, if you don't get
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: what like that fairy tyl finish. Retiring is a very
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: very different beast, and I know people from a lot
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: of other different sports sort.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Of struggle with this as well, you know.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I know, for example, people who went to the Sydney
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Olympics and were rock stars for two weeks and then
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: really struggled after that when the Olympic circus moved on
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: and they were on the spotlight. So retirement is really difficult,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: and I don't know there's a perfect way to do it,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: but I think sports can get better in how they
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: help athletes do it.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine your poor husband if you didn't win
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: that World Cup?
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Do you know what he cried at the end of
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: the World Cup? And he was sitting next to my
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: sister and she said, you must be so proud. He said, no,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: I just knew she lost. It was going to be
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: a long life together.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Truth true.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but Catherine knew had a bit of a
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: different sort of approach or experience with your retirement too,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: even though you did get a great finish.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the fairy tale as well, but I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: think because it was a little bit further after yours,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: most of the teams at that point had well being offices,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: as they were called, a well being people, and so
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I knew that my retirement was in the next three
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: or four years. It wasn't going to happen straight away,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: but I knew it was coming, and so I had
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: started discussions with our wellbeing person about, you know, what
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: my retirement might look like. What did I want to do.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: And I didn't really know what I was going to do,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: but I wanted to walk away from the sport that
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I did know. I didn't want to do anything to
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: do with the sport because that had taken up too
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: much of my life already. And I remember her just saying,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: just be smart about this time. You've got left with
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: connections and people that are around the sport and people
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that you may want to call upon when you do
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: make the decision to retire. Anyway, it was not till
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I was with the Vixens, and I distinctly remember one
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: training session. We had to finish the session with fifty
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: shots in a row before you could stop. You couldn't
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: miss a shot. You had to have a defender on you.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: So we'd already done our two hour training session. We
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: had to go to a post with a defender. I
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: got to forty seven shots on the first go, and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: then I was with Joe Weston and she hit my
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: arm and I missed the shot and I thought, that's fine,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: that's the way it is. I'll start again. And then
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I could not get it. It took me forever, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I got so frustrated when I finally did finish it. However,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: long later, I kicked the netball across two courts and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done. It was like that, It
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just was. It used to be a challenge for me,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, and he's to love it. And
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: that day I was so angry and I hated life,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm done. And I literally told Samoe
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: mckinness that week that I think I'm done at the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: end of this season. So it was pretty clear cut.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: But that was beautiful because then I just got the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: rest of the season just to chill and relax and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: enjoy playing without any stresses, and got the fairy tale
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: ending as well. So we were both very lucky because
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that doesn't happen for a lot of people. Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, other players get dropped and that's the end of.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Their career, were injured, Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Injured, and now that it's your profession as well, I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: think there's that really difficult overlay. Like if it's your
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: job and you suddenly lose your job because you've fallen
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: out of form or you're injured or whatever happens, you
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: don't get a new contract.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I think that would be so difficult.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: And Kas, what happened to you? What did you do
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: immediately after retirement?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: No, we'll see. This is the problem, isn't it? Because
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I said I didn't want to do I didn't want
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to do anything to do with netball. But as soon
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: as you announce and you say the words I'm retiring,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the sport wants to keep you because they know there's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that level of expertise. So I ended up coaching, and
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I also ended up in commentary, but only because Liz
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and Keiley DeVry, who was an ex teammate and was
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: with Channel Night at the time, forced me to. Because
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: they just kept saying, you'll be so good at it,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: You've got to do it, You'll be so good at it,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and I was just.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I think I'll be terrible. I'm so scared of all
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And yeah, thank you guys, because it's the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: best job in the world.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And who are you coaching with?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I was coaching stately one with Hills District. So I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: went back to my original club, my original association, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: did some coaching with him for the four years. But
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm good when it's game day
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: doing training sessions. Oh so hard, so hard.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Oh you're under eight. Seem to have a good time.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can play horses and jockeys for an
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: hour and they don't care.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I also don't get better if I do that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I did something very brave yesterday.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Oh what did you do?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I went into the Fires of Mordor, which is obviously
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: rac Arena with the Fever fans dressed in a Giant's
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: T shirt. It was so great. That arena is so
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: fantastic and the Fever fans everyone there is in the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: team merch and it's all the new team merch. They're
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: right behind the team. It was just it was so exciting.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: That stadium is fabulous and the Giants brought it. It
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: was great. There were maybe twenty of us in the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: stadium wearing orange and we did our bit. We were
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: allowed Giants fans, but I had such a great time
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: with the Dribblers, both online and in the stadium. So
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Jeannett O'Brien was with the Giants family and friends across
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the other side of the stadium and we had a
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: beautiful moment waving at one another. And if you jump
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: on our Facebook page you can see a lot of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: images of people taking photos of me, Katherine wearing my hat.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: You know, it was the best thing ever. Our Dribblers
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: are brilliant the amount of photos that were coming through
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: of Spotto, Caroline in the crowd. But then they were
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: also watching the telecasts. They were watching the broadcast and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: taking photos of you behind the bench when it came
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: onto the screen. So they were going to all lengths
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to capture you in your dorky hat.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: So just a little recap for those that don't know.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: If you want the whole story, jump onto last week's podcast.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: But the recap is that last week Catherine bullied Carolyne
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: into wearing not just an orange shirt at the Fever game,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: but a multicolored cat with an orange propeller on top.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: What she had to stand out and it worked.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Something that was really fabulous is that my son's friends
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: were also watching the broadcast together. I just want to
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: say hello to Tanya Orchard, who was sitting behind me,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: and I didn't get to say hello to her, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear her as we're walking past, but my
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: daughter said she thought she might have heard someone calling out.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So sorry, Tanya, I would love to have met you,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: but at that stage I was dragging my sad and
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: sorry are sound the stadium? But no, it was great.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not a Giant, this is my first time in
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a Giant's T shirt. But you know, I think if
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you go to a game where your own team isn't playing,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: you should always support the underdog. But man, they weren't
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: playing like underdogs yesterday. That was It was a really
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: exciting game right till the very last. The Fever are
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: much better at the Mexican Wave than the Swifts fans,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: so that's another thing that we can work on next year. Swifties,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you committed and probably need to be committed. Well, thank
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: you for the challenge because that now obviously allows me
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to find something that I can make you do at
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: some stage, and I'm working on that. Lizbuths, it was
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: in another exciting weekend in Netbule.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how some of the games on the weekend honestly
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: just when you think they can't get any better and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: so close to finals. So one of the first games
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: of the round was the Mavericks and the Lightning. The
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: MAVs got a win up a buy one which puts
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: them now on equal points to the Lightning, so they
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: are going to have a real crack at that fourth spot.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And then the Five Birds without Danelle wall On their
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: superstar a one point win as well over the New
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: South Wales Swifts in Sydney.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: What is going on? And next week we've got Lightning
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: v Five Birds, which I just think is going to
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: be an insanely good match, so exciting.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm doing that game that's in Brisbane. I'm
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: very excited to get up there for that one because
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: not only is it a derby, but it's going to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: be really important for both of those sides for their
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: finals chances. So it's been a brilliant round.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know who to support in the finals. I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: obviously we don't have all four locked in yet, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it's going to be tricky. I've got to find a
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: team to get behind. But then as soon as I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: get behind a team they will lose, because that's what's
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: going on with me at the moment as a Queens
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and State of Origin supporter. My husband is a Paramatta supporter.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I'm the Swift supporter. I supported the Giants yesterday. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: am the kiss of death in sport in twenty twenty four.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: So it's your.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Favorite color, Maybe work backwards. Don't think about the team
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and how are you going to destroy their chances of
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: success this season?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Do you think color is a good thing or should you? Like,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: are there sort of some Netbull qualities that you want
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to make your decision on. I'm just trying to figure
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: out how we help you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: You should go on mascots because you're all about the mascot.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I should go on mascots. Actually yeah, yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Maybe you should do Who would win a fight between
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: between the mascots?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. I'm going to I'm going to
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: take this one on notice and come back to you
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: next week because quite clearly, well I think it might
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: have to be the MAVs. If the MAVs are in,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: because it's like they weren't even a team this time
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: last year, so too, if they can get themselves into
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the finals, that is amazing.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And that unicorn would stab anybody's eyes out too, so
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it would probably win. You're right, smart, smart, smart Carolyn.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Obviously you're away this week and next week you're missing
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Swift's run home. What are you doing with the think
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's for next week?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Well, look, this is a good question because I have
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: four members tickets that are really good seats, and there's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: just not enough netball left for us to be able
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to waste good seats at a Super Netball game. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I was thinking that I might actually give them away
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to a dribbler. So it's the Swift's Thunderbirds game, which
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: is a Grand final rematch on Sunday at four o'clock
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: in Sydney. Now there's no grand prize package here, there's
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: no airfares, there's no accommodation, there's no parking voucher, there's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: not even a bottle of water that comes with these.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: But I do have these four really good seats that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I would just be thrilled to see a dribbler go to.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Whether you're supporting the Thunderbirds, whether you're supporting the Swifts,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: whether you just want to go and watch some good netball,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I don't care why don't we do something on the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Instagram on Thursday. Yep, Record Dribblers, take a look at that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what we're going to do, but we'll
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: put something up on Thursday. And if you want to
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: go and sit in my hot seats for the Swift
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Thunderbirds game this Sunday at four o'clock, jump on board
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: that on the Instagram and someone will get them, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: then someone should be sending us some photos. The classic
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: photo from that seat is if you have a can
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: of Gin and Tonic and you stand and you put
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: your back to the court and show that you have
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: your can of gin tone. But I would like to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: see your artistic interpretation of how you use.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I will say one thing. At least one of the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: four people must have a scrunchy in their hair, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that must be in the photo.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, all.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Right, yep. See, if you get the free tickets, you've
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: got to suck it up and wear a scrunchy. It's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: not worth it, is it? People? Oh, you should have
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: given Julie Fitzgerald hers. Actually, now we think about it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I should have. I did give her a shout, but
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: she didn't hear me.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: She chose not to because she saw what you were wearing.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Who's the widow in the Yeah, don't look directly at her?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Back away slowly, okay.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So Julie Fitzgerald would obviously be eligible to get a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: hand crafted no dribble scrunchy because she is a WindMan
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: with our wings winner and that's the only way to
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: get it. We have most states and territories in Australia represented.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: We do not have a representative from act NT or Tasmania.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to know whether this week's nomination covers one
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: of those states or whether we're going back to a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: state that we've already covered. Kat.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: We have got one from one.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: See how my voicement all high and excited. This is
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: from Kathy McDonald. She says, firstly, loving your podcast and
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: we love you Kathy, so that works well. My nomination
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: is for Jules Ferlin, a life member of Tigers Netball Club.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: She's played coached at Umpied for many years and is
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: an essential component of our club and has produced two
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: beautiful girls who also play coach and umpire. There you go,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you Keathy for the nomination. Darwin Tech.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So that's the Nightcliff tigers. I think I used to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: live in Darwin far not very far from night people
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: lived in Fanny Bay Jewels, which is not that far
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: from you. If you'll your plate for the night. Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I want you to know that. To get from the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: city into fanny May you drive along dick Ward Drive,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: which I think is terrific.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Wow, they have no fertility issues in that place.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: They well, Jewels, you are the wind beneath our wings.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: And thank you for everything that you do for the game.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, Kathy, I forgot who nominated Jewels.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: It was Kathy McDonald.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Thanks Kathy. Yeah, we've just finished saying we love you,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and then I forgot your name, Kathy. But please it
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: is sincere.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It's fleeting. But sincere.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Back to Catherine's love life.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Dear, there's not enough hours in the day to talk
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: about that, ladies. Let's move on.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've got to get out and see
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: part of Western Australia.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: So when do you swim with the sharks? Whale sharks?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow is swimming with whale shark Day and it's very
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: lovely sort of. When I came inside a couple of
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: hours ago and it was only nine o'clock in the morning.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: It was twenty two degrees so beautiful. I've gone and
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: touched the water in x Mouth Golf and that was
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It's a lovely temperature. So yeah, doing that, and then
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: we'll head down the head down the coast and I
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: think next week I will be recording from Durian Bay.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Has anyone been eaten by a whale shark?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I just know they're like krill suckers, so they're actually fish.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: They are the largest fish in the world, aren't they.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: They are neither whale nor shark. I don't think.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Do you know we did that whale shark swim a
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago, And I'm glad to hear that
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: the weather's good because when I had a booked, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I booked well before we left home, twelve months in advance,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: and we've got a phone call the day before saying
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: the waves were too big and they weren't going to
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: take us out, and they had no bookings for another month.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: They had nothing, So as you can imagine, I went
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: into total meltdown mode and I rang every booking operator
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: and I finally jagged just one a week later. So
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: we just stayed around for the week. But I was
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: so excited. When you go to jump in and you're
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: in the oce open ocean, right, you can't see the
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: bottom in the open land, you can't see eything. But
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I was so excited that I forgot I had children.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So I just jumped in and swam to the one shark.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: We got back on.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Board, and Matthew goes, don't worry me.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I just looked after the kids.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, what a saint. You know, if
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Matthew had long hair, we would give him a scrunchy. Actually,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: what we do need, Liz, is a photo of those
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: sock protectors, because we're going to make some.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: No dribble sock protectors.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, what can't we do? We need to think
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of other things we can turn.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Into make make scrunches.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think, is well, what we can't do?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I do wonder if the next thing we take on,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: like with masts and sewing obs, maybe we do some
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: crocheting or something.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: We do some no dribble crochet.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I'm checking out when that happens.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Just I've been knitting a marine scarf for about fifteen
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: years and I just I'm hopeless at it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: What's the hold up?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Well, part of it is my eyes now, in that
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I wear glasses for distance vision. For some reason, I'm
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: not in reading glasses. But I can't do close work
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: with my distance vision glasses on. So it's not like
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I can sit there and watch TV.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: You need buy focals, do.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine you're just sitting there with your
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: little bifocals.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm picturing bifocals, knitting needles, red underwear and a hula
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: hoop actually, and a nasty injury.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Well, on that note, I think if we will say
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: goodbye for another week. It's goodbye from Carolyn Swindle in
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: x Mouth.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Goodbye from Capcox in Sydney, Goodbye from Mizzellis in Baladin.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Dribblers, have a great week, see a legend, good luck,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: have fun. Check out Instagram on Thursday if you want
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: my tickets for the Swifts