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  Speaker 1: dot Great Detectives dot net. Well, now it is time
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  Speaker 1: for this week's episode of Dragnet. And we just had
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  Speaker 1: a two part episode on Johnny Dollar, and we're starting
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  Speaker 1: one on Dragnet. The original Aireday July twentieth, nineteen fifty
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  Speaker 1: and the title is The Big Gent Part One.
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  Speaker 2: The story you are about to hear is true, only
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  Speaker 2: the names have been changed to protect the innocent.
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  Speaker 3: Drag Nett.
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  Speaker 2: You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned to robbery detail. A
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  Speaker 2: hold up is committed in a neighboring city. A bystander
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  Speaker 2: is shot to death, two others are wounded. The bandits
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  Speaker 2: are ruthless.
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  Speaker 4: Well armed, your job get them Dragnet the documented drama
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  Speaker 4: of an actual crime.
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  Speaker 3: For the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on
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  Speaker 3: the side of the law through an actual case from
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  Speaker 3: official police bolence, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
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  Speaker 3: Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 5: It was Tuesday, October sixth, was cool in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 5: We're working a day watch out of robbery detail. My
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  Speaker 5: partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain ed Walker. My
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  Speaker 5: name is Friday. I was on the way back from
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  Speaker 5: Calvary Cemetery. I was eleven forty five am when I
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  Speaker 5: got to Room twenty seven eight robbery detail.
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  Speaker 6: Alright, how did Joel? How'd the funeral go through?
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  Speaker 7: Pretty good turnout.
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  Speaker 6: You're sorry I couldn't make it.
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  Speaker 7: No one of us had to be in court.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of the boys out there.
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  Speaker 7: Huh Yeah. Martin had a lot of friends. Was a
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  Speaker 7: good cop.
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  Speaker 6: You see his why Yeah? My wife took it hard again,
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  Speaker 6: pretty hard? Yeah? Well you buy ready for lunch and
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  Speaker 6: better make up the log book first. Now I'm got
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  Speaker 6: behind all right, Hi sto, Ben? What with you oh,
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  Speaker 6: the same old thing.
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  Speaker 7: Say what's the DR number on that job when we
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  Speaker 7: handled yesterday? Hm, the grocery store thing. You know, we
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  Speaker 7: showed those mugshots of the victims. You remember the DR number?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I got it here. Uh three seven
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  Speaker 6: four three three two three two. Thanks. My name's Frank Cheney,
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  Speaker 6: Crispin Parole from Pulsum.
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  Speaker 9: Can you tell me where I registered?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll get one of the men from the rehabilitation
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  Speaker 6: detail and take care of it.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks.
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  Speaker 6: Excuse me? Then? Oh yeah, bloss break hi, boss Bright,
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  Speaker 6: not a minute something for you here.
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  Speaker 11: I'll be right though.
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  Speaker 7: Did you contact the witnesses in this report?
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  Speaker 9: Here?
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  Speaker 6: Let me say this one.
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  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah, I tell you the desk once the
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  Speaker 12: register's next con okay, excuse me?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh you want to register?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, my name is Frank Cheney.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, dressed to wait team.
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  Speaker 2: Belgrade bell Grade been fulson got out saturday?
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  Speaker 6: Okay? What's full for robbery? First degree?
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  Speaker 9: How must you all served eighteen years?
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  Speaker 6: I'm in life parole? Oa. Hey, thanks d one. Tell
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  Speaker 6: Rombo we're out for seven Wait a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 8: Huh.
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  Speaker 6: See the guy at the desk, the one with Blatsburg.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, next Conway, Frank Cheney nineteen thirty one, Jack Taylor
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  Speaker 13: and I had him first, big one.
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  Speaker 6: We have a drive with so did you have an
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  Speaker 6: air of him? Used to call him a gentleman?
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  Speaker 13: Bandoned nineteen thirty one, Claude, that's eighteen years ago. Chaney
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  Speaker 13: was a big so came from a wealthy family too.
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  Speaker 13: The father is a millionaire.
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  Speaker 7: You sent him up?
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  Speaker 9: Huh?
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  Speaker 6: San Quentin tried to break out with a his Potney
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  Speaker 6: killed the trustee.
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  Speaker 13: Cheney, who sent the false.
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  Speaker 6: From a millionaire family? Answer queerly, Well.
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  Speaker 7: How about that, lunch fellow.
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  Speaker 13: So let's go seems like it could have been yesterday.
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  Speaker 13: Nineteen thirty one. We go old right along with the thieves.
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  Speaker 14: Where we go Federal Capak sorry with me eighteen years Yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 14: goes by in a hurry.
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  Speaker 7: I wonder if Cheney thinks so.
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  Speaker 5: As far as day to day routine goes, police work
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  Speaker 5: is pretty much like any other job. To the rookie
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  Speaker 5: detective just starting in, there's new things to see, new
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  Speaker 5: things to learn. But five or six years on the
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  Speaker 5: detail and the job gets pretty ordinary. You see a
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  Speaker 5: lot of dirt, a lot of trouble and tragedy, and
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  Speaker 5: after a while you begin to wonder what all the
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  Speaker 5: glamours about and the excitement that's supposed to go along
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  Speaker 5: with the job. The fall months went by pretty slow.
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  Speaker 5: On November third, we closed the case against the gang
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  Speaker 5: and drug store hold up man. In December, Ben's youngster
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  Speaker 5: fell off fence and sprained his wrist. My uncle George
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  Speaker 5: from Renton, Washington, visited my mother and me in January,
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  Speaker 5: stayed a couple of weeks. On January twenty eighth, it rained,
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  Speaker 5: Ben and I checked into the office where we got
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  Speaker 5: a phone call from Lieutenant Morton Gear of the San
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  Speaker 5: Diego Police Department. He gave us additional information on a
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  Speaker 5: finance company hold up which had been holding San.
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  Speaker 7: Diego the day before. In the robbery, one bystander had
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  Speaker 7: been shot and killed and another one wounded by the
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  Speaker 7: two abandons.
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  Speaker 5: They also shot a police officer three times through the
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  Speaker 5: stomach when he tried to stop him. Next day, Sergeants
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  Speaker 5: Ormsby and McGuire from San Diego arrived and we helped
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  Speaker 5: him check.
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  Speaker 7: The suspects through the Stat's office.
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  Speaker 6: A couple of bad ones Joe, both have guns and
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  Speaker 6: they use him. One of them got to win a
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  Speaker 6: car and the had one on foot, said right McGuire. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: big one used the car.
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  Speaker 7: We size owt to help some see forty five years old, height,
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  Speaker 7: six foot one or two inches leave two hundred and
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  Speaker 7: seventy five to eighty five pounds.
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  Speaker 12: Anybody get a look at the car boo forward Sedan
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  Speaker 12: nineteen forty or forty one mile.
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  Speaker 6: That's all we got. That's a rough one. That's all
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  Speaker 6: a shooting and witnesses didn't know what they saw, all
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  Speaker 6: mixed up.
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  Speaker 7: Well, how about the other one, the guy who got
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  Speaker 7: away on foot.
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  Speaker 15: Here's a WMA about fifty years old, five feet eight.
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  Speaker 6: To nine inches, one hundred forty five fifty five pounds.
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  Speaker 7: Whereas blasts, Yeah, we got that on the teletime.
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  Speaker 16: Is that all?
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  Speaker 9: Uh?
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  Speaker 15: No, We traced them the grey on bus deeopo about
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  Speaker 15: six blocks in the hold up, changed his clothes in
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  Speaker 15: the washroom.
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  Speaker 6: They're left behind a coat and the gun.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, the coat was kind of give parole. Some state
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  Speaker 12: pen checked it through our crime same kind of suits
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  Speaker 12: are issued to all x cons.
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  Speaker 7: No, mate, Well, at least you know one of them
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  Speaker 7: is an x con. I've got that gun you found.
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  Speaker 12: It's the murder weapon. Numeralistics men went over and no prints.
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  Speaker 12: Tried to trace the cereal number, no record, see I
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  Speaker 12: I and Sacramento is.
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  Speaker 6: Trying to run it down.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we got any hunches, a few.
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  Speaker 15: We're almost sure both of 'em had got on the
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  Speaker 15: route before. Pretty cool shut down. Three people didn't bet nine?
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  Speaker 15: How much did they take in the hold of eleven thousand?
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  Speaker 15: Are your Stat's office making a run those descriptions yet?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? This morning? Oh, i's got the list of possibilities
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  Speaker 6: they put in the mudhoss.
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  Speaker 7: Now there, I'll be winding it up. I know it's yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Let's check about.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, we'll go ahead and away.
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  Speaker 6: How's the wife want?
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  Speaker 9: He?
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  Speaker 7: Oh?
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  Speaker 6: Fine, man, she's expecting again. What are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 6: Raise an army? Four kids? That's not so bad. McGuire's
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  Speaker 6: wife won six? How about that? Man?
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  Speaker 9: Is there five? No? No point in quick?
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  Speaker 6: When you were ahead?
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  Speaker 7: Frank ahead?
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  Speaker 9: Job?
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  Speaker 7: You know Russ Ormsby and Tony McGuire, don't you have
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  Speaker 7: san Diego p d.
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  Speaker 6: Hi good, that's ready to call. You got those mug
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  Speaker 6: shots together? Boy? Got him right here?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, there you are.
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  Speaker 6: This is the exper suspect one. This is for number two.
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  Speaker 15: Okay, Frank, we'll check him out with the witnesses.
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  Speaker 6: There's one mug there. I'm a show yeah.
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  Speaker 14: This yeah, match is a description pret you because safe man,
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  Speaker 14: but Tragbury can go anywhere. Name's Weber, first name, Stanley,
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  Speaker 14: call him Turk. I think nickname know anything about it.
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  Speaker 6: He's next.
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  Speaker 5: Con Ormsby and McGuire drove back to San Diego to
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  Speaker 5: show the mug shots to the hold up witnesses and
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  Speaker 5: see if they could get an identification. Late the next afternoon,
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  Speaker 5: they called back to tell us that Stanley Turk Weber
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  Speaker 5: had definitely been identified from his mug shot by four
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  Speaker 5: of the five witnesses as one of.
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  Speaker 7: The hold up men. His partner remained unidentified.
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  Speaker 5: We called Turk Weber's parole officer, got all the available
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  Speaker 5: information on the suspect, including his latest address, an apartment
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  Speaker 5: house on North Alameda.
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  Speaker 7: Weber wasn't there.
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  Speaker 5: We talked with the apartment house manager and he told
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  Speaker 5: us that Turk hadn't been seen there since the day
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  Speaker 5: before the San Diego robbery and murder.
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  Speaker 7: We had a stake output on the apartment.
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  Speaker 5: Ben and I went back to the office and had
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  Speaker 5: the record Bureau pull Weber's package. On his MAMA sheet,
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  Speaker 5: Ben spotted a familiar name, Henry Garson, another ex KHN
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  Speaker 5: who was listed as one of Turk Weber's closest friends.
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  Speaker 7: We we got a hold of Garson's parole officer.
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  Speaker 5: He told us Garson that had his parole transferred to
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  Speaker 5: San Diego, where he disappeared two weeks before. He was
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  Speaker 5: wanted for violation of parole. We tried to check Webber
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  Speaker 5: through his relatives. We couldn't find any, but Henry Garson's
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  Speaker 5: report showed that he had a brother, Al who ran
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  Speaker 5: a dry.
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  Speaker 7: Cleaning shop down in the Sealed Beach. He had no
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  Speaker 7: criminal record. Next morning, when he broke down to see him.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Henry came around last July. It's the last time
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  Speaker 6: I saw him. I want to buy my car. You
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  Speaker 6: got any idea where he might be? Now?
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  Speaker 7: No, you're his brother.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know where he is. That's the truth. I
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  Speaker 6: don't want to know where he is.
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  Speaker 7: Was anyone with him when he came to see you last?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: You know who his friends are?
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  Speaker 6: Friends?
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 6: Would you look at these pictures? Please see if you've
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  Speaker 6: been identifying him?
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  Speaker 9: I just.
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  Speaker 6: No these yeah, no Ah, how about these? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, look,
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  Speaker 6: can't can't you talk to me later?
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  Speaker 17: It's not good for business having cops around a shop.
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  Speaker 17: What would you yell for if the shop was held up?
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  Speaker 17: Mister Carson?
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  Speaker 7: Got to do with your brother's in trouble, we might
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  Speaker 7: stop him from geting in deeper.
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  Speaker 6: I have to wear now? How long it's running? Morning? Now?
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  Speaker 6: I help you?
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  Speaker 11: No, you'll go ahead and waiting the gentlemen.
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  Speaker 6: Nah, that's what they're just waiting. I help you.
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  Speaker 9: My husband's cleaned and press? Can you have back Tuesday?
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  Speaker 6: Tuesday? Got right?
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  Speaker 11: My paid jacket?
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  Speaker 9: See if you press? Can you stalk his little chairs here? Y? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: You gotta Rea take care of now Tuesday all right?
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  Speaker 6: He yeah, thanks for running all right out?
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  Speaker 9: Why thanks?
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  Speaker 7: I don't like to hold you up, Garden. Just a
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  Speaker 7: few more questions. Ah, now you said the last time
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  Speaker 7: your brother was here he wanted to borrow your cars.
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  Speaker 7: I right, that's right. Did you let him have it?
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  Speaker 6: I let him have nothing. How about the rest of
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  Speaker 6: your finding me? Oh? Can't you let us along? Henry
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  Speaker 6: some trouble. Let him take care of it.
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  Speaker 7: I got troubles enough of this is important. Guards, So
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  Speaker 7: We've got to have your cooperation.
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  Speaker 6: Why me, Oh, Henry's no good, I admit it. It's
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  Speaker 6: still my brother. Yeah, you asked me to send him
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  Speaker 6: to jail if he belongs there. Yell, I don't want
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  Speaker 6: any trouble. He won't be in.
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  Speaker 17: My mother lives in Santa Barbara, just moved there. I
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  Speaker 17: got the address. Henry goes to see her every once
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  Speaker 17: in a while. When's the last time I saw it?
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  Speaker 17: Two weeks ago, I was there too, and something else
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  Speaker 17: and said Henry had a gun.
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  Speaker 5: Eleven am Tuesday, Ben and I drove back to the
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  Speaker 5: office and put in a call to the Santa Barbara
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  Speaker 5: Police Department.
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  Speaker 7: We asked him to put a.
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  Speaker 5: Stake out on the home of Henry Garson's mother and
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  Speaker 5: to notify us the minute the Garsen was apprehended. We
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  Speaker 5: contacted San Diego and told him what we'd found out.
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  Speaker 5: After that, we doubled back on Turk Weber. From one
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  Speaker 5: of our informants, we heard that Weber and Garson has
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  Speaker 5: gone into some kind of a business together for a
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  Speaker 5: bank roll. It'd succeeded in getting a loan from the
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  Speaker 5: Second National.
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  Speaker 7: Bank out in Glendale.
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  Speaker 5: One PM, we drove out and checked with the manager
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  Speaker 5: of the bank's loan department of mister Peabody.
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  Speaker 14: Here we are our officers, Stanley T. Weber, Henry Garson.
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  Speaker 14: O papers were signed.
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  Speaker 6: Over a month ago. What kind of a loan was it?
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  Speaker 6: Business loan?
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  Speaker 9: Garson?
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  Speaker 14: Weber came in with another man. They talked to our manager,
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  Speaker 14: mister Ascott.
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  Speaker 6: Excuse me?
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  Speaker 7: What business are they in?
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  Speaker 6: Trucking concern? They wanted the money to buy equipment.
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  Speaker 7: More trucks. How much money did they borrow?
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  Speaker 6: Forty five hundred dollars usual terms? I guess you inquired
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  Speaker 6: into their background. Oh, yes, their old financial background.
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  Speaker 7: Did you know that Garson and Weber are both ex convicts?
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  Speaker 7: I beg your pardon, I said, did you know that
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  Speaker 7: both the Marex convicts?
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  Speaker 6: Are you sure you haven't made a mistake? Henry Garson,
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  Speaker 6: Stanley T.
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  Speaker 14: Webber, Yeah, that's right. What they offered for collateral, well,
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  Speaker 14: they had some of their equipment, two trucks. And then
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  Speaker 14: of course there was the co signer who was the.
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  Speaker 6: Name's right here on the loan papers.
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  Speaker 14: I see right here, co signer Frank Cheney.
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  Speaker 5: Two thirty pm. Then and I checked back into the
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  Speaker 5: office and went down the hall R and I. We
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  Speaker 5: pulled a package on Frank Bertram Cheney, white male.
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  Speaker 7: American, five foot eight and a half inches, one hundred
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  Speaker 7: and fifty two pounds, brown here, brown eyes. The record
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  Speaker 7: read like a diamond.
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  Speaker 5: Almost twenty years before, Cheney had crashed into the headlines
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  Speaker 5: of the Pacific Coast newspapers as the Gentleman Bandit.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe some of the news stories were.
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  Speaker 5: Exaggerated, but the record showed that he actually owned a yacht,
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  Speaker 5: three expensive cars, an apartment house. In spite of all this,
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  Speaker 5: he had decided to settle for a career of robbery
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  Speaker 5: and murder. The age of thirty was the most sought
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  Speaker 5: after man on the Pacific Coast.
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  Speaker 7: Finally, in nineteen thirty one, after tracking him for a
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  Speaker 7: year and a half through more than a dozen armed robberies,
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  Speaker 7: Sergeants Thaxter and Tailor of the Los Angeles Police Department
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  Speaker 7: brought him in. He served eighteen years at San Quentin
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  Speaker 7: and fullsome penitentiaries, and then he won his parole at
• 14:36
  Speaker 7: the age of forty eight. We checked his parole officer
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  Speaker 7: and he had nothing to report against him. We checked
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  Speaker 7: back in at robbery detail. We met with Captain ed Walker.
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  Speaker 6: How about Cheney's friends Weber and Garson, nothing yet other things.
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  Speaker 6: Skipper stake out still on Gardener's mother's place in Santa Barbaro,
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  Speaker 6: where was apartment still covering. He called San Diego about
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  Speaker 6: this at Cheney Angle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we briefed him. They got all the mugshots down there.
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  Speaker 5: Weber's definitely been tagged as one of the men on
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  Speaker 5: that finance.
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  Speaker 6: Well, John pay Good Garden for the second man, but
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  Speaker 6: none of the witnesses have picked out his mug shot.
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  Speaker 6: You talked to Chene's parole officer, Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 14: He gave us Chane's last address, same as the one
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  Speaker 14: in his ex coun registration, but he's moved.
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  Speaker 7: Didn't notify the off What does that leave you? Well,
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  Speaker 7: I talked to the manager at your apartment. He gave
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  Speaker 7: us a couple of addresses to run down us. We
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  Speaker 7: better start getting.
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  Speaker 6: Huh Yeah, Keith in touch.
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  Speaker 12: I'll notify if anything breaks here right in just a minute,
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  Speaker 12: robbery Walker.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, just a minute, you Joe, Thank you, San Diego.
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  Speaker 7: Friday McGuire, Joe, how you doing good? You got something?
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  Speaker 18: We had to hold up.
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  Speaker 6: Witnesses back and again this.
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  Speaker 16: Afternoon showed him more mug shots. Yeah, picked out Wi's
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  Speaker 16: partner in the hold up. The name is Frank Chaney.
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  Speaker 3: You are listening to drag nets The case history of
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  Speaker 3: a police investigation presented in the public interest.
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  Speaker 7: Tuesday, January thirty, first, four pm. In addition to the
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  Speaker 7: San Diego.
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  Speaker 5: Teletype, we got out a local broadcast and an APB
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  Speaker 5: on Frank Cheney.
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  Speaker 7: By four point thirty, Ben and I had checked out.
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  Speaker 5: The first of two addresses where Cheney's former landlady told
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  Speaker 5: us that he might be staying, was a rooming house
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  Speaker 5: out on West Washington.
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  Speaker 7: The owner told us that Cheney had.
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  Speaker 5: Stayed at his place for a few days, but that
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  Speaker 5: had been more than two months before. He had no
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  Speaker 5: idea where the suspect might be. We then drove to
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  Speaker 5: the second address. It was an apartment house on West
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  Speaker 5: Stanford near Slawson. Manager's name was Missus Pritchard.
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  Speaker 9: Why yes, I believe mister missus Cheney at home. They've
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  Speaker 9: been in all day.
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  Speaker 6: Which apartment is there in, ma'am?
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  Speaker 9: Number seven? Straight down the hall and you're right, thank you.
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  Speaker 9: They may be having dinner now they're expecting you be all.
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  Speaker 19: Right, ma'am, thank you. Okay, how about the door, it's open,
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  Speaker 19: come on. The apartment was deserted.
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  Speaker 7: We checked the bedroom.
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  Speaker 5: In the kitchen the robvious signs of a fast getaway.
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  Speaker 5: On a card table. In the living room we found
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  Speaker 5: the remains of a quick dinner. Two places were set.
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  Speaker 5: One plate was almost cleaned, the other hardly touched. The
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  Speaker 5: coffee on the stove was still luke warm. We called
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  Speaker 5: the office and arranged for a stakeout.
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  Speaker 7: Then we went back down the hall and talked of
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  Speaker 7: the manager again.
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  Speaker 9: They moved in about a month ago, Sergent. They looked
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  Speaker 9: like any other newly married couple.
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  Speaker 6: Did you notice if they had any visitors, missus Puget, Well,
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  Speaker 6: they might have, but I didn't notice.
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  Speaker 7: Did you notice anything odd about him at all?
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  Speaker 9: Only that one thing? Yes, ma'am, mister Cheney always seemed
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  Speaker 9: to have plenty of money put down two months or
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  Speaker 9: at in advance. He didn't seem to have a job. Yes,
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  Speaker 9: m Every morning he'd sleep late, but his wife was
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  Speaker 9: up at eight o'clock to go to work.
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  Speaker 6: Where'd she work?
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  Speaker 16: You know?
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  Speaker 9: Oh company called Thompson and some other name offices are
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  Speaker 9: down on South Hope Builders, I think Holmes.
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  Speaker 6: And my phone.
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  Speaker 7: Would you excuse me, yes, ma'am, go right ahead.
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  Speaker 20: Hello, oh yes, what yes? Two police officers Ritchard no
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  Speaker 20: to h Hello Cheney Yes.
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  Speaker 9: He hung up.
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  Speaker 7: An alert for Cheney and his wife was broadcast with
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  Speaker 7: special attention for the south end of the city. The
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  Speaker 7: wife's name and description was added to the APV.
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  Speaker 5: The next morning, Ben and I located her place of employment,
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  Speaker 5: Thompson Killed Kenny, a big construction company. The office manager
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  Speaker 5: told us that three days before Missus Cheney had resigned
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  Speaker 5: her job by letter. She asked that her final paycheck
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  Speaker 5: be sent to her mother, who lived in Marysville, California.
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  Speaker 7: We contacted the Marysville Police Department immediately, and the.
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  Speaker 5: Home of Cheney's mother in law was placed under twenty
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  Speaker 5: four hour surveillance. We now had more than a half
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  Speaker 5: a dozen stakeouts going. A week passed nothing. Chaney and
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  Speaker 5: his wife seem to have dropped completely from sight. Wednesday,
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  Speaker 5: February ninth, we got a tip from the Sata Barbara
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  Speaker 5: Police that Cheney's friend, Henry Garsonal was in Los Angeles
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  Speaker 5: working in an auction house in Wilscha Boulevard.
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  Speaker 7: We ran it down.
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  Speaker 6: It looks like a high class play and I got
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  Speaker 6: a nice.
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  Speaker 7: Crowd, haven't we h.
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  Speaker 9: You have last here?
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  Speaker 7: No thanks, we'd like to see the manager please all right,
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  Speaker 7: let me see.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yes, over there by the claim desk, the man
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  Speaker 9: in the dark suit.
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  Speaker 6: Mister Willie. Thank you all right.
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  Speaker 7: Uh mister Willie. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Police officers, sir, we'd like to check on a man
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  Speaker 5: who was supposed to be one of your employees.
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  Speaker 18: Here.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, that's what's his name?
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  Speaker 14: Here's his picture? Can you identify why? Yes, it's Johnson,
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  Speaker 14: the new clerk. I wanna talk to you, bless you
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  Speaker 14: all right, right this way. He's back in the store room.
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  Speaker 14: Some kind of trouble.
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  Speaker 6: Would like to talk. Yes, all right, let's see. Oh, yes,
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  Speaker 6: there is Johnson. Oh Johnson.
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  Speaker 7: Would you come on, Ben?
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  Speaker 9: Keep running?
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  Speaker 7: Johnson back?
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  Speaker 6: Yep, there he goes, he's heading up the street. Come on, yep,
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  Speaker 6: you got on that bus, all right?
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  Speaker 7: Come on a double back of the car.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, hurry, yep, you see the bus.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, come on, move it, yep, m all right. Hit
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  Speaker 7: the siren, alright.
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  Speaker 18: That did it.
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  Speaker 7: The driver's pulling over.
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  Speaker 6: Pull up behind the bus there, huhay, come on, let's go.
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  Speaker 5: If you cover the back door, here, open your door.
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  Speaker 5: Police officers want to check you passengers, open.
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  Speaker 6: That rear door right away. All right, Garsen, get off.
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  Speaker 6: I'm getting off, Getting off top and make a home.
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  Speaker 14: He's got a gun, I said him, getting off, good Joe, Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's get him off. Figure.
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  Speaker 6: What's it all?
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  Speaker 9: A party?
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  Speaker 6: Do something wrong?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah? He didn't get off when we asked him to.
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  Speaker 5: Nine pm Wednesday, we drove Garson to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital,
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  Speaker 5: where he was treated for minor cuts and bruises, and
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  Speaker 5: then we took him back to the office, the interrogation room.
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  Speaker 7: We called San Diego and notified them of the arrest.
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  Speaker 7: From ten o'clock that night until ten the next morning,
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  Speaker 7: Captain Walker, Ben and.
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  Speaker 5: I questioned Garson. He refused to admit that he even
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  Speaker 5: knew Frank Cheeney or Turk Webber. By noon, he was
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  Speaker 5: pretty tired, so were we. At twelve oh five, a
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  Speaker 5: call came through from San.
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  Speaker 7: Diego on Friday.
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  Speaker 6: This is Russ Ormsby. Yeah, Ruh, fris.
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  Speaker 18: Leedo Turk Webber.
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  Speaker 6: He's got a sister living in Sant Clemetty. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 6: we've got our house staked out, haven't tip. He's going
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  Speaker 6: to pay her a visit.
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  Speaker 7: When's that this afternoon three point fifteen pm.
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  Speaker 5: We got to the Sant Clemtty turn off, and a
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  Speaker 5: few minutes later Armsby and.
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  Speaker 7: Maguire arrived from San Diego. We drove to the.
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  Speaker 5: Home of Weber's sister on South Orange Street and identified ourselves.
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  Speaker 7: She told us that Turk.
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  Speaker 5: Had been there that morning, but that he'd gone to
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  Speaker 5: the races at del Mar for the afternoon.
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  Speaker 6: Did your brother say he was coming back, that he
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  Speaker 6: might be back?
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  Speaker 9: He wasn't sure.
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  Speaker 6: Did he go to the racetrack alone? Yeah? Was he
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  Speaker 6: going to meet anyone there?
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  Speaker 11: I don't think. Sally didn't mention it driving a car. No,
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  Speaker 11: he took the bus to the track.
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  Speaker 7: I see, where would he most likely go if he
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  Speaker 7: doesn't come back here?
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 11: Maybe back dl A, maybe San Diego, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Do you know if your brother Turk is gonna meet
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  Speaker 6: Frank Cheney?
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  Speaker 11: How could he? Turk says, Cheney's up north someplace with
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  Speaker 11: his wife. Told me that this morning where up north?
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  Speaker 9: He didn't know?
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  Speaker 7: You and McGuire want to stake out here? Ormsby, Ben
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  Speaker 7: and I will hit the track.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, look, I can't have cops here if Turk
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  Speaker 11: comes back, I think I framed him.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't get over it.
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  Speaker 11: You don't know. Turck when he gets sorry, goes out
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  Speaker 11: of his head. He'll killed me.
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  Speaker 12: Why worry, miss Huh, You'll have to kill us first.
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  Speaker 5: Three forty five the U, Ben and I left Weber's
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  Speaker 5: sister's house and drove down to the racetrack at Delmar.
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  Speaker 5: We got there just at the start of the seventh race.
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  Speaker 5: We had no idea whether the suspect was still there
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  Speaker 5: or not. We alerted the security police, gave them mugshots
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  Speaker 5: of Webber, and we went to.
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  Speaker 7: The public address booth in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 5: And talked to the man in charge. A few minutes later,
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  Speaker 5: the trap for Weber was set.
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  Speaker 6: Mister Stanley T.
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  Speaker 21: Webber, please come to the public address BOOL with a
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  Speaker 21: budget your phone call.
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  Speaker 10: Mister Stanley T.
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  Speaker 6: Webber, please come to the public address book.
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  Speaker 7: We waited, Ben stationed at the vantage point on one
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  Speaker 7: side of the booth, me on the other.
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  Speaker 5: Minutes passed, Weber didn't show. Ben caught my eye, shrugged
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  Speaker 5: his shoulders.
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  Speaker 21: Mister Stanley T. Webber, please come to the public address bool.
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  Speaker 21: Emergency telephone call mister Stanley T. Weber please come to the.
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  Speaker 5: Public dress boot announce. It was barely finished when I
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  Speaker 5: saw Ben motioning. I looked and saw a large man
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  Speaker 5: heading up the cement ramp. When he got to the top,
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  Speaker 5: he turned to his right and headed straight for the
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  Speaker 5: public address booth.
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  Speaker 7: It was Turk Weber.
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  Speaker 6: Hold it right there, web.
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  Speaker 7: Police officers, get your hands up.
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  Speaker 6: It's this your lisie. Cops. I'll have you fusted for this.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: David ever get your hands up, Oh.
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  Speaker 6: Tips, what difference does it make sense? Still, you will
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  Speaker 6: never get him. You'll never get him in twenty years.
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  Speaker 6: You never get who you know, Oh Cheney, he's too
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  Speaker 6: smart for you. You'll never get him, not in twenty
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  Speaker 6: all right.
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  Speaker 7: We got you Weber shaken, I'll shake you, cople go,
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  Speaker 7: I'll kill you.
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  Speaker 6: I'll kill you, all right, purpose that's see. He sure
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  Speaker 6: a big peggy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: What's that over there? They'd fall out of his pocket?
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: Looks like a tip sheet?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, blue boys peerless selection for Thursday price one dollar.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Looked at him. Can best picks? You can't lose. This
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: is your lucky day.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: What's improved?
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: You gotta get his dollar back.
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  Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: names were changed to protect the innocent.
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  Speaker 3: On June nineteenth, trial was held in Superior Court, City
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and County of San Diego, State of California. In a
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: moment the results of that trial, After identifying Frank Cheney
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: as the man who did the shooting in the San
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Diego hold up and murder, Stanley T. Webber was tried
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and convicted of participation in the robbery and received a
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: sentence of life imprisonment. Henry Garson was cleared of any
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: complicity in the hold up killing, but he was returned
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: to prison for violation of parole and for several burglaries
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: in San Diego and Los Angeles. Both men are now
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: serving their terms in the state penitentiary.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Next week, Frank Cheney The Gentleman Bandit Part two.
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  Speaker 3: You have just heard Dragnet a series of authentic cases
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  Speaker 3: from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes from the
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  Speaker 3: Office of Chief of Police W. A. Wharton, Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 10: Next, Sarah's Private Caper with comedian Sarah Berner on NBC.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This one is interesting primarily because of the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: geographic scope. For so many episodes, Los Angeles is the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: main center of action for obvious reasons, but in this case,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: we've got criminals who are operating in a way that's
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  Speaker 1: really spread out across the state, and we get to
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  Speaker 1: see a more intricate cross jurisdictional operation. We even meet
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  Speaker 1: the San Diego Police context because they are important to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the story in many ways. One of the big focuses
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: of dragnet At, particularly at this time, is to show
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the complexity of the police machine, and that served when
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Friday makes that observation about the sheer number of stakeouts
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that they had going on across the state. Now, of course,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the big question is how are the police going to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: capture this very elusive and experienced criminal, And of course
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that is our big cliffhanger for next week. All right, well,
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  Speaker 10: Johnny Dellaron this is the Oh. Yes, my mate tells
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: me that.
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  Speaker 18: You were trying to reach me by telephone.
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: That's right, condis I want to talk to you? Where
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: are you now?
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  Speaker 18: At my residence? Of course? Did you think I might
• 30:10
  Speaker 18: come running immediately to your hotel? Mister dollar?
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: Not after hearing your description. I'm seldom that lucky.
• 30:16
  Speaker 18: What is it exactly that you wish to talk about?
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: One hundred thousand dollars worth of diamonds and a dead man.
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  Speaker 10: I'm a special investigator.
• 30:23
  Speaker 18: I know who you are. I investigate before I call you.
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: Well not only beautiful but clever. This ought to be interesting.
• 30:29
  Speaker 18: I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your recipency.
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: Then suppose I come over and explain it to you
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  Speaker 10: say around eight o'clock.
• 30:36
  Speaker 18: I'll make a definite effort to be here.
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: You know something, condis, I think it's about time somebody
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: built a small fire right under that lovely little complacency
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  Speaker 10: of yours. I'll be there at eight.
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