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Chuck & Buck 4-13 Hour 2: Ryon Healy, Stocking Stuffers and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Not to hold it. Yeah, that sounds different, sounds like
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Speaker 1: a medical problem. Yeah yeah, I think I'm gonna have
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Speaker 1: to hold it like that. Looks like I'm taking a selfie.
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Speaker 1: Good morning. It is Chuck up Back in the Morning,
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M.
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Speaker 1: No Bucky Jacobson today, But Ashley and I we trudge on,
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Speaker 1: and it is our pleasure to welcome back to our
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Speaker 1: radio program, former mariner and now a weekly guest right
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Speaker 1: here on Chuck and Buck. As he was in the
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Speaker 1: playoffs this past year and he impressed us so much
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Speaker 1: we brought him back for more and more and more
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Speaker 1: of Rian Healy. Good morning, sir, Good morning, Happy Monday. Hey,
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Speaker 1: happy Monday to you as well. Somebody messed with a
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Speaker 1: lot of equipment over the weekend. It's caused a little
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Speaker 1: bit of drama around here.
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Speaker 2: Awesome.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, oh, maybe I got it balanced. It's not
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Speaker 1: locked in the camera because we're on a zoom link,
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Speaker 1: but I think maybe I got it balanced. Don't anybody move, Okay, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: don't Ryan froze even though he's not he's in another city,
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Speaker 1: in another state. I wish my kids listened that. Well.
1:43
Speaker 1: Let me just first ask, are you a golf fan?
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Speaker 1: Did you watch the Masters over the weekend at all?
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Speaker 1: I did?
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Speaker 3: I had a pretty magical Sunday. I was able to
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Speaker 3: go as a local restaurant here called Trevor's. What was
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Speaker 3: on my buddies? We were watching the M's game, had
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Speaker 3: on the iPads practicing some of my scorekeeping, and then
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Speaker 3: we were watching the Masters up on the big screen.
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Speaker 3: So I got a nice little pizza. We even had
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Speaker 3: like a puzuki, you know, the pizza, cookies, some ice cream.
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Speaker 4: Like.
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Speaker 1: I had an all time Sunday afternoon. Awesome. All right, Now,
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Speaker 1: I did notice I worked on my scorekeeping. So, as
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Speaker 1: a former player, have you ever kept score of a
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Speaker 1: game in your life? And now you're getting ready to
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Speaker 1: do some color analysts work for games, so I'm assuming
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Speaker 1: that's why you're working on your scorekeeping exactly.
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Speaker 3: So Aaron Goldsmith spoke with him initially when the Maritors
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Speaker 3: called me for the broadcasting gig, and he's like, you
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Speaker 3: ever kept score? I was like no, he goes, are
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Speaker 3: you kidding me? I was like, Goldie, I was literally
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Speaker 3: into the game. I would you want me to bring
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Speaker 3: a booklet out to first or third base with me? Like,
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Speaker 3: that's not how this works. So I did my first
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Speaker 3: ever scorekeeping game during spring training of this season and
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Speaker 3: try to get the practice down so my tension can
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Speaker 3: stay on the game, because that's what the fans we
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Speaker 3: want to hear about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Goldi, there's no other way to be
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Speaker 1: told you're a nerd than that. But I'm a scorekeeper's
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Speaker 1: good nerd. He's one of the best nerds out there.
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Speaker 1: But no, I played too when I was younger, but
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Speaker 1: I was fascinated with keeping score of baseball games, and
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Speaker 1: so I did both when I played. Now, you ended
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Speaker 1: up being a major leaguer and I ended up being
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Speaker 1: a broadcaster. So what does that tell you?
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Speaker 3: A lot of the pitchers will will keep charts and
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Speaker 3: stuff during the game, the starting pitchers that they're not
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Speaker 3: pitching that day, so they have a lot of experience
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Speaker 3: with it.
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Speaker 1: But I'm playing every day. That was my job. Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 1: Well are you any good at it yet? By the way,
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Speaker 1: you ready for your first game? I'm good.
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Speaker 3: It's at least one or two things that pop up
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Speaker 3: every game that I'm like, hey, Goldie, how do I
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Speaker 3: score this? But I'm trying not to ask that question
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Speaker 3: on air. Because I don't want to sound like a nube.
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Speaker 1: All right, So when is this debut? Do you know?
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us what's going on? This literally this week?
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Speaker 3: Oh, Friday, Friday, I find up the Seattle Thursday at
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Speaker 3: Thursday evening Friday and debuting, and then Saturday they gave
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Speaker 3: me the day off. It was nice because the National
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Speaker 3: Fox is coming in, so we get a national broadcast,
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Speaker 3: so I get to watch as a fan Saturday, and
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Speaker 3: I'm back on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well look forward to maybe I'll see
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Speaker 1: at the ballpark then this weekend. Ryan Healy is with us,
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Speaker 1: all right, So what everybody wants to believe is that
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Speaker 1: a team that got off to a terrible start, that
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Speaker 1: had huge expectations just won three consecutive games and everything
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Speaker 1: is fixed. Tell us why that might be true, that
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Speaker 1: maybe the Mariners are officially out of their early season run.
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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't look at the exact number of walks
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Speaker 3: that we accrued or that they accrued throughout the course
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Speaker 3: of this series, but I felt like it forced them
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Speaker 3: to be way more patient. Obviously, the starting pitcher on
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Speaker 3: Friday wasn't able to find the strike zone, So there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of patience. We never delivered that big blow
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Speaker 3: in those moments when we had the free passes, but
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Speaker 3: the bats looked a lot more patient. Also, I'm seeing
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Speaker 3: the top the meat of our order five barrels. You're
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Speaker 3: watching Naylor, you're watching Julio, you're watching cal starting to
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Speaker 3: get on the barrel a little bit, and they look
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Speaker 3: like themselves. And the bottom of the order has been
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Speaker 3: very consistent. They've been anchors for us. And also it's
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Speaker 3: been nice to see JP Crawford slipped into the leadoff
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Speaker 3: spot to fill in for Donovan. He's done a tremendous
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Speaker 3: job there, had the walk off hit on Saturday. You're
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Speaker 3: seeing more professional bats, But I do believe the free
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Speaker 3: passes are helping and it's going to give some confidence
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Speaker 3: to these guys on a regular basis they can take.
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Speaker 1: We didn't chat with you last week on the show,
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Speaker 1: so we didn't really get you in the throes of
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Speaker 1: Mariner fan panic that was taking place here last week
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Speaker 1: here in Seattle. But from a player's perspective, you get
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Speaker 1: off to a four and nine start when you do
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Speaker 1: have as a team your highest expectations you've ever had,
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Speaker 1: how does that affect the locker room. What is done
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes to make sure that it's just a
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Speaker 1: blip and it doesn't turn into anything that we should
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Speaker 1: worry about.
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Speaker 3: Betteran players don't panic until about one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 3: bats in. It doesn't mean they're not frustrated, it doesn't
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Speaker 3: mean they're not dissatisfied with their performance, but they're not
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Speaker 3: panicking until about one hundred and fifty of bats in.
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Speaker 3: And I went back and looked at a lot of
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Speaker 3: numbers of a guy like Josh Naylor, a guy like Julio,
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Speaker 3: a guy like cal to see what they're when their
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Speaker 3: numbers start to turn. Traditionally season it's about that one
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Speaker 3: to fifty mark, so it's about six weeks in season.
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Speaker 1: It takes a while to get your timing down. The
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Speaker 1: pictures are really good.
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Speaker 3: They ran into a buzz saw of a pitching rotator
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Speaker 3: or a starting rotation in Texas, like the Rangers' pitching staff.
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Speaker 3: That's real. I felt like they could have had better
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Speaker 3: at bats in Anaheim. But also they had Joe Odell
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Speaker 3: who decided to have mister Incredible's arm and steel everything
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Speaker 3: that was trying to be go or dry over over
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Speaker 3: the fence, So what are you gonna do there? But
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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty bats in is when I panic.
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Speaker 3: What I saw, though, Chucky, is a lot of breath,
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Speaker 3: like fresh breadth of they or like just releasing the tension.
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Speaker 3: How many times did you see a player get a
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Speaker 3: single or double this weekend look at the out and
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Speaker 3: kind of shake their hand like, hey, get that ball
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Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, you can tell they're starting to loosen
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Speaker 3: up a little bit. So, yes, Dave were pressing because
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Speaker 3: who doesn't they know the fan base has high expectations
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Speaker 3: for them, and they have high expectations for themselves. But
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Speaker 3: now you're starting to see a click a little bit.
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Speaker 3: They're out allowed to get the monkey off their back,
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Speaker 3: and then I think you'll perform and just be consistent.
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Speaker 3: And the players, we all knew they.
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Speaker 1: Are speaking of the breath taking that just oh that breath.
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Speaker 1: The Arose Arena home run on Friday night felt to
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Speaker 1: me triggering, like they needed that in the moment. It
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Speaker 1: even crossed my mind when he came to the plate,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, we could really use a home run
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Speaker 1: like right now, and you got it, and it just
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Speaker 1: felt like the entire team relaxed after that. Am I
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Speaker 1: exaggerating that?
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Speaker 3: No, And I think if you saw the way that
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Speaker 3: Randy stood in the batter's box after he hit that ball,
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Speaker 3: you're you're narrating it perfectly. It wasn't that he was
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Speaker 3: pimping the home run to distracted team. It was more so, Wow,
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Speaker 3: I just connected with the ball perfect, perfect, and it's
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Speaker 3: going to be a two run home run in a
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Speaker 3: really big spot. I'm gonna enjoy this because we haven't
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Speaker 3: had many of those. They haven't had many of those,
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Speaker 3: So for me, it's it's that was a great moment.
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Speaker 3: I thought the col home run that he hit in
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Speaker 3: the first off of the Collers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little technical something happened there. I think you're
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Speaker 1: all right? Maybe not, Maybe I just lost Ryan completely there. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get him back up here. In
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Speaker 1: a second. I see him scrambling, but we cannot hear
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Speaker 1: him anymore, So we'll get that corrected. Ryan Heally is
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Speaker 1: with us right here on Chuck and Buck in the
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Speaker 1: Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r FM. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the Randy of Rose Arena Homer felt like a turning
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Speaker 1: of a page of some sorts for me, and sure enough,
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Speaker 1: the team did put together. I mean they were aided
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Speaker 1: by the Houston Astros pitching staff being so beat up
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Speaker 1: and beleaguered right now, no question about that. The walks
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Speaker 1: that were given, But even that as representative of feeling
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Speaker 1: more comfortable in the batter's box, being able to take
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Speaker 1: I mean, oh we got him back. Yeah, just even
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Speaker 1: that is it's representative of relaxing a little bit. It's
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Speaker 1: not like the Astros pitchers were missing by a mile.
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Speaker 1: I mean they were. They were taking a lot of
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Speaker 1: good pitches and felt like they were in command of
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Speaker 1: the strike zone as hitters.
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Speaker 3: The broadcast set up perfectly. It was dead by a
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Speaker 3: thousand cuts the patients. How many RBI walks did we
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Speaker 3: see this week where they were able to kind of
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Speaker 3: just in a tough count, a three, one, three to
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Speaker 3: two count where normally you would see a hit or
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Speaker 3: be overly aggressive expand the strike zone did a great
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Speaker 3: job of just taking that borderline pitch to keep the
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Speaker 3: line moving. And I think I heard JP Crawford say
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Speaker 3: this after the game. Just passed the baton, just get
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Speaker 3: the next guy up and give him the opportunity to
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Speaker 3: deliver the blow. Whoever it's going to be it doesn't matter,
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Speaker 3: but if we can keep the line moving, we're putting
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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on on the opposing pitching staff.
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Speaker 3: And they did a great job of getting to that
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Speaker 3: bullpeny Game one and just exhausting them. They had to
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Speaker 3: make some roster moves me and the astros during the
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Speaker 3: weekend to get some fresh arms out there, and I
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Speaker 3: thought they did a tremendous job about.
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Speaker 1: This is a couple of things. One that we bandied
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Speaker 1: about on the air without Bucky who's been gone for
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and then another one that just
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Speaker 1: kind of struck me over the weekend. And I haven't
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Speaker 1: asked anybody this question, and only a former professional baseball
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Speaker 1: player hitter could I think answer these two questions. Number one,
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Speaker 1: do you believe the WBC had kind of any negative
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Speaker 1: impact on the slow start offensively for this team? Because
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Speaker 1: it feels like the guys that have struggled the most
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Speaker 1: were the ones that were in the WBC. Is there
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Speaker 1: some validity to that? And then number two, we're in
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Speaker 1: a new world with challenging pitches. Do you think that's
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Speaker 1: gotten in the heads of players at all that they're
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Speaker 1: thinking more about win or win, not to challenge, and
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Speaker 1: maybe after years of never having an ABS challenge system,
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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they have one, and maybe
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Speaker 1: that's entered into the mind and taken away from the
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Speaker 1: focus a little bit. Do you think there's any validity
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Speaker 1: to either of those theories.
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Speaker 3: The great part about media in general, Chuck, is especially
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Speaker 3: in the big leagues, like being on this side, we
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Speaker 3: can have opinions on everything, and we can decide what
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Speaker 3: might be valid or not valid. The truth is is
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Speaker 3: the players are not admitting that the WBC affected them
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Speaker 3: in a negative way. The truth is is they were
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Speaker 3: still getting a back, still getting reps. It wasn't their
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Speaker 3: traditional flow that they would get in spring training, but
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Speaker 3: I know that they were still ready. And the truth
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Speaker 3: is is that pitchers are always ahead of hitters when
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Speaker 3: season starts. They can build up at a different pace.
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Speaker 3: They're able to stretch out their pitches, and obviously they
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Speaker 3: have labs where they can create these pitches as well,
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Speaker 3: meaning the starting pitchers and relievers.
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Speaker 1: I believe that.
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Speaker 3: The pitching is just so good at the major leagues
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Speaker 3: that when you struck individually, it can be contagious. And
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Speaker 3: you can agree or disagree with this, but I feel
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Speaker 3: like the struggles have been contagious through the Mariner's lineup,
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Speaker 3: apart from a couple of guys at the bottom that
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Speaker 3: have been really contained, like really just discipline and executing
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Speaker 3: at a consistent level. But they'll have their stretches when
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Speaker 3: they struggle as well. The WBC is clearly providing some
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Speaker 3: struggle for these players. There's not analytics or numbers or
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Speaker 3: facts to prove it outside of what we're seeing in
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Speaker 3: the regular season. I haven't looked at other teams to
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Speaker 3: see what those players are doing WC or are they
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Speaker 3: struggling or it's just an isolated Mariners incident. But there's
12:38
Speaker 3: been a lot of different reasons. Like you saw the
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Speaker 3: bat speed. All of a sudden, the Mariner's bat speed
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Speaker 3: is down, and they're trying to just touch the ball
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Speaker 3: and put in play as opposed to doing damage.
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Speaker 1: That's not real. It's really cold in Seattle.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to get your your best swing off when
12:51
Speaker 3: it's forty degrees opening week. I don't think this is
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Speaker 3: going to determine or sway the players away from joining
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Speaker 3: the WC in the few just because they're struggling right now.
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Speaker 3: This will just be a blip. Of the radar of
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Speaker 3: the one hundred and sixty two game season that they overcome,
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Speaker 3: and it will be just a part of the university
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Speaker 3: that baseball provides.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Heay is with his former Mariner and he's going
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Speaker 1: to be a color analysts. First TV game coming up
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Speaker 1: this Friday, so you're gonna want to check that out
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Speaker 1: for sure. We're going to be hearing and seeing a
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Speaker 1: lot more of Brian Healey and our Mariner futures here.
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Speaker 1: You played third base, you played first base, so you
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Speaker 1: know what it's like to make that throw across the diamond,
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Speaker 1: and you know what it's like to try to gather
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Speaker 1: in an errant throw. There were a couple throws by
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Speaker 1: Donovan that led Josh Naylor right into the baseline yesterday,
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Speaker 1: and if not for the Astros' kindness to slow up
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Speaker 1: and not run through it, we might be talking about
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Speaker 1: a first base more with a broken arm right now.
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Speaker 1: I brought it up earlier in the show. I think
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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Donovan's obviously struggling a little bit
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Speaker 1: with that throw across the diamond. How important is it
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Speaker 1: for Perry Hill, Brendon Donovan to get this thing fixed
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Speaker 1: just for the safety of Josh Naylor over there at
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Speaker 1: first base.
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Speaker 3: Can I put some accountability on Josh Naylor as well,
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Speaker 3: being a former first baseman. I saw both of those plays,
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Speaker 3: and then there might have been a few more, but
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Speaker 3: there was one in particular where the base runner stopped entirely,
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Speaker 3: and thank goodness for it, because those collisions are really scary.
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Speaker 3: In the first space side. You have to get in
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Speaker 3: foul territory across the base to get yourself out of
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Speaker 3: harm's way, especially on that play, and it's gonna give
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Speaker 3: you more length as a first baseman to actually save
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Speaker 3: some of those air and throws.
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Speaker 1: But there are four plus.
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Speaker 3: Sides at that base that you can utilize as a
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Speaker 3: first baseman to get yourself out of harm's way, and
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Speaker 3: then you kind of hope the runner is going to
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Speaker 3: go to a different part of the base, Chuckie. They've
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Speaker 3: also talked about putting the second bag at first base,
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Speaker 3: and I think that'll happen in the future to remove
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Speaker 3: some of that collision that could happen. I know that
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Speaker 3: Donovan is already working with Perry, and I know that
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Speaker 3: they are working tirelessly, and when I go up there
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Speaker 3: this weekend, I'm sure I'm going to see a ton
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Speaker 3: of early work that throw in That angle that a
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Speaker 3: third basement is making to first base is different than
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Speaker 3: anything else on the field. And traditionally, a right handed
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Speaker 3: thrower is going to have run on the baseball, which
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Speaker 3: means going to run up the first baseline and kind
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Speaker 3: of create that collision.
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Speaker 1: It's really hard for a right handed picture as well.
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Speaker 3: If you have a heavy sinker, you have to know
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Speaker 3: where to start that ball to be able to have
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Speaker 3: it land back in the spot, meaning the first basement's chest.
15:27
Speaker 3: Kyle Seeger was an artist, a magician at this. He
15:30
Speaker 3: would start that baseball up and off of my right
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Speaker 3: shoulder and have it fall right back down to my chest.
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Speaker 3: It takes a lot of touch in reps to get there.
15:38
Speaker 3: Brandon Thonnovan's a gold glove infielder, a utility infielder that
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Speaker 3: can play all over the field. He's now playing a
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Speaker 3: brand new position every single game and he's getting exposed
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Speaker 3: a little bit good. That's what baseball does. It's providing challenge.
15:51
Speaker 3: It's telling him what he needs to work on a
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Speaker 3: little bit, and let's see how your responds and makes adjustments.
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Speaker 3: But it's not affecting the team enough, because if the
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Speaker 3: bats do what they're supposed to do, they can pick
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Speaker 3: up some of those mistakes that defenders are going to make,
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Speaker 3: whether it's Donovan or someone else.
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Speaker 1: Talk about a bat, cal Raley, obviously, you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of turning into the face of the franchise. We've seen
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Speaker 1: a little bit coming out of it, but then he
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Speaker 1: slunk back into a rough day at the plate yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Does he look close to you, because obviously we're all
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Speaker 1: waiting on it, we all root for it. Same thing
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Speaker 1: with Julio. Do they look like they're right there? Naylor,
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Speaker 1: Rodriguez and Cal to turning this thing around in the
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Speaker 1: next couple days.
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Speaker 3: Julio all of a sudden looks the closest the home
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Speaker 3: run that he hit, and then also some of the misses.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday he had about four or five barrels the hard
16:41
Speaker 3: hit ground balls on the pole side or a good
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Speaker 3: thing for me right now because at least we're getting
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Speaker 3: on the barrel. I don't like how many bats I'm
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Speaker 3: seeing broken from Cal. Like there was a bat that
16:51
Speaker 3: broke the sackfly hit the left field. I believe it
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Speaker 3: was on Saturday. The bat broke clean in half. Normally
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Speaker 3: it'll fracture and they'll be like two longer p that
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Speaker 3: if I had a bat, it could show you be easier.
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Speaker 3: But it literally broke it clean in half. I'm wondering
17:05
Speaker 3: he's got to call the back company. Maybe it's their fault.
17:08
Speaker 3: Not the point blame elswhere. But as a hitter, Mickey
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Speaker 3: Mantle was the one that said, He's like, it wasn't
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Speaker 3: my fault, so I had to change the bat or
17:14
Speaker 3: change my batting gloves whatever. I see a lot of
17:17
Speaker 3: bats break right now for cal I also saw a
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Speaker 3: breaking ball that he hit for a homer. That's he
17:21
Speaker 3: rode home on the first that he was perfectly on
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Speaker 3: time for. He's still battling timing on the fastballs, like
17:27
Speaker 3: he's still getting beat with veloci at the top of
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Speaker 3: the zone. He's shown glimpses of being able to catch
17:32
Speaker 3: up to it, and that Jacob de Grom home run
17:34
Speaker 3: that he hit in Texas last week was a great
17:38
Speaker 3: showcase of he's starting to get his timing down. But
17:41
Speaker 3: that was a long at that it was a ten
17:42
Speaker 3: plus pitch of bat. It's taking him time to get there.
17:45
Speaker 3: He's going to figure out when he needs to start
17:47
Speaker 3: to get that cue and then how to roll that
17:49
Speaker 3: through consistently. I'm gonna watch a lot of highlights from
17:51
Speaker 3: him from last year this week and compare and contrast
17:53
Speaker 3: some of the timing that I'm seeing. I'd said jay
17:57
Speaker 3: Rod looked really good. You asked about Naylor's Well, Naylor
18:00
Speaker 3: is getting close. He had the home run rob than Anaheim,
18:04
Speaker 3: which was really tough. He had another ball that he
18:06
Speaker 3: flew out to the right center field, kind of that
18:08
Speaker 3: it's kind of like no man's land out there at
18:10
Speaker 3: T Mobile.
18:11
Speaker 1: He flew out there. I thought that was a homer.
18:13
Speaker 3: I'd like to see him on the barrel more consistently,
18:15
Speaker 3: but I feel like he's still overly aggressive, trying to
18:18
Speaker 3: hit his way out of the slump, whereas I'd like
18:21
Speaker 3: to see him be a little bit more patient. But
18:24
Speaker 3: I'll have a chance to talk with him and I
18:25
Speaker 3: get up there and see what he's working on. But
18:27
Speaker 3: it's nice to see a couple of those guys, Julio
18:29
Speaker 3: in particular, looking more like himself. Kyl's coming and I
18:32
Speaker 3: know Nay a little quick, but I said that one
18:33
Speaker 3: fifty markers when we're gonna start creating judgment right right.
18:36
Speaker 1: Right, uh, solve this upcoming pitching dilemma for us. I mean,
18:41
Speaker 1: Luis Castillo struggling a little bit his last couple of starts,
18:44
Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock couldn't look better out of the gates, and
18:47
Speaker 1: Bryce Miller is going to be off the il sooner
18:49
Speaker 1: than later. What do you what do you do with this?
18:53
Speaker 1: How do you set your rotation? It'd be tough for
18:55
Speaker 1: me to punish Emerson Hancock with a trip to Tacoma.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I don't think that's the punishment.
19:04
Speaker 3: I think someone gets slid to the bullpen. Who in
19:08
Speaker 3: what role when?
19:09
Speaker 1: I don't know.
19:10
Speaker 3: I'll find out more when I get up there this
19:12
Speaker 3: weekend to hear what the thought process is behind the
19:15
Speaker 3: front office of how they want to attack this. But
19:17
Speaker 3: this is a good problem to have. I don't I
19:19
Speaker 3: don't want any of the pitches of struggle. I don't
19:21
Speaker 3: want to see Castillo struggle. But I also do love
19:24
Speaker 3: seeing Hancock you look human for a couple of innings
19:26
Speaker 3: there in his last start, and then really settled down.
19:28
Speaker 3: That was a positive sign for the Mariners to see.
19:31
Speaker 3: This is a good problem to have, Juckie, and let's
19:33
Speaker 3: let's treat it as such of we have a surplus
19:36
Speaker 3: of quality starting pitching and we're gonna need that, and
19:39
Speaker 3: they're gonna need that to be able to get where
19:40
Speaker 3: they want to go.
19:41
Speaker 1: You feel in a four game sweep, why.
19:44
Speaker 3: Not let's go out there and let's let's set the
19:46
Speaker 3: tone because we've got slupt in Texas, So let's return
19:49
Speaker 3: the favor to their their southern friend and continue rolling.
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Speaker 1: All right, man, Well, great stuff as always, Thank you
19:55
Speaker 1: very much, sir. I appreciate you. I'll maybe see you
19:58
Speaker 1: this weekend and h if we don't talk to it
20:01
Speaker 1: between now and Friday, can't wait to hear your debut.
20:04
Speaker 1: So best of luck. And and I don't know, are
20:06
Speaker 1: you a fill in the fill in the diamond guy
20:09
Speaker 1: or do you just make a complete tour around the
20:13
Speaker 1: bases with your pen? Are you using like the laptop
20:16
Speaker 1: computer like Goldie uses? How are you?
20:19
Speaker 3: How are you taking computer first? I'm not there. Oh
20:23
Speaker 3: you got yourself a score banks, I got my score
20:25
Speaker 3: book here. I don't think I think I wrote home run.
20:29
Speaker 3: In the examples that I have, I didn't fill it in.
20:31
Speaker 3: Oh you don't fill it in.
20:33
Speaker 1: I have to know. I feel I.
20:34
Speaker 3: Haven't everyone's so unique with how they do it, how
20:37
Speaker 3: they how they score keep it's so interesting. My biggest
20:41
Speaker 3: challenge is when I write the names in the lineup,
20:43
Speaker 3: make sure I put them in the right slots. Definitely
20:46
Speaker 3: made some mistakes early on. It can speed up on you.
20:50
Speaker 3: But yeah, whatever the simplest version is, I'm doing well.
20:52
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this though, the mess here it gets,
20:54
Speaker 1: the more fun it is to keep score it really is. Yeah,
21:00
Speaker 1: and you're crossing off guys off the bench. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
21:03
Speaker 1: all right, you'll streak training with fun. You'll get there.
21:05
Speaker 1: You'll get there. I trust you. I have faith, all right, man,
21:08
Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate you, thank you. All right, Ryan Heally
21:12
Speaker 1: joining us right here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings.
21:15
Speaker 1: So yeah, a great breakdown of a lot of different things.
21:19
Speaker 1: And how about this, how about this Ashley, Ryan Heey's
21:22
Speaker 1: taking it upon himself to start calling me chucky and
21:25
Speaker 1: two people in my entire life that have done that.
21:27
Speaker 1: And Ryan just took the initiative like.
21:29
Speaker 5: I'm going to be the second what We're going to
21:30
Speaker 5: be best friends and this is what's gonna happen.
21:33
Speaker 1: He just shrugged, all right, stocking stuffers next Sports Radio
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Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ RFM.
21:39
Speaker 5: Oh, well, Bucky and Chuck. And since Bucky's not here
21:42
Speaker 5: there again, I was like, no, we're going with it.
21:44
Speaker 2: And I did it.
21:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he did it once the last time
21:46
Speaker 1: we had a conversation with him, But now this time
21:48
Speaker 1: it was like every time he referred to me, it
21:50
Speaker 1: was as Chucky. So I don't know really what happened there.
21:54
Speaker 2: How do you feel about it?
21:56
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's bold on his part to I
22:00
Speaker 1: think there's only one other person that has ever done
22:03
Speaker 1: that for me, and who's that? And that was Mike Rathgibb,
22:07
Speaker 1: a guy that I played in high school basketball with,
22:10
Speaker 1: and he called me Chucky. He was two years older
22:12
Speaker 1: than me. All right, handsome, my gosh, yeah, gotta be
22:15
Speaker 1: one of the most handsome high school kids ever. Okay,
22:19
Speaker 1: but yeah, he he was kind of my big brother. Uh,
22:23
Speaker 1: and he called me chucky for some reason. And he's
22:26
Speaker 1: the only person that ever got away with it. The
22:28
Speaker 1: rest of him I've murdered.
22:31
Speaker 2: I hope you don't murder.
22:32
Speaker 5: He was.
22:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to. I like him, but you know, oh,
22:37
Speaker 1: I don't know.
22:38
Speaker 2: You gotta get used to it.
22:39
Speaker 5: I guess so, well, the one thing we don't want
22:40
Speaker 5: him to do is now not call you Chucky. Then
22:42
Speaker 5: then the next time he doesn't, then the next time
22:44
Speaker 5: he does. Right, so we just got to go to it.
22:46
Speaker 1: I like, what did I do? Why did I lose
22:48
Speaker 1: my Chucky peal?
22:49
Speaker 2: Why am I not Chucky anymore?
22:50
Speaker 1: Yeah? I thought we were getting close? All right, Well,
22:54
Speaker 1: let's get to It's almost Draftmas season. We're eleven days
22:57
Speaker 1: away from the draft. He'll be next Thursday, and of
23:00
Speaker 1: course part of our Draftmas celebration the stocking stuffers, rumors,
23:04
Speaker 1: and we got a lot to chew on from over
23:06
Speaker 1: the weekend. Let's start with something that's more than a rumor.
23:09
Speaker 1: The Reuben Bain junior story out there, the Miami defensive
23:13
Speaker 1: end who could be a top ten pick in the
23:16
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. He was involved in an incident where there
23:21
Speaker 1: was a fatality, and even though he wasn't at fault,
23:26
Speaker 1: he's still being the story has come up. Yes, and
23:31
Speaker 1: unlike the situation with Carter from a couple of years ago,
23:37
Speaker 1: why am I spacing on his first name DeAndre Carter
23:40
Speaker 1: jal Jalen Carter right?
23:42
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound right to me?
23:43
Speaker 1: No, I think you're right, Jalen Carter. That's right from
23:47
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles a couple of years ago, where he
23:49
Speaker 1: was actually I mean, I mean he was racing for
23:54
Speaker 1: goodness sake and something, and was very dismissive about it
23:59
Speaker 1: during the draft process, like, didn't know why it was
24:02
Speaker 1: coming up, didn't know why I needed to be asked
24:04
Speaker 1: about it, and all that sort of thing, and did
24:06
Speaker 1: not make a very good impression. I think it's the
24:08
Speaker 1: reason why he fell in the draft was because people
24:11
Speaker 1: were like, I don't know what to make of this guy.
24:13
Speaker 1: He's not taking this seriously at all. Bain has been
24:17
Speaker 1: a lot different, like a one to eighty from that,
24:20
Speaker 1: He's talked about it openly. He's explained his role in
24:23
Speaker 1: all of that. He's explained his side of things, and
24:28
Speaker 1: obviously expressed some sympathy for the person that lost their lives.
24:33
Speaker 1: So from what I'm reading, and obviously the loss of
24:37
Speaker 1: a life is the bigger situation here, but we are
24:42
Speaker 1: talking about the draft. From what I'm reading that all
24:45
Speaker 1: organizations seem very satisfied with Bain's explanation and that it
24:50
Speaker 1: should not hurt his draft status. Come next Thursday, we'll see.
24:54
Speaker 1: I mean, he will be drafted in the first round.
24:56
Speaker 1: I think he was sliding a little bit in because
25:01
Speaker 1: but more because of short arms than because he was
25:05
Speaker 1: involved in a traffic accident that cost someone their lives.
25:09
Speaker 1: But I think he was probably a question mark to
25:14
Speaker 1: go top ten anyway. But we'll see how far he
25:17
Speaker 1: might he might slip down in the process. But from
25:20
Speaker 1: everything I've read, and I've read numerous articles about it,
25:24
Speaker 1: most NFL organizations are at least satisfied with the way
25:28
Speaker 1: he answered the questions as opposed to Carter.
25:30
Speaker 5: Well, and that's good, especially in a situation where he
25:32
Speaker 5: wasn't found to have been, you know, at fault for
25:35
Speaker 5: the situation and it was just an accident and accidents happened,
25:39
Speaker 5: and he he hasn't dodged it. He's not trying to
25:42
Speaker 5: pretend that he wasn't. You know, it wasn't a big
25:44
Speaker 5: deal any of the things. Yeah, that was the problem
25:47
Speaker 5: with Carter's he Jalen Carter, Yeah, Okay, that was right,
25:50
Speaker 5: Probably still sounding right, sound right to me. But that
25:53
Speaker 5: was the problem is that he fled the scene after
25:56
Speaker 5: racing and then acted, yeah, as you said, acted like
25:59
Speaker 5: he didn't want to have any responsibility for it, and
26:02
Speaker 5: I just felt like that was wrong.
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Speaker 1: You, at least as a human being, no matter if
26:05
Speaker 1: you are at no fault whatsoever, still have to have
26:08
Speaker 1: a remorse for the loss of a human life. Absolutely,
26:11
Speaker 1: and Carter wasn't expressing any of that, and it scared
26:14
Speaker 1: off a lot of organizations, including the Seahawks, I think. Yeah.
26:18
Speaker 1: But and even now in Philadelphia they were trying to
26:21
Speaker 1: trade him this and it sounds like so there's still,
26:24
Speaker 1: I don't know, still something about him that doesn't sit
26:27
Speaker 1: well with everybody. Meanwhile, Bain's got a pretty good reputation
26:33
Speaker 1: as a character player as well as a very good
26:35
Speaker 1: football players. Yeah, yeah, he does have a very terrifying
26:39
Speaker 1: last name. All right, what else we got? Daniel Jeremiah
26:43
Speaker 1: is floating out a trade in his latest mock draft
26:47
Speaker 1: that Jets fans woke up to, and I don't know,
26:51
Speaker 1: it kind of rattled them this morning. And the thing
26:53
Speaker 1: is that we are to that part in the draft
26:56
Speaker 1: process where the draft experts are no longer just lean
27:00
Speaker 1: on their analysis. The draft experts are now getting locked
27:04
Speaker 1: into what they're hearing from people around the league, some
27:10
Speaker 1: sources I'm sure that are very deep within the War
27:14
Speaker 1: room conversation. Daniel Jeremiah is a former executive himself with
27:19
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens in the National Football So he's got
27:21
Speaker 1: connections out there. So when he floats out a trade,
27:24
Speaker 1: people wonder does he know something. Well, that's what this
27:28
Speaker 1: stocking stuffers is all about. He has the New York
27:32
Speaker 1: Jets moving up from sixteen. They have the two pick,
27:36
Speaker 1: and they have the sixteen pick. He has them moving
27:38
Speaker 1: up from sixteen and getting up a second rounder and
27:41
Speaker 1: a pick next year too, number seven for the Commander's pick.
27:45
Speaker 1: As the Commanders are looking to stockpile. I mean, they
27:48
Speaker 1: turned into the oldest team overnight that we've ever seen,
27:51
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders last year, and so they might be
27:54
Speaker 1: looking for extra picks. That's a big rumor out there.
27:58
Speaker 1: And maybe the Jets are the team that wants to
28:00
Speaker 1: move up. And then he has them taking Carnel Tait
28:03
Speaker 1: at number seven overall, and so something to chew on, certainly,
28:08
Speaker 1: because that would be fascinating. And we need a trade,
28:10
Speaker 1: We need a big trade, We need something to spite
28:12
Speaker 1: this process up.
28:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get it going.
28:14
Speaker 1: Yeah time now, A trade like that's not gonna happen
28:17
Speaker 1: till Draft day.
28:17
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, if they got the rumblings to start.
28:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they've got Carnel Tait in mine, then they're gonna,
28:22
Speaker 1: you know, they're going They're gonna wait until he's on
28:25
Speaker 1: the board, he's still there, Yeah, before they give up
28:27
Speaker 1: anything to get him. Uh. Now there might be a
28:30
Speaker 1: better chance that that number three pick gets moved. Uh.
28:33
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals have it right now. Those rumors are
28:36
Speaker 1: not going away that Dallas might be interested in moving
28:40
Speaker 1: up to number three. And if Dallas loves Bailey and
28:44
Speaker 1: rvl Reese equally to try to satisfy what they lost
28:48
Speaker 1: in trading away Micah Parsons, then maybe that trade could
28:52
Speaker 1: happen this week. Maybe that could happen before the draft.
28:57
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't need to know who's on the board
28:59
Speaker 1: because they know they're going to get at least one
29:01
Speaker 1: of those two guys. Now there's another name out there.
29:05
Speaker 1: And this is a rumor I started for stocking stuffers,
29:08
Speaker 1: And now we're starting to hear some rumblings that it
29:11
Speaker 1: might actually be true that Jeremiah Love. Rhet Lewis told
29:15
Speaker 1: us this last week on NFL Network. And if Rhet
29:18
Speaker 1: Lewis knows anything, it's he gets to talk to all
29:21
Speaker 1: the people that are plugged in. He shared with us,
29:25
Speaker 1: when was it Friday or Thursday? Thursday? Because I wasn't
29:28
Speaker 1: here on Friday. I was wooing, said doctors.
29:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were showing the best partner.
29:33
Speaker 1: Right with us, my sparkling stuff. But Rhet Lewis said
29:39
Speaker 1: that he'd also heard that maybe Jeremiah Love is in
29:43
Speaker 1: play at number three, either to the Arizona Cardinals or
29:48
Speaker 1: a team that might be moving up to get Jeremiah Love.
29:51
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns have come up in a rumor today
29:53
Speaker 1: looking to move up from number six. That would be
29:56
Speaker 1: such a Browns thing to do. They're another team Arizona
30:01
Speaker 1: that they really are attracted to the sizzle. Now, don't
30:03
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I think there's phenomenal substance with Jeremiah Love.
30:07
Speaker 1: But it's a lot more sizzling of a move if
30:10
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns moved up from six, even though they
30:12
Speaker 1: have Quinn Shawn Judkins, who looks like he's gonna be
30:15
Speaker 1: really good, they move up from six to three and
30:17
Speaker 1: take Jeremiah Love. That's a lot more sizzly than sitting
30:22
Speaker 1: at six and taking a left tackle out of Georgia, right,
30:27
Speaker 1: it just doesn't. I mean, it's just the bottom line.
30:29
Speaker 1: And I think the Browns are a team that makes that.
30:32
Speaker 2: I won't.
30:34
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it a mistake because they've done it
30:36
Speaker 1: so many times in the past that it's always been
30:38
Speaker 1: a mistake. You know that Johnny Manzel's crap that they do.
30:43
Speaker 1: And so even though I think Jeremiah Love is amazing
30:45
Speaker 1: and I think he's worth actually moving up for to
30:49
Speaker 1: get it sounds like something Cleveland would do. It also
30:54
Speaker 1: sounds like something that Arizona would do that would shock
30:56
Speaker 1: the entire draft world is to take Love at number three.
31:00
Speaker 1: A Notre Dame coach just came out this week and said,
31:03
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Loves not only the best running back in this draft,
31:06
Speaker 1: he might be the best receiver in this draft, meaning
31:09
Speaker 1: he could move to receiver and be just as highly
31:11
Speaker 1: thought of. Think about today's NFL and the way that
31:15
Speaker 1: Vjon Robinson has used and before that, Christian McCaffrey, even
31:19
Speaker 1: to a more exaggerated extent. I mean, to be able
31:23
Speaker 1: to use a guy on all three downs that might
31:25
Speaker 1: be just as dangerous as a pass catcher as he
31:28
Speaker 1: is as a running back. That's worth a third pick
31:31
Speaker 1: to me, absolutely, and I am a running backs or
31:34
Speaker 1: a dime a dozen kind of guy. But I also,
31:38
Speaker 1: and I've said this for years, that there are guys
31:41
Speaker 1: that you make an exception for. Barkley was one, Adrian
31:45
Speaker 1: Peterson was one. I think this guy is one. I
31:48
Speaker 1: think he's one. I thought Ezekiel Elliott was one. He
31:51
Speaker 1: didn't quite turn out as good as those other two,
31:53
Speaker 1: but I thought at the time that he was worth
31:56
Speaker 1: changing your thought process on when to draft running backs.
32:01
Speaker 1: Get a special guy. I think Jeremiah Love is a
32:05
Speaker 1: special guy. I think he's one of those guys worth
32:07
Speaker 1: taking in the top five. Even I would not scoff
32:10
Speaker 1: at that, and maybe because it isn't even It's an
32:13
Speaker 1: even different thing Astuley than to take a running back
32:15
Speaker 1: at number three and then to trade up to number
32:19
Speaker 1: three to take a run because now not only are
32:21
Speaker 1: you taking a running back in the top three, you're
32:24
Speaker 1: also giving up other assets. And so I don't know
32:27
Speaker 1: if that's in the cards, but there's an awful lot
32:29
Speaker 1: of rumblings about Love maybe not lasting to the Titans
32:33
Speaker 1: at number four. There are a lot of rumblings about
32:36
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals trying to get out of number three,
32:38
Speaker 1: and there are an awful lot of rumblings about the
32:40
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns trying to move up from six for what
32:43
Speaker 1: we don't know, right, interesting, Yeah, a lot of interesting stuff. Also,
32:48
Speaker 1: Matt Miller is reporting he's by the way put together.
32:51
Speaker 1: He's like, that's it, this is this is all my stuff.
32:54
Speaker 1: I've given it to you, you know. And so he's
32:57
Speaker 1: got all of his mock drafting done and everything else
33:00
Speaker 1: from ESPN. But he did float this one out over
33:03
Speaker 1: the weekend to Bleacher Report that he believes that ty
33:06
Speaker 1: Simpson will last into the second round. His stock has
33:11
Speaker 1: fallen to the degree that he won't be taken in
33:14
Speaker 1: the first round. I think that that lends itself to
33:19
Speaker 1: the miracle at thirty fourth pick.
33:21
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there you go.
33:23
Speaker 1: That if he's still on the board for the Seahawks
33:26
Speaker 1: at thirty two on that somebody, whether it's the Cardinals
33:30
Speaker 1: or the Jets or the Browns that has some draft
33:33
Speaker 1: capital and would like to have a quarterback on a
33:35
Speaker 1: five year deal coming out of college seems to make
33:39
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. I think that's what
33:41
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for on Day one of the draft, is
33:43
Speaker 1: for Simpson to still be on the board when the
33:46
Speaker 1: Seahawks are picking and possibly make a trade that lands
33:49
Speaker 1: the more draft capital than they would have received otherwise
33:52
Speaker 1: because he's a quarterback. Yep, yeah, sign y yeah. So
33:55
Speaker 1: we'll see, all right, one last thing to close out
33:58
Speaker 1: this crazy Monday edition of Chalking Back in the Morning,
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r F M.
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Speaker 1: All right, final segment of this Monday show. Time for
34:19
Speaker 1: one last thing, and that's all the time that we have.
34:22
Speaker 1: So Ashley, what do you got for one last thing?
34:24
Speaker 5: My brain's a little fried today. I'm not gonna lie,
34:27
Speaker 5: but it was. We had a funny moment at our
34:30
Speaker 5: house the other day when Palmer the Great saw jose
34:34
Speaker 5: Al Toovey on the screen. She goes, Mom, isn't that
34:37
Speaker 5: a short guy? Yep, that's right, that's right, And I
34:43
Speaker 5: just thought, you know, you tell your kids things, or
34:46
Speaker 5: you say things.
34:47
Speaker 2: In there and they're around, and then when they repeat him,
34:49
Speaker 2: it just makes you laugh. Sometimes you're like, yeah, he's
34:51
Speaker 2: a little could fit in my pocket.
34:54
Speaker 1: You had to celebrate, because I know how much you
34:56
Speaker 1: hate tiny jose Al two baby. I had to celebrate
35:00
Speaker 1: when he got picked off like a few people have
35:03
Speaker 1: been picked off.
35:04
Speaker 2: That was embarrassing for him, and I loved it.
35:06
Speaker 1: You know, you know what, and we did. I should
35:08
Speaker 1: have brought this up with Healy, didn't think of it.
35:10
Speaker 1: We've covered a lot of great ground, though, dude, and
35:13
Speaker 1: that is Josh. I think they stumbled upon that by accident,
35:18
Speaker 1: like Naylor did a faking of the funk like he
35:21
Speaker 1: was going to come off the base, and then Logan,
35:25
Speaker 1: who never throws over to first spun and throws over
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Speaker 1: to first and then just got him caught, just completely
35:31
Speaker 1: flat footed. And I think even what I heard, Josh
35:37
Speaker 1: even got caught off guard by Logan throwing it over there,
35:40
Speaker 1: but obviously not as much as altoon.
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Speaker 2: Right, who was just standing there like a deer in
35:44
Speaker 2: the headlights.
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Speaker 1: But Naylor thinks, I mean, he's out there playing chess
35:48
Speaker 1: at all times. And Kevin Seitzer called him the most
35:52
Speaker 1: court aware player he's ever been around, including when Seitzer
35:55
Speaker 1: was a player. And that's quite the statement from Kevin Seitzer.
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Speaker 1: And so I wonder if that doesn't trigger something in
36:03
Speaker 1: Naylor's head about if we're gonna see more like juke moves.
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Speaker 1: Maybe can you imagine that I mean that was the
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Speaker 1: most boring play. And then in all of sports, I
36:13
Speaker 1: was so glad when they limit the number of throws
36:15
Speaker 1: over there, yeah, because it was going forever sometimes he
36:18
Speaker 1: drove six seven times. I mean, it didn't happen a lot,
36:21
Speaker 1: but man, nothing slowed a game to a crawl more
36:27
Speaker 1: than pickoff throws to first fully. Yeah, and for Josh
36:32
Speaker 1: Naylor of all people to figure out, hey, maybe I
36:35
Speaker 1: got a way to spice this play up, and I'm
36:38
Speaker 1: gonna make Juke moves over here at first base because
36:41
Speaker 1: whatever happened, Altuve just did not see it coming. I
36:45
Speaker 1: mean he didn't even move towards the bank move.
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Speaker 5: No, he just stood there like, oh, I'm out.
36:54
Speaker 1: Part of it might have been Logan Gilbert never throws
36:56
Speaker 1: over here. Part of it might have been, but I
36:58
Speaker 1: think most of it was Al Tube going what are
37:00
Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah, looking at Naylor in his footwork, like
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Speaker 1: what are you doing over there?
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Speaker 2: He was like, oh crap, Then he's out.
37:08
Speaker 1: Then you're out. So I don't know, Maybe we'll see
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Speaker 1: more of it. Maybe it unlocks new strategies for first
37:14
Speaker 1: basemen on how to hold runners, because they need the
37:18
Speaker 1: help we've given base dealing a gift by limiting the
37:23
Speaker 1: number of throws that you can make over there, the
37:25
Speaker 1: bases are bigger, all of that sort of thing. Maybe
37:29
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor accidentally stumbled into something that can even the plane,
37:34
Speaker 1: something that would be fun, it'll be interesting to see.
37:37
Speaker 1: Or maybe it was just a one time thing. They
37:39
Speaker 1: got lucky and I'm making too big a deal out
37:42
Speaker 1: of something again. All right, I'm going to talk NBA
37:47
Speaker 1: with my one last thing. Man, I do like the product,
37:53
Speaker 1: I really do. A lot of people crap on it
37:57
Speaker 1: all the time. I think they're wrong on the NBA product.
38:02
Speaker 1: But this tanking thing and this load management thing, and
38:07
Speaker 1: it's gotta be fixed. I mean, sounds like we're gonna
38:10
Speaker 1: be joining Seattle the NBA again here in a couple
38:13
Speaker 1: of years. I would like for you to have this fixed. Yeah,
38:16
Speaker 1: before we start playing, because in every other sport, the
38:20
Speaker 1: last couple of days of the season usually are thrilling.
38:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll get like one or two teams that sit
38:26
Speaker 5: some people out because they've already clinched the playoffs.
38:28
Speaker 1: Right, But there's enough, Yeah, there are enough unsettled things, yes,
38:33
Speaker 1: that you've got something to watch. There was nothing to
38:38
Speaker 1: watch last night. They put the Nuggets and the Spurs
38:41
Speaker 1: on because the Nuggets could have gotten the third or
38:45
Speaker 1: the four seed, and because Jokic needed to play fifteen
38:48
Speaker 1: minutes to be eligible for the MVP. We think about
38:52
Speaker 1: how silly this is.
38:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, that if somebody doesn't play the exact minutes or
38:56
Speaker 5: certain things, then they're not eligible for an award, So
38:58
Speaker 5: then you're gonna play them in certain The whole thing
39:00
Speaker 5: is ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: The third seed was so important to Denver they sat
39:04
Speaker 1: everybody except for Joker. So he's playing with the last
39:09
Speaker 1: five guys on the bench last night, and he's playing
39:12
Speaker 1: just to get fifteen minutes so he's eligible for the MVPE.
39:16
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? So I really do love
39:21
Speaker 1: the idea of getting to maybe it's the trade deadline,
39:26
Speaker 1: maybe it's a little bit after the trading deadline, but
39:29
Speaker 1: no more lottery.
39:32
Speaker 2: I don't hate that.
39:33
Speaker 1: You there's a certain point in the season where we
39:37
Speaker 1: start counting wins and whoever has the most. We put
39:42
Speaker 1: together this group of teams that have basically said we
39:47
Speaker 1: are waving the white flag on the season. So put
39:50
Speaker 1: together a group of teams. I don't know where that
39:52
Speaker 1: date is, it's probably not quite the trading deadline, but
39:55
Speaker 1: it's a little bit after that, and then at that point,
39:59
Speaker 1: whoever I the most wins gets the number one pick,
40:02
Speaker 1: second most wins gets the second and doing it that way, I.
40:06
Speaker 2: Still liked your envelope at the beginning of the season, idea.
40:10
Speaker 1: Well, something other than this. There were one hundred and
40:13
Speaker 1: fifty players that sat out of basketball on Saturday and
40:17
Speaker 1: an equal amount that sat out on Sunday because they
40:20
Speaker 1: couldn't find a game or a scenario, a playoff scenario
40:24
Speaker 1: that was meaningful enough to risk starters. Yeah, that's what
40:30
Speaker 1: That's what NBA teams chose. And I'm not saying they're
40:33
Speaker 1: wrong for choosing that. It just is obviously not a
40:37
Speaker 1: great look. It has not been a great look all
40:39
Speaker 1: year long for the league to be in this situation.
40:42
Speaker 1: And so They're gonna do something dramatic this offseason, and
40:45
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, and I'd love to be in
40:47
Speaker 1: on the conversation, Adam, give me a call.
40:49
Speaker 5: I think if if they don't do something this offseason,
40:52
Speaker 5: then that is a complete failure of their product.
40:54
Speaker 1: And I love Wemby and I think he is going
40:56
Speaker 1: to end up winning the MVP. Him or SGA and
41:00
Speaker 1: by the way, sixty five games barely qualified. But jokis
41:05
Speaker 1: led the league and rebounds and assists. He ever did
41:10
Speaker 1: a triple double. That's that's crazy enough.
41:12
Speaker 5: I had to play fifteen minutes to make sure he's
41:14
Speaker 5: eligible for the award.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy enough to average a triple than double. But
41:18
Speaker 1: if we've now seen a couple of people do it,
41:20
Speaker 1: maybe it's not as impactful a thing. But he led
41:23
Speaker 1: the league in a rebounds and assists. Never thought I'd
41:27
Speaker 1: ever see anybody do that. Yeah, Plus he averages thirty
41:30
Speaker 1: points a game. Hard for me not to vote MVP
41:35
Speaker 1: and for MVP at this point no matter how great
41:37
Speaker 1: Wimby and SGA are. All right, that'll do it for us.
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