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Killers Amongst Us: Mom of 3, Michelle Parker, vanishes after ‘The People’s Court’ appearance. (episode 2) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Hi guys, Nancy Grace here, welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
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Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Media and Crime Online. A beautiful brunette,
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Speaker 1: thirty three year old mom seemingly vanishes into thin air.
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Speaker 1: We know that just doesn't happen. Of course, they're the claims.
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Speaker 1: Oh she went away with a new and very secret lover.
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Speaker 1: Oh she took time to herself to quote clear her head.
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Speaker 1: B s. This woman, Michelle Parker, had never done any
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Speaker 1: such thing in her life. In fact, this woman is
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Speaker 1: so together, holding down multiple jobs, even going back to
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Speaker 1: school and taking care of her children like wonder woman.
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Speaker 1: This woman is not going to disappear with some unknown
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Speaker 1: unidentified as of yet spotted by anyone lover. She's not
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Speaker 1: shocked up in some motel. She didn't take a quote
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Speaker 1: break from her family, her children, delight of her life.
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Speaker 1: What happened to Michelle Parker? I'm Nancy Grace. This is
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Speaker 1: Killers amongst Us. Thank you for being with us. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at WSH two. I've been
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Speaker 1: doing pretty good, you know, but when I saw that,
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Speaker 1: it makes me cry. Yvonne Stewart spoke with us at
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Speaker 1: her Ravito salon about the two and a half minute
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Speaker 1: video Orlando Police just released today of her daughter Michelle
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Speaker 1: Parker look down towards a drive through window. Police say
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Speaker 1: this is Michelle Parker going through a Kentucky Fried Chicken
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Speaker 1: restaurant in fern Park on November seventeenth at twelve to
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Speaker 1: twenty two pm. The video is three hours prior to
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Speaker 1: her taking her kids. She's in the vehicle alone, no
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Speaker 1: one's in there, so this is even proud of her
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Speaker 1: picking up the kids this same evening, her parents reported
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker missing. Parker's mother hopes the video problems more
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Speaker 1: leads to her daughter's whereabouts. It may. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: never know what tips could come in when people see
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Speaker 1: that today. You just always have to have hope that
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Speaker 1: somebody knows something. I mean, somebody will remember her and
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Speaker 1: call I hope they do. Last seeing driving through a KFC.
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Speaker 1: You know what, how many times have cases been cracked
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Speaker 1: by drive through windows. I'm just thinking right now of
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Speaker 1: the case of Drew Peterson caught at a drive through
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Speaker 1: the night his fourth wife Stacy goes missing. It goes
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Speaker 1: on and on and on. What significance of what significance
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Speaker 1: is this drive through video at a KFC. She's by herself,
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Speaker 1: she's in her vehicle, no problems, nothing's wrong. So how
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Speaker 1: does she suddenly disappear? With me and all Star Hal
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, director of the Cold Case Research Institute, crime
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Speaker 1: scene expert, doctor Jen Mann, therapist, host of The Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jen Show on series XM, author of The Relationship Fix.
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Speaker 1: John w Deal, personal injury lawyer on the team Michelle
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Speaker 1: Parker and highly involved in the case. But first, let's
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Speaker 1: go to Bianca Prieto, freelance journalist, former Orlando Sentinel criminal
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Speaker 1: justice reporter. Before you comment, I want to nail down
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Speaker 1: the timeline. Maybe this is going to help. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our friend Matt Gutman at ABC. Parker was
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Speaker 1: last scene around two pm Thursday, dropping her kids off.
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Speaker 1: At about four pm, her brother received a short text
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Speaker 1: from her, but she never showed up for her six
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Speaker 1: pm bartending shift. Her iPhone last pin at a cell
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Speaker 1: phone tower at eight pm, then total silence. At this point,
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Speaker 1: her eleven year old calls his grandmother, Yvonne Stewart, to
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Speaker 1: ask where's mom and her son? All the said is
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Speaker 1: mamat the salon or like no, honey, she wants to
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Speaker 1: drop off the babies. She should be home, she should
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Speaker 1: be taken an up. Well, i've seen her since since
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Speaker 1: I got home from school. The flag was raised by
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Speaker 1: the eleven year old boy who called grandma. So Bianca Prieto,
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Speaker 1: formerly with Orlando Sentinel, we now know that the timeline
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Speaker 1: is not clear because we don't even know that she's
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Speaker 1: missing until her eleven year old son calls grandma. What happened?
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Speaker 1: He calls his grandma says, hey, have you seen MoMA.
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard from her. I don't know where she's at.
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Speaker 1: Typically they would talk every day after school, and he
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Speaker 1: just hadn't heard from her. Grandma notices that's abnormal, and
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Speaker 1: she raises a plaguancas, hey, where is my daughter? We
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Speaker 1: haven't seen seen her, we haven't heard from her. What's
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Speaker 1: going on? You know what that's called? That is called
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Speaker 1: routine evidence. Cheryl McCollum, I don't mean routine evidence in
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Speaker 1: the since that it's um sp your routine evidence that
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Speaker 1: comes into court. I mean evidence of someone's routine. I
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Speaker 1: remember every single day we were latchkey kids. When we
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Speaker 1: would get home, I would call my mom at work
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Speaker 1: and tell her we were all home, and she would
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Speaker 1: tell me what time she was going to get home
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Speaker 1: that night for dinner from work. You know, that routine
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Speaker 1: lasted through my whole life. My mom would call me,
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Speaker 1: even when I was a prosecutor, at six o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning when she got to work to make sure
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Speaker 1: I was up. I was okay, I was on my
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Speaker 1: way to work. And when I would be coming home
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Speaker 1: from work late at night, I would call my mom
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Speaker 1: and dad. That type of routine cannot be discounted. And
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Speaker 1: here even the eleven year old little boy, he hasn't
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Speaker 1: ever heard of routine evidence, but he knows something's wrong. Nancy.
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Speaker 1: These patterns are critical because, as you said, even the
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Speaker 1: eleven year old son knows something is not right. Mama
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Speaker 1: would be here when I got home from school. So
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Speaker 1: these routine evidence, these patterns are extraordinarily important to law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: As soon as I see a break in a pattern
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Speaker 1: when I'm work in a case, I stay right there
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Speaker 1: until I can answer that question straight out to John W. Deal.
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Speaker 1: You can find him at Johnwdal dot com, PI lawyer
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Speaker 1: on the Parker case, John jump In. As far as patterns,
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Speaker 1: this was a family that was always in touch. You know,
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Speaker 1: this was in the type of a person to just
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Speaker 1: disappear for days at a time or hours at a time.
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Speaker 1: They were constantly in contact the extended family, the brother,
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Speaker 1: the sister, grandmother, von Stewart. So this was out of
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Speaker 1: the ordinary, even just in the way they communicated with
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Speaker 1: each other, to have this blank time period which raised
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Speaker 1: everybody's suspicions and red flags right away. And doctor gen
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Speaker 1: Man joining us a therapist, host of the Doctor Jen series,
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Speaker 1: sex sim author of a new book, The Relationship Fixed.
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Speaker 1: Doctor gen question, I don't like discounting that feeling that
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Speaker 1: witnesses and victims get around the time of a crime.
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Speaker 1: When I received a call from my fiance's sister, I
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Speaker 1: knew immediately. I just knew that Keith was dead. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how I knew, but I knew. This little
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Speaker 1: eleven year old boy he knows something's wrong. What is that?
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Speaker 1: I mean? Six senses are often discounted in our world
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Speaker 1: of black and white and science. But what do you
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Speaker 1: make of it? Well, it's a combination of things. And
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Speaker 1: you know, Gavin Debecker, who's a security expert, talks a
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Speaker 1: lot about the gift of fear and how we kind
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Speaker 1: of instinctually taken information on an unconscious level. You walk
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Speaker 1: into a room and something is at a place. You
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Speaker 1: may not consciously go, oh, the cup was moved, but
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Speaker 1: your unconscious sends you a warning signal that says something
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Speaker 1: is wrong here. And a lot of the time that's
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Speaker 1: how we get our gut instincts. This is a kid
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Speaker 1: who knew his mom well, she was raising him. She
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Speaker 1: was a very active, involved, hands on mom, super responsible.
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Speaker 1: When she doesn't show up, he's going to have that
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Speaker 1: instinct something is wrong. Now, there's also what you're talking
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Speaker 1: about in the case of your fiance, that sometimes we
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Speaker 1: just have this link to someone that is indescribable that
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Speaker 1: gives us kind of a sense that it's kind of
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Speaker 1: a sixth sense, that it's you can't really explain with science,
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Speaker 1: you can't really explain with you know things that we
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Speaker 1: know of, but it just exists. And we've all had
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Speaker 1: that experience or know someone who has, and it's important
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Speaker 1: to oh us to listen to that guy. And you're
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Speaker 1: so right. The eleven year old son knows something's wrong
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Speaker 1: and calls Grandmam and say, hey, where's Mom. Then we
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Speaker 1: find out she doesn't show up for her shift at
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Speaker 1: one of her mini jobs. As a bartender at six pm.
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Speaker 1: Straight back out to Bianca Prieto, freelance journalist formerly with
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Speaker 1: The Orlando Sentinel on the criminal justice bait. Let's nail
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Speaker 1: down the timeline as we know it. There's big holes
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Speaker 1: in it, but what do we know at this juncture.
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Speaker 1: So we know that Michelle was last seen her ound
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Speaker 1: noon going through the drive through. She allegedly sends a
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Speaker 1: text or a text is sent from her phone to
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Speaker 1: her brother, and her son doesn't hear from her after school,
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Speaker 1: which is totally unusual. She's supposed to show up at
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Speaker 1: a really popular bar where she's a bartender at six o'clock,
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Speaker 1: and she doesn't show up. No one's heard from her,
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Speaker 1: and so at about eight pm, I guess that's the
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Speaker 1: last time her phone was pinging. That means it was on,
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Speaker 1: but nobody's heard from her since that text went out
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Speaker 1: at four o'clock. So we've got her at twelve to
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Speaker 1: twenty two at a KFC drive through. Everything's fine then,
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Speaker 1: by let's just say lexustrapolate three to thirty three hours
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Speaker 1: later when her eleven year old gets off school. Mommy
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Speaker 1: is gone. In the space of three hours, this gorgeous
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Speaker 1: young brunette mom seemingly just disappears. What do you make
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Speaker 1: of the time, Aline sheer, I'm gonna call him the
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Speaker 1: Townhime is so critical because there's a short period of
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Speaker 1: time that she would have actually gone missing. So what
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Speaker 1: we know is she goes through the drive through at KFC,
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Speaker 1: but she doesn't show up for work. So that's a
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Speaker 1: short window where something happened on her. Guys, immediately the
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Speaker 1: alarm is sounded, take a listen to our friends. At
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Speaker 1: Fox thirty five, hundreds of volunteer spent the day on foot,
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Speaker 1: handing out flyers, family and clothes. Friends walking for miles,
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Speaker 1: checking every corner for Michelle, every dumpster. You're like, oh, Michelle,
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Speaker 1: I hope you're not in here. Baby, I hope you're
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Speaker 1: not in here. And you get up and you crawl
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Speaker 1: on top of stuff and you look and you're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: this one's leminadd you're not here. Brother's bread and Dustin
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Speaker 1: staying strong for their sister. So I used to every
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Speaker 1: day you don't want to wake up and figure it'll
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Speaker 1: be your sister. You'll be going to look for it.
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Speaker 1: Just hurts using maps and driving these ATVs around. They've
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Speaker 1: been turning everything they find over to investigators. We found
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Speaker 1: a lot of possible things today and nothing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's all got to get tested and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: So we can't or we can't say what's what. I'm
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Speaker 1: just imagining her brothers, Brett and Dustin, her mother out
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Speaker 1: there literally beating the bushes trying to find missing mom.
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker an absolute stunning beauty, then a break in
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Speaker 1: the case. Take a listening to Bob Keeling Awesh news too.
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Speaker 1: Michelle Parker, the mother of three children, disappeared. This is
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Speaker 1: newly released video of her hummer pulling up to a
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Speaker 1: red light at Conroy and Vineland Road that very night.
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Speaker 1: So this is what we know. You're hearing the latest
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Speaker 1: regarding her commer. Remember have you ever seen those cars?
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Speaker 1: It looked like that looked like they've been shrink wrapped
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Speaker 1: with advertising. Hers was with her business Glow Glow, and
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Speaker 1: the video shows her car pulling up to a red
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Speaker 1: light and then moving on. Now, they call at nighttime,
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Speaker 1: but this is four hours after her text that day
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Speaker 1: around two o'clock, so it's about six o'clock. The car
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Speaker 1: is in what area, straight out to Bianca Prieto. Where
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Speaker 1: was the red light. The red light is over near
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Speaker 1: the Mall of Millennium, which is an upscale mall, and
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Speaker 1: it's about twenty minutes from where she had dropped off
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Speaker 1: her kids. Oh lord, Bianca Prieto, you just put chills
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Speaker 1: down my spine. I just finished a new book. It's
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Speaker 1: on Amazon, Don't be a victim, And I devote a
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Speaker 1: lot of time to safety while shopping and parking garage
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Speaker 1: in parking lots and parking decks near malls, dangers of malls.
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Speaker 1: You being at the mall with your children at the mall,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, that's near the Mall of the Millennium. That's
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Speaker 1: a huge mall that raises all sorts of specters about
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Speaker 1: what may have happened to her. You're talking about thousands
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Speaker 1: of people that come and go from that area every day.
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Speaker 1: So again, if somebody were following her, if somebody had
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Speaker 1: been stalking her from her job, if there was some
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Speaker 1: type of road rage incidents, You've got a lot of
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Speaker 1: people in that area, man, you're not kidding, and not
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Speaker 1: just in that area, living there, but in that area
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Speaker 1: just to go to the mall, Okay, with nothing better
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Speaker 1: to do all day long than mall crawl hanging out
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Speaker 1: at the mall. Who saw her? And I want to
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Speaker 1: talk about her vehicle. Back to Bianca Prieto, formerly Orlando
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Speaker 1: Sentinel criminal justice reporter, tell me about why her hummer
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Speaker 1: is so distinctive. So she was driving this big hummer
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Speaker 1: and it had details on the back of it that
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Speaker 1: advertised her airbrush tanning business she worked in. She had
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Speaker 1: many jobs and one of those was to go to
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Speaker 1: people's homes and give them airbrush tens. Well, everybody was
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Speaker 1: working looking for this big black suv with the details
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Speaker 1: on it. You know, Bianca Prieto, You're right, you can't
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Speaker 1: miss it. The whole back window of her hummer, it's
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Speaker 1: a blackcomer, has a giant advertisement on it glow and
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Speaker 1: then a phone number and I think a website. You
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Speaker 1: really can't miss it. That's very significant. Let me give
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Speaker 1: you an example, Cheryl McCollum, do you recall the recent
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Speaker 1: case of Molly Tibbots. The college girl and she goes
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Speaker 1: home to her boyfriend's home, he's out of town. She
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Speaker 1: decides to go jogging, disappears. This insane search launched for
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Speaker 1: Molly Tibbots, and it was only when residential video camp
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Speaker 1: security cams, cops are gathered and cops notice a vehicle
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Speaker 1: and all they see is the car go back and
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Speaker 1: forth a couple of times. They notice a distinctive marking
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Speaker 1: on the side of the car, like a big scratch.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think it turned out to be. Why
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Speaker 1: was the car going back and forth and back and
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Speaker 1: forth very slowly where Molly was believed to have been
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Speaker 1: running jogging that night. They tracked down that car based
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Speaker 1: on the make, the model, the year, what they the color,
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Speaker 1: and they find the vehicle with the same scratches down
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Speaker 1: the side of the car. I mean in this case,
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Speaker 1: this hummer, first of all, a big black commer is
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Speaker 1: identifiable enough, but she's got a huge sign on the
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Speaker 1: back glow Mobile airbrush tanning and the phone number. You
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Speaker 1: can't miss it, Cheryl, that call would be recognizable as
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Speaker 1: soon as anybody saw the back of that car. It
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Speaker 1: takes up the entire back. Lindow, I want to go
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Speaker 1: to John w Deal at Johnwedel dot com, high profile
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Speaker 1: personal injury lawyer who is on team Michelle Parker. You
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Speaker 1: know this woman did everything she could to push forward.
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Speaker 1: She's a single mom. She's got these children, I think
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Speaker 1: three children, she's holding down multiple jobs. She started her
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Speaker 1: own business of airbrush channing at home. That means and
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Speaker 1: you know you've got her phone number right there on
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Speaker 1: the back of her hummer. That means she's going into
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Speaker 1: homes of people she doesn't know to make a living.
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Speaker 1: How do I know she wasn't meeting somebody at them all,
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Speaker 1: following them home? How do I know somebody didn't pull
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Speaker 1: up beside her at her red light, see that phone
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Speaker 1: number and say, wow, she's beautiful and car What can
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Speaker 1: you tell me about her personality? How she was trying
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Speaker 1: so hard to make it in this world? Right? She was,
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Speaker 1: you know, a very outgoing, bubbly personality, you know, the
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Speaker 1: type person we admire pulling themselves up from their bootstraps
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Speaker 1: and supporting their family. You know, always work and definitely
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Speaker 1: was a visible person. She had a job in a
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Speaker 1: busy bar. She had this thing where she would meet
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Speaker 1: many different people. But when then you look at that,
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Speaker 1: is this the type of person who voluntarily just disappears
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Speaker 1: or decides, hey, I'm going to take a trip. About
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Speaker 1: telling anybody those two things don't add up at all.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't add up. And also to you, Cheryl McCollum.
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Speaker 1: It's like an advertisement. Here I am, look at me,
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Speaker 1: here's my phone number. Now you'd think it would be
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Speaker 1: a great advertisement, but for her it may have signaled
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Speaker 1: her kidnap very easily. Again, if you've got a mobile
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Speaker 1: tan and somebody calls you up and says, hey, meet
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Speaker 1: me at this address, you don't know. Maybe the house
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Speaker 1: has just been broken into or abandoned. It could be
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Speaker 1: a very very scary situation with me. Cheryl McCollum, director
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Speaker 1: of Coldcase Research Institute. You can find her at coldcasecrime
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Speaker 1: dot org. Just the other day, John David and I
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Speaker 1: were in the car and we came up at a
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Speaker 1: red light behind a home pet grooming and between the cat,
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Speaker 1: the dog and the two guineas, you know you have
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Speaker 1: to cut. You have to trim the guineas to nails, Cheryl.
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Speaker 1: A little known fact. Yeah, I have hell and they
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Speaker 1: try to get away desperately. The whole time you're doing it,
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Speaker 1: they shed like crazy. It's it's just an experience you'd
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Speaker 1: never forget. Usually I have to try to hold him
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Speaker 1: and feed him a piece of lettuce while Lucy and
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Speaker 1: John David try to trim their nails. I'm like, oh
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Speaker 1: my stars, I can't do this again. So we pull
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Speaker 1: up behind this vehicle that says we come to your home,
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Speaker 1: degree and pets. We called and called and called. Guess what,
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Speaker 1: They're booked up for the next six months, So we
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Speaker 1: had to do it. Long story short, we were just
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Speaker 1: sitting in traffic and happen to see this number and
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Speaker 1: call them and we're ready to, you know, let the people,
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Speaker 1: let the woman enter our home. But that's the same
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Speaker 1: scenario as Michelle Parker, who saw that car, who saw
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Speaker 1: that number, very very distinctive and it leads to more questions.
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Speaker 1: Listen to Lead Detective Mike Mureshi. What we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: releasing is red light video of Michelle Parker's hummer on
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Speaker 1: the evening that she disappeared, and at eight fifty five
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Speaker 1: that night at the intersection of Violent and Conroy, which
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Speaker 1: is approximately three quarters of a mile from where the
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Speaker 1: hummer was ultimately discovered the next day. In the video,
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Speaker 1: you'll see that there is the car is not following anybody,
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Speaker 1: No one is following the car, and the globe stickers
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Speaker 1: that made it so prominent are no longer on the
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Speaker 1: vehicle at that time. At eight fifty five pm, and
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Speaker 1: we are we are presuming that it was parked. It
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Speaker 1: goes in the direction of Walden Circle where it was
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Speaker 1: was found, and we're presuming it was parked therely shortly thereafter.
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Speaker 1: So the car is found. Bianca Prieto, formerly with Orlando
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Speaker 1: Sentinel Crime and Justice, tell me about where and when
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Speaker 1: the car is found. The hummer, the hummer that everybody
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Speaker 1: was looking for. It was found the next day and
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Speaker 1: the stickers that were very prominent had been removed. It
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Speaker 1: was actually located in an apartment complex near the Mall
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Speaker 1: at Millennia, which is an upscale mall. When you say
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Speaker 1: near the mall at Millennia and you say upscale, I
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Speaker 1: also write about that in my book Don't Be a Victim,
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Speaker 1: because people get lulled and you know, you're walking by
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Speaker 1: Sacks Fifth Avenue and Nordstrom and Chanel and Gucci, all
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Speaker 1: these really expensive design or stores and fancy restaurants. You're
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Speaker 1: kind of lulled into a false sense of community, a
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Speaker 1: false sense of security at these high price malls, luxury malls.
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Speaker 1: That is so not true. There is no sense of
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Speaker 1: security when people are traveling miles and miles to get
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Speaker 1: to the mall people that you don't know. But the
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Speaker 1: banner here is the car is found hidden away, tucked
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Speaker 1: away amongst all the other cars in an apartment complex
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Speaker 1: across from this big mall. And significantly John wdal Pi Lawyer,
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Speaker 1: all of the advertisements glow mobile, airbrush, channing in the
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Speaker 1: phone number, it's all been removed right, correct, correct, And
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Speaker 1: that was another thing. You know, there was some thought of, well,
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Speaker 1: was this just somebody carjacker or a rapt Not too often,
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Speaker 1: especially with a Hummer, that it's just going to be
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Speaker 1: driven a distance and then the car somehow or the
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Speaker 1: stickers are removed. That doesn't make a lot of sense
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Speaker 1: as far as that, and that also points especially with
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Speaker 1: the stickers being taken off, starts to looking a lot
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Speaker 1: more like thou play. Oh, definitely and think through it,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum. Not random well, because you know, a random
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Speaker 1: attack her would just grab her, rob her or rape
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Speaker 1: her and shoot her in the parking lot and take off.
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Speaker 1: Who's going to take time to think? Wow, they're gonna
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Speaker 1: find this carphile he glos decals on the back. Not
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Speaker 1: only do they take extra time removing it, but they
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Speaker 1: know there's some connection to that they know she didn't
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Speaker 1: borrow a car, They know she didn't stop working that
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Speaker 1: business a year ago. They know that phone number is
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Speaker 1: still significant. You know another thing, Let me go out
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Speaker 1: to our therapist, our specialist, doctor jen Mann. It tells
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Speaker 1: me something about who took her. It's someone that a
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Speaker 1: was not afraid that they were going to be caught
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Speaker 1: scraped or spotted on surveillance videos scraping that decal off,
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Speaker 1: So it was not scraped off there to get it off,
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Speaker 1: they had to scrape it. I'm sure it's a giant,
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Speaker 1: giant advertisement on the back of her car. So they're
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Speaker 1: here in an apartment complex. Where do you want to
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Speaker 1: hide something? Some won't be found in plane view. It's
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Speaker 1: like leaving a stolen car at the airport. Who's going
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Speaker 1: to be backing it in, you know, Batman style? Who's
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Speaker 1: ever gonna find it there? What does that tell you
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Speaker 1: about whoever took her? It makes me think that whoever
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Speaker 1: did it, either wherever they were in plain sight, they
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Speaker 1: belonged there, and that they were someone who people knew,
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Speaker 1: so they would say, oh, yeah, of course this person's here,
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Speaker 1: he lived in the neighborhood, or someone who's incredibly narcissistic
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Speaker 1: and thinks I can get away with anything. Meanwhile, the
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Speaker 1: search is ongoing. Take a listen to chopper reporter Dan McCarthy.
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Speaker 1: Wish to see on right now you can see the
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Speaker 1: Orange County Sheriff's Command center in the parking lot here
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Speaker 1: at the community that center just self the curry Ford Road.
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Speaker 1: Pretty impressive sight here. A lot of people, a lot
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Speaker 1: of activity going on. We can unseeing. About twenty minutes
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Speaker 1: ago we actually saw some dogs going through the woods
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Speaker 1: with their trainers. I imagine unfortunately their dogs designed to
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Speaker 1: sniff out a dead body. They're walking through the woods
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Speaker 1: right now. We've also heard they have ATVs in the area.
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Speaker 1: They're probably fifty to one hundred people in this here,
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Speaker 1: searching the woods, searching the canal, searching the water. We
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Speaker 1: have not seen any divers going to the water again.
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Speaker 1: Back tou Cheryl McCollum, Director of the Coldcase Research Institute
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Speaker 1: at Coldcasecrime dot org. Cheryl McCollum. While this search is
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Speaker 1: going on by land by air, tell me about what's
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Speaker 1: being done to process the hummer. They're gonna look for
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Speaker 1: hair fingerprints that maybe belong to the victims that are
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Speaker 1: out of place. Things on the passenger side. They're gonna
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Speaker 1: swab that steering wheel for DNA. They're gonna look for
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Speaker 1: fingerprints on the window, maybe the review Mira, the outside
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Speaker 1: of the door. They're gonna look for blood. Unfortunately, they're
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Speaker 1: gonna look for anything that might have been brought into
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Speaker 1: that vehicle and left, like a weapon or some type
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Speaker 1: of burglary tool. They're gonna look obviously for whatever scrapes
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Speaker 1: that off the back. Did he leave anything in that
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Speaker 1: car that could tell who he is? Now we know
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Speaker 1: the car is being processed as a search goes on
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Speaker 1: for missing mom Michelle Parker. But wait a minute. A
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Speaker 1: woman like Michelle Parker, who is single mom, taking care
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Speaker 1: of her children, juggling two jobs, juggling school as well,
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Speaker 1: she's got to have a cell phone. I haven't heard
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Speaker 1: a word about that. Where is the cell phone? Here's
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Speaker 1: a clue. Take a listen to Lee Detective Mike Mureshi.
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Speaker 1: This is an important part of a timeline that we've had.
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Speaker 1: We know it at three twenty that day, November seventeenth
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Speaker 1: of twenty eleven, that Michelle dropped off the twins on
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Speaker 1: Golden Rod Road at almost four thirty, she sent a
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Speaker 1: text to her brother Dustin's, indicating that she was at
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Speaker 1: Waterford and at that time she utilized a cell tower
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Speaker 1: near the summer on at Hoffner. And now we know
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Speaker 1: that her hummer was at the intersection of Violent and
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Speaker 1: Conroy at nine o'clock and was was parked there fairly
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Speaker 1: short shortly thereafter, So at five o'clock her phone is
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Speaker 1: still turned on, still powered up, and used at a
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Speaker 1: particular cell tower. But where's the phone and more importantly,
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Speaker 1: where is Michelle Nancy Grace Killers amongst us signing off
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Speaker 1: goodbye friend.