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Alex Houston's Journey, PodsPlaysGolf, and Content Creation Insights · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Welcome into another exciting episode of the Scene Project Sports Network.
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  I am your host, Bubba Starts.
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  And with me today from Pods Plays Golf, Alex, welcome to the show, brother.
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  Hey.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  Yeah.
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  Alex or Pods as you're affectionately known in the Internet world.
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  It's a pleasure to get you on here.
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  Talk some golf today.
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  It's a little rainy here in South Dakota today, but the snow at least is holding off for now.
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  And, we're looking at maybe in the next three to four weeks getting on the course in the
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  Upper Midwest.
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  But you're down in Texas where golf is a year round sport.
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  California, actually.
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  California.
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  Okay.
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  So you're out in Cali.
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  Yeah.
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  Same deal.
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  Unfortunately, though, they'll, today and yesterday, it's been, it's been pretty cold,
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  windy, and rainy.
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  What is cold to someone in California?
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  Cold to someone in California would probably be realistically, would probably be 50 degrees,
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  but we're talking, like like, 30 degrees with the wind right now.
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  So
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  I'll give you that.
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  We, you know, South Dakota obviously gets 50 below zero.
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  So Oh, I oh, oh, I know.
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  I used to, before I moved here back to California, I used to live in, Kansas and
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  Michigan, so very well aware.
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  I've had tears freeze to my face while shoveling snow from my neighbors in Michigan,
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  but it's a special kind of pain that you're seeing in the
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  Yes, sir.
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  It is.
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  I love it, man.
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  Well, before we get too much further into the conversation, would love to just give you the
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  floor and, have you give us a little bit of your backstory, how you got into the YouTube
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  golf scene and creating content around that, and then we'll pick up the convo from there.
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  Okay.
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  So, basically, about a year and a half ago, I started this gaming channel called the Yarn and
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  Pod, which was a game Bloodborne it was based around.
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  And I would make content, whether it was boss battles or just basic lore videos, and it was
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  just something to do, like a hobby.
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  And about four months into doing that, I was like, I'm not really satisfied with this.
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  You know?
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  I tried doing game reviews with it, and I was just like, this isn't really something I'm
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  enjoying.
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  But I also was well aware because this was like, I looked at my body at the time and I'm
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  like, I don't really feel good either.
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  So let me go outside and just try and get a hobby.
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  You know?
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  And I looked at golf and I was like, well, this is a great way I could lose weight and not
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  really think about losing weight because I'm playing a game.
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  So when I started back last, good lord, eight months ago, so let's just say early summer,
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  like, June ish, I had this idea.
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  I was like, well, why don't I just take pods from my gaming channel, and then I'll just swap
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  it to Pods Plays Golf.
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  And it's a lot less niche than the Yarnum pod.
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  So it's like Pods plays golf.
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  You can plug and play that anywhere.
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  And over the course of eight months, I went from not really knowing how to swing a golf
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  club all that well to now I'm pretty decent at it.
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  Still got my struggles.
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  But I went from two hundred and ninety two pounds down to I'm now at two fifty.
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  And I think that's that's to me is the most incredible, and people don't think about it.
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  And and we talk a lot about, you know, golf being a lifetime sport.
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  Right?
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  And there's ways to play this game well into your, you know, eighties or or nineties
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  possibly.
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  I'm not sure what the oldest golf player out there is, the oldest golfer, but you see guys,
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  you know, that are swinging it daily for, you know, decades beyond retirement.
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  And I don't think enough of us think about especially if you're out there walking the
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  courses and carrying your clubs and doing that, how it can be a, you know, a weight loss
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  journey.
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  And I love that you kind of focus on that, and congratulations.
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  Losing, you know, 40 pounds, right, in less than a year, that's huge, man.
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  That's huge.
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  Or maybe a little less huge.
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  I see what you did there.
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  But I'll I can I can attest to this much?
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  It is, there are old timers out there that are probably about twice my age, three times my
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  age.
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  They can still swing that stick like they're twenty ten Rory.
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  Okay?
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  Now as far as their back and their knee pain goes, I don't know if they could do 72 holes,
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  but they can definitely wax you on a, you know, a nine hole match.
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  So
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  And it's still fun, and and it doesn't feel like working out.
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  Right?
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  No.
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  It doesn't feel you're you're playing a game.
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  You're playing a very frustrating, game at times, but the elation, you know, for me and
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  especially and I'm not, you know, pro or I would even say a good golfer by any means, but
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  that one shot can change your whole day.
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  That watching it, you know, land in the middle of the fairway or sinking a a 20 foot putt, for
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  a birdie once around is enough to keep you coming back to it, and, I just love it.
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  For me, I love the camaraderie on the golf course, the the community that is built around
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  not just people on your home course, but throughout the entire sport because it for most
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  of us, it's all the same.
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  You know?
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  99% of golfers out there are not playing to a level that they would be taking it
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  professional.
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  Right?
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  So it it is about the the camaraderie of knowing that this game can beat the best of
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  them.
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  And it's honing into that, and I think it's such an amazing sport.
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  I'm very grateful to have people that sponsor our golf content.
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  A huge shout out to the Skunk Golf Company.
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  I got their polo on today.
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  Look good even if your game stinks, and a huge shout out to Shankit Golf as well.
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  We are ambassadors, each of us, for Shankit.
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  And I think these companies get that.
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  Right?
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  And especially the two companies that we're talking about right now that it's not about
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  being the best golfer on the course every day.
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  It's about going out with your friends, having a great time, maybe crushing some beers out
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  there, and, you know, pulling them out of your shank it, caddy and, tagging along out on the
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  course.
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  It's about having fun, and it's about being part of a community.
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  Well, I'm a little bit partial to the West Coast, if you will.
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  I know in South Dakota, the laws may be a little different, but out here, we have a
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  little bit of California green, if you get what I mean.
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  It's a little bit of green for the greens.
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  Which also fixed the skunked label.
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  So
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  All I'm all I'll say is this too is that I don't think people give golf, you know, broadly
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  speaking, the appreciation it deserves.
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  And I think with the masters coming up here pretty soon too, that people, like, really tune
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  it.
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  Like, if you watch the masters ratings every year, it's if for a sport like golf in America
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  where it's like, you think of it as an old boys club thing initially.
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  But to see how much the game has grown and to see all the new people getting into it, like, I
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  see people from, like, the smoke shop going to golf.
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  I see people from, you know, different sports, like soccer players, baseball players going to
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  golf.
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  Players?
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  Hockey players.
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  Gotta control those ones.
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  They'll crush, like, six beers before the first tee.
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  Just saying.
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  So I don't know if you, are if you watch, any golf YouTubers, but spitting chiclets.
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  If you wanna watch some hockey players play some golf, I highly recommend.
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  I love their pod, man.
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  Some great guys.
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  Absolutely love and I love that the independent creator space, the YouTube golf space, while
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  dominated by your Bryson DeChambos and Grant Horvath and Phil and, you know, Bob does
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  sports.
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  My favorite.
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  There's plenty there's plenty of room out here for guys like us to create and build our own
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  community online as well.
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  It's You know?
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  It's not very gatekeeping, this community.
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  Like, the golf community, especially online, And I will credit this.
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  I know he hates being called this wonder boy here, but Horvath has really opened up this
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  space to people you wouldn't really see in this space ten, twenty years ago.
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  Like, you wouldn't see a fat Perez on the Internet, you know, guy who grew up in
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  Richmond.
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  Oh, Joey Cold Cuts.
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  In my opinion, my favorite YouTube golfer who's not of, like, the Bob does sports, Grant
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  Horovat, all that, dude, Brad Dahlke.
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  Like, the guy's a stand up guy.
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  We got to see him on the Internet invitational, and not a lot of people like, people knew Brad
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  from Good Good, but now they know Brad.
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  And they get to go watch Brad and Sean do their thing, and I think that's awesome.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's really just about finding people that you vibe with.
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  If you're going to consume content these days, we have so many options out there that I the
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  world has changed, and especially over the course of the last decade.
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  And I think that's why you saw the explosion of YouTube golf over really the last five to six
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  years that it people just want to, they want people they vibe with.
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  And the reason that a a Bob does sports and fats and all these guys are so popular is
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  because you see your friends in them.
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  Right?
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  Like, you see something of your crew inside of their crew, and this person reminds you of that
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  or or whatever.
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  And I I think that it really encouraged me into getting into the YouTube golf space.
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  Now, obviously, our sports network covers pretty much every sport under the sun, but it
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  was very important to me to dip into the golf space because it's a sport that I love.
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  It's something that I spend a lot of time doing during the summer.
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  It's something that me and my wife can do together.
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  Right?
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  It's not just for the boys.
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  It's definitely a way that and not just, you know, husband and wife, you know, couples come
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  together, but whole families.
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  Right?
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  We love to take our kids out on the course and to have moments with them and teaching them the
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  game very early in their lives.
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  You know, my son and daughter are nine and 10.
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  And for most of the last several years, they've just kinda come out there and walked and ran
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  around, but they get to come up and putt and and have some fun with us.
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  And it takes that one that one shot to hook you.
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  So, Pods, what was that one shot for you early in your golf playing, career that was like, oh,
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  I'm gonna do this forever?
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  Oh, man.
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  That's kinda hard to narrow it down to one.
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  But if I had to save my one shot and I'm gonna circle back real quick to it.
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  But you said with the wife, the kids, the person who films all my content is my wife.
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  So we do this together as a couple.
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  I actually just went and got her some clubs last month, so she's gonna start learning the
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  game too.
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  So I just I thought that was awesome.
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  You know, they're bringing that up, and I'm glad to hear that you were getting your kids
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  into it.
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  It's a game that I feel like a lot of young guys and gals could get into and enjoy.
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  But my shot that I'd say that really, like, hooked me to the point where I'm like, oh, man.
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  This is this is my life now.
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  It was eight iron.
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  It was a par it was a par four, a pretty tight par four at Apple Valley Golf.
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  I had about a 130 yards in.
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  I had an eight iron.
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  At the time, I was playing these really souped up Wilson Launchpad twos because I could, like,
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  I couldn't swing very well yet, but I still wanted to enjoy the game.
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  And I had aimed it slightly right because the wind was blowing left and it kinda sloped.
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  And I popped it.
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  It landed right on the green, and it stopped for a second, but then it started rolling to
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  the side.
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  And I stuck it to, like, a foot.
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  And I'm just sitting there like, did I get that on film?
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  And she's like, you did.
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  And I'm like, did I really just do that?
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  She's like, you did.
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  I'm like, I'm gonna go tap that in.
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  I tap that.
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  I tap that.
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  I love it.
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  I love it, and I hope you've had several since then that that keep you moving.
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  Birdie a couple days ago.
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  Nice.
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  Congrats, man.
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  First one of the season.
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  I, I hope, very many more to come, for you.
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  I was actually out playing when I was in Texas, a little bit ago.
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  A few weeks ago, I was out on tour, and I got to sneak away from all the music content and
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  get out on the course one morning.
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  And, yeah, didn't play particularly well most of the day, but, still had, you know, three
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  nice shots in a row that stuck a birdie.
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  And it was like, alright.
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  This was a this was a successful round.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, and I think that's kind of the thing for a lot of golf players, especially early in
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  the round.
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  Like, it is hard to get going the first couple holes, and I think that's where a lot of people
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  get super frustrated.
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  They get so psyched up for their round, and they're, like, double bogey double bogey
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  through, you know, the first couple holes.
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  And it's like, relax.
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  It gets better.
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  Like, for me, I I always joke.
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  I'm like, well, you know, it takes me nine holes to warm up.
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  So
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  Pods, do you get out on the range before you, start your start your rounds, or you just jump
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  in the cart and go?
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  I'm a jump in the cart and go kinda person.
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  Like, I'll do, I've actually got it.
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  I'll pan my camera to it real quick.
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  I've got you see that little yellow ball sticking up right there?
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  Yeah.
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  That's a swing stick right there.
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  So it's a weighted swing stick that you can buy.
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  I got mine off Amazon, like, $40.
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  And it's weighted so you can get a few rotations and swings in there, and it's
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  supposed to loosen you up like you went to the range.
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  Because I'm a I'm a I don't know about you, but I'm a superstitious golfer.
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  I don't believe
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  you're ready.
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  Those good shots on the range.
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  Exactly.
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  Because I'll see a beautiful range shot, and I'll be like, shank one right into that pond
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  because I hit it here, aren't I?
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  So it's kind of the you know, I it's a superstition that I have, and I can't I can't
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  help it.
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  I'm like, I no.
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  And you know what?
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  It's kinda cool to me because one of my I wouldn't say my idol, but someone I look up to,
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  Fat Perez, he's the same way.
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  He's like, I maybe hit a couple balls on the range and then we go.
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  Mean, like
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  can still hit the ball and, let's get out there.
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  Right.
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  Let me put a club face on ball a couple times and go, but I don't really feel the need to go
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  to the range most of the time because I feel like, you know what?
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  I'm not a pro yet.
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  I am striving to become a pro, though.
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  But you have to you have to level with yourself.
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  Like, golf is a game that will humble you very quickly.
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  And if you have superstitions, that's okay.
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  It's encouraged in this game.
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  Stick to them.
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  You'll be crazy, but no one on the golf course will think you're crazy.
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  So, like No.
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  Because we understand.
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  Right?
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  That's kind of the brotherhood and sisterhood of golf is understanding the humbling nature of
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  the game, and even the the best in the world have a bad day.
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  You know, a guy that I think we all look up to in this golf space, John Daly, He was out here
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  playing the Sanford International, in Sioux Falls, South Dakota last year, an event I was
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  very grateful that we got to go and cover and to be at.
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  You know?
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  But I think he had one hole where he was, like, plus 18.
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  I saw that.
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  No.
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  And You know?
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  If we're gonna talk about that, I I feel bad bringing this up, but it is that time of year,
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  so I feel that it's necessary.
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  Who knows more about the best in the world and having it all right there and losing it than
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  Jordan Spieff at the masters?
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  That was rough.
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  Yeah.
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  Well and this game can, it but it teaches you a lot.
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  And I would love to, you know, if ever given the chance to talk to Jordan and to ask him
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  about the comeback after that.
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  Right?
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  Because in life, we all have times where it looks like we're on top of the world and then
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  it all falls apart.
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  And it's how you come back from that that shows you the man that you are.
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  And I I I would love to talk about that mental space because I think that's the most important
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  part of of the game is that mental space.
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  And how do you pull yourself out of it in the moment to get back on track or when something,
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  you know, as traumatic as, you know, doing it on the biggest of stages happens, how do you
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  recover from that in a career?
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  And you go to the next week and, you know, these guys are playing tournaments every single
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  weekend, some of them.
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  Right?
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  How do you turn it around in a seventy two hour span from Sunday to Wednesday or Thursday to
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  say, alright.
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  Well, we got another chance to go out and win a tournament.
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  Yeah.
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  That's especially when it's, like, a major and you have that kind of implosion, you really get
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  to see what someone's made of and, like, what's inside of them, like, the grit.
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  You know?
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  Because I don't know if you, have watched this yet.
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  I think it's on Netflix.
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  They have a golf docuseries on there.
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  I'm trying to think of the name.
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  But one of the episodes was actually Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas.
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  And it talked about both of their rises from, you know, amateur golf to juniors all the way
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  up to world number one in the masters and how Spieth had to watch JT go on that, like, one
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  hundred and fifty six week run of being number one after he was number one.
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  So it's if you wanna know what's inside Jordan Spieth, I highly recommend going on Netflix and
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  watching that docuseries.
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  It's incredible.
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  I love it.
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  And that was a big reason behind why I wanted to develop golf content, on our network was not
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  just for that because I'm an interviewer.
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  Right?
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  I kinda mentioned it off camera that, you know, my superpower is is showing up and having
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  conversations.
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  Right?
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  It's not necessarily being out on the course or in the field and doing the thing, but it's in
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  talking about it.
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  And not that we can't talk about it while we're out there doing it and and bringing that out
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  there, but our platform is very much more about the conversations, around the game.
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  And I think that golf lends itself more than maybe any other sport to, insights into life.
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  Right?
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  And not that you can't take lessons in life away from football or basketball or baseball as
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  well, but because of the personal nature of the game of golf and that there is no one, you
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  know, it's not a team sport.
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  Right?
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  It is an individual effort really against yourself.
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  And I think that, because of that, I was really intrigued with bringing our talents and and
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  what we do at our network into this golf space.
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  Absolutely.
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  Interviewing in and of itself is an art form because, let's be real, there are good
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  interviewers and there are bad interviewers.
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  We've all seen a bad interview.
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  I mean, if you've watched, you know, Inside Hollywood or e news, you've seen a bad one.
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  And if you've watched sixty minutes and, you know, any form, I believe, of, this is gonna
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  sound crazy for interviews, but Bob does sports videos.
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  Bobby is a great interviewer, and he doesn't even sound like he's giving an interview.
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  That's how good he is.
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  Well, and I think that's the that's the superpower to it.
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  Right?
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  And my interview style is definitely loose and casual.
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  I I'm not here to grill you on questions, but I am interested in getting to know you as a human
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  being beyond whatever you've done in sports.
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  A case in point at the Sanford International, I had the pleasure, the honor of taking part in
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  their presser with Chris Carter, Ronde Barber, Sir Nick Faldo.
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  Right?
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  And I'm sitting there talking to some of the best that have ever done it in their respective
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  sports, and I'm one of, like, six reporters in the room, right, asking questions.
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  I got a half hour of these legends' time and funny that the real.
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  My wife's favorite moment from that and probably the biggest highlight of that is I had
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  I didn't come in with any planned questions.
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  I never do that.
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  I'm just kinda rolling with the conversation.
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  And, obviously, these guys have all won masters and US opens, and I had asked of all of, you
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  know, of the golfers and Sir Nick Faldo, you know, what is it like to you know, how does it
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  compare from, you know, winning the the you know, a Super Bowl to, you know, winning a US
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  Open or a Masters or one of the other major championships?
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  And he grabbed the microphone, and he's like, the other, because I had referred to the open
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  as one of the others because I had not chosen my words wisely enough.
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  And the whole room had a good chuckle at my expense.
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  I was laughing as well.
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  The man's a knight.
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  Who am I to, you know, befell him?
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  I didn't mean it to degrade the open by any means, but it was a great moment.
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  My wife is, you know, elbowing me in the side as she's next to me filming and, like, they're
• 23:29
  making fun of you is, like, look.
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  What a great moment for all of us involved to get a good laugh and to let the hair down a
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  little bit and to be a little informal.
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  And it's okay.
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  Right?
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  We're we're all human.
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  We make mistakes.
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  I will admit my mistakes more than anyone.
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  But, I mean, it's something that I'll never forget, and thank goodness I got it all on
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  tape.
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  Just in case I ever do, I can go back to that moment and be humbled again.
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  Yeah.
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  A lot of people don't give Sir Nick Faldo credit, but his dry wit is incredible.
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  Oh, he's British.
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  Right?
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  Like, come on.
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  Oh, I'd love to see him and Rory just have, like, a like, someone just follow them around
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  for 18 holes.
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  That'd be that'd be gold.
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  I'm gonna see if I can, arrange that.
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  Right?
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  That that to me to me, that's what building this platform is.
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  And and we're, you know, starting to build a show around what I call, you know, executive
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  level content, getting guys that are founders of companies and CEOs out on the course where
• 24:35
  we can have them in a little different setting.
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  Right?
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  Instead of interviewing you in your office or or something like, let's get out on the course
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  and let's talk life and let's let the game kind of expose some things that maybe you would be
• 24:48
  able to hide when you're in the boardroom doing an interview rather than out on the course.
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  How do you recover from a setback, and how do you recover from ending up in the sand trap
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  three shots in a row?
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  You know?
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  And that's, you know, what what have you learned from the game of golf that you now
• 25:09
  apply to your business?
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  And that's a big facet of, you know, the next nine months and maybe, you know, several
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  decades of our career is bringing ourselves out there in golfing and, learning about ourselves
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  through the game of golf.
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  And I think that's the beauty of the sport.
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  Well, I will say this for any business CEOs out there or small business owners that are
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  starting up their own thing.
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  If you get into the sand trap three times in a row, get yourself a 64 degree wedge because you
• 25:39
  will get right out.
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  So find yourself a 64 degree kind of player in your company to get you out of any sticky
• 25:45
  situation.
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  You got it.
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  Well, Pods, before I let you get out of here, definitely want you to, you know, tell us all
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  about the the channels and what you're what you got going on, where people can find you, and,
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  you know, how often you're out there posting.
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  Okay.
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  Real quick before that, I gotta ask you one question since you asked me so many.
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  Who is your favorite golfer?
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  Can be present, can be dead, can be past.
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  Oh, favorite golfer.
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  Wow.
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  I guess I really hadn't put any thought into that before.
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  For me, I think someone who marches to the beat of their own drum, and and we had brought them
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  up earlier and seeing now in his older age how supportive he is of not just guys that are on
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  tour, but are in the creation stage, and it's gotta be John Daly.
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  Yeah.
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  Mean, there there could not be to me a better ambassador for the sport.
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  Now everybody in golf may not like that because he's a little rough around the edges, but to
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  me, that's someone that I think really embodies what golf can be.
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  It doesn't have to be stuffy.
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  It doesn't have to be uptight.
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  It can be loose.
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  Right.
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  It can be barefoot.
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  It can be a lot of fun.
• 27:09
  Rip it and rip it, baby.
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  And he's made a career out of it.
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  Right?
• 27:13
  And and had a very successful touring career, and I think his celebrity continues to grow now
• 27:20
  because of his investment into the creator space and going out and being featured in
• 27:27
  movies now with happy Gilmore too.
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  And I I just think it's incredible how he's been able to, you know and for years, kinda
• 27:34
  being like the bad boy of golf.
• 27:37
  Right?
• 27:37
  The the the guy who, you know, walks up and open the dart and goes out and crushes it, you
• 27:44
  know, 350 plus yards.
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  So to me, I think that's my favorite, not necessarily for what he's done on the course,
• 27:53
  which obviously he has his accomplishments there, but for what he's doing for the game and
• 27:58
  growing the game.
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  And I think that in time, he will be recognized more for that than possibly anything that he
• 28:06
  ever did on the course.
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  I absolutely agree.
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  So for me, I'll make it quick.
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  My favorite golfer, I have two.
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  One post humus and one that's present right now.
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  My favorite current golfer is Rory McElroy and Bryson DeChambeau.
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  Those are my two.
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  I can't they're one a and one b to me.
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  They both hit bombs and they're both hilarious.
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  And what Bryson does for the game of golf and content creation is great.
• 28:31
  What Rory does as a PGA ambassador is amazing.
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  But my favorite golfer who I try to model my game after, unfortunately, I wish I could've
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  got to meet him, but he lived such a long time ago, Ben Hogan.
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  Just mister fundamental.
• 28:46
  Ben Hogan.
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  As for
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  would probably tell you then, spend some time on the range, pods, working on the
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  fundamentals.
• 28:58
  Yeah.
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  I know.
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  He probably would.
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  But if you wanna see me do things on the range or on the course, you can follow me at Pods
• 29:06
  Plays Golf on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and Tik Tok as well as on threads.
• 29:11
  And I also have a Facebook page, so if you ever wanna come check it out and see how a high
• 29:17
  handicapper plays, getting on his journey to a low handicap and professional, come see me.
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  I love it, Pods.
• 29:25
  Thank you so much for joining me today.
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  A great conversation.
• 29:29
  I can't wait till we get a chance, to go play around together, whether it's in California or
• 29:35
  I drag you up here into the Dakotas during the summertime.
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  I think it would be a lot of fun to get out there and to cocreate some content and to just
• 29:45
  hang out.
• 29:46
  And one more shout out to company that we're both ambassadors for, Shankit Golf, great a
• 29:52
  company and got some really fun stuff for us that are, you know, not looking we're looking
• 29:58
  to make a statement on the course, but not with our game.
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  And, of course, I have to thank our sponsors here at the scene.
• 30:05
  Project Sports Network, Skunk Golf Company, look good even if your game stinks.
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  It's all about having fun and being part of this beautiful community we call golf.
• 30:16
  Alex, thank you so much for spending some time with me, man, and thanks for being part of the
• 30:20
  scene.
• 30:20
  Hey.
• 30:21
  Thanks for having me.
• 30:25
  Hey, guys.
• 30:26
  I just wanted to pop in and tell you about a great new company that we just started working
• 30:30
  with.
• 30:30
  Skunk Golf Company out of North Dakota sent us some awesome gear.
• 30:35
  Man, they got some great stuff, y'all.
• 30:37
  They got some awesome hats.
• 30:39
  They sent us some great polo and collared shirts, some T shirts, skorts for the ladies
• 30:44
  too, and some sweet visors.
• 30:46
  Go check them out.
• 30:47
  Skunked Golf online.